offtopic

[solid needle]

Priest is too hot and miss

It’ll be good one tier and dogshit the next

[dusk loom]

Is warlock losing any defensive or survivability talents?

[solid needle]

Yes, a lot

[dusk loom]

Oh shit really

[solid needle]

Soul Leech is actually a talent now, Increase healing from drain life is a talent

[sturdy field]

poor warlocks

[solid needle]

They gave affliction execute

[dusk loom]

But they can still have soul leech, dark pact, unending resolve, mortal coil at the same time?

Well, forced to spend more talent points is something

Also will affliction be able to pop off if they leaved the thorned affix as is?

[solid needle]

Yeah

[obtuse dawn]

Man by the time TWW releases I feel like lock is gonna be a shadow of it's former alpha/early beta self

[solid needle]

They actually changed a bit yesterday

[obtuse dawn]

Survival looking like a low key tinker class now too

You like bombs? Fuck ya, enjoy.

[dusk loom]

BFA survival is back?

[obtuse dawn]

Its even more bomb intense than it was then haha

Wildfire Bomb now costs 10 Focus.
Explosives Expert now reduces Wildfire Bomb cooldown by 1/2 seconds (was 2/4 seconds).
Wildfire Infusion now makes Kill Command reduce the cooldown of Wildfire Bomb by 1 second (was 2 seconds).
Grenade Juggler now makes Explosive Shot reduce the cooldown of Wildfire Bomb by 2 seconds (was 4 seconds).
Grenade Juggler now causes Wildfire Bomb to have a 25% chance to also fire an Explosive Shot at your target at 100% effectiveness (was 25% chance to reset the cooldown of Explosive Shot).

[dusk loom]

Oh that's nice. I've never been a fan of survival since it became melee but I hope the people who play it have fun

[obtuse dawn]

I'd love to be at the design meeting for SV and figuring out how bombs hit the class fantasy of the spec

Cause they are REALLY doubling down on bombs

[dusk loom]

I'll always be in the camp that survival should have been a ranged spec that relied on throwing bomb, traps, etc while pet distracts enemy and BM should have been melee, fighting side by side and doing combo attacks with your pet

[sturdy field]

aff so much easier to play too. One less dot to keep track of (siphon life again a passive), and only one spender both in st/aoe

And oblivion does so much damage lol

[candid edge]

I don’t like it when locks are happy

Generally speaking

[dusk loom]

Same

[sturdy field]

(they're not, but they're dummies)

[dusk loom]

But I'd rather see affliction be their top spec than the others

(Destro purists are malding)

[solid needle]

Siphon Life was always the bad feeling dot for me

[sturdy field]

Fun part early on in DF you wouldn't seed in aoe, but instead spread SL to get fat raptures on everything, was solid damage with trinkets up, but was quite hard to pull off

its only use was to have one more dot for rapture to do more damage, not cool

[dusk loom]

Isn't their current aoe just to spam seed?

[obtuse dawn]

@solid needle for mage, what race you pick?

Vulpera huh

[solid needle]

I’ll try both Mage and Lock and decide between those

[obtuse dawn]

Mage portals though..

[dusk loom]

Lock summoning stone

[sturdy field]

Right now yeah, in aoe what I'm doing on DF on live is put agonies while mobs are gathering, pick the biggest target and put UA on it, one seed to spread corruption, vile taint, soul rot, dark glare then go to town with seed (the haste you get from soul rot generates so much shards from agony you can spam it for a solid 10+ seconds lol)

[obtuse dawn]

Pssssh, with summoning scrolls in remix, its only a matter of time

[dusk loom]

Been carried through more than a few raids on my lock cause I'm the only one who can summon

Yea

[obtuse dawn]

There's even a blink scroll in TWW

[dusk loom]

That is fantastic. But didn't the excess haste cause an oom issue?

[sturdy field]

in BFA

that hasn't been an issue since then

[solid needle]

More than likely Human, maybe also Troll, Gnome, or Goblin

[sturdy field]

aff locks were running oom in BFA with haste corruption xd

[dusk loom]

That's nuts

[obtuse dawn]

huuuuh, surprised not void elf

I cant do short classes, transmog always looks so derpy

[dusk loom]

Yea gnomes really are an abomination

[obtuse dawn]

if they designed mechagnomes like they did Earthen it woulda been a slam dunk

[solid needle]

Ngl, VE doesn’t excite me

Earthen and Dwarves also kinda cool

[obtuse dawn]

Their passive for mage is pretty rad

[solid needle]

Better than stats?

[obtuse dawn]

You got me.

[solid needle]

Troll is meh to me now, but gnome and human are pog

Though human did just have a racial change

[dusk loom]

Yea they got a shaman ability as a racial

[obtuse dawn]

Gnome looks...

I can't bring myself to look at that lil deformed bastard

[sturdy field]

I like velf

I can be a blood elf without feeling filthy playing a horde race

[obtuse dawn]

They just so sassy looking

[solid needle]

They are just a budget BE

I’d just play BE at that point

[sturdy field]

I pick a race so the character looks cool, give zero fuck about minmaxing that stuff lol

[obtuse dawn]

Ew. Maybe if they blew up Orgrimmar and gave horde Suramar City as a hub

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah same, I gotta stare at the character so might as well enjoy it

[sturdy field]

When I do content that's high enough that racials matter sure, but thats not the case

[obtuse dawn]

Im surprised mythic fyrakk is still going for $500 a pop btw

[sturdy field]

idk about $, but doubt it'll go down think it's still 7-8m

Mount looks cool

[obtuse dawn]

Damn thats crazy

Cant wait till DF Remix comes out and I'll buy it off a vendor

[sturdy field]

Oh looks like it's 5m

I might just buy it, our best during prog was 12% on mythic so we never killed it rip

[obtuse dawn]

lemme see what that comes up to $

[sturdy field]

doesn't matter lol, I'm still loaded from shadowlands legendaries

[obtuse dawn]

$209 basically at the cheap end of gold buying

[sturdy field]

that's.. a lot of money for a mount lol, but I guess TCG ones go for thousands so shrug

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah, I mean if you have the gold from shadowlands, might as well

Its a dope mount

[sturdy field]

I care very little about the mount

but druid flight form though

[obtuse dawn]

Oh yeah sorry thats what I meant

Looks cool

[analog sedge]

Just kill it now when it's not awakened

[sturdy field]

Eh most ppl stopped playing until TWW by now, from guild

[analog sedge]

Do they not know about how you can absolutely overpower Fyrakk now?

[sturdy field]

Yeah, but it's also now summer and not sure how many would care to kill it without the CE

[analog sedge]

[obtuse dawn]

Quazii on TWW tanks: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGosGik-hrI&t=1516s ||

[candid edge]

I made mistake

I bought mount for the flight form

But no longer maining druid?

😵‍💫

[obtuse dawn]

ooooofff

How much did you pay

[candid edge]

7m

[obtuse dawn]

fuuuuuck

[candid edge]

But it was under the assumption that every raid woukd become perma awakened

And it would go to gold cap

which obviously didn’t happen

now I got my new gold sink

I want every t3 cloth set

[obtuse dawn]

Them not allowing the raids each to be perma awakened was sucha idiotic move

Hey, $300 lesson and you may play druid again in the future

its a 1% drop rate after DF so

[candid edge]

Looks dope and I’ll probably revisit druid again let’s be real

And I’ll enjoy the flight form then

[sturdy field]

or not, until they add a glyph or w/e to it so we can have dragonriding for mounts and normal flying for flight form :(

[mystic fern]

you can get it for 3.5 now

[candid edge]

Goddamn

[sturdy field]

Oh really

[mystic fern]

when it's not awekened of course

[sturdy field]

now that's interesting

[candid edge]

Yeah expected tbh

should def snag oxez

I’m assuming in prepatch everyone gets even stronger so

It’ll be dirt cheap

[sturdy field]

Aren't droprates going to 1% in pre-patch

[candid edge]

Shouldn’t be no?

I thought it was next expac

But I never paid attention that closely

[sturdy field]

yeah I'm not 100% sure

[obtuse dawn]

15 million, my lord

[honest mauve]

you're welcome druids

[solid needle]

I want that time back in my life

[obtuse dawn]

twas your favorite expansion

[obtuse dawn]

People gotta be leveling alts right now, getting 1-2 min queues as dps on retail

[sturdy field]

they be leveling their bdk

[solid needle]

BDK best tank

[sturdy field]

Was wondering, "beat tank". My dk is named Deadbeat atm lol.

[obtuse dawn]

shhhiiiit now that DH's been dethroned perceptionally

[sturdy field]

Some people made a build in D4 for druid and called it "Karen Druid", all you do is use your Debilitating Roar and Blood Howl, basically you are just yelling at mobs and they die, lmao.

[candid edge]

BDK has always been best most fun tank

[solid needle]

Based

[obtuse dawn]

I think bdk, brm and warrior are shaping up to be top runners in TWW s1

Quazii seems to think guardian will be sleeper hit too

[solid needle]

I think BDK is looking too good to pass up as my Tank alt

Just need to decide if I wanna play 2 or 3 toons

Or just 1

[obtuse dawn]

I'm paranoid that like warlock for DPS, BDK is the clear choice of tanking

[solid needle]

Yeah, it’s been a bit since it was good so hoping it’s not nerfed too hard

[candid edge]

Reorigination array was dogshit cause of mid season alts being permanently 10 weeks behind. But tying it account wide to warband is chefs kiss. Not making same mistake from lesson they learned years ago

[solid needle]

Damn quazii said button bloat when talking about DK

Big sad

https://youtu.be/AJNtSMPH5No?si=4OU7p2kN0wPo-ZtC

[obtuse dawn]

Careful oxez gonna kill you

"Ideally though, if you're a PUG leader, if you're putting a raid or Mythic raid group, you should want one of every class and then once you have that covered, you should look at who's available and how you want to fill out the rest of your roster based on your people and the content that you're facing."

People pug mythic raids?

I... didn't think that was a thing based on how fucking difficult Amirdrassil was

[solid needle]

Can’t argue with facts

[obtuse dawn]

At the end of the day, we want healers to be responsible for the health and well being of their parties, assuming the Tank is keeping things under control, but not overly stressed in doing so. They should feel powerful in their ability to save and correct the mistakes that their group has made, but also that they're not spinning so many plates at a given time that if they make a single mistake or take a breath for a single second, something is going to collapse.

Ion has no fucking idea what WoW has become for healers

[solid needle]

Ion is a grey and green parsing resto shaman who cares what he says

[thin burrow]

Based

[obtuse dawn]

I’d even take interrupts not being consumed if two people interrupt at the same time QoL change for healers

[solid needle]

I’m honestly surprised something like that isn’t a thing at this point. They push being pug friendly so much, but you won’t have coordination so everyone (or no one) just blows theirs and then you are dry

[obtuse dawn]

It wouldn't be hard to implement either via code, if casting and interrupted by <player>, spell on CD

if already interrupted and or npc is no longer casting, CD reset

Also, gotta love how on sight they are with mages right now

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/80062-arcane-and-frost-mage-tier-set-bonuses-reworked-in-war-within-beta-build-55185/

[solid needle]

Yeah surely there would be a way

[obtuse dawn]

I think mage is going to be my main dps, brm for tank and most likely voidweaver for healer

Even if they nerf fire, arcane and frost still look fun af

[solid needle]

Yeah frost has been the lowest fun for me since like WoD, but still playable enjoyment. The other two just look fun af

[obtuse dawn]

Have you seen it in TWW?

Looks fun

[solid needle]

No I haven’t looked at Frost

The only frost I know is ice bolt to fish for procs, spend procs, repeat

Frost bolt sorry

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O22jrtwSCw

I feel like all 3 mage hero specs were made for M+

[solid needle]

I’m maining mage, I don’t even care which spec but

[obtuse dawn]

lol

same

[solid needle]

Hope it’s Arcane lol

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZEjAszmPew

Looks fun af too

[solid needle]

BDK might be too micromanagy, so might be another DPS or Pally

[obtuse dawn]

Lightsmith is amazingly fun as prot the ONLY issue is in pugs its gonna be a nightmare buffing idiots

Templar doesnt feel very... hero spec

Plus it feels kinda weird Paladins have to spec into Eye of Tyr to get their hero spec? If you don't take it, you're S.O.L. for Templar

I dunno if any other class has that stupidity. Yeah, its a known spell for paladins to have but like, you gotta cast Eye of Tyr to use your hero spec's ability, wait till 5 HP then cast it again which feels really clunky.

Oh and Word of Glory does NO healing anymore in beta, it's terrible now

[solid needle]

Damn

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah, I'd probably look at BDK or BrM

BDK isn't really that much micromanaging tbh

They've helped with bone shield too

[solid needle]

They did but added like 3-4 buttons

And a 12sec window to dump abilities in

[obtuse dawn]

The way Quazii talks about it it looks fun

I KSH'd my BDK S1 of DF and you're a way better player than I am, can't be too hard

[wary pike]

does anyone know what WA or addon it is that puts the tooltip icons above interactable things?

nvm figured out it was just a setting in the base game lol

[tepid lantern]

Huge moth saw earlier

[obtuse dawn]

Hey @solid needle happy first day of summer ❤️

[solid needle]

Fuck off

[obtuse dawn]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[dusk loom]

Aww look at them all

[obtuse dawn]

Looks like there’s plenty of AC

Are they wearing glow belts?!

Dude to the left def looks like he’s wearing one in the middle of the day

[solid needle]

Yeah they have to in PTs

Those are the crippled

[dusk loom]

Oh that sucks

[obtuse dawn]

Man I’m so glad we didn’t have those. I spent 2 months on an Air Force base in the Middle East and we didn’t have to wear them. Can’t tell ya how many officers would stop me and demand I wear one

Only military would make glow belts mando in the middle of the day with cross walks

[solid needle]

How else can people see you

And they make you bullet proof

[obtuse dawn]

haha man I can hear the sarcasm in your voice watching these young kids cross wearing their glow belts expecting someone to stop 2 feet away from them

[dusk loom]

Hey one of the guys I was in with got shot outside Walmart at 1 am and I can almost garauntee he wasn't wearing a glow belt

[solid needle]

Woulda saved him

[dusk loom]

Mmmm ill tell ya the story later

[obtuse dawn]

There are so many things I look back on and laugh about the military

[solid needle]

It’s wild what these trainees let us do to them

[obtuse dawn]

Thankful for my time in but maaaan, being 40 now and looking back how dumb I was/am

[solid needle]

And how stupid they really are

[obtuse dawn]

Its an interesting thing being in your 20s, you think you know everything yet you know absolutely nothing

[dusk loom]

There was another guy who went UA, got high on something and was banging on someone's door with a machete. In Tennessee

[solid needle]

They got fucked up a couple days ago cause they had their rifles out and were doing familiarization, then went to chow and literally no one stayed back to watch

Like a couple of us were here but no trainees

[obtuse dawn]

I'll get invited out by 20-30 year olds and I'm like.. no fucking way do I have anything in common with them anymore

[obtuse dawn]

HAHAHA

Oh maaaan

[dusk loom]

Bro wtf

[obtuse dawn]

Pizza party for them

[solid needle]

Just a whole drill pad full of rifles in formation and walked off

[obtuse dawn]

poor kids.

They lack common sense at that age, I know I did

[solid needle]

Currently have uh, 18 on profile

[dusk loom]

You got sand pits?

Could make some sugar cookies

[solid needle]

Naw can’t do a lot of that anymore

[obtuse dawn]

Blow out some knees to help with their eventual VA claims

[solid needle]

“Punishment has to fit the crime” and all that

[dusk loom]

Ahh yea

I remember when I was a little shit bag

[solid needle]

Can get a little creative but nothing wild. Mostly essays, some exercise or two, nothing big

[dusk loom]

But I never made thr same mistake twice

Actually that's not true. I got blackout drunk more than once on deployment

[obtuse dawn]

essays?!

I...

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-2486632017667011481

[sturdy field]

Damn the person working on bear should write an essay explaining the rationale behind the changes in TWW

[fading pumice]

wat change

[solid needle]

They are allowed to write 250 words a day

[sturdy field]

exactly

[obtuse dawn]

Mage, Warlock, DK, Hunter, Evoker all living their best lives come TWW

Druid and Shaman just sad lil fellas

I feel like Blizzard fucked up by calling them Hero Talents

[sturdy field]

tbf mage is always living their best lives

[obtuse dawn]

right? Mage always comes out clean somehow.

[sturdy field]

I'm sure they're complaining a lot too

[obtuse dawn]

Not much

[sturdy field]

yeah, forums

and still, ok the post might be legit and have good arguments, but

[obtuse dawn]

Shaman forum is sad to look at

Druid is even more uplifting based on the titles

[drifting cedar]

does anyone know are cross realm guilds confirmed for WW?

[solid needle]

Months ago

[tepid lantern]

This is why the Army amazes me. Imagine having to calculate how many boxes of crayons each boot needs to eat per day? These are Hero's

They aren't to the comfortable-racism stage yet

That's when they unlock the true meaning of friendship

[flat shuttle]

Just caught up on the army talk. You really had a whole 40 idiots leave their rifles in formation? Not one thought to grab a battle buddy and stay behind? Clownfiesta boots

[tepid lantern]

Bless their hearts

Time to fill up buckets of water, carry them 50 feet & dump them

Til their arms don't work

[flat shuttle]

When I was in basic we had a guy ask to go through the gas chamber a second time cause he loved the first one. Absolute madlads

[tepid lantern]

It's like spider-bites you can build up immunity but it's mostly in the anus

Gotta really get it in there or you're wasting your time

[solid needle]

lol 40?

We have 229 trainees

[flat shuttle]

i meant in that particular small group

idk what you guys call em platoons?

i was air force

flights of 40-50

700 trainees graduating a week

[obtuse dawn]

Wait I thought it was the marines that ate crayons

[flat shuttle]

it is marines

[solid needle]

Yes but it wasn’t a platoon that left their rifles, it was the whole Battery (company)

[swift edge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction

[obsidian geyser]

[solid needle]

He probably plays feral

[dense dew]

Let’s go boiz

[obtuse dawn]

I watch the show but every time I get done I’m like man I wanna restart GoT then die inside knowing what it became

[solid needle]

Most overrated show ever

[obtuse dawn]

It really was

Next to Lost

[tepid lantern]

Watching ep now & feeling kinda meh tbh

[obtuse dawn]

I felt the same, definitely didn’t feel like it did S1

And the ambiguous mention of white walkers yet I felt like I didn’t give a shit because they did them so dirty in the show

[tepid lantern]

Best part of the ep was showing the Starks

[obtuse dawn]

Yep

[solid needle]

Fire Mage is actually the best spec in TWW

[obtuse dawn]

Shhh it’s terrible

[solid needle]

You right

[obtuse dawn]

Feral is better

[solid needle]

Who wants combust every pack anyways

[obtuse dawn]

Every hero spec looks fun for mage

[solid needle]

Yeah, after actually looking, Mage is by far I think my fav

That Vesperai or whatever his name is dude has a video up

[nimble saffron]

Guys I did it 🥹
The PUG life rn is treacherous, do not recommend.

[solid needle]

Ok

[obtuse dawn]

Gratz! I did it S1 which I think was the worst season in DF, DF dungeons are terrible

TWW flying dungeon is gonna be toxic in S1

[covert loom]

S1 was goated

[nimble saffron]

S1 was toouuughhh for guardian.

[nimble saffron]

ok.

[obtuse dawn]

kissing affix was miserable

peak shit design for a seasonal affix

[vale sparrow]

Hi! After a long time not playing WoW I decided to try out MoP Remix. I've heard there are lots of stuff like toys and transmog that you can obtain in it. I started to level my druid and there is one questing that bothers me. Do I have to level, for example, priest as well, if I wanna get cool transmog on this class, or I can get it playing my druid?

I know there were added lots of things in the game that allows to progress not your character but the whole account, so does it work in my case?:)

[solid needle]

Yes

[vale sparrow]

ty

[obtuse dawn]

You can use the Druid to buy all the transmog for other classes, weapon transmogs are the exception as there isn’t any vendor (yet) to buy them per class

[obtuse dawn]

@solid needle I feel rather dumb sleeping on fire mage this entire expansion, it sucks immensely until about level 30 but after that it’s downright fun as hell

Feels like I’m always pressing something to make things explode

[solid needle]

Yeah it’s actually pog. The short CD helps the feel

[obtuse dawn]

I can’t imagine come TWW

It already feels like a mobile af caster

[solid needle]

Yeah it’s wild

Frost was already pretty mobile

Fire is basically Hunter mobility now

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah feels like it

Plus the feeling of elemental shaman lobbing meat balls at people

But ya know, actually being a useful class

[sturdy field]

you're spending more time picking a class than you'll actually play in tww xd

[obtuse dawn]

I think it’s safe to assume most people are doing the same

Cause ya know, other than remix retail doesn’t have much going on currently

[sturdy field]

there isnt really much to do in remix either

[obtuse dawn]

Transmog is neat 😄

[sturdy field]

can do that on retail too

[vale sparrow]

Ty

[obtuse dawn]

Anytime! Weapon transmog I think are around the corner via vendor

[obtuse dawn]

Jesus how long did it take?

[sturdy field]

I've been missing the chest piece for 3 years now

got it today

[sturdy field]

We wanted to let you know that your full game registration code for FINAL FANTASY XIV: Dawntrail will be sent to you via email. Codes will be sent out from June 24th, and this will be done sequentially, so it might take a bit of time until you receive your code

😂

[obtuse dawn]

They really put that

Fucking running on a windows 98 server I’m telling ya

[sturdy field]

I think the launch will be much better than endwalker

there is like zero hype for dawntrail anywhere beside the hardcore fans

[obtuse dawn]

From what I’ve seen I just don’t see anything I care about? The pictomancer looks rad but I don’t really see anything else

[sturdy field]

A lot of the hype around EW seemed like it was just people hating on wow and going hard on xiv lol

im hoping im an idiot and wrong and DT is cool, early access next friday

[candid edge]

Yes

This is my new wow

[obtuse dawn]

Since doing the oxez method of playing wow I definitely enjoy the game more

Wow not XIV. I’ll eventually get back to it once I get all these tier transmogs before DF ends

[sturdy field]

you got gummies? lol

[candid edge]

Just spent a few hours doing a full run of all the daily shit in MOP

Like 100k bronze and 20k thread

It’s insane lol

[obtuse dawn]

Yes siir

Definitely helps 😄

[fickle arch]

I really hope they do a legion time running

I would play the shit out of that

[candid edge]

Same

[sturdy field]

would be worth it if they add mage tower stuff

[tepid lantern]

New toys

[fickle arch]

this shit is so dangerous

be carefull cause like some of this stuff can fuck up poeples diabetes machines or pace makers or things like that

bio machines can get fucked up by this stuff

[tepid lantern]

@fickle arch yup i know

I don't do any transmitting only reading

Getting more & more into radio

[tepid lantern]

Here's most of my toys I have like quansheng radios and stuff

I am studying for amateur license so I can make a ham setup

Got the ARRL book

[fickle arch]

So kinda like og Digimon stuff

With your scanning and receiving

[tepid lantern]

Yeah i use the sdr and listen to police for no reason

[sturdy field]

@obtuse dawn fastest way to level to 50 in remix? dont really care past that

[tepid lantern]

RIP Foolio

https://youtu.be/yJqu246RVlc

The wars finally over

[obtuse dawn]

Uuuh, at 10 queue immediately for heroic dungeons (don’t loot any of the XP tokens you get from bosses), get to 25 in dungeons, join normal Mogu’Shan raid then continue to do heroics till 35 ((again don’t loot XP tokens). At 35 join normal Heart of Fear then queue heroics till 40-45'ish, go to mailbox, open all your tokens

I've never leveled just to 50 but I'd imagine you'd have enough tokens by then.

Healer and tank queues are like, 70 seconds for dungeons. If it were me, I'd switch to DPS and queue for the raids, people accept DPS faster now because healers are useless (they're pretty useless in dungeons too)

[solid needle]

If you do MSV and HoF normal you’d surely be well into 50s

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah sounds about right

[junior elbow]

I swear blood DK threat must be bugged in remix

Was constantly ripping threat off a brewmaster that was doing 5x my damage

[candid edge]

I regret loading this wa

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162988109236015127/1254454534747459634/image.png?ex=66798d53&is=66783bd3&hm=5b24078139a1239284c57990b7fe9a6d4a5c991e60e3ab30eb3ac37d52eded9e&

[digital galleon]

are you even remixing?

[obtuse dawn]

BDK do a shit ton of damage though in remix

So thats surprising

[obtuse dawn]

Clearly can tell where froggers put their bronze

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-lordoftherings-gollum-tricked-fooled-gif-3820027

[lime vortex]

awww crap

i'm going to need like 20 alchemists for tww

[junior elbow]

idk maybe details was lying to me

but he was def 476 and I def was not

maybe it's something with dancing rune weapon

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah maybe !

Love how everyone is leveling up a BDK seeing how guardian is doing in TWW

https://tenor.com/view/no-hope-there-is-no-hope-gif-13196680

[junior elbow]

Oh I'm still gonna play bear in tww idc

I just wanted something else for remix

[sturdy field]

I don't think people are rerolling to BDK because of how guardian is doing lol. Bear plays super fine on TWW, actually is in an ok spot. They just haven't bothered updating some stuff they said they'd do for other classes (and did), like moving a super important hero tree talent so its not at the very bottom of talent tree...

(bdk is just busted is the reason)

[junior elbow]

I only made a bdk because it was a tank I didn't have leveled lmao

Remix made me realize that 2 lines constantly in my brain are from the Blood in the Snow scenario, wild

"Filthy monsters! I owe ye my life." and "We will BURY you in your mountain!"

[empty bear]

Hello guys im farming flightstones wondering if raid is the most efficent like running through a normal raid

[obtuse dawn]

I actually just type that stuff to see how long it takes to fish for your answer 😄

[sturdy field]

[obtuse dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-friendship-day---sticky-figures-happy-friendship-day-sticky-figures-happy-friendshipday-friendship-day-gif-11027221157317671764

Who else is gonna give you shit on this discord? eh eh

[sturdy field]

about to level a lightforged

[obtuse dawn]

Their heritage armor looks sick

ah a lil paladin

[sturdy field]

i only care for the achievement points

they get deleted after 50 lo

[obtuse dawn]

Haha I figured

[solid needle]

Tbf. Bear is equally as boring in TWW as it has been since Legion

@obtuse dawn the more I look to better mage looks

[obtuse dawn]

Fire mage is just pure Michael Bay explosions

[obtuse dawn]

Damn so pre-patch is July 30th but remix characters dont get transferred till August 19th. Rough.

[tepid lantern]

It's almost as if they let you down every single time

2019 was the year i was lucky enough to quit

[obtuse dawn]

I’ve quit too many times, this game has my soul now. It’s been realistically the only thing there for me throughout my life

[white carbon]

dreamgrove is here for you always too kaed 💚💚💚

[tepid lantern]

Nah! You haven't even quit once, yet. Once you realize that you can break free

[obtuse dawn]

Aw thanks friend. ❤️

[obtuse dawn]

Also true 😂

[dusk loom]

Every Monday I rush to wowhead at 1pm to check for shaman patch notes

This close to prepatch I should prob be checking more often

[analog sedge]

There's no need to let yourself down more often then that

[obtuse dawn]

Rework is coming I can feel it

Gonna be a ret paladin level of rework too

[candid edge]

Nah

[obtuse dawn]

The only thing that makes me think a rework is coming is due to having zero patch notes as a class

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/80205-an-overview-of-all-class-changes-in-war-within-beta-build-55185/

Not a single shaman change

[uncut verge]

shaman tank spec when

[obtuse dawn]

DH range healer spec when

[solid needle]

They can’t even get the tank specs that already exist right

Why add more

[uncut verge]

same could be said for any role in this game

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid needle]

Except it’s not nearly as impactful

And the differences are much smaller

[uncut verge]

dont tell that to hunters

bm been the only spec all expac

[solid needle]

There will always be individual examples, all specs can’t and should not be represented

[uncut verge]

also i cant be the only one that thinks marksmen should get lust added to their lone wolf talent

shits stupid

[obtuse dawn]

Unless it’s fire mage. Fire mage should be everyone’s main

[solid needle]

Based

[solid needle]

Military Class 6 is the best thing out there

[obtuse dawn]

Also not to spoil TWW but there’s a certain shaman that tanks in a follower dungeon

Sooo maybe in the future

[obtuse dawn]

Looks delicious

[solid needle]

You have no idea

[obtuse dawn]

I’m not a huge liquor guy but that presentation looks amazing

[uncut verge]

the dream

[obtuse dawn]

Shows them as a tank role too

I was like, what the fuck is going on here

Also in retail I wouldn't mind a winds of wisdom buff or whatever they do at end of expansion to level alts with right now

[uncut verge]

mop remix

[obtuse dawn]

Eeeeh not the same when the characters transfer August 19th and TWW comes out 28th...

[uncut verge]

i dont see the issue there. level your alts and theyre rdy on the 18th

takes like few hours

[solid needle]

The problem is you can’t play them in prepatch

[uncut verge]

is prepatch not up until launch?

[solid needle]

Prepatch is up like July 30 when remix ends, but remix character migration isn’t until Aug 19th

[obtuse dawn]

Ding ding ding

Seems like an oversight

[sturdy field]

takes 2-3 hours to get to 70 on retail if you want one badly

[obtuse dawn]

Boosting ya mean?

[sturdy field]

No

timewalking is nice for leveling

I got everything to 70 in 2 weeks I think during the tw event they had at the end of S1

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah but you’re also built different

[sturdy field]

bro its dungeons lol

[obtuse dawn]

I think the buff will return, it was there for BFA and SL. Remix was never sold as a alt leveling experience like winds were

[sturdy field]

you go to the darkmoon faire, get your xp buff, queue for tw, take your gummies, and when you wake up you'Re 70

[obtuse dawn]

You said get to 70 in 2-3 hours, no way you’re getting 1-70 in a couple hours

[sturdy field]

assumed everything was at 60 already

[obtuse dawn]

Dungeons are at least 15 minutes

[sturdy field]

like a normal person

[obtuse dawn]

Cause alts start at 60

Damn musta missed that update

[sturdy field]

do you have like 4 of every class?

[obtuse dawn]

Nope

Hence talking about alts

Jesus dude get some water with those edibles

[sturdy field]

I've got pineapple bubbly , it is delicious

rip oilers, almost a reverse sweep

[solid needle]

Ima say it cause I’m drunk

I think remix is the best pre-prepatch/alt leveling they have ever done

[sturdy field]

just finished re-watching Travelers tv show, if you like time travel stuff this one is amazing. Time traveling "done right"

[obtuse dawn]

All you had to say

[obtuse dawn]

That show was great, RIP OG Marcy

One of better time traveling shows

[solid needle]

Hey, don’t judge

[sturdy field]

Yeah, it was a nice rewatch, catching small details

||The part where Maclaren sends the email "the traveler program will fail, DO NOT SEND 001" so the Director sees it, he invalidates the whole show lol, that was interesting||

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah, was pretty cool ending

[obtuse dawn]

People found a way off the prison of Pandaria on Remix 😄

[junior elbow]

god I hope it's the warp to draenor

that would be funny as shit

[dusk loom]

How I am in remix is similar to how a geared player should feel in the final season of an xpac

[frank arch]

how? its not as fast when im doing it 😄 started the game now

[frank arch]

now i can see how

speedran a dung in a minute

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah in remix it’s insanely fast, retail not so much 😅

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/seasonal-rewards-from-delves-in-the-war-within-season-1-void-airship-cloak-343179#comments

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-16817725819456914284

[solid needle]

Yawn

[obtuse dawn]

M+ changes look solid

[candid edge]

Yeah

[obtuse dawn]

Good on blizzard for finally listening

[candid edge]

Ripcord level dub imo

[obtuse dawn]

Yepppp

[candid edge]

Just fix how u need to fish for the right key randomly for io by doing a bunch of keys and they can go for the hat trick

[obtuse dawn]

Solid point

Rework shaman and call it a day

[candid edge]

How do u feel about

Depletes

This one comes up a lot

depleted and -1 key level

[sturdy field]

They could do what D3 did and it would solve a lot of issues. Click on the little key pedestral when you enter dungeon, you select the difficulty you want, and you go

the argument people have against this is "but then ppl will just farm their weekly in the easy dungeon", that's on blizzard for making us hate the other dungeons

[obtuse dawn]

I wonder if they're seeing on their numbers that casual players just are too intimidated by M+ so they dont do it

[candid edge]

i don't like any of the current dungeons

so i simply don't do them

[obtuse dawn]

Same. They really need to add in some fun variety if it's gonna be just a rehash of s1

[candid edge]

tbh tho

and i might be minority

but i despise rotating dungeons

i liked learning all the dungeons early and then just seeing how easonal affeted them

every season

instead of learning new every season

[obtuse dawn]

So you'd prefer to have whatever expansions core dungeons remain for 4 seasons?

[candid edge]

that's my preference yeah, with maybe 1-2 new

which is kinda what the megadungeons did

later on

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah I can see your point of view on that, most players who are casual m+ players arent going to look up each season how to do each dungeon, mechanics etc

[dusk loom]

THEY REMEMBERED SHAMAN

[obtuse dawn]

Knewwww it

I bet shaman discord is celebrating

[solid needle]

Only Bear forgotten

As it should be

[dusk loom]

no one is celebrating until they announce what the changes are

[obtuse dawn]

Cant be any worse than the class is now

Well unless they made it into bear, thats the worst

[dusk loom]

i see a lot of DHs bitching and moaning

[obtuse dawn]

Couldn't be S tier 5 seasons in a row I guess

@solid needle

[solid needle]

How dare they get mentioned

[obtuse dawn]

Dummy effect for being played

[sturdy field]

Sure<

[obtuse dawn]

@solid needle think I’m rounding either SV, fire mage or if the rework is decent enhancement

[solid needle]

My list is Mage, Mage, or Lock

[obtuse dawn]

Fire mage feels like playing a gd piano

Like doing the insta casts inside of combustion while timing it with your pyroblasst breaks my brain

[solid needle]

It’s so easy though, it’s a set pattern

[obtuse dawn]

I think it’s the lil inside stuff that’s killing me

I can do enhancement fine oddly

[solid needle]

You mean the ogcd fire blast

[obtuse dawn]

That and timing your scorch etc

I mean it’s fun I just need to get the rotation down

[solid needle]

I love it

[obtuse dawn]

It’s hard because SV is so gd mobile

[solid needle]

And Arcane has always been my fav spec

[obtuse dawn]

Arcane breaks my brain entirely

[sturdy field]

how lol

its 4 buttons

you repeat the same 4 buttons everuy 45 seconds

[sturdy field]

You have more buttons for the "big burn", but the mini burn it's 5 (ok, not 4)

But it's always the same loop, spark->tempest->barrage+totm (in a macro ideally since totm is offgcd) and then blast or barrage if ST or AoE

[obtuse dawn]

I’ll have to give it a shot

Granted the shaman rework isn’t shit I’ll probably main it cause it’s the only spec that offers healing, melee and range which I like

[sturdy field]

evo/surge are damage amps you get every big burn

[sturdy field]

Bro you're in dreamgrove lol

Interesting though, feral is blasting in keys on beta atm, I kicked our fire mage's ass earlier

[obtuse dawn]

Offtopic in dreamgrove

😉

[obtuse dawn]

Crazy Blizzard also killed glimmer for Holy Paladins too

Been around since BfA

[digital galleon]

@queen thicket https://packaged-media.redd.it/lclll4jtxs8d1/pb/m2-res_854p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1719403200&s=bb63521f22c79feda5b38bf5f297b3e9a60b7894#t=0

first meeting with a rat

(not mine)

[timid walrus]

Has the illegally smoll snout been booped?

[digital galleon]

I hope so

[obsidian geyser]

??? Why not

[digital galleon]

no dogs allowed in the house I live in sadly.

[obsidian geyser]

That's a smol one counts as kleintier

[digital galleon]

I wish

[queen thicket]

The cutest video the world has ever seen!!!

[sturdy field]

dawntrail is available to pre-download from launcher (or if you screwed up and bought the game on steam, its available there too)

[obtuse dawn]

good look out!

[sturdy field]

potentially saves a few hours friday before the potential hours of login queues 😎

[obtuse dawn]

I’m leaving for NY in a couple days so I’ll catch up on my XIV when I get back. Nice thing about that game is there’s zero rush

[sturdy field]

Zero rush? You'll be permanently behind on tomestones

[obtuse dawn]

😂😂😂

My mentality to xiv is treating it like a single player

[sturdy field]

It's the bis gear for ppl who aren't going to clear savage

there's no rush in wow either tbh if you consider it that

[obtuse dawn]

Wow I treat as a MMO

BE THE BEST

in LFR

And yeah wow has no rush either esp now that I’m guildless

[sturdy field]

I'm in a guild that does mythic and honestly there's no rush at all, first two weeks is just chilling and doing the new content, the competitive stuff comes out 2 weeks after release iirc

and alts/professions

[obtuse dawn]

That sounds like a very reasonable guild

This the all frenchy one?

[sturdy field]

Yeah, but what else ist here to do anyway before raids start lol

[junior elbow]

just leveling and crafting

I believe it's 2 weeks before the normal raids and 4 weeks before the savages

[sturdy field]

can do M0s week1 I think before raids, there are reps for items that you replace soon as season starts

still undecided if I will raid so that'd be even less work

[junior elbow]

yeah xiv isn't much of an actual MMO unless your group is literally 8 people or less

[sturdy field]

Oh I meant wow lol

[junior elbow]

ah

I always like to go around clearing all the quests out the new zones

[sturdy field]

but yeah in XIV I don't do savage, I'll do the full MSQ, then start doing the custom deliveries for crafters, and level Viper

[junior elbow]

tbh I'm only doing dawntrail because my brother asked me to play with him

[sturdy field]

story doesn't seem very exciting, but we shall see

[junior elbow]

I'm omni maxleveled and i couldn't care less about the story, and the gameplay is just so jank compared to wow

[sturdy field]

If I can make a viper that looks like early assassin's creed character it'll be my new main

[junior elbow]

mostly kinda done with that game

[sturdy field]

Yeah same, I only have MNK and BLU that are not maxed. Doubt it'll ever be my "main" game but its there for when I want to get into it

[junior elbow]

it's alright when they make content for it but they just

dont put out content very frequently lmao

[sturdy field]

Yeah new content is usually just a few quests, dungeon and sometimes trial lol

[obtuse dawn]

Bingo

[junior elbow]

lmao

[candid edge]

Ah the “we don’t fucking know what to do treatment@

Bears remember this

[obtuse dawn]

Just the start

Rise of the shaman

[junior elbow]

My totem is rising
And so is my shaman

[merry jungle]

all I see is leech power increesing for dps

[obtuse dawn]

Seems to indicate more than just a 30% buff

[obtuse dawn]

@solid needle fire nerf :/

[solid needle]

Oh well, there are 3 specs

[obtuse dawn]

True

[solid needle]

Bet it’s still good

Looks like smaller tweaks

[tepid lantern]

Someone play dnd w me

[obtuse dawn]

I... tried dnd once and played it with people who take 2 weeks to come up with a character sheet. Never played again.

[solid needle]

Only 2 weeks?

[obsidian geyser]

that doesnt even sound bad

[solid needle]

I’ve never played DnD and I spent about a month on a sheet

[sturdy field]

I got invited to the cool guys DnD games when I was like 12, but I really wasn't into it, so I went "Bathroom, brb" and I went back to play n64 at home

[solid needle]

lol

[tepid lantern]

We should run a simple campaign we're all noobs

There's a 4 session starter set I wanna run

[junior elbow]

I stopped playing dnd because the classic scheduling difficulties

but its a fun time with good people

[obtuse dawn]

Maaaan PSU just popped. RIP little buddy.

I hope you just didn’t kill my entire machine

[junior elbow]

RIP

that's the big suck

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah :/ loud pop too

[tepid lantern]

Oh snap

Hopefully not

[obtuse dawn]

Only 2 years old so musta been a faulty psu

[tepid lantern]

Was it graded like gold or whatever the frick

All it takes is 1 cheapo Chinese wire

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah 80 plus gold

1000w MSI

Such is life

[solid needle]

I only buy seagate and corsair

[obtuse dawn]

I usually just get Corsair but they still don’t have a native 12vhpwr slot yet for a 4090

And seagates is $500

[solid needle]

How much was MSI

[obtuse dawn]

Capacitor musta blown for the pop to happen

[obtuse dawn]

$200ish

[solid needle]

X2

[obtuse dawn]

?

[solid needle]

Well cause now you gotta buy another

So x2

[obtuse dawn]

Fuck that

I’m gonna get the new one, see if anything is fried

Then RMA the old one

More paranoid it took out my GPU and motherboard

Caaaause usually when PSUs die it’s a gradual death. This pop was loud af and sudden. Wasn’t even gaming.

[solid needle]

No

[red kernel]

ye

[obsidian geyser]

n

o

[obtuse dawn]

Proper response woulda been “okay”

[solid needle]

Okay

[junior elbow]

m

o

o

[solid needle]

No

[obtuse dawn]

Perfect.

[solid needle]

Last day with trainees

[obtuse dawn]

Feel a bit sad?

It’s okay to miss them

[solid needle]

A little

[obtuse dawn]

It’s time to go home and enjoy life again 😂

[sturdy field]

"Due to the complexity of Astral Fire and Umbral Ice mechanics, we felt that the learning curve for black mage's actions and rotations was too steep when compared with other jobs"

aka: "We made the one class with an interesting rotation less fun to play"

[solid needle]

Damn if I still played I’d be mad

That’s what made it fun

[sturdy field]

they also dumbed down red mage lol

your spell (manafication i think its called) that gave you full mana so you can cast your combo, now just gives you the ability to do your combo (and doesnt give mana anymore), so ppl don't overcap. I felt mana management was part of the fun and timing your cds so that you wouldn't overcap

[solid needle]

You mean the red blue thing?

[sturdy field]

white mana and black mana, need 50 of each to combo (the cd gave 50 of each)

[solid needle]

Yeah that

I liked RDM

[obtuse dawn]

I mean let’s be real here, the gaming industry with the exception of FromSoftware (and even then gamers bitch it’s too hard) has been dumbing down their games, MMOs aren’t the exception

Blizzard dumbed down how many classes now to appeal to an easier playstyle ?

[sturdy field]

Not a lot? lol

[obtuse dawn]

Bullshittttt

[sturdy field]

XIV had 2 classes where the rotations were not: 1-2-3 (and 4 once a minute)

you could just play something else

If you go check the balance discord, the only folks who are happy about it are the ones who don't really play the class xd

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah but then the entire job gets neglected because players don’t want to play it because it’s perceived as being too difficult.

[sturdy field]

(it wasn't difficult)

[junior elbow]

When players are using AI to generate new rotation lines to get more DPS, your class isn't interesting, it's badly designed

It's okay for the class to be intuitive

[sturdy field]

I think the only class I've looked up rotations to educate myself was ninja because of the crazy opener, BLM you jsut had to sit down and read what the spells did

[junior elbow]

Relying on thunder procs for movement and dot uptime was garbage

[sturdy field]

They're not changing the rotation much, but stuff like knowing when to use certain buttons to maximize your damage while moving, all that is gone. Skill expression doesn't have to be a bad thing

[junior elbow]

And relying on server ticks for your mana to be correct was fucking stupid

[sturdy field]

that's square being incompetent with netcode

[junior elbow]

"skill expression"

[obtuse dawn]

Agreed. BLM needed a rework for some time

[sturdy field]

for bad players yeah

[junior elbow]

BLM has been hot trash for years and all of these changes look good. Coming from a BLM player

[sturdy field]

Sure if you like it, enjoy I guess

[junior elbow]

The people whining about "skill expression" are just mad they won't have some ridiculous arbitrary tech to hold over the heads of new players

[sturdy field]

artitrary tech lol

Timing Ice Paradox for movement was such advanced tech

[junior elbow]

And the job will still be fucking trash because the fights won't let you stand still for 3 seconds to cast, I guarantee it

[obtuse dawn]

Eh, you act as though everyone who plays an MMO has time to be a skilled player. These days people want to login, game for whatever time they have and get off. They don’t want to sit learning a garbo playstyle optimally

[sturdy field]

I'm not saying that at all

[obtuse dawn]

Blizzard realized this years ago

[sturdy field]

There are choices, you can either play a black mage or play a summoner

Same as now, you can either play a BM hunter or play enhance

Or if you enjoy tracking 3-4 dots, you can do aff/feral, if you want to turn brain off there are easier picks

"Dw blm will be left with only the imaginary people these changes were catered to" sounds about right lol

[obtuse dawn]

You’re a more skilled job to play = more fun to play. Others may not see the job that way

MMOs are changing grandpa 😂

[solid needle]

I feel like, if they don’t wanna put the time in, they should just choose another class

[sturdy field]

not everything has to be tuned for the super casual people. I've always said that games like wow/xiv needs content for everyone, and even more content for people who aren't doing end game. But when you have 30 classes, they don't all need to be noob friendly.

[junior elbow]

It's the most iconic caster in the final fantasy franchise of course casuals will want to play it

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah I was gonna say this but figured it was a given

[obtuse dawn]

I don’t work in the industry so I can’t really say these days. I look at my nephew and he thinks every game that isn’t Fortnite is too hard so maybe MMOs are just following suite to match the new generation of gamers.

[sturdy field]

That's hilarious

[obtuse dawn]

I just wonder how most people play MMOs these days. Are they sitting in discords questioning talents, looking on wowhead, optimizing their rotations etc or are they just logging in and hitting buttons

[sturdy field]

Not aimed at your nephew, but the idea that games have to cater to the fortnite crowd

[sturdy field]

All of the above really

[obtuse dawn]

Man it’s sad. I put them in front of Mario kart and they asked why it’s so slow

[sturdy field]

Having every class in these games catered to the lowest denominator doesn't sound like games are headed for the better

typo'd the strange word

[obtuse dawn]

Some tin foil hat on me thinks they dumb down games to get the most players to play then introduce micro-transactions to sweep the widest net for $$$

[sturdy field]

Think they also removed most cases where you could overcap on w/e ressource your job/class has, like sure you can argue it makes it easier to play. But even if you kept overcapping you could play fine and do all content. Learning to play better you were rewarded with better damage, even wow has kept that, druid alone they let you overcap on rage/energy/combopoints/astralpower

Just looks like the end-game really has fallen low on their priority, w/e

[candid edge]

Based

Plus I think wows approach over time was to simplify and streamline the classes and shift the burden of mechanical difficulty and cognitive load stressors into the encounters and content themselves, which the player themselves can titrate the difficulty tot heir own personal preferences.

[obtuse dawn]

Very true.

I also see daily from WoW players complaining about “why should I be playing this “complex” class if this other simple class with a simple rotation can do more dps/hps”. All they seem to care about is where they are on Details, that’s it.

[versed timber]

While helping a friend close up Endwalker MSQ, we had a white mage spamming Medica and Cure on Zeromus. I'd go with eating crayons and sniffing glue as an answer.

[junior elbow]

lucky sob

can afford glue

[obtuse dawn]

Hahaha not surprised. 🤣

[sturdy field]

I'm more of the opinion that classes being good / interesting and fun to play makes every piece of content fun. Doesn't matter if you make the most amazing boss fight, if my class is boring as fuck I'm not gonna enjoy the fight lol. Give me a cool class, and I'll gladly fight bosses in 16x16 square rooms like in XIV. There's a ton of min-maxing on almost every class in wow, and the beauty is yuo don't have to do any of it. But it's there if you want to go the extra mile

[candid edge]

Is cancelaura tech beauty

[sturdy field]

you know it isn't lol

Is that starlord still?

What I had in mind, and we can take balance as an example, your average casual player will hit Starsurge as soon as they have enough Astral Power instead of pooling and sending it just to not overcap (not sure if that's 100% the play, but its prob close enough?) Then when they have to move for mechanics, they do no damage. But they can do the content just fine, and most people in their group won't even notice.

[versed timber]

Spent 12 minutes on that fight and we finished with 4 alive

[sturdy field]

That fight is fun on extreme, rescue can be useful 😱

[versed timber]

It's always useful to clown your friends

[dusk loom]

Not to be a gloomy gus but the new screens we ordered arrived...and they dont fit the window. whoever took the measurements took them for the window frame, not the screen frame

and our order of brown rice syrup arrived...with one of the glasses completely smashed

[candid edge]

Holy fuck that sucks

[dusk loom]

opened the package and took my hand out covered in syrup and glass shards

i think i can save one of the jars but the other is too covered in syrup and shards of the broken one

ok vent over thank you

[obtuse dawn]

Sorry boo, keep your head up and remember today is just another day.

Tomorrow will be better

[dusk loom]

i hope so. normally little things dont bother me but we've been waiting several months for those screens and i really dislike glass in my hand

[dusk loom]

oh i am now battling amazon customer service

[obsidian geyser]

@timid walrus https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFuckingComment/comments/1dpjvcl/nfc/

[obtuse dawn]

Man… I don’t even know how to feel about that

Poor dude

[dusk loom]

I haven't watched any star wars content since Mando s2. But if the rumors about Ahsoka s2 are true, then I might actually watch it. And if they do a good enough job, I may even pay to watch it

[obtuse dawn]

Andor was amazing, best Star Wars story we’ve had for a loooong time

The rest have been terrible besides mando s1

[dusk loom]

I should watch Andor

I have heard multiple good things about it

[obtuse dawn]

It’s great, leaves out all the Jedi/skywalker saga stuff

It’s just normies

I think it’s time they get off the Jedi train and start to look at the extended universe for stories. There’s so many great characters in the franchise outside of Jedi/sith etc

[dusk loom]

Well that's why I'm intrigued by the rumors about Ahsoka s2

They're going off the deep end of the EU

Says they're brining in || Abeloth ||

[obtuse dawn]

Hmmm I mean I’m all for it

[obsidian geyser]

@timid walrus

[timid walrus]

loaf!

[sturdy field]

new sage eukrasia thing, pretty cool for dungeons

[obtuse dawn]

How’s the servers been

[sturdy field]

Surprisingly they have been fine

I login'd at 5am and was playing at 5:03

[obtuse dawn]

I plan on starting a pictomancer and finishing endwalker 😅

[sturdy field]

i studied viper a bit, think i got it down, unlocked picto but haven't really looked at it

the idle pose is just badass for viper lol

would recommend doing a healer or tank tho, my dps queues for viper are like.. 30min+

[digital hazel]

teleport moonglade = insta die to friendly npcs xd

[tepid lantern]

Cuz your faction rep?

[obtuse dawn]

@sturdy field the lighting and model updates look quite a bit better in xiv

They did a good job with it

[sturdy field]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F14qvfvqmqh9d1.gif

[obtuse dawn]

One face ain’t too bad

[obtuse dawn]

Queues are great too, very smooth launch

Must have done something with the server capacity and timeouts

See if TWW does as well

[candid edge]

so close

[sturdy field]

there are a lot less people playing then EW

[obtuse dawn]

Show me the numbers on that claim

[sturdy field]

I don't have any numbers, but do you legit believe there are as many ppl in DT than EW launch?

[obtuse dawn]

Per steamdb there are.. 3,000 less right now from EW

Server queue should be at 20k based on EW launch

[sturdy field]

prob a bigger gap outside steam

[obtuse dawn]

lol okay

[sturdy field]

wow bad, ff good, got it

[obtuse dawn]

I’ve never said that but again, okay

[candid edge]

i checked my vibes and i do too believe that DT is doing worse

than EW

[obtuse dawn]

This expansion was very meh 🫤

[sturdy field]

Like I'm sure numbers might not be as bad a I think they are, but EW came out during shadowlands where a lot of ppl hated the game. I think the vast majority of those people stopped FF once wow took back its strides

[sturdy field]

which one

[obtuse dawn]

Dawntrails features and hype

But maybe because EW was like the end of the story and this has to build up to a whole new storyline

[sturdy field]

A lot of the hype (affecting me) was from wow streamers just keep talking about it

[obtuse dawn]

TWW beta is fucking lit though

Questing is fun

Love the world they built

[sturdy field]

Dawntrail's story just now got interesting, and I'm like, 30 hours in

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah see fuck that 😂

TWW starts with a bang

[sturdy field]

ive been doing side stuff

and yes I told ppl that, they botj start new stories, one has blahblah for hours and the other|| one has a city crash on an island||

spoiler tag in case ppl car about tww lol

[obtuse dawn]

I’ve loved every questing minute in TWW thus far. Some sentimental shit too with some of the side quests

I think XIV just hasn’t been risky enough with their decisions like wow has been. They’ve played it safe

[sturdy field]

First trial in DT actually a cool fight, better than every raid boss Dragonflight had minus a few

[obtuse dawn]

That’s good

Pictomancer is fun as well

I enjoy the animations and whimsical theme

[sturdy field]

haven't looked at it beyond unlock.

[obtuse dawn]

Dashing around on paint is fun

[sturdy field]

uhm also

ff now has the same bug wow had for years

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1dqkk5v/psa_try_this_if_your_textures_seem_blurry/

and the same fix works

instantly noticed the difference yesterday

[obtuse dawn]

Too funny

[candid edge]

It’s ARR all over again

Setting the story for another 10 year story arc

[sturdy field]

im sure if one would be focusing on just the story it prob doesn't take half I took, but i got distracted by a ton of stuff in game lol

[candid edge]

I just remembered I drunkenly skimmed thru all the EW cutscenes last night lmao

[sturdy field]

thought you were still in india

[candid edge]

I am

I did it on YouTube

[tepid lantern]

Baby Eevee

Taking her to the Pokémon World Championship here in Hawaii dressed as Eevee

[white carbon]

IS HER NAME ACTUALLY EEVEE ?? OMGGG SO PRECIOUS

[tepid lantern]

Yup!

[obtuse dawn]

WoW needs this.

[sturdy field]

They sometimes do it with phasing, could be a good addition but at least we have auto dismount and interact key

[obsidian coyote]

WoW needs this.

[tepid lantern]

The wart within

[obtuse dawn]

True but then you have taurens just sitting there or like in caverns everyone just crowded the one NPC

Would be nice to just not even see them on my screen around any quest npc

[timid walrus]

Loaf!

[dense dew]

Ppl cansay what they want about Airport Oribos but...

That thing is very well optimized (rendering scale 4K)

[solid needle]

Ok

[obtuse dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[obsidian geyser]

$loaf

@tulip coral

[tepid lantern]

I don't like these videos of people getting stuck cave exploring

Now completely covering yourself in Vaseline every day doesn't seem so silly, huh?

[sharp fog]

Loaf

[dusk loom]

What they should really do is ingest some explosives first, so if/when you do get stuck, you can widen the cavity for the next person

[versed timber]

Smart

[analog sedge]

Butters found a turtle

[versed timber]

[obtuse dawn]

How you liking Dawntrail?

Debated switching to potato

[sturdy field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/1ds3iqh/can_someone_explain_dt_ruined_blm_to_a_non_blm/

Looks like everyone agrees that the changes to BLM are garbage

[obtuse dawn]

Pictomancer is fun af

Simple

[versed timber]

First half of thé storyline is boring as fuck

Second half is less boring but not that great

[obtuse dawn]

I hear that 😂

[versed timber]

Dungeons and trials are cool

[sturdy field]

First half is competing with ARR levels of boring

[obtuse dawn]

Y’all making me not rush

Gonna just enjoy EW

[versed timber]

Switch to popoto

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah probably will I wanna be a lil potato artist

Pictomancer just feels like playing a lil animated looney tunes character

[sturdy field]

I'm killing every picto on sight in frontlines because their sounds are annoying af

not sure if its them but i don't remember hearing those before lol

[obtuse dawn]

Oh it’s bad

I can’t wait for dalamud to get back online so I can edit out the sound s

I thought Sage was bad

[sturdy field]

Might be a bug, because other sage sounds are a bit lower, the picto you hear the full BRRRRRRRRRRRR

[obtuse dawn]

Picto needed another sound effect Passover to lower the volume of their spells

Yep

I noticed it last night

I was like fuuuck that’s annoying

With the sound filter plugin it’ll be an easy fix

[tulip coral]

[obsidian geyser]

loaf

[versed timber]

Happy mocha !

[obtuse dawn]

Todays the day (sorta)

https://www.wowhead.com/news/shaman-talent-tree-updates-on-war-within-beta-343984

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230675085027840003/1257460401789075477/image.png?ex=66847cc2&is=66832b42&hm=21a8a3eef2eafc5798a10a7c21340d1fab86b94794115ddc642bd9a1eb56cc81&

Talent trees look really good now

[sturdy field]

that existed since shadowlands

as a pvp talent

doubt it has uses in pve but guess pvpers will be happy uh

[candid edge]

That’s probably a must pick talent rn

With how rampant aff shadowplay is

you just kick any shadow spell off CD and get a walking 45% DR

[sturdy field]

Gonna wait for what the actual tree but looks like they learned to make class trees, as per tradition druid is the first one they do and its garbage, then they "learn" from their mistakes but forget to go back and fix the crap lmao

[sturdy field]

On another note, the mount you can buy with gold in dawntrail is sick (the 7.5m one, heard theres another)

[obtuse dawn]

Wonder what the class would look like if balance didn’t exist

Having 4 specs really did Druid dirty

[sturdy field]

Also not all shamans are happy atm, enhance looks dead, their discord is in dooming mode, hope whoever did those changes stay far from druid, we could use the warlock person instead

[obtuse dawn]

Shamans always be dooming

[sturdy field]

did you check their pin

its even worse than guardian

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah 😂

[sturdy field]

im not even done with the MSQ and have played close to 13-14 hours a day since friday lmao, watching all cutscenes, almost 2nd char at 100, working on viper too

[obtuse dawn]

I wanna say this is just the first pass for shamans but after what they did to Druids

[obtuse dawn]

Worth the $65 I suppose

I’m over here 13 quests into EW 😅

[sturdy field]

Yeah. I think everyone knows by now it starts really slow, but the 2nd half, god damn

[obtuse dawn]

EW or DT?

[sturdy field]

DT

Endwalker felt good from start to finish iirc

[obtuse dawn]

Good to know!

[sturdy field]

I want to say soimething about the 6.x patches but not going to until you've done them

[obtuse dawn]

Thanks boo

[versed timber]

2nd half is better but still riddled with fillers

And well, I hope we won't sée fucking Wuk Lamat in thé post game, can't stand her character

[white carbon]

SHES LITERALLY SO CUTE AND AWESOME AND COOL HOOWWWWWWW DO YOU NOT LIKE HER

[versed timber]

Too much screen Thyme

Plus she's basicaly young Naruto, babbling about being thé village chieftain while being an inept fuck

[white carbon]

okie so ur a hater got it

[versed timber]

Well, I went through thé whole MSQ, and I ended up missing chars I hâte less than her.

||Getting kidnapped by a random hobo was peak WL narration||

Level 93-94 spoiler above

[digital galleon]

D{0}=(2.32{-2.10}^{+20.79} is this correct?

I know the basics on how to write out math but Im not sure in this case

[versed timber]

[digital galleon]

help me out plow you are an engeneer

[versed timber]

I'm not

I'm a mechanical designer !

[digital galleon]

[versed timber]

[hardy whale]

You're a fashion robot?