offtopic

[obtuse dawn]

I need to get back to my GNB

Trying to level up my DRK

I love GNB though

[solid needle]

[obtuse dawn]

True

Go play Warcraft Rumble

Surprisingly fun

[sturdy field]

this is more important, watching a lalafel do backflips on snow

[obtuse dawn]

😂😂😂

[obsidian geyser]

big fan

those ducks are great

[sturdy field]

Yeah, someone from our FC has been playin that idle duck game, someone bought everyone that duck minion lol

[obtuse dawn]

Nvm.

Massive 11.0 Leak:

[sturdy field]

1.0*

[obtuse dawn]

[candid edge]

I still find something charming about this and want to play it

Lol

[obtuse dawn]

Me too

[somber pumice]

Today's most important information was Tekken 8 new character, Vincent Chevalier

French character, feeling a tiny pang of patriotic pride :p

[obtuse dawn]

Updated Blizzcon Map with an area not seen before at other blizzcons

[somber pumice]

Besides he's dubbed by Vincent Cassel

[obtuse dawn]

||Portal Pass Lounge||

Whatever the hell that is

[spare dew]

pretty sure the portal pass is like the 'super' pass orw ahtever u wanna call it

extra stuff, costs a lot more

[somber pumice]

Battle Pass Lounge

Now that would be something

[obtuse dawn]

So like box seats?

[somber pumice]

More like VIP space

[obtuse dawn]

Ah

"demo space"

[somber pumice]

"rich man space"

"Kaed space" :v

[obtuse dawn]

"Corridor of Time"

Thats something

[obtuse dawn]

Wondering if expansion is time fuckery related

[spare dew]

basically a way for people with too much money to throw their money away

[obtuse dawn]

If I was going to Blizzcon once in my life I'd do it

fuck it

[spare dew]

yea fair. I'd prob rather waste my money on really good overpriced food, but maybe just do both

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah same, food, hotel, portal pass

Now if I was living in anaheim and went every year, yeah, general admission

[candid edge]

I’d only do blizzcon once and would def go all out personally

[obtuse dawn]

Kaed space would be to the right, aka "Quiet Room", people drain the fuck outta me

Give me a couple of those nap pods in the space

[solid needle]

@candid edge this is what I did

[obtuse dawn]

What blizzcon did you go to?

[solid needle]

Uhhh

16?

[obtuse dawn]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/BlizzCon_2016

[solid needle]

Nope it was 2015

Legion announcement

[obtuse dawn]

Ah yeah that one musta been fun

[solid needle]

Well, legion trailer

[obtuse dawn]

They axed Q&A this year

[solid needle]

Don’t think legión was actually announced at a Blizzcon

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaW1ia_1Zs

Maybe was announced before

with the cinematic hype

[solid needle]

Cause they had announced it a couple months before

Then the trailer released at Blizzcon

[obtuse dawn]

Ye, looks like it

Man I remember that trailer

Legion hype was something else

[solid needle]

Most overrated xpac ever

And I’ll fight people over that

[obtuse dawn]

Anyone wanna take bets Metzen does the opening, all coked up?

[solid needle]

Surely since he is fresh back

[obtuse dawn]

So Thrall will be back for sure

[solid needle]

Will have to rescue him for the 17th time

[obtuse dawn]

Hahaha

Yeeeep

Im impressed we're less than 20 hours away from Blizzcon and not a single real leak

They must have security roaming the con grounds every 15 minutes

[tulip coral]

I went to blizzcon twice in person, 2011 and 2013, pretty nice tbh

10/10 would go again. I wanted to make the trip out there this year but work is a bit slammed with stuff. I plan on going next year with my bf, he has never gone to one in person

@timid walrus

she was very eepy today while I was working

[obtuse dawn]

Fucking baller over here

Got you beat @solid needle, ya damn poor pleb

[solid needle]

Wasn’t worth going more than once for me

Especially not with current state of Blizz games

[tulip coral]

Christie Golden did sign my book, which was pretty awesome

I know what ya mean

[solid needle]

Spent like $4k, so might go cheap route if I ever go again

[obtuse dawn]

You def need the portal lounge

[solid needle]

I got VIP when I went, which was solid

But after flight, hotel, etc

[obtuse dawn]

Ah shit, that’d be great. Does she even write anymore for them? I loved her books

[obtuse dawn]

Would you go to hang out with your bestie? Aka me?

[solid needle]

No

I’d just fly to you and hang out

[obtuse dawn]

I’ll buy you dinner 😉😉😉

I read that as I’d fly to you and hang you

I was like you really do know me well

[tulip coral]

I'm not sure anymore, I know Richard Knaak on occasion has wrote some of the main stories on and off. I haven't checked in forever tbh

[obtuse dawn]

Looks like she still is, didn’t write the latest but a couple before

[versed timber]

Eepy loaf ❤️

[obtuse dawn]

I loved Arthas: Rise of the Lich King though

So much great lore blizzard just yeeted out of the story in game

[tulip coral]

I bought this one but I haven't read it yet. I should put it on my read list once I'm done with a few other books of mine

[obtuse dawn]

Definitely humanizes Arthas a bit

[obsidian geyser]

WHAT loaf isnt coming for the anouncement of the new expansion?! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468529919866044446/1169431517928362016/SPOILER_im-a-little-disappointed-this-expansion-never-happened-v0-5ru6zn1y5rxb1.webp?ex=655560f8&is=6542ebf8&hm=336e8d58887345edcdb8a9ae5ed43ac94f45595d6196f140791240a67e849771&

[tulip coral]

[shy mesa]

Never been to a Blizzcon, never will.

Conventions are kinda meh.

Also, I hate being in a swarm of people.

(Hence I also avoid concerts and anything ressembling gatherings of people)

[solid needle]

Ok

[obtuse dawn]

Wonder how overall DF will be received/looked back on in a year

[candid edge]

favorably

like almost every expansion before it

sometimes i hear people pining for SL

[obtuse dawn]

I miss SL

Nothing like doing laps in Oribus because there was nothing else to do

[solid needle]

Y’all high af

[obtuse dawn]

True

[white carbon]

I miss legion

[clever temple]

[balmy current]

good new movies?

[timid walrus]

Oh No, who toppled loaf?

[somber pumice]

New Miyazaki is out this week and is pretty good

[somber pumice]

Also Killers of the Flower Moon if you haven't watched it yet

[somber pumice]

Cata / WoD / SL weren't well received imo

[solid needle]

WoD is pog

[obtuse dawn]

Today is the DAY!

Who’s ready to beat Hogger in Warcraft Rumble?

Not gonna lie, I like the game. It’s fun.

[shy mesa]

This one is at the top of the box office recently in Quebec.

Conversely, I heard the last Indiana Jones flopped.

only 383 millions worldwide. Far from the 900 M it needed to make to cover the costs.

It made even less money than the Crystal Skull movie.

[versed timber]

Corgi and gnome focused xpac announcement soon

[shy mesa]

🙏

[obtuse dawn]

At 40 my body can’t manage to sit through a 3+ hour movie in one sitting anymore

[versed timber]

I'd settle for either half, tho

[shy mesa]

Weakness.

[obtuse dawn]

No way no how

And yes am weak

But I’d rather sit in my living room

It’ll be out in the seven seas in 3 months, I can wait

[shy mesa]

Going to the movies is also a cultural experience.

Did you know that in India, the movie-goers will react and even talk to the screen?

like: "Behind you!"

etc.

It may have changed since then, but during my class on Indian culture, this is what I was told. =/

[obtuse dawn]

Another reason I’m never going to India

I hate it when people talk in the movies

[versed timber]

One more reason to get your movies from thé river

[obsidian geyser]

Is it mobile only?

[obtuse dawn]

Looks like it ya

It's a good "hey Im laying in bed and can't sleep" kinda game

[obtuse dawn]

Finally a solid leak

[versed timber]

Now that's a leak I believe in

[obtuse dawn]

Right?

[versed timber]

Clever of them to name the expansion "Fake Expansion" to dismiss any leak in mere seconds

[obtuse dawn]

I do like the design and colors though

the black/purple looks cool

[versed timber]

Yup

And would be a safe bet for an xpac we'd go after Iridikon and some possible void stuff he's intertwined with

A couple hours to know, now :3

[obtuse dawn]

I hope

I want tinker (not gonna happen) and void shit

seen a couple of rumors on rogue getting a support spec

and DH

[versed timber]

I want Tinker

With a tank spec

[obtuse dawn]

I just cant see how they'll tie it to the void

unless it's maybe underground expansion

[balmy current]

for years my wish for Blizzcon has been them announcing the comeback of Gilneas 😄 🐺 🧛

maybe this is the year D:

[sturdy field]

first thing that came to mind is "France Extermination"

hm

[versed timber]

[sturdy field]

im so sorry

[shy mesa]

You do realize that they got hit by a hurricane recently, right?

(Mostly the West side)

[sturdy field]

havent followed news lately sonope

[shy mesa]

Hurricane Ciaran.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/weather/storm-ciaran-france-uk-electricity-northwestern-europe-climate-gbr-intl/index.html

[obtuse dawn]

It’s starting to drop

Blizzcon photos Inc

[versed timber]

And Domingos is coming tomorrow to sprinkle a bit of love over Ciaran

[obtuse dawn]

Background looks very purple 😉

[shy mesa]

[solid needle]

Anything good yet

[obtuse dawn]

Above

||I think its going to be a void expansion based on the colors of the background||

Closer photo

[shy mesa]

I'm guessing the sword will act as a gateway to the void worlds.

[obtuse dawn]

I had the realization that dropped at the end of Legion

Damn time flies

[versed timber]

Thyme flies, indeed

[brisk flower]

So will the livestream for blizzcon start in a half an hour or did it already start (on YouTube)

[shy mesa]

But does he?

I mean, if you put him in a plane, he will.

[sturdy field]

starts in 20 minutes (youtube or twitch)

[shy mesa]

I'll just ask for the deets after everything is done. XD

[obtuse dawn]

I didn’t realize all the stage presentations were free live stream this year

Thought they usually did a stream pass where you had to pay to see them all

[sturdy field]

Yeah will be nice (hopefully...)

[obtuse dawn]

Wonder the reason

[sturdy field]

who's ready for F2P and P2W wow?

[obtuse dawn]

Always suspicious when blizzard gives free shit away

[obtuse dawn]

Forgot gamepass wow

2 minutes

here we gooo

[brisk flower]

Yesss

Can’t wait

[obtuse dawn]

It's time.

[brisk flower]

Gotta love the random person who yelled StarCraft 🤣

[obtuse dawn]

I love you all

This talk makes me feel so glad to have you all as friends

Pulling at my heart strings

Blizzard knows they haven’t done everything perfectly

[brisk flower]

Wow, blizzard is joining Xbox

[obtuse dawn]

😂😂😂

The leather jacket is wonderful

[versed timber]

Why is Phil Spencer wider each Thyme he appears on a gaming related event stage ?

[obtuse dawn]

Camera lens

Adds 30 lbs

Oh shit StarCraft Reforged announcement Inc

@solid needle gonna be excited for StarCraft 2 to get remade

[sturdy field]

come on Phil announce wow sub on game pass

[obtuse dawn]

Right?!

Ah they’re accountable to this new future

Got it got it

Old past, not so much

[solid needle]

SC2 remastered confirmed?

[obtuse dawn]

Oh shit he’s crying on stage

[solid needle]

I need you to be my eyes and ears Kaed

[obtuse dawn]

President of blizzard is crying on stage

Talking about the blizzard team

[sturdy field]

he's trying to become yoshi-p

[solid needle]

That doesn’t want him

[sturdy field]

Mike-p?

[obtuse dawn]

“Thank you for everything you do”

Aaaaw

[solid needle]

Fired-P

[obtuse dawn]

Blizzard is better now

[obtuse dawn]

They’re accountable to the future and they know they haven’t done everything perfect

[obtuse dawn]

Looks… fun.

I’ll keep you updated

HERE COMES HEARTFUL CINEMATIC WHILE THEY SHOW PEOPLES FACES AT CON

No one gives a shit about overwatch

Why

Get this man off the stage

[obtuse dawn]

Overwatch 2 next year is getting Disney’s Maui with Gatling guns

https://tenor.com/view/tired-bored-simon-pegg-sleepy-not-interested-gif-15469989

[solid needle]

So nothing good yet

[obtuse dawn]

Oh shit we can play Maui THIS WEEKEND

LETS GO

No one still cares.

[obtuse dawn]

No. Legit nothing we care about here

[sturdy field]

Looks like it's Diablo intro next

[solid needle]

So still nothing good

Thanks oxez

[obtuse dawn]

Hahaha

[sturdy field]

haters

[obtuse dawn]

WoW gonna be dead last

[solid needle]

Wow already dead

Dummy

[obtuse dawn]

They really pushing these cringy af streamer clips aren't they

LETS SHOW YOU HOW FUNNY THESE STREAMERS ARE

[sturdy field]

please boo diablo immortal

aw damn they didnt

[obtuse dawn]

they said it!

60% of Diablo Immortal players have never played Diablo before?

My god.

[sturdy field]

On it's own that is pretty cool

[obtuse dawn]

"We have figured out how to do math"

Where’s the dude who asked “don’t you have cell phones?”

I want him to announce stuff for D4

[sturdy field]

he probably ended up spending his entire savings in immortal and now broke

[obtuse dawn]

Hahaha sad

Oh shit, the harder the fight the better the loot? Nooo wayyyy

[shy mesa]

" wow sub on game pass"

Happy now?

[obtuse dawn]

Oh shit d4 cinematic

[sturdy field]

damn already

[obtuse dawn]

Vessel of Hatred perf for @solid needle

[shy mesa]

You just described him perfectly.

XD

[obtuse dawn]

😂😂😂

[sturdy field]

why not mention the new class, ahh

[obtuse dawn]

She did

Damn

[sturdy field]

said there was a new class, but not what it is

[obtuse dawn]

Welp not Paladin that people thought

[sturdy field]

Alright now the real stuff

[obtuse dawn]

HERE IT IS

Please say a Sylvannis centric expansion

Please

[sturdy field]

he has a jacket, definitely a tshirt with new expansion underneath right

[obtuse dawn]

No.

Hearthstone no bueno

Here comes the cinematic

Nvm

Everyone was super quiet for hearthstone 😂😂

[obtuse dawn]

Okay here we go

Holly gonna give us the scoop

Cataclysm Classic

Oooof

[sturdy field]

lmfao, rip classic

[obtuse dawn]

😬😬😬

Wondering if new retail expansion is going to do a revamp

To coincide with this

I do miss that feeling in Cataclysm where all things were fucked

Oh shit

They’re copying that other private server

[sturdy field]

this looks fun

[obtuse dawn]

Ascension

Yeah I agree I’d play it

Mixing abilities in classic would give it a great twist

“Shout out to our elves. It’s finally our time”…. When did elves not get their time in every expansion?

Oh shit why do I feel a gamepass announcement

[brisk flower]

I’m waiting till 1:30 for the wow stuff

Unless they actually announced the retail expansion already

[obtuse dawn]

Chris is about to

[brisk flower]

Shit

[obtuse dawn]

Currently on stage

[brisk flower]

I’m m on YouTube right now

[obtuse dawn]

Revamp Inc

Blizzard copying Marvel phases huh

[sturdy field]

XIV just did that too

ARR->EW was the Hydaelyn/Zodiark saga

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah

Huuuuuh

[brisk flower]

Interesting expansion idea

[obtuse dawn]

TWW

Underground expansion

[brisk flower]

So it sounds like it’s a few years down the line so I’m fine with that

[obtuse dawn]

Same

It did great for XIV

[brisk flower]

Also it’s nice to hear they’re having little hints of other expansions

[obtuse dawn]

Midnight sounds good

[brisk flower]

Since they do work on other expansions in advance

[obtuse dawn]

Void

Yep

[brisk flower]

Ion hazzikostas said that

They just pop em out

[obtuse dawn]

Plus it helps with feature planning too

[brisk flower]

Yep

[obtuse dawn]

Oh shit loved Northrend

[brisk flower]

Omg the last titan

[obtuse dawn]

Finally a concentrated story

They took a page from XIV

[brisk flower]

I can imagine the raids for all 3 of them

That’s going to be fun

My question is I hope they keep the player base busy in the meantime in dragonflight and not have it be a content drought like cataclysm

[solid needle]

TLDR me

[sturdy field]

damn that wotlk trailer reference

wiht the sword

[obtuse dawn]

Holy shit

hydaelyn copy or what

😂😂😂

[brisk flower]

The cinematic tho

[sturdy field]

idk if you noticed the timing of "My son" and him pulling the sword, the same as in wotlk

[obtuse dawn]

Fucking exact same shit as XIV

Let’s go features

[brisk flower]

Thank you

Wow it’s coming in 2024 I thought he was implying 2 years 🤣

[obtuse dawn]

3 expansion arc, first one is underground where we meet with spider folk. Second expansion is void, third is titans.

New zones

[brisk flower]

No wonder she looks familiar

[solid needle]

Still nothing exciting

[obtuse dawn]

new allied race

Dynamic flying

No new class

No new specs?

[sturdy field]

solo end-game content?

[brisk flower]

Just a new race

[sturdy field]

sign me up

[brisk flower]

From what I noticed

[sturdy field]

account wide rep oh man

[brisk flower]

Omg

That’s amazing

[obtuse dawn]

Hero talents

[brisk flower]

Saves from the alt hopping for reputation farming

[obtuse dawn]

Oooo

[brisk flower]

Holy crap

[obtuse dawn]

No tinker sad

Eh my first reaction is

[solid needle]

Kinda boring tbh

Expected more

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah

[solid needle]

Shit game, will save me $60

[obtuse dawn]

Very meh

[brisk flower]

They should’ve added the account wide rep expansions before this tbh

[sturdy field]

screenshotted and backuped

[obtuse dawn]

Yep

[brisk flower]

But the game expansions look nice

[obtuse dawn]

I woulda been thrilled for a gamepass announcement tbh

Welp, I’ll reserve full judgement until panel is done

[brisk flower]

True true

[obtuse dawn]

60/100 based on that opening

Nothing where I was like WOW

[brisk flower]

So is there still going to be another wow panel today

[obtuse dawn]

DF had flying which looked cool

[brisk flower]

At 1:30

Or am I done

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/world-of-warcraft-the-war-within-earthen-allied-race-preview-335862

[sturdy field]

and ofc they are showing druid talents first, we'll be getting a shit tree at 11.0 launch again

[obtuse dawn]

I love that

[brisk flower]

I’ll check back tomorrow.

[sturdy field]

Yep

[obtuse dawn]

Sooo hero talents is just a third node of talents?

Im actually more excited about the new Vanilla mode

[brisk flower]

The hero talents seemed really more cosmetic to me unless I’m missing something

[obtuse dawn]

Are they adding in current abilities into vanilla? Isn't between the eyes an outlaw ability?

And quick draw

https://thewarwithin.blizzard.com/en-us/

Beta Access to World of Warcraft: The War Within⁴

Have they always given early and beta access to top tier preorder?

Judging by this, I stick to my 60/100 hype

3 days Early Access if you get top tier.......

Ew.

[brisk flower]

Wait a minute beta access already?

[obtuse dawn]

Fuck that.

If you get the $90 edition you get beta access and 3 day head start

No fucking way.

[brisk flower]

Oh wow

[obtuse dawn]

@solid needle is gonna get a good laugh outta that

looks like they just split the recent spec trees in half and called it a day.

[sturdy field]

The beta thing is neat, but the early access is bullshit

[obtuse dawn]

Another page taken from XIV haha

It really is bullshit though

[sturdy field]

yeah but no one cares about end-game in xiv, this puts you behind if you want to level alts for splits or w/e

"In World of Warcraft: The War Within, Blizzard announced that players will be able to learn transmog of any gear type, even if you cannot equip it!"

ok, this is cool

[obtuse dawn]

Weird they didnt list that as a feature

like in the video

People been asking for that for years

Oooo forums already in full hate mode for the 3 day head start

"Guess who's gonna go in 3 days early on warmode and have a relaxed time."

[brisk flower]

People been asking for the account wide rep stuff for a while, I just don’t know why they didn’t add that sooner

It’s a simple thing

[obtuse dawn]

They can make it into an expansion feature in an expansion announcement with not a ton of features

[shy mesa]

Because it would break immersion or some shit.

[obtuse dawn]

This is the first expansion announcement I went "meh" over

[shy mesa]

Since your character is not supposed to have any relationship to your other characters.

y'know.

[sturdy field]

Same. More hyped for Season of Discovery and D4 stuff so far

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah Im watching some streamers on SoD, looks fun!

Plus its a great sandbox for Blizzard to see how talent builds play out

Tier sets look rad

[somber pumice]

Come Midnight, let's disperse this petty rabble !

[obtuse dawn]

Woulda loved a playable evolved Nerubian 😦

Not another dwarf

[somber pumice]

Wait what they announced solo end game content ? I missed that part apparently 😮

[obtuse dawn]

Delves

The zone art design looks rad

[somber pumice]

Wait for the three 60% buffs in a row for us to still be worst tank when Worldsoul releases

[obtuse dawn]

Once again, art team carrying WoW

I hope the druid talent preview is just using in game placeholders because if it's just them taking talents out of each tree and putting them together...

[somber pumice]

Played some Ascension and in the end everyone ended up playing the most optimal build so diversity was pretty meh, giving everyone a ton of abilities to choose from is great but I can't see how they'll balance that out

[sturdy field]

did they mention a new level cap

[obtuse dawn]

It also looks like Towelliee's leak was true too

god damn the art team is carrying this

[obtuse dawn]

tthey talking about them now

[sturdy field]

oh damn you can get stuff from vault from outdoor content

from the delves

[obtuse dawn]

Finally.

[brisk flower]

What’s the level cap going to be

I don’t have the video on atm

[obtuse dawn]

Yeeeep

I honestly dont think hero talents and dynamic flying are going to carry the expansion hype like they did in DF

But my prediction of DF 2.0 I feel was correct 😄

[somber pumice]

Having challenging non-dungeon / non-raid content would be great

[shy mesa]

Speaking of which.

[obtuse dawn]

Very meh announcement

[shy mesa]

I stopped after Zaralek Caverns, is now a good time for me to come back or naw

[obtuse dawn]

I was expected more and got... luke warm

[somber pumice]

Doing N'Zoth visions in BFA with a friend was an amazing experience, and cleaning everything was far from easy

[shy mesa]

Feel like I missed some parts.

[somber pumice]

If you're a druid, yeah

Tons of new skins :3

[shy mesa]

oho.

Might eventually.

will have to make gold though...

bleh.

[obtuse dawn]

3 day head start is scummy af which not surprised with Blizzard

XIV looking better and better!

[somber pumice]

Won't pay, don't care if ppl do, 3 days is not enough to get a significant advantage especially since content will probably be time gated in the first days after the expansion gets released

[obtuse dawn]

3 days is a ton.

And to lock it behind a $90 paywall

Oooof

Scummy

[somber pumice]

For World First competing guilds maybe, for your average Joe player I don't think so

[obtuse dawn]

Not even that, that's a lot of time to lose

They've never done that before, XIV does it but as oxez pointed out, XIV doesnt have an endgame scene

[somber pumice]

Reminds me of these Smash Bros meme videos "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing"

Feels very much the same here, "FF14 wins by doing absolutely nothing"

[obtuse dawn]

Nah, their expansion just looks better

This expansion is very meh

and that's putting it lightly

[sturdy field]

XIV had a 4-day headstart for pre-ordering in endwalker did it not

[obtuse dawn]

Plus it looks like WoW is just copying XIV with it's story, they did this storyline arc years ago with Hydaelyn

[somber pumice]

For me it has challenging content outside M+ and raids and nerubians, I'm a happy druid :3

[obtuse dawn]

I thought it was 3 but yeah, coulda been 4

But there's no m0 tour

[sturdy field]

Yeah it's around my bday so I had the day off lol

[obtuse dawn]

or raiding

[sturdy field]

Yeah it's a bit different. Wow does it for money, FF does it because their servers are from the 90s

[obtuse dawn]

Yep

[somber pumice]

You could argue WoW had already done kinda the same with MoP into WoD into Legions ino BFA

[spare dew]

i mean meh, if u remember DF launch im sure this does help their servers

but also im sure thats not the main goal, as its not for ff everyone greedy out here

[sturdy field]

have you played endwalker at launch? With 6 hours login queues lol

[obtuse dawn]

It was rooough

[brisk flower]

Anyone on the beta rn

[somber pumice]

I mean, I'm not a die hard fan of WoW either, I'll probably play on and off as I already do

[sturdy field]

They are so ancient they had to pick up a dev server to help with queues (like.. a physical machine...)

[obtuse dawn]

Please don't tell me that cinematic didn't scream "wow, that voice calling out sounds exactly like Hydaelyn"

Like it was exact.

[somber pumice]

Being able to solo ag in Rated Battlegrounds is neat though, might get me interested in PvP again

[spare dew]

yea i mean i heard they had to literally disable new players from joining cuz they were so overloaded, but still putting out EA for more money obv is a monetary incentive for them

[obtuse dawn]

I think the stats weigh that most play 4 months into an expansion and quit

It's why it going on gamepass would be nice

[sturdy field]

Yeah agree. I just like to dunk on their backend infra lol

[spare dew]

it deserves to be for sure

game feels like its from early 00s in many ways

[brisk flower]

I just don’t know how they’re going to take wow on the Xbox perspective

[obtuse dawn]

I do like that Blizzard is going to concentrate on a 3 expansion storyline with systems that build on each other rather than taking away

[shy mesa]

It should be interesting.

[brisk flower]

They didn’t delve into a lot about that which is nice to be surprised

[obtuse dawn]

Probably will skip War Within and jump back on when it hits "Midnight" when I think they'll rework

[somber pumice]

delve

I see what you did there

[brisk flower]

Haha

[somber pumice]

No kidding though, Season of Discovery might get me into doing what I always wanted to do

Tanking as Moonkin

Did it in Classic in Sunken Temple once, aggro generation was awesome, damage intake was high though outside of Barkskin

[obtuse dawn]

Back to Alan Wake 2 and XIV, @solid needle I'm looking forward to your opinion on the meh announcement

[somber pumice]

What do you do in XIV Kaed ?

[obtuse dawn]

It’s endless due to their job system

Like, I never don’t have anything to do in game

[somber pumice]

So basically you're leveling alts if I understand it correctly ?

[obtuse dawn]

Nope

Crafting I make Gil

Jump over to other servers, play their market

Work on transmog

Beast tribes

[somber pumice]

Ah yeah I love the crafting system in FF14

[obtuse dawn]

Hunt trains

[somber pumice]

WoW definitely could learn a lesson there

[obtuse dawn]

I go do palace of the dead for transmog items

Like, I don’t think I have an equivalent to running around Oribus in a circle

Community is currently getting ready for the Christmas events, guilds are making cookies and asking for gil for Christmas gifts this year

[obtuse dawn]

Wadda doin in WoW these days?

[somber pumice]

Not playing WoW these days :p

[obtuse dawn]

Ah

[somber pumice]

I'll play when 10.2 releases, do a little m+, raids and PvP and try to get all the new skins

Also I need to finish farming legendary skins

[obtuse dawn]

Sounds real fun

[somber pumice]

Yup, I like doing that :3

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-delves-system-in-the-war-within-new-outdoor-row-for-the-great-vault-335882#comments

Sounds neat

[zealous cradle]

If it's fun and challenging for real that's pretty awesome. Something to do between raids and when the boys are on for keys

[candid edge]

MEANINGFUL CONTENT THAT DOESNT NEED 4 OR 19 PEOPLE OR ELSE U CANT PLAY THE GAME IS BIS

[obtuse dawn]

We said the same thing about Torghast

[obtuse dawn]

Your caps broke boo boo

But yeah I agree

solo content is the way to go

[candid edge]

I am excited

Again

[obtuse dawn]

XIV is embracing it

[candid edge]

Surely this is not gonna go the way of torghast

[obtuse dawn]

Nooo.... not at all hahaha

[somber pumice]

Haha yeah my thoughts exactly when I first read that

[obtuse dawn]

The difference now though is it's not tied to a power

So hopefully it wont be like island expeditions or torghast

[zealous cradle]

They said a source of endgame loot, so if it's got a lockout and actually provides big ilvl we'll see if it feels like torghast or islands.

Gear is so free probably not though

[candid edge]

It’s gonna have it’s own row

In vault

So have to assume there will be some meat to it

[zealous cradle]

Yeah so it might feel mandatory then

[obtuse dawn]

Huh yeah that’s a solid point

OR

Built for casuals

[somber pumice]

If it feels like Visions of Nzoth without the once per week restriction I'll be the happiest wow player in the world

[zealous cradle]

But that's not really a bad thing, torghast felt worse because you had to do it or you lost out on power forever

[obtuse dawn]

Who don’t wanna raid or do toxic m+

[zealous cradle]

Gear is free.

[somber pumice]

There's tons of ways to not have toxic assholes with you in m+

[obtuse dawn]

I have toxic assholes every run

[zealous cradle]

Big one is join a guild and don't pug

[obtuse dawn]

Maybe the problem isn’t them….

I kid

[somber pumice]

Join communities Kaed

[obtuse dawn]

I’m kidding, yeah I was in that positive m+ one

[candid edge]

I just wanna do solo shit and vibe and have cool shit to do

Idk

[obtuse dawn]

Fucking play Alan wake 2

[candid edge]

That is not vibe u dingus

That is shit myself scared

[obtuse dawn]

It’s noooot

LOOK

https://youtu.be/mV4YYLZiMC0?si=gQzPD4yfcvBAx57l

How tf is that scary?

[somber pumice]

Play some Amnesia

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah that shit is tense

Alan Wake 2 doesn’t have cheap scares

It’s more mind hunter scares

The game has a full on musical number

[sturdy field]

speaking of XIV and bad servers, I have this stupid weird ass bug atm. Every time I open my steam deck, I get disconnected from FFXIV (on PC)

what the fuck lmao

[obtuse dawn]

Wait do you open XIV on the steam deck?

or totally unrelated?

[sturdy field]

I'm not playing any game on the deck atm

I just open it to the steam ui, and XIV disconnects 30 seconds later

druids getting an interrupt in classic, damn

[somber pumice]

wu

season of discovery you mean ?

[sturdy field]

one of the runes in classic season

yea

this is it, official shaman tanks

[shy mesa]

about time.

Or wait, the proper answer to this would be.

"I'm hard."

(Especially since it's on the pants, lol)

[white carbon]

[obtuse dawn]

Artwork does look amazing

[waxen pagoda]

[clever temple]

[obtuse dawn]

Reaallly hoping we get more info today. Seems like we're getting sold three shorter expansions without as many patches/features for $55 each + sub cost.

[opal drum]

Anyone know if the new pre-purchase expansion mount has access flying right away?

[strange wind]

It does, but only Dragonriding - you currently can't use it in old world zones where normal/old flying is allowed

[opal drum]

Ah makes sense

[obtuse dawn]

They did say in the Q&A 100 different "old" mounts have been reworked for the new dynamic flying system in TWW. Rumor's seem to indicate that Midnight may be the zone rework so they'll probably have the entire system online by then

"Yes, also over 100 pre-dragonriding flying mounts will be working. Want it to work on as many mounts as possible (like Mimiron's head!)"

I thought this was really cool for Blizzard to do btw, doesn't seem like they're advertising it. https://warcraftrumble.blizzard.com/en-us/collection

Free .stl files if you want to print out your own figurines

[versed timber]

Butters !

[tulip coral]

the loafy sass in her eyes

🧈

[obtuse dawn]

Looks like delves will be a pillar endgame going forward

That's nice

It'll be comparable to other pillars

Not a checklist item

PvP row being removed. More conquest will be given so you can buy whatever you want

[sturdy field]

This is the cool version of Ion

laughing at his previous decisions lol

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah I agree

muuuuch more laid back

[sturdy field]

"elegant design, right?"

[obtuse dawn]

already this has changed my mind on the expansion

if they stick to what their saying

[sturdy field]

Warband is a big deal

[obtuse dawn]

Yeees

crafting

Huge.

Warbounded items is huge too

Dang.

[sturdy field]

yup

[obtuse dawn]

That's a great feature

[sturdy field]

And now we can look at Dawntrail's new features:

I think this is the end of new features for dawntrail?

[obtuse dawn]

Did they do an in-depth yet?

I thought it was just broad

Live letter I didnt think was done

flight paths is great.

[sturdy field]

Don't think so no, but there wasn't any new feature for endwalker either was it

[obtuse dawn]

I'd have to look, but first thing that came to mind was housing and islands

[sturdy field]

They redid the lottery system yeah, but that came way later after launch, same for island

[obtuse dawn]

small scale pvp

[sturdy field]

They already had Rival things I think, but yeah I guess Crystal Conflict

[obtuse dawn]

Just a couple

[sturdy field]

Ok this screen makes me think of BG3 lol

[obtuse dawn]

Same

I love it though

Very very much

[sturdy field]

Omg he saw the reddit post about the evoker wearing leather

lmao

[obtuse dawn]

Wasn't there another MMO that does this?

[sturdy field]

No idea, I only played wow and xiv

[obtuse dawn]

Thats a great change on the realm stuff too

Just a big list

[sturdy field]

The biggest thing would be to be able to switch characters without logging

Queue for something, play an alt while waiting in queue

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah

[sturdy field]

accept queue, switches you to the previous character

[obtuse dawn]

Maybe next expansion

Hunter Tinker spec, lets go

[sturdy field]

Probably difficult tech wise but it would really be awesome

[obtuse dawn]

I feel like their looking at their fuck ups more in this blizzcon

and admitting the faults with it

[sturdy field]

They try lots of things, fail a lot too. I think the ripcord thing with covenants woke some people up lol

[obtuse dawn]

Ion before usually just would be his usual "Im not wrong" self

I REALLY hope these are place holder graphics

Poor druids

Did he say Kepper of the grove was open to guardian?

*keeper

nvm, keeper of the grove is for balance and resto

Elune Chosen is guardian and balance

LUNAR BEAM HYPE

Hopefully flying is toggle'able from dynamic to old?

[sturdy field]

Probably?

[obtuse dawn]

His "this is how flying will be going forward"

made me wonder

Nice spellbook change

Cross-realm guilds gonna be huge too

Going to make things more competitive

Dungeon finder cross faction would be nice

Welp, I feel a bit better about the expansion

70/100 for hype

[sturdy field]

Yeah I'm worrying about that one, I joined a mostly Horde guid, this might make week 1 random dungeons quite weird. I guess we can just queue specific

[obtuse dawn]

It's weird why they haven't done it yet

Must be a system issue

[sturdy field]

Stuff like Siege of Boralus

Interesting I was talking about that dungeon with some people from my new guild, some were not aware the dungeon was different between factions (and much, much easier on horde..)

[candid edge]

I AM POGGING OUT

WOW IS SAVED

[obtuse dawn]

The only thing that bums me out is that I wish they woulda started this 3 part expansion story earlier

Legion needed it.

Badly.

I can't imagine how much better that story would have been had it been broken up like this

[candid edge]

I still think Azshara and nzoth being one patch affairs were criminal

[obtuse dawn]

Yep

So much of the lore could have been fixed by this new way of doing it

But we can't go back and relive those stories now

Which... sucks. It's like yeah, love that they're doing that now at the tail end of WoW 1.0's lifespan

It'll also be weird to see dwarves on horde side

[analog sedge]

Faction doesn't really matter anymore tbh

[obtuse dawn]

I mean just visually, maybe one day they'll open up the rest

undead in lore already are neutral so it fits

[candid edge]

Why can’t I be undead but an alliance sympathizer

[analog sedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse dawn]

Wasn't there like an entire book on this idea?

Something about the alliance embracing their undead family members

Sylvannis bullshit

she goes nuts

[candid edge]

Idk I don’t read the books but the premise isn’t far fetched. Someone still attached to his family who are still alive

[obtuse dawn]

"Calia serves as one of the central figures in the novel Before the Storm, helping to broker a meeting between the Forsaken who yearn to reunite with their living loved ones and humans who are open to the idea. Together with Alonsus she manages to set up the meeting in Arathi Highlands with the blessing of both Anduin Wrynn and Sylvanas Windrunner."

Sylvanas once again goes batshit crazy and kills everyone.. Calia gets resurrected as a lightforged undead which.. Blizzard utterly ignored.

Came THIS close to getting Undead Paladins

[shy mesa]

😮‍💨

I got frauded today.

or conned.

however you wanna spin it.

[obtuse dawn]

What happen boo

[shy mesa]

guy on steam tells me i was wrongly reported for scam/fraud, tells me to talk with some guy on disc

the guy on disc tells me he needs my email adress... sends an email change request to Steam... I clicked it like an idiot ._.

they changed my password...

then held my account hostage, saying they needed to run surveillance programs to see if i was innocent.

after that, asked me to buy steam gift cards...

Thankfully, my credit card was blocked after the first 2.

so I got refunded.

[obtuse dawn]

Wow.,

Thats intense

Sorry brother

[shy mesa]

But I still lost 200 USD.

Had to cancel my credit card, will have to change my email and some other infos.

What a pain.

[sturdy field]

why would you even reply to a random guy on steam x.x phil.. no!

sorry that sucks

[urban mountain]

Phil no....

[wheat wren]

Phillipe no…

Never give your password to anyone man..

Real customer support knows it already they won’t ask for it

I’m sorry bro..

[rough pewter]

Did you guys know jagex blocks your password if you type it look ********

Ok nvm discord formatting

[wheat wren]

Guiltyasyaoifanfic27

Uhm

[rough pewter]

[sturdy field]

See when I type hunter2 you see it as ******* if it's your password

[obtuse dawn]

Can't you fight this with your bank?

or whatever credit card company you have

They'll most likely need proof, just screenshot everything

[obtuse dawn]

haha that's such a mean troll

someone is gonna post their password

[sturdy field]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230315000614/http://www.bash.org/?244321

for some reason bash.org seems down (hope its not gone forever..)

[obtuse dawn]

That's some wizard hat old

<AzureDiamond> thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that

Most kids be like "What's IRC?"

[shy mesa]

I asked them, they said no. I was responsible.

[obtuse dawn]

Speak to supervisor

Go American

[sturdy field]

I still use IRC

[shy mesa]

Xcept we're in Canada here.

That's not gonna fly.

[obtuse dawn]

Logic still works I'd imagine

[sturdy field]

Would assume even in canada they usually revert fraudulent transactions

Someone got your online account and bought shit, that's fraud

[shy mesa]

Nah.

I'm the one who did it, thinking it would revert my Steam account.

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.canada.ca/en/financial-consumer-agency/services/resolving-unauthorized-transaction.html

[sturdy field]

My brother's credit card was stolen when he was dumb enough to buy wow gold in like 2010

they refunded him

[shy mesa]

So technically, I'm the one responsible.

[obtuse dawn]

"Generally, any banking or credit card transaction that you didn't make or approve is an unauthorized transaction."

[shy mesa]

since I authorized it.

But that's the thing Kaed.

I did authorize it. =.=

[obtuse dawn]

Under fraudulent conditions

[shy mesa]

I went on the websites.

Made the order.

Paid the command.

._.

[obtuse dawn]

I'd still talk to supervisor

Fuck that

[sturdy field]

"paid the command" is the most word-for-word translation I ever saw online :P

[shy mesa]

=/

[obtuse dawn]

Threaten to end service with them

[shy mesa]

That won't end well for me. =/

I do kinda need them.

[obtuse dawn]

It's an empty threat, they dont know

[shy mesa]

They probably do. =.=

[obtuse dawn]

I'd call every day

[shy mesa]

=/

[obtuse dawn]

Make a doc of who you talk to

at what time

call again and again

[shy mesa]

In the meantime, I changed some info on Disc.

password, email, etc.

[obtuse dawn]

I have United Airlines tell me my $500 car rental I had to do when my flight got cancelled wasn't going to be paid for due to "weather"

[shy mesa]

Will have to change my email as well.

[obtuse dawn]

I called every day to get that changed

They're banking on you not making a fuss

[shy mesa]

I think we have laws against harassment here in Canada.

I think

[obtuse dawn]

It's not harassment

[shy mesa]

But lack of nutrition to the brain isn't helping.

had no lunch.

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah go eat

[shy mesa]

Wasted my day with this shit.

Nah, gonna wait for dinner. =.=

[obtuse dawn]

I'd fight it man, fuck that.

[candid edge]

All things considered this is a cheap but important lesson. Being not careful with that stuff can be way more punishing

[shy mesa]

Yeah, I can still appeal to Steam.

I already sent them a ticket.

To make things worse, my throat started getting sore yesterday. =.=

But yeah, it's a lesson I won't soon forget.

[obtuse dawn]

Whats the credit card company called that you use?

[shy mesa]

Hopefully onlookers here can take heed as well.

Kaed.

[obtuse dawn]

Im gonna research this shit

Haha

[shy mesa]

<

[obtuse dawn]

No one fucks with Phil

[shy mesa]

It was some guy from the Philippines.

[obtuse dawn]

Is it BILT?

[shy mesa]

Based on the email adress reset email I got.

[obtuse dawn]

Is that the credit card?

[shy mesa]

no.

stahp.

I'm not giving out any more info. D:

[obtuse dawn]

I dont recognize that credit card company

[shy mesa]

=.=

For a good reason.

I really should've listened to my gut feelings telling me this guy was sus.

But he was too convincing I guess. =.=

the only silver lining is that my losses were limited to that, for the time being.....

[candid edge]

Anything asking u to talk on discord for this type of stuff sus meters thru the roof

[shy mesa]

Yeah. =.=

[candid edge]

Also just any unsolicited messages on steam you don’t recognize. Same with phones calls and texts

[shy mesa]

I'll keep the convo for proof.

[shy mesa]

well, the guy had sent me a friend's request recently.

I didn't question it.

(the first guy, not the fake Steam community moderator)

😮‍💨

well, lesson learned.

I'll revive tomorrow.

Thankfully, Scorpios are like phoenixes, they always self-rez.

[obtuse dawn]

I just automatically distrust anyone on the internet

[shy mesa]

even @solid needle

?

[obtuse dawn]

@sturdy field sent me his XIV account name and I said fuck that, probably trying to scam me.

Keeps trying to run dungeons with me

Fucking hacker

[shy mesa]

I should've heeded the wise words of the Forsaken.

[obtuse dawn]

I would fully expect @solid needle to fuck with me. That's a solid friendship.

[shy mesa]

"Trust no one."

[obtuse dawn]

Esp oxez.

[shy mesa]

"Beware the living."

etc. etc.

[obtuse dawn]

esp oxez

[shy mesa]

does that mean dead oxez is fine?

🤔

[sturdy field]

How would you distrust me?

[shy mesa]

well, you got a scythe.

Secondly, I hope you're a girl irl and not a G.I.R.L.

[sturdy field]

What

I'm not a cat lady irl

[obtuse dawn]

A great portion of men play women characters on MMO's

[shy mesa]

Yes, I know.

[obtuse dawn]

No

[shy mesa]

It always weirded me out a bit.

[obtuse dawn]

Why? Clothing in MMO's look better on women usually

[shy mesa]

but hey, it makes the erotic doujins where they get reincarnated into their female characters much more amusing!

[obtuse dawn]

XIV is no exception haha

[shy mesa]

😄

[solid needle]

Kaed trusts me

He knows what he is gonna get

[obtuse dawn]

Bingo.

[shy mesa]

Shit?

[solid needle]

We are both of the same breed

[obtuse dawn]

Plus we're service members and playfully fucking over the other person is part of being in the military

[shy mesa]

No, no. I can't write that, that would be too mean.

_>

If that's your idea of camaraderie, Kaed.

[obtuse dawn]

We'd lock the new kids in the camel spider room when they were new to command in Iraq

Pile up water bottle containers outside the door so they couldnt get out

🙂

[obtuse dawn]

Welcome to the US military, you learn to get used to it.

Do we have any audiophiles in this discord?

I have a question about speakers

[shy mesa]

Sadly, I'm half-deaf.

So I can only hear in Mono.

[solid needle]

Ask away

[obtuse dawn]

Grabbed a pair of discounted Kanto YU6's

Using them as PC speakers, have them on 6 inch stands

They aren't completely level with the ear though with these stands

So I printed up these https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4698476

To put on the stands to put the speakers on

Does tilting the speakers while on stands degrade the audio quality or should I just keep them flat on the stands?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BudgetAudiophile/comments/tqhoco/should_i_tilt_my_speakers/

"Ideally position the speakers with tweeters (if present) approximately at ear level and toe-in so they face you (an equilateral triangle of distance between speakers and to your ears is generally the target). If this is not practical I would also recommend tilting them to face you and then adjust to taste, in general if a speaker is straight-on it will sound brighter/more crisp, more off-axis and it will be warmer."

[solid needle]

I didn’t say I had an answer

I just said ask away

[obtuse dawn]

I fucking knew you were gonna say that

[solid needle]

Dumbass

[obtuse dawn]

thats on me you right

[solid needle]

Only person I might think would know is @timid walrus

[timid walrus]

[obtuse dawn]

They were ready

Fuck it Im doin it anyways

[timid walrus]

BAER is an audiophile

What you want to know?

[obtuse dawn]

tilt on stand fine for quality?

Using a pair of Kanto YU6's

[timid walrus]

Tilt is fine, but make sure you aim from the tweeter point of view

[obtuse dawn]

to ears right?

So right speaker to right ear?

[timid walrus]

So don't aim the big speaker to where your ears are, but aim the tweeters to where your ears are

[obtuse dawn]

lef to left

[timid walrus]

Yup

[obtuse dawn]

Okay!

Thanks boo

[timid walrus]

Don't forget, stands do two things. Aim the speakers, and secondly add vibration damping to whatever you place them on

[obtuse dawn]

Got it.

[timid walrus]

So if your stand doesn't have rubber/foam, theyre crap

[obtuse dawn]

They do!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL6DTDR?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

Both foam on bottom and also on top of top plate

Using Sub-8 for bass

[timid walrus]

Nice, one downside of those types of stands is, you can't use the space underneath them

[obtuse dawn]

wadda mean?

[timid walrus]

BAER uses these types of stands

Woops bad picture

[obtuse dawn]

Oooh

Yeah I getcha now

[timid walrus]

So BAER can still use the space underneath

[obtuse dawn]

I have plenty of desk space, I actually hate seeing wires currently

[timid walrus]

So does BAER, hence that's BAER's charge everything station

[timid walrus]

BAER don't like your speakers lack balanced input. Must be pretty new brand. BAER not heard of those before

[obtuse dawn]

I primarly use it for editing/gaming

so not like I'm suuuppppeeer audiophile here haha

[timid walrus]

BAER's setup,... Old picture

BAER moved the switch and most of the cables away now

[obtuse dawn]

That makes my wirephobia go berserk haha

[sturdy field]

I've been going wireless on most things

mouse/headset/speakers. Even bought a wireless transmitter/receiver set for guitar

[obtuse dawn]

Are wireless mechanical keyboards any good these days?

[timid walrus]

If you're going for editing, why didn't you get the yamaha hs5?

[timid walrus]

In BAER's opinion, wireless always hassle

[obtuse dawn]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

[obtuse dawn]

I also game and wanted bass 😄

Plus at that point I had the YU2's and Sub8, so I was like eeeh

[obtuse dawn]

Wires didn't use to bother me when I was younger, not sure why as I've gotten older they annoy the fuuuck outta me