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there is no way u just said a tank spec in pvp is harder than dps specs
its a double healer strat so i mean
i refuse
But I agree, delete demon hunters
demon hunter is only my list for boosts rn
im looking at aff lock, mw , rdruid, 5th feral maybe
is enhance fun?
enh when i made me looked like too much downtime of doing nothing
i wanted to bne good at ww but i legit dont know how to do dam
like ik shred and shit does no dmg
but i like pressing something
ww is def 2nd most fun for me
a lot mroe satsyinfg
Hope evoker is fun
maybe i just need some coaching or something, im so bad at monk and its annoying cuz it looks so fun
Lol
ww is like
Ww kinda sick
I have to play both roles or I get bored
yeah i think thats part of why i like it
I go between moonkin and feral a lot
Hate me all you want
boomy looks incredibly boring to me
ww just has so many sick buttons
i love ring
i have love/hate relationship with images
fist parry is sick
spin 1 shots is sick
More classes need skill shots like rop
port is sick
serpent kick i love
bring back
legion serpent kick
where u could move it to w.e direction u wanted
so fun
legion ww 
ive been playing with mw's and it looks kinda fun
i wanna race change to nightborne monk tho
nightbornes do look cool
Real
yall some weird mfres
should go tauren
@tropic schooner i think
iam going ally
for wrath
kinda tired of horde
whats your plan
stay horde at least current plan
few friends started playing recently
and some more want to start when wrath hits
but dont expect that many to stick around
but other then pala current idea is lock - but that one mostly for pve
and shaman
yea
or push
I dont think im gonna pvp on lock - at least thats not my current plan
warrior ele hpal
and pala which I played back in the day
yup
my plan is dk arms feral
but i can see
the alts
being super ghetto
without pve
I also have some interest in hunter never really played that but always looked kinda cool
yea a warrior I wanna level too - currently sat at lvl 59
and well
waiting for xp + wotlk talents

fuck this shit
gimme shieldslam to nuke people
so hard to guess whats strong
in early phases
ye
beastcleave ye
phdk is gonna be strong every season
nothing special early on
but i think melee cleaves
gonna pump rly hard
s5
think its gonna be stronger in s5
compared to s8
but atc I doubt is playable
hunter is tempting
@tropic schooner u have a guild yet
not really
but friends of a friend wanna start playing so at least at the start
we prolly have 10 people
dont think we got 25
honestly
I dont plan shit
I just wait and see
sign me in
if you are there im sure we can
personally I prolly prefer ally too but ended up horde and too late to swap at this point
press x to doubt
tbh not sure what best feral comps are
think its jungle/kitty
first ssn is pure zerg damgur
but not sure how good war is early on
actually good call
battlegroup 2
ye
ye
tamos bien
i meant 3rd
yea
ah 6th aswell
hmm is that a thing tho
i never heard
about ele dk
being good
i dont think so i ever seen it
on wrath
same
but tbh also gotta keep in mind
that the core on warmane
isnt exactly perfect
yea pretty sure
bloodlust gargoyle
is one of the things
which is voerperforming
ya
think jungle is also a slightly worse version compared to php
feral is rly good but in 2s
yea feral in 2s pumps
there is a lot of those
ele dk hpal teams
i need to do some research
cuz i never seen it
is it some new'ish blackrock perk
tbh im sure ive seen it in s8
or what
ye
too easy to stop starfall
yup
da fuk is starfall
doesnt have to be amazing to be better than feral xd
that can repleace it
i think sub boomer, or frost mage boomer
dh boomy
was kinda obvious yea
TRUE
dk is just dh
actually have seen someone lose to that
moonkin dk sounds miserable
ye
idk
u neend good cc
with boomer
so that is sub or frost mage for me
maybe lock
destro that is
with shadowfury
hey guys whats the better pick for healer in 3s, Druid or priest? playing with a hunter-warrior
isnt holy still by far best healer
for kfc
imo both are good
priest might be better for setting up cc/cross cc/doing a follow up cc
there is no "better"
in this comp
imo
fair
u play faster game as hpriest kfc
cuz more damage, purge
range cc, that is easy to land
as rdru u wanna sit down, and play slower
enjoy the gaming
i would personally play rsham earth lego
as kfc
kinda ye, cuz the (i would asume)
fury + bm
why would you play if you dont enjoy
can put a lot of pressure early on
just stop
Just a joke 😦
Rsham looks really fun too yea with the legendary, but i dont have it as alt and i really cba gearing another toon all over
i would play priest then
u PI one of the dogs
u set up cc
and pump some damgur with boon
or mindgames
depends what u prefer
no nf?
no
NF is like/was semi decent with assa rogues
to lower vendetta to like 20 sec (with their lego also)
i dont think so there is something big u can lower
is it BW for bm?
not so sure
7 NF
6 kyrian
rest venthyr
most of the NF
are disc possibly
also its too easy now
to swap
so hard to say
NA has some more faes
but yea it is easy to swap I personally believe swapping underrepresents fae tho
cause of 2s/pve
but who knows tbh, wouldnt say fae is wrong tho
can basically play all 3 as holy
and its fine
depends what you want
there is a guy streaming blackrock
if u wanna check
26k hp mage, so i htink its s8
rmp vs lspala
few weeks ago watched some ele gameplay
oh shit
is spellhance
really a thing

tony is trhe biggest mystery
i ask him what do u think about haste build
"it suxx bro"
later i hear ghim say ill go haste build vs turbos tonight

thing is ppl saw him do it and started doing it

i swear i said tony is just trolling everyone @clear pulsar
Yeah I remember
I mean he's just playing it to play and see whats up idk its just a game
Maybe he feels like pressing clone a lot
ye but he says its dog when i ask others they like
its so much dam bro
so fun bro

he told me pl are just trolling ig
You're rly too worried about secondary stats bro s2g
no i told u this mfer
i just wanna know the meaning behind it
but every single feral is musta rded
i must bring the balance back
They have no idea
Why they do it
Its just feelycrafting and following someone else
Thats true for every game mode 99% of players of any level
id say the amount of pvpers just winging shit
is higher
I have the receipts to prove I was 1st
cause they just dont give a fuck
Maybe, but I wasnt making a distinction between just winging it and just following what the guide says tbh
dont let anyone ever fool u
Mostly I'm just bitching about the discourse in every conversation being so binary
nop
X is bis every other choice isnt so they're bad
Like every class discord to different extents
We've already had this talk enten and I
And enten's opinions are mostly all invalid anyways
hes regular and im not

i am king of pvp discord
i got all u fools in my dms
specially u face
asking me to boost u
yes yes
AYO DONT LEAK WTF
listen i was gonna repay the early io boosting u gfave me
but u wont play bm
so ig ur benched
mained chicken most of bfa
havent even played much druid in legion
Ok I just assumed cuz every orange is the same
Played druid 6 years ago
Never again
Ye no shot
Did you get your score or what feji?
Still banned

mfer i am banned till friadya
whats the affix this week
is it fort
or tyr
if its fort i send 1-2 dungeon i am done
Friday it'll be fort
lol free
God awful week
idc i have a bunch of never done fort
and like a 2
and im 2350
so its freebie
now the difficult part
is finding ppl who are in mordor that are not awful
to q 3s
sicne @tiny oar is pveing instead of gearing smfh smfh
The big dmg is the fury warriors massaging your face?
Listen here
Lollll
I will be duelist geared by next week np
I saw talks about the honor grind the other day here
Or how much it costs
Yall slacking fr
You can get 15k honor in 1h easily
Spamming solo shuffle
Yea it’s not bad tbh.
All of my shuffle matches go 19-20min it’s absurd
I’ve been a bm hunter for a day, full 1600 gear
Quick 1800 q session in like an hour
That's crazy, think thye might have added a hidden mmr to it? @grand mesa
No I just run into another geared healer and the 4 dps are 50k hp and no one dies
If the healers have a brain, the games are really fun
oof maybe as healer q or tank.. it takes me 15-20 minutes just to get into a solo shuffle queue as dps
for 800-100 honor
I actually really enjoy it when the other healer is geared tho. Think it’s really fun game mode
Yeah as dps I can see it being sadge but still, the 2 weekly quests alone give like 5k honor
Definitely haven’t done a hidden mmr. Lol
There was a 2600 disc in the same game as a 50k hp mw
i had a solo shuffle game where everyone was duelist+ and it was acutally fun as hell. idk it made me wonder if theres hope for the game mode
Yea I think it’ll be sweet
Idk how players will behave when their rating is on the line
I found a team mate for 3s in there
i think there will be tons of toxic "you played like shit last round so im gonna throw this one" type things, but that one match was actually everyone just going "nice kick on the blah blah blah" "oh man you had a clutch save on X" type things. super positive and fun
I think it's a ton of fun yeah when it's balanced
I’m excited for ranked shuffle for DF
But I was also excited for torghast pre shadowlands and that’s why I resubbed
So
lol
Ok pls dont slander torghast
I low key like torg
I was practically a torghast only gamer for like MONTHS
Tower Ranger Pykan here
Bro it was supposed to be 4th pillar of end game for me. M+, raid, arena, torghast 🥲
I still have screenshots of my personal bests in torghie
I just helped my priest friend in there on the new bm hunter. Fun to set how absurd other specs are
Yea torg is cool, idc what people say
Pvp island expeditions were cool too. Just no rewards so no one did them
Yea 1 baddie can really take away from it
i kinda dont get the appeal of solo shuffle honestly
As the healer it can be a fun minigame to like
always seems like its just some scuffed comp against some other scuffed comp
Try to carry the 50k hp guy to a win
Comps are psychological
Greatest torghaster of all time
legendary
1% missing. Trash run
You can buy in zereth mortis bb
NPC called rendle
Can buy with any of the leggo currencies I think
Ash cinders flux
OMG
ty f2f
papaje -ragnaros the challenger ret pally nexted me bro
i dont know if ill recover
My mentald be in shambles
im boutta give up ngl lol
Don’t worry, bm Pykan here to save the day
lakez u enjoying my bear aff 2s gameplay
the hunter i was playing with got glad while i was gone for a day and my healers areno where to be found so now im pugging at 2300 again lol
yeah
i was a bit lower than them both so they were getting glad wins while i was getting to 2.4, then i had to go out of town for one day
Get 2400, and we farm wins on my zero cr bm
came back and hes glad and healer is gone lo
i tried queuingsome kitty tonight but just lost like 60 points so calling it for tonight
if i can get a buffer into2400,ill take you up on that pykan 😛
Spec fantasy.
RIP OR DIE TRYING
GEAR IS A CRUTCH
GUARDIAN PLAYERS OUT OF MY ARENA
LOVE U ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT 💚
hahahaha
did u q vs bear lol
I managed to beat a Guardian Druid a few days ago.
Arcane vs Guardian, came down to the wire after a long back and forth.
How does Feral fare against Guardian?
Unh dk with lichborn basically the same thing 
Lakers feral aff rdru is so clean. Was watching last night lol
I try ty was sum nice games last night
I die half the time for being too aggro tho lol
I like feral aff more cuz I play better without bear aff safety net I think, if that makes sense
I rly like marks hunter rdru it's a lot more fun than surv or bm for me for some reason
I really dislike feral aff into outlaw. Gonna make an equip set for draught for rogue mage like u suggested
Ya draught battlemaster big rogue mage tech 4 sure
I kill the rogue by myself every time unless my boy trinkets air and dies in 1 go
Thing for me is I play guardian aff so much in 3s if I get too used to feral aff I completely forget I have incap roar and frenzy regen 😂
Lol ya
If I'm playing bear I forget I dont have maim and shift into cat to try to maim ppl sometimes lol
Hahaha yup. So many games when I decide to play mass entangle I forget I don’t have bash so I walk up to priest in stealth to root, we’re both confused, then he fears me
Lmao
I also rly like mass roots deep roots into rogue mage
Helps a lot with preventing their resets/ helping ur dps connect to rogue
(Basically have to trade cloak also or they just sit a full root thru all the dmg in the game)
hahaha
poorly ... guardian is ridiculously strong for 30s, if you can't dodge that 30s then you lose ... pretty much only class that can do that is rogue.
If there is a pillar you aren’t touching me
And the first half of the ramp isn’t scary
You got 15sec to kill a feral
Never lost a 1v1 to a bear in my life
@clear pulsar teach me feral. I’m going back dps in raids I think. Can’t stand healing anymore lol
Is there now
So your plan is to just hide until guardian gets bored and concedes? might work I guess.
I did a lot of pillar hugging to beat the Guardian as Mage
mage is a close one with blinks/block/alter ... can def stall a lot of dmg, taking more gap closers helps
Temp Shield and 30 sec Alter helped a lot
Didnt you say bear only can do anything for 30s?
Yes? Vampire bear is just walking away for the duration of their cds.
Angel bear trickier to deal with as they're just a second healer.
massive dmg for 30s, weak dmg for 90ish ... as soon as you open on guardian they trinket/incarn then you die
Living out incarn is fairly trivial as feral idk bro
Vampire bear becomes a problem if paired with two huge very aggro dps, think dh/dk or dk/ww
ye idk ive faced guardians and dont think ive ever died
quite easy to kite on any mobile class
idk, never seen a feral or resto able to get away ... they try to run but you have many gap closers, have them perma slowed ...
can't kite because you can't cc them
Bear players freaks fr, if you say they're oppressive they act like bear can only do anything 30s out of every 2:30 and thus are fine. If you say you feel comfortable beating them bear has SO MANY TOOLS to close caps and maintain uptime on you
are in mordor though
because bear is like the bane of mordor
big unkillable ball of stats
cuz ppl that lose to bear deserve to stay in mordor
every oogaa booga cleave just gonna take 20k dps then die in opener
this setup kinda requires you to play like a healer ... much easier imho to play to guardian strengths and pair with another yolo dps
if you don't play like a healer one of your teammates just gets gibbed in open
infected wounds
Just trade 1 sprint, force then to dash in cat
5pt maim
... is ignored because they're cc immune?
They're not immune while in cat form I thought
it sticks through all forms
didnt they change that
arent you trolling if you pve as feral instead of boomkin
or is feral actually good now
Moonkin kinda bottom tier atm
when I raided I was just forced to go moonkin
Feral is actually p good from what I understand but stigma
Boomkin is fun idk. Very chill
Boomie and feral are very similar rn, but ferals are used to being lower half while boomies act like the sky is falling
For raid feral is terrific
I thought you meant m+ by default idk
These SL boomkins man
Feral's been very strong in raid in shadowlands
In bfa I was brought for innervate and happy to be there
It was very good on sire but it didnt pad so it didnt look that great on wclogs rankings
It was easily a top 5 spec on sylv and painsmith, the 2 hard bosses of last tier
Was watching hippo he’s just blasting top damage on everything
And it's also very very pog on the hard bosses of this tier
moonkin still has the utility for m+s tho
I like how that wowhead page shows the population size as well ... 11x as many players on boomkin vs. feral, even if it's garbage tier
Treants arent relevant, innervate isnt relevant
Treants haven’t been useful since s1
Also I think utility is a meme tbh. If something does 20% more damage than anything else and doesn’t have much utility you take it
I would just not play with that group of people if I was being forced to go any particular spec for a guild that wasnt at least top 100 world
Boomie was insane in sanctum and it's still quite strong in raid
I was just happy with getting cutting edge
But so was feral
Wait you call me an SL moonkin.? lol
Yeah if my guild had told me I needed to go boomie on sylv I woulda been totally at peace with just not getting CE lol
It's not just SL, boomie brain literally cant cope with not being strictly better than feral
I’ve been moonkin or feral since this game existed
They think the world is ending rn
😠
Hopefully jailer dies this week and I’m free
boomies 
Going back to dps lmao I can’t stand raid healing anymore
Back to my chicken safe space
Feral is rly strong on jailer

incarn allows you to shift with it active, sleeper legendary gives cc immunity while incarn is active.
Legacy tooltip specifically says 'in bear form'
Like I dont doubt that it's active outside of bear form if you're saying it but
where do you see legacy tooltip?
Guardian enjoyer
Live your best life
Guardian disc are nice people
I give exactly 2 fucks about people defending NF bear
listen face gets flamed in every channel
Idk why face is such a nice lad
@clear pulsar errr ... i think you're seeing that because you're not specced into incarn.
I dont wanna just argue about NF bear being garbage again here
wroooong
But it is
Are you playing GG as necro?
Laser bear will be fun in 10.0. Might actually start tanking again then
Incarn just does too much with tier tho
Tanking can be fun, but it gets boring imo
And rdru in 10.0 looks fun for pvp for those who like to pvelord from 45 yards away 👍
cba with raiding ... getting ok at tanking m+ was a nice challenge tho
Face I’m thinking about DTL+the triple mastery lifebloom and all that nice stuff
With boomkin aff range
😂
I can’t get everything I want with 30 talents points
I hate it
But I guess that’s the point
The resto tree doesnt have that many things I care for
Was looking at nogards take on 10.0
He actually picked up circle
I think that sounds terrible
For healing. Idk about damage
Idk what that means
Circle for PvP healing?
For 10.0
Seems not great for mana
Just his random take on talents
But good burst heal I guess
I just don’t like that the hots burn out fast so you might not even be able to swiftmend out of CC. And you’ll be way more GCD capped. But who knows. Maybe it’s great
sounds awful for mana and prehotting ccs
Yeah true that seems bad
I mean it has Synergy with VI I guess
Cause if you extend your hots by 8 secs you still get the full 8 sec with circle
But also the 25% more heal
Idk how I feel about losing sotf but its locked by WG talents
I’m sure it’s a very rough first draft lol
Idk how to save people on big burst gos without SOTF tbh
I mean sure you have NS
But that's about it
Ns without sotf is tragic
Yeah
hes a guard aff everygame ret war only player
Tbh unless you win in the opener I feel like it's harder to heal melee cleaves than casters as Rdruid because it's much easier to target swap vs melees than vs casters
ret war rdru is 100% the easiest comp in the game for the rdru
bar mayb mage lock
but its kinda similar
ele demo
i mean its the same really
not much easier or harder
its just ur dps bailing you out
even if you play bad
oh u got sheeped judge dispell
oh u ran like in idiot and got priest feared sanq
oh ur about to die intervene/sanq/bop/sac
What about rdruid jungle
2 x 
u cast 4 regrowths u are oom
Fuji I am fuqd
what happened
My team git glad without me now I am pugging again and am down bad
Break glass double feral glad poosh
u got ditched??
f
ima be 1 month of no play rusty + my net is iffy at night
its dangerous
i need a mesh wifi or something
but not sure if that thing is worth it
Yee
why
Cuz they were already close to glad but I was sub 2400 and had 0 wins
So we got 2400
Had bad sesh
I had to afk 1 day
Got glad with another comp
Now I am 2220
Cuz kitty cleave sul
@grand mesa can u link
the feral tree
i wanna make one
kitty feels not as good vs ret wars
and there is plenty of them on NA
i can imagine
I’m already so bored of bm. I played it for a weekend.
highest skillcap spec
the place
where dispel is
for druid is so cringe
also what if u dont get swipe
but pick up brutal slash
does it work this day
way
the general talents are too cringe
i dont wanna play this expanion anymore

Ye ngl... I hate the talent tree
nop
to trick ppl like u
so your disc can move
Vanilla furor icon
vs
no way u take soothe
melee cleaves?
LMAO
fuck ur healer
it is kinda
no its not
ur tree sucks donkey
no u suck my donkey
Trying to make hybrid spec optional
ye skin talent
good one rat
ye pick up some ghetto 5% max hp shield
but ignore
roar
XD
i had 1 point left
either i take the skin shield
Necro feral again
or the speed after cat
Real
ok here is the
Feji copied elpatron but its like a cheap knockoff
chad build
XD
u legit
changed 2 talents
to some trash wall
and more healing on u
XD
instead of roar
this one
ye the 2nd one
i wanted to make one too
but its not even
worth making one
cuz no one knows
how meta will be
maybe shit like 3/6 % less damage taken
6% more healing on u
not gonna matter
how do u make a full fucking build
the 6% healing on u
with the regen shit
u dont make one
is super pog
nop
i think my dog is a bit smarter than u
soothe 
he can accept the lose at least
ik never lose
u already lost
u will play roar
every single game
so u will play sooth
thats a fact
Tbh neither of you know shit, and this is dumb lmao
What do you even need soothe against ?
i know ernough
I never even use it I don't even think I have it on my bars in PvP
fuck roar
Soothe kinda useless
see even david against patron
just keep rogues in combat by fucking killing them
itrs doomed for u

wow I never even thought about that lol
bro just take the moonfire onto urself
but if u moonfire urself u fuk ur draught
It’s funny when my priest friend says to soothe warrior enrage

And they get it back in 1 sec
Are we talking about feral now or still Rdruid? Cause Rdruid doesn't play draught and feral can't dispell moonfire so I'm a bit confused lol
yes
fair point XD
Okaymachtig
just kill
SMH my head




