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livid wasp
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all casters are so stupid

safe heart
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We try splitting vs that comp sometimes then double down on druid when he starts to oom

livid wasp
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and dk/dh if they just focus me I cant do shit

viscid remnant
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@grand mesa u rly think the miestro had a baby and it miscarried

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i seriously doubt this so much and hes tweeting all that for attention

haughty compass
livid wasp
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well I try to save root for the trap go

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on dh

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like god damnit its 2.1k why do I face 3k people

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and have to tryhard every game

fair mirage
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because there's nothing to do for a few months after getting glad so people screw around on alts

grand mesa
viscid remnant
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Idk i think hes full of shit

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I liked him but faking ur baby dying for attention is disgusting

brave shuttle
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What’s making MW so strong now?

grand mesa
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I mean maybe guess we’ll never know

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But I mean I have a kid. So I have a soft spot for stuff like this

viscid remnant
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So woyldnt that make u more mad if u found its fake and hes using a fake dead kid for attention

grand mesa
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Nah cause then he’s just another dumb idiot on the internet making shit up for attention/money 🤷‍♂️. I don’t really care for him much anyway

viscid remnant
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idk dont u think its a bit sus he got banned from twitch a few days ago now this

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i seriously doubt what he is saying

grand mesa
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I had no clue he was banned again

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What he do now

viscid remnant
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Idk

haughty compass
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I wonder if they really gonna keep dragon flight a secret til launch

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I’m here for it

grand mesa
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Hell no

haughty compass
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No testing. Full send

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Fuck your dumb feedbaxk

grand mesa
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HAIL NO

haughty compass
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Yessss

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They don’t listen anyway

grand mesa
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That’s old blizzard

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New blizzard learned COPIUM

haughty compass
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Woke blizzard gonna cry in the car if we tell them the game sucks bro

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I trust em that much. Keep a secret, it’d be kinda sick

safe heart
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I wonder how good feral sp would be rn

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Probably just like feral lock but worse I guess

haughty compass
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Claws was playing that a little a couple weeks ago on stream

rare willow
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yeah i saw some feral running spriest/feral/rdruid and it was doing well

safe heart
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Yeah like jungle is strong and stuff but I'm wondering if it's too scripted

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And if I played something kinda random if I'd do well with it

stray sigil
rare willow
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might have been glen. i dont think it was axtin

grand mesa
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@stray sigil this isn't THAT spaceship

stray sigil
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also

rare willow
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oh gotcha didnt realize

lime light
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Wasnt it

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The other feral

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Dont remember the name

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The one that played with dilly

woven pond
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how much of a dmg increase is the lvl 15 moonfire talent? cuz i really dont like the playstyle of it

livid wasp
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why are moonkins so stupid in 3s

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why do they get near-unkickable cyclones while feral still has to exit form to cast that shit with normal cast time

delicate marsh
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why do ferals get instant regrowths while moonkins have to cast that shit with normal cast time

viscid remnant
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🤬

livid wasp
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so fucking sick of the moonkins in 3s

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way too broken

delicate marsh
viscid remnant
livid wasp
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moonkin/dh/rsham literal counter

high swan
grand mesa
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Lorti UI. Just dark textured default frames

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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Never change zechey 😂

viscid remnant
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I deletd wow and all addons and doing reinstall s

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So now i need to put effort into ui

winged ridge
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are there any other good feral pvp guides besides snupy ?

grand mesa
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So exciting why sad face. UI tweaking is half of my content.

viscid remnant
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Idk

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I want to log in and play

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Not be addon garry

obtuse bramble
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just get the regular addons:
arena frames addon you like(sarena/Gladius/Gladiusex)
Omnibar
OmniCD
Weakauras

then setup raidframes as party frames and ... that's it?

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you can always also go for more stuff

viscid remnant
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true true

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just need to get it looking not scuffed

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prob pick dominos over bartender this time XD

obtuse bramble
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like a nameplate addon, unit frame addon, dbm, leatrix, advanced interface options and so on

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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Almost there 😂

rigid linden
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Old man making his comeback

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just got elite.

viscid remnant
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shouldve taken a screenshot of my binds

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cuz i forgor half of them

haughty compass
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Necro 2.4 is night fae 2.1

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Jk, gj big dawg

viscid remnant
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@grand mesa @stray sigil

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i put some effort in okay its not taht bad right its okay

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and yes i did join an rbadg group to test the party and left after taking the screenshot

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focus position is kinda shit mby ill move it around

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other than that seems okay iguess

grand mesa
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Clean. I have trouble finding a good spot for focus too lol

viscid remnant
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just need some weakauras to finish it off nothing special just uptime of mana tea etc

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the problem is with this tryhard ui

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i log on a different class and i need to remake

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i guess iam only playing mw

obtuse bramble
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looks good

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omicd missing?

viscid remnant
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uh

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i think its only in arena

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but idk

obtuse bramble
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you need to know if your mates have defs

viscid remnant
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ah forgor the addon

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ty

obtuse bramble
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also bigdebuffs? dunno, hard to see if not in action

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has a test feature though

grand mesa
obtuse bramble
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some don't, it's such a pain

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TRUFIGCD IS SUCH A PAIN!

viscid remnant
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2much work

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how do i move omnicd again

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i want the things on the left

grand mesa
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Anchor

viscid remnant
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not on the right

grand mesa
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Arena anchor position

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One of the settings

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I’ve used trufiGCD but realize I don’t actually use the info meaningfully when actually playing so I uninstalled.

viscid remnant
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found gg

grand mesa
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You’re making me want to fiddle some more when I get home lmao

viscid remnant
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now need to configure spells pog

obtuse bramble
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but I sometimes miss the clear display on what was pressed when when reviewing vods

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then again, it's way more detailed on the log viewer in squadov anyways

grand mesa
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SquadOV captures casts

obtuse bramble
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but it's not on screen

grand mesa
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Yeah

lime light
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DAVIDER u gonna heal today

viscid remnant
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big ui today

lime light
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Or iam still healing more

viscid remnant
lime light
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I was top healer every game, that they went me

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I wanna Play mm

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But i cant

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Farm the gold

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And other shit

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But i want soo badly

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To one shot kids

obtuse bramble
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swipe the card

grand mesa
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^

viscid remnant
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all the ui pics nobody said i forgor to bind trinket shm

grand mesa
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Lmaooo

viscid remnant
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also no details

safe heart
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Just throw it somewhere out of the way so if you vod review you can reference it

grand mesa
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Yeah I guess for me I can tell my GCDs when I vod review as resto

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Without it

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Unless u show ur teammates GCDs too or something

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar apparently haste build is more dmg

grand mesa
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Face is still on timeout sadCat

viscid remnant
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i messed with UI scale

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make it a bit bigger

grand mesa
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I can’t stand big UI scale lol

viscid remnant
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its on 0.8 atm

grand mesa
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I individually made my unit frames and action bars big and left everything else 0.65 lol

viscid remnant
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idk with how it was i felt a bit blind

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need a good chat addon

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normal one is so uggo

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i used to use glass but its really buggy

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u got anyhting ?

grand mesa
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Nope I use stock and used glass until it got too buggy too

viscid remnant
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ye glass is good but then some1 whispers u and u cant see it

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i guess overall it doesnt matter since i almost never look at randoms whispers but its annoying to have to open bnet

amber snow
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prat is good for chat addon

lime light
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groove me babi

safe heart
grand mesa
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My partner has SquadOV too. That’s how I found out he still kinda keyboard turns

lone zenith
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What is best trinket for resto druid in pvp please?

stray sigil
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@safe heart have u tried the haste build yet

lime light
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what is squadOV

grand mesa
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It’s like vod streams. It uses combat log to see if ur in an arena match or pulling a boss for raid and automatically records video until match ends or you kill boss/wipe themnuploads to their servers to watch

stray sigil
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kinda looks like twitch vods

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ye

grand mesa
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So you just leave it running in background as you play and it’ll record all your matches individually

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Also has a section where it has Warcraft log. Style timeline of casts abilities used damage taken damage dealt etc

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What I like is if you’re in a friends group with someone in squad and you’re both recording you can freely switch perspectives. If I’m watching a match and something happened at like 1:15 I can click my DH partner and it’ll switch to his perspective at 1:15 to see what’s going on with him

stray sigil
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maybe better to not have it for u then

safe heart
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Nah I haven't tried yet
Idk if it'll make enough difference

grand mesa
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I’ve seen things man

stray sigil
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so u dont know that he keyboard turns

safe heart
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If I use insignia I have 17% haste

grand mesa
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I didn’t notice as much cause he was DH

stray sigil
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apparently in the higher 20s

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is more dmg

grand mesa
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But when he played survival

stray sigil
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cuz u get 1 more tick of ur dots

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similar to why surv likes haste

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idk the exact number

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but thats what zen said

safe heart
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That's a shit ton of haste tho

stray sigil
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its not that bad

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looks like that

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gear wise

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id prob gem mastery and not vers tho

safe heart
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So is it haste + circle

stray sigil
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idk if its circle only

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im assuming ppl are starting to play circle

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cuz only ff and sickle dmg matters

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but u could prob do it with draught

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tf was saying circle is bad but hes kinda

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very tunnel vision mindset

safe heart
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Yeah I always stare at curcle long and hard but i never commit outside of 2s

stray sigil
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i think it should be better than draught on paper

safe heart
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Last night I tried feral aff and ebola

stray sigil
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ebola prob pretty decent into rmp or casters

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i would assume

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feral aff lock seem monkaS

safe heart
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Lost every game lol

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Nah felt horrible vs rmp

stray sigil
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really

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did they just run at ur healer

safe heart
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Nah they lived first go then assassinated dk in smokebomb

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Mainly it just sucked waiting for abom to do anything

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I didn't play many games tbf tho
I got to thinking jungle was too scripted and was making things hard but idk every other conp feels 10x worse

winged ridge
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how do you beat hunters in arena ?

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as feral

fair mirage
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Auto lose to Surv but can sometimes eat the healer of a bm/mm.

stray sigil
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if its hunter priest

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u auto lose need to kill hunter somehow

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if its rdru hunter u auto lose but u can kill rdru mayb

lime light
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ferel counters hanter

stray sigil
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ur mom counters me

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got em

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L

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  • ratiod
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i love u patron

safe heart
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In case you thought they're trolling, you actually do auto lose unless the hunter and the healer both throw

winged ridge
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are you supposed to focus the hunter or the healer

stray sigil
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priest u go hunter like no shot u kill a priest

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rdru u can kill

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but if hes guard aff

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u kinda cry urself to sleep

winged ridge
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damn i thought ferals beat hunters

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how come feral can’t kill a priest

stray sigil
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fly ga gfade also 30% dmg reduc at all time

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can also play ress if they are insecure

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ray

winged ridge
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what if the hunter isn’t playing with rdruid or priest

stray sigil
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hpal prob pretty aids to deal with cuz he can just bop sickle but

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id say hpal can die

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mw depends on the maps

winged ridge
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so you only ever go hunter , if he’s with a priest ?

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or if he’s with a mw on mugmbala

stray sigil
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ull never see hpal hunter mostly

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so i go hunter vs everything thats not rdru hunter

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and vs rdru hunter

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u cant tunnel on 1 guy anyways

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gotta swap a bunch and do ur ff/sickle gos on the druid

winged ridge
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but doesn’t swapping a bunch go against draught?

stray sigil
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cricle vs hunter

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but even if u wanna play draught

winged ridge
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circle vs hunter always or only when they’re with an rdruid

stray sigil
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it doesnt matter

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id play it all the time in 2s vs hunters

manic cairn
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why boomy play haste in pvp and not crit

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everything is instant cast anyway and your 1 shot potential basically rides on crits lyrrah1Stare

stray sigil
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cuz ur dots affected by haste and ur a clone bot

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also if u want more dmg better off ging mastery

manic cairn
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ya but your max haste changes your clone cast by like .2

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oh do people play mastery

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i missed that memo

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i thought that was old boomy

stray sigil
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i dont think they do

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but if u had to pick mastery or crit

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nobody would pick crit

viscid remnant
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More haste more astral power more starsurges

stray sigil
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more clones

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like the little bitch bois u are

manic cairn
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for falling stars it makes sense

grand mesa
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haste affects GCD too

manic cairn
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well even if u go crit u still have like 10-14% haste

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so you still get the hot part of GCD reduction but it seems to be mainly for the falling stars especially when paired wt the 250% stars on eclipse

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more surges etc as he said

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i c

grand mesa
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do people play solstice??

manic cairn
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rudar was

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maybe he only playing it w/ mvq

grand mesa
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i imagine you'd play fury of elune typically but who knows

manic cairn
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i guess i'll try mastery next

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HASTE BE LOOKIN WEAK AF

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FUCK YO CONSISTENT SURGES I WANT BIG DAM

viscid remnant
manic cairn
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big facts

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if she aint toxic ingame she a waste of time fr

grand mesa
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Do people self bond or bond the dh nowadahs

manic cairn
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i could pull up a video and check

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but i would almost bet boomy form on him bonding dh

tropic schooner
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its the same

lapis blade
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do we know what the s4 rewards are going to be?

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transmog set and mount

haughty compass
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Need

stray sigil
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slime cat?

grand mesa
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Probably oversight

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Like people on Reddit noted, holinka and blizz seem pretty happy with how trinket set bonuses has done in SL and said they planned to continue in DF. Hard to imagine that this is on purpose

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I must have it

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What do I have to do

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Oh do all the raids. Ez

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Ok

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Yeah

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Probably on any difficulty just complete it

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So shouldn’t be bad for anyone who wants it badly

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Treat it like a new raid/season. Except they’re using old tiers instead. The 3 SL raids rotate every week

stray sigil
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what the fuck

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i have to raid

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? ? ? ? ?

grand mesa
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If u want something that’s cool and not a recolor yea

lime light
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Feji go back to the cave

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this is my heaven

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i made this

stray sigil
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which cave

ebon vortex
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how do you stop ele shaman? feels like once my cc runs out they just melt my team

viscid remnant
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🤬🤬🤬

rare willow
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ele shamans do crazy damage but die so easy.

stray sigil
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whast the enchant look like

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@vestal citrus

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no new mog ?

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wtf

haughty compass
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Kinda craving convoke again.

stray sigil
haughty compass
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Necro scripted af

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Boring

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Keep bleeds maim.

stray sigil
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ok listen

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i get it

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but the irony

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of syaing necro is scripted

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LOL

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and u want to play convoke

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🤔

haughty compass
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It’s a different script

stray sigil
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much more scripted

haughty compass
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I hate this game

viscid remnant
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me when i do this and that but that does this to the thing with that thing that does this and that

stray sigil
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what the fuck did u just say david

viscid remnant
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👍

livid wasp
safe heart
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Convoke is the most scripted version of feral there is

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I don't ever miss convoke
Shit tilts me the fuck out

haughty compass
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Lol it’s true. Why am I like this

rare willow
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demo doesnt feel like it dies unless you kill pet twice or purge the insta cast after the first pet kill

stray sigil
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i cant find it on wowhead

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is it worse than s3

viscid remnant
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@clear pulsar

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@clear pulsar

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If face is muted for so long i can start grinding msgs

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Impossible task

grand mesa
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He got a 96 hour lol

stray sigil
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ye i dmd him about mathematics

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and i think i tilted him

grand mesa
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When are they gonna bring back MOP style enchants

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I can actually acquire them this time 🥲

livid wasp
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I just mainly try to go lock against lock/ele but idk if going ele is the best thing

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hardly winning against them

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my dmg is so crap too against double casters, like half of hunters

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dunno if im running too much and I should be staying in more

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feels so risky though taking all the dmg

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and I dont know if I should be using frenzy outside of goes cause I tend to save it a bit too much

safe heart
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I think ele is the better target but that comp is really hard for jungle

Staying in doing dam is absolutely not possible
Don't worry about your overall damage too much vs that

livid wasp
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I just try to have it for every trap

safe heart
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Your hunter has to win that game for yoi

livid wasp
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yea idk

safe heart
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Just try to do go's, leave immediately

livid wasp
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just like against hpriest/lock/ele in blades edge we tried to kill lock but didnt do shit

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always had so much shit for our goes

rare willow
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yeah the cds you gotta watch are Echo Shock and Tyrant. primordial wave is important too but it can RNG reset so its harder to track. but Primordial + Echo + lava burst is the big ele damage. outside of that i feel fairly safe

safe heart
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Yeah blades edge should be illegal

livid wasp
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ele dmg just feels so random

rare willow
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it is

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100% it is.

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echo is the only thing that reliably has a cd. pretty much every other offesnvie button can RNG reset

grand mesa
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Primordial wave to cleave the lava bursts on all existing flame shock targets j think

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And then echoing right

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I guess sky fury too on top of it

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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Fuji was it the haste question on twitter

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The math you were asking

viscid remnant
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Me when the haste

stray sigil
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but i did ask about the haste build for feral

grand mesa
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Oh ok

stray sigil
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he told me it was pooppoo

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doesnt do more damage

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not poissible

grand mesa
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And then u said it probably does

stray sigil
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but he got angery

grand mesa
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Then face went all face

stray sigil
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i said haste breakpoint

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and he lost it

grand mesa
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Oh yeah k caught that too

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Did he say that doesn’t exist anymore and we have partial ticks now

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For stuff like that

stray sigil
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he said haste breakpoint doesnt exist

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its not a thing

grand mesa
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Yeah it doesn’t exist it’s not a thing I let it go when it was mentioned earlier lol

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You get partial ticks or whatever

stray sigil
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Haste could only lead to more damage thru intangible gains. You get a cyclone faster and need to fake kick a bit less, or you get an extra bite in a given time frame where you're using maim too.
And haste affects spells that mastery doesnt, moonfire and swarm
But hard stacking haste is not gonna make your sickles and FFs stronger than they are with more focus on mastery.

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Ok this is why your tick breakpoint thing is meaningless
You have a dot like sickle. It does idk 10 ticks base over 10s. You get 10% haste so now you get an extra tick yes? No. You been getting an extra tick since you had any minimal amount of haste, it was just partial damage of a tick. If you had 5% haste, sickle would do 5% extra damage in the form of a half tick at the end. If you have 15% haste, sickle will do 15% extra damage, 12 ticks total with the last one being half value.

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tbh i dont understand anything he says

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i just go with it

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cuz hes my human calculator

rare willow
# grand mesa I guess sky fury too on top of it

yeah. primordial does a lava burst on all flame shocked targets + echo makes the next cast hit twice + skyfury (but they might not run skyfury, its usually a choice between lightning lasso and skyfury so +20% damage on a 45s cd or the channeled stun)

prim + echo + lava burst is at least 3 lava burst but could be as many as 8 IF they proc like a god

viscid remnant
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Haste could only lead to more damage thru intangible gains. You get a cyclone faster and need to fake kick a bit less, or you get an extra bite in a given time frame where you're using maim too.
And haste affects spells that mastery doesnt, moonfire and swarm
But hard stacking haste is not gonna make your sickles and FFs stronger than they are with more focus on mastery. Ok this is why your tick breakpoint thing is meaningless
You have a dot like sickle. It does idk 10 ticks base over 10s. You get 10% haste so now you get an extra tick yes? No. You been getting an extra tick since you had any minimal amount of haste, it was just partial damage of a tick. If you had 5% haste, sickle would do 5% extra damage in the form of a half tick at the end. If you have 15% haste, sickle will do 15% extra damage, 12 ticks total with the last one being half value.

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Thanks for the copy pasta

grand mesa
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Instead of needing enough haste to generate an extra tick like old school wow they pro rate fractions of a tick and deduct damage so you don’t need exactly X amount

stray sigil
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i dont get the fuss about haste then

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if it doesnt do anything

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think it was zen who said

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at X amout of haste

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u gain another tick

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but then face said thats wrong

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and that hes an idiot

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maybe not gain but

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idk

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maybe i can find it in dillys vod

viscid remnant
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The thing is why would u be a nerd over these stats when u can just equip gear and play

safe heart
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So should I play max crit for crit dot ticks

viscid remnant
stray sigil
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fuck bro

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i hate having to look thru vods

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i cant find it

haughty compass
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Haste isn’t good, I’ve messed with it

stray sigil
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ik he was in elwyn

haughty compass
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Better off mastery

grand mesa
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Haste increases ticks no matter what

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There’s no breakpoints because there’s partial ticks

stray sigil
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im trying to find what he said exactly

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dont wanna misquote

grand mesa
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The duration of a dot doesn’t change no matter what haste you have. The ticks increase inside same duration. They use pro-rated partial tick so you’re not in that old school weird situation where 19% haste gives you like 10 ticks and 20% haste gives you 11.

Now 19% haste would give you 10.9 ticks worth of damage or whatever. Using random numbers but yeah

That’s how I understand it anyway

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Face im sure could explain it better

livid wasp
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nerds

grand mesa
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If he wasn’t muted

stray sigil
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he was talking about

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how its the same concept

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as to why surv hunters stack haste

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for more latent poison tick

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or some shit

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ye

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1 more tick

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no ?

grand mesa
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It’s a GCD thing?

stray sigil
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na he def was talking about dots

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cuz that wouldnt like

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relate to anything

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for feral

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im pissed i cant find it

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i mean our globals dont matter that much in stun

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u have ur shit up before

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and u ff maim or maim ff

grand mesa
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Next season imma try feral

stray sigil
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i will find the fucking part in the vod

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i am commited

grand mesa
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Lmao

stray sigil
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FOUND IT

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@vestal citrus @clear pulsar @grand mesa

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02:35:07

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convo starts there

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he def says extra tick

livid wasp
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wtf a jungle streamer

grand mesa
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He also just realized haste was multiplicative so I don’t trust him on this type of Theorycraft

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@clear pulsar u see this tweet

stray sigil
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that was zen talking

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not dilly

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@grand mesa

grand mesa
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Oh

stray sigil
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watch t 02 35 07

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maybe itll make more sense to u than me

rare willow
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im too dumb for all the math shit. but PI makes big dam happen on screen so idk

stray sigil
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hes talking about no pi

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just going haste build

rare willow
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oh fair sorry

grand mesa
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@stray sigil i mean he's kinda saying the same thing i think, haste is more damage. more ticks. but i think face is saying mastery does way more for you point for point

stray sigil
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face said it doesnt give more ticks

grand mesa
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It doesn’t?

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Dots?

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Now I’m confused

haughty compass
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There’s a reason pve’rs don’t really go for haste

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But maybe it’s different for Necro idk

stray sigil
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is what he said

grand mesa
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The breakpoint doesn’t exist

stone breach
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Hasted dots do get extra ticks

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As well as partial ticks

grand mesa
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Yeah

stray sigil
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ok i dont get it

haughty compass
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Haste jut starts to lose value after 25-30%... but breakpoints don’t exist anymore

safe heart
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I'm about to no voice pug my way to glad boys

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Everyone has abandoned the jungle dream

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So now I walk this lonely road

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The only road I've ever known

grand mesa
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Lmaooo

haughty compass
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Lol

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I’ve literally not been on voice since season 1

grand mesa
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Idk how u guys do it

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I feel like me and my dh buddy have to constantly talk

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To get anything done

safe heart
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Honestly part of the reason is I almost think I play better with no voice

grand mesa
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Especially with using defensives against rogue mage

tiny oar
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Voice stresses me the fuck out bro

grand mesa
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Not double trinketing and shit

safe heart
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I hesitate alot when I hear my team mates flinch

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Like I'm going to bash healer and I tell.hunter to trap and he's like "no wait"

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So I hesitate and got dunked

haughty compass
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I mean it’s probably why I can’t get above 2.2

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I’ve been 2.1 all season

winged adder
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Voice doesn't help if you're not vibing

haughty compass
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And it’s always some type of overlap of some sort

winged adder
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But if you are, it can add extra level of planning

grand mesa
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Yeah if I was doing LFG I’d do strictly no voice

stray sigil
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i dont get this shit

grand mesa
stray sigil
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is it good or bad to go for haste then

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im so fucking confused

haughty compass
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Lol

grand mesa
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There

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Straight from the face

winged adder
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f2f still banished lul

grand mesa
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Ya

haughty compass
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Life owned him

grand mesa
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I’m pretty sure he’s getting the shakes

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Not being able to reply to this stuff rn

haughty compass
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Just a bunch of dummies in here tbh

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<— included

winged adder
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I actually not sure what your position on this is tbh

grand mesa
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Sref is a certified genius he can help

winged adder
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I'd presume haste has a little more utility in PvP compared to PvE due to cast cadence

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But in raw damage output it's clearly worse right

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It adds damage because of faster ticks, but less per point than other stats

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Which was what f2f was trying to say I think

stray sigil
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did anyone open the vod

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i sent

safe heart
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Subscribe to my OnlyVods for mature content

grand mesa
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I did

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And watched that part

stray sigil
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so whast the conscensus

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on that

safe heart
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I pick mastery

lavish pagoda
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Hi it's me, I know nothing about pvp

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All I know is lunar inspiration needs to start scaling with mastery

unique quartz
stray sigil
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face blocked me

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cuz i didnt get it

grand mesa
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HAHAHAHA did he really

stray sigil
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yes

grand mesa
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Omg

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Face says mastery is more damage

stray sigil
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i just need an ez answer hes telling me all this techincal stuff

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byut

grand mesa
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Idk if that means better for arena

stray sigil
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inb the bvod

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the dude

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says its more dmg to go haste

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is what im confused about

unique quartz
safe heart
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I think it's basically like mastery is more damage total
Haste is the same damage but shorter time to fruition

tropic schooner
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and see this gigantic brain take

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end me

grand mesa
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You like that?

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Hahahaha

tropic schooner
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im already tilted when people believe 1% vers more is 1% extra dmg

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that one is prolly even worse

safe heart
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Stop it you're gunna ruin kitty cleave

hazy moss
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Then wtf is Vera?

tropic schooner
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.. no

hazy moss
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Vers *

tropic schooner
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it depends on how much vers you have

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its 1% increase compared to your dmg with 0% vers

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but if you go from 20% to 21% it isnt a 1% increase compared to the dmg you had at 20% vers

hazy moss
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What about the dmg taken side?

tropic schooner
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similarly but opposite

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its more

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1% reduced dmg taken from 10% less dmg to 11% less dmg is more reduction compared to 0% to 1%

hazy moss
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I’m gonna take your word for it

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Ty

tropic schooner
winged adder
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People can't into "marginal benefit"

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And yeah multiplicative scaling is deceptive

grand mesa
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get to finally arena tomorrow night. only thing keeping me sane in this game after the week's raid prog lol

winged adder
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I miss arena 😔

grand mesa
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play!

winged adder
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I tried in Legion but both didn't like the feel of modern PvP and was intimidated by burden of knowledge

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I PVPed a lot in WotLK so maybe I do classic when it releases

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I participated enthusiasticly in all 4 kinds of PvP then

grand mesa
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yeah there's alot of random stuff to know

winged adder
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To an extent maybe WotLK had higher burden of knowledge because classes/specs were more idiosyncratic then

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But also each spec basically had one "correct" PvP spec and if you knew the spec you were up against you basically knew what they were and weren't capable of

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Which feels very different from the way things are now

haughty compass
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The convoke dream tonight boys

grand mesa
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what if haste increases convoke ticks @clear pulsar

safe heart
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NF LI draught build
Good or good

haughty compass
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Convoke Chad or Necro sad

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Kyrian glad

grand mesa
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Can’t u work up green name magic

rigid linden
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Uwu

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What about me glyph

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I'm a Aussie yellow condiment

haughty compass
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My two dads

unique quartz
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he essentially did lmao

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life literally murdered a man

rigid linden
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Wtf bring back face2face

grand mesa
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bring back f2f

surreal heron
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he's not banned

winged adder
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As I recall it was a 4 day mute

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Sunday at 7 AM EST we can welcome him back

unique quartz
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96 hrs yea

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opposite of 69, ecin

tiny oar
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Hi lynn

unique quartz
stray sigil
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@clear pulsar say nothing if i am smarter, better looking, better at the game than you

unique quartz
tiny oar
grand mesa
stray sigil
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ez

safe heart
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oh yar

stray sigil
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gz brudda

fair mirage
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Congratulations. 🐱

haughty compass
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Gj my man

safe heart
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now to get dem wins

viscid remnant
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Hi

tiny oar
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Hi

livid wasp
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nice, at least someone is not stuck 2.1k

livid wasp
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idk if I have to get 3k people to have any chance

grand mesa
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Hi

viscid remnant
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hi

lone zenith
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Are there some ways to block hunters trap as resto druid? I always end up Frozen and my teammate dies

viscid remnant
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fleshcraft and wild charging to your teammate or out of the trap

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half the ppl say its inflated half the ppl say its dead

lone zenith
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I feel like hunter is such a pain to play against. So hard for me to avoid his cc

viscid remnant
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u have to keep ur eye on freezing trap cd and your trap dr when its close to resetting pay attention to the hunters movements and position to be able to predict when he traps so you can move out of the way using wild charge or absorb it with fleshcraft

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u cant always 100% dodge it but u can dodge some if u play with that in mind

grand mesa
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You can taunt a pet to break yourself out too

viscid remnant
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TRUE i forgor about that

grand mesa
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Now have I successfully done that? Nope

viscid remnant
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but u need to be in bear to taunt so it takes a global

grand mesa
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But it can be done

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😂

viscid remnant
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its easier on paladin and monk

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ive done that a handful of times but its kinda unreliable

grand mesa
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Survivals that harpoon trap are way easier I think. Easy flesh/meld/tranq

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The more I play 3s as rdruid the further and further back I play to pve lord I feel anyway

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Actually rdruid kinda doubles down on that in DF. The healing will be insane. And can do it from 45 yard 😂

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Assuming numbers are similar

tiny oar
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assuming no stun be4hand im a fan of travel form before harpoon >shift root with a rejuv + ally wild charge teammate same global

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but thats mostly just for 2s where they cant cover every trap themselves or just shit tier mordor ratings

lone zenith
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I feel like I can do well against most things, but hunter is just... Eeeh
I get frozen and my teammate dies

grand mesa
safe heart
livid wasp
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cool

tardy hare
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Thats like 1.9 and 2.2 normal season

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Pog!

viscid remnant
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hey hey stop toxin machtig

haughty compass
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Prot feral guy in here

obtuse bramble
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so not even toxic

livid wasp
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is it even more difficult at 2.4k

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I have faced 2.6k mmr people a couple of times and won

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fucking same shit as 2.1-2.2k mmr people

haughty compass
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You can be a 2.6k person too.

safe heart
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We actually one shot venruki in the opener on one of our games last night lol

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Hunter got a 19k killlshot or something and deleted their ele

obtuse bramble
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haha

livid wasp
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yea dunno just have to get some insane streak at 2.1k to get rating up

tardy hare
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That is essentially how you climb from any rating yes

livid wasp
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yes but

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its stupid how you face same skill level people

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even though the rating difference is so big

obtuse bramble
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sometimes it has to click between you and your mates

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I have not had that for ages, lol

sour sinew
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Is it easier to get 1800 in 2s or 3s?

viscid remnant
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if ur resto or feral 2s if ur balance 3s

sour sinew
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I mean I’m terrible at pvp but man feral is most unfun thing to play sometimes.

grand mesa
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1800 2s pretty easy. Find a fury warrior 😂

viscid remnant
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try playing resto maybe yeah

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with a hunter/rogue/warrior

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should be okay

grand mesa
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Resto dh felt better last season but still decent

viscid remnant
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1.8 is pretty ez iam almost 1.8 on my mordor gear monk

grand mesa
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Zechey hasn’t complained about MW yet

viscid remnant
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today

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yet

livid wasp
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well its annoying to face

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hard to trap

grand mesa
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I always feel like I’m on a clock against them cause they don’t run of mana. Then they randomly die idk

livid wasp
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our plan has been going for dps then when he cocoons or trinks we switch mw

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sometimes works idk

fair mirage
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Have u tried just killing them

livid wasp
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like from start? no

viscid remnant
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@grand mesa 265ilvl

grand mesa
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Huuuge. 100% cause u fixed up ur UI

viscid remnant
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true

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i have so much honor but 0 conquest

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epic game

grand mesa
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I did similar with holy priest but it’s holy priest lol

viscid remnant
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now i shall feast

grand mesa
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U like mw?

viscid remnant
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yeah its pretty fun

grand mesa
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I need an alt but I don’t jive with anything but druid lol. Haven’t tried MW yet

viscid remnant
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i like it because its easy to troll ppl kinda liek when playing resto druid

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come to me port away across the map incap legsweep ring of peace lots of mobility

fair mirage
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Yep, the ring into the room on certain maps is also funny.

viscid remnant
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Also ringing tranq and casts like that

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I had a game against rmp they polyd me only once in like 5 minutes cuz i dodged the mage like a hero

stray sigil
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fuji carry

viscid remnant
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fake and a fraud

grand mesa
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Is it rough playing diff region

fair mirage
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Kind of depends on the spec you're playing and the ping you're getting.

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Melee with 350 is a pretty rough go for instance.

stray sigil
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i doubt most eu countries get more than 200

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maybe if u live in the west russia and shit

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theres chinese players on na ladder

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and a buch of eus

fair mirage
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Yeah, it's probably better these days.

safe heart
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Glad wins only count if you're above 2400 right
Like if you go above 2.4 then drop to like 2380, do your wins getting back to 2.4 count

fair mirage
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You need to currently hold the elite rank for wins to count, and you're in elite until you dip below the buffer which is...2375, I think.

safe heart
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Yeah the cutoff is 2370

stray sigil
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if u dont drop below 2371 ur fine

safe heart
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Well cool

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I lost the next match after that picture so I'm 2393 and we LG on that

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Gunna pick it up tonight

tardy hare
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Pog

fair mirage
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It was 2370 until last season where I think they randomly bumped it up by 5 points.

stray sigil
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no if u hit 2370 ur duelist

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cant drop to 2370

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so 2371

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should b ok

tardy hare
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Just hella sucks when u just drop below

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Wastes so many games if u dont insta get it back

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Even then 3 wins atleast

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Big sad

lime light
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the question is

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do we ebola or what

viscid remnant
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okay

livid wasp
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can someone watch my stream and tell me how to get 2.4k

ornate wyvern
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Looking for guide on how to guardian in pvp? Seems to be a lack of tanks for RBGs, anyone can give advice?

grand mesa
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Rogue hunter trees out

delicate marsh
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all rogue specs can have shadow dance? lamo

grand mesa
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Yup

delicate marsh
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good riddance

viscid remnant
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hahahahahaah

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imagine

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outlaw with 1min cd blind

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and shadowdance

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loooooooooool

grand mesa
grand mesa
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Do they have vanish lego

delicate marsh
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let mages get deep freeze too, gonna be a fun rmp expansion

stray sigil
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if there are games u want me to look at in particular i can look at em later

livid wasp
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I do

haughty compass
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Lol rogues

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Meanwhile feral tree

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Back to moonkin

stray sigil
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lmk if u have games u want to be looked more

grand mesa
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Is there no kidney shot?

viscid remnant
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they forgor

livid wasp
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nothing in particular in this vod

rare willow
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oh shit i thought it was 2375 too. lol ty yall

grand mesa
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This will CDR combust like crazy

rare willow
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that seems busted

viscid remnant
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hahaha

fair mirage
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Hate it here.

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Hate Rogues.

stray sigil
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do i even wanna open up

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the hunter/rog calc

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is fucking craven still there boys

ornate wyvern
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Will guardian lose the sleeper style legendary ability?

haughty compass
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Evoker wru

rare willow
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oh shit i didnt see craven

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i just glanced at hunters though

grand mesa
#

i just ctrl+f craven didn't hit

rare willow
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thank god.

livid wasp
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feels like everything will be completely weird from what we have now

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I hope feral wont get the short end of the stick

obtuse bramble
#

So far feral will have to decide between stuff from the current kit

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Meanwhile rogues get it all

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In all specs

haughty compass
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Feral has been fundamentally busted for a few expacs now

livid wasp
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haha

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good one

ornate wyvern
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where is druid trees?

livid wasp
haughty compass
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Maybe a double dps feral come back. Can potentially be a solid off healer

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Unholy dk feral in wod was my favorite comp

tardy hare
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Frost dk feral

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Pog

haughty compass
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Puttem in the blender

haughty compass
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Pve perspective

grand mesa
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🤔

haughty compass
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No utility, generally low dmg

grand mesa
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Oh you meant busted the other way

haughty compass
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Lol

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Yea

stray sigil
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bruh this

livid wasp
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didnt ion say something

stray sigil
#

rogue tree

livid wasp
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that they think feral has enough utility

stray sigil
#

is so

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LMFAO

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holy shit

livid wasp
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for pve

stray sigil
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they have everything

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? ? ?

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LOOK AT FERAL TREE

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AND LOOK AT ROGUE TREES

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U FUCKING WAHT

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LMFAO

grand mesa
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Bro I know

haughty compass
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Bro it’s crazy

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We have 4 specs, that’s the justification

stray sigil
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BRO

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THEY HAVE

grand mesa
#

I didn’t mind druid trees

stray sigil
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TIGERS FURY

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ON CRACK

grand mesa
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Until I’ve seen the new ones

stray sigil
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3 CAHRGES

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LMFAO

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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? ? ? ?? ?

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L;MFAO

haughty compass
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I told you guys our tree was trash and I got flamed

stray sigil
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?????????????????????????????

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???????????????????????

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they have

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3x tf

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????

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????

haughty compass
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Me and Fuji I believe

viscid remnant
#

feji

stray sigil
#

dude

viscid remnant
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relax

stray sigil
#

we hjave to spec

viscid remnant
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i believe that

stray sigil
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for tf

viscid remnant
#

we will be okay

#

when we all reroll roguer

stray sigil
#

to give us energy back

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mfao

grand mesa
#

I still have my 60 boost

stray sigil
#

im not going that pussy ass fucking bitch class

grand mesa
#

From pre order

haughty compass
#

I will never play theif class

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Only class I haven’t tried at max actually

stray sigil
#

bro their tree is actually way too insane

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blizzard is utterly

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reta rded

haughty compass
#

Shadow priest rogue meta

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The move

stray sigil
#

cba

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let me look at hunter now

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and cry

grand mesa
#

Thug with the 5s silence

haughty compass
#

Pika goes into AA and comes back Blizzcon champ next expac

grand mesa
#

The move is back

stray sigil
#

ok so

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hunter has scatter trap back

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xd

#

ontop of stun i would assume

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yesyes

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ontop of it np

grand mesa
#

Yup

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If it’s like the lego bow I think it’s an aoe silence too

stray sigil
#

k so hunter looks a lot less

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insane than rogue

#

wait

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so assa

#

can have a 6s silence garrote?

#

???

livid wasp
#

someone teach me how to get 2.4k

misty shuttle
#

also gauge

stray sigil
#

im just like

#

whos in charge of making those

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and sees the rogue one and thinks its fine

misty shuttle
#

a rogue main xD

stray sigil
#

and looks at druid and think its fine

misty shuttle
#

a warrior main ^

stray sigil
#

they gonna play 2 xpac ahead of us

#

they not even gonna be playing dragonflight

livid wasp
#

haha

#

I hope feral will be absolute garbage

#

so bad that its literally unplayable you cant get 1.8k

#

so I can finally have a good reason to quit

#

and not go through this pain

mellow granite
haughty compass
#

Pretty sure there are 2.1-2.4 players of basically every spec / cov option

#

If arcane mage can hit 2.4, so can you

mellow granite
#

Venth feral at 2400?

haughty compass
#

Yea probably a few examples of things like that, haha.

livid wasp
#

I cant hit 2.4k even if I wanted to

mellow granite
#

I need to push 2400Deadge

livid wasp
#

cant queue without partners

mellow granite
#

Need the tabard

haughty compass
#

I’m really excited about solo Q

mellow granite
#

Will be fun

#

Hopefully

haughty compass
#

Just nice to just Q if pals aren’t on

mellow granite
#

Ye tru

haughty compass
#

I love solo shuffle, I just do it for fun atm

mellow granite
#

Getting solo q r1 is the ultra flex

haughty compass
#

Come catch these hands after 8pm pst

#

Bt curio Kyrian

viscid remnant
grand mesa
haughty compass
#

I really really want to play kitty / fmp or ebola

livid wasp
#

I wish you could queue shuffle or skirms when in lfg, ive been waiting in lfg for literall 2 hours and havent still found a single hunter or priest im getting so damn bored nothing to do I just want to play jungle and try to learn the ways of the feral and maybe some day try to reach 2.4k please god why cant it happen

tiny oar
#

I wish you could queue shuffle or skirms when in lfg, ive been waiting in lfg for literall 2 hours and havent still found a single hunter or priest im getting so damn bored nothing to do I just want to play jungle and try to learn the ways of the feral and maybe some day try to reach 2.4k please god why cant it happen

haughty compass
#

Lakez you’re a shining star

tiny oar
fair mirage
#

The more I read the worse it gets.

safe heart
#

Yeah but all the druud cat forms are cool unlike all the rogue cat forms

fair mirage
#

One tree is like "okay I guess this is the least useless" and the other is "oh this could be nerfed by 50% and still be great"

#

reading through these is like

#

kind of concerning

#

Presumably replaced with Deathmark?

#

Which doubles dot/poison damage for 15s every 120s

safe heart
#

Will there be new cat forms

random patrol
#

prob have to wait until they datamine to find out for new forms

grand mesa
#

rogue just looks cracked idk

rigid linden
#

Whats mehx's disc armory

#

my misso is LF a disc priest to copy

#

does anybody know?

grand mesa
#

Obeng

#

is what i've seen him stream on

#

oh disc idk

rigid linden
#

cant find no sign on checkpvp

#

is he a betrayer and plays holy now

stray sigil
stray sigil
#

for a while now tettleslul

rigid linden
#

smfh

haughty compass
#

Kinda like our favorite night fae going Necro

rigid linden
#

Lmfaoo

#

Funky

tiny oar
#

Yea I mean

#

Disc is just pure inting rn ya right like

#

No shot u play priest as disc and not holy rn

stray sigil
#

i thibk its playable

#

but ruff

#

was watching big marv q disc jg last night

tiny oar
#

Idk what jungle does disc prob fine for that still?

stray sigil
#

i think fae disc helps

#

with mana shit

#
  • penance with 4p massive
#

but they were kinda getting fiarmed

#

not sure if its cuz of disc or gekz being kinda washed

tiny oar
#

Is gekz washed

#

Havent seen em in a while

stray sigil
#

eh

#

think he plays too much mordor 2s on stream hes kinda washed

#

mostly plays rmp too

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so doesnt really help

tiny oar
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Yea rmp brain rot

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Real thing seen it happen

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Sad

safe heart
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lmao

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get on to start glad wins

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instantly lose 8 games in a row

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this game is sick

stray sigil
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u gottta grind the elite again ?

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@safe heart

safe heart
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yep 😦

stray sigil
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keep on keeping on

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ull get it