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honestly who cares what you say? You arent el patron your opinions dont matter! 
we all are just pawns in his game
True
True and real
Solo shuffle is legit I actually just play for fun when I have nothing else to do. Ranked will be interesting
It’s really fun when everyone is geared similar.
Yeah it's a blast when it's competitive
Dying vs MM in the opener is always a skill issue lol you know what they will do 100% of the time they come out of stealth and do big burst
Idk solo shuffle is kind of annoying but ye if everyone has equal gear could be fun
Its rly annoying when u got 40k hp andy that insta dies u lose that round no matter what
Yeah then it becomes 3-3 just smash the 40k dude
played a few rounds as guardian, did 3x dmg of everyone else, hardly ever lost, felt guilty 😦 Needs ranked to be interesting imho ... nice quick honor farm tho.
Oh you’re back
Guardian life too ez
High skill
it's ... the zuggiest of zugs
its going to be a weird meta when rated solo is released. i really like kyrian feral or my ele more than necro feral in it.
sure can do!
havent killed a boss yet
so all up for you
Guardian garry
u can gimme urs too
Is feral better with a healer or another dps?
Yeah. My 2s partner just finished leveling his. Just wanted to make it was going to work. I went necro and have the draught lego. I dont have 2p yet though
def want 4p
asap
Sickle really made feral fun this season imo
Yeah. Working on it. Just started playing feral since I got bored of the other classes
finally
sickle pretty much the reason why feral is decent lol
True
grats on dragonwrath

Crafted?
Big nuts. For real I have a crafted thunderfury on my Druid lol
same lol
i have glaives too
both of them
tilted me i got both bindings on my druid and no one else
but ig uess i don't play any other class but druid so who cares lol
Can we get pepeApe emoji
I’m missing main hand glaivw that’s it. You inspired me to go and try for it again
If I resub classic will one of you boost me
i also need a boost
Anyone know if fastedious resolve trinket fix3d yet
Yeah they murdered resolve trinkets god bless
Holy shit
Pls tell me that does what I'm imagining it does??
YES
Echoing resolve was intended
Not fastedious
Thats what the gm ticket said anyway
@vestal citrus
Unless im mistaken
Echoing can stay dead
Aah fair enough
Is balance good in 2s as well?
just had some fun playing around with the calculator, but this seems like such a fun build, dot everything, be super tanky in bear with a kick option (possible to swap to take increased healing and curse/poison dispel if needed), dot everything, watch full moons fall, go out of bear, pop starfall and fucking turret away with starsurges that proccs goldrinns 😄
obviously dont know if it will be any good, but seems like a fun option
and you also have nature's vigil, which could be pretty crazy healing during starfall and surge spam
didnt build to convoke cuz 3 points in stellar inspiration or umbral intensity seems like such a waste for what most likely will be a 2 min convoke
Hey guys, anyone know what build we’ll be running in dragonflight? I know it’s early days but I just want to try and get a step up on the competition, you know?
🔮
Go away thx
Ty Leekz
I will end you

just answer tsk. Obviously -as stated earlier- all out berserk bleed build will be best. The numbers are just highest.
I wanna be a dragon
Undead druid when 
together with undead Paladins
fungus growing out of eye sockets, consecrations burning feet. It will be glorious
Lollll
fungusus
kitch doesnt give a single fuck about pvp lol hes just memeing
Surprised kitch was even here
was talking to him in another channel abt this
Figured he got lost lmao
Lol
The new talents are so interesting but I worry we will be locked out of a lot of our toolkit. Hopefully they will give us a calculator soon so that we can play.
Ps: pls gib sickle on berserk.
it's not called sickle, but it's in there
bottom right
As it is right now, it's a bit tedious as a feral, as you need to spend loads of points for either Bash or Clone
MonkaS dude thanks!
compared to how they set up DK
where you get IBF, Sleet, Mindfreeze and AMS basically for one point each
Yea I see a lot of changes coming. Or at least I hope so
but yeh, it's too early to be too invested into the current state anyways
Yea, but still we get to play a bit with the calculator. Didn't know we had one since it wasn't on wow head
Good guy glyph
No thats frenzyband
oh, is it?
huh, I missread then, sorry
exactly how I have clicked it together
in the calc you can click the improved frenzy in the middle
I'm a ursine vigor > whi type of guy but
I don't know if you need the soothing talent below that though
No u can take wild charge
Everything indicates that
You put 8 points in to unlock past that line then you can just talent in wc
ah, looked like frenzy, but it's wild charge, yes
looked at it yesterday and was super tired
why do you go for the two boomie talents?
it is a bit fried, you need to unclick those :D
Am I wrong or in the feral tree you can't get predatory swiftness without speccing into primal wrath?
correct
at least it's only one point...
glyph why are u enabling them
You took bash, right?
Yea
Roar into clone is gone. I wonder if they seek to nerf the overall cc present in the game
Won’t believe it until I see rogue/mage trees
rogue and mage trees will be the deciding factors, I guess
DB vs nova
.<
hahaha rogue mage i guess kidney is baseline and theres a talent that increases the duration
because they need that
XD
Rogue sap vs blind Inc 😋😋
I mean, I truly hope we see some nerfs there. RMP legit dominates last 2 awc
I saw 1 jungle. Only 1 jungle. And Tony had to peel for kairoz to keep him alive legit for the entire game. Kugarna gg
They need to let you select up wards on these new talent trees instead of only down
So you have more pathways and don’t take useless shit
Big true
Or make things like improved shred useful so it doesn’t feel bad to take it to get to rake stun
any one have any good starter guides for guardian ?
Ok now that I've looked at it a bit more, this is silly. I have to spec brutal slash to get instincts (Feral) and swipe (druid) to get kick. Then gotta waste 4 talent points to get predatory swiftness. bruh
(For those that wonder why I mention the slash and swipe things.... why do I need both? xD)
Hey guys, anyone know what build we’ll be running in dragonflight? I know it’s early days but I just want to try and get a step up on the competition, you know?
too early to possibly say. The talents will change 100 times over. (at least I sure hope so)
Then again we can take both life and death and deep focus. This talent tree... was not made by a pvper
can someone help me understand how draught works? is it you can have all of those abilities on 1 target and they all get buffed? or is it you can have moonfire on 1, rip on another, rake on another, they all get buffed?
whichever effect is only on 1 character gets buffed
so if i have moonfire, rip, rake on 1 and then moonfire another, rip and rake are still buffed but moonfire is back to normal on both?
No one can know
Anyone claims to know is lying
I know. my dad works at blizzard
By knowing to press right talents may save you 20s in prepatch
Can train mousemovement
Woody was copypasta’ing kitch’s meme lol
Your moonfire , rake and rip are buffed if and only if that dot is only on 1 target individually
So you can have buffed moonfire on guy 1, buffed rake on guy 2 and buffed rip on guy 3 but once you put moonfire on guy 2 as well while moonfire is still up on moonfire 1, it's not buffed until it is the only moonfire to exist
Ohhh ok that makes sense I'm not nearly good enough to figure out that playstyle just yet then lol
No it's easy
You just do pure single target
All this means, is you shouldn't try to dot multiple things , put all 3 dots on 1 guy
Ohhh ok
Switch if you need to, because the dots will become buffed once they fall off the other target but the idea os you are tunneling moonfire rake and rip into one (1) target
Ok cool that makes sense thanks!
Npnp
I assume it's much better in 2s than 3s?
It's bis in both
Feral is not a cleave spec, you tunnel into one guy whether you're playing 2s or 3s
Maybe that's why I'm doing so poorly in solo shuffle lmao
Yeah you want to just bleed your kill target, switch when necessary
I'm just going around dotting everyone
Yeah don't do that for sure
If you want to do multi dotting, try playing curio or circle
But these are generally sub par options to single target draught strat
Frenzyband 😈
We don't talk about frenzyband
Good to know. Just starting to learn pvp and feral so I'm sure I'm doing a ton wrong
Circle works if kyrian.
I suggest you check out Snupy on youtube. He ain't the absolute best feral out there, but he's entertaining to watch and has guides for every possible comp / covenant.
If new to 🐱 , I suggest picking up his necro guide and watching some of his games as well as q-ing non-stop. Zug zug!
Oh no he who should not be named got named

On the other hand, if you are Russian, check out Tony. AWC champion. He super cool but his guides are on 🇷🇺
Circle kyrian I find fun, so that’s what I play lol
Just learn russian
Easy
Play some Dota and you are fluent
Kek
Yes it is. It's from that one time he went to take a shower on stream from charity and I got the perfect screenie. Believe it or not, he has more hair than me. Anyway, that's off topic so I return to topic by saying that convoke is bad. sagenod

hi guys, didnt see it in the patch notes or hotfixes but did they nerf cosmic gladiators fastidious resolve? im no longer immune to interrupts. Or is it a bug?
ah shit 😦 only saw the other trinket getting that nerf and hoped it was a bug^^
yes indeed 😄

Snupy click baits too much
snupy gives far to much misinformation
for a new player
gives bad habits
if u follow 1-1 what he does ends up being wrong often
Trying to make a little money. Who cares
Taught me enough to get where I am 
He ain't the best but he will help a newbie get a hang to it
yea clickbaiting isnt the main critic
Click bait on YouTube is like, the meta
idc that he plays shit builds and puts title ad like
My problem with clickbait is that I wish he would just do more legit content
I just hate the videos where he's like "THEY CANT HANDLE THE PRESSURE" and it's like feral / lock in 2s at 2k
BEST BUILD ?? OMG
I think the criticism is he click baits with these random builds
That works for him cause he’s good and doing viewer games
Yeah like his video about ferals might go kyrian now and it's like kyrian frenzyband
so ppl follow it blindly
yea that was a good meme
I'll take your opinion, but offer an alternative if not snupy
if u wanna watch something
Tony guides are inaccessible to non ru audience
go watch axtins vods
on twitch
or catch his streams
literally the best player you can watch
very informative
insanely good
99/100 times it’s the fundamentals that hold newer players back, not the small details
and plays every shitpost builds possible so he has xp on then
Tru
also if u have questions chances are ppl here will give u information that’s actually correct lol
instead of telling you how to do an opener
Yeah he responds to chat very well
thats completely wrong
Axtin is male ne professional
and post s vid on it
Speaking of information, have you guys had roar break randomly?
Adaptive swarm
roar breaks from any source of dmg
Probably
Pouch cleave
No. It breaks on my kyrian too
Was 1v1, roar into clone a dh and the roar legit broke yolo
no
No
doesnt remove dots and will break to dots
🤡
I legit got to 1.8k without knowing that
^
this also
Thought it was like blind
axtin the reason why im 3k xp
no cap
dude was the biggest source of info
and not toxic
I'll take your word for it and check him out
for a r1
He EU?
NA
In Fuji I trust
And no YouTube, right? Only twitch
im not sure about yt
but twitch yes
ima assume knowing him he a bit lazy for yr
lol
Gg
yt
I don’t love the twitch pvper meta of only enabling past broadcast vods for subs lol
na
Axtin is sick. Chill vibes. Prob best feral
Fuse used to be sick
u might have seen
him in the 1v1 tourneys
or the
one tourney by that eu org
where u had bans
Does talason and bean still play?
I only knew of Tony before you guys gave me those names
bean memes nowadays
plays with graycen sometimes on retail
or p1
doesnt really play retail anymore
Bean never returned to glory after losing wit cdew
I used to watch bean alot
Yeah remember watching his team go against reckful in MOP
But he went tbc and I cancelled sub
na ferals for like streams
is kinda scuffed
syfox stopped playing pretty much
fuse doesnt stream
Snupy on playing convoke now. Inc YouTube vid
zev is kidna uh
toxic
and his teammates are pure assholes
so leaves u with axtin only
There aren’t many rdruids 🥲
We’re people too
Pve guide ez
🥲
Who knows if we even have hibernate in 10.0 lmao
With it being so far down balance line
Had this in my YouTube suggestions and remembered the clickbait photo from like a week ago posted in here
Imagine
0.3s per builder
When you already get 3.5s per finisher
It's TOO STRONG!?!?!?
Mentioning frenzyband and snupy gets face to show up faster than directing pinging him lmao
LMAO
It's like saying thyme's name
or el patron
why flame

whats that
its a channel
where
rat king
i mean, maybe in murica its big, but in EU 1.8k ferals do more than FEJIRATATATA
na no way
i think
i would just win opener every game
guitar hero still exists/
its old
bro tian
i have this one
ok ya that is og game
yes
i saw
3k jungles
play vs war/lock
and not go on the aff lock
?XD
do i just q it up
and show these new jg
how to do it
wtf
i swaer lock
cannot live
vs jungle now
ye how do u live
they buffed bm
vs bm jungle
again right
bm is weak
"not in pvp"

but not this one
i mean at this point
i dont think so it matters
they deal unhealable dmg
i mean
they used to deal unhealable dmg already
yup i member
and these ppl
literally
have an ego now
this dude i played with
got r1
and thinks hes good
he fotm rerolled
to bm hunter
and hes still ahrdstuck on his main class
lol
xD
im kinda glad i dont do 3s
i look at ladder in na
and see the absurd amount of ret war
FUCK dude
on ladder
plug it back wtf
i dont remembner how
ret war?
when i still played
there was not many
of those
but they insta win lock teams now i guess
i wanna play ret ok
i wanna play ret
y doe

tbc weirdchamp
tbc so dog
but there is potential in it
to became a wrath
and shadowlands can only became a dragon simulator
idk if i can be more true than true
as iam
say one more time that el patronidas is wrong and u gonna piss yourself at night
good luck tonight kid

Can you get GCD lower than 1s? character sheet shows it as ~0.8 but sims are now showing near 0 value for haste after it being top valued stat.
cat gcd is always 1 sec
You can get to 0.75s
I’ve heard people say that. As much as everyone bitches about RMP you don’t see them until really high up , but ladder is littered with ret war
idk why tho
ret war is rly good into jungle
and there is plenty of that
but it feels
pretty bad
into rmp
u are not gonna kill hpriest
or either mage
so only way is killing a rogue
with 50% evasion uptime
and 100% feint uptime
hm
i mean
not so sure about that
90% of the ladder
is ret war
and rmps
look at na ladder
the most dog shit players are r1 on ladder atm
lol
it will makes my eyes bleed
EU has fairly good players in r1
na ladder is bunch of randoms playing ret war or rmp
Yo fearl pumps
Whaazz dominating
i dont think so there is a single ret in top 20 on eu
but eu ladder is dead for a while
thats for sure
Last season also ran long
And I swear to god you gained so many points last season just going 50-50
Is that EU?
That was NA 3s towards the end of the season.
Dude I lose so many points it's unreal
Is it just me or does EU just have more players
Like I went 19-15 and was down like 70 pts
idk when i still played
That's why u plaay with similar/higher mmr teammates 🐱
EU felt rly dead
and it was a while ago
like first sqsn it rly felt
dead
for real
I was like 2080 and they were 1980ish
Wasn't that crazy
I remember when I hit elite@last season late it was like top 3000 or so in NA. Then I saw someone with the same rating and it was like top 8000
For 2s anywya
Hard for NA players to stay attached to pvp when EU wins every blizzcon
What whaaz or cdew does has no bearing On whether I play lol idk
I just think na like it less for whatever reason
It's not that it has any bearing on what you play
this ssn for sure
But having good results in competition makes a sport/esport more popular in a nation/region 100%
US sucks at football so no one plays/watches it then they just made up a new type of football and renamed the better one
It is what it is
cuz NA is a dogshit region
I think that’s more true of esports where people actually make money by being pro. More young guns want to climb up
Wow arena is weird
even blizzcon
It trickles down tho
u make no money
It's like the faction exodus for raiding
Fuck they crowd source like dota TI winnings and then take the pot anyway lmao
It starts with a few people at the top
Then the ones right below, their friends, etc, so on
I still can’t believe blizz did that
isnty blizzcon
250k total
1st is like
125k?
thats literally less than league salary

You place like 12-16 in dota TI you make like 5 times that
Mad lad
Complete GOAT
Saying the money isnt even worth playing in the blizzcon stage
dude i just watched a twitch clip that was below
that some egirl is destroying a watermelon with her legs
or more likely knees
no it was legit
below the clip
that Face linked
idk why i cliked
maybe cuz it had 110k views
already
So face is horny
face def a horndog br
Fuji is the one that literally has a twitter acct dedicated to RTing horndog pics
but the question is
Is that right
whats wrong with that
👀
It’s actually true. My timeline def got more sus after I started following Fuji



love u tho

100% mw wr gigachad
Night Fae Hpriest + Kyrian Guardian + x
👎

👎🏻

TRUUUUE
Does she do it
the cleanest cut
and was pretty happy about it
i think around 170
elpatron detective
XD
ret is the biggest
feji
braindpower class
muricans can only count to 10
True
i think around 150 more likely
XD
the thing is
iam noit playing for a while
and i think
it auto resubed for 6 months
again
poes
i mean tru i am not qin
unlucky
bro i love my druid to much
its so ufnrto
if i could
transfer a character across regions i would
Do I buy a pc and start playing wow again or what
Someone gimme the run down on lord
What happened
@tardy hare bro what is your Instagram
Yeah trick question bro ain’t never gonna leave my elden ring wifey
same as my snap basicly
This you?
dox pog
How many Ruben’s exist
no clue
Is draught best for 2s or should I go circle?
New to feral. Is there a reason my sickle sometimes does like 50k and sometimes 15? Is it easy to fuck up in rotation?
Fair enough. thankyou
ahh yes it was a hunter 😂
Hunter is poo poo for feral
is that what el patron look like?
True
Hunters keep feral in check in 2s
Kyrian + circle is a blast in low arenas
Just macro all my cooldowns into the opener and 1shot people lmao
Yea I made a second Druid to run circle kyrian with a mage buddy. 1800 gremlins
Hrm I guess with conquest boxes it can be alt druid time
yeah kyrian circle is fun.
I wish instead of box it was 300 conquest boa item that rewards 250 conquest. Rng hurts my soul.
That's what I did and my alt is kyrian circle too xD
big bites much fun
Also, it shreds dks to pieces regardless of AMS which is kinda fun 🐱
is it better to kyrian big bites or kyrian big bleeds? cuz i like the circle for kyrian bleed spec but eye of fearful symmetry for bites?
or am i just wrong w/ that
You bite big it's just that it takes you like 7 globals to do 2 bites
Not during berserk. Shred > bite ❤️
Yeah but that's a 2min cd
Why shred > bite during berserk?
cuz after bite you have 2 + 2 per shred = 4 - 5 cp
Oh but just to get to 5 to bite?
I mean, you will have rip on the target already and cuz sabertooth you extend it with each bite so you won't need to rip
and you have rake on the target
I've been doing rake stun, cooldowns, feral frenzy, bite, then build combo points to 5 with brutal slash then bite. Should I be doing it different
So do the same thing but swap that out?
depends
are u at 4cp
dont need to press shred
cuz ull overcap anyways
might aswell just use brs
cuz less energy
or bite with 4
na
biting at 4
was a thing in sinful
with symetry
dont do it outside of that or if u think a 4cp will kill
its not pve so its all situational
NA?
ye
x)
this man is tanking someone elses key
@clear pulsar
comes to shitpost mid key
nice bro
$report
This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.
sad cat is sad that a lot of my info are wrong*
Towards the end of berserk, if you can bite at 4cp and thus get 2 for free cuz zerk, do you do that bite?
or still slash bite?
ye it's not 100%. It's 80, innit?
oh yea
circle*
id just bite at 5 tbh
on my necro I don't bite that often either. And when I do, we know that it ain't the thing that does the most dmg.
whole point of circle kyrian
is like u get big bleed on the zerk/ff go
and u have a bigger bite
Hey all! I’m struggling to come up with easy macros/keybinds for targeting my players and also targeting my arena targets. I feel like I’m out of keybinds already. Any recommendations? My mouse has two buttons
Yea kyrian just emp+tf frenzy goes and every 3 do big zerks
I got an MMO mouse
Is there a way to have a PvP and pve keybind profile?
u can eitehr go with focus or arena123
Top row is arena 1/2/3
i dont use arena 123 personnaly
Second row party 1/2/3
i use party123
I tried all the other suggestions I’ve seen over the years like scroll wheel function keys etc nothing clicked muscle memory wise until mmo mouse
sym?
Yeah I feel the same way
eye of fearful
unfort druid is def very keybind heavy
more so in pvp
Yeah
AH
i dotn have a single place on my bar
Do you guys also keybind cyclone so one is cyclone and one is focus?
I target by using mods
u can also do arena 123 clone
but i started with just focus
and i cant get used to 123 now
Alt = me or arena1
Shift = party1 or arena2
Ctrl = party2 or arena3
Every spell is macrod this way, depending on what type of spell it is ofc
I can't play without clone 123

face sucks
i have clone bound to g, focus clone is shift g, and then i use 1/2/3 macros
#showtooltip Mighty Bash
/tar [nomod] arena1
/cast [@arena1,mod:shift] Cyclone
/focus [mod:ctrl] arena1
/cast [@arena1,mod:alt] Entangling Roots
get out of here pve lord
like that
Problem is I have years of memory of random other spells keybound to the modifiers
it's whatever i feel like at the moment is how i clone lmao
might take more than 1 tbh especially if u got forever muscle memory
but toally worth it
i never take new keybinds in arenas lol
whichever way u do it focus 1/2/3 or arena 1/2/3
or pve unironically
pve is so diff for me. i click cast raid frames and mouseover lmao
yeah i wish i could make UI bigger but that's too hard with raid
too many weakauras timers and the raid frames
raiding weirdchamp
not that bad for a pver
not too spaceship ya?!
use the addon Action Bar Profiles
Do you thrash with clarity proc or not bother?
Wanna know if I was right to use it.
I’ve never used arena 123, probably why I’m not a rank 1
That and I generally don’t play after I unlock all the transmog
after a lot of class switching, I finally found the class / spec I love to play and I wanted (for the first time) to push over 1.8k. Fren dun have fun current season tho, alas cat is alone 
ye i do
Are you saying feral is your spec of choice?
i have a bad habit of pressing thrash too much however
Just hit 1800 in 4 days as rdruid. Feels really good!
gz
I am saying that after doing this rolercoaster: UDK (s1) > WW monk (s1) > SP s1 > break > SP s3 > assa rog s3 > Feral druid
I've never had more fun than I am with feral
always something to improve on
i do want to learn feral one day, maybe on alt
and the potential immense
theres def more u can do on feral than ww or udk
or assa rog. Let's be honest, the toolkit limits you to a sepsis vendetta killing machine
idk man, may be just me but the shit I am doing on feral feel super rewarding all the time. So I made a 2ond to try kyrian too. Not a bad choice
i like feral cuz clone is the best button
It’s just so nice queuing up and everyone wanting to play with you vs. Being a dps
to gage a bad vs a good player
my fav is successful hibernates :3
Feral is really fun but everyone will say your class is bad while also expecting you to completely carry the game
Tru but I don't care what people say if it won't help me improve xD
Well don't worry lots of ppl are open to giving ferals criticism
yet, rarely is it constructive xD
^^






