pvp

[tropic schooner]

so thats 3 buttons

and the cancel one

which would make it 4

[obtuse bramble]

yes

[clear pulsar]

I have 2 keybinds for my forms

Well, C with mod

Nomod is cat is no cat, bear if in cat
Mod is bear if no form, cancel if form

Bis setup

Pls copy

It'll make you rank 1 player

[obtuse bramble]

sounds like it messes you up if mashed one time too often

:D

I am way too bad for these elaborate buttons that cancel everything if pressed twice :D

[tropic schooner]

no travel form had?

[clear pulsar]

O ofc

Travel form is on mount button tho like nothing spesh

[tropic schooner]

wait

so how do you mount

[clear pulsar]

Well

Travel is H, mod H is opie with other mounts

[tropic schooner]

so

2 hotkeys

[grand mesa]

Opie bis

[tropic schooner]

and not the same

[clear pulsar]

Why you keeping tally of this

[tropic schooner]

so people learn to count!

[clear pulsar]

[obtuse bramble]

if I did not count modifiers, I'd be at two buttons here

:P

[tiny oar]

I count my brain cells every day im up to 7 now 🙂

[tropic schooner]

I luckily don't have to count that high

[grand mesa]

7 more than me

[tropic schooner]

Woulda been lost

[tiny oar]

[tropic schooner]

Don't bite

[tiny oar]

[viscid remnant]

Hi

[tiny oar]

HELLO DAVID

HOW R U

[viscid remnant]

okay

[chilly flax]

This is an amazing savage roar emote I must say

[viscid remnant]

yes its very good

[muted edge]

Can I still multi-dot with draught?

[junior plover]

Fair

[junior plover]

You can but it's almost never correct

Better to just not worry bout it

[muted edge]

Oh okay. Once I have honor gear and I'm ready I'll be doing 2s with a mistweaver so that's why I'm asking

[tardy hare]

You dont want to multi dot usually

You want to multi dot even less with a mw

[foggy portal]

is the 9.0.5 guardian guide pinned to the channel stil lcurrent in 9.2?

[tender lantern]

Do you guys only have arena123 macros for like cyclone?

Or do you still keep it bound

on target

[grand mesa]

I have cyclone and roots

I use a macro like this

#showtooltip Mighty Bash
/tar [nomod] arena1
/cast [@arena1,mod:shift] Cyclone
/focus [mod:ctrl] arena1
/cast [@arena1,mod:alt] Entangling Roots

Oh. Yeah I also have everything separately bound lol

[tender lantern]

Huh

I mean like I have cyclone for arena123

[grand mesa]

I misunderstood your question. You’re asking if you have clone separately bound outside of arena 1/2/3 right

[tender lantern]

but should I still have it like

on target

yeah

[grand mesa]

I mean I personally have a normal clone a focus clone and clone 1/2/3

But I’m dumb dumb and revert to different phases of muscle memory so I’ll randomly decide I want to focus clone healer instead of arena targeting when I have to move quickly

[tender lantern]

So it would probably be better just to focus on using the arena123 macros

so I can get them in muscle memory

[grand mesa]

I was a tab/nameplate clicker/raid frame clicker up until this season. Got an MMO mouse and forced myself to learn how to target party and enemies with arena 1/2/3 and party1/2/self. It’s night and day man once you get used to it. And I enjoy arena way more now cause I feel like I have way more control. Totally worth

Sometimes my Corsair bugs out and I lose my targeting and I have to click/tab again for a game and I wonder how the heck I used to play like this all the time lol

[tropic schooner]

Yes

Stuff like darkglare tyrants earth eles etc

Can be very useful to cc

Which you can't at all

[tender lantern]

Do I have to bind moonkin?

I just go into like cat form

Get out

and it doesnt go into moonkin

Dunno why

[tropic schooner]

Cause going out of catform isn't going into chicken

[obtuse bramble]

and then you just want to tabtarget that damn capacitor and it doesn't work

[grand mesa]

I just accept my fate

[tender lantern]

When I try it out of combat it does

[grand mesa]

😂

[tender lantern]

or like when I tried it in general

it would go back when I go out of the form I went intop

[tropic schooner]

No chance

Something else happened

[tender lantern]

Oh that's right I forgot

I need to edit this macro

I did this for both my cat and bear form macros
/cast Bear Form
/cast Moonkin Form

So that if I press it while in that form it goes into moonkin

But sometimes I find myself outside of moonkin form and I don't know why

[tropic schooner]

Eh

Not sure if that macro works

[tender lantern]

Well it works when I try it

It even works going from bear to cat

[tropic schooner]

I'd put a stance check

On it

[tender lantern]

How do I do that

[tropic schooner]

Am on phone so kinda sucks but should be noform

Or nostance

So sth like /cast [nostance:1] bear form; moonkin form

[tardy hare]

Most of it probably ye, not sure about honor talents. Not played rbgs this season

[zealous vale]

Is there a focus macro for entangling roots plus solar beam cuz when i tried one it used beam first and they guy just walk out of it 😂

[tardy hare]

only mass entangle

else no

[lime light]

EP in hospital

[viscid remnant]

[lime light]

since thursday

[viscid remnant]

what happened?

[lime light]

car accident

[viscid remnant]

are u okay

[stray sigil]

u guys think well get more druid races

for next xpac

[viscid remnant]

ye panda druid

orc druid

undead druid

[stray sigil]

pog

[viscid remnant]

very epic

[stray sigil]

no dwarf?

or human

[viscid remnant]

gnome

[stray sigil]

ok gnome i dont mind

i want dwarf david

[viscid remnant]

granted

[stray sigil]

ty based david

[bitter harness]

let's play RBGs again

_>

[tardy hare]

not in this season

[safe heart]

Nightborne druid

[sly marsh]

Manasaber cat pls yes

[grand mesa]

mechagnome druid, robot forms

🙂

[tender lantern]

Dragon form

[misty shuttle]

what's the play vs rogue when they use cloak evasion?

[clear pulsar]

Win the game 10s later

Wdym

[stray sigil]

what if he is outlaw

what then @clear pulsar

[twilit siren]

gcd possibly

[haughty compass]

Bruh

[flat imp]

they still havent fixed the fucking Mind Control disconnections mid game

[polar nymph]

I don't think they can, it's been in the game since at least WoD

[flat imp]

It was in MoP too

i mean if they're that incompetent to fix that they should just get rid of the freakign spell entirely

[polar nymph]

No

It's the most fun spell in the game

[flat imp]

if its broken it doesnt matter how fun it is

[polar nymph]

A lot of spells cause the same outcome

[flat imp]

feels like fkin 2009 flyhacker mind controling me and sending me to scarlet monastery

[polar nymph]

Fel Rush, Slow Fall, etc.

[flat imp]

never had any otehr than mind control so i cant tell

[polar nymph]

Jumping in the wrong spot 😛

[flat imp]

i've never had such thing happen

[signal arrow]

Also rolling as monk on stars can sometimes DC you

Fun times

[polar nymph]

MC can also DC the Priest casting it too

[signal arrow]

Never encountered that ^^ whenever I see a mindcontrol DC it's always the person getting controlled

[polar nymph]

Most of the time yeah, sometimes I get DC'd though 😛

I once MC'd someone off the bridge in Blade's Edge back in WoD and it DC'd me

Managed to get back in in time though

[signal arrow]

Lmao that's crazy

[polar nymph]

I feel like if they redid the ground textures in the game there'd be less of this stuff going on.

[signal arrow]

eh no idea what is causing the bug so idk if that would fix it ^^ I don't think even Blizzard knows or they would've fixed it by now

[grand mesa]

Man you dc moving right when you land from a flight point lol

[livid wasp]

cat form charge causes it too

at least you can insta reconnect nowadays instead of having to press x and restart wow to quickly get in

[tiny oar]

Good morning

[safe heart]

6pm ??????

[tiny oar]

I love when I wild charge and disconnect from the fucking game

[tiny oar]

I work nights in NA lol

[tropic schooner]

but there is no wild charge in tbc

or well there is

but you dont DC from that one

[tiny oar]

Tbc so nice no getting dced when a priest MCs me

[tropic schooner]

still undecided if I wanna try buying glaives for my rogue

or not

[tiny oar]

Rofl how much do glaives cost like fucking 10k gold?

[tropic schooner]

30k

each

aprox

10k Id buy insta

[tiny oar]

Holy fuck lol

I dont even have 5k gold for swift flight form how tf u got 60k

[tropic schooner]

I dont think atm I have like 20k ish

I like the AH

its fun

think I made 10k profit by literally reselling greater planars

by insta reposting not keeping them

[tiny oar]

Damb guess I need to do that

I do my honor dailies on a ground mount still feel like such a fucking noob

[safe heart]

My hwl druid retired to a farm in the Barrens
He can't fight any longer

[grand mesa]

Jesus Christ that’s a lot of gold

Is arena better in tbc. I completely missed arena lol. Quit after vanilla and didn’t come back until mop then bfa

@tiny oar

Also good evening 😂

[tiny oar]

idk im giving it a try this ssn but it feels rly different from retail rotation isnt as intricate and it feels like the playstyle im supposed to be doing is a bit different

[grand mesa]

I’ve been watching minpojke it’s much slower

[tiny oar]

u like dont even use cat abilities at all and theres no maim stuns which feels rly wack and bad

[vagrant tiger]

My fury bud and I are on a 2s quest to get 1800ish for now and we are at 1550 or so and doing fine. Debating on what’s generally stronger right now - feral/fury or resto/fury. We’ve been doing resto and seem to be almost perfect against other heal comps but the double dps comps are sometimes a little overwhelming.

[grand mesa]

Fury healer is p good

[vagrant tiger]

I’m a little concerned feral will be squishy and fury does enough damage it seems to be hard to stop as long as I keep hots up and try to cc/not be cc’d

[grand mesa]

Fury can be an oppressive menace by itself

I’m biased as healer but I think you’d maybe get more mileage doing fury resto and figure out how to live the double dps opener

[tiny oar]

yea fury rdruid to the moon

[polar nymph]

Gotta love it when I hit Berserk and a Ret hits BLINDING LIGHT on the entire enemy team and removes everything I just put up 😡

[safe heart]

If I get 1800 in rbgs on ally do I get the legacy mogs for horde too

Or do I have to play whorde

[viscid remnant]

Because swapping forms cost mana idont rly like tbc

Its so boring

Tbc in general is pretty boring

[tiny oar]

yea this is the worst thing about it lol

[viscid remnant]

And when u go in for cc instead of afk healing max range

Dodge parry resist

[tropic schooner]

depends what you like about arenas/dislike

its a lot more rng in tbc

like not even compareable

which personally I dislike but I dont get furious if I lose due to randomness so its okay

what I like about it is that, unlike recent wow expansions cds are not that big of a thing

you can die outside cds very easily

and cds dont make you immortal

unlike todays wow

also tbc game balance is WAY WAY WAY worse

compared to now

[grand mesa]

oh the balance is worse too?

[tropic schooner]

yes ofc

its not close

And one more thing which is the thing I prolly dislike the most: arena teams

Can't just go ahead and play with whomever easily

[safe heart]

Yeah classic was trash

[grand mesa]

doesn't seem that worth tbh

[tropic schooner]

I don't find it trash

[safe heart]

If you weren't a dps warrior or a rogue you had 0 fun

[grand mesa]

for me atleast

[tropic schooner]

I have fun

[grand mesa]

maybe wotlk will be better

[tropic schooner]

But there for sure are issues

[safe heart]

I played up till p6 burnt out really hard right after I got hwl

The mana for shifting killed all enjoyment for me

[tropic schooner]

Oh you mean actual classic

[viscid remnant]

Classic as dps warr was fun af

[tropic schooner]

And if you got r14

I'm not surprised lil

[safe heart]

Yeah I can't talk about tbc cuz I stopped at p6

[tropic schooner]

Lol

[safe heart]

Yeah I did hwl on my druid
Which was fun

But then I left that to try and raid

As mono cat

And uh
It wasn't great

[tropic schooner]

Well if you play a troll specc

It be that way

[safe heart]

Well It's the only thing I wanted to play and I knew it wasn't great

[tropic schooner]

Actual feral dps wasn't that bad

Yea it wasn't bad but wasn't great

Was like okat

Okay

[safe heart]

It just sucked world buffing and pot spamming just to be 8th on dps or lower

[tropic schooner]

8th pretty good

[safe heart]

8th wasn't common for me haha

Also half the time I'd get cleaved by the fat bois in the first pull and lose all my buffs

My last raid ever I got every buff , showed up, literally got cleaved first pull and just told raid leader to replace me and I stopped playing

It also didn't help that I got forced into playing horde which I didn't want to do at all

[grand mesa]

9.2.5 is release candidate

finally get to go NE soon 🙂

[safe heart]

Did they announce something?

[grand mesa]

the PTR build is RC

so it should drop soon

i remember there was some 9.2.5 pvp tuning way back i don't remember what it was tho

[safe heart]

Buff feral

Nightborne druid

Remove orc

Hunter is dlc hero class for 59.99

Blizzard should add a new thing to cash shop that let's you play any race with any class

[tiny oar]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BoredAwkwardToothCorgiDerp-a56t2Oz-O_yJWQlQ this game is FUCKING UNREAL MAN

[grand mesa]

good lord

[tiny oar]

i wasted a bark but like i dont think it even woulda saved em LOL

[grand mesa]

the dbl bolt is obnoxious

[split nymph]

Could anyone point me in the right direction as far as Guardian PvP Guides?

[surreal heron]

try the pins

[haughty compass]

Anyone run kitty cleave recently?

[stray sigil]

LMFAO

[haughty compass]

The fucking spin you did sent me LOL

[kind bane]

Hey guys I’m new to balance Druid and made one to just troll around in bgs. I’m wondering which talents cov and soulbind offer the best burst to “one shot” somebody from stealth. Can anybody please give me an idea on what to do thank you

[stone breach]

night fae boomy. mighty bash -> incarn -> convoke

night fae feral is a lot better at what you're trying to do though

[kind bane]

Thank you for your response I’ll try them both out

[stray sigil]

@safe heart idk if its helpful or not but i saw ur post in ww discord

keefers isnt the same as alpha tigers like its a debuff on the target not s buff on u

when i started i would focus super hard in the buffs looking at it but alpha tiger is like just hit w.e u can to try to keep it up as much as possible

if u play with fist of the white tiger u just fist palm with images and thats ur keefers go

after that with the wa i gave u u can just spam palm to ur hearts content

its weird but the less u think of it the easier it gets if that makes sense

[stray sigil]

thats pre 4p

diff after 4p obviously

[safe heart]

That is helpful actually
I've been Ike mindfucking myself trying to track that shit

I like don't tigers palm until I sweep basically so I don't fuck up and I like don't ever have chi

[scenic prism]

prio 4set in pvp?

[kind bane]

Is moonkin aura good for bgs? I thought crit is kinda frowned upon in pvp setting

[clear pulsar]

Picking pieces of gear is a different tradeoff than picking different pvp talents

Also crit isnt frowned upon in pvp, it's a bit nerfed and just the weakest secondary for boomie

It's still damage, and there are specs with crit interactions in their toolkit that like crit.

[covert chasm]

Anyone know what causing this

[clear pulsar]

Been getting random lua errors since 9.2 as well

[covert chasm]

This is all the time….

[clear pulsar]

Told it's 'taint' and each time I get a taint log pointing to an addon, disable that addon, get it again a bit later

Do you have friendly nameplates on?

[covert chasm]

Nop

[clear pulsar]

For me what triggers it is friendly nameplates in dungeons and raid

Being on

Check your logs folder in wow directory

See if any errors log there help

[covert chasm]

Yeah i think it appears when i mouse over a friendly player or an enemy

[main roost]

get BugSack and BugGrabber and never worry about lua errors again ^____________^

[hollow matrix]

is convoke + Timeworn leg bad?

[fallow root]

Why do RBG bears go night fae

[tropic schooner]

Blink is good

[delicate marsh]

Is the only way to get the world boss legendaries waiting or gambling?

[void galleon]

Is convoke just doo doo now in pvp? I got to renown 80 and it seems like most other balance druids in pvp aren't using it

[safe heart]

Convoking with the cc immune trinket sorta works but yeah kyrian is better by alot

[void galleon]

Guess I could go Kyrian and get to 40 with that item or whatever

[stray sigil]

ye i had that problem too st first

u build ur 4p stacks on pets/totems or the other person so u just save the palm

but playing with it will make it look a look less daunting

looks way harder than it is

[signal arrow]

I feel that lol when I play vs higher rated monks they go off target first and swap when big burst is ready

[viscid remnant]

@lime light are u ok

[stray sigil]

@lime light where r u patrob

[viscid remnant]

he said he is in the hospital since thursday because of a car crash

[grand mesa]

I got the same thing. Narrowed it down to BigDebuffs I think

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it probably is

[grand mesa]

Compact unit frame:1122?

When you turn on friendly nameplate?

[clear pulsar]

El Patron of Dreamgrove will come thru as our leader and take us back up to the top soon

[viscid remnant]

his return was foretold and shall be legendary

[grand mesa]

Honestly if I have to choose between big debuffs or friendly nameplates I don’t need friendly nameplates. I must have big debuffs 😂

[clear pulsar]

I did download the beta branch that says fixes taint from bigdebuffs. Didnt fix. Im not on pc atm cant check that its exactly this, but yeah that was the first addon being pointed to on my taint log.

But

It only happens in pve instances when I turn on nameplates. Which is hilarious cuz those nameplates arent even affected by addons.

[grand mesa]

Yup same here

@woven moss keep going in here

The ward and the hot are separate

You want to swiftmend extend the hot

Not the initial 30s buff

[woven moss]

so you can have the ward up and the HoT up if you extended both correct?

[clear pulsar]

No

The ward isnt a 'bubble'

You dont extend both

[grand mesa]

You need the person to be hit get the hot then extend it with VI

The ward isn’t really a bubble. It’s just a 30s window to trigger the 8s hot if they get hit

[clear pulsar]

Casting CW puts up a latent buff. All it does is trigger the heal over time once they take damage. It doesnt absorb anything, it disappears once it gets triggered. You cant extend it.
You extend the hot.

[grand mesa]

The 8s hot is what matters. It pumps healing and can’t be purged

[woven moss]

they should just make it a bubble, like the icon is a frkn bubble 🤷‍♂️

[grand mesa]

That’s what you want to extend

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

fook

[grand mesa]

He dropped by here and it sounds like he’s doing ok. Hope he gets out quick

[clear pulsar]

Arent you unitedstatian?

How did he drop by there, tian is polaski chad not beta mcdonalder

[grand mesa]

In this chat 😂

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

But yes I am one with Freedom

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/kkaper-by-gapbl4-gif-7722243

[fallow root]

Idk I go necro when I boomkin

[signal arrow]

Supatease would be proud

[fallow root]

Yeah I mean I just go boomkin in BGs, rot the whole team down

Supa is Kyrian rn I think

[signal arrow]

Probably haha but he was the only one advocating necro boomie last patch :D

[fallow root]

I always thought Venthyr bear would be good in RBG?

Big incarn dam

[hollow matrix]

Is venthyr only good for pve?

[signal arrow]

For bear or in general?

[grand mesa]

omg im free

i finally got this stupid scythe

[void galleon]

Is balance like way worse than feral in arena? I finally have some decent gear and would like to push some rating in 2s and 3s and I am currently balance

[hollow matrix]

bear/ general

[signal arrow]

Wooow man congratz that transmog is so sick

[signal arrow]

I mean if you want the honest answer : yes

but pretty much anything is playable up to Rank 1 level with dedication I guess

[grand mesa]

yeah man

i know alot of people wear this but i just love the way it looked

been trying for shoulders and scythe for a while

[signal arrow]

I still don't have the scythe 😦

Can you do the raid without doing the questline first for argus?

[grand mesa]

yeah

but i had to get summoned there on alts

[signal arrow]

Are there groups for it?

[grand mesa]

u can solo it tbh

i just bullied my friends to summon me lol

[signal arrow]

Hahaha alright

Maybe I'll kill the guy on my monk and druid later

And hope it drops

[stray sigil]

f u

[grand mesa]

love me

[stray sigil]

167 kills no scythe

blue or red

231 lfr

[grand mesa]

i got the blue early

[stray sigil]

XD

[grand mesa]

ugh that's tragic bro

it'll come

[tender lantern]

What do you do if you're poly'd/feared/hexed

[safe heart]

That's depends on so many things

But if you're poly'd or hex'd as a druid that's pretty bad

[tender lantern]

I mean I'm playing with a healer

a paladin

but when I get like feared I just don't know what to do

they just both go on my healer and it's ahrd to save them

[safe heart]

Well it depends
Is your healer stunned while you're feared and he has no cds? Then you should trinket and save him

[grand mesa]

How are you getting Poly’d if you’re not the healer?

[tender lantern]

Well it's mostly fear

but it's the same thing really

Like I was with the healer vs an arms warrior and a holy priest

they just start going on him

he jukes them

[safe heart]

Well not really, it should be nearly impossible to poly you as a druid

[tender lantern]

the priest runs to me and does the scream that fears me

Yeah true since I can't be polyd while shapeshifted

I just meant that kind of effect

[grand mesa]

Are you boomkin?

[tender lantern]

Yeah

[grand mesa]

So one thing is you shouldn’t play on top of your healer

[tender lantern]

I tried that in the second game which we faced against the same comp

[safe heart]

So if you're feared while they kill your healer, your healer either needs to use a cd to save himself , dispel the fear off you so you don't have to trinket , if he's not dying then just wait it out

[tender lantern]

I figured if they feared me they could wake me up with some aoe

[safe heart]

You shouldn't trinket the fear unless they are popping cds on your no-trinket healer while he's stunned

[tender lantern]

I checked the rankings for what high rank players use

[safe heart]

But it's not like a clear cut do this when that

It highly depends on that moment

[tender lantern]

And they don't use medallion

like the get out of cc trinket

[safe heart]

Yeah they probably use the cc immune trinket if it's 2s

Because boomie is really bad in 2s

So they rely on convoke 1 shot

If you're playing the cc immune trinket then your healer better just live on his own

But if you use medallion , just consider if giving up your medallion to clone the dps or root them etc is worth it

[grand mesa]

Try to play farther out from your healer too

So your healer doesn’t get caught in cc accidentally

[tender lantern]

I might be playing the wrong build

[signal arrow]

Aren't high ranked boomies usually Kyrian?

[tender lantern]

I basically copied rudar's build but that's for 3s

I don't use convoke since I'm kyrian

And I'm using echoing resolve

[signal arrow]

I mean I never really faced Boomie in 2's but whenver I did it was a kyrian

[viral granite]

what leggo for feralo pvp

[safe heart]

Yeah you should be kyrian as a boomie

[safe heart]

Nf or necro or kyrian

Natural orders will for nf
Draught for necro
Symmetry or circle for kyrian

[viral granite]

why natural order for nf

does it work with voke

[safe heart]

Because nothing else synergizes with convoke and being tankier as nf is way more valuable in helping you never die while you work through their cds with 1m convokes

[mental crypt]

I hate so much playing against fury healer as feral
That's insane the pressure they put

[safe heart]

There's no reason to take extra damage
You can play like frenzyband or draught if you really want strictly damage legos but it's a waste

Frenzyband does hilariously low amount of cdr and having beefier rake rips as nf is just whatever when you can only kill ppl with convoke anyway

So having extra survivability to get more convokes out is the play

[viral granite]

does frenzy buff tier bleed

[mental crypt]

Is there any tips how to deal with healer fury
As feral/healer

[signal arrow]

I don't think so Sickle doesn't give you combopoints right?

[signal arrow]

Fury is really strong atm I think best thing you can do is spam root on him as much as possible use thorns intelligently and don't let him have too much uptime

Fury warrior can be really oppressive if they can stay on target but if you can get them off of you to reset their healing reduction it's usually fine to outheal

[mental crypt]

so basically i should focus the healer and spam cc the war as much as i can?

[signal arrow]

Depends on the healer but I would do a maim go on your kill target and then get out ASAP can also go for the warrior but you need to run after your stun chain is over

Unless he is in kill range of course

You just won't out dps a fury warrior if you are both hitting each other

[viral granite]

which trinket from a new deal for nf

[signal arrow]

the one that makes you immune to 2 CC's

If you wanna stay NF

With 3 min Cooldown

[safe heart]

Frenzyband does not

[tender lantern]

Which defensive cd is my like

wall

[signal arrow]

Barkskin

But if you're feral you also have Survival Instinct

[tender lantern]

As a boomie

It feels like I'm missing something to help me survive if enemies jump on me

Or what do I really do when two people jump me?

[signal arrow]

I don't play boomie in PvP so take this with a grain of salt, but I would probably try to CC 1 target off of you with Roots / Cyclones / Mighty bash etc. and then focus on the other target

[tepid spoke]

Kite and cc and consider using naturals orders will lego on some matchups

[void galleon]

Is balance gear ok for switchign to feral if get a weapon or is it trash?

[tepid spoke]

Also your healer choice is gonna do a lot

If you play with smth like resto sham you are kinda doomed

[signal arrow]

No matter what class you play if you play with a resto shamy you are lost

[safe heart]

You want more mastery than haste as necro and obviously make sure you gear actually has agility

But should be similar enough

[rare willow]

yeah thats how i like playing it. root x 3, incap roar, bash, cyclone x 3 and root is off DR so with perfect play you could just indefinitely control the warrior. Obviously, 100% perfect control on the warrior wont happen, but you can really really limit how much they get to play the game. and otherwise you and your teammate just run at the other healer and will eventually score a kill.

[safe heart]

Whats this flarkness apology about

[stray sigil]

just flark getting exposed for being a shitty person

who woulda thought

[safe heart]

Ah okay thought there was some scandal or some shit

[tiny oar]

i mean we knew that rite

[stray sigil]

i mean flark is the biggest joke on twitch no cap

[safe heart]

I don't play dk so

[grand mesa]

He rage whispered some dude pretty toxic

Guy posted on Twitter

You can guess what happened after lol

[stray sigil]

flark also the guy who plays dk tank comps

to r1

cuz hes actually a meme

[grand mesa]

I tuned in recently couldn’t last a few minutes

[stray sigil]

just an egoistical person

[grand mesa]

How can you do viewer games then be so nasty and toxic to the players and be so mad that they’re not that great

[stray sigil]

shittalks everyone

low cr and shit

idk

[grand mesa]

Yeah oh well 🤷‍♂️

[tiny oar]

some ppl are cringe and not based oh well

what can u do

[stray sigil]

kinda hilarious

his stream title sonme like i am reformed shit

and he does that the same day or so

LOL

[sour sinew]

youre based

[tiny oar]

aw thx erhmer!! 💚

[stray sigil]

wheere where

icould use a good laugh

[tiny oar]

rofl

[clear pulsar]

His voice real deep in this video

Cuz it's a deep apology

You feel me?

[stray sigil]

holy shit

i am cringing out of my mind

holy shit hs is so dislikable

its crazy lmfoa

[hollow matrix]

is convoke garbage in arena? for boomie?

[stray sigil]

outside of 2s cheese

mostly yes

[hollow matrix]

fuck man

is it hard to get 80 renown?

[safe heart]

Not only is it easy , it barely matters

[safe heart]

@stray sigil is dance of chi ji bugged?

[stray sigil]

wdym bugged

@safe heart

[safe heart]

i swear i proc chi ji like 1x a day

if that

[stray sigil]

rng is rng

sometimes u proc it 3 times in a row in bonedust

and u insta kill someone

sometimes it never procs

[rare willow]

gum says if you relog between matches it resets the ppm but im 99% sure hes full of shit

[stray sigil]

never heard of that

its all rng who knows

[safe heart]

just feel like i literally never proc ever

[grand mesa]

Sounds like tinfoil juju

[stray sigil]

some ppl play combo strikes or w.e its called on the same riow

cuz they dont like the rng aspect of it

i like chiji cuz its some cheese 1 shots if u get it lol

fish for a proc and then u do ur go

either they die or u get everything

[safe heart]

oh i just thought chi ji was alot better

[stray sigil]

ud def gimp urself a bit but like idk some wws play combo strike thing

tyga does cuz he hates chiji

[kind bane]

What’s the best slot for unity on balance pvp

[tardy hare]

doesn't really matter, most seem to have it on belt legs or neck

[hidden sparrow]

ilvl > vers for guardian pvp?

[eager leaf]

hey guys, im looking for a WA/addon that helps me track Infected Wounds stacks from the feral mortal strike pvp talent. anyone got anything i can use?

[signal arrow]

Top Windwalkers started playing hit combo

Actually nevermind it's pretty mixed about 50/50

Between Hit Combo and Chi Ji

[clear pulsar]

It definitely doesnt look 50/50

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/pvp/filter/results?class=monk&spec=windwalker&leaderboards=3v3&cr-bracket=3v3&current-rating=2400
Can filter to 2700 and it's 1 out of 8 running hit combo

[signal arrow]

Honestly I just checked the top 6 I saw 3 are running it and said 50/50 🤣

[tender lantern]

What do you do against like a ret

He went ham on me with the offensive cds

[signal arrow]

Can you do a filter like that on checkpvp aswell?

[tender lantern]

I cycloned him, he trinketed, I cycloned him again, he used something I think it was bof

then he's immune to my bash

And he just kills me

[signal arrow]

He can't get out of cyclone if he doesn't trinket or bubble

Maybe he played with Priest who mass dispelled it

[clear pulsar]

Custom-pvp's stat page is a bit lacking, so not really

[signal arrow]

Dang :/ it's my go to website for PvP stuff

[tender lantern]

oh yeah I didn't think about that

[clear pulsar]

They're both just looking at armories bro it's the same data

[tender lantern]

He did have a priest

[signal arrow]

Then probably mass dispell

[clear pulsar]

Did you maybe only check 2s or something?

[signal arrow]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

Just diff players in the top 10 then yeah

Try to drag the ret around pillars and just run whenever they have wings up

They still hit from like 15yd and can be harder than you'd think to kite but you gotta do it

[tender lantern]

Yeah I probably could have kited him

I was playing solo shuffle since I'm grinding for gear

I was the target mostly

[grand mesa]

If ur the undergeared guy in solo shuffle you’re gonna get railed

[signal arrow]

what spec are you?

[tender lantern]

Balance

I mean I was able to survive a few of those rounds

even with like 2 people on me

But I was surprised how the paladin went through all that cc

[signal arrow]

eh if I was an overgeared pala in a solo shuffle I'd just bubble the first cc and oneshot someone lmao

Solo shuffle is not really the same Arena experience as when you play ladder ^^

[clear pulsar]

Solo shuffle is so much fun when there's actual parity tho

Most of the time it's the healer mismatch that decides games I feel

[grand mesa]

I’m really excited for ranked

I think it’s actually a pretty good game mode

[clear pulsar]

Especially when I heal I lose like 5 at least

Yeah I really like the format

And I'm just excited to have solo queue ranked that I can log in, queue up, grind

[grand mesa]

I think it’s elegant for solving the “I have this wtf comp and queued into RMP”

[signal arrow]

Yeah usually it's 6 wins 1 healer 0 wins other healer lol

And everyone else 3

[grand mesa]

If there’s someone with 50k hp it’s like 3-3

Everyone just rails the undergeared dude

[tender lantern]

if there's two undergeared people

it's funny when there's 1 of each in a team

[grand mesa]

Totally agree

[signal arrow]

But as Rdruid that's my secret I just put all hots on the undergeared guy before they even attack him

[grand mesa]

I think too much of wow is waiting for 4 people or 19 people to meaningfully play the game

Atleast pve side and pvp too I guess with 1-2 friends

[signal arrow]

Pretty true

SoloQ mode would be sick

[clear pulsar]

Yeah pvp is even worse, in m+ you at least get 30-40 mins of play for each group formed

In arena you invite some dude, lose 2 games in 10 mins and they're gone

[grand mesa]

I’ll just go full pve again than engage with the LFG tbh

LFG took

Tool

Love arena it’s what’s keeping me from being super raid log but cba to look for rando partners lol

[signal arrow]

Pugging arenas is terrible 80% of the time I only play with PvE Guildies / Friends nowadays LFG is really hit or miss

But usually more miss than hit

But I did meet my 2's partner who I climbed with through LFG so eh sometimes you hit aswell

[clear pulsar]

We could be partners

Wait you mean like arena partners

Sorry

[signal arrow]

the double feral dream

[clear pulsar]

I need to just sit down and game at some point tho for sure

Havent pushed any rating all season, even last season I just got my duelist early on and never queued again

[grand mesa]

I’ve tried to play and understand feral like several times this expansion

[signal arrow]

Same as me lul I pushed elite and then only play 3's

[clear pulsar]

And after hitting 3k in m+ I barely want to push too cuz the pugs that invite me are all garbanzo beans I feel

[grand mesa]

3k isn’t much now. There’s been too many push weeks u have no clue what ur gonna get haha

Pug wise

[clear pulsar]

Like look at this, this hunter was decked out in 278 gear

[grand mesa]

That’s so trag

[clear pulsar]

The abundance, balance aff, incarn, inner peace rdruid was the best of these pugs

And he got mad when I told him his whole covenant and talent setup was holding him back

[signal arrow]

Hahaha that was the picture you posted a few days ago

I remember that one kekW

[grand mesa]

Huh

[clear pulsar]

Hunter and lock combined for half as many interrupts as me

[grand mesa]

No shot a Druid played that in keys

[clear pulsar]

Swear to God my brother

[signal arrow]

Hahaha I also said " maybe he is still in raid talents"

[grand mesa]

That’s insane

[signal arrow]

But Face posted a screenshot in the resto channel XD

[grand mesa]

Atleast cen ward. I can understand NF for some folks

They just like the comfy convoke button

Even if it’s worse

[clear pulsar]

No cen ward, no spring blossoms as you can see

Look at tree uptime

Abundance at the top too I guess

He was fine, didnt get hit by stupid shit, did the maze while we killed trash so we never lost time, etc

The tank literally ran into foxes for some reason

On mistcaller

Like AMS and run into them

[grand mesa]

Is that a thing

[clear pulsar]

When it was CCd 20yd away from anyone

[signal arrow]

You can soak them

[clear pulsar]

It was the funniest thing I ever saw

[signal arrow]

With AMS

But if someone is near you stun them

lul

[clear pulsar]

He got stunned and died once cuz his AMS wasnt up yet for another 5s

He died to patty cake after

[signal arrow]

just Icebound fortitude

[clear pulsar]

I cant begin to describe how hysterical I was

[signal arrow]

Hahaha

[clear pulsar]

Druid was the only one I said anything to after run

Cuz I want my tree buddies to do better

[signal arrow]

I feel that man but I feel like a lot of players don't want to take advice 😅 especially if it's about talents / covenant etc. and not about gameplay

Atleast that's my experience when I play my blood DK I also tend to invite Rdruids because I feel like they're my tree bros but if I tell them that most top Rdruids play Necro they get toxic ^^

[grand mesa]

Never try to take convoke away from a NF rdruid

The big vein in their forehead gets huge

😂

[clear pulsar]

I'll show you a big vein getting huge

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

I’ve found a new way to magically explode in arena

Vesper totem. Haven’t really run into it before until yesterday

[signal arrow]

Haha

[tardy hare]

Just pop defensives in the 6-7 globals warming up the totem

[tiny oar]

I try killing it but they can just move it like 40y away for some reason

[signal arrow]

I already faced that stuff last season it's definetly a cheese build

They do 0 dmg outside their vesper burst

[muted edge]

Is necro good in 2s with a healer?

For feral

[clear pulsar]

Yeah they drop it behind a pillar and pop 2 spells on it, then place it on top of you, pop the 3rd and one deag your ass

[signal arrow]

Yeah

[obtuse bramble]

yes

but auto loss against SV

[muted edge]

Gotcha

[signal arrow]

But it does barely enough to oneshot in my experience if you use 0 defensives

So with defensives you should survive every time

[muted edge]

Luckily I have bgs i need to farm on my fresh 60 so I relearn how to play it again

[clear pulsar]

Oh yeah it's not a literal oen shot

But it's a lot of damage

That can be hard to see coming if you dont know what it does

[grand mesa]

Yeah just caught me off guard

[signal arrow]

Yeah that's the gimmick with these cheese builds usually ^^

When they become popular they are less viable

[clear pulsar]

The totem has like 6k hp so most ppl can kill it in one global

[signal arrow]

Because people know how to counter it / expect it

[clear pulsar]

Primordial wave is just so huge for rsham too that you definitely miss it

[grand mesa]

So they drop it forever away warm it up then move it on top of their kill is that right

[signal arrow]

Yep

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's the leggo that does a big burst when they pop a 3rd charge of vesper

[signal arrow]

And usually they put sky fury too

[grand mesa]

Oh good

They nerfed trinkets for pvp

Just the pve ones

😂

[signal arrow]

Whoot? Which ones got nerfed?

[grand mesa]

Random Shit like reactive defense matrix

[signal arrow]

Ah alright

[clear pulsar]

Oh yeah for new season

[grand mesa]

9.2.5 confuses me. So 9.2.5 isn’t the start of the new season if it’s already in release candidate. Hall of fame hasn’t even closed. So they’re just going to enable s4 stuff in the middle of that patch?

[signal arrow]

I'm confused by that aswell I heard people will still get cutting edge / hall of fame etc. but we still get a new patch?

Kinda weird but eh will that also mean they patch in cross faction?

If they do I'm leveling my Nightelf Druid right now lol

[grand mesa]

I’m faction transferring insta when 9.2.5 comes out lol

[clear pulsar]

I think they just forget about HOF

But it hasnt even been 3 months of this raid

[grand mesa]

That’s what I’m saying

[clear pulsar]

So it'd be really weird for a 11 boss raid for have 4 months of time to get CE on

[grand mesa]

Echo got world first mar 27

That isn’t too long ago

[clear pulsar]

Sanctum lasted almost 8 months

[signal arrow]

Yeah most cutting edge guilds won't get cutting edge this tier if you can't get it after 9.2.5 (including our guild) but I think they already said you can still get it

[clear pulsar]

I think what they said is 9.2.5 wont be the start of new season yet yeah

[grand mesa]

I’m almost 400 pulls in on anduin

And I want to fucking kill msyelf

[clear pulsar]

'-' did you swap guilds mid boss?

[signal arrow]

hahaha we're also progging anduin right now

But we have nowhere near as many pulls

[grand mesa]

Nah same guild

It’s easy to rack up pull count when u fuck up first set of blasphemies and average 55 wipes a night

[signal arrow]

Could be worse should I tell you why we wiped the first progress night?

[clear pulsar]

I think you're crazy

Wclogs says 245 pulls

On anduin

[signal arrow]

People downstairs always died because adds did not get CC'd and we of course blamed the people upstairs that they can't aim their cap totem / Shadowfury etc. well it turns out people have been pulling the stars through the adds so they are CC immune kekW

[clear pulsar]

I mean you might still hit 400 siunce you arent particularly close to the kill but

[grand mesa]

Oh I was going by bigwig counts 😂

[signal arrow]

but how do you handle blasphemy @grand mesa do you also have fixed positions?

[grand mesa]

Yea. It’s figured out now lol

[signal arrow]

We didn't really struggle with it since we gave everyone a fixed position where they have to be when it starts

Ah alright ^^

[clear pulsar]

That's unlucky, your other bosses pull counts dont look particularly insane so

Being so behind on anduin is crazy

This is an acquaintance's guild last patch, they got CE on the last week

[signal arrow]

Oof 645 pulls

[grand mesa]

Just not the type of boss we’re good at

🤷‍♂️

[clear pulsar]

Yeah they took 73 pulls to kill xymox it looks like

Only 67 on pantheon and 34 on desausage

[signal arrow]

Where can I see pull count? 🤔 trying to check ours from last tier on Wowprogress but can't find it

[clear pulsar]

Throw it on progstats.io

[signal arrow]

That worked thank you 👍

[haughty compass]

That exact reason is why I stopped mythic raiding the same expac I started lol

[grand mesa]

Oh DSR ultimate?

Yeah idk if I have the mental for that. Those ultimates are like 20 min fights too

[fiery hatch]

It’s a sad day when the PvP channel turns into raid talk 😂

[grand mesa]

Yea…. My b 😂

[clear pulsar]

Raid talk > 0 activity

[tiny oar]

I remember the days when this was rippers only chat

Sad times

[clear pulsar]

Also raid talk > random bg mains talking about playing guardian

[grand mesa]

Or something something frenzyband

[viscid remnant]

[haughty compass]

Frenzyband enjoyer

[viscid remnant]

Me when someone asks about frenzyband for the 4783389586th time

[grand mesa]

I don’t even know what it even does I just know from chat here that it is definitely not good

😂

[haughty compass]

Pad damage fake cdr leggo

I have it on my wrists 🤣🤣🤣

[clear pulsar]

It just needs convoke to do any type of decent damage but like

If you get a full convoke off how is target not dead!?!?!?!

And people wanna play it as kyrian or something

Which is like 20k dmg over 28s of bleed

[signal arrow]

Your combo point generators make the target bleed for 10 dmg or something oh and you get 5 seconds off of your berserk it's a huge dmg increase /s

[tender lantern]

How do you like

as a balance druid, how do you balance out dealing damage and ccing?

Sometimes it feels like I'm just trying to cc and end up not doing enough damage

When I do try to deal a lot of damage I'm the one getting cc'd

[foggy portal]

It seems that the meta for Guardian Druids in RBG is to go boomkin on a few maps (temple). Is it viable to go feral in those instances instead of boomkin?

[regal nymph]

Not viable, teams are always looking for boomy

[tender lantern]

So uh, incarnation chosen of elune increases the critical strike stat?

Whenever I go into it the critical strike doesn't raise

[clear pulsar]

Boomie is particularly better in temple for sure, but calling any 1 spec 'not viable' in RBGs is pretty silly. Feral's fine.

[foggy portal]

Thanks.

[regal nymph]

You can use feral yes, for example to kill a FC with convoke or try and steal bases maybe... But teams are almost never looking for a feral. Sorry, that's what I meant

[clear pulsar]

Feral's pretty good at killing FCs but I suppose you're playing bear in those

Feral's also better at taking bases but boomie's better for sitting

[foggy portal]

Thanks - im not too worried about waht the group is looking for as i should be able to find groups easily as guardian. i just prefer to play feral > boomy on non-guardian maps

[clear pulsar]

But 4p makes feral a menace in teamfights now too, especially in clumped up fights like eye of the storm or gilneas

[foggy portal]

sort of an ask for forgiveness not permission thing lol

[clear pulsar]

I mean

Whenever I was looking for rbgs

I'd join as boomie

And swap inside

Then I'd carry a game and no one would kick me

[foggy portal]

lol

cat noises

[signal arrow]

Lmao

[regal nymph]

if you play good, you can join as whatever u want

[foggy portal]

👍

[regal nymph]

if your class is not meta, but you're really good with it then you shouldn't have a hard time

[signal arrow]

maybe still have a hard time getting into groups ^^

but yeah once you're in the group really doesn't matter what you play

as long as you're good

[stray sigil]

rbgs

[fallow root]

Are bear tanks needed on silvershard mines or should I spec boomkin instead

[foggy portal]

they dont get respect, but they can be a ton of fun

[sly marsh]

i think mines would be a boomie map since there’s no flag to spin but im not an rbg expert

[lime light]

iam clean

[grand mesa]

Welcome back EP

[lime light]

not back yet, but thx

prolly going out

on friday

[viscid remnant]

🙏

[grand mesa]

Must have been kinda serious if they admitted you for that long. Hope all is well 🙏

[timid garnet]

Conquest to Alts next Tuesday?????

any confirmers in the chat???

[viscid remnant]

no way of knowing

[timid garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-pepe-triggered-angry-ahhhh-gif-13627544

[grand mesa]

I’ll see some of you guys in storm wind next week 🥳

[viscid remnant]

in 10.2.5 they will add cross region right

[lime light]

cross expansion

[signal arrow]

Yaay ^^ you're NA though right?

[grand mesa]

ya

[lime light]

i think i got kicked from the core raid grp in tbc

cuz iam in hospital

[signal arrow]

I'll definetly swap to Nightelf though

[lime light]

[grand mesa]

tahts kinda shitty tbh

[signal arrow]

I mean if you explain them you were in hospital they'll understand right?

[lime light]

dont think so lol

[signal arrow]

Oof man

Kinda shitty of your raid not gonna lie

[lime light]

it is how it is

[grand mesa]

man classic guilds don't mess around

[lime light]

what can i do

ye, every second matters

in a big pump speed run ofc

oh well

[viscid remnant]

its like that meme of some1 getting kicked out of clash of clans clan and he said he was in the hospital because he has lukemia

truuuuuuuu

[lime light]

dont rly need pve gear in first few ssn i think

[stray sigil]

welcome back patron

i kept the discord in check in ur absence

[viscid remnant]

🙏

[lime light]

thank u for your services

@viscid remnant u gonna play wrath?

[stray sigil]

wtf david

[safe heart]

_

[viscid remnant]

for me it will be the same as tbc

play for 1-2 month and quit

[lime light]

ok then

[muted edge]

In 2s with a healer for feral is the call necro so I can blast just one target?

[signal arrow]

Most ferals I meet are necro yeah

Some play Nightfae but the majority is necro

[muted edge]

Alright. Just wanted to make sure I just finished leveling mine and ready to gear

I leveled as necro and it was really fun

[sleek ravine]

@fallow root a bit late, but most people just switch boomy. I’ve been personally finding more success with doing venthyr guardian on silver shards and kotmogu, where you sit in the enclave and swap between covenants depending on maps. A well geared guardian can do a lot of thrash damage on kotmogu, and in silver shard you can offcart with the stealth and open up. Due to being a tank and popping CC immunity they have to respond or they just lose the cart if enemy stealthies never come out. For the offcart I recommend making sure you are running maul conduit for 3x mangle into maul for big single target damage. You can destroy rogues and hunters this way fairly often, and because of being cc immune and tanky they can’t burn you in a stun with three of them jumping on you the moment your group comes out of stealth

On those maps because of team fight running den mother is a nice HP boost to the team fights, emerald slumber for CD return, and a third choice of preference. Sometimes taunt or thrash damage, maybe overrun or other things depends whatever you want

[lime light]

ok actually the deep vs amber

is still going

at least something to watch aye

[stray sigil]

u saw the

crackhead doctor

yuesterday

lol

@lime light

[lime light]

nah

got in just now

with the photos

lmao what is wrong

with this guy

the lawyer

[viscid remnant]

Which

[lime light]

the one is talking

rn

amber one

[viscid remnant]

Not watching atm xd

[tropic schooner]

EHHHH

stuff like KT 25 weapons

are real big

assuming you play feral you really want some pve items for sure

[lime light]

nah, cant lose that much ressil

[tropic schooner]

what

especially early on

there is no choice

[lime light]

ah u mean

before ppl get gear

[tropic schooner]

maybe like month 3 or so

once you hit 2.2

[lime light]

obv pve gonna be pump for few weeks yes

agree

[tropic schooner]

you can prolly swap

[lime light]

cuz u can pump 2 ways

pve items and pvp

[tropic schooner]

but feral needs some pve

yes

[lime light]

so way more gear at the same time

[tropic schooner]

wotlk isnt as extreme as tbc

[lime light]

but early on, there is nothing special

[tropic schooner]

but still needs quite some pve items

[lime light]

nothing as big

as the icc trinkets

[tropic schooner]

grim toll maybe

[lime light]

bracers

back

boots

belt

icc is pve fiesta

[tropic schooner]

togc trinkets

are prolly even better

[lime light]

the arm pen one

right

[tropic schooner]

arpen is icc

but solace

and deaths advance

are togc

icc is the saurfang arpen and vampire lady bauble

the big bad ones

[lime light]

Sharpened Twilight Scale

is bis

[tropic schooner]

halion

[lime light]

yup

[tropic schooner]

gotta look that up but yea maybe

[lime light]

it is 100% bis

[tropic schooner]

hm

[lime light]

double solace tho

monkaW?

[tropic schooner]

nah

solace + bauble

for humans

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I mean I didn't play original WOTLK but from what I heard won't it be a DK meta anyways? 😄

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no

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I thought they were super broken at release

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dks are likely average

at best

yes but we dont get 3.0 patch

it will be 3.3.5

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in 3.3.5 they are good, but not the gods

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(with possibly some balancing)

they hinted on some racial balancing

but no one knows yet

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ele shaman hpala arms

are the juicers

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yep

I personally expect s1

phdk

to be quite strong too

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beastcleaver ofc

in pve gear

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early on

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first week

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yep

gotta be big pumpers

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yeah

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have watched some private server arenas

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jungle bois

also

but not early on

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I expect fairly high diversity

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need gear

ye true

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caster cleaves

will be good

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but the last ssn

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at least later on

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i mean ye

thunder is bis tho

but thats obv

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hm

possible

but I expect a higher ratio of shadowmournes

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its far away

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compared to actual retail

double mourn tsg

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why tho

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sounds scary

cause people arent as shit

as back then

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uhm

u need to drop X the shards or w/e

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yes

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its time gated kinda of

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yes

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so why would it be different