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yeah its one thing is its an ignite mechanic so itll stack decently w/ good uptime but the bleed from frenzyband isnt much. i was getting less than a feral frenzy's worth of damage over its duration
convoke can get kinda sorta big? but tbh best case scenario its still not much
not possible u nob
You rat
anyone have a macro for lone empowerment, fury of elune and use trinket?
cant get it to line up, kyrian boomie
Can anyone let me know how to survive fury warriors in 2s? I literally sit bear all game and he still rots me down… i dont like this
Feral
I don't even have a good answer for that one lol
watch your debuffs, when he has 8 stacks of slaughterhouse on you, you take 40% less healing. thats when you need to get away. kite until it drops and then go back to work. i prefer to kill healers and just cc the warrior w/ roots and stuff to keep his stacks as low as possible for as much of the match
my healer yells at me if im not watching my stacks cuz healing into a -40% is just meaningless
Yeah but they have gap closers all dah
yeah. try to force them w/ a stun walk away, then they charge, you leap away. or get life gripped away
I swear I've kited off the stacks and then he charges and I get 4/8 stacks in 1 global
What tier would you guys put feral in
Yea
I'm just trash
Can't kite can't CC
Can't even use the right leggo!
just wish we could 1 shot like those cuck rogues
Never
I wanna stun lock
and do everything
Fucking dps heal peel cc
jungle is s tier
surv is quite good
Feral prob like A tier as its own class
bm or surv jungle both dece
nope
nice
feral only really was bad in like classic i think huh?
i wouldnt say were budget rogues, its just a hybrid spec
like obv we cant be hybrids with the rogues entire kit
playing rogue into jungle is like dousing yourself in gasoline
it does not feel good
because its the best most consistant spec
So I typically don't have longer games
If you can one shot with convoke
Because honestly fuck vendetta
good players wont let you get convoke off
necrolord feral is heavy sustatined damage with dece burst and great survivablilty
heavy if you don't get trained and sit beside r
bear
just wish multi bleeding was easier
well if you play well with your team, you can do counter go's to get out of bear form
but like no voice pugging , its hard to do that
the problem with multi bleeding is that it hinges on a damp game
like you wont win by multibleeding, youll win from ooming the healer eventually basically
yeah but multibleeding isnt going to get you a quick kill
I know
Like DHs absolutely
Molest me
monks easier to kill
Also how is the feign death leggo a think
Can just feign dots every time
Yup, hunters with craven hard counter
if you don't go after them, then they will just cc chain you the whole game lol
way easier to kill as sub or outlaw
I need a feral vod of someone explaining what they're doing
Whats the best duo partner for a resto druid?
prob sv hunter
Yea sv hunter definitely bis but rdruid synergizes well with pretty much everything
Wow feral 4p blasts
yo fearl pumps
I felt a bit wet noodly without the 4set
synergize with me lake 
We can queue whenever ya 
how do u protect a lock from a warr in 2s as resto
Any tips for playing against Warlock? (Both Destro and Affliction)
as what?
As resto druid just never push in stay max range all game if you push in vs Hpriest / lock you will die in a priest stun
It's a boring matchup but gotta let dampening carry you otherwise lock healing is just too stupid
Has anyone tried resto Druid balance affinity oath of the elder Druid at all? The instant cast 10k star surge sounds nice to help with kill pressure from range.
Kind of struggling with not being able to contribute damage during goes.
I haven't tried it but my initial impression is the lack of control you have with that lego
And as a resto druid you can win for free alot by just pve healing at max range
Yeah can confirm hit 2400 by just healing + CC
No need to contribute dmg except for the occasional Moonfire / Sunfire
if you keep your partner alive you should eventually win
I'm actually playing feral druid, the comp we're playing is jungle cleave
Ah sorry I don't know anything about feral I only play resto
At least if the idea is balance affinity, it wont just randomly proc when you shift to cat to kite or get rid of a root or something.
That's fine 😊 I appreciate that help, especially the dampening part
But you're giving up VI
I hardly think it's worth it
Me neither, dont get me wrong
you won't get that high into dampening because your heal throughput is severely hindered
But a big gripe with that leggo is that it just happens when you dont want it to with feral affinity
That's true
Yeah that's fair
Yeah I can’t imagine it would ever outweigh verdant. I just really enjoy a more aggro play style. And the huge clone range plus some on demand burst sounded fun. Maybe I could get away with just running heart instead.
Not having bash sucks unless you run cat affinity
Then you can atleast combo point stun
Or are horde
I know mmarkers messes around with it you can watch some of his stuff. But with the caveat that it’s another player clowning on people worse than him with random builds
Also the extra range from balance affinity lets you outrange dh and dk kicks with root clone
Yeah mmarkers is nice and fun to watch
Just gotta keep in mind he's basically smurfing 24/7
Love watching his gameplay it’s really entertaining
That's a good point but I think I'd still rather have frenzied regen
Especially against DK
Those guys hurt
Yeah maybe I’ll just stay verdant for now and if I start carrying friends or guildies I’ll play around with some builds. I feel like I’d probably go draught feral affinity if I was going to carry anyone though.
Yep that's the way if you wanna carry with dps
https://i.imgur.com/tMn7EnX.png is this good for feral in pvp
can gladiator mount be obtained on 2v2?
No V3 only
is the item good guys
No.
whats the better alternative then
if you dont even tell me why its bad
it has good vers compared to others which didnt give any
If you think it's good, play with it :3
You have to follow the discord advice blindly
Wow is a meta Andy game anything against it consider it off meta and see how it' goes
no doesnt rly help tho
I still use shackle LOL
if u want to play
As feral playing necro rock the badge with random procs and trinket
Against wizards switch badge for the magic shield
so do whatever u want
whats better
But everyone plays different so if it accommodates your playstyle and you perform well use it
depends on ur situation
once you hit close to 1800 I think you'll see why certain things are better
but the haste trinket/emblem/aegis
i play convoke
So then rock the 3min cc immune trinket with the 1 min on use badge
And use convoke when all conditions are met
Convoke whack bruv
but so is vendetta so I respect it
Just hard to pull off successfully
like as I get better I understand why the current feral meta is what it is
whats your cr?
Strong bleeds then dip out survive and reset or do whatever
floating between 1550-1600
I'm not an expert but I actively improve every game
i was 1900 last season
what are you saying?
you can't just say this is my number I'm better than everyone rated below me
This guy really saying 1900 but ask all these questions.
1900 is shit
1900
who says im better
You're probabaly 20-25% above average
how insecure are yo uholy shit?
take your meds please
Youtube guides, look uup top tier players gear
I did
So much you can do
this me bruh

I hate fuckheads that scrutinize mental illness on a side note
imagine being insecure about a number never even mentioned that i was better than anyone i wanted insight on a trinket rofl
schizo gaming
I wasn't saying that, just a general statement
Lmao what is this
some guy getting butthurt
u are both stupid
im getting butthurt ? you might wanna read your schizo outbreak
Hi all, could anyone point me to some guides playing RDruid in 3s? Playing with a lock/ele sham. Slowly improving but I feel I'm the weakest link. Would love a resource to learn more about how to play v certain comps/classes. My highest exp is 1800 last season, and I'd really like to hit that earlier this season so we can make a good push beyond that. Before last season I really didn't arena at all, so I know I have a lot to learn.
The statement with the number is pretty stupid tbh
But asking about Cr after asking a question also is
i only asked cr because u said when i get towards a certain cr ill understand the game more XD
i thought u were like 2500 rating to say things like that
shut up bitch
💀
Wonder where zechey’s been
im allowed to be mean too now :3
ur a hardstuck loser getting pent up sorry buddy noone taking advice from 1600 rating andy
woof woof bark dog
I'm not mad
You're just actually a cuck
I'm hardstuck but you don't know what trinket to use
You got a bitch made mentality
not so sure
Save us EP
Y’all good in here?
i dont even wanna read this
Side effect of malding
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honestly not interesting, i was hoping to be entertained but it wasnt worth scrolling
That Convo made me scratch my head and rub my eyes
Its bad cause it gives less damage or survivability than the others
Thats all there is to it
Bro u were 1900 last season
Thats not even half the highest rating there was that season
How r u even talking shit to someone about rating
Xd
Vers not super important anymore this season since the trinket changes
My Resto druid has less than 30% vers I think
Not a highend giga chad rank 1 gamer but atleast made it to 2400 which was my goal this season vers definetly lost value with the change to trinket bonus
🙏 
What comps work good with Resto for 2s?
I think if you're asking for the best comp it's probably with a hunter
Or now with an outlaw that they got buffed
But Rdruid fits in most comps that have dampening as win condition
ok thanks
oh my godd shut the fuck up
read the whole conversation before making stupid claims
what is "dampening"? and what changed with outlaw?
Outlaw got a flat % buff to all their abilities last patch
And Dampening is the amount of healing reduction you are at it begins at 20% or something in 2v2 and keeps stacking up
3v3 starts with 0% dampening
thank you, friend an i stepping into arena for the first time. he keeps getting blowed up by double dps, trying go figure out how to peel for him better. i play BM and can't seem to keep the melee off him
we were unaware of the dampening mechanic
What more do i need to read?

As BM hunter you don't have a lot of tools to peel for your healer. Survival is much better in that department best you can do is create pressure that way the enemy will have to play defensive and use their ressources to heal instead of dealing dmg
but if you are getting blown up by double dps it sounds like your friend just needs to practice his healing rotations a bit more

Ok and now in allowed words
How much longer before that dude gets himself banned
Waste of time
shut the fuck up, i said my cr because he said his
Summary = do i use wrong trinket? Answer is no
Then he cries about reasoning and rating
someone already answered tho
Yes but u are flaming people based on cr
Thank you sora. Great info. Sounds like I need to farm some conquest and get a weapon for Survival and maybe give that a go.
i never flamed until he insulted me??
1900
4 iq????
A bit of a shithead ngl
I SAID myself tjat 1900 is not good
Ok and i said so too
ROFL youre literally a subhuman im sorry man learn to read
You're welcome mate good luck in your climb! If you have any more questions feel free to ask
So we agree
i dont even k now u exist
I am involved
Thanks, will do
Ok movietime goodbye
Its not even about the trinket anymore hello?
did someone shit inside your brain
the trinket stuff has been resolved long ago
You know it's not too late to just drop this conversation all together and have a great relaxed evening
It’s 1 pm sir
8 PM here XD
Fucking time traveler
i just dont take advice from people lower cr than me, i asked his cr and he told me it was about 1500 when he was talking about me reaching 1800 to understand the game more. therefore i did tell him that i got over 1800 before and his inferiority complex kicked in and he started crying / insulting me. therefore next time if you plan on dickriding and being an useless subhuman weasel get full context
When zoomers spend too much time on the internet ^
"zoomer" own my own appartement and car wbu?
dont mind it feji
when this was my server
I don’t know anymore
This is a bad take, players on low CR can still be knowledgeable but lack the skills to put their ideas into actual gameplay look at LS in League of legends for example he is a coach for some of the best players in the world but he doesn't play on that level himself plus maybe someone at 1500 CR does one aspect really good but sucks at other aspects
Sometimes on low CR I play against people who make perfect cc chains like high rated players but they just forget to heal their dps in between or something LOL
id rather take advice from someone who got further than me
that is so true
q
i play a lot of mordor
recently
for fun
and actually its so rdru thing
in mordor
they try so hard to cc
and forgot to heal
Yes haha happens way too often at low CR
But what comp is Mordor?
hahaha
XD
mordor means low cr
Ahh kekW
mordor is rating below 2k
I got 2550 and I would never use that trinket because it won't have a large impact game to game
Hope that helps
You can't get value out of it really
I have never seen anyone play that trinket the 3 min CD also means it doesn't line up with any major absorb effect
If it was 2 minutes atleast you could use it on like every shield of vengeance of a ret or something
Yeah the best thing I could see it used for us like on fleshcrafts but like , those break in 5 seconds
Yeah
we talking about new maledonger?
This Thing yeah
I’m stuck at 2,1k cuz it never feels like I can trade correctly people just get one shot so easily it’s hard to tell when someone will live or die
Are you a resto druid?
Yes
well idk ^^ I think having a regular partner helps
Then you know whether your partner will survive something or not because you have experience
resonator makes me laugh so much some games tho man. People somehow just toss it on the ground for fun praying you stay in it. like, wat u doin bruh. Just take a passive stat stick at that point
everyone else said its bad idk i literally wanted to know bc i got back in the game
You can make it work in some situations
its not good ye
i believe u
So true lol
it sucks i picked it because it had high vers from the quest there was like 5 others i could choose
now it sucks i feel like i wasted my chance to get the good one
you can get one every week
You can repeat the quest every week
with the quest
Yeah
no it's not useless
early this season I was playing feral/aff 3s and whenever my lock used dark soul, the other team all used aegis so my healer used the devouring maledict to remove all their aegis and we actually won a game like that
but you don't want to stack it above all else
ok....
Like sometimes it's worth now to put higher itemlevel on and drop vers
When before it was always vers
i have 33%
already droppin vers to have 4 set, so yeah, i sit at round 30
and i play convoke
been a while since i played tho. farmed a bit early for 2.1 and slacked to pve
i needa start again soon
is ladder easy or hard rn?
like, is it inflated or smth
crit is really good no?
Hard to judge around 2400 definetly still a lot of games against R1 players but much easier than beginning of the season where you would sometimes face R1 players on 1800
I think crit is not great in PvP because of the reduced effectiveness but I'm not a feral main so maybe someone else can correct me on that
i took the crit weapon
doesnt matter that much
i dont really want haste
ok thanks
how do i kill DH
pray he doesn't get a demon proc on your go
I switched over from fae to necrolord, but I gotta say, I feel like my bleeds arent doing anything and most classes can just heal through everything I put up
Its a full cp rip, rake stun, MF and swarm. Anyone have any tips? Im 265 pvp ilvl with draught
increase ur ilvl and get 4set bonus
is 265 low?
depends on ur rating if ur low its okay but its pretty low
my 2s is like 1400. I just came back to slands about a month ago, grinding ever since
trying to farm conq gear atm
Also, could anyone share their general opener?
Tf in stealth, rake stun , ff , berserk swarm
where do i put verdant leggo for resto pvp?
cape
just hit 1800 in 3s 
My eyes can see a gem
Grats
2s make you feel like uninstalling the game more often
So just on a motivational basis I think 3s is easier
@safe heart you swarm after beserking?
makes sense I usually do tf stun swarm ff rip moon beserking
Normally I actually swarm before but it doesn't matter that much
I like yours better because swarm is an awake aff global
awkward*
like just get it all up
Yeah
wrong
The only thing that makes me want to Uninstall is mlx
But yeah good surv hunters piss me off too
Only when I play dps or vs Ass rogue
Hunters, assa, necro dh healing to full on my go for no good reason
Oh yeah necro DH is a tilter too
DHs destroy me
glad I don't play feral lol but if I would play feral I'd probably try and go healer before I try to kill a SV hunter
I don't think you'll ever kill SV unless he dies in a stun
The one game I lost against feral they just did a clean cross CC and bursted me in a maim stun 100-0
feral what
I wanna do that
do y'all every maim instead of ripping to keep stub up
Or should I bash off rake stun
it was also mindgames on my frenzied regen heal proc ^^
So they just deleted me
also I'm at 26 vers 54 mas 16 haste and like 16 crit how do we feel about that
U squishy
You can deff one shot healers if you triple dr stun on a sickle
Vs shamans I always send first go with everything, triple dr stun and they don't wanna trinket the 1s stun but they die
It's harder vs other healers though since they have buttons in a stun
Feels like Barkskin is not a button, but true
Feral resto 2s when 
I'm exclusive a mm oneshotter rn
Yeah rdruids very killable too
Honestly I think it depnds whether you have a priest heal or not ( but most of the time of course you will have one )
mind games is so big vs Rdruid
I do need to fill my m+ vault Face so just lmk
I think wihout mindgames no way i die in a stun
Man the amount of insta dispels I’ve done in that today to hit my goal is crazy
I think the only class that successfully nuked me was an assa rogue today
But other than that they don’t go me cause too much healing
bro don't get me started on ass rogue
I literally played their setup as perfect as possible and died through :))
Hey I know how they are. My main alt is a rogue. Assa at that
So I know how dirt they/I can be. And am

Even w the nerf. Sepsis too good
Like they kidney me, instant barkskin wait for them to commit sepsis -> trinket dispell -> tranq immunity die in global
I die in the tranq immunity global
What joke of a class
I mean
But maybe not as bad after it got nerfed from 100% to 50%
The most annoying thing imo is priests Reviving themselves
That should not be in the game
Honestly I think the ass rogue cheese oneshot is worse
gate kept me from 2400 for like 5 games
Nah it’s still v strong. Instead of dying after bleeds and popping vendetta they gotta just w venom once
I should go attempt glad on my rogue. I suck at arenas tho
1800 doesn’t feel like much. I did hit 2k in arenas last expac. But I mostly rbg for my pvp.
But I just started pvp this week. So I guess 0-1800 in a week ain’t bad
Yeah that's good mate ^^ keep at it
I might do some more after I fill my m+ vault
Then I can try to be glad like you 
The whole thing is insane w how much damage some classes put out
Like warlock w mage
I'm not glad ^^ I got 2400 in 2's
I can’t do it
I'm merely an elite pleb
That’s still v good
Like I think even 1800 is like “higher end” cause a lot get stuck around 14-1500
So you being 2400 in that is v good
But I could be wrong about the hardstuck thing idk
I think the majority ppl get stuck at 15-16
There's a graph about it somewhere
Thank you mate 😆 I appreciate it and yeah we definetly beat some R1 players on our way there but 3's is a completely different beast pushing 2400 there will be difficult
I should look at the graph. Might make me feel better about hitting 1800
What’s funny is recently I ran into bajheera in a Rbg w his viewers. That was a fun game
Man imagine queuing into pika
I would cry
Dude styles on everyone
So good
haha but he is NA I'm EU
Oh
we did queue into some EU Rank 1 people though
Yeah for sure 😄 we were farming 1 team in particular
Like we just kept getting matched against the same people almost every game
Damn
I always wondered if other ppl ever recognized me when I queue into them
I like when that happens sometimes
Same. But not like randomly. Only if I queued into them that day lol. I’m not that good to be memorized
Same 😄 but not when I am 1 win off 2400 and it's the same ass rogue player that oneshot me 4 times before
hahaha
True hahaha
I remember almost everyone if their name sticks out
Like the game begins and I usually just read out 1 name loud if it sounds funny and then I'll remember that name
Like "wow we're playing against PinkFluffyUnicorn"
I don’t play against this guy but it’s a dude I see online from time to time in oribos
Name is Indatass

lul
My original name before Aucat was Stepdruid
I can imagine ^^
@river solstice
This is the graph
So median is 1600 rn in 2s
So you're in like the 75th percentile at 1800
That’s decent yeah?
you’re in the top 25% of players
That's pretty good
for that bracket / geography
You can go out as a legend if you quit rn
You can call all your pve friends hardstuck andys
But now I will look cooler doing it
Yeah can’t wait to show up to mythic halondrus tonight flexing my mog
thanks
#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits(Night Fae)
/cast Convoke the Spirits(Night Fae)
/use 13
this is not casting convoke
im not spamming either
You need to use the trinket first
Cuz using the trinket is cancelling ur convoke
Because you can't do stuff while you channel convoke
i see
its fixed
i fully trsut u
i was just curious cat
bc im feral main not boomy
i lowkey like a lil boomy
not even convoke just some big surges
oofh
boat for boom?
mostly dreambinder for boomy
even if NF ?
Hey, guys, noob feral here. I wonder if someone is playing Oath of the Elder Druid with NF and does it make a difference?
yes -- you starsurge twice, then convoke to buff all the starsurges during convoke
Thing I learned today, I didnt know when hunters feign death, it resets our bleed. Or did I misread that?
it doesnt reset it , it clears it completely
well...shit
yeah GL vs hunters
the one class I have trouble with are locks. OMG
I try to avoid as much as possible, but if yall have tips. Im open to listen
hunters make me sad inside.
Do I fae or Pelagos for boom
In arena rbg
The hunter feign leggo is super whack
for locks kick soul rot idk they either rock me or I rock them no in between
Now DHs on the other hand I can't do anything if I tried
kyrian or necro for arena, NF for rbgs
Here is Rudars guide. https://pastebin.com/X5UeECS5
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Just focus on kicking soul rot?
not chaos bolts? I am super unfamiliar with locks and their spec specific spells
sickle pumps so hard. i really enjoy both the 2pc and 4pc for feral
i actually have the most fun w/ feral these days
10/10 would recommend
how do you farm marks of honor in this day and age
buy em for 2k honor at rhe honor vendor
if u played bfa u prob have like 10k of those
Brawl gives a lot too iirc
i did a few brawls and got 0
Cuz like 1 win every 4m
the quest gave me 5
arathi basin brawl vs bots, it's not up rn but it's free wins and mad honor
ohhh that one
When it's up next
what honor vendor bc i've checked a few and don't see a way to buy marks
unless i'm blind
OH there is a box
i looked it up
i was looking for the marks of honor icon
i don't mind it it just tricked me
i want a nice sword mog for my warrior
since kitch told me taeschalach is ugly on him
Ah okay gotcha yea pvp got some nice mog stuff
Think I have everything unlocked for druid stuff lol
:~)
Clean 👍
So glad they added more customization options for velf and belf you can make them look so cool and pretty now
does feral actually use AS or just necro for fleshcraft?
YEAH me too, void elves are alright but felt very restricted
and like a bandaid for the lack of high elves on the alliance
Ya you use AS too, huge buff to all ur dots
Oo yea idk any of the lore stuff so not sure what the difference between them is 
Ok dumb take
basically blood elves were alliance originally and called high elves but then blizzard wanted girls to play horde so they gave them a story that put them on horde but lorewise some high elves didn't want to go horde so they stayed alliance and they've never been playable
then they gave the alliance the blood elf model as void elves but didn't let you customize them to have blue eyes (high elves have blue eyes) or normal hair/skin colors so you still couldn't really make alliance high elves
after many years of campaigns on the forums they gave everyone blue eyes and gave velves normal colors/no tentacle options and there was global celebration
TY!! ❤️
O you did
yeah i think it's really good
LOL yeah
You two are one and the same in my heart
understandable
even though i was a dger way before him
like sylvanas, alleria, and vereesa are not blood elves, they're high elves, sylvanas is the only one who isn't alliance. and if you've ever seen blood elves on the alliance and gone "wtf is up with that" now u know. they're not blood elves @tiny oar
I absolutely do not want to be horde, nelf for life, math checks out.
I am glad they got their blue eyes tho :)
yeah fuck the horde
high elves were actually night elves who were outcast for practicing arcane magic and started looking at the sun... yadda yadda yadda
Isnt sylvanas like an undead banshee now technically or a blood elf originally?
she was a high elf and then slain by arthas and became a banshee
blood elves have green eyes because they ate fel cookies
with her in it
Yea for sure 
Hi
When u have nothing in ur life

daivdder needs 11 hours because when ur body is working at double the pace of a normal body it requires more rest.
cuz hes built different
True
🙏 
True
Hi cyon nice 2 see u here hope ur pvp adventures are going well
Oh that’s lakez
Hi puzzle
Hi lake good morning
they are doing good, hit 1800 in 3s w friends yesterday
gonna do some rbgs today (:
From what I heard it's rough right now, good luck ^^
yeah its been rough sorta
been around 1630 for a couple days
but mostly unorganized teams

IIRC I heard like 2-3 weeks ago the hero of the horde cutoff is 1900 CR
probably raised since then but crazy to think about ^^
YO INV FOR RBGS WTF


Get off your stinky hunter
Wasn’t it 2600 ish last season?
Or was that season 1
I’m not entirely used to the pvp bracket w inflation or rating so, wow didn’t realize that’s why it felt harder than before
I don't really know not following RBG's I only remember someone in this channel said the hero of the horde cutoff was super low a few weeks ago
Hero cutoff according to arenamate is 2120 for horde NA
I see
Yep and few weeks ago it used to be 1900 It hink
What’s the weapon enchant this time around?
it's really low compared to arena
Cosmic sometbing
I have my sinful flame but that flex has worn off
It's some automa geometry looking thing
Looks ok with certain things
Not very lit tbh
I think it's the best one from Shadowlands
So my sinful flame still flexable? 
Yes 😂
I wish i was better in MOP for when they first rolled out those enchants
Isn’t that what season 1 did
That first one looked sick
I dont like the current one at all
this is current
This is season 2 it's just black
Put it on the mythic staff from SFO
Season 2 looks nice on things you can see the outer flame on
Ofc on that tiny ass dagger you cant see shit
Fair point ^^ but I can only transmog daggers or artifact weapon
😢
I’m just using a balance staff mog for my elite pvp set
No cool staffs to go with it
Yeah. Tbh I’m gonna change it to the golden scythe one when I finish the mythic mog for SFO
Gonna take forever to finish mythic mog
Just need belt and hands to make it work. Pants and wrists and feet don’t really count on this mog so
Nah
I catalyzed pvp gear first lmao
I just need to get a 278 belt and hands
Then catalyze them
And I’m good
Idc about wrists, pants or feet. They all don’t show at all lol
Yeah I was dumb and just learned about the pvp into catalyst gear yesterday lmfao
So I gotta do that at some point
Just for pvp ilvl. But I’m at 280 for pvp ilvl atm
Yeah I’ve had 278s to use but my first 4 crafts have been the pvp gear. Thought it was more value for me personally than the 278s in raid idk
I mean with max itemlevel PvP gear you are only 3 itemlevels off the mythic+ ones
Well yeah but it won’t go to 285 in pvp
So that’s never changing lol
Assuming at max
My gear is 278 in pvp rn so I’m not too rushed to change pvp gear into pvp tier
Now if I were like 2.1 I would be focused on that cause they would be huge in pvp
Pvp tier does go to 285 in pvp
Yeah but not in PVE
Oh I see what ur saying
Is what I’m saying
Yeah
Yeah so my pvp gear currently goes to 278 in pvp. And I have 278 tier just not pvp tier
So am in no rush to change pvp gear into tier
Until I rank up
Only 1 of my tier pieces is from PvP and that is the one I don't wear in PvP cause it's my legi slot lol
So really does not make a huge difference
Tier Shoulder gives crit / haste I'm good ^^
This true
These purple smokey flames are more visible on a few weapons but yeah looks pretty lame on most
Yeah IIRC my 2's mate from last season also had 1 weapon that fit really well with the appearance but everything else just looked bad ^^
I'm still more into the purple flame from bfa anyways
Ok hunterplayer

idk i liked sinful flame
yeah I had a brain fart
Yo can someone explain their instant burst healing rotation a little? Been trying to look at guides but am a little confused. If you come out of cc and lets say you need to instantly keep someone from dying. ie there 10% health left. Or if they go you and you come out of a stun. Lets say all hots purged off. What do you do there?
It seems like 4 globals to get a big heal off and thats too long. It looks like people were talking about cen ward swiftmend as your quick heal? But I swear I can't use swiftmend if its just cen ward on the target? Also aren't you kinda screwing cen ward by not having it buffed by mastery when applied?
Mastery isnt snapshotted
Every stat buff is dynamically applied
As it's up
Just NS regrowth them idk
If you play it correctly you should have a reju up when you get out of CC most of the time unless the CC chain is really long if that is the case you just Swiftmend -> NS Regrowth otherwise you gotta reju -> Swiftmend -> NS regrowth
if it's a situation where they are literally on 1% hp and they die if you use your next global best you can do is NS regrowth -> Swiftmend -> regrowth
hope it tops them
But I pretty much never go for the second option
unless it's super emergency
Why can't you swiftmend cenarion ward? I feel like I heard people mention it in passing
You live or die by your swiftmend NS. Be really judicious with them. Don’t waste the use on random shit
You can extend the cenarion ward with swiftmend
But you can't swiftmend someone if they don't have a 2 piece hot, reju, Wild growth or Regrowth on them
2pc is actually really good for that. Sometimes reapplies renewing bloom late into rejuv so you can more reliably first global swiftmend out of cc
Or what are you suggesting? Are you suggesting you swiftmend the low health target then use cenarion ward on them?
That is a bad idea
You lose out on extensions and cenarion ward doesn't get buffed by soul of the forest
So really no reason to cenaron ward after SM
Naw I was thinking you'd cen ward then swiftmend to get the conduit increase guaranteed from cen ward
floral recycling
It only heals for the amount of the consumed hot, Cenarion ward doesn't get consumed
it doesn't interact with it at all
Adaptive swarm also helps cover your hots
Purge only reduces one stack as opposed to the whole thing
Floral recycling is not that good anymore I think since we got 2 piece
If you’re getting purged
Because if you consume the 2p hot it does basically nothing
2p hot heals for like 70 over 6 seconds or something ridculously low
it's just a mastery stack
Kk that makes sense that the cen ward doesnt interact besides verdant. Thats what I thought when i was testing it but I wanted to double check. So if they go me and I die a big part of that would be me not having a rejuv on myself prior. What conduit do you run instead of floral now then?
Honestly the biggest part is maximising cenarion ward uptime on the kill target
as Resto druid 1 target should be pretty much unkillable at all times
Either you or your dps
depending who you put the cenarion ward on
I keep it personally but I know it’s been suggested the viable alternative now is the clear casting conduit
And I run flash of clarity nowadays
Yep
Yeah I don't have any problem with the normal one target getting trained aspect. But I did want to double check. The Hots do change their value based on how many prior hots were previously applied right?
It snapshots I think
If you reju first and then you regrowth the reju will heal more afterwards
But i'll test that real quick to make sure lol
Kk. Thats what I thought. Just wanted to double check. I checked on the buffs and their tooltips still hold.
So in that situation its a pretty huge loss to cenarion ward unless theres at least a few buffs on the target
Nothing snapshots in this game anymore
Mastery is dynamic jivie
Only tigers fury and bloodtalons
Yep Face is right I just tested it
This is the contrary of snapshotting
Yeah that's why I said I'm wrong I just tested it XD

That's why you always test to make sure 😛
I wouldn't overthink it that much but that's what happens most of the time anyways
since you try to have pretty much 100% uptime of reju / Lifebloom on the kill target
and then cenarion ward when you see big dmg coming
So your other hots should already be applied unless they do a swap
And if you have 4 set a neat little thing I like to do is get to 2 stacks and then sit down for a drink
and use the tree proc for recovery
Oh shit so the tooltip on the buff doesn't update but the actual healing does. Man I've been making shit way more difficult then it needs to be lol
nono the healing doesn't update aswell my first comment was wrong it doesn't snapshot
The tooltip is correct
I'm just saying most of the time you have all hots applied anyways when you go for Cenarion Ward
Or atleast you should ^^
You can even refresh reju / lifebloom early if you smell a CC chain coming so it's still up when you get out of the cc chain so you can swiftmend -> Ns Regrowth after and then still have cenarion ward readyif there is some damage left
Mana is pretty much a non issue anyways since you can stealth drink
Swear I'm not trying to troll but maybe I'm using language wrong. If I cenarion ward myself. Proc it then its healing for 2300 a tick. Then I overgrowth, afterward it heals for 3360 a tick. Even though my buff tool tip didn't update. So it really doesn't matter at all then? Which means its not snapshotting.
I think it updates with rejuv too. The tooltips definitely don't update though which is why I've thought it for sooo long
Oh yes you are correct face is wrong kekW
only the tooltip doesn't update
But you can check in combat log it does heal more
Maybe I'm understanding snapshotting wrong but I thought it means if you apply a second hot the first hot dynamically heals more
Then isn't that exactly what's happening?
Snap shotting means your healing value would be locked in no matter what u do after it
Ah lol so it's the exact opposite
I figured you had the terms mixed up yeah
Yeah that makes sense ^^
Lol thats why I got so confused and had to clarify
Tree form is also dynamic healing from what I understand
my bad sorry 😄
But since it’s dynamic you don’t care
So the only thing that should snap shot then is tree form rejuv?
Yeah if you overwrite it with normal reju it heals less
Existing rejuvs will have the buff
Or what do you mean?
wait does that mean if you go out of tree they also all heal less again?
then why would you flourish your tree hots in raid
Because you have a ton of hots ticking 100% faster
Lmao yeah
I think sotf hots might snapshot but I never cared to check
Like a sotf rejuv or something
But never tested
Tooltips are also notoriously unreliable sometimes unfortunately
Yeah it's as you say that's depressing lol
Holy actual crap it updates dynamically in tree form too
As soon as tree ends the reju is weak again
I used to always spam rejuvs full reapply to try and get them out every tree form before it fell
Same
Ayyy think of all the GCDs saved now 👍
I was about to embark on a whole rejuv snapshot tracking journey. Saved me a few hours of ui work lol
I think of all the times I thought "I gave him a tree reju he should be fine"
That makes our 4p a lot weaker than I thought 😢 but still good

Lmao face
guys
I'm wondering
since frenzyband affects combo point generating abilities
does it make feral fenzy bleed for 150% of its dmg if used during berzerk?
nvm from what ive been told its only the first hit
Frenzyband doesnt get built by bleeds yep












