#pvp
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how do yall do torghast?
i dont
oooh, from the ZM vendor right? i haven't checked that out yet
i think i have ADHD, i dont know man. or maybe its just cause i play feral on PVE too
but i keep messing up openers and bursty times as necro
There are pills for adhd
I was taking them for a bit
Then i stopped
Now i can release my full potential
can someone help me decide between nightfae and necro for world pvp?

world pvp is cringe. but you prolly better off with convoke cheesing unexpected people
very unfortunate they removed /spit tho. it was very useful against that
ill be doing bgs too but I mostly enjoy world pvp in games (I'm very new to wow, like 5 days in)
yeah take convoke
I'm not even sure what convoke is tbh lol
i love wpvp. i prefer night fae if im in the mood for just ganking people. and necrolord if im trying to do like 2 or 3v1's
the night fae ability you get
convoke is nightfae
alrighty, thanks guys 😄
ill be honest though, its hard to find good wpvp this patch.
I mainly just like to screw around usually, I havent been ganking peoplewhile mobs are on them. I don't like that
yeah but night fae is still good if you find someone off on their own running from place to place
cool beans, ill pick it then 🙂 thank you so much
Go nf rat
as necro ferals on 2s, how do you guys feel when playing against resto druid + bm hunter?
You'll become like that once it happens to you 5 times in 20 mins
i feel like i cant kill bm hunters coz of their feign death leggo and cant kill the resto druid if the bm hunter is peeling out for him
bm rdru is the ultimate shitter comp
its very unfort
send it on the rdru
no other choice
Go rdru or you need to dr stun hunters every go to actually do damage
Resto aff can work if you can kite well and benefit from the extra healing but if they notice you're not guardian , they'll train you and resto aff won't help you near as much
It's a gamble
i know
I wouldn't recommend in most cases
I like it in feral / caster comps cuz ppl would rather train casters usually
Never in 3s
It's not unviable , just play it well
what about BT for full bleed pressure
It's good for being rotty, can play curio necro and try to multi bleed but you'll lose your only burst
cat eye curio?
You would have sickle and then do only pad damage for 3 minutes
im nerco rn draught
Yah if you want to multi bleed, I'd recommend curio
So you can actually maintain rip on 2-3 targets
You'll need the energy
Yeah I mean there's some merit to it sure but bt over ff means you have no burst and you should plan on oom'ing healer
Yeah I mean , the double bleeds might be nice in between burst windows , cuz the ret obv doesn't need your help to kill someone
But convoke to alternate with him could be good too
Convoke is like a "trinket or die" in most cases so if your ret pops off on one guy and you convoke healer, that's quite a predicament for them but convoke has 29 terms and conditions to check off before you can do damage is all
I think necro or nf or even kyrian would work with ret
Double hybrids are good
yeah what are my convoke conditions
Nothing besides your kill target in melee range
Good cross cc
Full stun
If warlock with pet out you need to stun or fear or clone pet
Make sure there's no Kevin's near your target
Make sure bm hunter pets are feared or rooted
Same for surv pets or any pets
You just need them as isolated as humanly possible because like literally anything being near you when you do it will make it do negative damage
It becomes more straight forward as you get used to it
But yeah some games it's amazing because ppl just tank it and die and some games you literally do 0 damage all game because you send 70k damage into an npc with 5k hp
Nah I wouldn't play it in a legit comp
I only use that for carries
Like if you're actually trying to push I mean
Cuz if you don't win the opener, your pally needs to have non monkey brain or you're dead hundo P
my pally has monkey brain
Then yeah don't play fastidious
You could maybe play echoing if you're willing to manage it well
i feel like crying. its not quite as bad as SV / Rdruid but its one step short of that. i was looking at ludos labs the other day and idk how accureate it is, but like SV / Healer (any healer) has like a 70+% win rate against feral healer.
and that feels true
bm your win condition is just 100-0 the healer w/ full bleeds and mindgames with no trinket or tranq
Yeah its pretty hopeless for sure
They just 2x your dmg pve'ing laughing the whole time because they know you can't do anything about it and their healer has to throw for you to win
Yeah when I learned that forgoing your rotation to spam cobra shot is more dps than actually using abilities , I lost all faith in humanity
When does Verse start dring? is it 30%
yes
ty
Think everything DRs at 30
yeah. but its not really noticeable until after 35%... ideally i like 35-37% im low right now but im thinking of switching my gems over to get closer to 35%
natural order BIS for convoke feral right?
yea
do i still play bear aff with it or resto?
As kyrian boomie playing with ele in 3s, am i supposed to kindred him or use lone empowerment?
afflock is pure cancer, healing more than the healer with their bullshit
Hi
Hello
How’s the hpriest coming along?
dead chat 
Sad
Its good 220 ilvl rdy to queue for sure
220? enough for glad
Nice. I’m slow playing mine. Doing zereth mortis and campaign to get renown up. Kinda sad I missed comp stomp
No fucking way did I miss comp stomp FUUUCK



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LOL
SAME ITS GONNA B GREAT
Ayy gz on 4 set. Guess this is the week that even the most unlucky players get to play now huh 😂
@viscid remnant how is wrath
idk notmax lvl yet
nah, need to skip the rona for a bit longer
I like having a mask on
I make ugly faces all the time when I'm out just walking places
Under the mask
I mouth shit to myself etc
uhm iam not so sure if u guys leaving home
I am actually outside right now!
Can't stop me
tru i never
i went on a walk to smoke weed that was me going outside this week
i think this ssn might just be fucking awful
fakking feji
elpatron knows
he can get 2.1
intantly
on every class
without trying
that is the difference between elpatron and feji
nop
Yup I’m just sticking to 2s 😂
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or true and big yes
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its ok fuji me and this dk are farming mordor
unh dk rdruid bis 2s comp
Vortex in the abom limb
bro
i swear like
u actually have to g uardian aff some games in 2s
as rdru
like this is fucking INSANE
Yupppp
I haven’t seen as much rogue mage lately in 2s. Which I’ve been going feral aff for
Perma bear against fury dh assa survival lol
Ye
and then
ur ape teammate that tanks every cd complains ur not healing
okdude i got braindmg x5
yea
i just pre bbarked OGed a bomb and tranqed rogue blind right after
dk still dies to dark soul
You got that BrainDamage 5.0 ©️
ye
Yeah
But like
Use brain too
If swarm already on target , you don't have to press swarm again
And you can refresh swarm duration when it gets low for uptime
sry trinketed a bit too late 
It was already pre-announced that today's announcement was for a warcraft phone game!?
You're bald
Looks so cartoony
Then dont play it
Think im more hyped for immortals
ye i heckin love diablo immortal
If I had to choose
yea i just need to send trink bark at 100% hp now
insanity
why is big debuffs not in curseforge
it is
It is
for me at least
Try searching one word
what are some pvp essentials
i have bg enemies
mes arena cds
bigdebuffs now
what else
Sarena/gladius omnibar omnicd probably
Ye diminish for tracking ur DRs nice too
Brutal
I am dogshit I had tranq bub
Not used to having to trinket tranq
Shows all enemy cd tracking kicks cc etc
is circle the play for necroferal after 4pc?
It's a build yeah, but probably best for 2s , not so much 3s
I've been liking it in 2s tho
I think draught is probably better overall tho if you could only have one
seems like big pressure
finna make it rn
need a neck now tho 😦
gotta LFR bruh
whats the drawback with it
Idk it honestly feels good imo
I like it but in 3s , I wouldn't play it
Yeah like I'd advocate for it, I pushed from 2k to 2160 with it
not sure why u would go for a build around a 2min cd
instead of constant dmg
seemsweird champ
It makes your ff a bit scarier but that's kinda what I'm saying
i dont think circle completely removes the sustain
You'll do more damage in your burst but outside of that, it's less
It's not negative damage but it's less oppressive , you won't oom healers
u can never bite with circle
i dont think it makes ur ff do significantly that much more dmg
u still get dot buffs
idk seems like a meme build to me
i think in double dps it makes sense
snupy was running it for double dps, that’s what prompted my question
Unsure if he runs it in 3s, don’t watch him a lot
It's kinda memey yea but idk I was winning as feral hpriest with it
a clickbait feral
But also a content creator so he’s gonna run every build
Yeah lol agree
Not taking his word as gospel, just thought I’d throw it out there
its def a burst meta tho
Official aucat statement: circle feels kinda good, but draught is bis
🫡
but imo
Idk I like circle a lot
if im rocking with another dps
my games arent drawn out
granted we arent super elitre
If in 3s into double melee I like it over draught bc u can multi bleed pretty easy and not cuck your damage as you would with draught
but i just got 4pc and i hopped in a skirm and my dots just ate this hunter while i was stunned
That does sound like a reasonable use case for it
If into casters tho I just go draught cuz you’d rarely be able to get from one ranged target to another to multibleed
Especially if ur with spriest or similar
theres barely any comps where u double bleed now
And like already mentioned the damage effects your frenzy and 4 pc and you’re rarely killing outside of those anyway
Well into any resto druid team if you’re swapping on cen ward
Then it feels decent, plus it swarm is on another target due to split then circle is nice cuz you don’t feel bad dotting them
I tried some frenzyband with kyrian and I think I still prefer eye of symmetry @wise jetty but have to test a bit more
draught is nice for the long game
Nothing about it is salvageable
but what if i want big burst
I hope they make berserk feel better next xpac
cooldown reduction feels so lame when I don’t even like the CD
The only further testing I want to do with frenzyband is making sure I hit my bites while the bleed and frenzy are up as kyrian cuz it’s another 5%+ bite dam as another bleed
I think kyrian is stuck with symmetry
Maybe barkskin lego but that's pushing it
Actually I take that back
idk
So frenzy + rip + rake + 4 pc + frenzyband is 25% higher bites on top of empowerment damage
dont think so u can kill
Sym or circle
But yeah eye is probably better
Yeah
why would u play circle as kyrian
Some kyrian are playing draught and moonfire talent but I think that’s dumb you’d rather go for the bite dam cuz that’s what you’re killing with anyway
Kyrian with mf is dumb imo
Don’t think circles ever gonna be the move
Even kyrian with draught still wouldn't take LI imo
but
I luv kyrian tho
so in stealth: fury rake swarm frenzy rip moonfire beserk shred bite
How
I also love and prefer kyrian man
I just hate to give up sabertooth as kyrian
Sucks that everyone’s just like play necro or troll
I just want to play feral spriest or feral aff in 3s but neither of those two are gonna play with anything other than a mage or war whatever lol
i think
pelagos kyrian ff go
is more dam
than necro
should be right
15% flat dmg
plus 210 mastery from kyrian lego?
also what honor levels do we get pvp forms
It is 100% more dam
With 3 eye bites
But overall way less
Plus outside of berserk eye is like such a tease your button glows like hey your legendary effect check it out but you’ve only got 2 CP lmao
10, 30, 50, 80 https://www.wowhead.com/guides/druid-forms-customization-color-options#artifact-cat-forms-incarnation-of-nightmare
ty
I'd play kyrian if it wasn't so squishy
But I can't justify barkskin lego and necrolord will already die fast enough in this meta and kyrian has no defense OR kiting lol
Iirc LFG is banned here so your post may be deleted
correct
anyone still rock ferocious wound
you made a tos thyme? 
no
Bad unless convoke
true
Also bad unless you're carrying
na just a bot
iam just regular every day normal mfucka
sus
The protpalas both press bubble first global
real alphas
bro
is snupyu
like bad
or did they change interaction with sr and ff ?
cuz hes telling ppl to press sr after ff now
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@lime light @clear pulsar
am i dumb
Cant really call the dude bad if he has the rep he has lol
Being rank 1 doesnt mean you're always right about how the game works lol
FF works as an ignite so SR after FF means it doesnt get buffed by it
no
ye i would say so
FF 'snapshots' literally everything, stats and all
dont stop me now
ghetto gospel
not to hate
proceeds to hate
u are old patron
nop i said no hate invalidates everything u say
its like no homo
same thing
but fuk it i will hate
snupy is dogshit

Lmao
the show must go on
must it patron ?
bro i qd into
mitch xaryu double arcane earlier
on my monk
that shit was aids
Ah yes I too was a victim of that
nono
they were victims
i beat them with the greatest of ease
but took a while
ww into double mage is kinda pepesad
They finally got my DH after 10 minutes of chasing them around lmao
iam proud
It was horrible
that one ?
Nope
feelsbadman
listen this is what u do
u run at mitch
he is bad at living
uses blinks on no stuns
i opened the Puzzle stream
Yeah we got block on xar so we ended up sticking on him
Lmao
mitch is the move
He fiddles 🤷♂️
xar doesnt die
Don’t look at my stuff I stink 😂
Yeah xar was hard to catch but we got block on him so we chased him
poosey assbitch?
whats new tho
shut up noob
ur lucky ur on the noob eu server
i dont play yes
last time i queued with multi glad mw friend, and me on dk, we lost at 1.9k

cuz ruski woyer was dead to everything
cant carry teammates as dk
if they fucked up, they are dead
can only zone
thats it
and its even cringey to pet kick, since the pet does so much damgur
true
wtf is papaoutai
iosnt it
wtf this guy cant write french
thats not french thats uh
from haiti
or w.e
creole?
i smell soo good
Ute papa ute ute ute
@tired shard wanna smell me?
whats up
Yeah begging for a ban for sure
u have a egirl now?
Lmao

iam regular every day normal mfucka
no
thanks for answer

Lmao
that's weird
is it not good?
Bro I swear to god
Maybe it’s normal over there
And you guys say brazil is bad
Problem?
Puzzle you're NA too?
Yup
i mean, i was drunk yesterday like super perma big
5 druid keys when?
face
and we end up
on gasstation
thats not na
and were fighting
True not na
Vidyagame NA
Xaxa
Måneskin - ZITTI E BUONI
A will Ferrell movie
its a vision but in euro
it is
wtf are they saying
thats sounds liek some polka shti
I assumed you were like 300 years old
not wrong
old soul ig
dam u are old patron
just a number
True
That’s why he’s so wise


god dam u two are fruity
ur jealous!
convoke macro casts for .1 s then cancels
guys as a new feral that just came back to the game
You can cancel it by spamming the button. Consider adding /cqs at the end of your macro and
/stopmacro [channeling: convoke the spirits]
In the beginning
how do i start gearing i have like a 210 leggo and 58k hp with 33% vers (old pvp gear)
@wise jetty
nah i dont spam
help me pls
is it safe to play arenas
with 58k hp
or should i do bgs what should i do?
Anything wrong with being homiesexual ?
please stop
don't even try to say below 1800 isn't trying
how does a rsham even
back to back for real?
no u guys are cute
yikes
absterge the real gatekeeper
Oh is that sterge lol
what do you think the going rate is for a carry from him?
0
viewer games
his spellcast totem/earthenwall stack on top of eachother makes it too hard
just kill them
Rsham cant even carry like that lol just dont lose
he outdpsed the 1800 havoc dh
this top 0.1% for the last 7 years in a row resto sham sheesh
Last night I had a rogue completely throw vs thug in the first go and he immediately /afk and left group but I won the 1v2 and he would've gotten 20cr for free if he wasn't an ape
nice
Sad
boomy is good w/ another caster in 2's
boomy ele is strong or boomy lock.. especially boomy destro
I'd go feral with ret either way
Last season I played feral / ret around 2.1
Seemed dece for sure
Just need ppl who know how to play double dps
mhmm
its alot about knowing when to go in and when to peel back and heal and let cooldowns recharge
The biggest thing is sweeping momentum from the start
And then besides that, it's using defensive high and early
And yeah what DJ said
You have 2x the dmg but 1/2 the sustain
So you gotta win fast and run before you get fucked
You'll be cycling in and out with your partner alot, you gotta live while he heals then swap
And try not to let them get overly aggressive
Like if the priest is spamming smite on you, you're prob in trouble
I'm feral so we have 1x the damage and 1x the sustain 🤣
we usually both open on kill target then I peel early for cc
Just sucks all he has is HOJ I need another spammabke cc partner
yeah if you're doing like ret/feral i would suggest using your offesnive cooldowns early, and saving his offensive cooldwosn for after.
like go hard w/ feral frenzy adaptive berserk, and hoj on the non kill target, then when your damage is over, you go incap roar - > cyclone that target while your ret blows their cooldowns
wooo
the fully geared mordor life is the real game
you can still get sockets from vault. thats worth while yet
Ok good I've decided to play bear aff every game. The spirit of gorecki feral aff is gone from my body and replaced with gilysel bear dampening. I have no pride left. This expansion has annihilated my soul.
na i mean full full gear
like i have all sockets already
and full gear
xd
listen with 240 ilvl might aswell go guard aff no cap
u are gonna look juicy
ye im horde
ima go alliance in a couple weeks after im done withs quests
but for now horde
Guys I'm going higher haste with circle
Just want more upfront dam in my double dps
feral
haste is not gonna be more dam than mastery
savage roar should be a CD
it kinda is... its essentially tiger's fury
and its based on CP's so its limited by that instead of just time
we're already energy starved
yes its a legendary
Xanshi
Return of archbishop benedictus,
There’s some ways of countering it but still a major pain in the ass
Cc their dps so they can’t heal, making them los, or hope they don’t heal enough so u can one tap them before they fade insta full heal
If they full heal then it’s gg 
yeah. they can cancel it early though
so its like.. you cant really just insta stun before fade
anyone else play rogue/feral?
Tho apparatus is still annoying 
how do you counter this 😦 Q_Q
15 games so far and 11 of them have had a holy priest.... help meeeee lmao
kill their partners
dont think feral is a class thats particularly good a killing priests
No need to kill a priest till its Hunter priest
💀
5 point rip into feign death HA
feign every 15 
Wait are u fucking serious
God this game man
Fuck bear aff actually
I'm ascending to new levels of feral aff rdruid
This likes of which have NEVER BE4 BEEN SEEN ON THIS EARTH
Ascend then teach me 😂
you just press feral frenzy if they feign rip
oh wait they have mending bandage bound?

I am resto druid but ya mending bandage too HAHA 
Hi, standing at vault. would you guys go for item you already have with 71 leech on top or a socket ?
pretty sure random assigned secondary stats like that don't work in pvp
6 tokens gives you a socket
if the random stats dont work at all, decision is easy. thanks a lot
not that they dont work at all
just not in arena
not the stats that get randomly assigned anyway
Never knew that, so socket it is
Should have been able to check that easily as it means that my speed shouldnt work as well
so speed works from various things
the cloak enchant
gems
and the 262 ring that comes with speed, that is manually put on, but not randomly assigned (not sure if that makes sense)
just if you get gear that gets random stat, that supposedly doesn't work
I been readnig up on it in the last day is how i know lol
wanted to put a bunch of speed gems in to try
I will queue and look at stats now, never did :=) Thanks a lot
so supposedly the old speed gems work 5% and 3% but they dont show in your character tab
there is a script you can run to show how fast you are moving though
Yep, works. I did not test the 3%one though 🤔
I think I tried the 3 and 5 and they don’t stack but it’s been a while could be wrong
They def stack
Oh? Good to know thx
Any recommended WAs for feral pvp?
i think circle might be better when playing against double dps
my dam is so low in these quick matches
can anyone explain ladder inflation and why its easier to hit higher rating with inflation?
I think its reverse
@vale bane Last season I would go 50-50 during a session and gain like 30-80 points. That doesn’t appear to be the case right now, or Atleast not to last seasons degree. 50-50 I end up pretty much where I started. I’m sure someone else can really explain how it works
im 1400 if i play against ppl 2k i cant learn bc i just get clapped too fast
if i play 1600 ppl i have a better shot to atleast learn what i did wrong
how do i kite surv hunters
i pop everything cant get away still die
any melee yea
So you just dont understand what inflation means
bigbraintime
after reading i see how it affects the ratings gained
i understand
i believe what i said stands true tho 1800 could be closer to 2k if ratings are inflated
or maybe reverse idk
no need to patronize me or tyreat me like a lil baby boo boo bear
If ladder runs from 1000 to 3200 rating, then 1800 rating is further from the top than if the ladder runs from 1000 to 2900 rating.
Seek therapy? I didnt say anything like that lol
🙏 
but if u dont get elpatronized
u will never be a part of this channel
elpatron's channel
don pablo
Just El Patron
sorry i do be sensitive these dfays
It's ok me too
pisces boy
Ur good man 👍
I'm only human yall furries gone too far s2g
REAL
It's just a fun time I dont rly believe in that garbage
im facing real nightmare on 2s against bm hunters/resto druids and against dhs holy priests
dhs are usually pumping more dmg than me
😂
Well apparently they got bugged/broken rn so
yeah i heard their first eye beam reduces their meta duration instead of increasing it, and the subsequent one just do nothing, or smth along those lines
Yeah I don’t know much about it. But they tried to fix something with vengeance. Broke havoc. And now eyebeam doesn’t extend meta or something lol
how do u lose to dh as ww tho
cope
I can't kite DHs for shit
I spend too much time in bear 😦
I think ferals all about momentum
gotta use every clearcast on root basically
Open fast
clear cast root, then clone
Fucking thorns
BOP
Clear cast RG
Doesn't matter
I'm going circle for 2s
My damage just doesn't have time to ramp
so yeah let's hear the hate
Honestly I need to be more aggressive with staying on them in bear
Maul frenzied thorns
Iwas listening then u started talking about osrs
And that 8% HP attack
exactly
gimme gimme
Does anyone use a predatory swiftness WA? Wondering if there's any people recommend
Sry I'm a group iron
How much money u need tho I got a main
You can make one whichever way you like, it's pretty easy thru the 'Template' option when you go to make one
You can find almost every buff/cooldown you want to setup a weakaura to track
What server you on in wow?
dam group iron sounds fun
im a bit scattered depends which class u want
Does anyone have any good macros for necro pvp? Aside from basic focus macros?
Feji shadapa
On my 2nd go should I fury swarm and line up with frenzy on next one
Or always fury frenzy swarm
always fury frenzy swarm

theres no benefit to splitting up your modifiers
amen
🙏 
That's callous
@safe heart so you hold tf and swarm for 15 and 20 sec?
Instead of ff for...15 I think?
chances are swarm could already be on for next ff
also true
Does Flourish work through smoke bomb as long as I am (technically) in my mates line of sight ?
Don’t think you even need line of sight tbh
But I don’t read tooltips or test maybe @clear pulsar knows conclusively 😂
yeah. i typically want my go's every 30s in 2's. it means having varying levels of actual damage but theres no perfect way to work the cooldowns on adaptive / TF / FF / beserk / Trinket ... its like first GO is everything, 30seconds later its TF / Adaptive .... 3rd go is TF / FF / Trinket 4th go is just TF / Adaptive again... 5th go is ideally everything again.
Yes.
It wont extend hots but you will get the faster ticks
I just got deleted by a lock in .5 seconds
what do I do if I'm getting trained by double melee
as feral?
try and gtfo. if you dont have mobility ready, try and cc with incap roar, stuns, or roots, if you cant do that, ask for help from teammates... maybe they can fear both or aoe root both, or something similar or life grip is really useful... if none of that is available then yeah, bear up and be useless for a bit
i dont like risking cyclone if im being trained by double melee, getting stunned out of form or just taking damaage out of form for 1.5s is brutal. if you can double cc with incap or double stun or something similar its safe-ish to go for cyclone but really be careful of trying for it.
this kid running frenzy just destoryed me
Frenzyband?
yeah he had big beserk
Frenzyband doesn't do anything foe your berserk
Just helps you shave off like 10s on the cd
makes u do the extra bleed
The bleed from frenzyband is pretty weak I've heard
150% of a whole shred you say?
right and its buffed 80% in zerk





