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stray sigil
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why are ppl playing this

hoary axle
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Is nightfae the go to ?

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It looks fun

stray sigil
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play what u think looks fun

edgy shale
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Nf is fun but u live and die by voke RNG

stray sigil
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i dont think its rng

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if u get it off it will kill ppl

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just need to work on getting it off

hoary axle
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Makes sense! 😄 imma learn it

edgy shale
# stray sigil i dont think its rng

yea of course setups aren't RNG, but sometimes u will get a 1 bite voke even with a perfect setup and it just feels like shit. also sometimes i just rando voke cuz im frustrated and the 1st 3 spels are crit bites and ppl just die

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its just an annoying spell to rely on

safe heart
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Ever sent a 32k bite into kevin?

edgy shale
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yea ive had bites go on the most stupid targets

viscid remnant
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Hi

visual mica
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For resto druid pvp, where do we craft leggos now?
Verdant infusion back
Unity ?

winged forge
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unity on belt is pretty nice in general, little interference with other legos, decent stats and free socket

livid wasp
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guess having just 2-set as feral is a waste of time?

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if you lose vers

obtuse bramble
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Has anybody else tried to play Draught in 2s as an RDruid? Feels pretty good actually. A Swiftment boosted Rejuv ticks for over 5k. Since Verdant Infusion feels shit anyways due to not keeping alive my Cenward anyways...
I have had it left over from that char having initially been feral, so I thought I'd try it out.

Was just Mordor rating though.

livid wasp
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is haste preferred over crit for ferals nowadays?

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I havent paid attention to stats lol

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just gone for vers maste

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thinking haste is useless

pallid coral
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as necro feral haste is better than crit yes

livid wasp
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I have 23% crit and 0% haste kek

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I wonder how bad it actually is

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snupy uses a 242 aspirant chest apparently just to have the haste instead of crit

boreal sequoia
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How are boomies now with their 4set in arenas, feel like cant put pressure

narrow crane
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He’s using the aspirant cause it’s same ilvl as last season’s max pvp chest

livid wasp
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isnt it like 7 ilvl lower

obtuse bramble
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it isn't

livid wasp
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maybe it increases to same ilvl in pvp idk

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armory doesnt tell that

obtuse bramble
livid wasp
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apparently you get 1 more rake tick with 15% haste

obtuse bramble
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huh

tardy hare
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yeah not worth the effort

livid wasp
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0.2sec faster clones tho

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and faster energy regen and faster attack speed

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dunno if its worth trading 10% crit for it tho

real coral
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Best leggo for convoke feral?

lime light
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Game so bad

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The dogshit op trinket casters

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Everywhere

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Cant have fun

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They should never allow

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Double casters or double melee

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To queue up together

obtuse bramble
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I'd love that change, actually :D

viscid remnant
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ye thats good

obtuse bramble
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melee+ranage+heal

lime light
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Back in the days, a lot of teams were based on range and melee

viscid remnant
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but then ever1 would play rmp

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so delete rogue

obtuse bramble
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slotting out tanks

viscid remnant
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gg solved

obtuse bramble
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nerfing rmp

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doing something weird with hunters, dunno

lime light
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U cant purge, rmp from this game

viscid remnant
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@lime light i get 0 tier from box ofc but i get lfr tier on my pala same piece as legendary

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fun or not

obtuse bramble
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make DB one minute and share DR with sheep

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remove the rogue stealth shield

viscid remnant
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increase kidney duration

obtuse bramble
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CD

viscid remnant
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i mean

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cd

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XD

obtuse bramble
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yeh, all combined should work :>

main roost
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so I converted two main set PvP pieces on two different characters with the creation catalyst. but I didn’t get the corresponding PvE set transmog. has this happened to anyone else? >.>

tardy hare
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Relog?

main roost
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no luck

viscid remnant
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open a tricket and start complainng

main roost
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imma do just that

forest kite
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right so is my logic right here : I dont have any tier right now. Is it best to wait with crafting a tierpiece till next vault to see whats in the vault ? and then craft accordingly

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so I dont craft for instance chest now, and get same in vault

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since I cant use the bonus this week anyway, since only 1 piece

viscid remnant
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Do lfr and or normal heroic

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And get a tier

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Then craft

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Gg

forest kite
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alright, good idea thx

flat imp
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So you can get versatility on any tier piece. Where are all the salty ppl that flamed me when i told a guy to get chestpiece legendary :)

viscid remnant
clear pulsar
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Lol

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He gone

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Nowhere to be seen

forest kite
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If you convert a conquest item to set item, will the set item scale too with wm on or in arena/bg?

grand mesa
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Yes

forest kite
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that would make converted conquest items the best set items I would say

short fjord
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If you’re primarily a pvper then yes

forest kite
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Arcane is really bad?

viscid remnant
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no point to play it

tropic schooner
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what so ever

lime light
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i mean, maybe dont touch arcane

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i can feel it being broken af with the new trinkets 🙂

viscid remnant
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playing arcane is like

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being crippled

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when u can be usain bolt

tropic schooner
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like the arcane number Id be willing to believe, the tank ones I dont

lime light
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good shit iam not playing my main anymore

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cuz on my feral

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its like 7th weekly

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still not a single tier

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i would be mad

viscid remnant
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i have 2 pc on my priest elpatron

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but shoulder from lfr

lime light
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what ilvl is the item

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u can get from the catalyst

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or w/e

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do i buy pvp

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lets say chest

viscid remnant
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ye

lime light
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and upgrade it?

viscid remnant
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u buy conquest chest

lime light
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or dont upgrade

viscid remnant
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and u can upgrade it normally

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this is my tier on priest i catalysted

lime light
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oh ye, but its gonna be my first tier

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so

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actually my shaman is like

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2 weeks old

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and i have a tier and can craft the 2nd one

viscid remnant
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gg

clear pulsar
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Turn to tier first

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Then upgrade after

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So you unlock more mogs

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From raid

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Or well

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Upgrading will t urn the item into your raid tier mog, but if you want the pvp item mog instead, which are usually other classes' sets, then upgrade before turning to tier I guess

lime light
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dogshit system

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7 days cd

viscid remnant
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even when they fix the game

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its still timegated

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thats the most blizzard shit in life

junior plover
viscid remnant
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"fix"

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now all thats left is tune some classes right

lime light
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i need to do lfr Davider @viscid remnant

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cuz dk is 3/4

viscid remnant
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i did on priest+pala alrdy

lime light
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the dh one is huge XD

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prolly the biggest 2 set in the game

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with hpal, ww's one

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on the top

viscid remnant
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ye tru actually

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but my dh is so awful

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icant play with any1 from lfg 0gear

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msg me when ur done with tbc raid XD

remote gyro
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how much does the catalyst thing cost

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2k?

viscid remnant
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i think it depends on the piece

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but its like 1-2k i think , glove cost me 1200

lime light
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we can do like few bosses on lfr

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or some other shit

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i have like 30 min

viscid remnant
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lfr might be more than that

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but whateveruwant

lime light
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thats how dead tbc is

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the guild is legit

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3 raid grps

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but no one logs anymore KEKW

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only 5 min before raid

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like myself

viscid remnant
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nothing 2 do but raidlog

clear pulsar
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Complain about game that doesnt require you to do anything to progress character power

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Complain about game that keeps you logging in to do other things for character power

viscid remnant
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nothing is good

clear pulsar
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Do you guys never stop complaining about game?

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Bitches

viscid remnant
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TBC is good

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the problem is that

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gearing is impossible without doing raid

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retail is not bad either

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except the rng of tier

lime light
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ye but the prorgression for me is getting new pices or upgrading their ilvl

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and the set bonus damage boost

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is like comparing season 2 gear to season 3 gear

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like almost whole new lvl

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the feral set can be easly

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your 3rd dps

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or 4th

clear pulsar
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I agree sets are all overtunrd

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But you only complain everyday about every game

lime light
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thats how this game works

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but hold up

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iam not zechey

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all i do is complaine about

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caster trinket and rmp

viscid remnant
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forgor hunter

lime light
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ah ye

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true

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ok so maybe play 2s for 30 min

viscid remnant
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ok

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i go holy ? X

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D

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imean

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kyrian

lime light
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i think i do

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holy

viscid remnant
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igot renown up to like 63

lime light
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i wanna play enh

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got new 2 set

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or hpal

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ok so what

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i can log dk

viscid remnant
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idont care

lime light
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but what

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are u logged

viscid remnant
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priest

lime light
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ok i log druid then

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or not

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i wanna play dk

viscid remnant
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go dk then

lime light
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i dont wanna play feral til l4 set

viscid remnant
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do u know what nf reduces for u

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or i go other cov

lime light
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no clye

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clue prolly abomb or freanzy

viscid remnant
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apoca

lime light
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not so great

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its 30 sec cd

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i even deathstrike into mindgames

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dont care

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wtf

viscid remnant
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bots

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@lime light cov ability with PI is big pump

lime light
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it is ye

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but it can be cc'ed

lime light
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maybe i play assa also yes? @viscid remnant

viscid remnant
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XD

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if u want idk

lime light
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gotta have few days off

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and its good for my brain to do some gaming

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for a bit i think

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to think about other things

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make my brain busy

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and the weather is gonna be shit, so cant cycling

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tbh i kinda wanna play hpriest feral in 2s more, but then i dont have foking 4 set @viscid remnant

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this shit looks kinda fun, u just go healer, and hpriest cc dps, so braindead

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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idk elpatron

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u think that

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but then play against hunter

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and gg

stray sigil
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u zerk on hunter

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he removes ur 3min bleed

rustic thorn
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Is the clearcast regrowth conduit bad? I see not many people are running it

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
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Especially if you have 2p now, the swiftmend conduit is godawful with it

main roost
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^

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i’m running it now too

rustic thorn
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Sorry should have clarified for feral

main roost
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o

clear pulsar
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O

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Feral's clearcast doesnt affect regrowth

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Those are different things

stray sigil
rustic thorn
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Is that not the clearcast regrowth you get after using a finisher?

stray sigil
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nop

clear pulsar
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That's a predatory swiftness proc

stray sigil
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its the free mana regrwoth clearcast from resto

rustic thorn
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Ohhhh got it

clear pulsar
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Feral clearcast is the free shred

rustic thorn
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I thought it was buffing predatory swiftness proc regrowth by 20+%

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And was like why are people not using this

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But got it makes sense thanks

lime light
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@viscid remnant oh ye i actually

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forgor about hunters

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dont wanna play anymore

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also not gonna make assa

stray sigil
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hunters just shit on everyone

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i thought itd be kinda fun on ww

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but bonedust

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😦

remote gyro
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go kyrian then

safe heart
narrow crane
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Boomies; which caster alts do you play?

stray sigil
remote gyro
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has been played in awc

viscid remnant
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Kyrian is meme

remote gyro
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why

stray sigil
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in 2s

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lol

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kyrian like only good in 3s

remote gyro
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care to elaborate why

viscid remnant
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because u die

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without fleshyc

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got him again

lime light
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kyrian ww is good

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u gonna die anyway as necro

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just bondust lego

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is overtuned in pv

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pvp

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it procs with every hit u do

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but overall bondust was nerfed

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cuz it cant crit anymore

remote gyro
# viscid remnant without fleshyc

and kyrian has phial. I don't dispute that necro in general is more tanky but calling it a "meme" is a stretch. kyrian was the de facto choice for all of 9.0 and I don't think it suddenly became a meme after bonedust lego/buff.

viscid remnant
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u do u

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but if i see a ww and hes kyrian would most likely not play with him

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its just worse imo

stray sigil
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2min gos

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vs 1min god

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gos

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tell me which one sounds better

lime light
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but u have the big go

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that never ends

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and can score a kill

viscid remnant
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1mins go u can 1shot someone every 1min

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I could see kyrian being good if u play ww dk with unholy mayne

lime light
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not true

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both are good ways

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just different

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kind of goes

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but i would still personaly play necro

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but my ww is on vacation

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but ww is in a good state for 2s

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but terrible in 3s - depends on the queue tho

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think we did like 26:1 this ssn

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first day, so most ppl were try hards af

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playing for food - mentality

rare willow
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ww is just all or nothing on GO's. you either 100-0 the target in less than 1 second or you are absolutely non threatening and doing 9900 apm trying to survive

short fjord
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I used to love ww but I can’t get into it this xpac idk why

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I miss old tod

viscid remnant
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how do u beat magelock priest as jungle

rare willow
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what spec mage and what spec lock ?

viscid remnant
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what do u think

rare willow
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mostly ive found just hitting whatever over extends

livid wasp
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can someone tell me what is it that makes mm hunter randomly oneshot you

rare willow
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frost / destro? idk ive seen fire ml/x and demo and aff too

viscid remnant
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frost destro

livid wasp
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with rapid fire and shit

rare willow
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double tap is the scary thing

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double tap makes rapid fire deal double damage basically

viscid remnant
rare willow
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^^

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if hes necro yeah death chakram is the key thing to watch its a huge buff

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frost destro i literally just pillar and when they over extend kick their teeth in. both can die really easily, a full row of bleeds w/ any cc is usually ice block at least.

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make sure to decurse every havoc

viscid remnant
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u go pillar

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they spam blizzard

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and rain of fire

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all taht shit

rare willow
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yeah its annoying but you aint dying from rain of fire

livid wasp
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why cant the visuals of oneshot abilities be more clear

rare willow
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because blizzard UI is absolute garbage

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lol in every thing, blizzard ui is no where near adequate.. pve... pvp.... even just questing blizzard ui fails so hard.

livid wasp
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fucking ridiculous how you have to rely on some 3rd party addons

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how else am I supposed to see MM is going to oneshot me

rare willow
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espically if they do it all from stealth! lol

viscid remnant
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without losing 100% of games

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@rare willow faced it again and won

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its rly sketchy

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i guess we played better tho

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can go mage fairly easily

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he was playing like an idiot

livid wasp
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every day im like im gonna play arenas now and not get pissed but its impossible

viscid remnant
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thats just how it be

rare willow
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yeah thats what im saying @viscid remnant you kinda gotta bait them into playing like dummies. pull back, mage 9/10 times just yolo blinks in behind the pillar and you blow him up

viscid remnant
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its so cringe

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why are there so many fucking wizard comps

livid wasp
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why is DH/rsham so broken

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fucking cant kill the resto shaman

viscid remnant
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rsham tettleslul

livid wasp
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DH just does too much dmg by himself

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impossible to beat

main roost
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haven’t played in a week or two. does dh/rsham feel stronger than dh/hpriest once elemental pet is over?

warm root
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U die to dh and elemental so easy.. i hate this fast paced meta shit

rare willow
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if they removed that stupid resolve trinket at least half of the ML/X teams would disappear instantly

viscid remnant
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Ye

warm root
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Elemental from sham is really stupid too

rare willow
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meh. ele is really weak

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the only thing elemental has is Vesper Totem 1 shotting people for like literally 75k

warm root
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How is vesper working?

clear pulsar
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Kitty means the earth elemental

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Probably talking about dh rsham 2s

lime light
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there used to be few modifier bugs - on mm hunters

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opener mostly

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plenty of their spells had pvp mods, and they were not active in opener

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but it was early season

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maybe its fixed now

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but mostly their dmg comes from double fap

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ye

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i dont agree about - ele is really weak

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their dmg is super good

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their issue is survi

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but so -a lot of classes has it

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there are eles pumping 5.5k dps

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without tier yet

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and there is also one thing i noticed

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there is some mid tier teams playing dh destro

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and so on, the dh glaive gives u additional dmg on random magic school

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and chaos school is "everything"

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so kinda makes sense PogCat

clear pulsar
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El patron is wise beyond his years

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🙏 verysadcat

viscid remnant
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🙏VerySadCat

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Wait

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Thats why

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The talent is good

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Because dh does chaos dmg too

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I never knew

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It was like this

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What would i do without the infinite wisdom of el patron ? 🙏VerySadCat

lime light
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nothing

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but iam here

viscid remnant
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🙏VerySadCat

lime light
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i see ppl starting to play disc

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i guess they have 4 set now

clear pulsar
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They're expecting the hpriest nerf hammer already

rare willow
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OH sorry. @warm root and @clear pulsar good call. my bad i didnt understand at all.

vesper works that its a totem with 6 charges, every action you perform while the totem is out triggers a damage charge from the totem. and every 3rd damage charge from the totem is MASSIVE. ele can literally do like 75k crits on the 3rd and 6th totem charge.

@lime light i seriously think elemental is one of the worst pvp specs in the game. they pump 5.5k dps but they have no kill potential outside of dampening as Necrolord and as kyrian all they have is vesper. any cleave can just W key at an elemental and win. And even with wizards, that resolve trinket hard counters ele in a big way...

lime light
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i dont agree about ele

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and why would u play kyrian

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when necro is super good

rare willow
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necro isnt super good and kyrian is the only thing that will land a kill. even top ele's have said that ele is garbage

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and i never see ele's on ladder, i know representaion doesnt mean much but like... war / dh / hunters / rouge / mage / all the time..

lime light
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yes necro noooo g000d for ele YEP

clear pulsar
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Top 'everyspec' has said 'everyspec' is garbage

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To be fair

lime light
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with the tier, lego and soulbind

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the fire ele uptime is huge

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and its super scary cd

rare willow
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its 100% and +20% damage while its out

lime light
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that most of the ppl just ignore

stray sigil
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ya u have perma uptame

rare willow
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but its still meaningless

clear pulsar
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We get it dj you play elemental

rare willow
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buffing a 7k lava burst by 20% isnt anything

clear pulsar
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You ask the feral players here they'll say feral is garbo unplayable too

stray sigil
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ya then u get

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7k

rare willow
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no i play feral.

stray sigil
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6 times in a row

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so does it matter if its only 7k

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lol

rare willow
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thats only 42k damage

clear pulsar
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Shit you ask sub rogues they'll act like sub rogue can't 100-0 anything

stray sigil
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???

rare willow
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thats still less than 1 feral frenzy

stray sigil
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thats like insta dmg tho

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lol

rare willow
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nah to get 6 in a row you need like 4gcds

stray sigil
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or rng

fair mirage
rare willow
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nah you canat rng that much

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in mop you could rng 7 lava bursts, but not in slands

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its litearlly at least 4gcds to put out that 42k damage.

lime light
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i think u forgot about mastery

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and flameshock ticking

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and fire elemental hitting

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all the time

rare willow
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flameshock ticks for 700 damage

viscid remnant
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U ask any rmpiss player if their comp is overtuned they will say its perfectly balanced

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I still dont understand why blizzard added this islam trinket

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Only comp that uses it is rmp

stray sigil
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islam trinekt i like that

rare willow
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im hoping that was a typo. thats pretty cringe to call it that

lime light
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@viscid remnant i take a shower and we go for some wild lfr :D?

viscid remnant
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Ok iguess

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iam sorry

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terrorist trinket*

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💀

remote gyro
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careful with that edge homie

rare willow
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oof. yikes.

clear pulsar
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If I made that joke thyme woulda banned me for 12h

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100%

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Man's out for my blood everytime I talk in this chat

lime light
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need those two

viscid remnant
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ye im so edgy i make 1 joke

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simmer down

surreal heron
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calm down there buddy

clear pulsar
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Sorry

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Maybe not 12h

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But I think 4h min

surreal heron
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we don't do temp bans so inherently wrong

lime light
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@viscid remnant ok lfr?

viscid remnant
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1sec logging

lime light
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man this shit sucks

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need 2 of them

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and they are last bosses in both wings

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XD

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nvm anduin is first

viscid remnant
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ye go anduin wing because all bosses drop ther

lime light
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but iam out after first ok

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ofc no enchant

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on weapon

viscid remnant
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ye

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cuz im legendary

lime light
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need 2.4k in 2s

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on my dk

viscid remnant
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wait how are u only 1.7 in 2s

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werent u like 1.9 yesterday

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or today

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idk

lime light
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idk

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i played only few games

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and it was

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as 215 ilvl

viscid remnant
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didnt we play

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today

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and win a few

lime light
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i dont think so, dk has any losing matchups beside mm hunter and furry

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ye we did

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around 2k mmr

viscid remnant
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o mmr was higher i guess

high cypress
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Ia 4 set guardian still nasty in arena?

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Or did they fix them?

surreal heron
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baer is pedantic, that's just proper wording

viscid remnant
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pedantic thats quite exquisite

pallid coral
viscid remnant
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Thyme knows me sort of but i dont think its good for me

fair mirage
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Servers in shambles.

clear pulsar
#

Same

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I was blasting

livid wasp
#

why are some priests 2.4k xp then they trinket in the same go 2 seconds after my trinket

safe heart
#

Dh

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Hunter

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Main reasons

fair mirage
#

i mean i knew several locks who went from 2500 bfa to legit 1800 with 1500+ games played in early bfa

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people basing their single highest exp one time especially if it's not even on the same class kind of sketch

livid wasp
#

but I mean imagine that mistake against rogue/mage

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I might as well just /afk out when they do that in the first go

fair mirage
#

kind of like all the "glads" from last season who are inting at like 2k now

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and flaming everybody

livid wasp
#

cause im dead next go 100%

fair mirage
#

actually 2k rn is like 2600 last season

livid wasp
#

D: you said the word

safe heart
#

I was glad last season and I'm stuck at like 18 - 19

livid wasp
#

the bad word

safe heart
#

Yeah I said it

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REEEEE

livid wasp
#

wow pvp devs might be insulted by it

safe heart
#

Well so that kinda works then

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I was 2.5, stuck at 18 - 19

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In 3s
I got 2050 in 2s

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And I was 2399 in 2s last szn

livid wasp
#

you need a good priest to go 2.1k and you need a rank 1 priest to go anywhere above that

fair mirage
#

They should never let seasons get that inflated

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glad being top 10k players is fucking fried

safe heart
#

Eh I'm glad it was attainable even if ppl don't wanna count it

fair mirage
#

Glad last season was freer than old elite sets LMAO

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there being a 1000-1200 point rift between participation glad and named glad is also cracked

safe heart
#

Yeah I mean whatever reasoning is fine, I got the mount which is cool to me

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I'll earn it this season hopefully

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But If I only get consolation glad , I'll be happy too

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Almost my entire pvp circle got glad last season , we were all hype

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Even with the 3k locks gate keeping it

rare willow
#

i kinda wish they just went back to % titles

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3% duelist, .5% glad .1% rank1 glad

livid wasp
#

just give rank 1 to the guy who is really rank 1

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or guys

safe heart
#

Top rated person for each class

rare willow
#

that would be a cool thing too.

safe heart
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My favorite title is elite druid haha

fair mirage
rare willow
#

that would be a good fix too

safe heart
#

You just don't want me to be glad do you

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This is a conspiracy

fair mirage
#

Idk why it isn't already, 2400 is already elite plus tabard

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glad being top 10,000 and r1 being like top 150 is FRIED

safe heart
#

Do you lose tabard after the fact ?

fair mirage
#

u keep tabard and cloak

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or maybe cloak is 2100 idk

rare willow
#

ill be honest, i had no idea there was a cloak

safe heart
#

Well despite teapot trying to keep me down I shall prevail and never give up
🙏 VerySadCat

rare willow
#

this is the first im hearing about that lol

livid wasp
#

who tf has cloaks visible

safe heart
#

I like nzoth backpack

fair mirage
#

Yeah, but they're able to control it to some degree.

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See last season where participation was in ruins but 3.4k cutoff

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s1 did get out of control pretty quickly, but them rugging it was also detrimental

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maybe % titles were the solution, but it used to be the gap between like elite set and glad was huge

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now it's between glad and r1 with the dragon being too easy

fair mirage
#

I just think that it's unfortunate that they 10x the amount of dragons that went out in addition to making it account-wide

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But yeah an incentive between glad and r1 would be super cool

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it's just r1s on their xth alts floating around in that void

livid wasp
#

ridiculous how hard its to find a holy priest

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considering its like the most played class

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atm

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and why is fury warr so broken

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way too tanky

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just impossible to beat fury warr/hpal

fair mirage
#

lmao

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also stop playing 2s

livid wasp
#

same for rsham/dh

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like wtf is that

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so broken

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I go for rsham and root DH and I just die while my priest isnt even cced

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do show me how to beat fury warr then if its so easy for you

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we did fear stun combos on pala and went warrior

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but he just doesnt die

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way too fucking tanky

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then pala always has sac or some shit for him

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or then the priest was fucking ass

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another priest who is 2.4k xp

#

but cant do anything

fair mirage
#

just play jungle and eat the rsham lmao

livid wasp
#

aff lock dots should only work on 1 target really

livid wasp
#

the dots are way too strong to be able to be applied on many targets

haughty compass
#

Hey look

livid wasp
#

feels like its just a loss against them if you dont finish the game in 3 mins

#

dots too much for dampening

rare willow
#

run from cds, spam decurse. force dark pact without feral frenzy and gg

livid wasp
#

I played with disc he goes oom super fast tho

rare willow
#

😦 idk then

livid wasp
#

I feel like running and waiting for damp works well against destro but aff lock idk

rare willow
#

its not about waiting on damp, its more like frost mage w/ deathborne. if they pop their stuff, you just gotta pillar for a bit. if you're out there eating dark soul damage you are going to die so fast

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priest can keep you up for a while but it might be whats burning their mana

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just pillar and wait for his cds to fall of and yours to regen.

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it really is

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its nuts

fair mirage
#

Uh, they could maybe nerf the duration conduit in PvP

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so people don't have to run for a fucking minute

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cleaving frost bolts plus resolve and shimmer during veins is

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actual terror

rare willow
#

^

fair mirage
#

two 0.85 second casts and two people eat 2 25k hits and get rng slowed

livid wasp
#

best thing about not doing 3s is not having to deal with that frost mage/lock ridiculousness

fair mirage
#

Jungle seems good into it, though, no?

livid wasp
#

dunno takes so much coordination to not fuck up the resolve trinks

lime light
#

But u can root it on cd

stray sigil
#

ya but then u cant heal

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😄

#

poog

lime light
#

Ye, iam not saying the trinket is not overpowered broken no skill

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But that u can get ride of IT by yourself

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Internal CD on it -> 30 or 45 sec

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CC duration +35%

lethal python
#

Coming back from first patch of SL and can't decide between feral/resto or my hunter. Any thoughts?

lime light
#

Fuck em

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Hunter is the strongest by far

#

Feral and resto are equally good

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In both brackets

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Rdru with 4 set is broken

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Ferals 4 set is rly good also, but there is plenty ways to get ride of the dot

lethal python
#

Yea I usually go feral for arenas and resto for BGs/RBGs. Feral is by far my favorite spec in the game

lime light
#

So why u asking

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Play what u like

#

Simple as that

lethal python
#

Because if it's underpowered, it's not fun losing constantly lol

safe heart
#

feral maybe underpowered but im OP so fuck it

stray sigil
tiny oar
fair mirage
#

My hpriest got 4pc this week, seems like most power is in the 2pc

brave shuttle
#

When you say resto 4p broken: can you elaborate? Is it cc immunity or the buff to heals and slight mana reduction? @lime light

edgy shale
#

completely ignoring glyph who says it isn't...a true disciple of el patron's channel i respect it

clear pulsar
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Rdru is the 4th best healer in the game

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Aka broken i guess

brave shuttle
#

Ah sorry @vestal citrus 🙂 I was scrolling down and had to ask

edgy shale
#

i mean, its el patron's channel. so asking him to clarify something is fine

rigid basin
#

I understand extra hot from 2p boosts our mastery and gives a bit of purge protection.. but WTF is it healing so low (272 pvp ilvl)

main roost
#

i wanna hear all the positive thoughts about the rdru 4 set. i need hope to cling to while facing the onslaught of hpriests

obtuse bramble
#

how much does it affect the swiftment healing? I have no set yet to test it on my rdruid alt

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ah yes, the swiftment is increased by the mastery as well, so it's not that huge of a loss

clear pulsar
#

On that note I think swiftmend conduit is huge bait with 2p, but pvpers will take 4 months to realize

obtuse bramble
#

Since I don't have the 2pc yet, I still use it, but have it sceduled to be replaced :P

clear pulsar
#

I dont think most r1 rdrus ever actually read every conduit theyxhave

obtuse bramble
#

has anybody experimented with Draught on RDruid? I semi-accidentally used it last session and got my rejuvs to tick for 5.6k with sotf

clear pulsar
#

Like how in some arena cup 3 or 4 pikaboo was just reading his soulbind traits for the first time

obtuse bramble
#

yeh, Draught makes everything very micro-managery

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especially in 3s

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where I ended up actively removing rejuvs with swiftment to have the boosted rejuv on the focus target

#

but yeh, that's mordor rating with my mordor friends and I not using our shit properly anyways

rare willow
# lime light But that u can get ride of IT by yourself

yeah. it just takes a little extra coordination to deal with. i had to make a rule that my hunter isnt allowed to interrupt the lock and to save it for the mage or healer cuz if they interrupt something when i dont have a root ready or the energy/combo points to get a root it can really snowball into bad things. Like if my hunter kicks a fear, and i dont have root, thats almost certainly a couple chaos bolts to the dome on someone which isnt great.

and if both the mage and lock are running the trinket, theres no way you can deal w/ both resolves... even as a team you just dont have the tools to keep both resolves in check, best you can do is just try to lock down the target and run like hell when the other pops cooldowns

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
#

Hi

astral shell
#

Hello!

tropic schooner
rigid basin
#

what row 3 talent is best to take for 2s: feral or guardian affinity ?
I mainly play with a DH friend of mine, and don't want to mess stun DRs in cat form. Is feral affinity helps with damage a lot ?

viscid remnant
#

Guardian safer

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Kind of depends on the match up too

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If ur dh will go healer and dps will go u guardian best obviously

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If u can free restealth and they dont go u feral is good

rigid basin
#

feral aff is only about the stun from stealth and maim ? or does it actually increase my damage contribution ?

main roost
#

feral affinity also requires knowledge of when is best to go for goes. like, if you don’t or mess it up you could throw the game by unnecessarily putting yourself in a cc chain

viscid remnant
#

But its not a lot of dmg

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Unless u rip rake moonfire adaptive swarm

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Even then i dont think its much

#

Its not rly for the dmg its for rake and maim

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And the movespeed is nice too

rigid basin
#

Yeah.. ms is nice 😄

#

Thanks mate! That is really what I was thinking.. but was hard to judge alone 🙂

lime light
#

Lmao pigs

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If u think rdru with 4 set

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Isn't best ape to log

#

U are right

clear pulsar
#

🙏 verysadcat

#

El patron infinite wisdom evrytiem

viscid remnant
#

🙏VerySadCat

north yew
#

Lol wtf is up with DH this season. Their damage and self heal is insane. How do you even counter them as a resto druid? I did almost 2m healing in a 2s and lost

viscid remnant
#

Have to spam root/clone them

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And get ur teammate to slow them

lime light
#

But srlsy

#

4 set resto is good

#

Nothing special tho

grand mesa
#

Mass entangle

#

They reverse every other

viscid remnant
#

Ye ofc itsgood elptr

grand mesa
#

Keep running 😂

safe heart
#

I ignore dh and root clone triple DR while I kill healer

#

It is in your best interest to literally not let then play the game
I like high winds for them too

untold notch
#

Convokers are you guys play 15 sec icd one or 3 min trinket

safe heart
#

I'd play regular trinket probably and do your go's correctly unless you're carrying then use the on use

lime light
#

Idk going dh after a bit of damp and when they randomly blur

#

Is super good

north yew
#

What is a bit of damp? Lol. We tried switching to them after about 2 mins and didn't work. Also does aegis work against dh dmg?

clear pulsar
#

Wrong chat @forest kite

forest kite
#

Sorry @clear pulsar cryingcat

#

Lol I though this was resto chat

clear pulsar
#

No in this channel the restos focus on healing

north yew
#

Good to know. I will have to practice locking down the DH more with roots and full cyclone DR

#

I usually run mighty bash but was thinking of taking mass entangle for DH lol

grand mesa
#

Honestly in my experience I didn’t bother with triple clone as Resto. Kinda hard to land a gapless clone sometimes and you have to be within 20 yards for the third clone and doesn’t give you time to fuck off very very far away. Just rotating the roots and stomp clones and bash clones

haughty rose
#

honestly the DH should not touch you at all

#

if he isnt helped by an rsham with kicks/grounds

grand mesa
#

I find fury way more oppressive lately

haughty rose
#

with clone/root/bash he should be absolutely afk

#

ye fury is hell

#

if a fury gets uptime their 40% ms is too fking much

grand mesa
#

Yeah

lime light
#

Aegisy is affected by dampening

#

Overall bm trinket is better vs teams you can possibly die

viscid remnant
#

very true

lime light
#

But it also cost conquest so not many ppl went for it

#

And high ilvl aegis is better than duelist S2 bm

viscid remnant
#

in a few weeks ppl will probably swap to it

grand mesa
#

Oh that’s a solid point

#

I didn’t think about that

viscid remnant
#

especially with the bigger conquest cap

grand mesa
#

I’m still rocking s2 duelist BM

lime light
#

Also iam not sure how rly aegis works and if its modified by things like versa

#

Temporar healing buffs

#

Ecc

#

Cuz if u check details

#

It says that u get HEALED

#

With it

#

So lets say someone hits u for 10k

#

It will hit u for 10k and then heal for 5k

#

That's how IT says in details, but i never tested IT myself

#

I wish my autocorrect was not making "it" with capital letters

viscid remnant
#

it doesnt say u get healed

north yew
grand mesa
#

Pray my DH kills them before I die

#

For fury

north yew
#

Lol

#

I'm playing with a sv hunter

viscid remnant
#

fury and dh are pretty similar to eachother

#

so just do the same thing

north yew
#

Makes sense

viscid remnant
#

sv hunter is one of the better classes u can play with how are u struggling against dh

#

tell him to play ice trap and steel trap and enemy dh cant play the game

north yew
#

We did that and he used net and somehow the DH was getting out of the roots

lime light
#

@viscid remnant it does

#

Green border

#

And +

#

Means u get healed

#

Apy ape

#

Yes or yes

#

Stop

viscid remnant
lime light
#

Ye, but Blizzard tootlips

#

Are very good

#

U know

grand mesa
#

Fury can get out of roots way easier from what I understand , but idk how often they run the pvp talent

lime light
#

Sometimes u read something in their tooltips and u have to fucking idea what they meant

viscid remnant
#

i dont think fury can get out of roots if they have nothing to hit though

#

dh got out of roots maybe with freedom type effect

lime light
#

Fury Has a honor talent that consumes their 5% max hp

#

Or current not so sure

grand mesa
#

This thing

lime light
#

And frees u from roots

#

And give some Rage

viscid remnant
#

o

#

i thought its a different one that bloodthirst removed

lime light
#

It was removed yes

grand mesa
#

Wtf 20s. Didn’t know it was that short Ok never running mass entangle lol

viscid remnant
livid wasp
#

tfw you put yourself up on lfg and nobody signs until it gets delisted

untold notch
#

@safe heart been playing fire mage feral. Played necro since 9.1. Convoke is super funny sometimes

safe heart
#

It's great when it works
And it's terrible when it doesn't

livid wasp
#

fire mage looks kinda fun having watched mitch play it

short fjord
#

Tbh not all fury wars run that talent

#

I think it’s really valuable but fury has some pretty mandatory talents

#

Most are going to go for more damage and healing over root break

signal arrow
viscid remnant
#

hes constantly steeltrapped or net trap or ice trapped or cycloned or rooted

#

basically cant ever play the game due to the amount of ccs

lime light
#

U should never lose a game as Hunter

#

In 2s

#

U are above every single comp

viscid remnant
#

pretymuch

lime light
#

Beside rogue mage

#

They are equal

signal arrow
#

Lol rogue mage is 100% win matchup for us

#

but dh is difficult

lime light
#

That's is true, u counter it, but if they rng and be donkeys, might kill someone randomly

signal arrow
#

true

lime light
#

I can only see, dh hpal being somehow not too bad vs survi or bm

signal arrow
#

Yeah freedom is really annoying

lime light
#

@clear pulsar wgat y diunbg wqgrtge

#

@viscid remnant wanna play?

viscid remnant
#

ogey logging

mossy pebble
#

Dh seems way more easier matchup than a surv or mm

#

I feel like surv/mm just hard counters feral

lime light
#

uhm

#

dont think so mm is as hard as survi and bm

viscid remnant
#

feign death counters feral

#

XD

lime light
#

why there is meeting

#

in a voice channel

#

without inviting the one and only

#

i dont understand

signal arrow
viscid remnant
#

ye ok

signal arrow
#

but mending is still strong

viscid remnant
#

hunter will just

#

destroy u

#

cuz he has 1243142345 million dps

#

XD

lime light
#

if u leave hunter free, your healer will get aids

mossy pebble
#

Its not that big damage

#

Its just constant damage

#

With lil to no effort

lime light
#

its constant dmg with random kill shots procs

#

for 20k+

viscid remnant
#

its like dh dmg but its ranged and even if u line ur still dying to pets

#

and has more cc than dh

mossy pebble
#

And your thorns dont do actual damage to a bm

#

It just goes on pets

#

The feign death leggo + talent is just the cherry on top makes me wanna kill myself

#

Ing ofc

lime light
#

@viscid remnant log rat

viscid remnant
#

sec killing rare XD

lime light
#

oh wait i forgor

mossy pebble
#

Dh is a way more easy matchup your full bleeds will outheal dh passive healing if they are full bleed and you dont let him touch you (well the least you can) you super fine

lime light
#

i dont have the proper lego

mossy pebble
#

And have the upper hand

viscid remnant
#

then go

#

dk priester ?

mossy pebble
#

Just respect dhs damage

lime light
#

i wanna play hpal

#

maybe i farm gold quick

#

and buy

viscid remnant
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

whatever u want

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
#

he is speaking the language of the gods

mossy pebble
#

Void form procced

lime light
#

@viscid remnant need 7k

lime light
#

no inglis

lime light
#

kurwa i got gold now

#

but need 400 flux

edgy shale
#

ill give u all my flux

viscid remnant
#

Elpatron how do u not have gold

#

Just do callings

#

U have like 10 characters at lvl 60

lime light
#

yes

#

i just did

#

took me 2 hrs

#

iam rdy

viscid remnant
#

few min iam eating

rare willow
tropic schooner
#

thats why both of oyu gotta interrupt smartly

rare willow
#

agreed. and if i dont have a root or the means to get a root really quickly interrupting a fear is not worth

#

its either that or blow a double hard cc into the immune if stuff really gets bad, but then like i say it feels like it just snowballs from there

tropic schooner
#

a lot

#

as a blanket statement thats very wrong

rare willow
#

its not a blanket statement, its got plenty of caveats to it.

haughty compass
#

When can I turn into a dragon

livid wasp
#

why is frost mage allowed to have health time travel, blinking stuns and resolve trinket all at once

#

and two ice blocks

#

is it even a feasible target in 3s

#

just blinks every stun

#

we did kill him but it was such a struggle

fair mirage
#

just run on veins then kill them lol

livid wasp
#

fire mage/fury warr too

#

just blinks every stun

#

cant kick polies always cause resolve

#

just funny how anything counters jungle

edgy shale
#

u complain more about wow pvp than league players complain about league and that is a massive deal

livid wasp
#

have you played the game

viscid remnant
#

yes

#

and i dont complain as much

#

u can go frost mage

#

if u have iceblock dispeller

#

magers usually play like dogs and u can punish them

livid wasp
#

cant even stun them on their goes then they blink to the pillar with alter time

#

and kite around it so nobody can dispel them

edgy shale
#

bruh lol i dont ppv that much cuz it makes me mad like its clearly doing to u

viscid remnant
#

not pvping ?

#

out of el patron's channel

#

u need to learn clock

edgy shale
livid wasp
#

too bad its the only game that is remotely fun to play

viscid remnant
#

🕚 👈 VerySadCat

edgy shale
#

🕚 👈 VerySadCat

viscid remnant
#

u need to learn clock.

livid wasp
#

I think this season every session ive played ive wanted to jump off a bridge

#

its so aids

fallen blaze
#

Is it just me or is the 2 set for rdruid just useless? In games where I heal for like 1M - 1.5M it heals for maybe 20k

#

Or am I missing something here

fair mirage
viscid remnant
#

mastery

edgy shale
#

the healing of it is p useless. its there for mastery / dispel protection

fallen blaze
#

Ah yeah ofc the mastery

fair mirage
fallen blaze
#

Didnt think about that

#

Good call makes it bit less useless

livid wasp
#

like every single session, I do some games where I play well, then we lose some and I start tilting then I play more while tilted which of course is the biggest debuff in the game then I get obsessed about trying to win while tilted and I just try to play and win and I get so pissed off then I come here and type

tardy hare
#

Lmao

viscid remnant
#

just detilt

fallen blaze
#

Oh no just had a great session but just got my new 2 set and was hyped for it after waiting for a while and was underwhelmed by the healing XD

#

But the mastery and dispell protection makes up for it

livid wasp
#

maybe I need to start taking some benzodiazepine each session

stray sigil
#

@lime light dude dk is biggest dam actaulyl

#

maybe ww is just no equiped to deal with the dmg

#

i watch tyga play and he just plays no spin every game

livid wasp
#

maybe I should level up a dk too

stray sigil
#

na dk looks boring af

fair mirage
#

Then you'll actually go bald when you queue into jungle.

stray sigil
#

theres like no oomph to it

viscid remnant
#

elpatron on the dk

#

is pumper

stray sigil
#

ww is hella juice

viscid remnant
#

biggest pumper i palyed with

#

iswear

stray sigil
#

cuz u just do biggest pump

#

u get hard from the burst

viscid remnant
#

i pi his abom limb and enemy hp disappear

stray sigil
#

come na u dogs

#

we wwdk

#

? ? ? ?

viscid remnant
#

why 2 ppl

#

would go to na

#

when 1 can go to eu

stray sigil
#

cuz

viscid remnant
#

scoundrel

stray sigil
#

okok listen

viscid remnant
#

NA is dogshit

stray sigil
#

who is higher xp

viscid remnant
#

ill have like

stray sigil
#

me

viscid remnant
#

800 ping

stray sigil
#

so u come

viscid remnant
#

i alrdy have like 60-70 ping to eu

#

to na i will have like 200

stray sigil
#

i have 70 ping in na

viscid remnant
#

what are u mexican

#

or brazil

stray sigil
#

wtf

viscid remnant
#

like f2f

stray sigil
#

im

#

french canadian

#

fake french

viscid remnant
#

french

#

get out

stray sigil
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baguette

viscid remnant
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🏳️

stray sigil
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where is remi

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he would tell u

viscid remnant
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whomst

edgy shale
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🕚 👈 VerySadCat

livid wasp
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is jungle gonna even be much better with 4-set

fair mirage
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jungle is fantastic

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and their bonuses are good yeah

livid wasp
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thats a kappa

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faced some uh dk/DH with sets and even without any cds and me kiting them my priest couldnt keep me alive

fair mirage
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playing a cleave into surv jungle is actual suffering

livid wasp
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to have a second go

fair mirage
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losing to a dk as jungle hmmmm

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maybe that was a gear thing but hmm

viscid remnant
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sv hunter set is rly good ithink

livid wasp
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well dk/rdruid/bm facerolled us earlier