pvp

[livid wasp]

so fucking broken and still cant kill them

[viscid remnant]

💀

[lime light]

life is either an incredible adventure or nothing at all

i was about to log the game

but fuck thatr

iam out

who asked tho

[livid wasp]

why cant they buff feral already

so sick of this

feral aff rdruid is so freaking stupid

why do they have same movement speed

how am I supposed to do any dmg to them

when they just run 24/7

[stray sigil]

log na

we ww dk on na

gogo

[signal arrow]

[livid wasp]

I get from 2k to 2050

then down again

then up again

then down again

im so sick of this im sick of having to work to win those games

then losing them quickly

spending the entire day doing nothing

[tardy hare]

If u sick of losing just get better smh

[livid wasp]

how?

game's slowly eating my sanity

[forest kite]

resto pvp is great

i only spent around 4 hours today and went from 0-2100 in 2s

[lime light]

Zechey your sanity is not existence

U lost it long time ago

Just q up bitch

[fair mirage]

Feral doesn't need buffs.

[tardy hare]

Well learn the game better

[obtuse bramble]

my rdruid alt beauty

unforch, she's bad at the game

well, me

[lime light]

u can log in

we enh rdru

or actually i can log something with gear

i need cap

[clear pulsar]

Log in NA acct

We blast

[misty shuttle]

imagine doing this and being stuck at 1450

[lime light]

there is no jungle

in NA?

[clear pulsar]

There is jungle in brazil

Come visit I show you

[lime light]

brazil is a jungle

[livid wasp]

why is the tranquility immunity allowed to exist

it should be kickable at least

how do you ever die as a rdru with that

[clear pulsar]

It's a 3 min cd

So anywhere between 0:05 and 3:00

[lime light]

thanks for your wise advice

Mister Vitor

[clear pulsar]

🙏

[lime light]

my discord was not the same without you

[livid wasp]

freaking 1 win away from 2.1k and back to 2060

hate this game

[viscid remnant]

hi

@lime light mw in awc not even playing tier

[lime light]

kinda true

maybe cuz the tier dont give u any defensive

and most of the items

are without versa?

[viscid remnant]

it doesnt give u anything

its rly bad

u never press essence font in arena

and the 4pc not worth cuz stats probably

[lime light]

what does it mean

all healing dealt by 450

lol

that means every heal is stronger by 450

or what

[viscid remnant]

idk exactly

[lime light]

i swear the tooltips gets worst and worst

ok it doesnt look good

[pallid coral]

yes

exactly

if your heal would do 1 healing

it does 451 instead

if it would do 1k

it does 1450 instead

[lime light]

sounds kinda bad even pve wise no?

maybe its decent for hots

[viscid remnant]

mw has a lot of hots

well kind of

in pvp 2 in pve 3

[pallid coral]

it's really insane for pvp

pve

sorry

because essence font ticks quickly

and they just play rushing jade wind

[livid wasp]

is going resto aff rdruid even viable

honestly

watch my streams vod from 1:43:00

what am I doing wrong

against that shit

how am I supposed to kill the rdruid

on the other side of the arena

while my priest is in china

with the WW

he cant help

we can have a go so rarely

its like I have to just try and kill WW

but everyone says feral aff rdruid dies easily

how

[safe heart]

resto aff rdruid?

i mean rdruids who play feral aff are usually druids who are better at you using that toolkit tbf
and like basically the reasoning is the same as ferals who dont play guardian aff

you lose alot of survive buttons by not playing it

no passive dr, no frenzy regen, no incap roar etc

[livid wasp]

feral aff*

[safe heart]

but the druid obv doesnt wanna be near you when hes not trying to stun anything

[livid wasp]

how am I supposed to deal with that shit

[safe heart]

kill the monk

i dont mind killing monks tbh

[livid wasp]

twice ive been one game away from 2.1k and ive faced that crap

and now its happening again and I get some holy/surv ofc

[forest kite]

does quick oxien ring work in rated bgs?

[fair mirage]

Mount speed is disabled in rated play.

The run speed works, though.

[forest kite]

just wondering for flag carrying

[fair mirage]

Not sure how it interacts with the slow from fcing.

Should still be a decent pick, though.

[tropic schooner]

recommend some nice tea

to relax

jam some good music

and dont take shit that seriously

[lime light]

or jerk off ofc

[tropic schooner]

or jerk el patron off

yea

[lime light]

if we rly have to fine

[forest kite]

thats it, thanks a lot

Thanks a lot, learned something new

[livid wasp]

[stray sigil]

tru jerk off to el patron

[lime light]

why poor EP

[stray sigil]

we jerk to our leady

leader

[lime light]

fine

[remote gyro]

is there any reason to play boomy and not any other caster

[lime light]

yes

[remote gyro]

what is the reason

or the reasons

genuine question

[clear pulsar]

The same as you would have for playing another caster over boomie

Because thats what you wanna play!?

[remote gyro]

for sure, i'm just trying to understand what makes the spec unique/good as a player who recently picked it up

[clear pulsar]

Ok that I cant answer

I find boome abhorrent

Well, whats good about boomie is that you're an absolute livelord

I suppose

Tons of different types of control, everything bound to druid as a class

Very mobile and diverse in utility

[lime light]

the answer is

your dh or ele can do more damgur

[remote gyro]

oof

ngl that one dh boomkin team getting absolutely railed on awc left a sour taste in my mouth

[glad obsidian]

I missed it was it really that bad?

[remote gyro]

it was pretty bad, ret arms just ran the healer down but that might have something to do with the healer being a shaman

but they couldn't peel for him at all

[glad obsidian]

Darn was rooting for the DH team since there’s been like none lol

[remote gyro]

today's dh team was more successful even though I think they lost, he was pumping quite hard

[viscid remnant]

Rsham unplayable

[signal arrow]

I queued some Rdruid / DH / Boomie today had like 66%winrate but it was low rated 3's so eh

Definetly still felt like a good comp though

[haughty compass]

Yea DH just pve’s... it’s all the moonkin

[rare willow]

im instantly tilted queueing into anyone or any team that has 4pc right now.

lol

[fair mirage]

sometimes u just lose but usually it can be fine

[safe heart]

i know its really hard sometimes but trust, its alot better to just analyze and try to reflect on what happened and try to outplay it than to just blame it

[edgy shale]

i just hate it when i feel like im countered. like when an hpal just bops every single go i know its me being bad cuz i should be tracking CDs better or whatever, but it feels liek I have to outplay him so hard to even have a chance

but that happens in like every game u just need to hold that L on ur bad matchups and learn them better

[grand mesa]

i just help what i can idk

[safe heart]

i feel you ipod

im not saying its as simple as git gud for every match up

hard counters exist

just gotta q and go next

[rare willow]

that comment was because i queued into an ele w/ 4pc and despite them crushing everyone else in damage, my team ended up winning. im just tilted because i want my 4pc. sickle looks so good and im just frustrated at the system . creation catalyst should have been available the week after RWF ended.

and the rng vault system is terrible

[grand mesa]

yeah i think they kinda fucked up there. catalyst came alittle too late

even on raid side it was a very annoying affair to get 4pc

[rare willow]

i do get the idea of not making it available if they wanted RWF without the set bonuses, but those guilds literally spent millions of dollars paying people to trade tokens to the players involved. so it kinda failed at what they wanted anyway

[stone breach]

millions of gold

[rare willow]

team liquid alone spent $100,000

i guess im just assuming other top competitor guilds were similar

[edgy shale]

liquid spent the most by far

and used it to get 5th smile

[rare willow]

lol

fair

not gonna argue the semantics of it. you know what i mean.

only thing i havent been doing is mythic+. just do not enjoy them

i miss challenge modes from MoP. those were fun as heck. mythic+ just doesnt get me the same way those did

[edgy shale]

yea it really makes no sense they didn't release it like... week 3? all world first ppl had their tier by then

[rare willow]

mhmm

[grand mesa]

yeah...i think slow playing time gating kinda makes sense if it's a long tier if the goal is to artificially extend the season...but there's a season 4. just let players get tier and blast idk

[fair mirage]

idk what their thought process is

most people presumably just bail

then there's those of us who play regardless

[livid wasp]

well they got their excel sheets and shit they must know what theyre doing

since they keep doing it

[fair mirage]

that's what i figured but maybe it's just stubborn boomerness and/or incompetence lmao

like there's zero way they're making more money with pvp now than say with a system that didn't shit all over most people aka casual bg players

or maybe they are with token buyers rather than subs from casuals idk

[lime light]

What is the conversation about

U mean the thingy to Craft sets?

True

I need a new Facebook picture dude

[edgy shale]

[cosmic river]

WHat leggo should I make for kyrian feral? Frenzyband,symmetry or COLFD?

[lime light]

Uhm uhm

Make symmetry draught or if poosey make freanzy regen one

But i would go with symmetry

Even tho its not good legendary

But fits the best kyrian playstyle

If u full bite build

Cuz if u are kyrian moonfire build

Go for draught

[cosmic river]

nah playing bite build

[lime light]

So go for symmetry

[cosmic river]

alright cheers

[forest kite]

Is necro feral still the move in 2s?

Or is convoke with FR trinket better now?

And is stacking mastery the way now for necro feral?? How come top ferals have no haste now as necro

[safe heart]

nf feral + hpriest is pretty strong in 2s but so is NL
just pick one and run with it, nf prob a bit stronger in 2s but hunters are pretty rampant

hunter sucks for both

also take vers mast where you can get it and take vers haste where you cant is the rule of thumb

[signal arrow]

I have not seen a single NF at 2100+

But I have seen few necros 😅

Not a big sample size but I still feel like necro is the play

And check-pvp confirms my assessment there are 3 NF ferals in top 50 and 47 necros

[lime light]

nf hpriest is better into hunters imo

irrelevant what u see on check pvp

in this case

its too easy to swap covenant

[signal arrow]

I disagree

Necro has the checkmate position more often

Atleast vs Rdruid / survival hunter which is what I run their go is Chastise -> fear Hunter while the feral Maims me and does his go + Priest mindgames is a go every 45 Seconds

While Convoke feral can only do a go every 1 Minute which lines up with our 2 trinkets

But if they go every 45 seconds with FF, Mindgames they will eventually find a kill where no one has trinket

Of course you need clean cross cc so the survival can't mending bandage but if your cc is on point I think necro is better

[clear pulsar]

You dont need to stun a priest to kill them on convoke

[tropic schooner]

never ever encountered a holy priest in 2s where I was sad that hes NF kyrian and venthyr both feel so much harder to beat

or wait we talk NF druid

not sure if you should chose your covenant on the hunter matchup, seems really hard to win regardless of covenant

[clear pulsar]

They're talking about nf feral

WIth hpriest

[forest kite]

Thanks for the advice peeps 😋 . Im so.bored of sub rogue playstyle im going through the other agi specs now

Ferals seems fun

[signal arrow]

Yeah it's about nightfae feral ^^ and I would agree but I think necro is better in most matchups than nightfae nightfae is just the cheese build

[glad obsidian]

What are some tips I can give my Rdruid for Fdk he just seems to melt (I’m a DH) even with my darkness most of the time

2k MMR not like it matters

[lime light]

Never stack

Bug grip

With travel wild charge

Afk

Enjoy

Use everything in abomb limb goes

[grand mesa]

? Can u elaborate

[signal arrow]

If you are in travel form and wild charge in mid grip it cancels the grip

I think that's what he means

[lime light]

Yes

[lime light]

in awc

there should be a pet hp bar

[leaden cliff]

i had kevin eat a hunter trap 3 times in a 3v3 last night, absolute legend

[clear pulsar]

🐐

[mellow turret]

what is this addon

[clear pulsar]

I imagine it's bigdebuffs

But is that on nameplate, on target frame, on raid frame?

[mellow turret]

raid frame

[grand mesa]

It can be big debuffs anchored right of frame. Or losecontrol

[lime light]

also diminish

[clear pulsar]

It's probably just bigdebuffs yeah

With omnicc to show timer like that

@mellow turret

[stray sigil]

i already regret xfering to alliance 0 ppl in lfg

zzz

[viscid remnant]

[safe heart]

yeah its rough on alliance rn

i cant find groups in the 1800 range at all

[clear pulsar]

Yeah you're dum stupid

Imagine xferring TO alliance

Not FROM

[safe heart]

i was already on ally

[lime light]

guys

i need help

[stray sigil]

what u need patron

[lime light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkodZjBcwDw

i need the song name

from 8:06

its paradise cover

or remix

[viscid remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhUZUwkqyBY

[quick whale]

For guard PVP what form do you normally convoke in? New to night fae only been Necro 😛

[clear pulsar]

The song at 8:06 is yellow

Paradise starts after

[lime light]

ye the one after yellow then

can u help

[clear pulsar]

Yo uwant to find the cover specifically?

[lime light]

yeah

cant find it

[clear pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4cCuUtOY

You're welcome

[lime light]

wtf

king

how

[clear pulsar]

It's listed in the video description you ape

[lime light]

i cant see

[viscid remnant]

wtf

[lime light]

there is no description for me

[viscid remnant]

poland blocked

polska gurom

[lime light]

but srlsy there is no description for polacs

[viscid remnant]

real

[lime light]

"pokaz mniej" means everything is showed

[viscid remnant]

unlucky

[lime light]

oh its there

if i use

some other screan shit

cinema mode

or some shit

[viscid remnant]

flopper with the bmw sponser

[misty shuttle]

are there any feral druids in this cup?

[livid wasp]

why does arena have to be so hard

im so annoyed

cant get anywhere

[edgy shale]

cuz the same 20 ppl have been playing it for 20 years

[rare willow]

there was at least 1 junglecleave team

but i think they were playing alot of RMP alts too

[misty shuttle]

ahh ok ty

[clear pulsar]

EU cup had jungle team in 4th place

They beat ret arms on the friday vod if you wanted to watch

Lost to turbo earlier today

They didnt play rmp alts tho

I dont think any jungle team was playing rmp alts

[misty shuttle]

if I'm trying to feral pvp am I better (with randos) trying to find jungle or 2v2?

[livid wasp]

double dps

is the best imo

you have to learn to survive too and shit

[signal arrow]

I just did a queue sesh and pushed from 2115 to 2280 with 66% winrate

[livid wasp]

super hard tho

[signal arrow]

Going good kekW

[tropic schooner]

if im learning a new class I personally find heal/dps the best to get used to it

[misty shuttle]

I felt it was much easier to climb rating when I played my mage

and I wasn't even using keybinds when I started playing mage

druid feels tryhard

feral

mostly tried as night fae

once the teams are better and can counter voke, it feels really hard

hold w?

as in keep running?

[livid wasp]

can someone watch me play and tell me why I suck

[misty shuttle]

I thought u were over 2k rating

[livid wasp]

thats nothing

[misty shuttle]

it is for a pleb like me who can't get above 1500

[livid wasp]

yes but youre new to feral

ive played since wotlk

perspective

[misty shuttle]

true

my experience is limited to 9.2 really

[tropic schooner]

Also zechey loves to complain

Should just ignore it at this point

[misty shuttle]

do you really need 2400+ glad rank to get max item upgrade?

ahh no, elite

wait, that's still 2400

oof

my plan to pvp for pve gear has come to nothing xD

[signal arrow]

Yeah you get max pvp itemlevel at 2100 but for PvE you get another upgrade at elite

[livid wasp]

fury warr is so broken what the fuck

no chance at all to beat fury warr/hpal

takes no damage

[signal arrow]

Fury warr was what we struggled against too they pump hard

[livid wasp]

theyre too tanky

holy shit

ive never faced anything more broken

worse than hunters

literally

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1452442442 watch this from 6:20

I didnt play my best

but still

fucking did nothing to him

absolutely ridiculous

[rare willow]

i would just run down that rshaman every time lol

root / cc the fury and ignore him while you and the priest 2v1 the resto

[livid wasp]

hpal/fury warr again

[rare willow]

hpally is harder cuz freedoms / bops / bubble , but if its rsham i think its winnable

[livid wasp]

watch my stream now

fury warr/hpal

watch how broken

[rare willow]

yeah its a tought fight but yall won

pretty cleanly too

[livid wasp]

last time we had no chance

[rare willow]

ah fair

[livid wasp]

especially against that resto shaman

team

[rare willow]

that one looked clean imo

really? i guess if your priest is kyrian and not venthyr is less fun to just fun him down but i usually just tunnel vision rshaman + melee teams

just train the blue

keep the melee w/e it is... dh... rogue ... ww... whatever in roots cyclones and incaps.

[fast kernel]

What should I be running for my boomy second legendary in RBGs? Night fae covenant. Pulsar? Timeworn? BOAT?

[livid wasp]

yeah dunno its just hard to go rsham with priest cause warrior will just break all of priests cc with berserker rage

[rare willow]

yeah. but roots just really wreck them. and if the rshaman dispels a root that means adaptive + mindgames stick. which yeah i guess your priest is kyrian so boon isnt affected by dispel

[tropic schooner]

priest can MC or chastise

its literally only fear warrior can break

also berserker rage has a minute cd Fear (if talented) has 30s

[livid wasp]

yeah dunno I tried that earlier but didnt work but guess ill try again

[rare willow]

is feral going to be fun / strong for WOTLK classic pvp ? i have a mage that i plan to main but its already levelled and it looks like theyre giving a free boost anyway. so its either boost an ele sham or a feral druid to alt

[livid wasp]

I think it's very hard but fun

thats what I remember it being like

high skillcap

instant clones and shit

[heady sierra]

why do poeple run timeworn over balance now?

[rare willow]

yeah i started playing at the very end of wrath so i have no idea whats really meta or strong or fun but ele / frost mage / feral have always been my 3 favorite dps specs so i guess ill need to figure out which gets the free boost

[heady sierra]

Feel like using two starsurges in begning makes me engery strave after convoke

[slender pier]

Any tips&tricks as rdruid/lock(aff) vs rogue/fimage - 2.4mmr

[misty shuttle]

I like balance of all things for saving up astral power and then firing off all my starsurges as I go into a new eclipse

not tried it in pvp though

not this patch anyway

[clear pulsar]

What did you try it on then

[misty shuttle]

I used it for pve in raids last patch

it felt good even outside convoke

[viscid remnant]

Hello face to face

[clear pulsar]

I dont understand how you feel 24% crit on a spec that has 0 crit interactions between spells or resources

It's certainly not 'feeling' by lookiung at the damage meter cuz if you were NF boat last patch in raid you were way down at the bottom

[signal arrow]

Oof man you killed him

[misty shuttle]

I was near top / top of my raid depending on the boss so that was fine for me. not high end play though

https://murlok.io/druid/balance/rbg

[tardy hare]

show us the parses

[viscid remnant]

REAL

[misty shuttle]

I mean

as I said I'm not exactly high end

[viscid remnant]

private logs dud

bluelog barry

[safe heart]

I found a hunter to carry me
Pog

[viscid remnant]

ill tell u why ur parses are low

because u are woman worgen

[misty shuttle]

... no I'm not lol

[tardy hare]

why the thing says ur worgen

but the picture

says night elf

smh

[misty shuttle]

I'm nelf

[viscid remnant]

ok then ill give u another solution

bad mog

u look like a rogue

very awful looking rogue

[misty shuttle]

lol

[viscid remnant]

anything else u need helpwith iam here

but tbh right

idk anything about pve

last person u should ask

i dont think ive done the raid on higher than lfr

last raid i did was heroic nathria or whatever

[safe heart]

Worgen druid is good

[misty shuttle]

anyway this is all by the by

the point is

balance of all things can't be that bad if the vast majority of top RBG players are using it, right?

[clear pulsar]

Yes it can

Have you seen the vast majority of rbgers?

[viscid remnant]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[clear pulsar]

🖍️

[misty shuttle]

I think I've played 4 RBG games this season, so... no xD

[clear pulsar]

Aka crayon eaters

[safe heart]

I need an 1800 carry in rbgs for mog

[forest kite]

good luck

its all r1 hoth teams at 1600 mmr at the moment

[signal arrow]

Because the queue is dead lol

[forest kite]

yeah 🤣 pretty accurate. i wonder how this season will play out. HOTH is currelty 1900

[signal arrow]

Lool

[clear pulsar]

Sucks. When people leave, that just leads to more people leaving. Fewer players = more uneven matches and both sides of it end up having less fun.

Rbgs have potential too they can be fun as fuck

[signal arrow]

Eh I never really liked RBG's it's too many players too much shit happening I like arena cause it feels more organized

And even there sometimes I don't know wtf just happened lol

[viscid remnant]

more ppl u have in the grp more idiots u have to rely on

[signal arrow]

But in arena there are definetly no R1's at 1900 😅

[lone zephyr]

anyone know what the best legendary combo is for night fae pvp ?

[lime light]

Rbg community is a pve players mafia

True or true

[signal arrow]

I always say RBG is for PvE players that want to PvP

[lone zephyr]

are double legendaries not a thing for pvp can find this info anywere

[misty shuttle]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/balance-druid-pvp-gear

what do u think is easier to get rating in, 2v2 or 3v3?

[tropic schooner]

As feral/resto 2s

As moonkin 3s

As bear rbgs

[misty shuttle]

ok, ty

[junior plover]

[junior plover]

This is actually a crazy issue for Blizz to have to work around

it compounds really quickly

Like if the game always had as many pvp players as it does right now it wouldnt be too bad

[viscid remnant]

ok chill out

simmer down

[junior plover]

but cuz people are quitting and expectations for what level of play is where changes every month its big yikes

[lime light]

The problem is

Game is losing pvpers

Mostly

Or players in general

Every year

Every ixpac

Every patch

But not many new players

[clear pulsar]

Not true

[lime light]

Cuz its boomer game

Its not popular game type

[clear pulsar]

Shadowlands launch had huge player influx

[lime light]

Like fps

[viscid remnant]

the problem is that rbgs are just shitty gameplay

[lime light]

And 4nite games

[viscid remnant]

gg end

[clear pulsar]

They just quit fast cuz the game is full of messy shitty systems

That take 2 major patches to fix

[lime light]

That's also a thing

[clear pulsar]

With feedback that they got thru all of beta

[lime light]

Wotlk will bring massive amount of players

But the question is

How long they gonna stay

Cuz imo

Not so long

Wotlk is/was fun, but the game also sucks

Cuz we are in 2k22

[grand mesa]

There just aren’t many games with as good of an arena system as wow if any

Even in 2022

[lime light]

There is non

[viscid remnant]

[vagrant gulch]

Anyone online? For some rated bg's? I really wana try a 10man guardian druid game.

For example. AB: 1 bear goes farm, half goes LB other half goes mine, we ignore the fight in blacksmith we either kill and then cap. Or mass cyclone then cap then sit there and refuse to die.

Same applies for other base capping matches.

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

u belong to EU @tiny oar

[twin sage]

does someone know what the name of the npc is to buy the natural orders memory in zereth mortis i cant find him

vilo only has memory of unity

[stone breach]

I thought the item you could buy was a "random legendary" item, but I do not know where

[lime light]

korthia

the soul/cinders dealer

[twin sage]

ohh for real thanks man !!

[viscid remnant]

elpatron where are u

[lime light]

here

why i cant open music

in browser spotify

smh

[clear pulsar]

Korthia is random leggo

You can buy specific leggo

To the left of the innkeeper in ZM @twin sage

[lime light]

oh ye

i knew it also

[twin sage]

shit i just bought at kortia in the hope it get it but no xDD

at zm i say that vilo only has memory of unity

saw*

[clear pulsar]

Rendle

Rendle sells memories that drop in castle nathria

Specifically

Should include NOW

[twin sage]

oh yes i see !! thanks man

so sad i spend my soul cinder on korthia now xD

😦

do you guys advise next to cinch of unity night fae 2nd legendary natural order on 1st legendary?

im kinda new feral druid pvp

[safe heart]

Yes

Convoke doesn't need more damage and if you pre bear stuff you basically cannot die

Get a weak aura for barkskin so you can abuse both ends

[twin sage]

ah so u can get the frenzy regen 2 times ?

begin of barkskin and end

[safe heart]

Yes

But you have to be in bear form to trigger the frenzy

[twin sage]

ahh yes only when it ends then right?

if i cast it when im stunned or smth when they gonna burst

then quick go bear from

should i craft on head wrist or hands?

[safe heart]

The frenzy starts When you are in bear only and at the beginning and end of it

I made wrist

You can go bear, frenzy, wait 3 ticks, leave bear and then go into bear just before bark fades and get the 2nd frenzy

But you must be a bear

[harsh mango]

Can I ask if it's okay to look for teammates in this channel? I don't play druid myself but I'm looking for consistent people to play with and the rules about advertising don't seem to talk about looking for pvp teammates

[atomic coral]

Does anyone have a good shifting macro especially for pvp? for help to make cat bear easier? maybe im wrong I remember there was one years ago in mists but don't recall it

[safe heart]

Like cat -> bear?

[atomic coral]

like if im in cat I don't wanna click bear or hit the bear form like I have cat on 0 and bear on 9 but is there a macro that lets you switch faster? or am I wrong

I always see top ferals doing switching so fast and effortlessly I don't know if i'm doing it wrong or if there is a way to do it

[safe heart]

There is no faster way to switch forms than that tmk

EXCEPT FOR
Using form specific abilities , like tiger fury will put you straight into cat, raor into bear

[twin sage]

you can put it on shift 0 so u dont have to click something else than ur cat form only with shift

[twin sage]

can i use the nature order on my feral ?

the memory

it says i require guardian or that doesnt matter

[safe heart]

Yeah you can use it on your feral

[exotic salmon]

0 and 9 are really far away I wouldn’t bind anything useful to those

Have you used up all your alt and shift modifiers?

[safe heart]

He probably has a 12 button mouse for those

I use 5 to = on my mouse

And I actually bound ctrl to a button on a 3rd mouse click button

[atomic coral]

Yeah exactly the razer one with the 12 buttons

[clear pulsar]

C is for cat form

[stray sigil]

gross

[grand mesa]

Scroll wheel up down and shift versions for me…

[tardy hare]

Bro q is cat form

Ctrl 4 is bear form

Mouse button 4 is travel form

9 is moonkin form

[clear pulsar]

What

[surreal heron]

9??

tell me you have an mmo mouse

[safe heart]

Q is bear
E is cat
F is fast

[dusty stratus]

Mouse up is cat. Mouse down is bear

[viscid remnant]

ok chill out

x is bear

v is travel

shift v cat

[dusty stratus]

Lets agree that youre wronf

[viscid remnant]

🤝

[tardy hare]

Yes

[tardy hare]

Mouse up is regrowth party1 smh

Mouse down is regrowth self

[viscid remnant]

What about party 2

Smh

[tardy hare]

Middle mouse

[surreal heron]

fair

[rare willow]

berserk , dash, tf all put you in cat. i think thats all right? just those three ?

i have the weirdest binds for shifting form. its all dependant on what form im already in. i do not recommend but its what im used to so /shrug

roar puts you in bear tho

both either stampeding roar for sprint or incap roar will put you bear

[edgy shale]

idk why but zerk doesnt put me in cat sometimes

[viscid remnant]

Because you need to learn clock

[edgy shale]

TRUUUUUUUE

[viscid remnant]

🕐

[rare willow]

lol

[random patrol]

I always wanted to do guardian, enhancement shaman and disc

terrible comp but meme time

pretty much

[safe heart]

Sounds about right and savage roar I think

[grand mesa]

Conquest cap increase!!!

[tiny oar]

[viscid remnant]

[safe heart]

Add polar bear form right now or riot

I want avatar of ursol but white

[tiny oar]

thats a mood

[safe heart]

That's 2 votes
Let's bring this blizzard

[grand mesa]

Polar bear form yes

[junior plover]

what the fuck

[safe heart]

I use alt q for moonkin

But I never push it

[blissful belfry]

shift+ A S D F for bear cat boomy travel

[vagrant tiger]

Is rdruid fury better than arms in 2s this season? Hearing that it is but the guides aren’t saying it

[fair mirage]

Idk warr feels like ass in 2s

[vagrant tiger]

Guide I saw said ww, sub, bm, and arms

[fair mirage]

idk why i'd say sub lol although i guess that could work

surv is arguably the best partner for rdruid in 2s

[tiny oar]

yea

surv rdru

go to the fucking moon

[fair mirage]

like it's easier to find an okayish bm but if you find an even halfway decent surv u just run over every matchup

[tiny oar]

okayish lol yea big ask from what ive seen of bm hunter pugs

always had a better time with surv or marks hunters but maybe thats just my anecdotal experience

[vagrant tiger]

What is it that synergizes so well? My guild fury is interested but doesn’t know much about pvp. Haven’t found a surv hunter yet but will look.

[fair mirage]

lot of dam/mobility

arms kind of easily played around by most other stuff u find in there

really though w/e is fine for just duelist

yeah arms 2s is uphill battle relative to dh hunter rogue etc

like duelist is free and you can get elite with some time but like why

yeah stacking 40% perma kind of

brutal

people aren't as familiar with fury yet

after a year of arms warbreaker airhorn etc

it kind of is, but suffers more from being peeled

micro cc towards end of slaughterhouse enrage etc fks them up

they literally wanna sit there and hit their 2 buttons into somebody

[vagrant tiger]

Interesting. He will love hearing this because he’s hated arms for years and doesn’t enjoy pvp as much because it was always arms.

[rare willow]

yeah that 40% Mortal striket debuff from fury is absolutely brutal for other teams to deal with

its just high consistent damage with that -40% and people fall behind so fast from it

[fair mirage]

fury/unholy is also neat

don't have to waste global on string

[tiny oar]

Lol that sounds so disgusting

[fair mirage]

two mortal strikes and can't really kite it

[haughty compass]

Fury turbo feels really bad as a balance druid lol

Just helpless

[fair mirage]

Yeah, moonkin just gets their head caved in.

Shadow is another thing that can't really deal with that damage profile.

[fair mirage]

wail louder so ur dh appreciates how stressful it is for u because he won't notice otherwise

[tiny oar]

true

[loud swallow]

Boomkins are soo easier but they can be terrifying af when they're in a well modelled team...

[tiny oar]

imagine queueing rmp

they must have so much fun man

i cant even imagine

[vocal geyser]

what double legendary you would play as balance druide this season pls guys

[random patrol]

unity plus timesworn and unity plus natural orders will

maybe unity and pulsar if nightfae

[vocal geyser]

I'm nf

what about oneth's clear vision with stellar drift + star burst talents ?

what's nature order ?

[vocal geyser]

ok

so I think I'm gonna run unity with pulsar

I'm just aiming 2.1 and also want to be decent in pve without having to spend shitload of golds

[viscid remnant]

Hi

[tiny oar]

hi

[signal arrow]

hi

[viscid remnant]

hi

[edgy shale]

hi

[obtuse bramble]

hi

[misty shuttle]

hi

what does 'DR' in arena mean?

'taunt DRs in arena'

[misty shuttle]

ah ok ty

[tired shard]

hi people i don't know how to pvp but why can't i stun DHs

blur CD isn't 15 seconds is it

okay ty for this info

i don't think it was the trink because it was longer than 15 seconds, probably 30, but maybe a combo of both

[obtuse bramble]

you can't equip both

[tired shard]

no i mean blur and the trink

[signal arrow]

I honestly doubt a dh would use that trinket ^^ it's unlikely

[tired shard]

they had a priest friend so

[tardy hare]

Holy ward

[tiny oar]

Also that

Also they get a pvp talent that's blur for 3s every vengeful retreat don't think anyone plays that tho

Games shit have fun xx :)

[grand mesa]

Fury is a menace

[tiny oar]

@vestal citrus can u confirm if conq gear from vendor is convertible into tier?

[twin sage]

hi guys what is the best regrowth macro to cast on the friend like in 2v2

just put focus on him and then press the macro focus regrowth ?

so you dont have to click everytime on ur friend when u wanna heal him

[thorn fiber]

Did they remove the boa pvp gear?

[safe heart]

On my rdruid I use scroll wheel to target but on my feral I use scroll up and down for regrowth 1 and 2
Shift scroll for rejuv
Alt scroll for mend

[twin sage]

and 1 is urself then or ?

i usually only play 2v2

[safe heart]

No I have a regular bind for regrowth which I use on me , but I scroll up and down for my party

[twin sage]

can u type the macro for me ?

then i will use that one aswell

u dont have to focus the friend u wanna heal then its instant nr 1 and 2 ?

[safe heart]

It's like

/cast [mod:shift, @party1] rejuvenation
/cast [mod:alt, @party1] swiftmend
/cast [@party1] regrowth```

[twin sage]

im feral so i only have regrowth right?

[safe heart]

Then replace the 1s with 2s

Yes unless ur resto aff

[twin sage]

yes im feral do i just copy the last bar then?

/cast [@party1] regrowth

[safe heart]

Yeah you can do that

Bind that macro to scroll up or down

[twin sage]

perfect man ur amazing thanks!!

[safe heart]

You can use @player to cast on urself

Np sir

[twin sage]

or i can use aswell the regular one on myself without macro right ot its better with?

[safe heart]

Yeah or if you have a regular regrowth button, it'll just cast on your target which normally will be an enemy so it will default to healing yourself

But yeah it's more consistent to actually macro the heal to yourself

[lime light]

@tired shard welcome in my personal channel, and overall in my discord

Feel free to Ask a question

Dont be shy

[viscid remnant]

🙏

[safe heart]

How do you get e girls patron

[blissful belfry]

i just did it, so can confirm

[tiny oar]

Bless ty gat

[lime light]

@safe heart i cant tell

Its a secret

[short fjord]

I picked up 4p today for feral are there any secrets to making it better ala talents or legendaries

[stray sigil]

another cringe vault where i take socket

poggers

[blissful belfry]

poggers. socket for me too, vaults have been such cancer luck for me this tier

theres only 1 piece from vault i still use

[safe heart]

You could play frenzyband to try and really crank down the cd but idk that it would really be worth not playing circle or draught

Might be good though cuz berserk prob be 1.5m with frenzyband + 2 set and you still have swarm ff

[short fjord]

Yea idk

Seems like tier does about 40-45k damage for me

For both Necro and kyrian

Not had at all

[safe heart]

Yeah its good for sure

[timid garnet]

Can someone explain how the tranq pvp talent works

why am I still taking dmg when I pop it 😤

[fair mirage]

Think of it like a stationary turtle.

It'll deflect incoming abilities, but not ones that are already in the air, and of course you still take dot damage.

[timid garnet]

ok so it’s dogshit vs caster cleave

Good against mage Ig

[safe heart]

If I shackle you and then you tranq, it won't stop the shackle if that helps

[timid garnet]

but makes sense lol would still get melted vs feral and lock

also I’ve really been considering taking tree vs unholy because the grip—> a bomb limb 60k dps burst is ridic, how have u guys been countering?

[rare willow]

mostly just CC it as much as possible.

something like grip in -> roar -> bash -> cyclone spam

oooooh Sickle of the Lion is goooooood. its even higher damage than i was expecting. its like a little under 2x Feral Frenzy damages

[tired shard]

thank you el patron

[viscid remnant]

🙏

[lime light]

who made that fucking dogshit no skill trinket

for casters

that makes every 1.2k player

3k

instantly

[grand mesa]

I don’t think they made a positive change season over season lol

[lime light]

soo dogshit actually

thats insane

[viscid remnant]

I wonder what feji got from vault

[lime light]

no point to play this shit

legit every rating u queue

there is 20 mlx

waiting

all of them play the same

no difference between 3k and 1.5k mlx

[fair mirage]

most don't function outside soul/veins

[lime light]

even queued some mordor

1.7k

on my enh

every game was mlx

and they dont give a 2 fucks

blink in

use everything

feels like hitting a wall with a head

fighting mlx

[grand mesa]

The trinket is incredibly obnoxious

[fair mirage]

ya like i said they don't function without cds

[viscid remnant]

even without cds its obnoxious to play against

perma slowed/rooted coils fears polys

imagine spammable cc that u cant even kick

XD

balanced

[lime light]

Wdym dont function

Deabthorn is like 50 sec cd

Venis around 40

When u can Play, there is whole Aids - small ccs waiting for u

[red birch]

3min, 50sec

close enough

[stray sigil]

socket XD

[viscid remnant]

[grand mesa]

How many of y’all pure pvpers have 4set?

[viscid remnant]

probably 0

[safe heart]

I have a 2 set rn, with pending vault and catalyst

I've done 1 m+

[grand mesa]

I honestly think that’s why they bumped conquest cap tbh. My raid guildies were bitching about them not raising valor cap also but they don’t get that pvpers could use forge once every 2 weeks if they bought the pieces from vendor one by one lol

[viscid remnant]

pvers can suck my boll

[safe heart]

But yah Patron is right, legit nearly every game is lock/frost mage and it's insane pressure over a minute, then you can't kick and they're slowing / rooting /polying nonstop

I will say tho
I played against jungle as a non jungle comp and jungle is insane lol

[grand mesa]

Here I was hoping the trinket bonus change would reduce damage some this season haha

[livid wasp]

why arent warriors getting nerfed again

[fair mirage]

why would warrs get nerfed of like all the things rn

[lime light]

In the hpriest and Hunter state

[livid wasp]

way too tanky

[lime light]

Feral dont have that much impact on the game

[livid wasp]

even hunters are easier to face

[lime light]

Lmao what

U are talking about

I can win vs any warrior

But gonna lose to aby 1.5k hunter

[stray sigil]

hunter is a lot worse than warriors lol

there is no counterplay to bm dmg

[lime light]

Or survi dmg

Both are same shit

But vs survi, if u go on someone else, they can also fuck your bleeds

[livid wasp]

at least hunters can die while tanks just stay at at least 50% hp

warriors

[viscid remnant]

nah

ur on drugs

[livid wasp]

watch my vod

tell me what I do wrong then

fury warrior

didnt do shit against him

he does 804k on me and I do 561k on him

DH/hpriest so broken too

[junior plover]

we like fortnite we like fortnite

[short fjord]

Is sickle effected by swarm or no?

[rare willow]

@grand mesa i got my 4set today. got 3 piece out of vault and then catalyst

zechey im still full on the train the healer if its war/healer in 2's

just keep the warrior cc'd eating roots ... no intervene if hes arms. and as long as you let the mortal strike debuff fall off fury is easy enough for your healer to heal through.

i hate hunters cuz my uptime on dots just doesnt exist.

it goes from like 80%+ to like... 30%... with 16s feign death and mend bandage. its just brutal to do anything.

@short fjord yeah it feels like adaptive buffs sickle.

[livid wasp]

why doesnt blizzard ever do anything about rogue/mage

so freaking stupid

sometimes I go mage and it doesnt go cause he just runs away 24/7

sometimes going rogue doesnt work cause he just resets 24/7

feral needs faerie fire back

[viscid remnant]

REAL

also we need a button that removes hunters from the game

[livid wasp]

fire mage shouldnt have iceblock, its a fucking fire mage not ice mage

[rare willow]

they keep nerfing mages and tbh i think rogues are really flying under their radar. i think the RM is more reliant on the rogue than mage. something needs to be done about cheap shot spam and vanish conduit and 30second vendetta and 1 dance and all that jazz.

if its rm 2's just 1 set of full bleeds is enough to kill rogue 100-0. kyrian gets 1 free pass with vial but otherwise rogue flops so fast

and yeah bringing back Faerie Fire would be amazing.

[viscid remnant]

Fireblock?

[livid wasp]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1454160493

like check from 36:40

what am I doing wrong

oh fucking priest

trinketted 2 secs after I trinketted in the go

might as well /afk against rogue mage if both trinket in one go

[safe heart]

3/4 tier this week

didnt get lucky on vault

[clear pulsar]

I'm a 4p gamer

[stray sigil]

who asked

[viscid remnant]

Real

[tiny oar]

Grats face happy for you gamer

[clear pulsar]

Thanks lake you're a gem

[random patrol]

3 piece chicken here

[livid wasp]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1454213334 can someone watch the game from 47 mins onwards, I have no freaking clue what to do

honestly I always lose against that

everyone is like HAHA WARRIOR SO EASY TO BEAT

can someone explain what im doing so badly wrong

becasue I cant do anything

[rare willow]

you and your priest need better synergy. when you feral frenzy the priest needs to be landing fears and mindgames. and dps'ing the target with you

[livid wasp]

he is night fae

[rare willow]

im watching in between queues but i havent seen 1 solid GO where the pally is feared, the warrior is maim stunned, and MG + FF come in and pew pew pew

oh is he ? still. needs to at least land the fear on pally

[livid wasp]

yeah well dunno why he isnt doing it im forced to cast clones

[rare willow]

your doing too much work cycloning on GOs. you do dam, priest should be getting the healer ccd

yeah exactly

yeah i think im towards the end of the match, and you do a really good bash healer -- > maim warrior + damage on war, which forces the pally bubble like instantly. Priest should MD -- > fear and GG right then and there

like that was easy kill w/ md + fear

[safe heart]

Yeah I just finished watching and I agree with DJ
You guys basically never had cross cc so it's like you're 1v2'ing them while u passively get healed

Like you do a bunch of stuns and cc and it's like by the time you even do any damage he's unstunned
I would honestly say you played it pretty well and were in control

[rare willow]

^^^ yep 100% agree

[safe heart]

Priest just kinda dropping the ball / being lazy

Cuz at one point they're both stacked, no stun dr on war and your priest is in melee range

But no fear stun go ...

[rare willow]

^ yep.

a few times you overlap like barkskin and pain sup, but tbh, i think its that the GO coordinaation needs the biggest work

[safe heart]

Try to make sure the priest knows the strat

You can root or bash healer for him to easy fear and you stun

Overall nothing glaringly bad on your part though

Your damage is pretty good

Your resonator accuracy is like 0 tho lol

Maybe play shackle instead

I could be wrong but most of them missed it looked like

Alacrity or shackle are consistent good

[rare willow]

i think im the only feral that uses ferocity lol. every 1 minute +380 agi seems too good to not use but idk

[livid wasp]

yeah idk its so hard

[safe heart]

It's not bad for sure

[livid wasp]

playing with a nf disc felt so bad too

I feel like theres no suppoert dmg

[safe heart]

Mind games is better but

Literally like
If your priest would just fear with ur stun, you'd get so many more cds

Pally didn't bub for like 4m

Cuz he's pve healing dots

[rare willow]

does your priest have set bonuses? cuz i heard that disc PUMPS with tier set

like the buffed pennance is huge

[livid wasp]

he had 2-set

and yeah I noticed it so many times that I stunned healer and he just stood there far away instead of blinking in with fear

he was a good player though I dont know what his reasoning behind that could be

[safe heart]

Maybe he's used to playing with dh's or hunters where he doesn't have to help

Some healers get so far pve healing 40 yds away

[livid wasp]

yeah idk

feel like priest has to have played with ferals before to know how it workws

[safe heart]

Yeah I agree

[rare willow]

also, is your priest not runinng greater fade? or fly ?

cuz if they can use either of those to avoid HoJ thats big

[livid wasp]

not sure

we disbanded already

fly is so annoying against hunters

[rare willow]

and not to harp too much on it, but it takes like almost 2 minutes into the match before the priest fears at all. and when they do, its not when you have pressure.. it defensive when you are in a stormbolt

okay

[livid wasp]

yeah idk hpala is so easy to fear too

[rare willow]

yeah. i think the like aucat said, that priest is probably more used to healing DH or something and wants to just stand 40 yards away and worry about mana efficiency and dampen

w/ feral its got to be coordination on your frenzy GOs

[livid wasp]

oh well 3 weeks and the season starts for real

berserk will be feared

[safe heart]

Yeah its gunna be fun

[livid wasp]

how long is the berserk cd usually with the 2-set?

for necro ferals

like 2 min?

[safe heart]

Yeah I feel like you could shave off a minute roughly

If you play frenzyband maybe like 1.5

But idk if I'm okay giving up my sustain damage

[livid wasp]

yeah

[tropic schooner]

That's not a thing for disc

But yea also don't like Fae disc in 2s at all

Or Fae holy for that matter

[rare willow]

oh. neither of them?

sorry i dont play w/ many discs thought they had access to both

i usually can get beserk below 2 minutes pretty reliably. its somewhere like 1:45-2minute without using Frenzybrand

and the 4set pumps. its seriously like 40k damage over 10 seconds and thats without crits or anything.

[safe heart]

Wow you can get it that low ?

[clear pulsar]

Frenzyband is like less than half of that

[safe heart]

I didn't test it , was just guessing

[clear pulsar]

In pure pve patchwerk sim, 2p is idk 80s off, frenzyband adds another 10-12s off

[safe heart]

That's it ?

[clear pulsar]

Frenzyband cdr is ass yeah

[safe heart]

Wow

Didn't realize it was that terrible

[clear pulsar]

And the damage of it is pretty awful too without full convoke beefing it u p

[edgy shale]

frenzyband CDR might as well not exist

[clear pulsar]

Not buffed by swarm either

Because it's technically an ignite effect

i.e. doesnt crit, not buffed by anything, based on the damage of another spell already

[safe heart]

Wow that's horrible

Glad I didn't get scammed into making it

I decided to take the hit on vers to play my 2pc

34%vers but got some mast/haste + cdr
Seems like it'll do well till next week

[hoary axle]

So I’m looking at guides and stuff and can’t quite figure out why us balance so desired in rbgs? The control? Spread pressure?

[rare willow]

all of it

plus stealth is very powerful

the mobility too

[hoary axle]

Ahh okay it’s a cool spec for sure wanted to see the hubbub

[rare willow]

yeah its just got alot of really key components on what you want in rbgs

[stray sigil]

@lime light dude i swear chiji proc is dog shit

it never procs

and when it does u dont want it to proc like outside ur 1min burst