pvp

[lime light]

if u heal with direct healing

or someone heals u, it is refreshed

[livid wasp]

messed up

[lime light]

with more gear = the value of the talent will go up even higher

u have id in the screanshot

[livid wasp]

gonna have to try to keep those in mind next time I face dk

thank you sir

[lime light]

happy to help

[livid wasp]

not that many around though, hope ill remember

whats the real name of the pet frenzy ability

[lime light]

but tracking it with omnibar isnt great idea

every death coil lowers the cd of it by 1 sec

ah and i forgot about

the most important thing

abomb limb

u always wanna use something vs this

[livid wasp]

okay so tahts the aoe thing

[lime light]

ye

its prolly the biggest cd in a game

its something like combust

but over time and aoe

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I found it funny that you said DK kept gripping you with no cd when you went MW but you only went MW once

Cuz well, yes there is a 2 min cd that grips you over and over

[grand mesa]

Hahaha yea

[clear pulsar]

So if you only tried to go MW once ofc they'll have it

[viscid remnant]

this mf

doesnt know

what is abom limb

[grand mesa]

Good ol slappy hands

[livid wasp]

dude I just play

[clear pulsar]

Tbf dk was irrelevant

Last 2 seasons

[lime light]

frost was not bad

[viscid remnant]

i mean yeah but u still faced it sometiems

[clear pulsar]

ESpecially 2s

[lime light]

or semi good

[livid wasp]

I should be leading wowhead guides to research shit I guess

[clear pulsar]

Frost was 3s niche

[viscid remnant]

tsg was pretty decent

atleast as a mordor comp

[clear pulsar]

David be real

Zechey can only play 2s

It takes 3h to find one person that will put up with him

Finding a 2nd would take up all his free time

And he wouldnt play

[livid wasp]

I dont complain like this in game

[livid wasp]

to my partners

[clear pulsar]

I dont believe you

[livid wasp]

anymore at least

[clear pulsar]

ANYMORE NICE

[livid wasp]

I just yell and hate myself

[clear pulsar]

Same bud

[lime light]

so u have depression

[clear pulsar]

My dota behavior score 10000 flat because I'm never opening mic

[livid wasp]

it just makes the others' spirit shit if you yell on chat

[clear pulsar]

I only yell and flame in my house

But dont open mic to do it

No one knows

No one is hurt

[viscid remnant]

i know

[clear pulsar]

[lime light]

i sometimes flame my jungle boys

on discord

but it is how it is

iam emotional player

[grand mesa]

So true tho. Idk how many people actually play better after getting flamed lol

[viscid remnant]

elpatron is the word of law around here

[lime light]

the problem is, they never flame back

and i know iam not right sometimes

just titled/angry

[viscid remnant]

because they are scared

of the might of el patron

[lime light]

idk i think they dont even notice that iam wrong

[clear pulsar]

Worst thing of arguing and flaming is when people dont do it back

I love arguing for no good reason

But people are pussy sometimes

[lime light]

me too

but the problem is they never

say anything back

[clear pulsar]

Today my spaghetti was delicious

Not overcooked like yesterday

Cuz whazz dont know how numbers work

[viscid remnant]

"whaaz"

[clear pulsar]

[viscid remnant]

[lime light]

Davider

enh rdy soon

u carry or i carry

[viscid remnant]

iwanna go 3x3 @lime light

but we are only 2

very sad

[lime light]

ye, but let me deal with this shit first

4/7 campagin

[viscid remnant]

[lime light]

maybe we some 3s with krevet

but not so sure what

he even plays

on horde now

think i queued with him once this ssn

walking dead

the campahin

is soo good

for renown

i swear

[viscid remnant]

problem with enh

what do u play

other than turbo

[lime light]

ww enh

outlaw enh

beastcleave

[clear pulsar]

Enh fearl pumps

[viscid remnant]

mongo squsihy comps

[clear pulsar]

[lime light]

turbo is the play prolly ye

but its easy to find a warrior

with my build

we just need a dps bot

i will heal more than u

[viscid remnant]

real

[clear pulsar]

I have one dps bot for you guys

Müsçülãrmæn

[lime light]

think the cd of chain harvest

will be around 30 sec

[clear pulsar]

@tardy hare hello I miss you

[viscid remnant]

oh ye

[lime light]

but he is ally

[viscid remnant]

he is a legendary gamer Müsçülãrmæn

[clear pulsar]

Oh nyo

[viscid remnant]

cross faction soon amirite

copium

[lime light]

sooo much renown

[tardy hare]

muscularman is a healer

#1 though

best holy priest abuser

[lime light]

play something on horde

[tardy hare]

no?

[lime light]

[tardy hare]

9.2.5 awaiter

[viscid remnant]

[clear pulsar]

Cross region when

[viscid remnant]

11.2

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

corss region so i can finally carry el patron

wtf do u do vs dh nowadays

that shit is traight up fukd

[viscid remnant]

pray

[stray sigil]

they do legit

10k dps

its unhealable

cant really kite them

[signal arrow]

CC as much as possible

[stray sigil]

cant kill them

cuz 45s blur

lmfao

[viscid remnant]

pray to elpatron he will smite him

[stray sigil]

its back to bfa dh

jesus fuck

ff this shit

so fast pls

[lime light]

i dont think so there is any good start vs dh's

[stray sigil]

OL

[lime light]

at this point

[signal arrow]

Especially with Survival hunter running diamond ice and the bear trap

[lime light]

just wait till they choke, get cleaved, randomly blur

[signal arrow]

But you can still lose

[lime light]

and do a go on them, and pray

that demon is not gonna spawn

in your go

[signal arrow]

It always does

[lime light]

mostly it does

[signal arrow]

The demon always spawns when the dh is at 10% 😂

That's my experience

[lime light]

and if they are with hpriest

the demon heals for like

3/4

with guardian

[signal arrow]

Yeah lmao

[lime light]

not much to do there tbh

its a counter to ww

u can try doing a good go, but its super hard

if u dont one shot in a leg

he is not gonna die

as feral, i would say go for damp, root on dr's

chase healer

[signal arrow]

As windwalker that matchup really sucks

[lime light]

if your healer dont oom super fast

u can win in damp

[signal arrow]

Yes be as annoying as possible for the DH

Maybe run high winds too and spam cyc

Dunno what feral gives up for it

[lime light]

nah

dont do it

if u stay and spam cyclone

u gonna tank

miliards of dmg

they have too many stops

[signal arrow]

I mean off of root for example

[lime light]

ofc u can cyclone when he is rooted a bit far

[signal arrow]

But yeah true

[lime light]

but overall not a good idea imo

[signal arrow]

Yeah probably right

[viscid remnant]

ye im playing with dh on my pala

the dmg is so dumb

[stray sigil]

bro

fury 4p

kinda stupid

lOL

[lime light]

mosmt of them

are

[stray sigil]

this dude coulda won the lottery

i swear had perma uptime

on reck

[lime light]

i seen some 55-60%

on reck

uptime

[stray sigil]

its like bro

i cant never do anything lol

[signal arrow]

Fury if you can't peel him off of you is as disgusting as DH tbh

In terms of dmg output and you have perma 40% heal reduce during reck

[stray sigil]

i can only run so much

i wanna do stuff to

like pls

[grand mesa]

Fury is nuts damage

[stray sigil]

looked him up

legit

mythic raider

XDDXXDDXDXDXD

[viscid remnant]

idk every fury i played with

is permalost to hunter

[stray sigil]

i mean sure hunter is diff

im playing ww atm

im already paper

[lime light]

idk

i heard

furry with good gear

is actually

smashing hunters

[stray sigil]

prob dont even need to play bolt

just play 2 charges

and perma uptime

[viscid remnant]

ye elpatron i didnt play with 4piecers

only 2 soafr

[stray sigil]

i dont even have 1p

[grand mesa]

There was one fury warrior that just fucked through every button recently. Like it was nuts how many buttons he chewed through and didn’t give a fuck and killed. Might have to look him up maybe he was 4pc

[stray sigil]

exactly what happened

dude trinketed an incap

when he has zerk

into a full disarm on his cds

but had 2 procs of reck in a row

[lime light]

i mean

ngl but i seen ferals

dogshit ones

also with 4 set

doing 10k dps in opener

or even more

the dot from it crits for 9k

on top of the ff crits

for 11k

legit 0 balance in the game

but not talking (this time) about classes

just about gear

[clear pulsar]

Yeah its garbage in pve too

You dont have tier you might as well not play

It's so huge

Resto tier in pve 25% heal increase
Feral tier in m+ 25% of ppl dmg

[lime light]

ok time to drink some jagermeister and try out of body experience

any yeppers

[grand mesa]

Next few weeks will be interesting. I hit 2.2 in 2s but me snd my dh partner have both been 4pc for a week or two. So I feel like we’ve been playing on borrowed time with an advantage

[clear pulsar]

It's a yellow condiment rly

Yeah good luck bud @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

Hahaha karma will come soon enough

[clear pulsar]

Time to retire on top

[lime light]

its basiclly like

[clear pulsar]

And only dragonslay

[lime light]

u are playing with s4 gear

and other ppl are s3 gear

thats how big sets are

[grand mesa]

Yeah it’s a big advantage for sure

Even the 9s of free tree is kinda nuts

[lime light]

ppl says its super op

the incarn proc

[grand mesa]

It’s really good. Hard to die if it procs at right time. And instant root and root half on dispel if melee on you

[livid wasp]

warlock players are such assholes

nobody likes facing that class

but they still play it

[main roost]

have you noticed the 9 sec incarn having much of an impact on mana (for either better or worse)?

[grand mesa]

In 2s naw. Rejuvs actually get cheaper in incarn

[clear pulsar]

Thats what theyre asking

IF you're lasting longer mana wise

[grand mesa]

I don’t notice a difference. You oom or have mana for other reasons lol

[main roost]

gotcha, cool 🙂

[signal arrow]

Haven't tried the 4 set yet I had it available but dropped it for more vers I think I'm gonna try it some games on the weekend instant root seems the biggest out of the tree proc tbh

[clear pulsar]

Ok breathe when you talk tho

[signal arrow]

I never feel like hps is the issue as Rdruid

[signal arrow]

Breathing is for nerds

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/comma-id-kill-catherine-ohara-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-17750835

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nod-catnod-yes-vibe-gif-21529329

[dusty stratus]

What so you guys do vs hpriest hunter, hpriest rogue & hpriest feral?

[grand mesa]

I pve heal my DH and eventually he kills them

[signal arrow]

That is exactly right 😂

I feel like Rdruid is the best healer vs hunter though

I sit full freezing traps while my hots just heal against the damage

[grand mesa]

I kinda feel the same

Who knows when everyone has 4pc tho

[signal arrow]

true

[livid wasp]

is blizzard ever gonna do anything about frost mage/lock in 3s

[viscid remnant]

they will nerf agies more

[safe heart]

Yeah probably buff their dam

[viscid remnant]

[safe heart]

Cuz they are "lacking in single target"

[livid wasp]

they should make the cc duration increase by 50% or something

20% is nothing

[viscid remnant]

real

[signal arrow]

It would be unplayable then lol

Imagine sitting a 10 second Kidney

kekW

[clear pulsar]

[viscid remnant]

ye

tahts not a problem with the trinket though

its a problem with rogue

[livid wasp]

they always release these trinks and its really just a couple classes who actually really benefit from them

so its essentially just a huge buff to lock and mage

[signal arrow]

Rogue / mage benefit from Resonator I think

But yeah it's specific classes that benefit more for sure

But most classes get value out of aegis

Just sad it's getting nerfed to the ground now

[viscid remnant]

got value from aegis cuz MLX and rmp are broken

[lime light]

anyone tried

out of body experience

or el patron is the first here

(per usual)

to try things like that

then peasants can follow the supreme owner

[viscid remnant]

i once smoked enough weed i thought there was an earthquake

does that count

[lime light]

no, we dont accept addictions

and ppl on crack

[viscid remnant]

i love crack

[lime light]

its pure nature

Ел Патрон

[tardy hare]

Nobody benefits from ignore next cc trinket vs feral though

[livid wasp]

in 2s sure its easy to handle but in 3s

when its someone else throwing ccs around

countless times ive gone for a root to break it then he just gets rooted cause hunter kicked or some shit

or tried to stun but nah

or alternatively he has stunned and ive rooted to break it but meanwhile hunter did an empty kick

then theres some frost mage playing resolve spamming frost bolts, too scared to go nearby to do any cc cause he will just fuck you

with his 1 minute cd up

[signal arrow]

That's more an issue of not playing with the same players to push 😅 you need to get the whole team on the same page

[edgy shale]

davider needs to learn clock.

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/time-flies-so-fast-clock-gif-24575450

[livid wasp]

sure if you are some really good team youll be able to coordinate your shit but game shouldnt be designed so that its absolute aids for the rest

[signal arrow]

Honestly on my windwalker monk I'm always happy to see that trinket Kick -> root -> Stun -> root -> Para -> root and everything is 20% longer

And at the end of it you can kick again

[tiny oar]

U mean like meditation?

[dusty stratus]

I think he means buddhism

[tiny oar]

I have had a few out of body experiences they weren't like self consciously induced tho

[viscid remnant]

no think no problem

[signal arrow]

I just mean in terms of cc you need some coordination 😅 dps and healing are very straight forward

If your mage keeps sheeping kill target you're gonna have a bad time

[signal arrow]

Haha fair enough ^^ don't wanna be R1 player I'd be good by hitting glad this season Elite should be doable in the next weeks but 3's is a completely different beast

[fair mirage]

efficiency is key

can't be faffing about

[signal arrow]

In 2's I'm usually playing laid back just sitting in the backline healing only maybe roaring off the occasional holy ward so my hunter mate can trap but in 3's I feel like we rarely win if I don't push for cc on the enemy healer

Eh we tried scatter play after spawn of damage played it in AWC

But Spriest was constantly dying 😅

That makes a lot of sense

Yeah I see what you're saying my experience so far has also been that meele cleave games have the tendency to be easier wins

Lmao yeah that's pretty accurate

Thank you for your input! I'll be back home on my pc tomorrow and I'll try to do some climbing in 3's hopefully

[fair mirage]

Wait until you start playing wizard cleaves.

Watch snape dome the ret 15 seconds into the match

[grand mesa]

Lol glyph that 100% matches my prior experience sometimes. When we got too cute, flowcharty, and algorithmic we did worse sometimes. And then we’re just like idk just fucking run someone down and that was sometimes more effective cause the dps just kept sending buttons 😂

[signal arrow]

Sounds good 🤙 thank you it is just a lot less obvious in 3's what the mistake is compared to 2's where there are less variables

[grand mesa]

Yeah that was really good insight appreciate it

[signal arrow]

Same usually

[grand mesa]

Is it the boxes that are color coded for danger?

I forget what it’s called

So you can review if you overreacted with buttons for medium dam

[signal arrow]

I mean CD's I don't usually miss cause of Gladiatorlossa

But reviewing games is big

[grand mesa]

SquadOV has been good for that

[signal arrow]

I'll check it out when I get home tomorrow 👍

I have Arena logs addon aswell to review past games

[grand mesa]

Yup. If you enable combat logging it records and uploads matches pretty much real time. Is reviewable within like 30s

I guess with twitch u can always just skim through your vod but it’s broken down easier imo

[signal arrow]

Eh my PC is too bad to stream

So recording should be better ^^

But what is the shadowplay that glyph mentioned? I only know the 3v3 comp shadowplay 😂

[grand mesa]

Nvidia feature. Let’s you rewind whatever you did 5-10 min or something along those lines I think

[signal arrow]

Ah I see thank you 👍

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar how does the catalyst work

if i have 1 tier

i can craft one next week

but can i also upgrade the one i have currently

or na

[rare willow]

i think the hotkey for reocrd is defaults like control alt r ?

in game?

[edgy shale]

no feejee

its 1 thing per week

at first

[rare willow]

^

or a particularly nice match too.

[signal arrow]

😂😂

yeah that makes a lot of sense I just think my graphics card is too old for shadowplay I'll check out SquadOV

[stray sigil]

what if i have lfr

can i uprgade that with pvp

or na

[grand mesa]

Yeah…

I hope that’s not the case

[stray sigil]

wdym

so if i have lfr tier its completely worthless

[edgy shale]

it turns it into a new piece of gear

that is completely separate

i mean its not worthless if it gives u 4p but yea lol

[grand mesa]

But if it’s created as a pvp item with the elite or duelist rank or whatever it might keep all the traits of pvp gear

[stray sigil]

so like ima have to re uphrade with honor

[grand mesa]

Upgradable/scales up in pvp

[stray sigil]

after the catalyst?

then i dont get what ur talking anbout

i must be stopid

ya

0/9 type shit

[signal arrow]

Wait if you take PvP set items from the vault they scale up in PvP? I didn't get any tier from my PvP chests yet so I wouldn't know

[viscid remnant]

Question

Will it cost anythjng

[grand mesa]

Yes. That’s confirmed

[stray sigil]

flux right

[viscid remnant]

To use this catalyst

[stray sigil]

i hope its not fucking conq

[viscid remnant]

And where is it even

[stray sigil]

to use it

cuz i will lose my shit

ookok

[grand mesa]

It behaves that way currently. We just don’t know if it works with tier created through catalyst

[viscid remnant]

Ye ihave like 10k or somethijg

[signal arrow]

Oh dang I didn't know that then PvP set pieces would be huge for me :O like 30 Itemlevel upgrade on a slot

[grand mesa]

You can assume it would and it would make sense to. But you never know

[stray sigil]

fuck i was gonna do lfr and like upgrade that

but im not gonna bother then

..

gonna have 1 tier

woo

[viscid remnant]

Thats heckin epix

[grand mesa]

Yeah I’m converting my pvp pieces to tier and taking the ilvl loss and not telling raid lmao

[stray sigil]

does it have to be a conq piece

to upghrade thru catalyst

or the honor one work

[signal arrow]

Might do the same haha

[north grove]

@stray sigil

[grand mesa]

Presumably it would. They just hotfixed to allow the cypher equipment the random gear from zereth mortis to work recently

[north grove]

u go rake > frenzy > swarm > rip > moon fire > trash?

[stray sigil]

so i could catalyst honor gear ?

[north grove]

as necro?

[grand mesa]

Don’t know for sure until Tuesday

[stray sigil]

ur opener u mean?

[north grove]

yes

after all bleeds i go maim?

[stray sigil]

zerk tf rake ff swarm rip moonfire

thats the big opener

[safe heart]

Your go is tiger + savage if playing it + frenzy + swarm

[stray sigil]

dont play sr anymore i dont think

[safe heart]

I've been playing it but idk if I like

[stray sigil]

u dont have to dr maim in opener

[safe heart]

If the game gets busy I barely keep up the buff but if I'm tunneling a target , it seems ol

[stray sigil]

but u could if u wanted

ur goes are in maim tho ya

[safe heart]

I always dr rake stun if it's hunterr

[stray sigil]

u would tf ff swarm maim

[safe heart]

Just wanna force as much frenzy dam

[stray sigil]

kinda thing

[north grove]

so

my friend is saying that im doing it wrong, that i shouldnt be berserking

on opener

but i got 4pieces

he says that i should berserk only after all my dots are in

so i can do more shreds and bites

after my bleeds are in

what do u think about it

[stray sigil]

i always zerk the openers

[north grove]

i think zerk in opener is bigf

ye me too

[stray sigil]

even before teh tier was a thing

like zerk doesnt matter for necro much

and now with 4p

i think its even better maybe to send it in opener

[north grove]

yea

[safe heart]

Yeah

Fuji is hundo P

[signal arrow]

I mean isn't opener technically the highest dmg anyways cause of rake from stealth?

[safe heart]

Yeah but I mean, that's not that big of a deal

60% dam on rake is dece but meh

[stray sigil]

can always play

[safe heart]

Just make sure you apply a rake before zerk drops

[stray sigil]

sudden ambush

and have big rakes throughout

[safe heart]

I thought sudden ambush would be op but I took adaptive instead

Idk proc percent seems too low

[stray sigil]

def take adapt tf one

bite or sudden

for last

[safe heart]

No I mean adaptive armor

The agi proc

[stray sigil]

na

[safe heart]

Swarm tf adaptive armor is what I use

[stray sigil]

idk bout that one

[safe heart]

The uptime is good, you'll have it for goes

Idk seemed like the most consistent thing

[high bronze]

do we use swarm on CD in 3s?

[safe heart]

Yes but don't risk not having it for FF

[stray sigil]

can prob use it once

outside of ur go

[safe heart]

Pretty much

Good question

[fierce zodiac]

Where do you get the "Gladiator's Medallion" for the trinket 2 piece set?

[fair mirage]

Honor/Conq vendor in Oribos.

By "The enclave".

[supple burrow]

is apex the for sure play for higher keys? seems like im competing against sin rogues

[edgy shale]

this is pvp chammel

but yes

ive done a lot of experimentation with both (some accidental cuz of leaving frenzy on from raid) and apex always leads to higher overalls with frenzy having higher per pack burst but then cringe low points

[viscid remnant]

Ok

[north grove]

newb question

is it better to keep that rival gear from last season (252 ilvl pvp) that gives more Versa, or equip the honor 259 pvp that gives less versa but a bit more stamina?

[signal arrow]

I think Itemlevel is more important with the changes to the trinket bonus than vers but 7 itemlevel is not a big difference I think if it's just that 1 piece won't make a big difference no matter how you decide 😅

But I would take the higher itemlevel one

[tropic schooner]

not gonna really matter but you also dont actually see pvp stats there

but id go higher ilvl

[signal arrow]

True the difference in the pic is only 3 itemlevel not 7 cause it compares the PvE stats

[tropic schooner]

yea

ya

could toss a coin

[safe heart]

Is shadow priest down bad

[lime light]

No

[fading ice]

Do tier sets work in PVP?

[lime light]

Yes

And they are super op

Most of them

[fading ice]

Wtf

I thought blizzard said they'd be disabled in pvp xD

[lime light]

Bad thought

[fading ice]

Apparently, been doing solo shuffle without my 4p but figured I'd double check... well that'll be nicer 😄

[clear pulsar]

I dont think that was ever said

If anything they doubled down on it by making pvp vault able to proc tier piece

[safe heart]

I saw stahp posted emo sp video

[viscid remnant]

idk who was saying this yesterday maybe feji or glyphiestro

but from what i saw in a video if u make a pvp item tierset it stays a pvp item

with the upgradeable and ilvl thing

[signal arrow]

Eh glyph said he doesn't know if it behaves like that but he hopes it does if I'm not mistaken

[viscid remnant]

i saw a video of mr gm

from 2 days ago

i think its accurate

[clear pulsar]

It does from vault pvp tier

So if it doesnt from catalyst thats sum bullshit

[signal arrow]

Ah alright then ^^

[grand mesa]

I don’t see why it wouldn’t work like that but who knows until Tuesday 😂

[signal arrow]

Yeah would only make sense if it doesn't that would be some real BS

[viscid remnant]

because blizzard

[signal arrow]

but honestly even if it doesn't I feel like blizzard would face enough backlash that they release it as a hotfix anyways

So I think it will work as intended

[clear pulsar]

Enough backlash from who?

The 2% of playerbase that care about pvp?]

[grand mesa]

They’ll make wow great again

[pallid coral]

yes it does

[viscid remnant]

i said it does why do u say it does XD

[pallid coral]

i was agreeing with you because dude below you said he didn't think it worked like that

[viscid remnant]

he forgor iam right

[signal arrow]

I said I don't know if it does, not that I don't believe it

Plus I was refering to this only ^^

[pallid coral]

ok well i was applying additional clarification

[viscid remnant]

ty mr guiltyASS 🙏

[pallid coral]

now we are all happy and know it works that way

very poggers

[signal arrow]

True thank you very much P O G G I E S indeed

[clear pulsar]

Guilty was looking for another brocc discussion

For no good reason

I'm onto you guilty

Lil ratta

[viscid remnant]

wanna argue

f2f

?

[clear pulsar]

[lime light]

Ok how does IT work

Again

[viscid remnant]

@lime light paler priester 1,8 both almost cap

what do now

XD XD

[pallid coral]

@clear pulsar i found this clip the other day of me being betrayed by masterful instincts the other day https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/24ljJ7E6m8l-0/ZZbRUqpDSiBX?invite=cr-MSx0eVgsNDUwMjE2ODEs

[clear pulsar]

Cant say I didnt do the same

Never on kill tho

[forest kite]

Making friends with enemies in rbgs lol

[pallid coral]

btw

the pvp enchant for th is season

is dope as hell

[grand mesa]

Cosmic? I couldn’t find a good weapon that shows it well

What are you using

[safe heart]

The enchant is unlocked at 2400 right

[viscid remnant]

2.1 i think

[grand mesa]

2.1

[clear pulsar]

Show

I couldnt find it on wowhead or youtube

[pallid coral]

it like makes your weapon glow white

and then adds like a

polyhedral pulse

a dodecahedron

Terestrian Strangle staff then s1 pvp weapon

also it overwrites some of the transmog restrictions

like

the naxx weapon

[grand mesa]

Oh????

Ok that’s kinda sick didn’t know that. I’ll have to fiddle with it more

[viscid remnant]

gotdam

[lime light]

wait

there is actually more enchants

then sinful

[stray sigil]

..

[pallid coral]

ye, there was a season 2 and a season 3 enchant

[fair mirage]

Yes, there's 3 illusions for the 3 seasons and there was already a 4th found on ptr.

[stray sigil]

how hard is normal sepulcher

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Fights are dumb easy

Pugs are dumb dumb

[stray sigil]

ok how hard is it on pugs

i need tier

[grand mesa]

Just depends on the group you have really

Can have 1 shot group or just a tragedy

[stray sigil]

fuck

@clear pulsar i go alliance u funnel me

sounds good

good tlak

[clear pulsar]

I dont even have ksm yet

Or any tier at all actually

If you meant tier

I can barely get into 15s as is

[viscid remnant]

wtf

i thought u were a pvegodx

[junior plover]

face is knowledge god

grandma hands

[tiny oar]

Big knowledge god

It is known

[lime light]

2nd after E.P

[viscid remnant]

real

[clear pulsar]

@viscid remnant I'm not raiding this tier and I just resubbed last week brother

[viscid remnant]

same

except i never raid

[rare willow]

i get my 4pc on tuesday i dont even want to play until then.

-_-

[proven wave]

Lol isn’t that a mood

[clear pulsar]

Same brothers

Same same

[forest kite]

Made an RBG group and the priest was crying because we had 2 rogues

And then the Mage cried because we had 2 hunters in another group lol

I thought having 2 rogues is a good thing lol

Op as shit

Go together and take bases

[livid wasp]

why dont rogues play outlaw more

absolutely broken

evasion every 30 sec or something

and full range blind

impossible to kill

with hpal

[viscid remnant]

cuz assa with nf priest has 30 second cd on vendetta

[livid wasp]

is there even a point going for outlaw

[edgy shale]

idk bout this ssn, but i know in 9.1.5 it was fuckin pumping

like more sustain than the other 2 specs

just pve u to daeth in 2s

[livid wasp]

so hard to hit 2.1k it makes me cry

[polar nymph]

I believe in you

[livid wasp]

wish I could

[glad obsidian]

Any of you restos out there got your 4P ? I have yet to see a Druid with it

My resto friend only has 1pc so far sadly

[safe heart]

Yo fearl pumps

[grand mesa]

Ya

[rare willow]

did you just get 4set ?

[safe heart]

Nah I'm still 2/4

[rare willow]

ah yeah. it still does good damage but everyone says 4pc is just wild. 5k dps single target on beserk useage

[livid wasp]

they really should make it so that if you lose to a hunter comp you dont lose any rating

[viscid remnant]

real

and same with rmp/mlx in 3s

[rare willow]

lol 100%

and hunters lose double rating when they do lose

[livid wasp]

why are outlaw rogues so broken

jesus

fucking impossible to kill

do I really have to try to kill their holy pala instead of them

[rare willow]

the cd on evasion is way too low

[safe heart]

Yeah I never try to kill them

[rare willow]

yeah

[safe heart]

Evasion on a 5s cd

[livid wasp]

why doesnt every rogue play that shit

just auto win against anything

[rare willow]

shadowlands went crazy with alot of power increasers, but they really just went too hard on cool down reduction mechanics

30second vendettas, 30second evasions, 30second combustions

[grand mesa]

I agree with that

[rare willow]

like they really went off the chain

[grand mesa]

CDR has gotten nuts

[rare willow]

blind too. what is it like 1min 15s for outlawa?

1.5min?

[grand mesa]

1.5 I think

[livid wasp]

and theyre allowed to have feint for stuns too

warrs really need hard nerfs too

impossible to kill

[viscid remnant]

mby u need a buff

XD

[grand mesa]

XD

[livid wasp]

ridiculous dmg and survivability

cant be cced

cause of spell reflect and kicks

bladestorm

[rare willow]

i dont think fury needs a 40% mortal strike, outside of that i think wars are as close to balance as theyre likely to get

[livid wasp]

arms is more broken

[safe heart]

I think war is just too strong baseline, doesn't require good plays to win most of the time

[rare willow]

maybe the execute proc above 20% is a little out of whack sttill

yeah

[safe heart]

Like dh and war, they're just too oppressive for no reason

Dh is more Manageable than war tho

Atleast dh can't spell reflect

[livid wasp]

I just wanna freaking hit 2.1k so I can upgrade my gear

[safe heart]

Yeah I got 2050 in 2s but 3s I'm stuck 1850 giga

So hard

[livid wasp]

my best in 2s was 2076

[safe heart]

You're right there

[edgy shale]

@vestal citrus i know y'all were talking bout this yesterday or whenever

looks like the upgrades will be maintained in creation catalyst from pvp / m+ which is great for pvpers

@stray sigil u look too

[viscid remnant]

Warr is okay

[stray sigil]

so my lfr piece

is dog shit

@edgy shale

we are pist

[viscid remnant]

The biggest problem is rogue/hunter imo

[stray sigil]

surely i get a piece in vault this week

lul

[viscid remnant]

Surely

[edgy shale]

yea ur LFR piece is dog shit except to give u 4p. u can't upgrade it, but u CAN upgrade any pvp pieces u get

which is clutch

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-clueless-clueless-emote-wojak-disturbed-gif-24266075

[stray sigil]

why only 1 a week

are they

[edgy shale]

davider...u don't even know clock

[stray sigil]

special i nthe head

[edgy shale]

yes

[viscid remnant]

😡😡😡

[edgy shale]

i will never get over how funny that argument was.

[viscid remnant]

🕰️ 👈

[edgy shale]

exactly

[viscid remnant]

⏰📖

U see iam studying the clock

[stray sigil]

study my clock

[edgy shale]

1 day u will understand clock.

[viscid remnant]

Yep cock

[safe heart]

[stray sigil]

listen i did

8/8 lfr

so i ahve a chance

at 246 tier piece

i will get it

[rare willow]

lol

[viscid remnant]

[stray sigil]

then i will smite all these peasants in the 2v2 rbacket

dhs

spit on their coprpses

[viscid remnant]

Feji u will get pvp tierset no matter what befalls u

Because you are elpatron's trusted vassal

[stray sigil]

u fukin jinxed me

its doomed

pray to el patron

[safe heart]

Fuji I watched some vibeos I sent you 100 years ago

[viscid remnant]

🙏

[stray sigil]

@lime light gimme tier

which ones are that

[viscid remnant]

Do not disturb him in his sleep

[stray sigil]

needs his beauty sleep

tru

[stray sigil]

which

[safe heart]

When I was hard stuck 1400 in s1

They were still on my YouTube

[stray sigil]

oo must be some prime content to watch now

LOL

[safe heart]

Yeah lololol
Like it's not giga cringe but it's all so obvious now

Disciple of fuji

[stray sigil]

ur outta there now poogers

[livid wasp]

teach me how to hit 2.1k

[safe heart]

Step 1

Play nf / hpriest

That's enough for 2k by itself

To hit 2.1 tho you have be very careful to queue dodge hunters at all costs

And rogues

And probably warlocks

[edgy shale]

dodging rogue? so ur dodging every game then

[livid wasp]

I only have problems against outlaws

and 4-set assa rogues

[stray sigil]

got 2.1 2nd week of ssn playing nf feral hpriest

pretty free

i wonder if the nf preist cd reduc work with 1min convoke

[livid wasp]

I really wish I could just play and try to enjoy it and not get mad at the video game

but its so hard

[edgy shale]

idk. i can play pve all day and not get too mad, but wow pvp makes me so mad

thats why i dont do it that much my blood pressure gets fucked

just mad from purely being ass

[livid wasp]

yeah raiding is chill and all but the dopamine reward is meh compared to arena

[fair mirage]

ele players bein cringe again

[stray sigil]

just kill the vesper bro

[fair mirage]

Like, it'll generally be stormkeeper, fling vesper into africa, skyfury, then relocate and bang but I'd still prefer if gimmick 1-shots were reduced or removed entirely. Imagine all the newbies who got 1-banged by a feral voke and decided to just play literally any other game.

[forest kite]

@edgy shale make sure you are dispelling sepsis dots against hunters

[edgy shale]

[karmic garnet]

hi are there any castable debuffs on enemy npc/boss/player that increases their damage taken that can be used to burst damage? (something like chaos brand but shorter duration ) to monitor for damage potential?
something that warrior or rogue casts and called to burst flag carry

[edgy shale]

bruh instead of praying for LFR tier u should just do at least 1 15 a week and it can turn into 278 tier

[tiny oar]

Feji does not do gross ass pve shit

But ya I agree its p easy to just do one key a week

[edgy shale]

he's doing LFR which is some of the most grueling pve there is in this world of warcraft

[tiny oar]

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

Lmao fuji down bad

[stray sigil]

u think im getting into 15s

on my ww woth no io

[tiny oar]

[edgy shale]

yes

cuz ur feejee

[safe heart]

when you guys make an alt do you typically have the do all the inital lead up to torghy?

[edgy shale]

no u can skip shit

[safe heart]

how

[edgy shale]

u just talk to the dude and its like..do u wana skip? and i say YE

[safe heart]

well i said "yeah skip to zereth"

but like

i wanna make lego and its making me do torghy intro, cant mount etc

[edgy shale]

u gotta talk to him again and do the ZM skip

thnk thats what i did?

[safe heart]

i wonder if its fucked since i started doing it already

[edgy shale]

possibly

[safe heart]

gunna go check the npc rq before i unchain boyo

youre a goddam heero

time to make double wego

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

wow i can mount now

i fucked myself on my mage then hundo p

oh

can you send flux to alts or no

[edgy shale]

i dont think so

[safe heart]

frig

[edgy shale]

but its really easy to farm it cuz of all the one time chests that have 200

[safe heart]

lets do this

just need 4k flux

brb chainzboi

gotta go find some Flux to give

[mellow turret]

BG ques are insane

why is it taking so long

[lime light]

Cuz no one plays it

[tiny oar]

Ye q shuffle or rbgs

Bgs are ancient history 4 sure

[fair mirage]

why do bgs lol

[lime light]

I do bgs myself too

With egirls tho

[livid wasp]

bgs are all I did through wotlk to legion

I was like fuck arena lol

[narrow crane]

Queue as alliance

[tiny oar]

@stray sigil ILY 💚

[lime light]

Where is EP

We did turbo yesterday with a warrior

Lakes

[tiny oar]

ddid u win every game

[tiny oar]

just line the slam enji

[viscid remnant]

Hi

[safe heart]

Ah yeah duh

[tiny oar]

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO FDACIVER

HOPE UR HAVING A GO0O0D DAY

[viscid remnant]

ok chill out i just woke up

But look my cat very cute

[tiny oar]

i got no chill david none zero0 akll out of fucking chill

thats a rly cute cat thooooo

[lime light]

Kinda cool

The cat

Davider i have 3 chars to cap

Ok

[viscid remnant]

ihave 0 :)

[lime light]

Level something then

[viscid remnant]

dh soonish

[lime light]

Want me to do shit on pala ?

But then i need to cap other classes

Maybe i give up ww

Not having much fun on it rn

Too many hpriests

[viscid remnant]

the problem is that

mw and rsham suck

[lime light]

Mw is good

Rsham idk maybe its time to Play other legos

Not the smorc one

But overall true about rsham

[viscid remnant]

look at mw tier

does nothing

[lime light]

Its not too bad

Go for mw

[viscid remnant]

2set literally does nothing

[lime light]

But rdru op

With tier

[viscid remnant]

rdru boring 2play

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

Hmm

Idk is it

[tiny oar]

I dont thinnk so

Maybe if u are afk bear affer

[lime light]

Mw fun

But feral and assa

Foks it

[tiny oar]

Yea get fucking w keyed by every rmp

But the gameplay is nice

[viscid remnant]

i dont like how it does 0dmg

i like pala

bigdam judge

[tiny oar]

Yea big dam judge do feel nice

[lime light]

U can execute tho

But ye no damg

[viscid remnant]

i dont like how

rdruid ur whole gameplay

is extending cenward

[lime light]

Isn't it a bit different with tier set

[forest kite]

Hi, any idea where battleground timers come from? I have double bg timers on my screen suddenly, one is from capping. If I turn of capping, the other one remains.

[tropic schooner]

dbm probably

[obtuse bramble]

what to do if your healer constantly drags the DH out of your los when you cast a clone or want to root?

(besides telling him and being ignored?)

gnah

[clear pulsar]

Root healer and swap DH out of los

[tiny oar]

Nah not rly, same shit

[viscid remnant]

ye idk

i did capping games

it was just not fun

[mellow turret]

i am alliance

[narrow crane]

Alliance queues are sub 5m even on the worst days though?

Unless you’re trying to play at 5am on a weekday I guess?

[mellow turret]

idk bro i rarely get bg under 10-12 min que

maybe because im low honor level only 7

[lime light]

@viscid remnant have u seen

Drainurs

Mw bolid

[viscid remnant]

no

what is it

melee ? XD

[lime light]

I think its the Tiger palm wws lego

For crit

Idk he just soloed ap

Sp

[livid wasp]

why is rdruid/destro so op

[livid wasp]

they should make it so that if you play enough at 2k you get pity duelist upgrades

instead of having to hit 2.1k

dunno why they havent nerfed rdruid yet

everything is so broken with it in 2s

cant kill the dps cause of the hots and cant kill rdruid

[lime light]

Ayayaya

Not so sure if drwinurx back is strong e enough @livid wasp

[viscid remnant]

u get upgrade on 1950

making it 2k doesnt makesense

[grand mesa]

Yeah they already added inbetween ranks which was good decision

[livid wasp]

im not gonna make a fool out of myself infront of 500 people

I dont know what he wanted to do that game apparently he wanted to kill hpriest

[misty shuttle]

tacs vs rogue mage?

[livid wasp]

I dont know just win

[grand mesa]

Rogue mage my weakness. Have never figured it out well lol

[mellow granite]

Not a fun comp to go against by any means

[grand mesa]

Playing feral aff and matching rogue re:s with stealth rakes have made it consistently much closer tho?

Reso go’s adding another thing to force your buttons has been annoying

[mellow granite]

Ye resonator makes it way harder from my experience

Like they can hold all their major cds just because they can bait a trinket with resonator

[misty shuttle]

interesting, ty

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

why cant they nerf demo locks

[stray sigil]

lmao tians a rat

[lime light]

Yes

It was my request

[livid wasp]

so sad how some rdruids abuse feral affinity