i can alrdy imagine how i want to play then i q with some mordor dumbass when i have 0 gear into max gear hunter and unhealable dam and die
#pvp
viscid remnant
viscid remnant
ye maybe now that i dont have a job i have all the time to play
its 50/50 want and dont want
u knowwhat i mean
lime light
ye
i instantly dont wanna play
if i face hunter
or debil hunter
DH is also doing 4-5k dps
but not pressing anything
honestly
viscid remnant
i think i will wait to see if they nerf hunter and rmp and if yes then prob will play
but i dont want to play against that
lime light
not so sure
if they will
its super rng
sometimes they insta nerf early in a ssn
or sometimes they dont do anything
livid wasp
devs play hnter so
viscid remnant
ppl are saying that maybe after world first kill they will do balances
but i doubt that
but iam waiting still because rmp is the stupidest comp in life
shell skiff
If we dont get class tuning 15min after the rwf is over we are legally allowed to leave
tropic schooner
pvp tunings dont really have much to do with pve
there isnt all too much reason to change stuff that much in pve sure some classes underperform
but for example holy priest is absolutely bonkers in pvp and 100% needs a nerf, in pve I wouldnt say so
maybe very slight but not even close to the same ballpark as the pvp ones
viscid remnant
Ye but in reality
What will happen is maybe a small nerf for pve
Because they dont care much about pvp
I hope they prove me wrong
blissful belfry
but for example holy priest is absolutely bonkers in pvp and 100% needs a nerf, ...
hihi. its just 1 fight i know iknow
blissful belfry
ya
pvp specific buffs and nerfs can help round things out
but theres a limit in how they can tune it too i guess
tardy hare
a surv hunter rdru just lost to me
i have never been more disgusted by someone before
imagine if i could
had to resort to /rofl
tiny oar
I usually hit em with the /clap
austere mesa
Does balance or feral have any synergy in a comp with arms ?
tiny oar
Tier for sure yea :)
grand mesa
This week is the week
iron grove
I don’t care at all about tier
Just want to loot something I can use
Don’t even care if it’s a medallion
As long as it’s a usable upgrade anything else is a bonus
Alts feel exhausting this patch 
haughty compass
Moonkin has quite a few comp options tbh
tropic schooner
Alts feel exhausting this patch <:Sadge:911194216120614952>
why?
iron grove
Idk maybe I’m just lazy …
tropic schooner
to me it feels like you really dont need to do much
iron grove
Feels like I’m too poor tho
iron grove
I don’t have any gold for my ally feral my main feels good tho
tropic schooner
sure not ideal but like 225 legos
are essentially free
which you can get temporary
livid wasp
why is hpriest/bm hunt so aids
I tried going priest for once but that doesnt work for sure
shell skiff
Because hpriest is overtuned and hunt is hunt
safe heart
Surv hunter / healer is go next wym
signal hawk
safe heart
Nf always gunna fine in morder
I think nf not getting buffed really
NOW gotta be the play
stray sigil
symmetryy LOL
big yoke
does nothing for convoke
whats mordor
liek 1.2
?
4 piece incarn frenzy pog
stark plover
In solo queue, find I've enough defense now as Nf, not sure necro is needed, but more burst and dmg I could use, or rather play better with the burst Nf has. This is in what seems to be approx 1200-1400 rated people, so really we're all just just almost randomly hitting stuff
final pollen
iron grove
Pressing convoke 
safe heart
You can win every single solo queue 6/6 if you play cc trinket and convoke opener
I using it to farm soloist title
Does aegis stop any pally damage
Does holy count as magic
tiny oar
yea
haughty compass
I’ve tried so many alts... convoke moonkin still the most fun
I’ve just been a freaking balance Druid for 15 years, want a new style but I can’t get into anything
safe heart
I haven't played for 15 yrs but I feel the same way about feral
My 2nd favorite class is spriest but I'm actual dogwater at it
empty ingot
Is there a content creator that plays NF boomkin in pvp?
empty ingot
😭 but the meme convokes are so fun
twilit siren
does disentanglement get rid of trap?
lime light
Only slows
dim stump
Recommendations on someone to watch to learn Resto for pvp?
Also curious if its viable to play a Resto Affinity balance or feral and be like a half healer half dps. Not sure if that's a thing but sounds fun
tiny oar
Also curious if its viable to play a Resto Affinity balance or feral and be like...
not rly but ur already an offhealer on those specs just by pressing regrowth/frenzy. resto streamers to learn from in pins, would recommend flop specifically
forest kite
I swear everytime I play with a french person from Hyjal, they are extremely toxic and bad at the game
Guy was abusing this paladin in solo shuffle, cringe yikes
sullen glacier
Never thought actual shooter-game like toxcicity could come to WoW, but then again: i play WoW as a hyper casual 😅
forest kite
@sullen glacier oh it's people that play league of legends and Valorant that come into wow
sullen glacier
Explains alot actually xD
tardy hare
Pretty sure the shitter pvp kids were always toxic before anyway
forest kite
Yeah true
forest kite
Gonna try play feral in 3s, jungle is best comp right? 
obtuse bramble
biggest comfort info ever.
queen drift
what do you guys think will be the meta for boomies with the second legendary?
kyrian maybe? with the affinity + dreambinder legendaries
or necrolord with circle?
saw some people play necrolord with dreambinder for the starfall dmg as well
tiny oar
Notes from today: feral druid rdruid 2s is not a great comp
tight void
what do you guys think will be the meta for boomies with the second legendary?
Think it will be comp dependent. Necro with circle for owlplay/rot caster cleave. Kyrian with dreambinder if you run with melee.
obtuse bramble
Has any Feral in here a completed 4piece? :>
queen drift
Think it will be comp dependent. Necro with circle for owlplay/rot caster cleave...
I hate having to craft multiple legendaries, I'm too poor for that 😢
but thanks!
smoky frigate
anyone did some ptr testing on which is the best slot for unity leggo as resto?
pallid coral
Has any Feral in here a completed 4piece? :>
yes
obtuse bramble
Oh wow, congrats. Is it very impactful for you? I assume, you play Necrolord?
pallid coral
it feels pretty good yeah
does ok damage in pvp
it's about 15-25k on each use per person
lime light
Hmm
What's the base DMG of it
When u mouseover the set
I seen something around 20k for a pve player
With our versa and mast
And swarm + tf
Should be decent dmg
But still on like 150 sec cd
obtuse bramble
Nice to hear.
But didn't they remove TF-scaling?
obtuse bramble
But still on like 150 sec cd
Dunno, I always found Berserk to be slightly lackluster for the big CD it is. So a big bleed on top sure does sound nice to me
storm heron
Gonna try play feral in 3s, jungle is best comp right? <:Pandauwu:85933905774628...
Me and some rl friends (arena noobs) played our first 15 games last night. We won 11 of them, just seemed to have so much damage. If you land the traps they just panic
glass girder
Quick rdruid question. How much haste needed to allow incap roar into cyclone? Trying to set a base so I can stack mastery after that. Thanks.
lime light
Idk i just dont like things - like the feral set with big CD
safe heart
Quick rdruid question. How much haste needed to allow incap roar into cyclone? ...
you can pull it off with like 3% haste
glass girder
Thx Aucat
lime light
Also depends on your ms
I have around 50 to 120
And its way harder to do it when i have higher at the tome
forest kite
Mm hunter does not work in jungle comp does it?
safe heart
it does but you need to look that man in the eyes and say "just because you are mm, does not give you an excuse to miss every trap"
lime light
Mm Has super high burst
And due to some buggs
Their pvp mods are not working properly
Mostly in openers
harsh jasper
Any opinions/thoughts on what leggo to pair with Unity for Nfae for feral PVP?
Seems like without 4 piece tier, maybe going symmetry for more bites/burst....
Then with 4 piece maybe frenzyband ?
stark plover
i'm thinking also might use Natural Order for more defense as NF
but mainly doing solo shuffle and finding defense is already fine, offense is where i'm bad. Thinking might even try Kyrian. But I'm borderline terrible, 1200 range, so really just musing bad ideas out loud 😄
main plan is actually to do more torgast, for cinders and make lots of legendaries and see what feels best/fun for me
livid wasp
youre not suppose to have fun
stark plover
😛
safe heart
well basically if youre necro, youre playing draught no question + ur cov lego for stats mainly
outside of that symmetry has decent synergy with the burst rotation for kyrian
for NF youre reallly just all in on the convoke so like you can just pick anything really
(all of this until a month or so after today where we find out what the meta shakes out too)
safe heart
yeah
livid wasp
I think they deserve that since theyre kinda weak
viscid remnant
stark plover
necro feral is all about the strong defense right, or is dps ok too? really not getting a lot out of convoke (though trying to do cheesy 1shots with new trinket if i can get someone isolated) but wonder if kyrian would do better overal dmg in practice
safe heart
necro feral has high sustained damage
kyrian will definitely not do more damage over all but it will probably do more damage in a burst window
kyrian is the middle ground between the 2 covs so to speak
kyrian is more bursty than necro but you lose fleshcraft
and kyrian go and set up is cleaner and more consistant game to game than nf
but nf is all in max damage in shortest amount of time if its covered / set up correctly
its like a sliding scale of sustain vs burst and consistency vs rng one shot
going from necro consistent sustain to nf rng one shot
stark plover
cool thanks, really appreciate the explanation, i think i'll get Kyrian and Necro up to 80 renown and give them a proper try, i did start 9.0 as kyrian and liked them, until i got a taste of convoke, but its more for pve for me i think, in pvp i just really don't get a lot out of it, at my skill level, sometimes it amazing but 80% of the time it flops
safe heart
if you play with a hpriest in 2s as nf you can get fairly high pretty easily
the stun / chastice go every minute is actually insane
but yeah for 3s / pushing high, i think youd be smart to get kyrian / necro caught up and get practiced on it
consistent go's are valuable
lime light
Also
Bomb LEGO + pouch
Poison LEGO + pouch
Fd LEGO + pouch
My favorite now
Orc + sephuz + pouch
Or fd
lime light
The sentance
High dps = necro feral
Is wrong in this patch
High dps is dh
Dk
Warrior
safe heart
yeah necro feral is just dece damage all game
stark plover
don't think i'd get getting high rating, not really my goal, more jsut want to get back into wow and pvp properly, get to stage where i feel i'm having fun and feel like i'm been effective, playing well, with skills i've got
safe heart
necro will give you best success rate game to game
the one thing i hate about nf is that almost any hunter game, any lock game etc can just be go next because of pets
because it goes from stun 2 things , to having to fear bomb pets and healer while stunning other guy far enough away from pets that they dont eat the damage
or like locks who can kick during a stun, so you have to telgraph your go super hard by cloning their pet or osmething
with necro you almost literally pve 1 person all game and they just cant stop you
safe heart
yeah if you get turtle from killing pet
safe heart
i dont usually like to just convoke pet tho
lime light
For a while
short fjord
What do you guys think
Of kyrian feral with draught
Played jsut like Necro
But without a useless extra leggo
More bite damage
obtuse bramble
less dot damage (you're pretty much losing out on 40% with high uptime on swarm after a while with double leggos)
a bit higher burst
obviously
short fjord
Gaining like 30 percent mastery though
worthy vessel
i seem to recall a mechanic in BFA where if you filled your conquest bar (pvp tab) you got a free piece of gear the following weekly reset? is that still in play? i filled mine this week 1900/1900 and i'm not sure where to pick up the free loot (if that still exists)
short fjord
You needed to fill your vaults honor caps
obtuse bramble
there's a thing called Great Vault
safe heart
Of kyrian feral with draught
kinda think playing circle to boost frenzy on ur burst would be better than that
like i dont find that kyrian is able to really do dmg between go's at all honestly
like im pretty confident in my ability to do damage and i feel like im doing nothing
worthy vessel
there's a thing called Great Vault
Thanks guys
safe heart
not sure that boosted bleeds is gunna make much difference for kyrian but idk
short fjord
@safe heart I mean if you change nothing about the play style of kyrian vs Necro
How is it any different?
safe heart
because youre not getting the swarm or moonfire
short fjord
Mastery is bleeds and bite
dim stump
Anyone know if flops resto druid guide for 9.0.5 is still up to date? Not sure how much has changed since then
safe heart
mastery doesnt affect moonfire right, even if talented?
short fjord
I’m going to test it tonight but it might be ass idk
Like if all you get out of Necro is 40 percent dot damage
You mitigate a bit of that with kyrian mastery and gain the fact that it effects bite too
safe heart
yeah i mean, i think its been said by the pve'ers that draught is the de facto single target lego so i mean, makes enough sense
i guess i tend to just dismiss overall damage when im playing kyrian
and only care about my burst in a stun
forest kite
My hunter said bro we need to hit the same target and im like, im a fucking glowing red cat attacking the paladin, can you not see me? 😄
safe heart
which is why draught didnt appeal to me
short fjord
My thoughts for kyrian are either what we just discussed, playing tiger fury leggo or energy leggo
So you can get more bites off
safe heart
yeah symmetry seemed like the natural choice for kyrian, directly makes your go's stronger
short fjord
I’ll test our draught tonight see if it’s good
safe heart
5maim -> TF FF kyrian stuff -> 5pt bite -> 4pt bite -> 4pt bite
short fjord
It might not be worth to play moon fire actually
stray sigil
sym 🤮
short fjord
Gain the bite damage and extension on rip
safe heart
if its not affected by mastery, id say dont play it ngl
40% damage on moonfire alone is just meh
ranged generator is nice but just doesnt fit
short fjord
Still get 2/3 benefit off draught
safe heart
yeah i mean the rake and rip dmg will be nice
plus you get free extend on it like you said
i wouldnt hate it for that to be dece
currently i have 291 sym draught and circle
safe heart
its never been a more confusing time to play a feral lol
short fjord
There’s just a lot of viable options I think
safe heart
^^^
short fjord
Good and bad situation to be in
safe heart
confusing but also great
yes yes
unironically in a situation where 3/4 covs are legit viable
you could actually choose based on your preference / cov aesthitic right now
kindred marten
You don’t ever play moon fire as kyrian
And I’m thinking we buff ourselves now for mastery bonus + 15% lone empowerment damage so every frenzy you get fat bleed dam and with symmetry 3 big bites in a row with berserk or on non berserk goes with one global between them
My question is if we play circle as necro now or if draught is still the play even with swarm splitting
safe heart
u can try circle + locust but i feel like all its gunna be is pad damage
because like maintaining 2-3 rips gunna be hard and you cant justify playing primal wrath
like we dont have crushing multi target dotting like warlocs do
smoky frigate
-*
safe heart
draught + extra stats / potnetial uptime from locust is best you can hope for IMHO
i do think necro will still be strong though, dont get me wrong there
kindred marten
I was thinking play wrath into double melee with circle
short fjord
@kindred marten you say that but no one has tried kyrian with draught yet
kindred marten
And toying with the idea of playing moment of clarity for more omen procs for easier rip uptimes
I mean sure but kyrians about doing burst while empowered so why would you give up 20% bite damage from sabretooth
safe heart
just play KA + draught but dont take moonfire
40% dmg on moonfire not worth
the bigger bites are gunna land you the kill
kindred marten
Right so go symmetry
kindred marten
your kills happen in fury-frenzy goes the rip and rake damage even with draught is not gonna win you games without having adaptive swarm on too
Top*
If draught affected feral frenzy then it might be different but it doesn’t so it’s about bite dam your bleeds do nothing other than frenzy
Cats eye maybe so u can get more max energy bites but I doubt it
short fjord
@kindred marten you’re not even thinking about it properly
safe heart
if you play soul the max energy bites dont really matter tbh
short fjord
You lose 40 percent dot damage as kyrian
safe heart
which, you should play soul obv
short fjord
But gain 30 percent mastery
So you become a more hybrid dot and Bite build
Play it the same as Necro but you’re bites hit harder
safe heart
yeah thats the argument that makes me want to atleast try it
short fjord
I think kyrian will be lack luster even with symmetry
safe heart
i wont play lunar tho
short fjord
Yea that makes sense
safe heart
itll hinge on how much pressure you gain from having meaningful bleeds
kindred marten
And you’re not thinking about how important having adaptive swarm on top of draught is to make draught viable for necro
safe heart
kyrian with draught playstyle specifically , effectiveness taken out of the equation, sounds really fun atleast
would be really cool if it was dece
short fjord
@kindred marten I don’t think you’re getting how much mastery you get from kyrian self buff
Almost nullifies swarms buff
safe heart
yeah his point is that youre gaining like 30% mastery to make up for swarm
so theoretically it evens out
short fjord
It’s 12 percent extra baseline
24 buffed
So losing out on 16 percent dot damage during swarm but gaining 12 percent all the time
And bite damage on top
Oh wait it’s less than 16 percent cause of pelagos
short fjord
What does it equal
rain kindle
hey, what comps for Rdruid are very strong in 3s rn?
short fjord
@safe heart it’s hard to tell because I don’t have details at work but I swear my rip and Frenzy are ticking harder as kyrian
safe heart
than necro?
kindred marten
Right but draught doesn’t do anything for frenzy or bites, and you’re not killing with draught bleeds you’re killing with empowered frenzy and bites
So with draught sure you’re doing more consistent dam but then just go necro if you want that pressure
short fjord
Meh idk actually i can’t tell without details
safe heart
this time next week, we will have some hard stats to look at
im gunna try kyrian this week sym circle and draught
short fjord
@safe heart ff and kyrian empower lineup nice too
kindred marten
See circle could be insane
I’d think that would be better than draught
Cuz then ur frenzy is done by the time you’re done biting lol
forest kite
@safe heart tyty
Hmm yeah strange, 1 session I was with a mm hunter and priest and hunter died every game I thought yeah they will go hunter every gane he can't really stand still and cast aimed shots,
But another session with different players same specs, we won every game cleanly and relaxing
It must be the skill and experience difference
dusty echo
Who you que against is also factor
safe heart
Yeah like if you play with a hunter who can't kite , it's gg
I'd like to play kyrian ngl just not sure kyrian is the play with bm hunter
kindred marten
Play kyrian with survival hunter or fury warrior maybe
kindred marten
Cuz they pump
And running kitty last season with arms was all about just going to pump town
Arms is still fine I’m sure
livid wasp
looks like we're getting a fourth season
safe heart
Fr ??
livid wasp
yes
on wowhead
next expansion 2023 summer or something then? lol
or its a short season
livid wasp
how long did s2 last again
patent monolith
If im opening pvp box for resto should i do it as resto or as balance?
safe heart
Would assume resto
blissful belfry
u can hit 1200 with no covenant and no weapon
kindred marten
And no partner
lime light
@safe heart not so sure
lime light
I would assume necro is better
blissful belfry
yesterday, my partner starts the Q, then leaves for a 30 min phone call without tellin me
cringe
safe heart
Did you win
iron star
Would vers and haste be ok for pvp and pve
lime light
As what
safe heart
As druid obv
dim stump
Hey guys, looking to play an aggressive feral affin resto in pvp. What gear stats do I want? I know usually you want Vers Haste on everything, but maybe a bit of mastery to make the feral a bit stronger. Is there a haste breakpoint I should be hitting?
viscid remnant
read what mastery does when you are resto spec
dim stump
read what mastery does when you are resto spec
Im not in game right now, doesnt it make your HoTs stronger?
So should I go mostly haste with ~2 pieces with mastery?
dry nymph
Why do I see all the rbg boomys using the balance lego
Is that the biggest damage output for us in team fight settings?
shell skiff
mostly haste with ~2 pieces with mastery what does this even mean?
dim stump
*mostly haste with ~2 pieces with mastery* what does this even mean?
All my gear pieces will have the haste and vers stats, expect for two, which will have mastery vers. Giving me the most vers possible, then high haste, and a small but hopefully not insignificant amount of mastery
zinc wadi
uhh is anyone elses kyrian unity not working in pvp?
or in general
LMFAO
uhhhhhhhhhh
safe heart
yeah mines not working lol
grand mesa
Cinch bugs currently . You might have to relog or requip both legos then relog to get the effect
short fjord
Yea same
safe heart
yeah relogging fixed
short fjord
I forgot to rip
safe heart
yeah i didnt heal wife at all lol
wouldve helped
@short fjord were u playing draught
or circle
safe heart
yeah i wanted to see how much you did but was pretty short
im gunna try it in the next game
short fjord
Ff didn’t even tick fully I don’t think
short fjord
Yea we’re done lol
blissful belfry
Did you win
Solo rdruid against rogue priest. Of course i won. I won 2min of their time
Honestly, in 2s, i feel like theres absolutely nothing i can do against rogue
(even when my partner actually joins the game)
i used to push in all the time for stuns and clone. getting wrecked. then i started playing 40 yards away to not let connect. They just mongo rush me down anyway like warriors and they inevitably connect.
And when they connect, my life on a timer and theres just a limit of a few kidney i can survive until i fall over
Like, i line my trinket for the kidney vendetta. But after that i need to survive the kidney mindgames, the kidney + rogue resonator, the kidney + priest resonator
what fucking tools do i have
Hell, i think they can prolly kill me in a naked kidney
if i dont pre-bear it
short fjord
@safe heart did you test any other combos ?
safe heart
i tried circle in 2 of those but idk i just kinda had to eat shit in bear form every time so couldnt really see the dam
short fjord
Circle doesn’t feel like it’s ever going to be good imo
safe heart
was trying to see if empowered tf circle FF was giga
tardy hare
Idk rogues kinda die to feral
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also think its better to trinket their resonator go than just vendetta
Dont even have to trinket for vendetta occasionally
blissful belfry
trinket resonator eh. I dont feel like i can survive 6s kidney with vendetta
i can try next time i guess
tardy hare
I mean you're not alone
Def dont need to trinket vendetta ig u pre bear with skin
Just go bear whenever they start cc chain on ur healer
Definitely kinda changes per game what u trinket though
blissful belfry
i am the healer
daring herald
Rdruids - what talents are you guys running in rbgs this season? And cov?
quick jasper
dont rogue always loss to duide just because druids can heal they cant
safe heart
Not necessarily but yeah that helps
safe heart
i usually sit in bearform forever until i know i can trinket stun them
you basically pve a rogue in bear form with strength
yeah but if you always sit bear outside of that, they struggle
mangle thrash x 3 strength and hes taking non zero damage
while mostly not killing you
shell skiff
Bro you are not even close going to beat a rogue in a 1v1 with sitting bear
Maybe a rogue without a keyboard
hardy vortex
Good rogues always win 1v1’s period
shell skiff
I mean use any defensive you want and any heal you want, either way they just reset and do a 100-0 next kidney
hardy vortex
Unless he really throws lol
shell skiff
Is that the vendetta upgrade or the shiv bleed thing?
hardy vortex
I am really curious to see how that’s gonna play out tho
shell skiff
yeah lmao 4p assa wont even help with tranq 😂
hardy vortex
I have been facing a lot of people with 2p/4p today ngl the damage is nutty
I wonder if they will let it slide for months again
Same with holy priest I have literally never seen anything so blatantly broken and there’s just nothing being done lol
shell skiff
It took weeks for ww monk to see any nerfs so I would be pleasantly supprised if they nerfed it fast
hardy vortex
I doubt it man.
Btw I faced dh with full duelist weapons and 4p today
Talking about needing a nerf lol
hardy vortex
I mean this dude was blasting 10k dps all game I’m not even joking
shell skiff
Yeah I mean thats the power of 2p, the 4p is literally useless imo
No clue if it would be worth throwing away vers for it even
hardy vortex
Idc what is it really it needs a nerf sharpish
shell skiff
4p increases meta duration by 6s (aka 20% longer) and cd is reduced by 1s for every 60 fury spent
hardy vortex
I mean I am all for having classes getting the spotlight and etc every once in a while
shell skiff
2p is just a plain +20% dmg increase
hardy vortex
But why they let shit like this go live is beyond me
shell skiff
tier should just have been disabled in pvp
desert lynx
any1 heal with elvui in arenas?
obtuse bramble
They nerfed verdant infusion. And Swiftment will prioritize the hit from tier set. But that's about it, i think
hardy vortex
You literally have to kill them twice they have ward fade fly guardian a ranged stun/incap fear mindgames and on top of that the best spot healing in the game
hardy vortex
I mean I am not saying resto is bad at all I am having a blast still
obtuse bramble
Yeh. Sti feels nerfed with the current damage profile
hardy vortex
But holy priest is just beyond disgusting rn
quick jasper
assiassantion rogue r fun posion dose good damage but i think duide to rogue higher level 1v1 r different on my rogue duides and healer r the hardest things to beat i can beat a hunter before i can beat a healer and i have fully equment my feral druide to fully test it in pvp
shell skiff
hpri will be nerfed after the rwf
Try putting the cable to the keyboard in if you are struggling with killing rdruids as assa
hardy vortex
I don’t even see how they would do it atm tho
quick jasper
my rogue get beaten by crusade fighters unless they get disarmed xd
hardy vortex
There’s just so much that needs attention
The Rez leggo has to go tho
That shit is nuts
quick jasper
on leather user class ( demon hunter druide rogue and monk which is best for 1v1
hardy vortex
Bro on top of that toolkit you think it’s reasonable to have to kill them twice
How is that even a question
quick jasper
i dunno im newish
shell skiff
"Bro"
I never said the toolkit deserved to have a res
The legendary isnt at fault
Just deal 0 dmg and he will come back at 1hp
hardy vortex
I’d rather they removed that than gimping them by removing ward or fade or just gutting the spec
Yeah “just line it 4head”
hardy vortex
I mean.. yeah sure before he serenity himself back up to 50% in 1 global?
Or just fades
Or comes back with a little more health due to dots already ticking
shell skiff
Well just drink up meanwhile, he wont be able to and wont gain any mana
The res legendary isnt the problem with holy
hardy vortex
It is part of the problem because it exists on top of everything else that’s wrong
As I said
The toolkit is already too big for having a meme legendary like that
I know it’s not 100% and it can be somewhat countered but that’s not the point
shell skiff
I mean whilst you are saying you dont want their toolkit to be changed in any meaningful way because it will be gutted
hardy vortex
I am not saying that
shell skiff
why are you saying something want to be changed in their toolkit in a meaningful way?
hardy vortex
I am saying I hope they find a way to nerf them which is very much needed without gutting them
Or being the key word in that sentence
All I’m saying is removing the Rez Lego from pvp is an easy start without touching the “basic” and very fun to use toolkit
shell skiff
I mean just -5% healing and we gucci
Doesnt gutt em
Doesnt affect their toolkit
Just affects their insane sustain
hardy vortex
I mean I don’t think that will even things out but yeah if only blizzard would spend half as much time as we just did actually thinking about how they will fix it we would be fine
Ward into non purge teams is pretty nutty aswell tho lol and I stand by the fact that the Rez Lego is not meant to be in pvp it’s literally disgusting
shell skiff
Tier sets are not meant to be in pvp aswell
hardy vortex
But to each his own if you don’t mind it then who am I to tell you otherwise
shell skiff
Wish they pulled the plug when everyone said to pull it in the 9.2 ptr
They are fun and changes the gameplay but they sure as hell aint meant for pvp
hardy vortex
I mean it just makes balancing even harder then it already is. I would very much like to return to a pvp scenario without any “borrowed powers” but it doesn’t look like that’s happening anytime soon
And ngl if I was a dh main or assa main I would not be complaining rn xD
safe heart
theyll get rooted into a clone and claim feral op
safe heart
basically its necrolord but its the first day of double legos so run with that , checkback in 3 weeks
rare willow
yeah. ive been playing convoke all afternoon. it feels real good in 2's not so good in 3's
idk if i want to run feral frenzy as nf in 3's though. idk theres still so many things to try
quick jasper
how well do monk do vs druid i havnt play much of both so i have no clue
edgy shale
idk how true it is this patch, but at least in like 9.0 and 9.1 the most annoying classes to duel are prob monk/rogue. monk ain't THAT bad and i usually win, but their mobility is annoying enuf u can't really kite them
so sometimes u just DIE
stray sigil
which one of u fuks good with weakauras
rare willow
hmmm. we may have underestimated Frenzyband + convoke.
during berserk did about 100k free damage max tics from the dot about 8500
thats decent
rare willow
i think its going to be insanely good.
my tooltip reads like almost 40k over 10s with TF and trinket proccd
ive heard mixed things that it does or doesnt benefit from Adaptive Swarm
but even if it doesnt and all you get is 4k dps
thats wildly strong with everything else rolling too
slim wyvern
any idea how to get the lego belt to work in arena for convoke?
rare willow
i think i like Natural Orders Will the most w/ Convoke i just do so much healing with it
48s cd on barkskin
frenzybrand doesnt feel amazing. idk. even when it feels like its doing work it just feels like a "win more" type of thing
quick jasper
what specs do you mean?
any which spec of druid dose best any way i play feral because i like cats xd
tropic canyon
Probably needless min-max'ing on my part, but what slot are we recrafting unity to for resto?
tropic canyon
Not so sure either; more so just looking at stat as another 291 piece in conjunction with the other pieces. I am still bad and learning either way. 😛
drifting shard
is resto still necro wiht double leggo? or NF
tropic canyon
Necro for me - I feel tankier with guardian affinity and have a bit more control with swarm.
drifting shard
Ok ty
hollow wolf
sorry if its been asked a lot, what are yall thinkin of runnin as second leggo for kyrian boomy in 3s
drifting shard
Dreambinder
blissful belfry
yes, dreambinder + unity
short fjord
I queued a bunch of Necro feral and the extra legendary isn’t Insane but it does have some nice benefits, it can hop back on your target and create random pressure and it heals for a lot more.
I played kyrian too and I lost like 4 games in a row and swapped right back
smoky frigate
best slot for resto unity leggo? pants?
hardy vortex
Is the Lego belt locked behind rep aswell btw
Or do I just finish this weeks campaign and get it
I kinda slacked on the dailies etc lol
Insane
Base ilvl 265 for belt aye?
tacit sedge
on what item should i craft unity as a necro feral?
smoky frigate
cause there are 5 main slots and set needs 4, and pants have the worst stats of all 5 pieces?
just saying my logic..dunno if it's the right choice :p
hardy vortex
Imagine having 5 set
I got my first piece in the vault today lol
People running around with fkin 4 set
smoky frigate
lol
hardy vortex
Rng is good for the game btw
hardy vortex
Lol I got tier legs on dh first week never seen a piece since
Never seen a weapon either btw
Seen a lot of belts tho xD
forest kite
Got told I'm shit because my damage is low but I was going round cycloning and setting up cc kills xD
random patrol
would rather have a person cloning and helping to win the game then padding meters
tacit sedge
does anyone know if we should make the unity legendary on a ring ? so we get 2 mastery vers rings as necro feral ?
forest kite
@random patrol Yeah omg feral is a busy job xD, it's just running around fearing, cloning, cloning dps when they use CdS, rooting, off healing , applying thorns , if they go on me, bear form all game trying to survive,
That spell that replaces swipe, are we meant to be using that instead of shred?
On single target
grave pecan
Brutal slash? yes you should be using that
tardy hare
except during berserk, there shred is stronger
silent arch
as balance pvp since I get kindred affinity with my belt, for my second leggo do I want circle of life and death, or timeworn dreambinder?
teal moat
should i be using feral frenzy as nightfae feral aswell ?
silent arch
majority of top players swapped to kyrian, it's apparently the best right now
idk thats why im asking?
obtuse bramble
how do you even do that act?
tiny oar
Queued for 8h today absolutely lost my fucking mind
obtuse bramble
8h, kinda long
forest kite
So we have to buy the memory from the vendor 500 flux, and that will allow us to craft the unity memory on our alts?
And the shitty quest one, scrap that and craft a new legendary 291 belt?
I think it's an auto kick if the guy you invite has not got double legendary? XD
A new player coming into the game, has to get double leggo, tier set, farm the content where the powers are, farm honor and conquest , farm renown,
Just gonna be another dead season of waiting 3 hours for a healer :/
shell skiff
Correct, if you buy the legendary from the vendor you will have it on all alts. The honor farm is the best it has been all of SL, double lego is just doing the campaign, tier sets will be easier in ~8 weeks or so. After all that it will be alot better than previous seasons
obtuse bramble
currently it's just cutting edge raiding that limits pvp
if they uncap conq later on, it's ezpez
livid wasp
Queued for 8h today absolutely lost my fucking mind
haha imagine some streamers do that every day
tiny oar
So insane mate
grand mesa
So how was day 1 of dbl lego meta
tiny oar
Queued into dekel playing fucking mass spell reflect and kyrian leggo
Had to go lay down after that one so I didnt throw my keyboard out the window
lime light
nice
visual sparrow
Is night fae for feral any good compared to necrolord now with double lego and the cc immune trinket?
short fjord
I feel like cc immune trinket is never good because if you fail to kill you’re just going to sit the longest ccs after that
But I plan on trying nf with like draught or sym tonight
viscid remnant
livid wasp
prot pala moonkin warr is so stupid
just guardian at start and then use uncc trinket while moonkin fucks the whole room
7.2k ret pala dps in 3s
nice
tiny oar
nice
tiny oar
just guardian at start and then use uncc trinket while moonkin fucks the whole r...
"Moonkin fucks the whole room" had me dying nice 1 zech
livid wasp
why do shit comps like that exist
tropic schooner
7.2k ret pala dps in 3s
while that dmg could be high im willing to bet a lot that actually wasnt 7.2k
livid wasp
I hate people who play those
tropic schooner
details isnt exactly accurate with dps in arenas
livid wasp
like they just tilt me
for the rest of the session
with that stupid shit
yeah I noticed
austere mesa
i like fun comps like that better than going into RMP and being cced the entire fight
lol
tropic schooner
i like fun comps like that better than going into RMP and being cced the ent...
or jungle
okay to face at times
livid wasp
I rather face a real comp and lose than some stupid shit where I cant do anything and stupid dmg going everywhere
tropic schooner
I rather face a real comp and lose than some stupid shit where I cant do anythin...
you obviously can do stuff otherwise those comps would dominate
which they dont
or they got insanly lucky
austere mesa
they just caught you with ur pants down it happens
main roost
for resto w/ enlightened at revered, is there an optimal slot to put unity on? or is just any off piece slot at this point?
blissful belfry
pvp is going to be hard i swear. with 4pc and double leggo as pve main, my vers tanked to like 28% outside arena, so i guess around 30 with pvp scaling
and i dont wanna buy a new unity with vers on it
safe heart
Yeah I'm scared to lose my vers with the 4pc
gleaming jewel
is it worth going 2 pve set pieces in pvp for the 2 set bonus ? XD
[17:59]
or ?
frosty yarrow
What legendary/covenant are we thinking for balance in 3s
shell skiff
is it worth going 2 pve set pieces in pvp for the 2 set bonus ? XD
[17:59]
or ?
which tier set
Resto? Hell yeah
stray sigil
rogue mage rogue mage rogue mage
gleaming jewel
@shell skiffboomie 😛 , got pve hands 252, and got legs in vault now 😛
twilit siren
how do you deal with constant purges in 2s as resto
think it was spriest resto vs dh rsham
only like 1500 and we're both new to pvp though might not be doing basic stuff right
safe heart
Moar lifebloom
blissful belfry
lifebloom. if its on you, line the priest
warm pebble
Sorry if I missed this info in pinned. But for pvp resto are we still stacking haste? I feel weak
blissful belfry
purge spam still hella cancer and we should have a pvp talent for purge punishing
safe heart
100k pad dmg
tardy hare
Need video to see who we can flame in this game smh
gloomy imp
Who landed more cc?
forest kite
does it show that in details?
forest kite
blissful belfry
most meters dont mean shit in pvp
forest kite
Yeah
true
Dont wanna play with players that cry, complain and blame others. Gets me stressed aswell and i wanna have fun while learning
even if mistakes happen
blissful belfry
im honestly losing faith in the 2s bracket
it has never been that bad since a long time i think
I go in and i see some comp and i know for a fact i'll win no matter how bad i play
and other comp i know i'll lose even if i grow wings
forest kite
@blissful belfrySame mate
forest kite
When i look for a priest, theres not a single priest, but when i finally paly, 6 games in a row we are playing vs a priest xD
warm pebble
I wish I could play my priest but I got 0 tier pieces so everytime I press queue my day is ruined
boreal sequoia
since we got unity
which legendary you guys go with for rbgs and arenas
i was thinking with 4 set bonus timeworn+kyrian would be tons of big damage starsurges
but im not sure about rbgs
tight void
Boomies in 3s, are we still empowering our necrolord partners? Kind of torn on it..
brave venture
anyone having success with feral this patch?
i feel weak as fuk compared to everyone else
stray sigil
considering our leggos suck ass
fair mirage
Feral durability nerfed a bit, heh.
stray sigil
i mean its somewhat the same as last ssn
just everyone got that much more power with 2 leggos
and we didnt get shit cuz they are bad
fair mirage
There's a lot of scary stuff floating around right now.
fair mirage
My ret just 1-banged a guy from 80% health in a global.
stray sigil
hpriest
fair mirage
BRO it's so much fucking damage
stray sigil
he was getting rocked the entire game
fair mirage
I queue into dhdk last week before leggos and it was legit like 6-8k dps for a whole minute
granted it was the best dk but still
blissful belfry
i seen my dh friend dps skyrocket in raid yesterday with double leggo. idk if that will translate in pvp
blissful belfry
dh already been stupid. now we just cry more
jolly void
Dh plays totally different cov and leggo in pve and pvp so no it won’t
jolly void
And in pve they play venthyr
stray sigil
its more dmg than nf
jolly void
Which is where the dmg is
stray sigil
ima take u havent played vs dh much or
stray sigil
ya idk bout that take
fair mirage
I think venth might have potential but rn necro with bw is just super consistent
stray sigil
necro just free dam lol
blissful belfry
kyrian druid + necro dh still very good then?
fair mirage
yer
blissful belfry
i meant boomy
jolly void
ima take u havent played vs dh much or
The guy said his friends dps skyrocketed in raid. It won’t translate the same in pvp because they play a totally different spec
blissful belfry
boomy kyrian + necro dh + healer
jolly void
idk his posts in dh disc are super fried
The only fried take here is someone having a different opinion than you and you thinking they are fried lmao
stray sigil
on an already overtuned class
tight void
I still run kyrian boom/dh/heals
fair mirage
yeah it seems super good
jolly void
ofc it will affect pvp
No shit it will have a more than zero affect
fair mirage
balance is just a little squishier now
stray sigil
ya so whts ur point
fair mirage
unsure as to which healer is best, might be hpriest for now or mw/rdruid
jolly void
the statement was it would translate the same in pvp as in raid
Which it won’t
Because they are totally different specs
blissful belfry
i tried boomy dh healer last weak and i felt like i was just being trucked 24/7, could hardly even press my cd cuz i was in bear all the time
jolly void
Sorry you failed reading in second grade
stray sigil
totally different class 
blissful belfry
4pc really didnt help my vers tho
stray sigil
vers not as big a deal anymore
main roost
out of curiosity what’s your mmr fuji
main roost
yeah sure
stray sigil
no 3s
blissful belfry
yeah, the trinket changed, but the defensive part of vers is unnafected
blissful belfry
it does matter fuji
stray sigil
lol
blissful belfry
There are people giving advice at 1600 mmr
and some at 3.1k
it helps to know the credibility of the source
stray sigil
3.1 pre stupid inflation too let me flex my ego ig
main roost
just wondering, looking at the list you said there are a couple classes that feel fine? demo seems fine
fair mirage
finally getting 3k and it's like top 600
stray sigil
its pretty stupid too
fair mirage
hope this season is a little shorter, glad they decided to do fourth
main roost
oh mb mbt it was teapot
fair mirage
which is every class tbh
stray sigil
not feral
fair mirage
everybody jacked to the tits and 1-hitting each other
stray sigil
when i get tier set
im sending the full convoke angle
but for now im stuck
i made boots 1min convoke and not revered yet
blissful belfry
i've mostly been doing 2s in pvp
i feel like i have more control over everything that happens
but now when i go in 3s, my brain fries
too much
blissful belfry
and god forbid being squishy in 3s
grand mesa
I’ve always found 2s more enjoyable personally. Slower pace
blissful belfry
i found it more enjoyable until last week
2s right now feels like a rock paper scisor game before loading in
''oh, my comp beats their, nice''
grand mesa
Really?
blissful belfry
what do you run in 3s usually
fair mirage
i am too old and slow for this fast meta aaaa
grand mesa
Kinda want to try that necro Boomkin build in 3s. Just got my 4pc so kyrian probably the better play
fair mirage
my ret just snapped a feral in half through his wall
blissful belfry
i,ve found that the best way to deal with ret is to not deal with ret
take a 30 yard pole
and keep it between u
blissful belfry
yes
grand mesa
Almost preferred kyrian
blissful belfry
''i dont like to kite', my friend say. well die then
grand mesa
You knew their dam was done for a bit
fair mirage
necro is evne burstier with its divine storm multistrike thing
or just in general it's so scary
grand mesa
Yeah it’s horrifying
fair mirage
holycowx-tichondirius final verdict's you for 31k, you die
fair mirage
yeah probably regardless of ele cov
just queued into like 3 diff vesper eles, then a bunch of demos and frost mages
i wanted a break from queuing into surv/hpriest 5 games in a row in 2s
lime light
kaffir
edgy shale
lol u cant say tht el patron
lime light
i crushed
leaving my gate
cuz i was on phone
oh well at leas there was a reason
to get drunk
livid wasp
I literally almost wanna stop playing just cause of the stupid trinkets
rare willow
the resolve trinket on warlocks and mages is so tilting.
livid wasp
and eles
rare willow
i havent seen eles use it yet but holy moly i can imagine thats annoying too
my only suggestion is if you are feral, you can use pred swiftness procs to remove it
but its so tilting
imho its a very bad change lol
livid wasp
fucking not fun to play at all
rather have cancer on my ass
than face that every day
and it often shows that hes unkickable which means the trink is active
then I use warstomp to waste it but he gets stunned
whats that
woven hinge
wich legendary is better for NF balance druid? (i already have unity belt)
haughty compass
Feels like pulsar would be good and just constantly PVE.
But if you’re good about using boat well, I’d try that too idk
rare willow
idk. ive noticed that too. the standard UI is really really awful at showing when the trinket is active and when its not. i'm really trying to avoid using Weak Auras to solve all my awareness issues but this feels like one i need to cave in and use a Weak Aura
fair mirage
ah yes ring of repick
haughty compass
Simps gonna simp. But yea dreambinder with tier seems nasty
safe heart
Anyone been playing kyrian feral ?
Busy fucking week can barely play to try it
livid wasp
yeah with this demo lock meta cant see convoke being any good lul
safe heart
Where's my boy @short fjord
woven hinge
wich trinket can i use in arena with fastidious resolve? i can't medallion
twilit siren
under soulbound it'll say "unique-equipped: "
civic ore
NF Resto is fun but my god does the throughput feel bad without Swarm...
amber snow
so, um, 4pc set is kinda ridiculous in bgs
topped damage by a long way ... as guardian
safe heart
i want kyrian to be good so bad
peak marlin
draught, curio or NOW to pair with convoke leggo? have like <4% haste so curio is tempting.
safe heart
id go draught or now personally
will pump your dmg between go's a tad
yeah i mean for feral sorry
i just need to play it and see
peak marlin
id go draught or now personally
yeah, just sucks being so energy starved. plus bleeds are underwhelming when you're not necro. so im just thinking w/e gets me more bites off...just gonna have to play all 3.
safe heart
yeah could easily see playing all 3 covs this season
i just kinda like the kyrian vibe
peak marlin
all 3 leggos i meant. i mostly just 2s so been NF all xpac.
safe heart
ahh yeah
i play 2s mainly just to carry or play with friends
3s are my meat and potatoes
rare willow
draught, curio or NOW to pair with convoke leggo? have like <4% haste so curio i...
I'm really loving NOW with convoke, draught was okay, i have not tried curio yet. personally i think NOW + convoke is my preferred set up for 2's by a long shot.
forest kite
Boomie pvp, is it necro when playing with a caster, and kyrian when playing with a melee?
peak marlin
I'm really loving NOW with convoke, draught was okay, i have not tried curio yet...
what did you craft NOW on?
forest kite
@vestal citrus ty and yeah couldn't decide to play feral or boomie but I'm gonna play boomie since it's easy and fun
But then again jungle is like the best comp right now? And alot of hunters in lfg
stray sigil
But then again jungle is like the best comp right now? And alot of hunters in lf...
jungle is not the best comp rn lol
not even close to it
safe heart
😦
tiny oar
Rmp overlords ascending to new levels of cranked 🙏
lime light
Hello dear chatters
lime light
Very nice
blissful belfry
i swear rogue/hpriest is unwinnable as resto druid
just nothing to be done. its just kidney goes after kidney goes until u cant live. which is usually 2nd or 3rd go.
i hate this fuckin shit meta right now
9.2 shittiest 2s has been ever
fair mirage
Quietly waiting for hpriest to get nuked from orbit in a round of tuning changes.
I just had a game where my little shaman escaped the enemy dps and the hpriest hits him for a 19k holy fire into 8k death
queen copper
best soulbind for a necro/circle build?
think thats bonesmith
hmm apparently never did necro on my main zzz
wait isnt the crit thing the NF guy
steel saffron
Hello, PVP Necro Feral here. Currently I'm playing Necro with Draught of Deep Focus leggo. I'm seeking help for the second legendary choice. I see that necro legendary doesn't have synergy with Draught of Deep Focus, so I was wondering what are my best options? Switch to NF or Kyrian? Go for different Leggo? I'm mainly playing 2v2 with healer for most of the times. Need your help!