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Stratholme is a nice place to be
might seem like a random question, but which food to buy for arena and rbgs?
ty
el patron is a big fan

how are u
same old just very bored tried some 2s yesterday
people are still bad
some people i know were 2.6k xp and now they are 3.4 after last season

was it giga inflated or what
Rank 1 eu was like 3600 flat
cringe lol
can someone watch my stream and tell me what im doing wrong with jungle this season cause I dont get it
damgur dont die oki
dont think just pump
when you see intim stun, maim the kill target and if ur hunter has brain he will do the rest
Is kyrian boomy/feral with necro still worth it
sure, what made those comps work still works
thoughts on kyrian feral in 2s when runnin with spriest? or would necro just be way better
YUPPPP LAMO
can you put those enchantments on legendary bases
can you buy that 262 ring?
yep, its gamer time
oh shit. i neeeeed
im still using the 230 version
is it always haste/mastery is it possible to roll vers/mastery?
all 3 are possible
i got a haste/mastery one. 38k but wow thats a ton of mastery
up to 65% mastery . decent.
do pvp lfgs lack healers like how dungeon lfgs lack tanks?
yea
oh no I want to play feral because I feel so bad trying to heal my guildmates
yea
shuffle just sucks for that reason sometimes
u just get ppl that are an auto lose every time theyre on your team
are we liking the resinator?
im lost
how do u get that speed thing
thats hot
can u buy that on ah
those thing work in pvp ?
wtf
ποΈ
good luck everyone on vaults tomorrow. lets see some tier pieces!
fuck tier piece please christ give me a 278 weapon so i can blast
but gl to all for sure lol
does it make sense to sim for NF/venth separately and have 2 different sets?
wrong channel
kek
is fastidious resolve gonna get nerfed because of convoke memes lmao
ive won like 7 games in a row because of it
people are def so heated over it
idk if blizz cares though
bless blizz for changing trinket bonus dont tell niko but i secretly love mastery
Wtf
what the FUCK lol
if they boosting prolly raking in millis from all the pveers rn
Still, that's quite some hours
Seems a bit excessive
yea ud think they would have r1s on their friends list they could just trade key carries with but
i guess carrying in pvp more time consuming prolly
in what fucking universe does blizz think its ok for a ret to do more healing than a RESTORATION DRUID MAN
dang
queued into a few people gettin dragged up
surprised they aren't able to do it themselves
yea the russian square rets are no joke 
lol ur a madman
i just hit 60
does it take long to get reknown lvl 43?
i wanna upgrade my gear further
naw it doesn't take long just do the campaign quests n stuff and do content
and holy..this convoke cheese is so funny
with fastidious resolve
I need a weak aura for the resolve trinket... so I can skullbash + roar + mighty bash into the convokers.
im jmorphing to the savory deviate delight ninja
anyone got any weapon ideas to match the ninja outfit?
preferably 2her
Wat are the fak where is mesmart??
MIA 
π
is there still a tome for changing talents outside of a rested area in shadowlands?
ty
they're freaking 300g ea wtf
resto feels a bit weaker to me than last patch, sometimes I feel my hots are not doing anything π
anyone running more mastery for druid maybe?
resto
what are the hardest healers to play
ive played rsham and rdru to glad and rdru seems way harder than rsham
would say druid is harder in a bursty meta and rdruid is more proactive than other healers
ur hots should be there before the dmg ideally and also you have limited ways of burst healing
Any new guide that mentions how much mastery etc? go all in mastery? have you tried it?
they just stun/chastise and get a free fear
and even if you get a vortex down before their chastise goes off they still make it to you in time to fear
yh also shaman with the constant purge and if they have a mage feels also annoying
ok got it
What about haste? How much haste is required?
I've been curious about that as well...there are no haste caps so it's mostly whatever you feel like it's enough
but curious what % people usually decided it's enough
yeah I stopped at 680
seems like an OK spot to be at
Is PvP you wing that shit
and if not balance is shit
how necessary is doing torghast?
So is ferals best double legend combo looking to go NF -> Celestial + Natural Will ?
@inner wagon or circle of life and death with necro leggo
Has anyone run the sets to see whatβs actually the most competitive? I canβt find anything online unfortunately not sure if Iβm just looking in the wrong places.
I figure;
Necro + Circle
NF + Will
NF + Draught
Are all looking to be possible contenders but canβt find an answer.
Yea just going to need to experiment man
Dang was hoping someone had some ptr sauce available for it already πͺ guess we will see how this season goes then. Thank you π
I really don't think necro + circle will be good
I feel like it's a ton of pad damage with no kill windows
Ye
Dubt
But idk
Idk feels like necro is a Play
Still
Even with not having a covnenant lego
Yeah I think necro is still the play too
Just wear double lego for stats
Necro is just too strong inside of jungle
Bind with necro surv ?
I guess you're getting 12% damage vs 15% and still getting some amount of mastery on go's so yeah
So not losing all the much by Bluetooth pairing
But on the other hand
Ff swarm tf
Damgur is crazy
Craaaazy
Bite does nothing
I think we gonna see a lot of unh dk cleaves
And some arms as usual
That makes necro even better
Circle could be good. It also buffs the other dots.
But if it isn't, swarm spread + drought could still be awesome. It's + swarm modifier basically forever. And it's a lot of healing as well
how the fuck do you guys manage against restodru/ survival hunter as feral
in most cases you will lose sadly. Usually I try to spread dots and force druid to go oom which means not letting him drink and also ur healer need to try and save mana but its an uphill battle and you will usually lose
thorns helps a little since rdruid cant remove it but really not thatmuch
also I try to not use FF and powered rip only after the feign death which means actually forcing them to do it
Spreading dots is kinda not the play usually
As you will never have enough combo points for this in combination with a surv hunter
hunter will just FD your bleeds away
As well as mending bandage it
there are not many options
so spreading could work but its very hard
I tried many stuff vs stupid hunters
with rdruid its even worse
Spreading is literally the worst option
not its not
Ok
u go hunter he can feign death every 15 sec, or appendage also mobile
Yes
u go rdruid he can run away
^
u play on the long game as rdruid can go oom faster with spread dmg
but its a lost match 95%
You can't play the long game vs them
You just got to murder one of them fast af
Youre most likely playing with a disc or hpriest
and how do you do that
0 chance rdru will oom before that
Do fat damage into one of them
Hope rdru plays feral aff
Free win
which is again not happening in 95% of the cases
never saw a worst matchup as feral vs hunter
They are playing feral aff a lot with surv though
Yes
Its the worst
But spreading bleeds is gonna make your odds of losing 99% instead of 95%
I even took a break for some time because at a certain point it was more like 50% of the games vs hunter
@lime light i thought about it last night is necro feral gonna be a thing after we get to have 2 legos?
i feel like ud just play nf
with draught convoke lego
and ud be better off
than draught dogass necro lego
Occasionally go for rdru cause they play like apes with hunter anyway
Hope u can get cheeky kill
Other than that
I found a better solution: respec rdruid and ride on hunter stupideness
also now on DH
Hope ur partner is nice and lets u /afk
Idk
Feral hpriest is dumb af aswell
All u need is chastice > fear on healer
Then mindgames dps
its good to very good but at least requires some effort
Gg games are over in opener till 2.1
Dont even need more than 100ilvl on priest
Feral hpriest requires atleast as much effort as rdru surv
If anything surv hunters are sweatier tryhards than ferals
@stray sigil iam not so sure
u know how it is
it might look the best
but meta will define
everything
the biggest issue with kyrian and NF is
they have super strong covenant legos
and then what
other legos are dogshit
for them
i think power wise, necro is still the strongest (on avarage)
ofc vs some teams NF
gonna pump
but vs others gonna be so dogshit
if u nf or kyrian
u lose one dot
cuz u obv play around the goes with bites
so u need sbt
ya but u play bt with nf anyways
and then draught lose value
ye but then
if u play bt around NF
why u need draught
u want another lego
but which one
cuz what else would u play
all of the rests are bad
it is the best single target lego
thats the problem (for me) rn
what other lego u wanna play
with covneant lego that is NF and kyrian
freanzy? super nerfed not worth
maybe curio
outside of convoke gos
i could see curio ye
so for ferals should we get the crit / versa weapon or the haste / versa weapon?
if ur kyrian/nf
same shit pretty much
= )
idk
i was thinking
about freanzyband
no joke
but that was before 4pc nerf
sephuz <
the issue with sephuz is
u still get that 80 stats
that u were getting in s1
idk either
what do u think then @stray sigil
idk
sephuz
awk
cuz if u clone or dispell or root pre convoke go
u dont get stats
orc sephuz for some healer specs
will be meta
remember there is also the new pvp trinket
that lets u skip few cc's
idk
i think otherwise
its dogshit for kyrian and nf
does nothing
u play around goes
even TF lego better
for few extra cps
yes
was ass in s1
but draught does nothing
ass now
if u play around kyrian and nF
kinda makes u
bro
its not gonna do any damgur without swarm and moonfire
its still the go to lego
in pve
for single
and they dont play moonfire
its not a big deal
cuz ranged generator
about patch
ye he deleted
but he banned
only 6 months tho i thought rmt boosting was perma
so maybe he wintraded or smth
ye
listen all im sayijg
he can just make an another acc pretty sure but he wont be allowed in awc for now ye
u made necro build, feral became too good, tony was boosting cuz it was too easy, now hes banned
gg fuji
lmao did he get banned
I mentioned draught convoke here 2 months ago
ure a genius
ure a god since u thought of the same genius idea
lol


now, u gonna accept it as always
is it true frenzied heals for like 3k in bear now
i had 5k heals
bear player
its still decent
ye idk i havent faced
any good team yet
so hard to say
and i played fury kitty with mw
like 20 games
feral will prevail against all odds
legendairy
actually
its so insane
how can u lose
as rogue mage in this game
there is a new ring from ah
idk how good or cosmetic the proc is
i want
i forgot to check the data after arenas
500k but there was only one at the time
theres not even a 262 ring lol
come play eu
anyone disconnecting like crazy?
checking the ring for ya
on tich - after every 30s π
same
all the progenitor things are weak but ... might as well have something over nothing
like probably 2-3mins
lol
the main stat can be good, if its around 1.5rpm
L
equates to <10 main stat averaged and you have to go pick it up ... good might be an overstatement π
curious about this one in pvp ... https://www.wowhead.com/item=187836/erratic-genesis-matrix uncapped so if you're getting trained could be hundeds of dps
@lime light
@lime light
Are boomies going for vers/haste staff or mh/oh?
costs like 10k to level jc
i leveled to make rings for myself and now have another 800k in the past 2 days
blessed server has nobody else selling speed thinger
whats the max ilvl i can upgrade my tier?
275 if i am 2400?
or does tier go to 278
anyone know?
Maybe he forgor ?
is eby one of you guys?
No its me
why is ele lock and spriest warr so cancer
imposter
sum1 remind me what rank u can upgrade ur xcondis?
Sussy
what are you taking in the chest as a pvp player?
ppl still play this game?
tier piece?
did i Get @'d then the msg was deleted? lol
full tier for pvp but it'll take long
I guess I'm destined for kyrian because i got 3x crit vers in the vault, no tier
what second legendary would we use for pvp as feral?
arena - yes
cov - for both NF and necro
comp - feral/disc (or holy)
i think necro would run unity + draught though
Yeah
The non troll answer is that we don't really know yet
But
Ppl have been saying necro with draught , nf with CS and draught and kyrian with sym
Is like the super rough guess version
oh interesting...sym with kyrian huh?
Circle might be okay too
Hey everyone, has someone found the conquest gear for Druid? I canβt seem to find the appearance from the vendor just monk and rogue
its so bad
Clean fresh crisp
idk looks cute to me
badge all of a sudden taking me out of stealth?
Didn't on-use trinkets always take you out of stealth? (I might be wrong lol.)
I swear I have used a feral frenzy badge macro for the last 3 months
and it necer took me out of stealth
I am not in the game but you could technically macro something like /use [nostealth] 13 or whatever and it would only fire if you were not in stealth. I have something like that I believe it's been a few months since I checked.
@vestal citrus wanna edate ?
Want a eboy
?
Wtf ?
Rude
How many bosses
The guilds killed yet
Or still splits
Lol
Rly ?
Lmao maybe a long race ?
doesn't help boomkin one of worst dps before set
have u ever seen a more scuffed week1 box
gamer
Balance Druid Question: Is there a resource somewhere where I can read for a more in depth understanding of when and why to run certain covs with different comps?
Context: Iβve been playing around with a few different leggos and covenants all with varying degrees of success. Been having fun with timeworn NF but just curious when I should say swap that for my kindred aff kyr set. What do I look at to know whatβs most beneficial?
If Iβm running with a WW Iβd think that adding burst through NF on his BDB/SEF would help secure kills but maybe itβs more beneficial to get +6 to us both and sauce him up on SEF. Are all necros partners worth running Kindred with?
pvp tier confirmed increased ilvl 
crit mastery on pvp gear tho D: I got legs with the same secondaries
eyeah these vaults man i swear
Yea I got legs on my druid too
7 tier boss killed, 1 vault opend. 0 pc in bags
Crit obvi not ideal but 2pc so huge for rdruid so, happy I got 1 piece at least
I pvp as feral ;_;
rdruid feels very nice right now in 2s
feel like im rollin in the hood like a bully
ayy pretty happy with that one
Fat loot
Gz thatβs huge
Pog
What slot should i put verdant on as resto druid?
what do you think about resto druid pvp with tier set on? it has a 0.5 multiplier on the 2-set bonus.
Do we stack more mastery this season? Feels like hots do nothing
β€οΈ Glyph
I had planned to save up for weapon but now I have no clue what to buy, thinking of getting mast neck and mast ring this week
is versa still most important
I'd say outside of tierpieces yes
im at 1,357 thinking its too much
2p with a bit of mastery would be nice af
weapon in first chest π
so now you can feel good about your jungle again, gratz
Not allowed to complain for 3 weeks now
3 weeks cause everyone will have sets and 2 legendaries in 3 weeks and itll be a shitshow?
Yep cant wait
I would not expect people to have set in 3 weeks
its 5 weeks til the creation thing comes
And that will give 1 set piece per week at first
Hey guys! What trinket are you picking up this week for a resto druid ?
Ye i will have tier set in a year
If I only play convoke feral - is crit more important than mast? Iβve been copying stat weights from the top 50 leaderboard but forgot that 49 of them are necro.
No, 3 weeks cause thats when u can buy weapon first time
So people will do equal dmg to you
No, mastery is still best
what about haste vs crit on pieces where mast is not available? I was gearing crit at first but started shifting towards haste last season
Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
Whatever u luck on most in vault
Probably crit
Wouldn't think too much of it
i started getting haste last season when i realized i couldnt roar > clone with no haste lol
Like 5-6% haste is enough for that
wait so u have a chance to roll non tier set gloves and tier set gloves???
what the fuck
am i missing something
does that piece have the tier piece's secondaries or the PVP secondaries?
i dont get how the set thing work
i got gloves in vault
but not set
mw set looks sobad lol
so i got fucked?
has a chance to be set
????????
yeah
have a chance to be set
?????????????????
what
i got head on one char and gloves on another and chest on another, none tier. lol
lmao
how
nice
so it is worth keeping
fuck u blizzard
they will introduce a thing in a couple weeks. lets you convert any item into tier.
couple weeks
idk about any**
β¦β¦
sick
or something
until then pve or pray to the rng gods lol
idk
its worse than s2
i dont pve
hahahahahaha
didnt need to be a genius to figure this ssn would be a shitshow
enabling tier in pvp is kind of a joke
πΉ βΈοΈ
ye, but its still more dmg
it does dam
and its a bleed
so its worth more
in pvp than in pve
swarm work on it
or is it like
frenzyband
and it doesnt
bro
this tier set shit
means i gotta recraft legos too
??????
β¦
Yeah I expect to recraft a few times so fun
i dont have gold anymore spent it all before i quit
what wq
the ones in a new zone
r they good
what do u mean by good
u need rep
and its a rep
nothing else
3 chests to open
wrist
shoulders
chest
very cool
so y do it
not a single set ofc
true, had a pve DH go into shuffle last night with 2 piece and it was the worst

dh in shuffle feels like a bit too much work
you just get to spend the whole first minute in meta
and cranking like 6k dps, or up to 8-9k if people stack
somebody just ambiently dies
@austere mesa I faced one in twos the other night and he just steam rolled us
Just get the tier drops fuji smh its 50/50 either u get it or u dont
Feji*
MonkaW
50/50 tier sets
zzz
anyone got a wa
for this stupid fucking trinket
that gives stun immunity
as a pvp guardian, do i want vers on every piece?
nvm it's the first line in the pinned messages lol
CW+VI feels so bad rn
agreed. In general CW does not feel like it does anything anymore.
not being able to hold it longer is just the cherry on top
Is the balance druid 2 and 4 piece worth using over pvp gear?
Yes, no question, yes
Thanks!
it shouldnt be a duration equal to the cooldown
or have the cooldown start after its spent, not on application
yeah
basically would have to cc priest 4 times every minute just to actually land 1 cc
against hpriest teams im scared to use disorienting roar for anything else but the ward
so i got tier helm yesterday in the vault. and the tool tip for the berserk bleed read like 35k over 10 seconds with TF / Fleshcraft and trinket proccd
thats decent
- adaptive swarm on it too
thats going to be really nice tbh.
would it be better for me to swap my draught lego to neck if i craft the 291? since one of the tier pieces that actually has vers is on chest if i remember correctly
or is it not worth planning around tier like that
I also don't fully understand how the tier set looting in the vault works so correct me if I am just wrong about this
I thought swarm didn't buff the tier set bleed
does it not? i guess i dont know i was just assuming it would
still it seems like pretty good value for off the gcd
it wont be as strong as a 2nd feral frenzy but itll be stronger than having a 2nd rip on the target
Lmao
How can u complain about holy ward
U can legit roar it on cd
Its so wasted
The spell obv is good
But u can legit take it off for free
Guys, how's feral/rogue in 2's ? is it a fun/viable comp ?
I have a rogue friend, but wonder if I better use my feral druid or my ret pala to team up with him
i personally hate playing feral rogue because i feel like everything i do fucks up what the rogue wants to do
Ret rogue also works in 2s
Ye
u have done convoke with the new trinket?
dang, I really suck at pvp...
Fire mage: won 1/5 RBG, haven't done any 2s or 3s
Marksman Hunter: lost all 4 games in 2s, lost both games in 3s and won 4/7 RBGs
Balance Druid: won 15 of 43 2s, 0 of 5 3s and 1 of 7 RBGs
No clue how to improve. just literally gearing them and getting similar results, druid is 260 hunter 258 and mage 255
What are pvp stats for resto druid please? π
Versa/haste still?
With mastery if I have to choose between mastery and crit
With the trinket set change most rdruids are swapping out a bit of vers for mastery for more healing throughput. Think I'm at something like 20% haste 13% mastery 29% vers or so, feels really solid.
Are you guys sticking to kyrian+covenant lege even with 2set as balance? as the set synergies so well with pulsar
kay
@tiny oarthank u. May I also ask on which item should I put swiftmend legendary? Asking because of tier sets
Record gameplay so we can roast u into getting better

Either shoulders or hands depending on what tier slots you get. But we can make tier ourselves eventually so fine either way probably if you already have it made.
Thank you very much
Losing the will on Feral in 3v3. Any go to guide for Boomy and what comps? DH/Boomy still viable?
Kyrian or NF?
Fair point π
All the FOTM ferals are going balance π
Ye that's fine long as we get another mastery stack at 100p uptime juice shit
I prolly swap to clearcast condy when I get 2pc, floral ain't doing shit consuming that lol
Yea should be real nice, tree every 3 mends is super chill too. Lines up with warbreakers/ doomwinds etc pretty nicely
@stray sigil dont think so
There is nothing that lets u mnie nie shot
In kyrian
Not enough mods
No LEGO that can make it big bong
Iβm playing convoke no matter what. I hate the kyrian hall
So should I dedust my feral to play 2s with a friend
Ret lifestyle is tilting me atm
Oh thatβs a good idea. I got 2pc last night so was messing around in arena. I actually think itβs quite nice
Gz on 2p!
Thanks was a good raid night. Actually at 3pc so maybe next week vault will be a good one π
running night fae feral in pvp
do i go for cosmic echo resolve
or cosmic fastidous relove
Hell yea buddy gz
I kinda hype for 4p tree might be pog af
How do you guys do dps als resto? Do you do half rips and do you press sunfire?
Sunfire is a big nono imo since it drains a fuck ton of* mana and mana is in a rough spot rn
oke
You can do rip but you kinda always want to have combopoints for a stun+clone
are there many scenarios where you play with HOTW in 2v2?
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Im not so experienced (2150) but I would not pick HOTW like ever
Massroot vs ww and mayb hunter* but otherwise bash+clone = β€οΈ
any thoughts on echoing resolve?
Same question but for Draught? π
Idk about that, I have also been thinking of going draught instead of VI
Im having issues with VI rn
What kind of issues?
I play draught for any double dps where sustained heals from VI aren't necessary RM etc
It just feels really bad compared to s2
Going from a 3s double extend on CW to a 1s feels iffy af since gcd is ~1.22-1.25 and you really want to double extend it
Defo no shot
Lakerz what 2nd trinket do you run with?
Yea it's kinda rough but perma uptime on CW with all our mastery and 4pc now would be a bit ridiculous probably lol
100% its a deserved change but my monke brain needs to start thinking about shit π
I play insignia into p much everything, emblem if I'm afraid of certain comps but that's with feral aff every game.
Cheers!
was thinking maybe can make a incarnbuild with frenzyband and 4 tier set
could be pumper
@stray sigil I tried this pre 4 set nerf on ptr and it felt pretty good
But with nerf IDK
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actually godlike
but thats nothing new

how long till we can play 2 legos?
@tardy hare Is German hard to learn?
I dont think he is german...
Correct
Depends on who is trying to learn
Am dutch so German is kinda easy for me
ah ye my bad
Dutch is hell to learn
u are dutch king
German too I'd reckon
i wanna learn german man
What u need to learn German for
i heard a lot of words are similar to english ones
Hmmm some
Quite untrue i think
i want to improve in every single aspect of life
But not many
Just go all out and learn chinese
Like computer
But everyone can speak English as well anyway
π
rly
And kut
kaput
Thats german
iam not sure what were we talking about
That was for the fuhrer
okey
thanks for your services
but try doing better pictures next time
super blurry
Boys
I dont know where i am, use geoguesser to come save me
Have you ever seen the teletubbies
Then youve seen it all
Idk I dont read lore
Iforgor
I just hit the join battle button on arena and go next π
is feral or balance doing better this patch? or too early to say
It's a self care day love urself el patron π π π
U no shave my legs do my nails feel pretty π
monkaW
life sucks man
when i was studying i was poor but happy young boi
now i have money but there is nothing fun or no reason to be happy anymore

idk how people routinely shave their legs it's so hard and time consuming especially the knees
if u beta male u shave
Yea I dont do it often every month or so
i could show u, whats the real mans leg
Oh tian ur a real gem
used to for swimming, got to be a pain though
I know the feeling tho that's rough buddy, it can get better tho π
i dubt it can
the only thing that matter for me is to improve
in every single aspect of life
thats the only thing that matters
Cheers I'll drink 2 that
I am so sigma male I'm turning female π
i cant end my day
before i drink a bit of whiskey
i know, but u are the best
u do u
Lakerz
why does alcohol taste like burning
are u a kid
Good advice tho lol
