pvp

[amber pond]

or NF as well, I guess either or

[untold tapir]

Just swap leggos based on enemy comp dude

No need to pick one

Yeah but ur talking about norm leggo wtf

Use brain man

Smoothlobez

lol

[blissful belfry]

fuckin queued into 3 bdk 3 bear 2heals, sp ww in gilneas rbg

that shit is fucking funny

[viscid remnant]

[viscid vigil]

any r1 balance druid streamers that play arenas exclusively? seems difficult to find them besides rudar

[fair mirage]

My brain can't do boomie in arena, they just feel weird and incomplete.

I feel like there's so few people who consistently play it.

[untold tapir]

Cuz it's boring

Wod balance was the titd

Tits

People playing it now cuz meta slave

It's still fun in rbg but I'd still rather feral in rbg

Or bigbear

Dh leechin the boomie milk from the kyrian tittie

Praying to the zugzug gods

Mo'craw

[fair mirage]

Yeah, I appreciate the ways its damage works in a bg setting.

feels like it was built to whizzle on people in bgs

https://tenor.com/view/moonkin-dance-starfall-dancing-moonkin-gif-20256106

[random patrol]

key to boomy in rbgs is just to pad numbers with circle and stellar drift, and clones

occasional surges into a healer

pretty much what most do though

stack 3 boomies doing that then rotate their convokes if your nf

[fair mirage]

Brain make happy chemical when big number.

Even if surging the sharpened guy is the play.

[random patrol]

key is the rando pug warrior knowing how to push sharpen

[fair mirage]

I ask a warrior why he had sharpen active as we're riding to the first fight and he says "safety always off"

[tiny oar]

LMAO I fuck with it

[tardy hare]

Rofl

That's good

[spice vine]

Hi, how is rdruid in 3v3? is it as good as 2v2 or because of the extra player it can go oom fast?

[jolly nebula]

are there any balance / resto druid arena streamers you can recommend?

thank you. i will check tehm out

[tiny oar]

Supa if ur despie Lmao

[viscid remnant]

💀

[deep tangle]

Any of you bear tank running flag as a kyrian

[haughty compass]

Lol supa 🤣

Good afternoon good morning and good evening

[tiny oar]

Sup pykan

Living ur best boomie life? Respect

[haughty compass]

Unsubbed atm

[prisma bramble]

never pvpd before, best tips as resto? in doing ok tho i think, hit 1900 in 4days..

[fair mirage]

don't int to force cc it usually doesn't work out

[cerulean condor]

is there any addon to have the unitframes on the same position on every character?

[livid swan]

what covenant will balance likely play for 3s next patch?

is the kyrian nerf enough to make boomy/dh bad?

[fair mirage]

dh/boom should still probably be fine.

[quick nebula]

With the direct nerfs and changes to versatility PvP set bonus, I think it will be significantly worse

[fair mirage]

Just not unga bunga strength courtesy of a legendary

Depends on how pacing goes because combat is slowing down initially, which means it's harder for dh and rsham to randomly die like they do now

[waxen flame]

hello boys/girls

best convenant for resto pvp?

(arenas mostly 3s)

[fair mirage]

necro, kyrian experimental but it's getting gutted in 2-3 weeks

[waxen flame]

thx alot appreciate

soulbind we go by emeni for resilient stitching or is there anything better

basicly nvm,marileth's ultimate form is kinda obvious

[fair mirage]

mari is usually the pick on everything

flesh cc immunity, little absorb, passive mastery, etc

[lavish wigeon]

anyone in the 1650-1700 area wanna team up and do double feral?

[trail tusk]

hello, 313 resil warr lf good Rdruid to push 1800+

[tropic schooner]

thats an even worse lfg then normal

[livid swan]

This new fastidious resolve trinket is ridiculous, why would they add this?

Imagine a rmp opener with all 3 of them using this. How could you peel it lol

[tardy hare]

Well

Press defensives

Cause they'll instantly die the moment it runs out

Using your only trinket escape offensively has been evaded for years now

[copper acorn]

what should I buy with conquest after getting the weapon?

[floral ginkgo]

IMO replace the pieces you have w/o vers first. Trinkets last (just ensure you have two set blues at a minimum)

[fair mirage]

if all current gear is similar then biggest pieces generally most value

if gear isn't then grab the biggest upgrade both in ilev and preferred stats

[elfin thicket]

Feral is guna be nutty next season I bet

[fair mirage]

yeah the 2 cc immunity thing for 15s looks questionable

curious about the one that makes ccs on you bigger then immunes subsequent ones tho

although owo 8 second kidneys

[fair mirage]

Yep.

Unsure if it's intended to be acc-wide.

Regardless I'm buying them all on every char day one of the patch just in case they're like "whoops only chars with the elite achievement are meant to be able to buy".

[lusty totem]

Hey, I think I do something wrong against DH necrolord. Any advice to counter that throwing glaives thing ? He did like 1M3 damage when I did 500k ^^"

[tropic schooner]

throw glaive doesnt actually do dmg

[lusty totem]

sure ? xD

[tropic schooner]

yes

look at the targets

of throw glaive

[lusty totem]

I think its the demon buff when he kill them

[tropic schooner]

the dmg is on the demon

yes

[lusty totem]

Ok that's look ok then :p

[tropic schooner]

like dh still does high dmg

[lusty totem]

Still having hard time anyway

[stark plover]

for the new tier sets, can you have the guardian tier set and be feral spec? wondering if some weird combos might be possible, for fun

[fair mirage]

I imagine that they have one tier set, and the bonuses swap based on active spec.

[stark plover]

that makes sense i guess

[stark plover]

havne't had a tier set in a decade or so, bit out of touch 😄

[desert anchor]

Hey guys whats the 2nd best covenant for boomie after kyrian ? and with what legendary ? thanks alot in advance

Nf with what lego ? i saw some top boomies running Balance of all things as fae or do i need specifically the convoke one if im going fae?

[haughty compass]

I personally like the 1min convoke. Root beam, while healer stuns. 2s

3s kinda depends on other team

[desert anchor]

So fae is stricly bound to the Convoke lego if i decide to go fae? i mean as viability

[haughty compass]

You can do boat too.

Just make sure you set up convoke well and hope they aren’t a demo lock

[desert anchor]

Boat ?ah u mean balance of all things got it

Do the stats change from one lego to another or i mainly go haste on both ?

[haughty compass]

Haste the safe bet.

Although kinda want to try boat convoke + disc for dark arc and a night fae pally for some blessing of summer convoke cheese

And go full mastery

1min boat convoke is what I’m running. I just don’t like kyrian or Venthyr.

I’d try Necro swarm + circle too, ez damp

[desert anchor]

Thats when 9.2 comes u reffering to the 2 legos right?

Cuz right now necro is the least viable out of all 4 covenants for boomie right?

Got it ! btw Kyrian works well with necro as partner due to the versa right? and maybe fae for haste ?

ok so going fae with convoke lego im still maining versa / haste as main stats ?

alrighty , no release date yet for 9.2 right?

[fair mirage]

versa still good stat for everything i think because of defensive aspect just maybe not stacked in every slot heh

[desert anchor]

OK thanks alot guys

[fair mirage]

Yeah, seems like we'll get 2 week today or tomorrow. Maybe next week.

These patches feel so long.

[desert anchor]

so from tomorrow 2 weeks till 9.2 ?

[rare willow]

was that announced somewhere?

[surreal heron]

no, and 2 week isn't even guaranteed

[rare willow]

lol thats wild. i got super pumped thought something was announced

[desert anchor]

Btw if it's not too much to ask : what's the setup ,while bursting with convoke when coming out of stealth? Is there a macro to insta enter owl + on use trinket and convoke ? Or do you need to also add celestial alignment to the rotation first ?

Thanks alot !

Is it better to go incarn or celestial? I mean do u keep starlord or opt for incarn

Roger

So i assume then im also chosing moonkin aura as pvp talent

[fair mirage]

ya the crit is just so much value for whole team

[stoic cove]

Do we have any idea what covenant for feral yet? Haven’t found any solid set in stone ideas at this point. Toss up between kyrian or nf?

[fair mirage]

Might be necro with circles, could be nf, kyrian could also still be solid

the uptick in kyrain druids only happened super late into this season

so hard to speculate about what'll happen in the future

[austere mesa]

Is kyrian still the play atm for boomie 2s? Also lego? Just came back

[fair mirage]

Honestly the social aspect is probably the worst bit.

Curious to see how they do, though.

A lot of people lack the structure.

oh the mage is 2400 already huh

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Azjol-Nerub/Lestrangé

[tiny oar]

road to glad ✅ RMP ✅ gg ez ur done

[fair mirage]

I know whenever I pugged alts up in 2s and ended up having to grab a newbie healer I'd be like hey you go for cc and I'll cc the dps so they can't stop you, or hey just you use cc on target and I'll cc other guy

and every game is a win and it blows their mind

or hey when u see big cd just use barrier don't think just barrier, or ps

yeah the script is everything

idk post legion glad in general kind of iffy

especially in 10 month seasons lmao

[tiny oar]

yep

sunshine a scaper too

legendary

[wise valley]

I’m nearly maxed bro

Con/smithing/herblorr all banked

[tiny oar]

fucking epic

my main only like 2080 or sumthing but im group ironing rn its p cchill

[signal cape]

Iron sounds so fun, cba to do all the quests again

[tiny oar]

yea quest cape for 3rd time is pretty zz but cool other than that

[desert anchor]

Is Primordial arcanic pulsar any good for fae Boomie?

And btw why are all Fae boomies that are using BOAT going full mastery and minimum haste?

[desert anchor]

im looking on checkpvp and all fae boomies that got BOAT lego are using full mastery i mean vers/mast

was wandering

@ u were reffering to Arcanic Pulsar question? was asking for 2s or 3s

[desert anchor]

Got it ! thanks alot for the detailed info !

[shell skiff]

tbh though agility is alot worse than rc 👀

[deep tangle]

I’ve asked before any Druid tanks in here for flag carrying I got a few questions

[viscid remnant]

ask the question dont ask if you can ask

[timid garnet]

How do u druids dodge poly/hex? I find myself getting stuck in global and unable to shift. Any trick I’m missing?

[viscid remnant]

be mindful of your position

if you have to be out of form outrange/line the mage/shaman

[wise valley]

Runecrafting is what makes you a man

A degenerate idiot moron pizza god of a man

[tiny oar]

Factual

[deep tangle]

Do any of the tanks here run kyrian

[pearl estuary]

what soulbind is good for necrolord Rdruid in arenas?

[stone breach]

Marileth because ultimate form

[pearl estuary]

thats what ive been using

[maiden tangle]

Is there an add-on that can tell you when you should start casting cyclone based on how long cyclone has left on your target?

or a weak aura?

Also, does haste not decrease the GCD for cyclone?

or cast time

[safe heart]

yeah like push the button when you see the 2 second mark and brain lag will probably compensate, thats how i do it

[fair mirage]

just clone people a lot

and eventually become better at it

[shell skiff]

https://wago.io/OgifZEjeA

Not guaranteed to work

[maiden tangle]

Thanks

[sleek ravine]

@deep tangle no. In RBG every guardian is pretty much night fae, use niya for the max hp boost on convoke plus soulshape mobility

[fair mirage]

4-piece: Damage done reduced by 65%.
SHAMBLES

won't be doing 300% of a guys health in the opener as necro i guess

[tiny oar]

Ya I mean we knew that one I hope

[tiny wigeon]

Is Vers - Mastery - Crit - Haste the right stat prio for feral night fae?

[tiny oar]

yep

[short fjord]

@fair mirage was 4p super broken on ptr?

[fair mirage]

ya

[forest kite]

Should i get convoke legendary or that swiftmend legendary for rbg?

[spice spruce]

Swiftmend

[serene wave]

fooling around on my feral atm. what covenant looks good for 9.2? might as well level that one first

[viscid remnant]

🔮

[serene wave]

[obtuse bramble]

Necro or NF are the first that come to mind ¯_(ツ)_/¯

dunno what will be better, I'll be starting off with Necro.

[safe heart]

necro will be dead once we get to the point of 9.2 where double legos are a thing

youll likely be playing kyrian or nf at that point
the necro cov lego is useless

[obtuse bramble]

Does the uselessness of the cov leggo overshadow the usefulness of Necro though?

[safe heart]

we dont know yet

itll depend more on how strong the other covs are with double legos

[spice vine]

no but it feels bad playing with one leg where other op specs have sick two legendaries

[haughty compass]

Bark skin + convoke leggo might be sick

Feral will be solid in the solo shuffle with that I bet

[safe heart]

yeah thats the combo i was kinda thinking of

[hybrid sluice]

When you run SotF and Overgrowth as rdruid, which heal consumes your SotF proc?

[safe heart]

regrowth

i believe

[tiny oar]

It prios regrowth if it's on target unforchi yea

[hybrid sluice]

Tragedy, Ty ❤️

[brave hedge]

Is Resto solid in arena/RBGs atm? Haven’t played in about a year

[blissful belfry]

very good arena

very fun arena

u can be super toxic

[blissful belfry]

No, it was changed a while back to prio sotf reju

100% sure of that

it used to prio regrowth

patch 8.2.0

@hybrid sluice

[hybrid sluice]

Ooooo

V nice

Ty

[haughty compass]

Feral is probably the most unique play style in any mmo ever. Still chasing that vanilla / wrath feral high

[amber snow]

i don't play feral ... what makes it so unique? isn't it just a furry rogue?

[fair mirage]

cat to stun and bleed stuff, bear to not die and incap, human to heal/clone/root idk it's neat especially with most of necros damage in dots

feels like it kind of frees u up to support the hunter/priest

[amber snow]

ah see what you mean ... kinda true of all druid specs

[fair mirage]

yeah just being an afk damage bot in cat isn't as interesting

[low crag]

If you play resto Druid / surv hunter in 2s you’re guaranteed at least 2.1k without actually knowing what to do

[brave hedge]

👀

[low crag]

But please know that every single feral player will hate you

[tiny oar]

Dqmn til god bless good shit

[forest kite]

RIP ferals in 9.2

i gave up on my feral in 9.2 lol

they always get gutted so im gonna shelf it and move on to my rogue

[viscid remnant]

Cool

[spice vine]

wont say RIP but it just feels salty knowing we have a shit legendary while other specs enjoy op legendary combos

[serene wave]

how much haste do we want as feral? i see some haste/vers weapons and rings and some who dont

or is haste more of a necro thing

[obtuse bramble]

Nothing to cry for, tbh.

[viscid remnant]

Real

Nf shall be legendary

[forest kite]

thats why they nerf feral. they dont know simple math

[viscid remnant]

R word

[forest kite]

someone needs to round them up all the devs

and shoot them right in the fuck head

[viscid remnant]

Dont cope

Go play ur rogue

[obtuse bramble]

Dude, stop

[viscid remnant]

Play rmp

[obtuse bramble]

Yeh go play RMP

[viscid remnant]

[obtuse bramble]

Jungle not schtrong enough,

[tiny oar]

yea rmp chastise arena3 macro out of stealth instantly gg

[viscid remnant]

Legendary

[tiny oar]

nice fucking comp

go next

[viscid remnant]

Gg nexted

Rmp requires so much skill guys u need so much coordination guys its so hard to play 7

[fair mirage]

idk about that chief

[timid garnet]

should you wait for gates to open to fleshcraft?

[tiny oar]

should be ending flesh a couple seconds after they open

for max shield

[fair mirage]

flesh asap in room to get it up a minute into the game but smaller shield, or flesh on gate open for bigger shield

[timid garnet]

tyty

[desert anchor]

Can necro boomie be played with BOAT ? or whats the difference between Fae BOAT boomie and necro BOAT boomie?

[warped sapphire]

Hi! Just coming back for arena. Is Resto still playing necro 9.2?😀 thanks

[edgy shale]

someone needs to round up all the david and tell them HVAE A GERAT DAY

[obtuse bramble]

yes

[warped sapphire]

Thx good sir

[obtuse bramble]

:) and welcome back

[desert anchor]

@vestal citrus ah got it now..sorry for the ultra dumb question and thanks for the clarification

I see now the sinergy between fae stacking versa/mastery with BOAT ..thanks again

[rustic thorn]

How is the tier set bleed doing in PTR after the nerf? Has anyone played around with it?

[forest kite]

good thing you can't get banned for being afk in bgs lol - the people are ass hurt cause i afk and geared all my chars that way

guess what im a still do it even after deserter and no one can stop me! lol love it

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-wtf-you-just-posted-cringe-bro-you-just-posted-cringe-dies-dies-from-cringe-gif-24694567

[blissful belfry]

[hybrid sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-the-joker-heath-ledger-cool-story-bro-clap-gif-3582211

[haughty compass]

Imagine bragging about not playing a game you pay for

[viscid remnant]

Real

Lmaoooooo

[zinc wadi]

I have a week and a half for 50 wins

[safe heart]

you can do it

once you get a buffer into 2400 its easy

[zinc wadi]

sitting 2400 even rn

[lunar totem]

hope u get it my man

[boreal sequoia]

So how would be the meta for boomie in 9.2 for you guys thoughts?

[amber snow]

more convoking, less being a DH buff bot

[desert anchor]

IS kyrian boomie not viable anymore in 9.2 ? or less viable?

[stone breach]

less viable

if you really like kyrian, you can play it over venthyr or night fae

it's just not the clear winner in raid DPS

[safe heart]

Are you talking about pvp

[desert anchor]

im talking strictly pvp

will kyrian be less viable in pvp in 9.2?

[quick nebula]

yes its getting hard nerfed

so its not becoming more viable

[desert anchor]

so what would be the way to go next patch?

[quick nebula]

nobody knows yet. could still be kyrian

[desert anchor]

could prolly the kyrian lego + Timeworn Dreambinder work very good right?

[quick nebula]

yes that is likely what you would use.

[desert anchor]

well maybe kyr will still be the best option followed by necro but remains to be seen

[amber snow]

Why are a bunch of guardians taking balance affinity vs resto? For moonkin-form convokes to help secure nodes or ... ?

[safe heart]

probably something to do with the increased range maybe?

it should extend ur charge range and such

but idk what else

[amber snow]

+3yds ... i guess it helps a bit ... hrm

Oh, related question - as a guardian does it actually matter what form you're in for convokes? to max dmg.

[stone breach]

yes, the spells you cast are based on the form you're in

[safe heart]

kyrian boomie will prob just empower themselves instead of dhs

[amber snow]

right ... but does moonkin do more dam than feral? or feral more than guardian?

[stone breach]

I don't think there's much chance of that

the versatility stat buff is significant and pairing yourself means you get mastery and your DH gets nothing

[safe heart]

yeah but with the nerf theyll get next to nothing anyway

theyll gain like 6% vers when empowered

im not a boomie player so i dont really know for sure

[amber snow]

currently get 21% vers, will go to 6% ... that's nuked-from-space level nerfing

[stone breach]

that's a good question, I don't know

I'd expect boomy aff + hotw + convoke is quite scary and I think the chance you'd want to run feral affinity for anything would be pretty low

[safe heart]

i think hotw boomvoke is gunna be better that catvoke

[amber snow]

I've been switching to cat form to convoke (with resto aff) ... idk

[stone breach]

how big are the free ferocious bites you're getting?

and the starsurges

[safe heart]

i mean if ur not playing balance aff then catvoke is all you can do

[amber snow]

would have to test it 100x over to get any sort of sensible answer ... just wondering if someone had already done that

[safe heart]

i think as guardian you should just boomer aff convoke

[lime light]

about time ratatas

[safe heart]

PATRON

[stone breach]

🙏

[lime light]

🙏🏿

dont think so kyrian lego shjould be nerfed in pvp after trinket set

is changed

could be

so the feral set

is dog now

berserker bis for shifting novas again

[viscid remnant]

El patron real

!!!!

His return was foretold 🙏

[lime light]

can u explain to me

why we have so many

ratatas here?

ayaya

not good

[safe heart]

raticate only chat enabled

[viscid remnant]

[amber snow]

I made this ... thoughts?

#showicon [spec:1] [spec:3, talent:3/1] Moonkin Form; Flight Form
/use [spec:1, noform:4] [spec:3, talent:3/1, noform:4] Moonkin Form
/cancelform [noform:4] ```
Will make you go moonkin form if that's available, cancel form otherwise ... think maybe it could be improved with [combat] modifiers, for instant cancelforms when wanted(?)

[tardy hare]

ok so u made a macro to press moonkin form

[amber snow]

Idea is to combine cancelform and moonkin form into one button.

[stone breach]

why not just have two separate binds? I don't really understand the goal of combining the two

[amber snow]

fewer binds makes the game easier to play

combining those two specifically to stop scare beast/hibernate

[tough bluff]

Thought on Havoc/Destro/Rdruid in 9.2? Could work? Would a priest be a stronger option for the healer?

[tropic schooner]

if you wanna use it sure

I find it completly unneeded

[tough bluff]

I just have "enter" each form as their own binds and one to cancel all forms, so to stop scare/hibernate you just push your cancel buttons.

I don't like cancel/enter on one button. I'm probably just bad but sometimes I'll hit the enter button when I'm already in form which pulls me out of it if I'm already in it which I hate.

[amber snow]

@tough bluff yeah i've done the same ... when would you want to cancelform vs switching to moonkin tho? only in a stun with scare/hibernate being cast? any other time?

[tough bluff]

Honestly it's mostly because I alternate between all 4 specs and want my keybinds to be the same for all of them. So for my non-balance specs I need a general cancel form if I'm not balance affinity.

[amber snow]

same 🙂 so the idea with that macro is you don't need an extra bind for cancel - either it'll moonkin form OR cancelform depending of what you have available

... guess it should work even when stunned to give desired outcome as you can't change forms when stunned(?)

[amber snow]

OK @safe heart @stone breach I did some convoke testing ... 4x convoke each of bear, balance affinity, feral affinity, feral without affinity. Avg. results were 47k, 124k, 98k, 72k. tl;dr - balance affinity is massively better for convoke dmg, roughly 3x doing it in bear, significantly better than catvoke even with feral affinity.

[safe heart]

yeah i was pretty sure boomvoke would end up being best

[amber snow]

yurp, very clear winner

think i might use it ... longer range is neat, playing KT so ability to haymaker into typhoon would be hilarious for some maps

er, why didn't you then?

i accept your apology

[stone breach]

[desert anchor]

So 22 feb we get 9.2

[tardy hare]

I mean just press the moonkin button again 🙂

Only cancelaura i have is frenzied regen

Y'all have more than that?

[amber snow]

yeah ... because you can use it in a stun & without incurring gcd

[tardy hare]

U can just leave form in stun with normal button tho

[amber snow]

except that I have all the form buttons set to be spammable so I never accidently leave them 😉 /use [noform:1] Bear Form etc.

[tardy hare]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just got the button on the bar

But

Whatever works for you is what you should play with anyway

[amber snow]

i get where you're coming from ... this way there are just less fkups, games easier to play

[tardy hare]

I guess

Got too many buttons already

Don't want another

[amber snow]

same number of buttons if you're playing moonkin/bear with moonkin aff

just better buttons

[tardy hare]

But if u have the only enter form, kinda forced to have a cancel

[amber snow]

right ... sothat's why i wanted a moonkin form & cancel macro on one button

gettit now? 🙂

[tardy hare]

Aye

Dont have cancel for any form

Unforch

All xcept healer

Dont need anything

No point switching it per spec

Imagine using different buttons to shapeshift per spec

Lmao

Anyway, sleepytime bb

[vast depot]

Are you balance druids playing kyrian?

I see the higher rated ones on the ladder are kyrian but a lot of guides point towards necrolord

[amber snow]

go kyrian, get necro dh partner, use kindred, collect rating

you have 11 days to make the most of it then it gets nerfed 🙂

[vast depot]

I’m looking more towards the future I guess lol. Have not done much pvp on my Druid outside of restoration

[fair mirage]

Nope?

Slow meta, splitting swarm, circles and playing to rot people might be okay next patch, possibly? But in s1 I only queued into 1 or 2 trying it and it felt underwhelming, and none in s2.

I swear 99% of necro mooners are just feral or resto players who logged out as balance.

[vast depot]

It's possible that is what I was seeing

but there are guides that say playing necro with a rot comp is the "way to go"

[safe heart]

nah its definitely not

[vast depot]

I personally wasn't sure why that would be good because balance only has the 2 dots anyway

[safe heart]

yeah dont trust that info

[vast depot]

I know Necro is really tanky but boomkin in general is kinda tanky

[safe heart]

like if youre a boomie , you need to just play boomie/dh

nothing else you can play competes with that right now

[vast depot]

yeah that all makes sense

[fair mirage]

i imagine the play next season is just similar to now where u play kyrian with whatever leggo reduces starsurge cost then continue to play around big 1 minute goes with empower on teammate root beam healer and dumping surges into kt

albeit without a passive 11% vers on both of you heh

feels bad to not be in rmp and have aoe damaging stuff that break cc instantly hotfixed

[fair mirage]

yeah pve implications is how stuff gets tweaked

my enhancement shaman is so happy about the mana changes

[tiny oar]

What mana changes

O god was there pvp notes?

[lime light]

Boomkins are not a real druids

Pls dont spam about non druid spec

In my channel

Thanks for your services

Just play feral

Yes

[tiny oar]

We missed you el patron 🙏

[lime light]

Thanks

Me too

So there is this broken fucking comp called RMP and it's really lame and everyone who plays it is actually dogshit at arena. I play Ret Warrior, which is a melee cleave, and it actually takes a bit of skill...

[edgy shale]

EL PATROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

WE LOVE YOU

[surreal heron]

[lime light]

Hello Mister Thyme

Thx for taking care of my discord

Iam here now

[surreal heron]

If you're still living in that fantasy, sure thing bud.

[tiny oar]

[blissful belfry]

Do yall ever run ursine vigor in pvp, i swear its underrated. U pre bear a kidney, bang 91k hp, big armor for most of the stun

just big slab of titanium meat

[edgy shale]

yea ive used it. i dont really think the conduit u use matters other than the frenzy regen one

[bold edge]

So I’m swapping from feral (rip) to resto for arena in 9.2 what covenant do we run in arenas? I know it’s nf for raid and necro for m+

[tiny oar]

Necro for pvp as well, marileth soulbind

[bold edge]

Ah okay! Thank you 🙂

[tiny oar]

I use it yea, the armor difference is minimal like 2% less physical dmg or sumthing last I checked but yea the hp boost is huge

[prime rapids]

ngl guys I think I'm a lost ark shill now
might come back later but don't count on it
so long, pvp gearing

[jolly nebula]

Why the RIP. We haven't seen the live numbers yet

[forest kite]

Any guide or paste bin for guardian RBG?

[tiny oar]

In the pins :)

[forest kite]

druid gonna be still the best pick in arena

[desert anchor]

on what slot do u craft Timeworn Dreambinder

[quick nebula]

Ring

[desert anchor]

thanks

is it worth crafting now before 9.2? and just upgrade in 9.2?

[forest kite]

upgrade it in 9,2

because dont waste gold now

[desert anchor]

kk ty

[tropic schooner]

I think that's what gadzie meant, but upgrading will end up costing more compared to just crafting at max ilvl

[quick nebula]

i would think the prices are going to sky rocket for legendary pieces when 9.2 comes out, and would prob buy the base items now

@desert anchor

[safe heart]

Won't the ilvl of the gear go up

[desert anchor]

can we buy base items now ?

[quick nebula]

Ya the 262 ones

[stone breach]

this is not how the legendaries work

buying a 262 now does nothing unless you want to make the legendary at 262, you can't upgrade that base piece to the 9.2 ilvls

[quick nebula]

Sounds like you can to me

https://ptr.wowhead.com/news/how-to-upgrade-legendaries-to-rank-7-in-patch-9-2-eternitys-end-325898

[stone breach]

https://ptr.wowhead.com/news/how-to-upgrade-legendaries-to-rank-7-in-patch-9-2-eternitys-end-325898#screenshots:325898:1

this works the same way as the korthite crystals for rank5/6 work

you make a rank 4 base piece but put in a different optional reagent

[quick nebula]

Yeah so u can upgrade from 6 to 7

[stone breach]

????

no

[quick nebula]

Or from 3 to 7

[stone breach]

I'm not sure whether you're trolling at this point so I'm going to stop responding

have fun

[quick nebula]

🤡

I’m not talking about upgrading the base piece, I’m talking about the legendary itself.

The prices for tier 6 and 7 will likely sky rocket when the patch hits, so buying tier 6 now and using it may be the better option.

[jade elbow]

I think the point is if you build it now you pay twice right?

Pay now for 262 base.

Pay later for 291 base or whatever Ilvl it is.

Could just wait and buy one base and save like 50k+ gold depending on slot?

But you could save money buying base now and using the item to upgrade rank 6 base if you are a crafter with pattern?

[sand panther]

Where would one look to get basics on preferred talents/soulbinds/conduits for resto druid 2s and 3s? Looking to dabble as I wait for 9.2, and maybe more than dabble in 9.2

[sand panther]

Pin just has a vod from 9.0.5 and never sure how valid or up to date wowhead and icy are - thanks

[tiny oar]

Checkpvp our boy flop or minpojke

[quick nebula]

murlok.io is a great website for this

https://murlok.io/druid/restoration/3v3

@sand panther

[sand panther]

Thank you

[blissful oyster]

Guys, what do we think will be BIS covenant for boomkin PvP next patch, now Kyrian has been nerfed?

[kindred patrol]

Probably going to depend on comp, Kyrian probably going to still be the best for most things.

[blissful oyster]

I'll be specifically running RBGs

Also what leggo would pair best with the kyrian covenant leggo

[kindred patrol]

Night fae + balance of all things for rbg, maybe necro + circle for maximum padding, Kyrian + Dreambinder are probably going to be the most common setups. Not 100% sure

[potent fjord]

Question...I'm thinking about getting the 262 leggo for Kyrian on my feral but when the new patch comes out and when we can equip double legendaries

The kyrian leggo will be on the waist* so do you think it's worth getting the 262 or should I just stay necro for the time being was testing in ptr

[lime light]

necro

[harsh jasper]

anyone got a link to a good feral PVP discussion for 9.2 ? Curious if I should grind any other cov before 9.2 or just be lazy with Nfae

[fair mirage]

Necro might be the same as it is now, might try circles necro for fls and spread pressure comps, kyrian might still be okay, there's also nf then playing with a fire mage or something. Kind of hard to speculate now.

Yeah, kyrian druid with their cov leggo tearing up the ladder only at the very end of a super long season. Between double leggo, tier, new pvp bonus, etc, and that's before whatever other balancing changes come out it's impossible to really know.

I'm just happy that they relaxed covenant swapping. 🐱

[wise vessel]

eye of symettry or deep focus for feral 2s

[mellow granite]

if necro draught, if fae then celestial spirits

dont think you use eye in any scenario as feral

[safe heart]

id consider it for kyrian

oh not this season no

szn 3

[lime light]

iam bugged

when i enter arena

i always win

send help

[tiny oar]

🙂

[desert anchor]

whats your prefference for kyr boomie in pvp : insignia or badge ?

[lunar totem]

I ran emblem. A lot use insignia though

[misty cobalt]

since Kyrian is getting nerfed next patch

will necro boomy be the best alternative?

u could have the draught of the deep focus

plus locust swarm

would be like an aff lock playstile

[desert anchor]

its legendary is getting nerfed thats it but dreambinder + kyrian lego will still be super op

plus like glyph said u empower yourself and pump lots of surges

Kyrian will prolly be tops with necro contender

[misty cobalt]

im going to try necro on the ptr right now

[haughty compass]

Kyrian was good before the op leggo. It’ll be like season 1 kyrian

[grand mesa]

How would the KA lego even work with lone empowerment? I’m assuming it wouldn’t do anything at all

[lime light]

i mean

dont rly agree about boomkin dots

they do a little something

the problem is

its outhealed by piss hots

but overall they do some damg

[hidden sparrow]

Is ilvl king over stat weight for pvp? I’m still unranked so can’t yet upgrade conquest gear, so I lose 10 ilvls by equipping it, but gain more vers

[sand panther]

Got back into arenas as resto druid yesterday after not playing them since season 1 (on rsham). Somehow taking a year off didn’t magically improve my inability to pay attention to friendly/enemy cooldowns and identify when to trade defensive a or cross cc. Lol. Filing though.

[fair mirage]

it's 150 mastery on just you, then 15% damage amp

ideally want to play with necro for bigly 11% vers on both of you which gets doubled on empower

[stone breach]

ilvl is king generally speaking -- you'd rather be 250 ilvl with 30% vers than 240 ilvl with 32% vers

[rare willow]

there are exceptions the 230 crafted ring you can buy from the AH is ridiculously good and better than duelist ring for alot of specs, necrolord feral included.

[safe heart]

Yeah 9.2 kyrian feral will just empower themselves

You'll do some big dam in go's but your sustain will be bad

But even then like nf kinda gets the same thing + the 1 shot rng

Niya mastery

[obtuse bramble]

For now I'll just stick with necro feral. It's basically the same but with more swarms flying around

+big additional bleed on berserk

[pallid veldt]

Been waffling between potentially dipping back in arena on sub rogue or feral...which has more viable comps these days? Seems sub is mainly RMP and requires high coordination?

I'm leaning Druid for the versatility / efficiency in all aspects of the game

[safe heart]

feral has like 3 or 4 good comps they can play

rogue prob has like 3

[pallid veldt]

cool thx 👍

[civic forum]

What is resto's best covenant gonna be for 2s and 3s in 9.2? Couldn't find any patch discussion in the pins

[upper chasm]

What do u guys think about nf feral next patch i wanna play only 2s with a friend is it worth or is necro/kyrian soooo much better? Any theroycrafts about 2nd legendary next to the convoke one. Thanks!

[sand panther]

Resto druids - when PUG'ing... how do y'all keep tabs on who your partner is attacking? Ran with a demo lock tonight - and often found myself cloning the target he was trying to kill because didn't notice a swap, etc.

[fair mirage]

Look at where they are, where the enemy players are, and who they're targeting, then when they might be swapping around. Also if you can get a "free" clone on something, like a ret who just got a defensive cd, or is in wings, or whatever, then it's usually good or fine and teammates swap.

[bleak vault]

very roughly, how are boomies looking in 2s and 3s on the PTR at the moment? with 4set and dbl legendary

[haughty rose]

"PvP expert"

I love hating on RMP aswell but this is a bad take

[tardy hare]

I mean you just gotta watch out a bit

Its all hella scripted anyway

U do the same thing every game from 0 to glad

[tiny oar]

rmp simpers out. thanks

ur tainting el patrons grove 🙏

[safe heart]

If your team just doesn't Mongo trinket you can mostly run over rmp

Their win condition is you signing a written agreement that you will throw the game

[fair mirage]

i mean it helps but it really doesn't require it especially if it's just glad

[forest kite]

Hi friends, would u say bgs or arena is fastest to farm honour?

I wanna fill vault slots - this is the reason for my question

[tight void]

Rmp in this meta is the lowest skill floor it has been in a while. Every kidney is a win condition through pre-cds and essentially requires a trinket and proper response to counter.

Most can fuck up repeated attempts at cross cc and still demand a trinket for each stun go.

It’s not impossible to beat, but outside of playing jungle you’ll need to play astronomically better than them to score a win.

[split maple]

do we have a good idea what boomkins bis cov will between kyrian and necro for 9.2?

[spice vine]

rmp can fuck up every go and then reset an infinite amount of times and eventually you either make a mistake or you are out of def CD you just die. Nothing skilled about it just memorizing DR and rotating the infinite amount of CCs mages and rogues have. I usually win against it as a feral but it is very very annoying I cant imagine how it is for other classes tbh

[rotund basin]

Was playing jungle last night and ran into dh/boomy which I expected but so a lot of Dh/feral. Is that new?

[wise vessel]

so, I have Elvui and I use Gladius for enemy frames, I want something similar to gladius for my own team, Im trying to find some kind of unit frames that will work for me without having to change raid frames in Elvui as those are my actual raid settings

[grand mesa]

GladiusEX has that for your own party as well if I remember correctly

[amber snow]

This is nonsense

[fair mirage]

not rly

maybe if they were on a shorter timer

[amber snow]

It really is. RM has higher skill floor than any other comp ... because it requires that coordination.

[viscid remnant]

XD XD

XDXDXDXDSXD

RMPCOPE

[amber snow]

Best thing about druid atm is being able to buff a necro partner ... can be feral and still do that so, yeah, it's a thing.

[fair mirage]

rm brain is an actual thing

guys look we can count down from 3

and cross 3 people at once

[amber snow]

Once you get past that floor it's super strong and people qq about how easy it is ... but most players never make it to that floor in the first place ... this is why there are SO MANY lossing record sub rogues ~1600

[fair mirage]

there's so many people of everything below 1600 because that's how rating works

also everybody tries to rp as pika

[sand panther]

Anyone know how to make the buff icons on default raid frames not be so.. big? Watched a VOD of marked and his were smaller.. allowing him to see more of his frame. BigDebuffs doesn't seem to ahve a setting that affects it... (this pic shows mine with 6 buffs up, omnicd on the right, bigdebuffs off to the left)... my 6 buffs are bigger than I'd like.

[amber snow]

if you increase max debuffs don't they go smaller?

also a ton of size sliders under that ...

[sand panther]

I think those sliders and max debuffs all affect debuffs.. not buffs I put on the frame

[amber snow]

oh, um, you sure it's BD that's showing your buffs ?

[sand panther]

Well BD has a setting that increases it to show up to 6 of my buffs, but even with BD turned off entirely my buffs are that big.

[amber snow]

I think that size is a bliz default ... https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/mybiggerbuffs looks like it might enable you to change it

or this thing? https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/enhanced-raid-frames looks kinda like grid configurability

[sand panther]

Thanks, I'll poke around at those

omg - thanks to you, determined I already had bigger buffs installed from... who knows when. Probably what is making them bigger than I want. Sigh.

[amber snow]

Nice, welcome

[reef flint]

Hey!
Im interested in your opinion. In 9.2 which healer would be good for kitty kleave (and which covenant?) We are playing kyrian feral - necro warri now, but will it stay the best after the kyrian nerfs? Which legendaries would be the best for each of us? And overall, what do you think of kitty kleave?
What do you think, do we have hope against 9.2 metas?

[fair mirage]

Thankfully one of them usually jumps the gun. 💀 Holy bringing chastise really just takes it to a whole new level, though, as spacing versus rogue doesn't even do anything because it's chastise one, db>sheep another, stun kill, then they can rotate the stun onto something else if they use.

[fair mirage]

my poor mw got swapped to and killed in 1.2 seconds through a pre wall

[lusty totem]

Any advices against dh in 2v2 as necro feral (with hpriest) ? 100% loose atm at 2k cr 😦

I do, don't seem enough ^^

[safe heart]

Go healer the whole game, root / clone dh forever
I play high winds into it as well, feels like it helps some

[blissful belfry]

I swear with root and clones dh can hardly ever play the game

just gotta make sure you react when they can connect

do yall feral also get instant root with your 5 combo finishes or something? i dont remember, hardly every play cat

[safe heart]

Yes we do
Instant root or regrowth

And yeah when I fight dh I just literally don't let them play at all
Even in 3s

Root clone all day
Root into a clone even

[blissful belfry]

ya, i usually play rdruid in arena even tho im a boomy. I go clone clone root root rake clone clone root root rake

[fair mirage]

Havoc doesn't really have a way of dealing with roots, and their damage works around fel eruption into eye beam windows every 30s, so you want to control them on their demonic (mini meta).

Root him out of kick range, clone/mc

[blissful belfry]

fun fact, root doesnt trigger combat. So if your dps is alright and you dont need to heal him (which usually happens when u are just chain cc'ing the other teams dps) then you can stealth after root and just rake stun

[lusty totem]

Thanks, I'll try high wind and cc more. I think I tunnel too much my kill target

[sand panther]

Do most rdruids run feral affinity in arena - both 2s and 3s? Been doing guardian aff for the incap and such, so far... just started rdruid'ing this past week though.

To re-phrase - since I don't care what "most" do - Is it adivsable to run feral most of the time for an aspiring arena healer? 🙂

I do feel a gimp'd when trying to contribute dmg for a kill as guardian affinity - I'm used to running feral aff in keys, just wondering if I'd regret the lower survivability at this point (1700 rating).

[amber snow]

murlok.io is good to see this sorta thing ... https://murlok.io/druid/restoration/2v2#talents most run guardian

[fair mirage]

Bear aff 2s ew

[edgy wasp]

as resto vs rogue mage what pvp talents do you pick?

tranq I assume + focused growth

but 3rd I am clueless

[blissful belfry]

I run feral aff in 2s and guardian aff in 3s. Usually in 3s, your teamates have the stuns covered anyway and its much more risky to push in as a cat in 3s.

[grand mesa]

Feral aff if you’re good bear aff if you’re not imo. I play guardian personally 😂. You can def get burned by playing cat and misplaying when u go in

[rotund basin]

I’ll usually play feral aff in 2s especially when I know it’s a comp that can’t one shot me

[crystal forge]

Hi I was told that u guys are cool how are u

[crystal forge]

D:

ur mean

@spring ocean they are mean

u lied

[spring ocean]

Yep

[forest kite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk

[sand panther]

I assume our entangling roots are dispellable, right?

[grand mesa]

Yes

[sand panther]

Just making sure it is pretty useless to root melee dps when a healer is on their team

[grand mesa]

Honestly, you’d be surprised

[tiny oar]

We are very cool mhmm welcome

[tiny oar]

I play draught feral aff master shapeshift deep roots tranq with mass root to keep rogue from re'ing. That's some advanced tech if you're not comfortable with living vs rm I'd play like VI bear aff resin deep roots tranq.

Realistically vs any good rogue mage you lose in 3 go's so need a kill before then. Mage is immortal so I just w key gas pedal rogue while my idiot warr sits 20s of cc through my dispells cuz that's how dummy disgusto rm is.

[blissful belfry]

healer has cd on dispell and if they do cast it, they are opened to shackle trinket. Its also a gcd and if they are under pressure, it puts them behind to do it. And you can root out of LoS or timed with a stun on healer

You'd be surprised how long people can stand in roots

[sand panther]

Sounds good! Thanks

[blissful belfry]

pleasure

[sand panther]

Picked up a PUG DH while at 1717 cr... said I was learning, hoping to get to 1800 before 9.2... he was great, gave tips after every match, and we hit 1800. Always refreshing

Thanks - I'm horrible though 🙂 I hyperfocus on crap and don't notice when cooldowns get used, so trinket when it's not really their go, dont' notice roots on my melee partner too often, etc... so much to improve. Makes it fun though.

Honestly from past expereience getting into arenas... the thing I've never gotten good at is that awareness of when the other team is about to or has just popped their big cooldowns, and saving trinket for it and such.

I have a lot of fun rooting and cloning enemy melee though - those DH's must be so frustrated

I've been using High Winds a lot against melee/healer teams... not sure if that's the play, but more frustration on the melee dps didn't seem bad..

I need a huge ugly WA that puts thorns in my face when it's off cooldown - I go whole matches wihtout touching it when I spec it - it's horrrible.

keeper of the grove/focused growth are my two "always" once, as you say- reactive resin my default taht I swap out a lot

I did have one weird match... bdk + frost mage.. disentanglement did like 23 snare removals on my DH while he chased the frost mage.

[deep socket]

any place i can get some feral pvp macros?

[tiny oar]

https://www.wowhead.com/feral-druid-macro-guide

Mostly pve shit but for pvp I'd imagine all you really need is a focus kick/clone/bash/root and a /cancelform for hibs and scare beast. Party 123 decurse/ enemy 123 clone/ thorns for party members if you really want

[boreal hazel]

post nerf is kyrian still play for dh/boomy/sham?

[viscid remnant]

let me ask my crystal ball

🔮

the answer i got was

ligma ball will be the best covenant in 6.9

[lime light]

Iam gonna log

In 2 weeks

Gonna be great

What can stop me

Nothing

[obtuse bramble]

you've been spotted though

[storm basin]

Crazy idea but maybe he asked so that someone that already tested it could answer

[obtuse bramble]

Maybe somebody did a 9.2.0 Tier list prediction YT Video meta study to see what spec/cov combination will be the most anticipated and designed some counterintuitive preliminary anti-meta comps.
Highly likely :P

Stuff will change so much with Tiersets and Double leggos that it will take quite a while until all the combinations are tested and settled.

I mean Boomie/DH just recently popped up, at the end of a half year season

[tropic schooner]

YouTube tier list predictions

That's my trigger word

[tiny oar]

[viscid remnant]

REAL

[lime light]

Hi is ferel

Viable

[tropic schooner]

No

Only fearl

[trail ember]

faerel build good too

[obtuse bramble]

foreal?

[austere mesa]

in 2s and 3s is Night fae far behind kyrian for boomie?

[trail ember]

@austere mesa yes but I hit 1800 last night with very little problem in 2s. Just bait trinkets, cyclone, and let it rip.

[austere mesa]

is what makes it worse the fact that if convoke cant get off?

[trail ember]

Convoke is easy to track and interrupt

But I've won games where i wasn't able to get full casts off

Also convoke loves shooting starsurges into hunter pets and Kevins ooz

I would be kyrian if it didn't get massacred for next patch. Also I love rated BGs and I rarely get my convokes interrupted on those

[austere mesa]

what are you rolling for cov in 9.2 after kyrian nerf?

[trail ember]

Ive only been doing pvp for Bgs and arena for easy rival transmogs. I will stay NF for Bgs and run balance of all things and convoke leggo probably

But this is my first real patch playing WoW since I was a LFR andy back in legion. I just started playing boomie in pvp a week ago so there are definitely better people to ask. I mainly do raid and M+ on other characters I just thought Boomie sounded fun in pvp so I manifested

[austere mesa]

haha i only picked up boomie this week

[celest epoch]

What is everyones thoughts on necroferal for 9.2?

[forest kite]

its still going to be very strong, the cov leggo doesnt really do a whole lot minus allow you to have more sustain or dual pressure some

[celest epoch]

is shackles still a thing in 9.2?

if not i doubt necroferal will be good compared to other classes

[forest kite]

yes and no, theres a new maledict but from what ive heard its not as good. and it will still be good just not have that button

ive won many games forgetting to even press shackles at all

[celest epoch]

shackles as necroferal was my favourite thing. especially since swarm increased the dmg :/

was doing close to 10k shackle crits

[trail ember]

I would rage so hard if I saw 3 ticks of 10k shackles in my recap

[celest epoch]

TF,FF,swarm,maim,shackle = death if no trinket

[forest kite]

or just get dispelled and healed by healer lol

[celest epoch]

i wont use it if healer is not in cc tho lol

[safe heart]

I'd be happy for necro feral to stay strong
I like the way it plays , and I appreciate the tankiness
Would be cool if the split swarms would stack effects if they were on the same target or something

[obtuse bramble]

their stacks add up

so they gain bounces :)

with a bit of luck the whole arena should be seething with swarms

[safe heart]

No I mean like

Added % per stack

So instead of swarm boosting by 35 it's 40 etc

I don't think the spread pressure thing is realistic

[obtuse bramble]

I know what you wish for, but how it behaves now is pretty snowballing as well

[safe heart]

Well more stacks doesn't help much

[obtuse bramble]

should be quite substantial rot over a long game if can spread

[safe heart]

I guess of you play circle instead of draught

If you multi bleed, you're getting no value out of draught

[obtuse bramble]

maybe

still the swarms when flying around should be up close to 100%

on a single target

Edit: that's some value as well, I think

well, at least it's not nothing

[ocean barn]

question - is there a way to fashion a weakaura that if targeted and hibernation is being cast will alert you?

[stone breach]

yes

I think gladiatorlossa does this though if you like voice alerts

[ocean barn]

hmm seems like a heft addon for the one alert ill give that a go thanks @stone breach

[agile dagger]

does anyone play sp boomy rsham at 2400+ ?

[misty cobalt]

I think necro boomy could be better then kyrian next patch

Maybe Night fae boomy will be the best

since the cov legendary is already decent

[austere mesa]

i hope its NF

[trail ember]

Balance of all things + like a 2 second channeled convoke with majorly surges sounds pretty strong

That with incarn would make for some incredibly strong surges

[misty cobalt]

Because with draught of deep focus and the dot build with more haste

Could be op

@vestal citrus

I tested it on the ptr

I mean who cares

Just kill 1 target

Ass rogues dont even mutli bleed but it works

Circle could work too

The tier set seems better for night fae boomies

Bc it just enhances burst

[fair mirage]

have only queued into one and it was super obnoxious

overabundance of demon hunters who need a kyrian druid out there

[forest kite]

best covenant for blaance druid?

thanks

right

currently playing feral

i might change to try something new

like balanc

e

[fair mirage]

all four have potential for balance, three of the four look like they could be good for feral

gonna be an interesting 10 month season to be sure

same, that'd be brilliant

avoid the gigainflation and use another of the two glad tints

[forest kite]

holy shit its u again

from dh server xd

[fair mirage]

yeah couple months in and everything gets shaken up because you can play any combination of races

hello friend

[forest kite]

howdyh

pushing 1800 with dh

200 away

after that ill focus my druid

how do you get treeform?

restoration?

[fair mirage]

Well, there's a glyph for the old one, then a talent for restoration, but generally I think you want to play soul.

You'll be able to proc incarn: broccoli next patch with the tier, though, which will be fun.

[forest kite]

what you mean by playing soul?

i want to go restoration for healing pvp

yes i meant the old glyph one

[raven garnet]

How do you get set tier pieces in 9.2 in pvp?

[grand mesa]

Vault and eventually creation catalyst

Can craft tier directly with mats accrued from doing content

[safe heart]

You guys like pvp ?

[twin river]

Define pvp

[safe heart]

Oh word me 2

[desert anchor]

when does season 2 end?

today?

so we can push more rate till then right? someone said no more rate will be pushed during next week was curious

[tiny oar]

yea, after ssn u can still queue but rating stays the same and no more achives possible glad etc

[desert anchor]

thats after 22 right? till 3 march

[tiny oar]

yea

[desert anchor]

roger , thanks !

[misty cobalt]

I think night fae druid

has the best potential for 9.2

[tiny oar]

@lime light a secret panda alt ur not telling us about?

[misty cobalt]

u could run convoke + sephuz

[rare willow]

theres a couple legendaries that will pair well with celestial spirits

i kind of like the idea of nature's order will for just livelord powers in between convokes

pre-bearform a kidney shot w/ natural orders will and i cant imagine dying

yeah agreed. i doubt itll be BiS but theres comps/situations i see it just being the right choice

[lime light]

@tiny oar

[blissful belfry]

The real problem of that is when you get kidney before u pre-bear

if the regen triggered no matter the form, it would be more viable

cuz your real survivability issue is when u dont pre-bear stuns. When u do pre-bear, its very hard to die

[stoic patio]

I recently started RBGs as bear, and were wondering for tanks is it better to have more vers or higher ilvl in the slots? having some 233 pvp pieces with vers vs 252 / 259 pve pieces without vers

[faint marlin]

I'd take the vers tbh , depending on your current vers %

[stoic patio]

having 20.67% before the 40% from trinket bonus is calculated in..

it tells me to stick with what I already got or that's where I get the higher number atleast

[celest epoch]

Anyone tried Kyrian bleed build in 9.2 PTR? the 500+ mastery +15% increase damage should be close to Adaptive Swarm

[obtuse bramble]

Where do you get the 500 Mastery from?

[obtuse bramble]

oh, I thought, bonding with yourself doesn't increase Mastery at all with the leggo

When I tested it last time I only got the Pelagos buff, I think?

[celest epoch]

What @vestal citrus said

210+325 from Pely. Since moonfire doesnt scale with mastery it's not that great anyway so going for bleed + bite with Kyrian seems really strong in 9.2

[obtuse bramble]

the 325 from Pelagos Combat Meditation is only 50% of the value in pvp

[celest epoch]

Ah okay, that's too bad. I'm necroferal main so never had to chance to test myself

[safe heart]

Are you meaning like playing KA with draught ?

[desert anchor]

we will loose our current conquest points in 9.2 right?

[trail ember]

Ye no farm for u

We will also be capped the first few month too

[desert anchor]

ye figured

[trail ember]

Just like m+ valor cap

Would be kind of counterproductive to put a cap but allow you to farm like 20k the weeks prior

[safe heart]

id say i should spend it all but really nothing to do with it

[trail ember]

Spend conq on alt gear boxes and save honor

[safe heart]

i guess i need to level something

i have like 20k conquest on both my druids

[trail ember]

Yeah that's crazy

Enough to full gear 2 more druids

I only pvp'd at the end of this tier I was lucky enough to have a DH buddy that helped me hit 1800 on 2 characters now for my tmog sets. He likes the saddles and I like the tmogs and we're both ok at the game so it works out haha

I'm almost 1700 on my lock but it's 220pvp ilvl so I'm getting absolutely shredded in just about everything I do

[forest kite]

help, cant decide whether or not i wanna go balance, feral, guardian or restoration :/

all the specs are fun

well maybe not guardian for pvp

[lime light]

welcome in my channel

everyone

be nice or make me upseti

[amber snow]

resto for an easier time getting arena groups, guardian/balance for rbgs, feral if you mis-clicked on character creation and meant to make a rogue but now you're too invested and cba to level one.

[desert anchor]

does adaptive swarm affect shooting stars?

[lime light]

i would say

no

"and increases the effectiveness of your periodic effects on them by 25%."

ye thats normal

when we farm glad

the teams that are 2.6 2.7k mmr and fight us

end up at 3.1 3.2k

normaly

imo glad is in fine spot rn

its not hard to get a mount

so its aviable for everyone

if u put some effort into it

the thing is, they need to make boosting harder for boosters

so if your team mmr is below 2.4k (example)

u dont get a glad win

easy fix to farm ppl games

at low mmr

[fair mirage]

I wouldn't be annoyed by this if they put something between glad and r1

1k rating gap between glad and r1, and 2400 right now feels like 2000-2100

[rare willow]

yeah but thats where the skill of the player comes into it. a bad druid wont be tracking their stun DR's or their opponents damage cooldowns and be able to predict GO's. but good druids will. the better the druid the more consistency they'll have to pre-bear forming kidney shots.

[blissful belfry]

Yes, but the thing is. Taking a leggo spot to help you be tankier when u already are tanky enough isnt useful. It makes u tankier when you suceed and let u suck even more when u dont

that leggo has value i think when you are getting trained and sit in bear

[rare willow]

i dont think just bear form is tanky enough by itself in this meta. even w/ bear form a rogue/mage can still kill without at least something extra. or ret/war in a hoj. or mm/ret..

[blissful belfry]

If you pre-bear a stun, u done enough. i have 91k hp when i pre-bear

they aint killin me

[rare willow]

i've died through bear to tons of stuff and i have more than 91k hp in bear lol

it usually needs something extra. a barkskin or significant hots or earthen wall totem or something supplementary. not always, but if they do their GO properly with cross CC and cooldowns, bear isnt going to be enough. i think w/ natures orders will i think that changes.

and like i said, i dont think its goign to be the go-to standard, but there will be times and against teams where its the right choice.

[blissful belfry]

i doubt it does, for the reason i mentioned. Getting caught once out of bear makes it useless. But thats opinion at this point. nothing else to discuss

[rare willow]

dont get caught out of bear i guess.

[lime light]

turn retail stream

after a while

3rd kitty cleave

[crystal forge]

hello fellow pvpers

how do i get past 1200 cr

[lime light]

big damgur

[fair mirage]

that, and/or just make seasons shorter

like there's 6000 people above 2400 3s what the

like split seasons, do 2 per tier

and i think this system is fine

getting 3k when it's top 600

that is somewhat brief

[viscid remnant]

True

[edgy shale]

True

[safe heart]

I guess I atleast would've made duelist
No shot at glad

[fair mirage]

kyrian druid terrorizing the ladder for the final 2 months

every dh player going up at least 500 rating

some dh was explaining to me how if you use a mouseover macro you can disrupt through intervene and I'm like but that's just because the spell is magic

yeah my healer wanted to try it in these final few days before it gets gutted

both of them were like noo my flesh mastery and dispel protection so i never really asked

[rare willow]

there's a lot of kyrian rdruid pairing with necro rets

Cdew was getting dunked on by two different teams last night. several games Cdew was dropped ~80% -->0 in less than 1 second by an empowered ret

yeah its wild.

[fair mirage]

yeah kyrian rdruid necro warr is ultimate support

HERE'S THE JUICE DAD GO GET EM

necro ret smacks so hard

[oblique ridge]

Hey ! Just wanna know if there is something update for 9.2 feral pls ?

Like as a kyr feral, do we still go for the cov leggo after the nerf ? Before we get 2 ofc

[lime light]

No one will tell u

Before meta forms

[oblique ridge]

The thing is, i dont have it yet that's why i'm asking ^^ Just restarting playing feral again. I started in 9.0 by playing with the tiger fury one and if its still viable, i'll just stick to it some time

[tulip valve]

guys what's the best slot to craft daught of deep focus that won't be wasted when 9.2 comes out?

[tropic schooner]

you upgrade it anyway at some point or dont you want to do that?

[tulip valve]

not really. i'm more concerned about the slot

[vagrant spruce]

for any legendary, you'll be running 4 tier set + you can craft the new legendary on the slot with the worst stats, so always try and go for the non-tier slot

in this case neck

chest obv still isn't wasted, but long term its gonna be best to avoid tier set slots imo

[tulip valve]

yea i figure chest has tier on it so avoid that and just go neck. but then where does the covenant legendary go? is that on the waist?

necro + draught still looking solid?

[vagrant spruce]

covenant legendary will start on waist yeah, but you'll eventually be able to get it as a memory which you can put on any slot

https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=190590/memory-of-unity

[tropic schooner]

so if you never wanna upgrade you should use the one with the least amount of stats

cause your legendary is gonna be your worst item

[tulip valve]

oh really? didn't see it that way

alright. sweet. thanks @tropic schooner

[fiery jasper]

I have tried reading pins but wowhead on phone is kinda assbutt, tldr on balance for 9.2, leggo choice and covenant for rbg and 2/3s? If possible, I did try to look at pins but it’s tragic lol

[lime light]

think my disc priest

is kaput

[fair mirage]

Oh no

[lime light]

guess its time to play with mw friend

any kitter cleavers

[gilded mortar]

a bit of topic but does anyone know how the new 9.2 illusion looks? for getting 2.1k rating

[vague mural]

hey bois, haven't been looking much into ptr and changes, for jungle mains are we looking to stay necro or go kyrian (so far from what we know)

[obtuse bramble]

Nobody knows

[rare basin]

so we cant ask questions about what people will think work best for next patch because it hasn't come out yet?

[tropic schooner]

Correct

[vague mural]

Theory crafting is not allowed here

xD

[tropic schooner]

For PvP? Yea it's basically useless

Unless something is obvioys

In which case not much reason to ask

This isn't, so will have to be tested

Especially stuff like the trinket set change is hard to evaluate

[vague mural]

I haven't looked into ptr so I wasn't sure if anything was obvious or not

[tropic schooner]

How it will impact the game/gearing

[vague mural]

which is why I figured I would ask in case there was

[rare basin]

with all these bright druid minds... surely a prediction on something like which 2 leggos to use isn't the end of the world even if just based on a guess and with it coming out in a few days. but okay

[safe heart]

@vague mural are you zenathox?

[vague mural]

Yea

[safe heart]

Cool , I like your videos

[vague mural]

❤️

[safe heart]

I subbed

[rustic thorn]

Will tree of life see any more usage next season with double legendary/tier set changes? I see only 2 out of the top 50 RDruids run it right now. When does it make sense to run it?

It’s just such a cool form which is why it’s a shame it doesn’t get more play now

[tropic schooner]

Unity is one

Other one will depend on meta

[safe heart]

You're likely to play KA and verdant as a resto druid

Tree of life is trash and will prob see no use

It's a 3min cd that's low value even when popped
Vs soul which is useful every 15 seconds and combos well with NS

[safe heart]

I think necro is still the play atleast for the first few weeks

[rustic thorn]

Big sad

Thanks for reply tho

[safe heart]

Np
It's just hard to make tree have good value on such a long cd

Vs what you gain from pushing it

[rare basin]

how bad do you think the Kyrian nerf will end up translating? I think still better than convoke , the most overrated ability in the game

[vague mural]

convoke hasn't been rly that solid in a while in general for either boomie or feral I thought

not sure how its overrated

[safe heart]

Ppl who don't play feral think very highly of convoke

[rare basin]

to people who dont play druid i guess, think its still the ish

^

[vague mural]

ahh gotcha

[safe heart]

They got 1 shot in szn 1 and haven't let it go

[vague mural]

fair enough

[trail ember]

I love it when my convoke goes into the enemy oozeling

[rare basin]

they're like "oh just use convoke. not like it can get interrupted by 10 different things"

[trail ember]

Not being able to target people with it is the worst problem it has

[rare basin]

its still best for epic BG for balance but who even cares about epic lol

[trail ember]

Being able to run the 1min leggo will reduce it's cast time and give you bigger spells so it might come back for at least feral

Rated BG boomies run NF

[safe heart]

If you're not running the 1 min lego, it's not viable, straight up

[trail ember]

With the balance of all things leggo

[safe heart]

Like venthyr bad

[rare basin]

right of course

[safe heart]

Worse even

[trail ember]

Idk what's viable but I hit 1800 with balance of all things in 2a

NF

[safe heart]

Well I'm mainly talking feral, I don't play boomie

[trail ember]

Yeah feral needs that leggo

I wonder if the 40% dot leggo and 1min convoke will be good for pvp

Seems that way at least but I like waiting for the people who are ages better than me test all the stuff out

[rare basin]

for boomie i'm gonna go pulsar + kyrian or NF leggo, also worth wondering, will the new pvp trinket that lets you not get interrupted, will that help for 1 min convoke

[trail ember]

Pulsar in pvp?

In BGs I can see how that would be doable but 300 astral power in something like 2s.. doesn't seem like something I could survive long enough to use effectively

[rare basin]

**balance of all things, my bad

confused em

[trail ember]

Yesss I wish I played before the nerf

40% crit sounded crazy

[rare basin]

300 AP not doable except LM fights in AB or mid fight in EOTS

[trail ember]

That's what I was thinking and I was wondering if I was wrong since I'm newer to Boomie

I got a rival polearn in my vault so I think I might go feral for some of 9.2

I like the berserk tier bonus

[forest kite]

PvP, what would you say is the easiest class in 3v3s?

[safe heart]

Dh

Or ret

[forest kite]

yeah?

[vague mural]

arms

[safe heart]

You have s tier comps with both where you will win for free alot because your damage is too high to react to and the classes themselves are simple to pick up

[forest kite]

Should i play Boomie then with the DH?

[safe heart]

Yes

[forest kite]

sweet

[safe heart]

You'll get carried to glad by the dh easily

[forest kite]

does it matter what race i pick? Do i have to be Tauren?

[safe heart]

Nope