I am Norwegian but i didnt intend to type melt shit either ๐
#pvp
covert chasm
Hey necro will still be good(tonyferal) said so. And kyrian will be good. NF convoke ferals will Also be good! So u have options! ๐
amber snow
hint: game is quite well balanced, covenant choice makes little difference, play what you like.
gusty apex
viscid remnant
tiny oar
covert chasm
I've farmed 21k honor in ab today
I farmed full duelist earlier today xd, gonna need to farm full rival 2 on alt now xd
tired bloom
Guys, I know NF isn't great but I sitll enjoy it in 2v2. Is it better to pop Convoke after Celestial Alignment and Fury of Elune etc? Will it do more DPS that way or is it just completely random?
tropic panther
you don't need to pop fury of elune first
tired bloom
Ah ok
So when should I FoE?
For Convoke should I just pop Celestial Alignment, Trinket then convoke?
Also is there more chance of more DPS from Convoke if you're at full astral power? Or does that also make no difference?
tired bloom
Is it me or does convoke use hardly any balance spells anymore?
stone breach
just in case, were you in moonkin form?
surreal heron
rng is rng
tropic panther
convoke gives astral power
so using fury before it kinda dumb
pop it after dump star surges
tired bloom
Does it do more DPS the more Astral Power you have?
tropic panther
lol no
surreal heron
convoke does not take into account resources
tropic panther
why would it
tired bloom
ok I didnt think so
stone breach
Does it do more DPS the more Astral Power you have?
please read your spellbook tooltips
safe heart
you cant make me
prime rapids
I've been outhealing all of the healers as bear when I do RBGs
NoW is just busted
"but you need sleeper to hold flags from rogues"
moonfire has a 40yd range
edgy shale
fair mirage
hm
edgy shale
the great takes just never end in this channel lately
edgy shale
fair mirage
bm and havoc players get a lot of shit but jeez guardian players ๐
joined some rbg and the base sitting bear who only played bear just straight up neglected to cap the flag of his base
prime rapids
if you're getting double inc and not calling it ur base is gone anyway
sleeper has a long ass cooldown
once it's over they're just going to do that anyway
wheat atlas
does race matter in pvp? or can I be a zandalari?
random patrol
only if your like playing at super high rating should it matter
for min maxing
of course warstomp and shadowmeld are hard to pass up
why I have multiple druids
wheat atlas
hmm so tauren for pvp?
fair mirage
either tauren or nelf probably better than dino
although really it's not going to make or break things for a bit
random patrol
if you like the dino forms though go ahead
fair mirage
you will eventually be like dang warstomp clone or the ability to meld maledict/cc/burst or w/e is neato
random patrol
looks>one racial unless your super serious
prime rapids
I run tauren for the looks and max HP
wheat atlas
tx guys
fair mirage
yeah basically play what you like and when you reach the point where you're aware of the advantages of playing other races then revisit the decision
rare willow
the benefit of sleeper is that it gives your team 30seconds to cross the map and help defend. the CD isnt really anything in rbgs because you can take emerald slumber talent and get the cooldown reset buff on certain maps. if a boomkin / rogue open on you from stealth you are going to get blinded instantly to stop the druid from capping, you'll trinket that, into kidney shot into sap or half stun. either way they just got the base in under 10 seconds and your team is only half way back to where you are
rotund oak
Is 255 items typically worth the switch from domination gear for a boomie?
prime rapids
the benefit of sleeper is that it gives your team 30seconds to cross the map and...
To be fair, the benefit of NoW is that I can 1v2 very reliably. They're going to be spending two of their teammates to temporarily hold one base.
rogue has no way to heal their teammate and awful self heals
they're either forced to run off or die
and in flag carry maps I am significantly more durable
(as I said, usually outhealing the actual healers)
while being 3rd or 4th on damage
in yolo/pug RBGs where you can't rely on people to have brain cells or send backup it's infinitely more useful
fair mirage
yeah but you get cc'd and they take the base
like why do bears ever even look at the scoreboard
prime rapids
same thing is going to happen the moment sleeper runs out
with NoW I can kill them both and take it back
fair mirage
yeah but sleeper gives u enough time to spin
which is your job
stay alive keep base safe teammate or two rotates over
you realistically aren't killing anybody as a bear
they press their buttons and walk away because bears do nothing except exist
prime rapids
stay alive keep base safe teammate or two rotates over
people don't usually help
fair mirage
meant to have somebody ready to peel out
you're keeping an eye on potential roamers or entertaining the notion that they may be encroaching on your base and give your peeler the heads up that you may be getting hit soon
prime rapids
you realistically aren't killing anybody as a bear
I mean I usually have top 3rd or 4th damage and killing blows but go off I guess
1v2 most DPS comps
fair mirage
like if boomie and rogue mia for 10-15+ seconds
you be like hey boomie rogue mia inc my base then say the base
prime rapids
I don't know how many times I have to say it before you read it
but I do not have a dedicated RBG guild or team and randoms just do not listen
while I can reliably kill 1-2 dps players and retake the base myself with NoW
(the entire time leaving my team at a 9v8 advantage)
fair mirage
hmm
prime rapids
if it's rogue/healer I usually just rotate off of it because bear isn't killing healers
and try to pick up one of my dumb ass teammates and drag them over to it
because the only way to guide LFG randoms is by getting them to follow you with monkey-see monkey-do
fair mirage
you don't have to kill them
prime rapids
unless they're a healer it's not exactly difficult to do
they really can't kill me, so
plus NoW is just plain better for flag holding and I don't want to shell out for another legendary
warsong, twin peaks, ect
- 2 frenzied regens and 30% DR (not including ironskin) on a 30s cooldown with conduit, effectively doubling your self healing uptime outside of incarn
but ok
what do you think I'm going to do afterwards
just afk?
both of them will die
recap, ez, my team gets to 9v8 the whole time
lmao I am healing myself more than the actual healers are doing to the entire team
if I played with people with a crumb of intelligence I might consider taking sleeper (even though it is objectively worse for CTF and would require multiple legenaries) but as it stands it just prolongs the time before the cap marginally
from your base
why am I inside my base on CTF instead of going for theirs
???
Then.. say that?
you may not know this
but they can't cap the flag while you're holding it
pro tip btw
fair mirage
dang
that is a fantastic point
LMAO
i love life
when i try to picture the inside of a bear players head
prime rapids
idk man you're the one having a stroke
talking about people capping the flag while I'm holding it
sitting in my base not going to get the flag or something
fair mirage
it's always literally exactly this
plus like maybe some beer cans rattling around on his desk
"dude why haven't you capped stables"
"i can't the bear is holding it"
prime rapids
I was inspired by your mental equivalent of erectile dysfunction so I made this for you out of boredom
enjoy
fair mirage
rare willow
same thing is going to happen the moment sleeper runs out
with NoW I can kill th...
"same thing is going to happen the moment sleeper runs out"
Absolutely. 100%, but if it takes your teammates more than 30seconds to get from the team fight, to your base to help you, that is not your problem. That is THEIR problem. if you call "hey i got 2 on me at Lighthouse" and no one peels from Waterworks to help you? then i would find a better group after that match. Sleeper is meant to give you 30 seconds leeway for reinforcements. If you dont get help while you have cooldowns available, you WILL lose the base eventually.
prime rapids
"find a better group" doesn't help much without a dedicated team
LFG is a mixed bag
just gotta go with it
I just had a silvershard match where I was 3v1'd on a cart and survived ret/war/rogue all hitting me for over a minute while undergeared
meaning my team was at a 2 person advantage and still couldn't do shit
absolute shutout of a match
prime rapids
just had another LFG match
twin peaks
rogue just sat on me, sapping and blinding while I was trying to travel across the map
team literally ran past me and left me sitting there
at least we won
(top healing btw as usual)
still bs though
that's the quality of my randoms
rare willow
all of that sounds like a reason to drop that group, and find a different one. LFG is a mixed bag, but there are gems in there. and as a guardian you can afford to be picky.
getting 3v1'd and surviving on silvershard really isnt a good thing. it just shows that no one in that match understood the mechanics of silver shard. carts are proximity and against good teams, the rogue can just CC you until you fall out of the cart if you arent using Sleeper (or after its over if theres enough time) with nothing you can do about it. Against mediocre teams, the rogue + 1 can turn the cart with shadowy duel on you while his warrior turns the cart.. and even without duel if they just stand 2 in the circle vs your 1 in the circle they'll turn it eventually.
with 3 v 1 they shouldnt be tryng to kill you. just stand inside the circle until it flips and then 2 run away to go steal another cart.
you should have abandoned the cart if you saw 3 of them on you. just let them have it and go to the other off cart. or just delay them from leaving is okay i guess. but never worth blowing CD's and trying to survive them. just wastes CD's. either run from an inevitable loss fight or just try and cc them so they cant make it to the next off cart either.
rare willow
just had another LFG match
twin peaks
rogue just sat on me, sapping and blinding...
yeah thats exactly what we're all telling you happens when you dont run Sleeper
prime rapids
all of that sounds like a reason to drop that group, and find a different one. ...
Rogue couldn't CC me off cart because of DR. They only took it because 3 people vs 1 on cart will make them take it from you
prime rapids
yeah thats exactly what we're all telling you happens when you dont run Sleeper
??? sleeper lasts 30 seconds
how do I make it all the way across twin peaks in bear form with nothing but stampeding to help
- once it wears off I have the exact same issue for the next 2 minutes
I had top healing that game because of NoW
rare willow
??? sleeper lasts 30 seconds
how do I make it all the way across twin peaks in b...
well you have 2 sprints + travel form and depending on if you are alliance or horde you have Flap. it will at the very least get you across river to your team's GY where theres no reason to not find help waiting
prime rapids
well you have 2 sprints + travel form and depending on if you are alliance or ho...
Why would I be in travel form instead of mounted when I don't have the flag?
rare willow
if you dont have the flag you should be stealth. i thought you meant you had the flag already
prime rapids
as far as I know sleeper doesn't keep you from being CC'd while in travel
rare willow
it does but its irrelevant
keep an eye on their rogue and you can find time to go travel and zoom zoom
prime rapids
point is, my team should have tried to destealth the rogue or at least do something other than keep running like they didn't even notice
rare willow
yes and no. imho, getting from the Enemy Flag Room to your GY is solely the job of the tank. You shouldnt need help picking up the flag or bringing it to Your Teams GY where you meet up with a Disc priest and are chill again.
prime rapids
anyway I'm in warsong
prime rapids
well that did not go well
I got oneshotted by 7 enemy people all bursting me at once while I had 8 stacks of flag
somehow my team couldn't deal with the EFC even though over half their damn team wasn't even there
absolutely embarrassing
they killed me through incarn, 3 stacks of frenzied, survival instincts, 3 ironfurs, Barkskin (30% w NoW)
and fleshcraft
another warsong, another loss
literally sitting back half the game
running flag
and I have top healing
give me a break
fair mirage
almost like those numbers don't mean anything then
viscid remnant
Boingus
prime rapids
not like they were doing anything in the moment either
most useful thing they did was priest grip me
once
half of these mfs have like 35k hp in honor gear
is this what I get for using LFG?
fair mirage
i need hero and rbg wins eventually and am procrastinating doing it
i dream of doing rbgs with 9 arena players
tiny oar
Why r u doing rbgs just afk in comp stomp and play runescape lol
fair mirage
cheevo
viscid remnant
If i was thyme i would make warden delete anything this scoundrel furry dumbass types tbh
edgy shale
fair mirage
i went to respond to him before and all my stuff got deleted its like oh
surreal heron
If i was thyme i would make warden delete anything this scoundrel furry dumbass...
good point
$mute 247410790083198976
last owlBOT
Done.
edgy shale
fair mirage
fair mirage
never realized how warm those little rats were until one jumped on me
I've always had super fluffy cats
surreal heron
@viscid remnant thank you again for another good point
edgy shale
lol im monkasing too much again
edgy shale
ya I thought maybe david pmed him something rancid so he banned him lol
when i saw thyme type that
surreal heron
edgy shale
edgy shale
I missed you dearly david.
tiny oar
Wb david
viscid remnant
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surreal heron
๐<:VerySadCat:845090284231458817>
let that die with el patron
tiny oar
let that die with el patron
El patron will never die he lives on always in our hearts :
Fuck it who cares
polar nymph
What happened to el
surreal heron
quit retail
tiny oar
Not even editing it
viscid remnant
El patron shall live in our hearts
polar nymph
All memes are destined to die
amber snow
What happened to el
told everyone he couldn't handle the cringe here any more and quit ... sensible dude
amber snow
@prime rapids fwiw ... I play gdruid @2.1 ... your whole 'NoW makes sense for randoms' thing is completely legit. Might start running it myself for those. Everyone else is right that for rated sleeper is better but that's not what you were talkin' about.
viscid remnant
fathom spire
my dreamgrove brothers, i achieved 2.1k in 2s today
success
fury warr is stupid, 1800 hardstuck to 2.1
viscid remnant
Good job
fathom spire
thanks 
tiny oar
Happy for u maniac
I queued with a bm hunter who knew how to intim trap and instantly went up 200 rating nice game
fathom spire
ya makes a big difference
i made a pug group called learning and westart winning every game
tardy hare
"but you need sleeper to hold flags from rogues"
Ok so get this ye
U pick sleeper
So whenever youre double inc'd
You can keep your base for
Barkskin duration + incarn duration + barkskin duration again + trinket
Which is like
Atleast 1 minute of postponing a cap
Which is ridiculous
And for flag mals like wsg/TP
The tank meta is boring af
Because what you do rn
Is wait in enemy base till other tabk gets mad enough to pick flag
Then ur team nukes the shit out of him
Then u just cross the map with incarn up and cap
Then repeat
tardy hare
as far as I know sleeper doesn't keep you from being CC'd while in travel
Sleeper keeps you from being CCd in any form, which is also why you cant use the dream pvp talent to reduce cooldowns while sleeper is up
Like, if youre a guardian druid and I inc you as feral
Your base is gone in about 25-30 seconds if you dont run sleeper
Implying youre a guardian druid up until 2.4k cr ish in skill
For me its irrelevant if youre alive or not at that base
You cant kill me anyway
viscid remnant
Very true
tiny oar
Very true
junior plover
Sometimes all i think about is you
mellow granite
that el patron irl?
viscid remnant
yes that is his physical form
mellow granite
viscid remnant
el patron tells us to never give up and press on through absolute darkness
junior plover
el patron will be back
viscid remnant
el patron will be back stronger than ev once the next season is out he shall root out all scoundrels from mordor
covert chasm
Ferals need decent gear before doing dam? Im necro in challenger 1 hear atm. Renown 60. Just started again. But i feel like i do no dam
Gear*
viscid remnant
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tiny oar
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tiny oar
Ferals need decent gear before doing dam? Im necro in challenger 1 hear atm. Ren...
This is true for any spec tbh but gear is really a crutch to a certain extent. Like if you're struggling to push 1400 gear is likely not the problem etc.
But yea it absolutely makes a difference dmg wise.
tough meadow
Guys, any guide somewhere that's goes very Indepth with feral pvp?
junior plover
Watch Snupy
viscid remnant
REAL
wise valley
@vestal citrus dude I wanna visit Adelaide so bad
covert chasm
This is true for any spec tbh but gear is really a crutch to a certain extent. L...
Yeah i just wondered , nah im 2100 cr on monk but i wanna start play my feral. Prob just feels worse because my gear and conduits is Actually shit ๐ il just grind that shit
tiny oar
Yea comp stomp week baby honor cap 5 times over ez game
safe heart
@covert chasm just try to remember to keep swarm on your killl target always but you need to pair feral frenzy with swarm every time, don't push FF without swarm and tiger fury up
Save your tigers fury for FF always.
Besides that, maintain your dots with as much uptime as you can but to maximize, try to avoid just spamming rakes and moonfires when they have decent duration left.
Make sure you're not pressing thrash basically at all and if you do , clear cast only because it does literally no damage and wastes energy.
Try to cleave with brutal slash where you can but this is mainly just padding the meters.
Also just because you're a bleeder doesn't mean you shouldn't be biting when rip has a 10+ seconds of duration left
So weave bites when possible but not at the expense of rip
fair mirage
yeah this ^ is all i did to get my duelist
stun both people press big bleed stuff on kill target maintain dots and run until frenzy back up
second or third one was kill in almost every game
safe heart
Yeah it's honestly kinds broken if you have a hunter who can land a trap 50% of the time
fair mirage
i also played savage roar because it just seemed better for how i was playing so the goes were actually just so huge
safe heart
I think if you're running outside of goes it's nice but if you're staying in doing damage it's hard to maintain, atleast for me
I swapped to soul and have been having a better time
fair mirage
yeah i wasn't familiar enough with damage to stay in and it just felt kind of like sub rogue where i was backstabbing them for 500
so dots up bear up be safe between goes
feral seems like a spec that'd be super fun to be good at
safe heart
It's my favorite
I have 4 ferals
Once you get some bearings for your tankiness and pre bearing damage you can do so much
safe heart
Yes
viscid remnant
didnt u ask this yesterday
safe heart
Vers -> mastery -> haste
viscid remnant
okiam sorry maybe it was someone else
rotund basin
What is the best way to deal with being trained as boomy in 3s? Just sit bear form and do nothing?
Most issues come from warriors and monks
stone breach
usually just kite and draw them out into dangerous positions (behind pillar, toward but spaced from your healer)
or abuse Z-axis to make them cry
covert chasm
<@232247414671540225> just try to remember to keep swarm on your killl target al...
Thank you for a detailed answer. I just gotta farm full renown and then il go at it. Pretty sure i can Get duelist with my feral this season.
tough meadow
when do we use berserk ? i find myself often not needing it
fair mirage
i see a lot of ferals just send it in the opener, or second go
curious to see how it'll be used next patch with the tier because i know people are going to be dying in the opener to it every game through wall
gonna be weakkauras that blow fog horns when the bleed comes out
tough meadow
will the dmage be that big
thats nice tho that they added something more to berserk cooldown
it feels so dull otherwise
fair mirage
it was doing like 2-3x the dmg of feral frenzy on ptr
tf + swarm + sr will have people actually exploding
tough meadow
im hoping they change the necro covenant leggo
fair mirage
hm was curious about something like fls and u play circles and just bleed everything
elfin thicket
Iโm still deciding on what I want to play this may be my first season trying feral pvp
tough meadow
thats what im doing right now
first time playing feral,its not bad
tho i dont see myself doing any pve content at all with feral lol
for pvp tho..its pretty cool
wind tendon
Hey all , small question : i play in rbg's and the pvp talents for me that work are : Toughness , Overrun ( or demo roar ) , emerald slumber : 2K+ rating and those talents always did it for me.
But i see people use malorne swiftness, and i just dont really see the point in that. when im holding the flag i get attacked so i dont sit in travel form alot and in your own base you cant use travel form. wont it be a waste of a talent point to take that ? just call me stupid but after playing since vanilla i still have many noob questions :X xD
eternal ginkgo
Hey all , small question : i play in rbg's and the pvp talents for me that work ...
Imo overrun isn't as useful in ctf. I tend to run malornes when carrying because the speed is crazy. If you have to carry as bear across the entire map your team isn't peeling well. But I could see a case to be made for not using it, especially if you have multiple priests (for grip) and warlock for gateway.
wind tendon
Imo overrun isn't as useful in ctf. I tend to run malornes when carrying because...
Thanks for the responds, i just see it as a lsot talent when your in your base, and i understand the team not peeling well but i never had problems running across the map. even dash , stampeding roar, soulshape will get me to my base. overrunn did save and help me out many times. even using it as a mobility skill when enemy's come charging at me. or even knocking enemy's off from roof and ramps etc. i do see its a great speed crossing the map tho.
We are not the best so i get attacked alot haha thats for sure:P
eternal ginkgo
Thanks for the responds, i just see it as a lsot talent when your in your base, ...
Yeah I've run overrun before as fc so I see value there. It's an extra charge and the knock certainly comes in handy.
I think the overall value depends on your team's strategy. Mine doesnt like the traditional D vs O so we do more fast caps
wind tendon
ye we are not experts still on the peels etc. so the defends and mobility from overrunn would be better at many points. i will try to play with both and see what happens eheh. Thanks alot!
safe heart
Anyone played kyrian feral / necro warrior in 3s at high rating ?
haughty compass
Kyrian dps Druid is meta atm
fair mirage
Anyone played kyrian feral / necro warrior in 3s at high rating ?
have queued into like 3 this past week at 2900ish
they eat my mw
haughty compass
You can convoke as feral or moonkin to glad right now if you wanted
Kyrian moonkin just easier
fair mirage
yeah but why kyrian boomie is like multipel tiers better
and feral has two better options
haughty compass
Yes
fair mirage
buff convoke the ability is in shambles
safe heart
they eat my mw
Mainly asking because I had some early success but it dropped off pretty fast so was curious if anyone had some tips for a higher success rate
Like we almost guaranteed to die before 2nd go if we don't kill in the opener
Usually they kill warrior
safe heart
I'm not really queuing that comp now but I have 2 warriors asking about it and it's a cool comp but it feels bad to play
fair mirage
dwarf warrior with 0% haste and 28% crit mortal strike my sham for like 30k
11% vers or w/e doubled is just so big and scary
off global too
safe heart
Should we be running between go's or should we stay in and slug it out
I feel like kyrian feral isn't punchy enough without cds up
safe heart
Yeah ofc
That might be our problem
We haven't tried with a disc priest , only holy or rsham
fair mirage
ya like u know what buttons they have
so trade your stuff
and be on same page to avoid overlaps etc
safe heart
I'm hesitant to try it again but I do feel like weren't it playing effectively as we could've
I mean if it works at 2900 it's gotta work at 2400
I guess I better git gud at that comp anyway since it'll probably be the meta next patch assuming necro mm / kyrian jungle isnt
fair mirage
yeah it is a remarkably solid comp rn
just gotta figure out the macro game of how you're trading stuff
then just getting cc out prior to the go like bolt/maim warrior so he can't intervene then stun healer empower etc
fish for sd proc before sending if possible
safe heart
I think one thing that we were deff doing wrong was warrior wanted to party the first go to avoid getting disarmed
I think that's why he basically always got killed before the 2nd go
But yeah ima try to find a disc and have a convo with the warrior about our cd usage and make sure we're not mongoing
fair mirage
full mongo sending is a little bit much
but a disc could actually cover for it lmao
but yeah get cc out before sending go
and on same page as to how you're peeling stuff
i fear next i fear next don't use
ya ideally like 5+ seconds ahead of time
makes it a lot more relaxed
if u know teammate is gonna trinket ground a go
queue into newbie discs that hold cds for dear life
queue into r1s and it's always scripted trades
everybody 100% the milisecond they see a commit the barrier goes down
vague mural
shrewd plank
HOw much mastery do i need on my kitty pvp gear?
untold tapir
Mainly asking because I had some early success but it dropped off pretty fast so...
It should be Rlly good with dbl legendary
hasty vault
kindred affinity or deep focus lege as kyrian kitty?
torpid wren
Where should I look to find a resto for duelist kfc
tiny oar
LFG ๐
hasty vault
and does kyrian feral go full mastery aswell
tiny oar
kindred affinity or deep focus lege as kyrian kitty?
Kyrian leggo, full versa mastery is fine
hasty vault
oki
fleet pulsar
Whats the consesus for 9.2 Resto druids covenant wise? Stay Necro or go Kyrian once you get double leggo?
tiny oar
Whats the consesus for 9.2 Resto druids covenant wise? Stay Necro or go Kyrian o...
Adaptive swarm and fleshy p are still both insane so I think necro will still be default choice but wouldn't be surprised to see a few kyrian or nfae rdruids doing well too.
hasty vault
how bout feral? necro lege afaik is baddie
tiny oar
Wowzwrz
fleet pulsar
ty @tiny oar gonna just get my Kyr renown to 80 in the mean time
tiny oar
Ye comp stomp it up free honor and renown ez game
brave venture
any pvpers?
tiny oar
Yea we got a bunch in here think I could count them all with 2 hands
brave venture
im owning in comp stomp
tiny oar
Yep me too cap farm > tab to runescape
hasty vault
dudes, where do ya guys macro on use trinket as feral? incarn? frenzy? berserk? necrolord abil?
tropic schooner
ideally no where
covert chasm
I cap gm because they never try retake it
covert chasm
dudes, where do ya guys macro on use trinket as feral? incarn? frenzy? berserk? ...
Dont macro burst together ๐๐ป
forest kite
Hows resto doing in bgs
tough meadow
guys is it worth playing feral and invest in it to learn,are they struggling in pvp and in arenas ? or are they top tier
hasty vault
feral has atleast jungle cleave, kitty cleave that are r1 capable so if u digg the spec, very worth
rich crag
@tough meadow Feral is viable. Dig deep and determine if you want to invest time to learn it's a fun class to experience.
tough meadow
<@!660502892154716212> Feral is viable. Dig deep and determine if you want to in...
ye i want ot invest in it,always wanted to play feral ever since wotlk,but i just decided not to play it,seemed rather difficult
but fuck it
covert chasm
Its fun โบ๏ธ
forest kite
hello friendos, ive never piiviipiied, wondoering if i can just do BG's to fill vault for potential tier set pces?
eternal ginkgo
Question for you kitties... as necro I'm running draught. In 2s or 3s would I ever want to multi dot to apply pressure? Or only single dot to maximize draught's increased damage?
worthy belfry
is efflorescence ever worth the global in 2's
tardy hare
Question for you kitties... as necro I'm running draught. In 2s or 3s would I ev...
Multi dot is the opposite of applying pressure with draught
So no
Never
tiny oar
is efflorescence ever worth the global in 2's
if ur boys raw screwed in a duel its sum healing, if your a wizard cleave fighting another wizard in 3s and ur just pillaring all game its good value. other than than can use it with a vate if your boi knows to stand in it
tough meadow
so i got into arenas for the first time with a random rogue
usually do we always focus the dps when they are dps and healer
worthy belfry
would you run guardian affinity or feral with arms war in 2's
having trouble getting past 1800 , we're both new to pvp , getting shit on by mage/rogue every single time
grand mesa
I think bear is comfy as hell
Feral I feel like you can fuck up and get clapped so hard ๐
cerulean condor
Playing rdruid dh in 2v2 when should i take Flourish?
tiny oar
would you run guardian affinity or feral with arms war in 2's
depends on your comfort level playing cat aff, it will always be better if you can get away with it. if you're struggling to live or just need to omega damp warr rdruid ppl guardian is a good choice too.its not super needed as arms rdruid to be cat aff though compared to a caster or hunter/rogue etc
tiny oar
Playing rdruid dh in 2v2 when should i take Flourish?
its nice into purge teams or rogue mage , hunter holy priest etc
ive gotten exalted with AB from 0 rep and 22 kyrian renown in comp stomp someone fucking help me
cerulean condor
its nice into purge teams or rogue mage , hunter holy priest etc
ty
covert chasm
Im not getting any renown from comp stomp. Does it stop after 50 or something?
fair mirage
Nope, goes all the way to 80 I think
It does slow down after a point but it's a nice way of rounding out renown on chars you're grinding out honor on for rival-duelist upgrades
amber snow
Im not getting any renown from comp stomp. Does it stop after 50 or something?
used to be the case that renown was capped at various points depending on how far through the campaign you were
safe heart
Anyone wanna lend me a good hunter for the weekend ? I have a priest buddy and I'm 5/50 glad wins
covert chasm
used to be the case that renown was capped at various points depending on how fa...
I have only done like 3 quest of the campaign ๐
tough meadow
My dudes how do you handle fucking resto shaman and dh.. That shit is nuts damage
Shaman doing the same damage as the dh at the start what the hell
covert chasm
Kill DH
worthy carbon
are we using mekanikos vs rogue mage as boomy?
rare willow
My dudes how do you handle fucking resto shaman and dh.. That shit is nuts damag...
as what? and im assuming you mean 2s? if its like feral / x vs DH/Rsham i usually just tunnel the resto shaman and keep CC on the DH. demon hunters have insane mobility except when they are rooted and you can burn your PS procs on instant roots and its sooo worth it. root -> root -> root -> cyclone -> cyclone -> cyclone-> stun --> root .... etc etc. you can really limit the DH's play time all by yourself.
and yeah the Earth elemental is insane damage, you can root it and run away, or depending on who you play with you can taunt it back and forth to keep it moving around in no man's land and doing nothing.
rare willow
Is Kyrian feral worth the hype? im grinding it out in comp stomp but tbh, it feels super underwhelming to me. does it feel better in 3's? will it be worth having in 9.2 ?
fair mirage
kitty and dh/boomie are two of the best comps on ladder rn ya
boomie/ww and boomie/spriest also super solid i think
rare willow
kitty and dh/boomie are two of the best comps on ladder rn ya
for sure. it just feels so underwhelming without solid teammates i guess
fair mirage
4pc probably wreaking havoc in ptr skirms
junior pilot
Yep thatโd be it. Itโs bound to be nerfโd. I hope not tho lol
fair mirage
obsidian acorn
Popping berserk and it applying a bleeding to every thing is pretty op tbh lol
It's gonna get changed 
fair mirage
I imagine they'll just slap a big pvp modifier on it.
obsidian acorn
Yeah probably
tough meadow
Are there any feral videos where they have tips againts certain classes or comps?
junior plover
Snupy is great about answering questions
Just pop into his chat if you need tips vs a specific class
tough meadow
i managed to get to 1750 with 225pvp ilvl on feral,but at this point .. its just way too fucking unplayable most of the times,im literally with 43k health againts pepole who are over 50k constantly ,doing double my damage and i dont have enough to finish them off
im not sure what to do now
need conquest
fair mirage
play another bracket and just focus on wins not climbing
tank 1700 cr bracket to farm easier wins
then there's comp stomp for brain-off honor gains
tough meadow
play another bracket and just focus on wins not climbing
ye thats a good idea,maybe try 3s or rated bgs,but i doubt feral is good in rated bgs
fair mirage
epic bg wins are another source, as well as weekly quests like 1.5k honor in a bg
but really farming low mmr wins in any bracket is the best thing
tropic schooner
im not sure what to do now
if you got 1750 Im pretty sure you could also hit 1800 if you put time into it and slowly upgrade some more pieces
but if you get frustrated ofc can also do different content
tough meadow
but if you get frustrated ofc can also do different content
I can usually do it yeah... But it's wiggling up and down inconsistently at this point
tropic schooner
that will always happen
tough meadow
Tho im surprised I managed to get to 1750 with feral, but didn't manage to do it with SV hunter
And feral is considered somewhat more difficult than hunter, or am I wrong
fair mirage
i found necro feral to be super easy
although there's a ton of stuff u could be doing
2s was just like tf/swarm/frenzy while they're both stunned then don't die until u can do that again
only remembered that feral also had access to barkskin as i was finishing up
tough meadow
Is there a scenario where you dot up two targets? Or is it always just one
Cause of the legendary
fair mirage
dunno i just dotted one person then would heal/clone between goes
edgy oxide
do we still use Mark of the wild as resto or is reactive resin the go to for pvp talents?\
fleet pulsar
ty @vestal citrus for the wowhead guide mate
@edgy oxide RR against melee, MotW against casters
edgy oxide
for sure, does Mark help against assa rogues? ive been trying out thorns against like melee and it feels alright i guess
fleet pulsar
Nah, MotW only decent against dots/magic, RR against all melee is preferred
edgy oxide
alright thanks for some reason i thought it would help against assa but i think i thought bleeds were nature and not physical
shut osprey
Questionโฆ what druid spec for solo queue?
fair mirage
the one ur good at
it's gonna b like league where every game decided by the healer lel
idle cypress
cerulean condor
do you guys know any good rdruid streamers?
rare willow
im 90% sure flopdru streams... metaphors is a rshaman main but plays rdruid more than anything else these days
edgy shale
FATAPHORE
haughty compass
Meta needs a therapist
rare willow
its true
tiny oar
I've farmed 50k honor in comp stomp send help
tough meadow
I've farmed 50k honor in comp stomp send help
Jesus man..
tiny oar
Jesus man..
Best part is my gear isnt even full 8/9
tropic schooner
I've farmed 50k honor in comp stomp send help
Madness
tropic schooner
Should probably think about sleeping instead of going even more insane
tough meadow
does anyone know how much haste i need so that when i incap roar i have enough time to cyclone them
right now im with 6% haste and the window seems way too small and they can interrupt me
asking about feral druid
covert chasm
Ahh
tough meadow
Is feral paired with MM good in 2s?
viscid remnant
Boingusus
junior plover
sick harbor
Hey guys - Looking for an experienced Feral druid to give a noobie some advice. Gonna guess there are a few of you in here ๐
stone breach
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main sinew
anybody know what the go to covenant choice is going to be in 9.2 or is staying as necrolord for resto?? TIA
exotic karma
Hello I've been playing 2s as nf balance druid with protection paladin and I need help as if I can get kicked when I have blessing of spellwarding on me... does someone know?
fair mirage
i imagine u can be kicked with physical stuff, like pummel from warr, kick from rogue
but not dh/dk as those are magical
exotic karma
okay thank you and what about guardian of the forgotten queen, does it prevent getting cc'd/interrupted at all?
sick harbor
Whats best legendary for Feral?
mellow granite
Whats best legendary for Feral?
fae go for their cov lego, same with kyrian, necro use draught
fair mirage
yes if people can sit down and figure out a plan it can fall apart very quickly
exotic karma
alrighty thanks boys
safe heart
Does DH/kyrian Feral/rsham work or is there something about boomie thats essential
haughty compass
Root beam
safe heart
so like feral over boomie would actually be that much worse
is root beam that much better than just like bash clone
fair mirage
into everything other than rdruid yeah
root beam one global, empower fury the next, then dump surges into stunned target
yeah i have seen so many necro dps + kyrian druid of various specs
haughty compass
The year of the simp
shrewd plank
What ring enchants on kitty pvp rings?
Should i go with more versatility?
Didn't know if i should go for more crit or mastery due to those stats not being great in PVP gear
Most groups seem to want me bear or boomer. But i just find Kitty more fun
haughty compass
Only reason I play moonkin is itโs good in all content. Feral so fun tho
shrewd plank
Only reason I play moonkin is itโs good in all content. Feral so fun tho
lol yeah i prefer feral. it just feels more fun to me to be a kitten than a chicken.
tiny wigeon
Which cov is looking the best of feral in pvp?
tiny oar
Which cov is looking the best of feral in pvp?
Kyrian nfae necro are all solid rn, for 9.2 depends on tuning, no one knows
tough meadow
How do you setup a kill with feral? In 2s, do you simply bash the off target and just do all your damage on the kill target?
vague blade
Is there any reason to playing resto druid nf or should it always be necrolord?
sick harbor
Anyone got an armory link for their feral?
tiny oar
How do you setup a kill with feral? In 2s, do you simply bash the off target a...
Pretty much, if you play with holy priest you can rotate chastise/bash into fear on offtarg, maim kill target every 30s. Same thing with hpal hoj rep.
tiny oar
Is there any reason to playing resto druid nf or should it always be necrolord?
Its playable in 2s mostly but necrolord is insanely bis.
vague blade
Should I use necrolords if Iโm 80 in nf and 40 in necro?
tiny oar
Should I use necrolords if Iโm 80 in nf and 40 in necro?
Still preferable to be necro yea but I'd do sum torgy p to unlock the rest of the soulbind traits.
tough meadow
Pretty much, if you play with holy priest you can rotate chastise/bash into fear...
In which moments do I use cyclone, I'm watching hydramist coaching a 1.6cr feral, he never tells him to cyclone, just bash off target and follow up with priest cc
I'm learning feral myself , very new to it
vague blade
Still preferable to be necro yea but I'd do sum torgy p to unlock the rest of th...
K, thanks
tiny oar
In which moments do I use cyclone, I'm watching hydramist coaching a 1.6cr feral...
Yea as feral priest I would only ever clone to soak kicks for ur healer or to help peel dps off them if they're getting trained. Talking as a rdruid but I like to clone after defensive cds used on kill targets if it's safe to be in caster in the moment, karma die by the sword sac etc. But ur priest will take care of fear DRs on offtarg dont really have to worry about that.
tough meadow
Yea as feral priest I would only ever clone to soak kicks for ur healer or to he...
That's fair, that's a big mistake I did until now, trying so hard to clone, while losing on dps and pressure and also slow on the combo point build up.
torpid pilot
what should feral be looking at crafting as their second legendary when running celestial in 9.2
tough meadow
Probably drought for extra sustained damage?
I'm not looking forward for the necro covenant legendary, can't see its uses and its impact
vague blade
How do you get the treant form?
Iโve seen people have it on keybind
And wondered how to get it
tiny oar
And wondered how to get it
This is the treat form if you mean the cosmetic glyph
https://www.wowhead.com/item=136787/tome-of-the-wilds-treant-form
vague blade
Ty
obtuse bramble
Has anyone tested the feral tier set boni with the different covs? I im agine Kyrian and Necro should benefit most from the Dot. ๐ค
tough meadow
tier set is pretty nutty right now,will get a nerf most likely
but its the same with other classes too
Ret paladins,Assa rogues etc
tough meadow
againts Warrior/healer comps who is generally the main kill target ?
eternal ginkgo
does anyone know how much haste i need so that when i incap roar i have enough t...
My feral buddy told me 10% haste was a good amount. I just swapped some gear around to get there and haven't yet tested it though
safe heart
Both of my ferals have about 10% so sounds fine
If you incap and immediately cast clone you should be able to land it
It's like 1.7 second cast even at low haste and incap is 3s
haughty compass
Good riddance boosters
blissful belfry
PvP too easy. i finally upped my necrolord since they allowed cov swap and got 2.1 in two sessions
safe heart
Just means you're pretty good!
blissful belfry
i played 2s with a marksman, he just press double tap and we go next
blissful belfry
i feel like the rating is inflatd
fair mirage
ya lil bit
edgy oxide
Can 2 kyrian druids give one person the covenant ability and can it stack?
edgy oxide
Thatโs what I was imagining lol
fair mirage
i think glyph said u could alternate but really that'd probably be super inefficient to constantly be trying to recast it
fleet pulsar
This Brawl has been such a life saver for returning players
Just farming Honor and renown
blissful belfry
2 kyrian druid on 3s waste 1 whole leggo and bond
fair mirage
taking one alt from 230 to 259 and the other from 180 to 250
brain drain brawl but the honor is dece
fleet pulsar
2 screens OP
fair mirage
ya actually
fleet pulsar
Brawl on one, Line of Duty on the other
Cap a base, afk till game over
Rinse repeat
safe heart
You guys like pvp ?
fair mirage
perhaps
tropic schooner
thats always trouble
fair mirage
me having my first coffee in weeks
vague blade
Is kyrian decent for resto?
fair mirage
both of my healers made unpleasant noises when i asked
something about dispel protection
tiny oar
Is kyrian decent for resto?
Can make it with with a pumper dh bond in 2s but wouldn't recommend in 3s. Next ssn who knows
fair mirage
and fleshcraft
tiny oar
Yea necro is just so good sadly
vague blade
Sad
safe heart
vague blade
Gz, Glad
fair mirage
Grats 
tiny oar
Legendary enji keep blasting
safe heart
Thanks ๐
obtuse ice
Gratzzz
safe heart
Now to do it all over again next season in half the games
fair mirage
literally just the extension one yeah
obtuse bramble
Graatz
tiny oar
$nobully
last owlBOT
median shell
hey everyone ๐
I currently play DH with a feral in 3v3s. My partner noticed there is a slight shift towards kyrian for feral in 3s. Is this potentially a better alternative for necrolord feral in our comp? Ive heard good things about kindered spirits' interaction with DH
Edit: healer resto druid necro
any thoughts appreciated
obtuse bramble
If you think your DH (if he's necro) pumps like a madman it's a good option to make him way stronger.
You'll lose a lot of sustained damage in favor of way more sustained for the DH, You'll gain a bit of burst.
I think kyrian Ferals by themselves are not that threatening, but a well played DH can make up for that.
Typically you currently see nencro DH with a kyrian Boomie. But I guess Feral can work, too.
(2.2k Noob perspective here)
median shell
If you think your DH (if he's necro) pumps like a madman it's a good option to ...
I appreciate the response greatly and will show him your thoughts ๐
boreal sequoia
i just returned to game and can i just have a quick recap about balance druid pvp which covenant which leggos and your thoughts
safe heart
There's a new s tier comp which is kyrian boomie, empowering necro dh with rsham
It's OP and that's what you'll want to play
Make the kindred affinity legendary
@boreal sequoia
Empower him then unload all ur starsurges and you'll crush ppl
boreal sequoia
aww thank you kind sir
safe heart
Enjoy your glad mount
meager basin
Does master Shapeshifter work again? or is it still broken?
safe heart
was it broken
eternal ginkgo
i just returned to game and can i just have a quick recap about balance druid pv...
Keep in mind we'll have to recraft covenant legos in 9.2 so I wouldn't make an expensive one for the rest of this season
viscid remnant
damn
did face die
@tiny oar where is face
@royal hornet2face
wat
no elpatron no face2face this server lost too many real ones
viscid remnant
i do not know
try doing @ elpatron @ face2face
they are gone
well elpatron is tianton but he never talks
so elpatron is gone
stone breach
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viscid remnant
stark plover
Are there thoughts on the new trinkets in 9.2 for Feral
viscid remnant
They seem quite cool.
obtuse ice
Groschat
blissful belfry
yes
lavish pagoda
surreal heron
he did
tropic schooner
it was his thyme to go
stone breach
tiny oar
tiny oar
Idk blame kitch
surreal heron
tiny oar
It's so weird u cant even search them in msgs anymore after someone leaves
jolly void
does boomkin have more bursty or sustained damage profile in arena?
tiny oar
Every spec in this game is bursty rn lol
surreal heron
It's so weird u cant even search them in msgs anymore after someone leaves
Yeah, you have to use their ID
jolly void
Every spec in this game is bursty rn lol
I mean can boomkin rot people down, or do you mostly go for 1m setups and then just chill
tiny oar
Yeah, you have to use their ID
Oo ok
amber snow
does boomkin have more bursty or sustained damage profile in arena?
Boomkin is for buffing & healing DH ... do some dots as well if you like ๐
stoic cove
so what are we thinking covenant for pvp feral next season?
viscid remnant
The good one
vague blade
I wanted to ask because this thing is troubling me, what food or drinks can you eat in arena except conjure refreshment?
vague blade
The water?
obtuse bramble
Yes
obtuse bramble
so what are we thinking covenant for pvp feral next season?
I'll test Necro and Kyrian. Necro to enhance the giga dot and Kyrian to have a working double leggo setup.
NF could work as well, but I don't know if the burst will be worth it
Since hp pools will be higher
stoic cove
I'll test Necro and Kyrian. Necro to enhance the giga dot and Kyrian to have a w...
Right but nf with the aura mastery pvp trinket gives you so much more uptime on first and third convoke. I prefer necro, especially with the potential from zerk bleed with frenzy too but unsure if itโll balance both covenants to preference.
amber snow
support class
orchid badge
So when exactly does the current arena season end? My googling skills must suck, cause i can't find it.
vagrant tiger
RIP necro feral
Was fun while it lasted
Iโve heard the same but am curious as to the reasoning behind it. What did they change to hurt it so badly?
safe heart
It's not that they changed it , it's that the cov lego for nl is useless so in the 2 lego meta , the other cov legos are actually good so you get value where nl wont
vagrant tiger
Ah gotcha
safe heart
So where kyrian and nf make gains nl stands to remain neutral at best
rustic thorn
In jungle couldnโt nl still be the play because most BM hunters are venthyr?
I know Kyrian double leggo would be great if BM was necro but I donโt see many
Havenโt tested so I could be wrong here but the NL leggo putting adaptive swarm on multiple targets for the new bleed that applies to all targets near you could be really nice
safe heart
well you wouldnt be able to use draught anymore
and theres no consistancy
plus necro mm is becoming a thing so i could easily see kyrian feral empowering necro mm with nf disc becoming the new meta jungle
necro will be fine early on tho
itll be a more bursty set up version of the jungle we play now
itll kinda end up depending on how much more powerful kyrian / nf get using 2 legos vs NL effectively using 1
jolly void
is LI only taken with necrolord feral or is it taken regardless of cov?
safe heart
LI is necrolord only
because draught empowers it
the other cov's benefit more from the increased bite damage
jolly void
do you ever press cat thrash as feral?
safe heart
occasionally
i would avoid pushing it outside a clear cast if at all possible
it does 0 damage but can contribute to TfB before a go
safe heart
20 seconds later tho
tardy hare
Yes
Essentially just shred
But if u r fried idiot like me who presses it kinda often
Its kinda whatever
Just dont use it too often if you're going to use it at all
jolly void
thanks, I'm trying to sort out space on my bars haha
I thought maybe I could macro moonfire when LI is taken and thrash when it's not but sounds like you would use both on their own
viscid remnant
safe heart
my rule is only during clearcasts for thrash unless im playing BT
then obv ill press to proc bt
safe heart
Bring them back
stone breach
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winter flint
What's kyrian feral opener look like?
safe heart
Rake stun, empower + tf , ff , zerk, bite spam
winter flint
What's ff
safe heart
Feral frenzy
winter flint
Kk ty. No rip?
safe heart
Nah don't rip
You can rip after the go but don't waste the combos while berserk is running
tardy hare
I thought maybe I could macro moonfire when LI is taken and thrash when it's not...
Yes for getting stealthers out for example
fair mirage
Kindred Affinityโs (Kyrian Runecarving Power) stat bonus for the Druid reduced to 6% (was 8%) and the stat bonus for their partner reduced to 3% (was 8%).
AAAAAAAAA
forest kite
Byebye Kyrian finally ๐
amber snow
that's a massive nerf ... shows how abusable it is atm
safe heart
im glad because i really didnt wanna go back kyrian next patch
its like semi fun but it feels horrible
amber snow
the best thing about your class being 'i can buff someone else real gud' is lame
safe heart
yeah, it sounds cooler than it is
realistically you just do 1/4th warriors damage and cant do anything in between go's
that lego was really just a warrior buff disguised
fair mirage
queuing with kyrian druid on warr was fun
safe heart
yeah im sure the warriors love it
haughty compass
Be like me, 2100 forever convoke enjoyer
native epoch
So what yโall think the best covenant will be for boomkin in 9.2?
fair mirage
hmm probably kyrian?
fickle oak
wait so... the feral tier set nerf is just for aoe ๐
stone breach
aoe on 9+ targets
so it nerfs them on that one pull from the psybearslat video
and nothing else
random patrol
eh I'm staying kyrian cause I like the playstyle
never was a fan of convoke
plus you can swap covs now so mehhhhh
polar nymph
DH's on suicide watch
eternal ginkgo
eh I'm staying kyrian cause I like the playstyle
Can you quickly summarize playstyle? I love necro but feels bad to not be able to multi dot. Kyrian to me felt like it was just as squishy as nightfae without the threat of killing somebody after trinkets.
Oh I'm dumb. I was thinking feral not boom. But yeah that makes sense!
haughty compass
1min boat convoke returns bros
eternal ginkgo
And I assume I just hold TF and FF for the kindred to line them up?
jolly void
TF is 30s so you would do every other tf with kyrian
arctic pollen
whats your necro feral opener look like
safe heart
Tiger fury in stealth, feral frenzy swarm, berserk, rip, moonfire, shred for bites, refresh rake before berserk falls bite at 5 combos as long as rip has good duration
obsidian acorn
Tiger fury in stealth, feral frenzy swarm, berserk, rip, moonfire, shred for bit...
You feral frenzy out of stealth? 
safe heart
sorry i meant rake stun in between that
obsidian acorn
:ThumbsUp:
safe heart
tiger fury, rake stun, proceed
obtuse bramble
I typically use swarm before FF to have the first dot tick empowered too, as even at close range, swarm has a travel time ๐ค
brave venture
pretty much all of the high rated ferals open with
tiger fury rake -> frenzy -> swarm -> rip (or maim if you need restun)-> moonfire
fair mirage
Yeah, I originally swarmed first and it tilted my druid healer so I swapped it around.
stoic cove
So weโre thinking nf feral is back in next season?
brave venture
it doesnt feel like theres a huge difference to me
swarm has a slow gcd is the only main dif
fair mirage
NF playstyle is unfun and I don't know any mages.
Actually, eh. Maybe it'd be fine with like mm and hpriest.
obtuse bramble
pretty much all of the high rated ferals open with
okay. aaand what's the reason for that?
I am genuinely curious about the order
"all high rated ferals are doing it" doesn't cut it for me
Sorry if I come across a bit rude
I did not mean to
but where's the advantage?
It's even easier to align the second TF with Swarm if you swarm after TF
brave venture
i dont know what the reason is for it
im not a top rated feral druid
i just see axtin, tonyferal, snupy all do that
obtuse bramble
maybe so that there's more uptime from swarm on the RIP portion? ... dunno
FF also has a big dot component
๐ค
tardy hare
Its because
We literally dont care
Pressing either before the other isnt gonna ruin or change our games
Therefore we just press them
I think i do something along the lines of TF, rake, feral frenzy, swarm, rip, moonfire
Swarm when my healer ccs enemy healer tho
Not before
obtuse bramble
plausible
still I don't get it value wise
FF is the biggest dot in your lineup, so you don't want to miss out on a swarm-boosted tick there
I think
obsidian acorn
Press buttons
????
Gladiator
:ThumbsUp:
Why is that emote broken
This discord used to be cool 
viscid remnant
george mutton
obsidian acorn
Who
surreal heron
Why is that emote broken
mobile doesn't like emotes with the same name, if you edit it and try again it'll work
obsidian acorn
It's the cat one in the list
surreal heron
ik
obsidian acorn
What
obtuse bramble
Moistig
surreal heron
mobile discord is dumb
magic crystal
Am thinking of getting back into pvp. How long would it roughly take to gear so I stop getting rekt in 1 to 2 shots. I've completed all campaigns, cov etc so that's done
somber hazel
FF is the biggest dot in your lineup, so you don't want to miss out on a swarm-b...
its better to ,miss out on one tick of swarmed buff FF then miss a gcd while waiting for FF to finish
obtuse bramble
hrm, but isn't that the same concept?
last patrol
is draught the lego choice for feral 2v2 and 3v3 in 9.2? *as necrolord
obtuse bramble
I mean, casting Swarm after FF wastes a global of all the ticks
vague blade
Am thinking of getting back into pvp. How long would it roughly take to gear so ...
Ilvl?
viscid remnant
Treefiddy
junior plover
face 
junior plover
I mean, casting Swarm after FF wastes a global of all the ticks
The FF dot takes a single gcd to start ticking afaik
if you press swarm immediately after you don't miss a buff on any of the ticks
At least I remember fuji saying that like a year back 
edgy oxide
for resto i assume necro is still going to be the play in 9.2 or will NF be better with 2 leggos since thiers seems to be a bit better than necro leggo
edgy oxide
thats what i thought, just thinking about the differences in 2 leggo gains for resto. kyrian getting nerfed makes sense since it was gonna be a big problem
safe heart
necro cov lego could actually be considered okay i think for resto
haughty compass
Necro moonkin might be fun in BGs
tiny oar
yea necro prob still gonna be default but i could see nfae convoke VI working in sumthing like RMD
serene loom
Hey guys, how much honour do you get for RBG wins and losses?
fair mirage
a lot for wins but it's easy for it to not be worth because rbg groups will sit around for 15 minutes waiting for that perfect 10th person
serene loom
do you know roughly how much for wins and losses on avrg?
safe heart
like 800 i think
for a win
like 300 for a loss
iirc
your first win of the day will be like 1k+
eternal ginkgo
My last two rbgs: 1k for win, 420 for loss.
Another loss was only about 200 (but we were stomped and basically sat it out) and another win was 1400. May have been first win of the day
worthy belfry
best class to add to rdruid/arms/x 3's?
bold edge
Pally or monk
viscid remnant
literally almost any spec
bold edge
Any news on feral pvp? Like changes to what legos/covenant we use in 9.2?
fair mirage
kyrian one nerfed rather bigly
old temple
I've begun playing guardian and am wondering what the ideal 2 leggo set up will be in 9.2
I play feral os so I imagine nf will still be good for convoke but not sure
safe heart
i mean
assuming youre talking rbgs
any reason you wouldnt play CS + legacy
or if you wanted to truly 1 build it
you could play CS + barkskin lego and youll get pretty good value from both specs with that set up
CS+barkskin sounds like what ill be playing since kyrian died
amber snow
Convoke is a good defensive cd even if it gets stopped instantly from the soulbind, twice as many sounds good to me ... Legacy too strong not to use
untold tapir
do you know roughly how much for wins and losses on avrg?
U get more on alliance. Also win alot more in general
The alliance buff stacks with the other honor buff
orchid badge
N00b Resto question - usually boomie but a BM friend wants me to do resto for 2s. I got my Necro renown up to 80. Question is - in 2s, when should I use Adaptive Swarm? Use on my friend when I've got hots rolling, or just always use it on CD?
tiny oar
N00b Resto question - usually boomie but a BM friend wants me to do resto for 2s...
If you have one target that's mostly being hit you can pair it with cen ward + lifebloom 2 rejuvs and extend them all once CW procs with VI, good to do this as dmg cds are being used. Not likely in 2s but if you're fighting a more rot dmg comp sp lock x etc, you can spread swarm and cw between 2 targets to help keep them both up.
civic ore
What Feral Leggo to combine with 1 min Convoke if I just wanna be a ConvokeDaddy 1 shotter in 9.2?
safe heart
I'd go barkskin to be tankier but frenzybrand could be interesting
Eye of symmetry is meh but kinda okay
vagrant tiger
Anyone know a good resource to learn more synergy/strategy with arms/resto in 2s? Guild mate warrior is new into pvp and Iโm trying to run up the rankings with him. I just donโt know much about arms (and learning resto, usually did feral). My google skills are coming up lacking. Hoping for some vod with commentary/pauses/explanations.
stone breach
Anyone know a good resource to learn more synergy/strategy with arms/resto in 2s...
flop's rdruid guide in the pins is from 9.0, but is probably 95% still good information
vagrant tiger
Ok thanks - thought maybe that was out of date.
safe heart
The only stuff that's different would just be learning the current meta comps really
His guide is extremely thorough
Play necro, pve heal, stun clone healer on his storm bolt
fair mirage
Yeah, having an idea of when your partner is going to stun (in this case bolt and/or spear) then kind of syncing up your stun>clone is a pretty good one. Basically only going for CC when you can reliably do so, are covered, etc.
Don't be the LFG terror who lets hots fall off then leaps and dr bashes somebody and gets killed for it.
grizzled folio
Boomy leggo going forward? Thatโs not a covenant one?
timid garnet
any addons out there that granulize name plate display? So I can like disable demo lock minions but can keep totems on
fair mirage
threatplates then just do custom ones?
can do stuff like hide imps and make totems bigger etc
vague blade
When using natures swiftness with soul of the forest should I use a rejuv or a insta top from a regrowth,
?
somber hazel
When using natures swiftness with soul of the forest should I use a rejuv or a i...
Ideally they have a rejuv on them already. If the regrowth wont overheal by a huge amount then use regrowth
Dampening % is an important factor
timid garnet
can do stuff like hide imps and make totems bigger etc
thx mate
forest kite
which covenant in pvp as a resto druid?
obtuse bramble
Necro
amber pond
With the 9.2 second leggo, does Feral just go NF, or is the Necro leggo smart enough to avoid incidental snare/sheep breaks if it splits?
At first glance, it seems like effectively giving up a leggo to go Necro if Swarm isnt smart, but I have no experience to evaluate it properly
safe heart
the swarm wont break cc but it still sucks
so yes if you go necro youre going to remain net neutral at best
forest kite
Kyrian Balance atm . Im kinda bad and want to improve, what are some good 2s partners for me ?
fair mirage
finding an rsham or rdruid then grabbing any of the billion demon hunters and just queuing 3v3
fleet sonnet
Boomie NF competitive with venthry in high mythic + next patch?
timid garnet
Kyrian boomie getting fat nerf right
twilit stump
rare willow
there arent any. on live the only things that work are Ring of Peace and Thunderstorm with the Travelling Storms talent (that no ele shaman will ever take) in 9.2 those are being removed along with buffing resto druids in 50 different ways, pretty much cementing them as the best healer for the foreseeable future.
the only good thing is that tranquility doesnt really heal much, so after the rdruid blows bubble tranq you can either kill after it ends, or get them on the next GO provided they dont have trinket back by then, or auto frenzy back by then
safe heart
if you male them or have bleeds on them before they start channeling, they can die in tranq
rare willow
bleeds really work? ive had full rows of dots on rdruid in tranquility bubble but i guess i havent noticed them actually dealing damage through it
fair mirage
It's more of a stationary turtle than a bubble.
safe heart
im pretty sure they do but they are healing themselves at the same time so
austere mesa
Can you channel fleshcraft while turtle ?
lusty totem
Hey, I recently try feral necro and have lot of fun . I only play v2 with a hpriest and asking myself who benefit more from the infusion now ? (Was NF and never Ask myself because of haste meeeh)
wheat atlas
do we get more honor from bgs as a healer? fresh 60 and trying to get a full pvp set.
brittle hound
what is going to best for Feral leggos in 9.2?? is kyrian or NF going to be the move?
tough meadow
i think kyrian is getting a nerf
tough meadow
idk if games will be damp in 9,2 lol
judging by the looks of some classes
have my eyes on WW monks with their FoF damage
rustic thorn
Venthyr feral most based
austere mesa
Whatโs the go to cov for balance in arena for now and 9.2 so far? Also leggo
viscid remnant
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safe heart
Kyrian, kindred affinity for 3s
austere mesa
Kyrian, kindred affinity for 3s
What about for 2s ?
safe heart
I think it's still kyrian but I'm not 100% sure about the lego
I'm a feral player
In 3s defo kyrian tho with necro dh
austere mesa
Thanks !
copper acorn
for pvp in general is it ok to go with night fae as feral?
i was thinking going necro but i am not sure
safe heart
yeah nf is fine
hushed ember
@austere mesa grab a disc/holy and pump as venthyr with PI if you wanna have fun
austere mesa
Ty
fair mirage
People still figuring out stuff in the current season and people hope for a guide as to what'll be good next season after a big trinket change and addition of three dozen new tier set bonuses, not to mention the covenant legendaries ๐คช
haughty compass
Night Bae
halcyon rune
Hello there, I have a question, I'm a necro feral with 36% mastery 38% vers, everything's socked vers, should I swap for some mastery ? (in pvp)
grizzled folio
Necro boomy? Is it a thing
grizzled folio
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grizzled folio
Would venthry boomy be a thing in 9.2?