ye might be good
#pvp
lime light
edgy shale
that was my thought as well
junior plover
Could be pretty good
lime light
nah not rly as i said, u need a lot of mods to make MS big
edgy shale
wtf is mods
junior plover
But it's a giga commit
lime light
modifiers
viscid remnant
yeah the crit mod from kyrian legendary
junior plover
To 1 strat
viscid remnant
idijet
edgy shale
BRUH
viscid remnant
To 1 strat
i mean sure
lime light
in pvp
edgy shale
what is the necro leggo?
lime light
more str i believe
viscid remnant
^
edgy shale
kyrian leggo sounds better
junior plover
ur 1 strat is to spear 2 ppl and global them
Thing is
lime light
idk on paper nothing crazy
viscid remnant
ventil legendary and fd
lime light
imo most of the warriors will play reflect
junior plover
Whether he runs that leggo
lime light
baseline vs most
viscid remnant
no
junior plover
Hm
junior plover
That's true
viscid remnant
u have no valid opinion
junior plover
But my logic is impeccable
viscid remnant
no its not
junior plover
I am a god
viscid remnant
ur delusional polish man doing cocaine to get rid of his depression
lime light
maybe tier sets will tell more
edgy shale
feral tier set seems good for pvp
edgy shale
bruh u noob
edgy shale
oh, i see
u have to pve first like month
then they are letting u get it thru pvp
i think u get it thru vault specifically?
edgy shale
yeah, they are determined to not make pvers pvp, which i think is overall for the best even tho I don't mind it personally
clear pulsar
Right now what it seems to be is
lime light
how is it not bad
edgy shale
except ill eternally bitch about 2100 players getting a 233 weapon before limit even downed sire
clear pulsar
Tier pieces are from raid
You can proc a thing on vault from any content that turns any item of the right slot into the raid tier item
lime light
yes?
junior plover
It's not bad compared to what I expected
lime light
or yes?
edgy shale
yes el patronious you are correct
clear pulsar
Then you will be able to craft/buy that with some currency when the new system thing is fleshed out
The next patch little gimmick
edgy shale
im gonna get my 4 set then go into epic BGs and own people
junior plover
I expected them to have it raid locked
edgy shale
just walk into 30 people and press zerk
edgy shale
optimistic i see
junior plover
So plenty of time to get it 
edgy shale
how long was the time period between slands getting announced and released?
junior plover
how long was the time period between slands getting announced and released?
November 2019 announce
edgy shale
junior plover
It was a full year
lime light
every single spec i touch is insan'ist
junior plover
Wow that's bad
edgy shale
so this patch is 100% gonna be over a year then lol
junior plover
But I'm sure they'll have 10.0 ready for Christmas as they always do
clear pulsar
So it's not terrible
It'd be better if it was raid locked and inactive in pvp lol
junior plover
Copium
junior plover
It'd be better if it was raid locked and inactive in pvp lol
Ye I guess but tier sets are cool so 😎
edgy shale
u want sets overall inactive in pvp? that would be lame
viscid remnant
XDXDXD
X
edgy shale
more balanced though obviously
viscid remnant
lime light
there is legit no good option for them
no tier sets = cry
tier sets = cry
no templates = cry
junior plover
Truth
viscid remnant
templates = happy
edgy shale
once a month?
how about once an xpac
make warrior not roken as fuck
for 10 seconds
HOWA BOUT THAT
junior plover
Stage of grief
edgy shale
exactly we're literally desensitized to it cuz its been like this so long
edgy shale
but imagine....warrior not being so broken
viscid remnant
i shall say before nerfing warrior delete rmp and i willbe happy in my life
edgy shale
game could be....fun....
junior plover
I'd rather play rmp than warrior that presses W and can't die
edgy shale
altho rMP would def become too op
junior plover
At least i can kill the rogue
edgy shale
nerf war+RMP and wow is fixed
edgy shale
nerf BM and leave feral alone
viscid remnant
scoundrel comp
i want the ladder to be cool not the same 3 comps
imagine u face 1 day
outlaw ele
or osmething
IDK man
somethign cool
u feel me
junior plover
Feral Spriest Rsham is hidden op
edgy shale
spriest also prob becomes overtuned if war is nerfed but like watever ill deal with a new op for a bit
lime light
s+++ comp rn on mid tier ladder around 2.4-2.7k
is DH + boom
by far
and rmp as usual
bm jungle getting fucked by dh boom pretty much
edgy shale
ya i've been seeing that
lime light
till bm procs and kills someone
edgy shale
i don't really get wat makes it so good but
edgy shale
does dh boom somehow counter warrior? just no good target for war to hit?
i don't understand it
viscid remnant
its just
unhealable dam
whenever kyrian presses link
and dh does like 7k dps
and cant die
viscid remnant
because eyebeam crits proc ret wings more often
edgy shale
but why isn't it just war/boomy instead. just cuz dh buff + i dont even know?
junior plover
Rmp < dh boom < ret warr < rmp
lime light
ye true
junior plover
Balance
viscid remnant
and u have freed for rootyb
edgy shale
or even war/dh
lime light
everything wih boom is played rn
edgy shale
maybe they dr too much cc
fair mirage
i feel like retwarr might have trouble with all the clones
lime light
but dh boom is just comp with a lot of cc and pure unhealable pve dmg
fair mirage
also good grief sharpen is brutal for balance
viscid remnant
ret warr that plays with rsham i wouldnt say
edgy shale
can they out pve shadowplay?
viscid remnant
depends
edgy shale
maybe just not that much splay on ladder anyway
fair mirage
thankfully
edgy shale
I kinda wanna play some aff or maybe destro but the idea of a warrior just sitting on me the entire time makes it not so appealing
viscid remnant
+++++
safe heart
Buff feral
viscid remnant
iam afraid of when more ppl start playing outlaw
its dh lvl disgusting dmg i feel like
edgy shale
buff their energy regen by 100% in pvp, but nerf bear form tankiness by 2%
that would make feral balanced
fair mirage
also feels immune to physical dam
edgy shale
yes
safe heart
Hell yes
fair mirage
male worgen outlaw pistol shot my mw for like 20k the other day
viscid remnant
ye
edgy shale
they should remake that one legendary to give u 5 cp and 50 energy for 10 bites after u press tf
viscid remnant
its a disgusting class ppl dont play cuz they cope
junior plover
No u don't understand rogue in shadow lands is trash ever since they overnerfed it before s1 started
Meanwhile 4 out of top10 in s1 was rogue
edgy shale
rogue players are just better than u. built different!!
viscid remnant
ye i mean why would u try outlaw when u just play rmp
safe heart
Sap off blind should be fucking illegal
viscid remnant
no point
viscid remnant
Sap off blind should be fucking illegal
sap off kidney
junior plover
I remember him being stuck at 1.6k as feral
junior plover
But he had 0 gear so idk
edgy shale
i know the game isn't balanced around 1v1 at all, but trying to 1v1 a rogue is the funniest shit
viscid remnant
I liked the pikaboo feral arc
nobody cares because hes american that plays broken class in mordor mmr
REAL and true and not FAKE
junior plover
True i only cared to see him fail
Because obviously feral is spec for the biggest of brains
edgy shale
imagine a rogue player actually trying to fake cast though
viscid remnant
not sigma moment
junior plover
True i will remove that part of my head
edgy shale
feral requires skill from many spec!!! big brain
junior plover
I mean top rogues are really good at kicking fake casts
lime light
if u sap out off blind
viscid remnant
maybe u could stop urself from falling
lime light
u deserves
junior plover
I would imagine they can fake cast
lime light
to win
junior plover
After a bit of practice
edgy shale
that makse sense on paper, but these monkeys have never had to cast anything in their lives
junior plover
Bandage
edgy shale
used to press 1 button blind / kidney job done
junior plover
Gg
edgy shale
tiny oar
I had a dream that a nsfw pvp channel was added to dreamgrove
It was a fucking nightmare 
Yea defo not lol
tiny oar
entrance pass $200
Do u accept payment in egirl feet pics?
I can't wait for worldofpvp to go absolutely ape shit crazy
fair mirage
hm that is interesting
rustic thorn
Does Wicked Claws stack with hunter's raptor effect?
rustic thorn
Thank you
haughty compass
Yea. I’m out til 10.0.
edgy shale
is that next season? why dont u just hop on the dh+boomy train
fair mirage
already nerfed via trinket change imo
will probably fall back off a bit
yes i haven't really tested
i actually don't even know for sure that the 40% bonus works 
i just run at people
throwback to bfa when we didn't know that sockets made us weaker until like five months into the fourth season 
fair mirage
i think i sat down for a few hours to queue with my partner and after like the 7th guardian/havoc tank trinket game we're like hey what if we did literally anything else
like we won the matches but mentally we lost
fair mirage
yeah bfa s2 i think and s4 were fun
awkwaned was so much fun fro pathing
so many weird routes
clear pulsar
Now in shadowlands we get 3 seasons with the same affix diff flavors
Big enemy shows up at this spot, kill and gain damage buff, proceed
fair mirage
yeah 
tropic schooner
yeah bfa s2 i think and s4 were fun
personally I found bfa s2 one of the worst affixes
s4 bfa was the best tho
personally think Id rank s4 bfa > s1 shadowlands > (fairly big gap) > s2 shadowlands > s3 bfa >s2 bfa > s1 bfa prolly
edgy shale
o wtf i thought u meant pvp
edgy shale
ya i figured it out lol i read backwards
but ya s4 bfa was goated cuz u got to skip annoying ass pulla
tropic schooner
yes
fair mirage
bigly aoe
tropic schooner
I think it was horrible
tropic schooner
like usually wasnt an affix and a lot of people played worse due to only wanting to pad
yea infested was only one I ranked worse than reaping
tropic schooner
ya i figured it out lol i read backwards
pvp is so hard for me to rank, like bfa had nice times but the gear in bfa or gear abuses kinda made stuff bad too
like tank trinkets s1/s2 (didnt play s3) crucible gear s2, corruption gear s4
clear pulsar
personally think Id rank s4 bfa > s1 shadowlands > (fairly big gap) > s2 shadowl...
I dont understand how one individual can see prideful as the 2nd best seasonal affix
tropic schooner
so unironically Id say shadowlands s2 > SL s1 > bfa stuff in some order
clear pulsar
And I dont respect your right to have that opinion
tropic schooner
I liked prideful
made pulls interesting
made you plan around it
was a solid challenge
thats s2
bfa
early season 1 there was an exploit with low gear too
in arenas
which was used
but by the time xot trolled people
that was fixed
at least for the most part
clear pulsar
Nzoth portals > bwonsamdi > tormentors > prideful > ghunies > emissaries
tropic schooner
you did say oce already
yea remember that happening a few times in arenas too very early on
obtuse ice
20k seems a lot
tropic schooner
also day 1 streaking stars
was fun
for some reason they slapped a 50% nerf on it
no clue why
fair mirage
you did say oce already
something about aussies is just a wee bit off, can't put my finger on it
fair mirage
yeah gravity messing with stuff
fair mirage
most mentally stable rbg player
clear pulsar
That guy's name? Voodooray
random patrol
I max out at 4-5 once a week
thank you
it was some trainee in oasis that quit after awhile I can't rem his username
rustic thorn
is Lunar Inspiration really that much better than Sabertooth? Rip auto refreshing and not having to worry on top of the instant damage feels nice - but if its really bad i wont use it
clear pulsar
You can play a different covenant than necro if you dont wanna lean into dot maintenance
fair mirage
is Lunar Inspiration really that much better than Sabertooth? Rip auto refreshin...
have u tried kyrian
it's bretty gud
clear pulsar
You could put it that way
Sabertooth doesnt make rip 'autorefresh' like that was legion
LI is just better you have 2 extra modifiers that affect it but not bite
junior crystal
ok im reaaally new on pvp side of the wow, but is guardian druid legit for pvp ? coz im mainly playing guardian on pve
i mean for arena
fair mirage
i haven't seen it more than maybe once this season
it might be okay but all the other specs are known to be good so
yeah
at least in bfa it was a big enough ball of stats
now it's just eh
reminds me i wanted to mess around with prot warr
edgy shale
fataphore has 0 chill
tiny oar
I'd have 0 chill fighting rmx too tbf
safe heart
did he mean rbgs
rich crag
Tauren is now 34 🙂 Question, would kyrian gimp your feral in 1v1s and stuff ? I guess NL still the king of that hmm 🙂 ?
fair mirage
you can bond with yourself fro 15% increased dam
NL better but kyrian is functional solo
rich crag
@fair mirage Thanks 🙂
tiny oar
Legendary
shadow edge
Guess that is with the pulsar lego? Thought dreamweaver would be funny too to double dip on surge reduction
🤤
clear pulsar
Ready to show tian that NA rating >> EU rating
tiny oar
🙏
grand mesa
Ayyy Grats
tropic schooner
only if you would buy them from good old Entenbank
he sells the best legendaries
tiny oar
Ayyy Grats
Ty puzzle 🥰
clear pulsar
Entenbank could be a homie and help the homies out on their new accounts
But no, entenbank is pure greed
clear pulsar
Little capitalist PIG
clear pulsar
Ah yes learned from BAER
viscid remnant
I shall root out all communist scum
tiny oar
Not fair I am not that fat
tardy hare
tiny oar
junior plover
clear pulsar
tiny oar
Wow a happy ending love to see it
Were all blessed to be alive today love u all fam
🙏 💚
junior plover
<a:peepobusstop:870271938092744725>
Ok but why is there an amogus sign at a bus stop
tiny oar
Ok but why is there an amogus sign at a bus stop
It's to signify that suicide is some sussy imposter shit and that your existence has intrinsic value 🥰
mellow granite
pearl dawn
Yo, is there a way to cheese the shackles quest?
Korthia's been completely empty for days
Like any alliance to feed kills or whatever?
mellow granite
Join groups and it’s usually done in like 10 minutes
If it’s dead soon as I join a group all of a sudden there’s hundreds of alliance running around
tiny oar
@clear pulsar translate?
clear pulsar
lime light
ruskis are bis
tiny oar
EUers are saveage
mellow granite
There are some interesting peeps on EU 
obtuse ice
Eu best
lime light
i dont see anything wrong
mortal jetty
I have trouble finding info about guardian druids for RBG's.. what trinkets should one use? And what leggo are best suited?
mellow granite
Legacy of the Sleeper seems to be very popular
mortal jetty
That one only drops from 1 room in torghast right?
lime light
u can rng any room in corridor
amber snow
I have trouble finding info about guardian druids for RBG's.. what trinkets shou...
https://murlok.io/druid/guardian/rbg#trinkets ... sleeper is ridiculously good, everyone runs emblem/medallion
pearl dawn
so I'm playing druid dps in pvp with friends, rsham and DH
do I play feral or balance?
and what covenent is meta atm? ❤️ just returning
with the kyrian legendary?
boomy DH seems really strong
any good videos on the kyrian play style, or on that comp, like a guide or such?
fair mirage
idk how to deal with arms warriors caving my head in
then i queue up on my arms warr and cave in all the moonkin heads
sharpen deletion when
fair mirage
big ms in general felt hard although in the case of sp we can just felblade/surge the little bugger
arms is just 6 seconds of pain
although was with hpriest at the time
edgy shale
gg, legendary
fair mirage
rps was aactually kind of rough now that i think about it
kidney bomb psyfiend opener then hemotoxin out
played a total of 80 balance druid matches now so just kind of drawing a mental blank in matches like that
it seemed better to me than soul
also imagine it amps the 4pc next patch
edgy shale
p sure war the presence of the 3 closest specs combined
rich crag
Go watch the latest supatease video for some good pointers on how to play DH / Moonkin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avy_h6WxzZY
edgy shale
lime light
Donkeys
If u think savage better
2p is connected with soul
U need soul
U want soul
tiny oar
best legendary for pvp that can also be used for pve?
Why is your profile pic a osrs zulrah mutagen lol
lime light
Stop
safe heart
If you're boomie or feral, celestial spirits
If your resto verdant is the lego for everything
Maybe not raiding but raiding sux
tiny oar
if u are poor then ur problem
Lol Davider really said poor ppl get out me and my 225 verdant will leave dw
tiny oar
iam not in favor of delusional people in this channel
Lol yep me too buddy 🙏
edgy shale
legendary
tiny oar
Ppl came in here last ssn like "guardian aff oath of the elder druid is gud???" Like no and delete ur character for even thinking that
Sry not sry
tiny oar
and also REAL
Probably one of the reasons why we will never be orange names
tropic schooner
Isn't every druid an orange name
tiny oar
Iam more whte
X to doubt I am a fucking vampire bro skins is whiter than snow
The doctor loves me tho knows where to stick needle in instantly
tropic schooner
Should've named my new slowpoke after u
Slowpoke is a nice dude
Can have lengthy conversations with him
edgy shale
orange name means ur brainwashed by thyme and warden
this is facts.
thyme is connected to all orange names. the only way to get orange name is a ritual that links you the hivemind that thyme controls. They drill holes into ur brain. Thyme is the queen and all obey him. Warden is his attack dog
tiny oar
hmm yes it's all making sense now
Dyneslott challenged thymes power and so thyme murdered him and consumed him into the hivemind
surreal heron
surreal heron
mustard is good
edgy shale
they won't let me tell you things
tiny oar
Lol wardened
tiny oar
mustard is good
The fact that you can say this and ipod got wardened proofs our theory
surreal heron
lmao
edgy shale
absolutely yes
tiny oar
Legendary
Glyph v thyme the battle of our age
I queued some turbo in EU mordor yesterday we fight ret warr 1 game gates open, ret pops wings, war warbreaker avatar necro banners, my warr dies in 2 globals without parrying
Gg good match go next
spice juniper
tiny oar
<a:PopcornBAER:810087840461225985>
Did u understand a word of that baer? Lol
viscid remnant
tiny oar
Which is BAER's experience of pvp
👍
spice juniper
agile dagger
Mount secured
tiny oar
Mount secured
Legendary fam keep owning 🙏
tropic schooner
are you saying isnt prime druid view?!
agile dagger
I refuse to use astral form, og moonkin form owns
tropic schooner
glyph of stars is a crime
tropic schooner
even cats know
and bears
they owl weave
not weird blue transparent person weave
clear pulsar
LOL
tiny oar
Nah glyph of stars is the only ethical option
tiny oar
Thyme??
viscid remnant
nazimods
tropic schooner
seems to be a sign
surreal heron
duplicates
viscid remnant
how is it a duplicate
surreal heron
agile dagger
I'll be honest, I dropped glyph of stars cause sometimes I dropped form and didn't realize it
agile dagger
haughty compass
Weird blue transparent person is the worst. Moonkin form is bis
surreal heron
no one was timed out, what are you on about
tiny oar
Time out my boi one more time
$._.
last owlBOT
junior plover
Very true
lilac sandal
Hey leveling a Druid atm and wonder if they’re sought for in RBGs or I should aim for tanking those?
hardy cargo
Hey leveling a Druid atm and wonder if they’re sought for in RBGs or I should ai...
Balance is good depending on comp and guardian is the only tank that should ever be ran
lilac sandal
Balance is good depending on comp and guardian is the only tank that should ever...
Thanks!
safe heart
You guys like pvp
safe heart
#FREEPATRON
amber snow
Hey leveling a Druid atm and wonder if they’re sought for in RBGs or I should ai...
3 top specs for rbgs are pretty much gdruid > sub rogue > balance
clear pulsar
No, some things are purchaseable on alts I think
Actually scratch that, it's just the socket from death's advance that buyable
On alts
The archivist one is locked per character
maiden viper
so having reached T6 on one char I can buy sockets on other chars provided I have the research
clear pulsar
No, read further than the 1st message
maiden viper
hmmm
tropic schooner
very sure thats wrong
gonna look but pretty sure you can just buy the socket/conduit stuff
tropic schooner
yea you do need the resources
maiden viper
so it still makes sense to send the 50% rep increase over to alts cause you get more research with higher tiers
tropic schooner
what
maiden viper
there is a BoA item you can send to alts once one char reaches T6 to increase rep gains by 50%. and you when you are T4-T5 you get more research drops from mobs
so if you want to be efficient, you still want the 50% rep increase on alts in order to reach T5 because you get more drops, even though you can buy the conduit/socket items already
tropic schooner
is that true with extra research drops?
like there are some quests you can do
like the sword thingies
which need some rep
the rift keys need rep
maiden viper
well distinctly remember getting a quest upgrade immediately when I hit T4 and T5 that increased the research drops
maiden viper
The quest “Relic Efficiency” offered at Tier 4 now also increases the average number of Relics that will show up as bonus drops from rares and treasures as well as how many relics show up on daily quests or in weekly reward chests. This is in addition to the current reward of a 20% chance to receive double the normal Relic Fragment drops from rares and treasures.
and “Relic Hunter” at Tier 5 that will set the final chance for double relics at 40%. Both of these new quests will also increase the average number of relics you will see as bonus drops, on daily quests or in weekly reward chests
tropic schooner
hu interesting
so if you go for the casual farm
its quite nice
if you go for hard farm
its useless
at least I think its not that useful in the rift
maiden viper
just an fyi for people grinding research for all those conduit upgrades on alts, be sure to send the rep increase token over so you reach t4/t5 faster for more relics ^^
tropic schooner
it will be nice for all the people being mad enough doing that
clear pulsar
Conduit upgrades from 226 to 252 are pure copium
maiden viper
all these stupid ass grinds that blizz introduces. level alt, run torghast until you puke, get 100-200k gold for leggs, run rifts for conduits and sockets, on top of the BIZARRE honor grind
maiden viper
well some classes scale way better with conduits than others
but I feel you
zenlyn told me conduits are very big for holy priests
for example
tropic schooner
eh
tropic schooner
rank 3 and 4 holy priest world
maiden viper
tbh I'd prolly be fine with only getting sockets
tropic schooner
dont have maxed conduits
:thinky
like it for sure is a thing you can optimize
maiden viper
funny thing, he said he was 3k before maxing out sockets and got 3.3 after maxing them out haha
just relaying what he's saying
tropic schooner
yes those priests are also around 3.4k
maiden viper
*maxing out conduits
clear pulsar
I mean yeah, I'm mostly talking about 200-252
You're a bit silly if you're buying upgrades sub 226
maiden viper
how do you see someones conduits?
clear pulsar
The armory api has the data but it doesnt show on armory page
These sites can get it tho
Check-pvp, pvpleaderboards, murlokio
maiden viper
does check-pfvp show it?
clear pulsar
Yeah mouseover them
maiden viper
ah
condensed anima sphere? I've been missing out
not saying conduits is the difference between 2100 and glad, obviously it's not. just thinking out loud
tropic schooner
but pvp very rarely small upgrades like those matter
especially cause most top pvpers have a I dont give a fuck attitude
im gonna bet if you check the top 50 players
a good chunk will have sub 262 legendaries
cause they are lazy
maiden viper
haha you think oso?
tropic schooner
I dont think its the majority but I do think you will find some yes
fair mirage
i know a few people who got their glad with a 210-235 leggo because cinders didn't sound fun
that's why it's bizarre to me seeing people bricking +8s on the forums wailing about how they have to be optimal
maiden viper
that I have to run torghast 7-8 times per leggo is DISGUSTING
fair mirage
and how they don't wanna farm sockets on their 5th mount farming alt
tropic schooner
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/blackrock/blackfirez there is one but not sure if he plays necro in arena
viscid remnant
i think he does
i say him playing with uh whats his name
the feral german guy
suffre
or maybe
iam confusing
i saw him palying with a feral
idr who
clear pulsar
Unrelated but sorta
I think the 'minmax' term is very dumb
I am minmaxing, the minmaxers
It doesnt even make sense
viscid remnant
ppl that worry about which legendary slot to craft on meanwhile theyre 1600
worrying about the wrong thing
maiden viper
well they want to give themselves the best start they can out of the things they can control
but I agree with you in general
amber snow
It doesnt even make sense
it means maximizing damage done, uptime, effectiveness & minimizing downtime, damage taken ... what's confusing?
amber snow
Rubbish conduits: -50cr, rubbish gear: -300cr, no sockets: -50cr, wrong slot legendary: -2cr, etc. Saying gear doesn't matter is as dumb as saying it's absolutely required.
amber snow
kinda, dual national now
meh, whatever the numbers are, they exist
those are also true 😉
of course there is
it's called statistics, look it up
be really skilled at the game: +1000cr
amber snow
it's not a binary ... you wanna be rated as high as possible? you should minmax AND get really good
viscid remnant
because people are mindcontrolled by cope
amber snow
nah it's because minmaxing is quick and easy to do ... getting really good takes years
tropic schooner
Rubbish conduits: -50cr, rubbish gear: -300cr, no sockets: -50cr, wrong slot leg...
think those numbers vastly overestimate conduits, sockets and slot of gear
and prolly underestimate the gear in total
unlike meta
whos a very reflected person
amber snow
think those numbers vastly overestimate conduits, sockets and slot of gear
IDK ... taking useless conduits vs. BIS ones is prolly way more than 50CR ... doesn't rly matter though, clearly some quantifiable benefit exists and if you can get it for a few hours mindless grind / want as high a CR as possible ... why not?
tropic schooner
cant see meta being chill like every time ive seen him he was even worse than lontar or drainer
and that is not all that easy
yea people should just insta stop playing with him
if he does that
tbh also not everyone can deal with people like that
I personally for sure couldnt
especially not random dudes I just jam some arenas with
Id honestly quit mid arena and have done so when ppl are flaming intensly cba with that shit playing for fun if people have anger issues im outa there
tardy hare
all my conduits literallt still 200
with some of the shitter ones peaking 226 or something
fair mirage
play is to run around korthia clicking shit while in bg queues to farm honor for conq upgrades
by the time im done with conq upgrades i usually have full sockets and 226 conduits
tropic schooner
just did korthia while queuing arenas
fair mirage
arena queues too short for my comfort with that type of thing
miss out on so many rares
fair mirage
yeah generally it's like rush 1400-1800 depending on how shitcan of an alt it is
then epics + korthia
then some rift farming for the 239 and 252s if i rly like that char
ye
i really hope that the conduit thing is something they do more of in the future for alts
its like hey get glad boom all ur alts can skip the shitty "systems"
yes exalted + elite/ce and w/e the keystone thing is
which seems stupid for alts
and keys almost certainly much much easier than raid or pvp
fair mirage
yeha i remember all the despair in bfa s4 among people who were working on azeroth's champion about the elite conflict and strife
crazy to imagine that there are going to be people paying millions of gold for max ilev conduits super early though
kind of like those people who bought jaina mount in bfa for gold cap
edgy shale
ya bfa lasted so long everyone and their gma just farmed it
fair mirage
yeah i just pugged it because 80% of attempts were successfull first pull and i had a fleet of alts
it actually looked neat unlike the meme jellyfish
clear pulsar
I farmed it with a group of friends but gave mine away everytime
tiny oar
I farmed it with a group of friends but gave mine away everytime
Such a kind soul 🥰
tiny oar
I will be nfae next patch n no one can stop me
Cringelords out furries in
Embrace my inner formrage
viscid remnant
tiny oar
+++++++++
grand mesa
Phew cause asian
viscid remnant
It was notbad for an 18yearold
But it was annoying me and i wanted to try something new
rare willow
Does anyone have experience with Frenzyband legendary as feral? what kind of damage does it actually do? i dont have the pattern on my druid and want to test it, but its an hour+ queue to LFR even as tank, and i dont want to farm catalogue research for hours just to buy the RNG memory patterns.
especially if someone has prior knowledge
clear pulsar
It's ~8% of your damage
The cdr is practically meaningless
Maybe more than 8% at this point I havent run it in a long time
rare willow
thats overrall right? like what kind of pressure does it add? and its modified by things like TF and adaptive swarm yeah?
clear pulsar
OH
This is pvp channel
Yeah uh its pretty worthless in pvp
Its not buffed by swarm
Cuz it's an ignite effect
Not a 'bleed' as you think of like rake and rip
It's buffed indirectly by things that buff shred/rake/thrash/brutal slash
clear pulsar
Frenzyband value is hardcarried by convoke
And high crit
Being able to shred bite shred bite in pve
Cuz your shred always crits at 50% crit
Which you have in raid rn
I thought it was pve talk cuz frenzyband is looking pretty good for next patch in raid
But it's not useable in pvp no shot
rare willow
not even w/ double legendary and 4pc ?
clear pulsar
4p doesnt matter with frenzyband
It's the 2p cdr that makes it strong in pve
But no not really
It's not worth thinking about for pvp
You'd probably play eye of fearful symmetry as a 2nd damage leggo for nightfae, but most likely imo it'll be a defensive leggo
tiny oar
Meditating before every arena match
fair mirage
for me it's slamming two cans of monster so i can match my partners energy level
tiny oar
for me it's slamming two cans of monster so i can match my partners energy level
i used to do that but then i got an irregular heartbeat and lost a lot of weigh so now im restricted to 60 mg caff a day
fair mirage
Yeah doctor at one point was like "so have you tried eating" and I'm like "eating what" and he goes "food" 
tiny oar
yup lol
fair mirage
it's so much food and meal prep 
tiny oar
ye i dont mind being ripped but prolly fucked on that now low t high e u know
so weak now its insane
used to be able to crank out 50 good pushups cant do 5 now
rare willow
woo. got both legendary patterns from CN. dunno why but lfr queue only took ~3 minutes instead of 1hr lol worth
tiny oar
woo. got both legendary patterns from CN. dunno why but lfr queue only took ~3 m...
legendary time to pump
bro i just activated this rare in the rift and it dragged me out with 15m left on my only key
shit fucking game
rare willow
the calling is night fae right now, if you are trying to rift farm, one of the quest items lets you stay in indefinitely
tiny oar
wtf really epic
fair mirage
yes it gives u a riftstone
with no cd
it just ports u down
so u can do the 4 pull or w/e
rare willow
yeah you dont need to complete any of the quests, but if you pick up A Shady Place quest it will give you a Unbalanced Rifstone
fair mirage
yeah talk to harn to spawn the quests then skeleton/lich lady for the shade one that gives you the stone
tiny oar
bless ty gamers
tiny oar
otrmentors of torghast worth doing?
rare willow
frenzy band isnt... terrible. ended up being ~80k damage worth of extra damage but its probably too easy to shut down cuz if you arent on target you lose value so fast. so if you get cc'd or they pop a major defensive your just kinda sad about it.
clear pulsar
80k on how long of a match, how many targets was it spread on, how many berserk casts?
tiny oar
It's like 300 rep and a few cinders
i soloed final boss as resto only took 7 minutes
clear pulsar
rare willow
oh that was 80k for 1 convoke+zerk burst
clear pulsar
On a training dummy?
rare willow
yeah
clear pulsar
Ok so
If you get afull convoke on anything it dies
Like I said frenzyband value is hardcarried by convoke
rare willow
yeah im not disagreeing
clear pulsar
I'd be surprised if you got 25k damage out of it
rare willow
i was just interested in what the actual numbers turned out as
clear pulsar
In one berserk use
I narena
For a damage gain based on the berserk window it'd be better to go symmetry
Cuz that lets you do 3 bites in 3 globals back to back
When you pop berserk
And it's actual pressure vs an ignite bleed based on shred damage
rare willow
copy. thats good advice. im gonna try that tomorrow porobably.
lime light
tiny oar
inner peace keeper of the grove gaming
rbg rdru so cranked
me and another rdru healing rbg
this is their legendary
surely this will go well
fair mirage
aaahhh shambles
lilac sandal
hmm I made a troll druid. wonder if people will think i'm trolling now? (no pun intended)
figured it wouldn't matter at low ratings but people in this game takes every chance to be toxic 😦
lilac sandal
❤️
lime light
I will never
tiny oar
Will never what
tiny oar
Yea splay is fucking rough as rdruid
Defo a harder one to heal
Yea and ur apes never kill it I'm out there cat form wild charging in to shred it rofl
It defo needed a buff from being 1 tapped by any dmg sure but it's like a fucking tank now
Like trying to kill a rock ele
edgy oxide
You guys having any trouble healing against DH? They tunnel me and for a while I can kite and survive but they usually blow me up in the end
sudden patrol
Hello!
I'm playing 2s as resto druid with my wife frost mage (we're at ~1700 rating). Currently we have a huge problem with DH+RSham comp. While we can win/lose to some other comps with a reasonable ±50% chance, this particular comp is just devastating us every time without any chance. As far as i can see we have 2 main problems which we can't solve for now: first is infinite purges, i can never have hots applied (even with triune ward leggo for mage), second is double kick on small cd. We are trying to cc sham as much as possible - sheeps, clones etc. But it seems like it's not enough for us.
Do you have any suggestions what should we do against them? May be talent adjustments, best pvp talents vs DH? Correct behaviour patterns etc?
*I'm playing with cat affinity btw, most of the games DH is attacking mage
brave shuttle
DH does lots of high pressure damage and is very mobile. They are also very susceptible to roots and slows. No idea if it is the right thing to do, but what about kiting DH away from his healer and forcing the healer to come to open, then swap him with vortex/stun or slows to keep him from running? Have you tried that? Shaman healer can really shut down casters between shear/purge/grounding so maybe it’s also good counter to you (and a really strong comp atm)
- kite DH away and then root him I meant to say, then swap rsham
sudden patrol
no we didn't try to go for sham
clear pulsar
Most important things for healing against spam purge will be extending your CW twice every cast and keeping lifebloom up always. Lifebloom is your #1 priority, and it'll bloom when it gets purged so it'll do a good amount of instant heal even if it doesnt do much heal over time due to uptime
DH cranks rly hard and it can be overwhelming but
If you're hitting the dh you arent sheeping rooting cycloning and kiting the DH nearly as hard as you could be
And if you're hitting the shaman, the shaman cant spam purge
grand mesa
Atleast up to 2100 in 2s for me railing the shaman so he didn’t feel as comfortable spamming purge felt like the play for us. That’s as a kyrian rdru+necro dh
edgy oxide
Do you run the kyrian leggo? I assumed verdant was bis for most covenants
clear pulsar
Well
If you're playing kyrian to begin with
You're definitely only doing it cuz of the leggo
It's the only redeemable part of the covenant
grand mesa
I do but I don’t think it’s what most folks do. I just do it for fun and cause necro dh as the the young people say uhhh cranks
clear pulsar
Cringe
edgy oxide
That makes sense then, especially if your consistent 2s is necro it’s an additional 8 % verse?
And DH does big boy dam for sure
grand mesa
8+8 when u pop yeah. Also gives you back a nice absorb shield when the dh pumps which acts essentially like 15% DR. It’s not bad. Think my DH is running around with 52% vers when I pop
edgy oxide
That’s a lot of verse damn. Well I appreciate the input I think I just need more games against necro DH to work on kiting and surviving
lime light
WATAHA
tiny oar
U ok el patron?
tiny oar
How so?
lime light
very badly
trim viper
Boomies who hit glad this season with a dh, are you running startfall, starburst talents? Or twin moons for dotting and doing more starsurges
trim viper
What are boomkin/necro dh to do into warrior/ret? As boomie the warrior bashes my head in and we lose
amber snow
What are boomkin/necro dh to do into warrior/ret? As boomie the warrior bashes m...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avy_h6WxzZY ... cc, run, bear ...
hoary ledge
@trim viper twin moons every game, play highwinds against ret war and spam it on the off target the whole game
Its a race so just pump as much as you can and spam clone for high winds up time in between goes
vague mural
brave shuttle
Boys: kyrian restodruid. If I bond with a DPS, is it extra damage for them or only extra healing?
lime light
dont think about the bound itself
its dogshit in pvp
if u are kyrian lego
read who u are bounded with
thats it
if u bound with necro remember its buffed by 40%
cuz of the pvp set bonus
lime light
thx
trim viper
Thank you 2 so much for the tips that video and your explanation makes sense to what I’m doing wrong
amber snow
Pick one: dh/boomkin or bm/rdruid for easiest 2100 in 2s
lime light
👨❤️💋👨
clear pulsar
Tian is such a nice leader of our community
viscid remnant
very true
if it werent for el patron i would be the worst player in life
he has made me rise up and press on through absolute darkness against all odds
clear pulsar
Legendary
tiny oar
Epic