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i like what asmongold said
Nope
"it feels like when wow devs say they play wow all they do is log in and do a heroic dungeon with their wife and log off"
Asmongold has never had a good take in his life
are u playing pelagos @vestal citrus
but too many finesse
conduits
no
piercing is good
rly good
if u are kyrian
initial dmg
bigger
so if its crits with lego
it does rly big dam
i seen 20k crits
in pvp
with spear
Tian theorycrafting soulbinds
Then he complains about them being bad
But he has a blast talking about the minigame optimization

what weekly win

weekly win so i get my elite reward
or well
duelist
cause blizzard doesnt allow me to flex
not anymore
on the time
XD
i need to start playing normaly this game
i think
i have every class
at 225~~or so
He is truly a patron of WoW
So how we looking for 2s boys when not being snupy π
wdym
ye man snupy is just the best feral in the world
no one else can match his 2s prowess
say what
i am noob
when seeing snupy play i just dont understand how he doesnt die sometimes
2 dps on him, guy just running around at 10% hp, not even panicking
was being sarcastic btw
not like he's bad or anything but there are much better people out there
who
so he's far from the top
any streamers?
check pins theres quite a few in there
ah thanks
but yea he's a decent player it's just that he will make clickbaity type vids like "WoAh LooK At My BIG BT CriT!!! OP BUILD!!" then people try to run it and fail
because its easy to compile the occasions when it can work out and make it seem amazing in a vid
i could've compiled the few times when i'd global people with bt apex build and pretended like it was some amazing build when it didn't happen often in reality
Stop the drugs
Now the million dollar question
Will the game slow down in full bis gear? Will people start using BM trinkets instead of shackles given the same Ilvl?
obviously it's gonna slow down
Why?
cause u get more stats
and stuff like shackles aren't overtuned
anymore
at that point
I don't see it ATM, shackles on healers are here to stay imo
Ww will only get better with more versa
I hope so, I just don't see it right now
also shackles are just hella tsronk rn cause they're static for max gear
ofcours you dont see it rn
Like, when season started full elite S1 gear Vs same opponents the game felt way burstier than in S1, and I don't know how that can be the case
Since it's the same gear Vs same gear as s1
Those last 2 are independent of gear, but I understand how you can have that POV
I'm just semi tilted to losing to monks soloing in 0.1 and warriors doing unhealable dmg I guess
Sorry if I'm venting
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Hardstuck 2250 on euw 3s playing caster cleave
but they're obviously gonna make the game feel different
Yea you're right
pog
I had a feeling it'd only get worse with damage levels since versa hit the 30% point and isn't going up as much as the other stats
i mean i like it being fast but it's a bit much atm
i think the only reason people enjoy it is because of dampenerfest bfa
people will start to hate this too soon
it's like the opposite end of the spectrum
I got talked into βGive rogues a try againβ in another thread. Three games. Three utterly useless rogues. The last one the strat/shot caller was all but screaming at the rogue to put down smoke or CC or SOMETHING - to no avail. As a class, they seem to attract the worst players in the game as far as team-play goes. Iβve managed to climb fr...
i dont know why i decided to check pvp forums
thats the first thing i saw
That being said defensive part of Vers does scale with itself
Which makes it very powerful
It does, but vers itself is going up quite slowly compared to other stats

if it was still that good there'd be people gemming it
As if PvP players
Do logical decisions
PvP players are prolly even worse at theorycrafting than the tbc discords
Not wrong
truth
I dont mind game being fast but
Well for example, if I equip a piece with 60 vers I'll get 1% vers at my current value. If I equip a piece with 60 mastery I'll get 5% mastery
Feels like too many rng one shots to me
idk all oneshots feel hella predictable
You wont get 1% vers from 60 lol
shits hella scripted
I'm testing it now
@tardy hare ww chiji procs + crits, arms proc mortal combo + crits
Idk
Ret has something too that can proc a repeat
i equipped it

like without wanting to meme you
1.35, 1.9 with vers bonus
Without the dr from 30% it would just be 1.5%
the numbers you said arent wrong... but it just doesnt make any sense at all
So you're telling me that 0.15% less vers gain is the make or break for people to start gemming mastery @tulip falcon
also just to clarify im not claiming that its wrong to gem mastery (or other stats for other classes)
just that pvp theorycrafting does not have the best history of making sense
that includes my great story of vanguardz, who was rank 1 at the time having objectivly wrong gems back in wotlk or cata
Not necessarily, it's just that the gap seems to be getting larger between other secondary stats and versa which was my initial point
as in he could have gotten the exact same stats, just more if he used different gems to get some socket boni
sure but thats not an argument
the "gap" has been true even at 0 vers
There are also other aspects to the math of mastery vs vers, it's not just '60 mastery is 3.4% while 60 vers is 1.9% thus mastery better'
one reason to why getting a bit of other stats may be worth is similar to pve, in which you have secondaries scale with each other
There is the DR, there is the base mastery value you already have
which effectivly means the more you have of one stat the better other stats get
on a more productive note, I should really start playing chicken or feral on my druid again
nightfae resto
feels a bit π©
It doesnt feel that great as dps either
Like
It's great for highlight clip montages
But it's just annoying
Necro super chill
Just spam dam, have shields, never die, always win
But if you're gonna do it I imagine it's gonna be better as feral
If you dont have a particular preference for either spec
And I bet people copied those too just because he used it?
Reminds me of my friend who was IRL friends with one of the highest mages back in WOTLK who used to have a separate gear set with entirely wrong gems he would log out in just because people would copy him
im very sure they did yea
cause he obviously is and was a sick player
just stuff like specific stat distributions generally dont matter all too much
Seemed more the case back then too, but yeah it's still generally like that at least compared to PvE
Pvpers can theorycraft just fine :p but itβs harder
Ie my crit is 25, mastery 50 versa 30 - haste 0 - and when I simmed it and adjusted crit and versa value it was perfect stat balance according to value
πππππ
Now to l2p

Yeah that's not quite theorycrafting

is that a meme?
lol
i refuse to believe its not a meme
ππ₯Έ
or maybe its one of those "im gonna say something that i think makes me maybe bigbrain and act like i know what im talking about but when i get called out ill just claim im trolling"
happens a lot in this discord to be fair
:^)
that's the way to play it
meanwhile vault keeps giving me fucking haste gear
on every piece
Relatable
π
2 of my 252 items were haste mastery
The other was a bad trinket
Then my raid were a haste mastery neck and a bad int wep
I had to take int wep from pvp
Was the only remotely useful option
i've had duplicate weeks as well of the same shit
had boots in the loot pool twice but both my legos are boots
and chest piece which i already had
vendors of torg havent had no backpiece mog since i bought 2 of em
is there like, only 2 backpiece mog?
There is a cage looking thing, crescent with eye of jailer, and crescent with skull, each has 5 recolors
But I think only the gold ones are from adamant vaults
Still, thats 3
I only ever got the cage, bough it
ya, i mean, i bought 2 shit from vault, did it every week, but nothin has shown up after buyin 2
havent done torg dis week tho
ima confirm once i do
i do it as resto
my only motivation to do it is the achieve for flawless and conduit chance. no need for cinders
i to torghast as resto bro i cba doing it on anything else
boomy ez 5 star solo
what power do resto have that makes it easy
healers get weird scaling
the mobs have no hp and you can just put hots on yourself
ok, so not about power, just weird scaling boomy aff hitting all?
yes
weird
i might try, although i shouldnt bother and just wing it boomy anyway since its a free 5 star too, but now im curious
i clear 12 in maybe 15 minutes tops solo as resto
maybe 20 if its a bad map or bad rng
and i guess the death blast healing reduc shit dont bother u if they have shite hp and die before u get stacked up
no wat
go balance affinity press heart of the wild
thats not 5 star if u skip
i mean i could 5 star its just super cancer
i mean torgahst is like 10x easier as healer so going for 5 star is also easier
i just said earlier my only reason for torg are conduti upgrade from vault and flawless achievement
def gotta 5 star it
Bruv
Ihave not done troghast harder than 10
Lmao
Literally cba
Why pvp gear so dogshit in torg
is it?
i haven't done above 10 either because i cba
i just stealth through most of it to get it over with
i have my main 262 now so im happy
Does Kevin oozeling buff damage of feral frenzy if adaptive swarm used after ff?
who tf is kevin
Lol
its annoying that a 12 is just, giant white hits that you cant really avoid
@lime light pooomping 3s today? π
i got shitvault on all my characters
sadge
last soulbind in necro
ahhh
just clear all, dont die too much and use empwoer bonus
You can get 200 points from just 100% completion + empower properly and the easy guaranteed bonus
I got 265 points today
Hi, as guardian venthyr what soulbind i play in pvp?

the v word
what kind of pvp? if its anything else than rbg and u guardian...
Well i speak about RBG cause this is only place u play pvp guardianm
cba 2s
it's all pretty bad but draven is probably your best choice, soulbind won't make much difference tbh
2 much tryharding
i run niya just for the convoke mastery and its the only useful thing i get as guard
but yea ultimately it's all minor anyway
draven big husk when u die. surprise people with a kamikaze bomb when u die on flag and 1 shot
i crit for 18k with draven as a healer, i guess bear's hp pool can scale that much higher
an el patron classic π
If anyone is looking for a 2.1 ww hmu. Trying to push glad this season
Hows feral/ww/healer
like every donki kong melee cleave
S+ tiers roger
Doesn't feel like it'd be anything special but meh
legit normal zug cleave
when it depends what gear u ahve
and what gear enemy have
not viable for high rating
but if u asking
u prolly mordor
so it will work
if u know what to do
-> zerg healers
or -> zerg casters
I'd rather play feral/war/healer I think if I'm gunna zug
i saw in awc
they played all necro feral/arms/rsham
and won some games
dont remember against what though
Running prot pal, unholy dk, demo lock at 1700. Come at me
Any cakers in chat?
What is ur gear like
Ihave pretty shit gear even 2s sometimes is a fkin headache
213
Chad
would just even like to play 2s
been sat in group finder for 35 mins with 2 sign ups 
Yeah they see rbg main and peace tf out
i mean its better than arena main but being 2k
2.2 ok?
i have 2.2 from 7 years ago its still relevant
True
ye i queued with someone yday to help cap and it was like
the same 3 or 4 dps specs
in all seriousness i may as well have no exp in arena with how little i played it the last few expacs
its so different to when i actually played it a bit
what toon is that
u still alliance or you saw the light and came back
Is a venthyr boomkin any good in pvp ?
Maybe alliance IS the light @blissful belfry
oof
only usable in rbg
@blissful belfry is it viable ?
in rbg? definitely
the main downside of venthyr boomy is that its a long ramp up and that no one with more than a dog's IQ will let you play for that whole ramp up /be in LoS
But in rbg, u get lots of target in the teamfight, no one will line your cds
so you can ramp it up better
My vault is either Crit Chest (my draught lego) or Haste Boots (my convoke lego). Guess I have to lock in going NF or Necro for real.
Does the last Niya conduit make a big difference or does it still seem Necro is better for FeralPriest 2s / Jungle?
Why do you care about draught leggo
If you're nfae
Clearly you dont raid cuz your leggos are on the wrong slots for that
Just
Get both
The last niya trait does nothing if you dont have a melee partner to trigger it with consistently on your convokes
Listen I was replying as I read the message ok?
Reading it all before I start replying is cringe
lol, what's the range on Bonded Hearts?
More or less thrash range
yeeeeesh
Same as the emeni trait
was expecting that to be a guaranteed 50% grove mastery boost. Seems like it's far from it
ok apparently facerolling feral/ele to 2.1k mmr
and getting spits
so its working out
Havent tested. but it should be player
i dont think hunters pet being near you will give that
Idk if it procs with pets near
go test it mate, i aint night fae. test the range on it and test the pets
Feral ele in 2s?
new to feral druid doing 2v2, playing with reso shaman or mw monk, necrolord or night fae?
aint u got no friends? a hunter or smth
no way jose
go to durotar
Question on legendaries for PVP--NoW at 262 should go on head or wrists?
I usually get to only 1800 level and that means 239/246 ilevel on gear. So the stats i get from head will beat wrists all day long, correct?
My thought is that the 262 legendary will offer better stats at head slot versus wrists when compared to 1800 level gear. Are others seeing it that way too?
true i am switching off asap
i swear u just auto lose in mirrors
cuz ur convoke and they are necro
What specs even use NoW
so, the night fae dream was short lived eh
NoW is useless for guardian now with slumber being a thing
and ye NF feels good in 2s
but feels garbo in 3s
Yea got 1800 in a day nf feral. And now I donβt care. Just wanted the xmog
Venthyr prot pally dream
Ele is crazy
until he wanted to play resto in blues and we tanked
having it as ur main lego though i assume if hes making it at 262
so
who knows
good tips and thanks! ANy thoughts on the celestial convoke leggo for FC maps and Niya? Seems to be more popular and with redirected anima a good path.
as what spec
it can be worth it for boomie on flag maps
and yeah niya is pretty much the thing to go
for boomkin and feral
1min convoke is good for balance too eh
niya ok for guardian as well because of the mastery
from convoke
giga hp
i need to test how much hp i can get with the new trait
yes, for guardian...just testing it out a bit and I am going from 65k health to 88k health with convoke and Niya grove invig. That lasts 30 secs and CD on convoke is only 1 min. Not shabby.
only legendary you should be using is sleeper if you're guardian
it's the thing that actually makes it busted
especially now since you can slumber and get cds back which was the only niche usage for NoW
fuck
yeah but thats only good for carrying, right? 2.5 min CD with nothing and I cannot slumber and reset. I am looking for a leggo to sit and hold flag. Previously I was using NoW to sit with flag. Now, I am asking about sitting with the convoke 1min CD leggo.
no sleeper is god tier for base defending too
it makes you immune to CC
you basically cannot lose a base for that entire 30 seconds
yes yes for bases too π
what do you mean by sit and hold a flag then?
like sit in the base with the enemy flag in a flag map?
i use sleeper to cross the field, immune to CC. After 30 secs its over and I ahve 2.5 min of niothing. My worry is something while I am sitting upstairs or balcony with flag.
firstly you can sleeper and knock some of the CD off, and secondly there shouldn't really ever be a situation where you're sat still especially in this meta
convoke leggo vs NoW?
good points too...maybe part of my problem LOL
if you sit still in base with dps hitting you, you die
regardless of any legos or cds
unless they are terrible
so I am looking for second legendary to change to after sleeper is used and on CD
yeah don't honestly
i fced to 2.8k last season with just sleeper
didn't need anything else
nothing else?
literally
FCing this expac especially this season
you kite all around the base, outside the base wherever
have a healer with you at all times and a dps or two to slow
just dont let DPS touch you
maybe that is my issue and not gear. I am tired of getting blown up sitting with flag. That might be the prob, i am sitting π
yeah 100%
thanks man :))) appreciate the chat π
i can send some vids i had from last season that i sent to others that showed how i normally kite on some maps
id really appreciate that
i always end up far from cap when EFC dies and I cannot get back in time
im at GY or out on ramp when EFC dies π¦
love this π
like if they are going to kill or w/e
thanks :))
Is there a point you stop gearing for vers?
Uwu
@stray sigil any more thoughts on committing to NF or Necro? (priest 2s / Jungle)
im not liking nf for 3s at all actually
its gimmicky
for 2s nf sounds like its a lot better with hpriest can win in a couple of gos
but 3s u just dont have the same dmg
and ur squishy
Yeah, I had a fine time in 2s (even with Disc), but felt like I was almost nonstop kiting/bear in 3s. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement, but Necro does seem a bit easier.
Yeah NF really does seem to do better in 2s than 3s
But necro is still good in 2s also soooo
I liked that I could actually tank m+ for part of this season thanks to the covenant, but it's not content I'm really focused on.
for guardian, is the defensive value of ilvl over verse/mast still stand?
wait, they're removing it in retail? I thought it was just BC
if they do remove it im making a /e spits on you. macro to spam instead
jsut gotta tell your teamate its not towards him
wait really?
i swear i use the /e spits on you. macro in raid to spit at my entire team and they all react to it like i personnaly offended them
perhaps cross faction its different
yaa, that might be it, using /e cross faction probably says unintellegible to stop people from communicating through emote system
./me Spits on you.
"man they always trinket my hoj i cannot kill"
"oh shit man, the duelist trinkets are too strong, 30 sec cd"
Elgodtron
Iam bored again, my best friend went to school and no one to Play with @viscid remnant
And then he dont stop drink and i have to be angry

Bomb?
Yesh

looks like a listening bunker in ww2
Big voltage
plug donger

In pve? No
But it's ok to boomie convoke on stuff like tormentors
Cuz boomie still has high armor
Any boomi that gave venthyr a proper try this season and care to talk about it?
obviously only in pvp
That's what I thought - I just thought its too much of a novelty for people to actually know how to counter it
yeah makes sense
im just not feeling any of the covenants this season
Venthyr isnt even good at that
I mean
Why would anyone want to play that
It's like destro but much worse
@lime light NEW WORLD delayed by a month again ?
ye
or even more
prollyu not a 2021 game
wtf got mount again
randomly
i think iam rerolling to mount collector
tryign to dodge the inevitable blizz sniping their launch with phase 2 tbc
ye thats what i heard
last testing phase
BDO and FFXIV have both had garbage pvp imo
has 1k views so needed more
necro warrior kinda fun too
@lime light what are u doing
Gonna get another root canal done today
Pray for me boys

Last time I had one it hurt like all fucking hell
He has a japanese last name so it'll be good I believe
The last one was young cute br woman but had very br name
Also imagine being poland
Lose to france in olympics
Cant even make it to finals to face brazil
u cant talk about sport
as brazil
after bra7-l
YE
imagine
how do u get goaled
7 times
u must suck pretty hard
That's eastern europe actually
It was the ref, there was this one story at least from idk 10 years ago, I was very young kid. Ref stabbed a player who punched him after getting a red card, crowd invade the pitch and behead/quarter up the ref's body
sounds like the average england football fan too
i remember like
1 or 2 euros ago
whales fans were beat up by russian hooligans

i actually sort of hope england lose sometimes just to rile the braindead hooligan fans
when england loses
its the funniest shit
they say its coming home
2 early
and jebait it
and then lose
It crossover in esports too for BR
Idk if you guys follow CS but THorin refuses to do any event in poland and brazil cuz of death threats from fans
Since Thorin is a fuckin moron that talks out his ass about the fan favorites
Guys, hi! This season I play as both feral and resto, and I have a big question about fighting Mage+Rogue as RDru+Monk.
Maybe someone can help? So far we won like 1 match out of 8.
- Pre-hotted monk is sapped, mage casts pyro. I interrupt and hot monk. I get stun and ring of frost (and sheep, if i'm not in bear)
- monk survives first CC chain by himself + my hots.
- I trinket blind and heal monk to full.
- on 3rd CC chain my monk dies.
How can we win? Rating is 2200, mmr is 2300.
football is irl pvp so this counts as pvp discussion
during italy/britain final this year i was watching and hoping britain loses cuz it would be funny seeing bri*ish ppl MALD
Yes
el patron π³
Kill before 3rd cc chain I got you fam
i walked the streets and saw england flags strewn all over the ground
it was great
We kill mage?

Just train rogue and abuse vortex + rop to not let them reset idk bro
rop =?
Nice pint of wifebeater
half the british population is probably braindmged
Gg
Ring of peace
as a brit i agree
No!?
You mean we just use these abilities correctly, or there's a way to abuse abilities at the same time?
Should be cast on the same spot? (=rogue?)
Not at the same time, just to keep the rogue from running to pillars to be able to reset
why cast whenu can spam instants 4head
Didnt invite me to any
RBG is always mordor!?
No I'm back alliance since last week bro keep up wth
1 2v2 win, 1 3v3 win, 1 rbg win, 1 practice win, and in a week with pvp quests you have big conq

Starlight brother
Starlight
I did a lot last month of last patch
Was like 35k per 15
Then first few weeks this patch there were some demon payouts
????
Any other advice on this, guys? :)
Like 70k cut for 10s
ur insulting actual poor ppl
i cant evne buy legos
Since Korthia farm i got like 500k gold.
hm
idk how this works
iam on a fairly popular alliance server but iam horde
is the AH the same or its scuffed
AH is cross faction
double dps
yas
i think
iam going to quit my 2nd character
need to pick between shaman and pala
i cba doiing this campaign again
so ebola
u dont need to
just wait for next week
and get the renown from some emissary
i play every single class
tank lego
is dogshit
it does nothing
we always go thro
and they have to buble or bop
anyway
its weak
and prot is boring
idk its boring to play with prot
i dont member
252 is 1.8lk
i think
dont hink so
maybe after like a week
u play to X rating -> get vault u still can upgrade this week - > u didnt play next week - > u cant upgorade
Nah he does weekly
i think this way
But iam pretty sure it works even without weekly win
ah u are not doing pvp
u are doing
rbgs
we played prot arms rsham
and like 210 ilvl
till 1.6k
XD
pugging rbgs looks painful cos 5 gazillion people got hero last season for no effort
I need rbgs
gl the backpeddling clicker with 2.4k exp last season will say you don't have enough exp
Prot rsham war
Most fun comp
35% versa only
Ive played
they prob dont know what it is
just say you have 30% vers and 0 exp
is it good
you will have better luck
just parry
Socket rep is 6.
I have 6 and 7000/10000 after
u disgusting pig
Average is middle-5
In 1h20min a day it's 1000-1800 rep.
XD yep im gonna do that yep yep
6 sockets incl 90 sec stat and +7% speed is nice )
as well as conduits
So i did that and now i cant stop
addiction
The Fleshcraft one.
Yeah but your abom prob looks terrible
Im not even necro and my abom cooler than yours
abom does not work in korthia
:D
I wonder what they'll give me for 10k/10k after max rep
2000 research and 3000 gold?
i will give props to hotted for not looking any different over the last 10 years
doesn't even look like he aged
They changed it so u need to win 1 a week
But
I dont think it works properly
Bugged i think
It worked for a while
But pretty sure it didnt this week
But im just doing 1 win a week then afk
Cba play wow
Just want gear
Also all games played are shown in weekly
For some reason
Might be part of the bug
true
No it's only part of the 'nobody wants to work on htis game anymore'
This slovenia france game huge pog
Anyone else?
France gonna win gold medal
football
poland will
Basketball
Football is all brazil all day not even close
Nah
France gonna win
They already beat US in group prelims
This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.
Poland hammered in volleyball the only sport they had a chance
i don't see many people using it
maybe
usually rift and the gateway one and demon armor i think
rift is busted
or porting people in the water on gilneas
down the side of where berserker is
i imagine on some maps it'd be worth using bane tho instead of gateway
which class is good
in ff14
u wanna play tho>?
oh ye
i want this one
is it good
can i start the game before it fully dl
XD
cuz its gonna be
787 min
@viscid remnant go ff14
no
bad times :/
if wow is dogshit
man iam bored
of doing the same shit
gg come again
ive been playing on and off since like
2016 or 2017\
so ya
its hard 2 get into but its fun
but
u just got to watch and read a lot of guides
3 spells but 10 gazillion skills
is like 1000000% times of diablo
yeah
and ye there are a lot of different spells
and its new season?
just always felt like a slightly better diablo clone to me
like
those types of games just feel a bit dated to me idk
the whole game is grind
there was nothing to do except repeat content
and quit
ye
whats the point playing 2 days
new one has druid so can play it
reason i played druid in wow is cos i played it in diablo 2
bringing it back in d4
till your upgrades are primals or paragons
i played like 3 months
then i stop
because
just gonna q main
u spam 2v2
and q warrior sometimes
3s is not better
ye
thats why
u cant stop
the drink
and make me angry
..
but not one
but two
drinks
to full
I was fakking falling asleep
holy fuck
wtf is this
cringe shit
i have to do
for renown
some uther shit
pls






