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Smol question
with changes to convoke legendary is it “viable” now over say boat or pulsar if nf
is owlkin adept bugged rn?
Ive never seen it stack to 2
i dont get how it works then, ive never got a insta clone
or is it just "2 charges"
for 50% reduction ea
any links for boomie 3v3 streamers that are somewhat active?
Is there a way to view stats when in pvp on the new +13 ilvl pvp pieces? I feel like I dont know what is an upgrade due to not being able to see my stats change while in pvp
Yeah I mean like if my chest goes from 203 -> 216, is there a way to see how much the secondaries and primary stat changes when the ilvl increases.
An example could make it more simple:
Think about a PvE 207 item that has 60 vers and 40 haste (Completely bolony numbers but just as an example) and then think about a PvP 203 item that has 50 vers and 30 haste, how much will the pvp item increase in vers/haste when it increases to 216 in PvP
And I was wondering if there was a way to visually see the changes, etc 21% vers out of pvp, but in arena 22%
Cupid is definitely better
Or anything without a feral
Feral is so much worse than last season it's not even funny
DK Hunter, Ret Hunter, I'm sure even thug
Ah thanks man! @vestal citrus
Basically you name it
2s is pretty cancer nowadays with these holy priests
nvm im stupid the ilvl of items actually changes in arenas
Holy priest is significantly weaker than last season
Shorter gfade, no dampen protection
Much more prone to getting kicked
im playing with MW
its the toughest shit to face
I try to kill the dps
but its hard
trying to kill the holy, dunno about that
ive started to just leave games where we face holy
unbeatable as feral
I played feral/disc and didn't really feel much more of a struggle against hpriest than most other things
if anything I seemed to kill those more
ye so i think the issue is more with mw than feral
they really should keep that spell shadow priest-only
god i'd just prefer if they removed the ability
hmm did they fix the initial heal of regrowth being affected by adaptive swarm?
like mindgames is one of the few things that triggers me atm
we talked about that yesterday
anyone in here plays nf with savage roar and bloodtalons?
yeah I dont know if its just shit and feral needs that support
i hit 30k on my friend with 10% vers
I was a bloodtalons simp with apex for the first part of s1 then gave up after i came back recently and went ff
doesn't feel worth
to play bt anymore
bring back old bt
i always play ff but i saw this build and it seems fun
I do like the BT playstyle a lot more, but it just doesn't feel like it's good enough
I tried hard to make it work
hmm
necro is generally the meta option rn
you go nf
I think of nf and new legendary with it
i still think necro will be better overall
i'm saying this as someone that plays nf
facing necro mirrors in 2s has been a struggle
Necro use what legendary?
draught
Nf?
symmetry usually, but will need to see how good the new one will be
Soon
for now
I hope I dont shoot myself in the leg too hard by being kyrian
i haven't seen a kyrian feral in ages lol
vast majority seem necro with a handful of nf
imagine seeing a venthyr feral
best troll pick
Any suggestion
🤔
I don’t know how good gona be judgment of pure and its cleans
Facing like bala
He dispel dot every 5 sec
its nice against cc
But he won’t pick this talent facing ele or sp that’s the point
Kinda hard counter for comps
Need to see this in action
Not so many content on YouTube atm
Gona check
Thx
There's not a lot of high moonkin streaming
Love watching our boi chan play boomie n ripping retail apart
Went Necro.... need renown catch up stuff
alright 17k non crit in arena
how big of a sacrifice is crafting my leggo on a chest if my main focus is pvp, surely the stat boost is very nice to craft a leggo chest/helm
Weak. Didnt know about the nerf either
asleep at 6 am like i should be wtf
Kid
ruski
yo guys, i've been focusing on pve first season as feral and now i wanted to take a break and focus on pvp and i've been wondering lately how worth is it to swap to necrolord for this season if i plan on coming back to pve next season
what do you guys think
Im assuming next season is at least 6 months away?
Idk how thats relevant to a decision for now
D= big body starburst
perhaps ima run starburst eh
What does that even mean
how is venthyr rbgs
so with new leggo nf buff thats definitely the leggo for rbgs right?
How are night fae boomies fairing in pvp currently? I'm trying to play a covenant that performs alright in both pve and pvp
Oh I misread that. I thought it was a 1:30 CD for 3 sec. I like this.
In arena you can play boomy as anything but venthyr. In rbg, just anything at all works.
Some wind walkers burst for 10k dps others roll off the bridge in blades edge and karma openers
There is no inbetween
For me it was
Rogue
ww is bugged
i havent faced many rogues
only to rogue mage, cuz they kill u before u press
a spell
iam prolly q'ing tomorrow
was a long week monkaW
literally im crutching games with random convokes against shit like that
cos without playing draught/necro i get outdpsed so much
How much haste and mastery should I have as Resto Druid? Atm Im at full versa/haste gear and have 20% haste but 0% mastery
just gonna wait for this broken ass convoke lego and get free rating
Waht's the highest renown we can reach atm? 45?
44
45
ah, so we won't knwo how the convoke lego is until next week then
yeah, next week we should reach 48 and be able to craft covenant legendaries
I hope the new lego ends up feeling good. Convoke was pretty comical with BOTA. But I'm pretty bad so i felt like I onyl killed people with convoke
in arena at least
oh yea its 45 forgot about the campaign
well after the buff it just got i don't see how it won't be busted
Am I misunderstanding how it's worded? Wasn't the original 50% duration reduction better than the 25%?
its 12 spells instead of 8 on 1 min cd
yea, should make one minute builds pretty great
I was just reading this : Night Fae - Celestial Spirits: Convoke the Spirits’ duration reduced by 25% (was a 50% reduction).
yea, the amount of spells is tied to the cast time 1 sec = 4 spells, unless youre resto
ye someone i knew was about to reroll necro as they thought it was a nerf lmao
It's reasonably good for raiding
in theory it's about as good as NF
in practice slightly worse
however it's just useless in m+
yeah M+ will be my main pve content this patch. Or at least for th start of it
quick question for pvp resto's. what will be best legendary gear and legendary power to go with new domination sockets introduced for pvp obviously
this cov shit reminds me of playing the start of legion. Pick a class I like and it's strong, only to be nerfed into leveling another artifact weapon and starting over each patch
What spec do you play?
balance
I blast yo mama
what slot do I want now for leggo?
neck?
not sure if domination sockets are a consideration now they got nerfed in pvp?
My dps in keys isn’t bad at all as Necro moonkin
as a feral should I aim for buying the weapon first with valor or is it only a stat stick and I should go for a cheaper piece instead?
This channel is just people asking the same question non fucking stop
@lost sun weapon is important..not just a stat stick. Will make your dps bigger.. also with enchant..
The fly one?
Nah not yet
No queues yet
ah
ye someone tried it earlier and apparently wasn't working
worked a few days ago
@lost sun So yeah, you should buy it first.. or wait if you aint get one in vault, since its kinda expensive.. u decide.. (but its important)
F
I AM SPAM LOSING TO SUPABAD PLAYING DSIC ASSA
SEND HELP
ME MENTAL GONEZO
@clear pulsar @tardy hare @lime light
just win
bro
he just runs at my hpal
unhealable dmg
plays liek an absolute ape as u would expect too
insta trinkets rake everygame
Lmao
https://clips.twitch.tv/PeacefulMiniatureCurryFreakinStinkin-fkBT9ws7Jd57zYDw his other popular clip this week tho
Welll
We all know
ZillaGAWD is the innovator behind BT curio tech
He has 160 energy
Def BT curio
Man's a pioneer
A genius honestly
I didn't knwo they took the moons out of the new night fae convoke lego :[
@clear pulsar kys
?
ya in game
anyone know what legendary to use if you are a boomkin FC?
ptrdr
I'm gonna name my new druid feji
which legendary do we use for NF feral? eye or apex?
Yes
so we use both?
Use the one you like best
@stray sigil what's ur whole name in game again? Fujishima or sumthing?
fuji
fujinuma
thoughts on hunter buffs?
obv. fire was 'bad' for like 1 week so
facts
Just play rm to beat the rm gg ez counter
I got no items with sockets
But I have all frost gems
Ready for the drops anytime now
Maybe sunday I'll get some
anyone got a cyclone on focus target macro?
/cast [@focus] cyclone
You guys think these 14th July changes are actually going to apply in pvp?
15% extra BM damage sounds like a bad idea
rbg as guardian is boring lol am i doing something wrong?
valley of four winds just sitting quarry stealthed
Sounds about right
if i make legacy do i go boots?
Better to sit ruins imo😅 and ye boots
bruh where's ur 3rd pvp one shite vault
ya im fucking with u lol u will almost 100% take a 252 from m+
wait wat lvl is slyvanas loot like 245? maybe 1 of those
Time to q rdruid thug cleave and scatterplay let's go
boy im trash. I feel so squishy as boomy in 2s
no u
el patron. how long did u play bc?
good
Dogshit expansion, with 1hr queue, and 95% of the population are pve dogs
That FAP to their auto attack/ one spell damgur rotation
facts
The only different between tbc RAID and retail lfr RAID is
Of u mąkę 10 mistakess u Die in yb
Tbc
But u dont on lfr
See i know everything
U show me your character
And i can tell h
U
What's your goal
And your goal js
PVE PIG
i carry u to victory
🙏 
legendary
what would people recommend as the first conq piece?
Wait till u open the vault
Than get the most expensive Item with bis stats u can get
And buy something
Wise words from el patron
EL PATRON we love u
It's true we do
will also depend what you currently have/have frmo last season
on my pally I probably save for weapon, if I had a 233 one Id prolly not do that
im 220 across the board
Does anyone know if the old meta gem with movement speed increase works in rated bg?
All gems and enchants should work, just not tertiary stats.
Does the new Shackle trinket actually cc your opponent in any sense, or it just channels the dmg/heal absorb on them?
Channel dm/heal
No cc
what are the standard resto druid talents atm
So how tf do I beat bm hunter in 2s as a necro feral now lol
oh boy
u go healer
and u die or not
u legit have to chaase healer
but he has one job
lure u to a los
and then your healer will get aids from hunter
and u lose

It's basically unwinnable if you are equal skill lol
They can just double stun, mind games trap every 1 min
u can win
if u play gay af
or your healer
gives big aids to hunter
can do some maim/bash swarm FF swaps to hunter
every match up is winnable
but vs bm/survi
its super hard as necro
Can you play Necro boomie in RBGs?
ok
yes
guys a question the codex reputation thing its acc bound? or i have to farm it in every char
tian brush teeth more they are too white for eu
wtf how
@obtuse ice nice
🙏
@stray sigil u watching?
XD
idk never seen him spam losing to any comp yet
but this
@obtuse ice u are qt mdr
U more ptdr
Drainer is stupid lmao
He was saying outlaw just wins cuz they keep rolling the bones until they get 5 buffs
THey can't keep rolling the bones it has a cd
He has no idea what he's talking about
usual
wtf was that phone verrification bs
Temporary while we deal with the bot spam
I always learn a lot from el patron of dreamgrove of course
But I knew that cuz I have a rogue

show rogue
I cba doing the maw intro on 4th char
Insane they still require u to do it lol
If I don’t have efs, what leggo can I craft now in the mean time, is apex good or curio better? Btw I’m nf cov so waiting till next week to get that leggo
The new celestial one
You can just get symmetry tho
But it's not the most impactful choice in the world
SOme people play curio
Fuji acts like he does
With bloodtalons
How can i get sym thought that torghast wing is not available this week
Curio feels really good tho
Twisting corridors
If you have done that on an alt
Just go to layer 3
And reset til you get the right wing
For symm
I dont remember which one drops it but you can check in the adventure guide
Oh i see, thanks ill do that
Or rather if you've already done it on a diff character, you can go straight to layer 3
But if you havent then you gotta do one at a time til layer 3 ofc
Yes
But bt curio feels nice
no
Also whats the curio bt playstyle? Sounds interesting
I hate this word
"Playstyle'
You're playing feral
You do the same things
Leggo doesnt change how you play or what spells you press
Idk
Just use the leggo
Eh kinda different cos no ff for burst
It just feels kinda nice cuz in pvp you sit CC a lot so curio lets more energy get pooled during those windows
Yeah the extra energy sounds nice
If you have the brambles talent, does it still pulse aoe if you are “frozen” like In hunter trap or mage ring if frost?
Or does Only cyclone stops it from doing damage
Cyclone


i saw some fuji slander in here
pls stop that guy paid for my hospital bills and bought me a new car
really nice guy
its true u know
I am back horde when are we doing triple feral?
nowwww
i told u @clear pulsar ur rerolling to rdru

what the fuck
are you smoking this time
zechey
fml
I'm not playing arena as rdru
I may reroll
But only if I become dragonslayer hero
disgusting
how does shit die insta smh
not while stunned
is it even worth going holy priest if theyre just gonna use the res legendary
Who even uses ress lego
many priests
like rdruid/bm hunt
no idea
what to do against that
and hpriest/fire mage
who am I meant to attack
cant kill hpriest for sure
wonder what they will do to NL cov legendary for the tuning
hes right
if youre guardian affi

hpriest res legendary is probably bis for hpriest/bm hunter tbh
0 chance you survive for long enough to kill hpriest
but if you do
lmao try again
that being said disc is broken anyway
not seen a single ress lego
also not targetting hpriests ever either tho
i solely kill dps
every season
former hpriest here, ress leggo is not really ever taken unless you're facing like big burst comps, but even then, I never even crafted it, the value from Harmonius Apparatus as holy in pvp is just too good. (Do keep in mind this is with my own experience at roughly 1800-1900CR last season)
but onto druid stuff, I need a legendary for resto (verdant infusion) that will be on the world boss rotation in three weeks ;_;
just gonna gear up and do arenas without legendary for now
Yeah
You could make draught
It's good if you are comfortable catweaving in 2s
Otherwise no point making anything til then
Maybe the convoke leggo will be useful if you're nfae in arena for some reason
Ehh, I'd rather save up the soul ash, dinged 60 yesterday after all (200 ilvl in pvp and full renown tho so that's pog)
nah I'm necro
I just prefer small cooldowns, easier to play around besides its really strong for resto from my understanding
Furys kinda low key a really big pain in the ass in 2s when youre playing double dps
Fury pumps
Fury indeed pumps
its just unfair how feral has to play flawlessly to win and other classes can just mongo
how do u kill bm
this post was made by necro kitty gang
arent u playing necro
how can u talk about flawless play
all u do is pve
i mean he's right that feral has to work harder than some other melee but if u don't like it then don't play the spec lol
its wat people enjoy about it
if u wanna braindead then get on ur war
Feral rn is hella equal
no im playing kyrian
For me surv hunt/rog is far more complicated
"UnPlAyAbLe"
i dont think rogue is hard at all anymore tbh
surv looks a bit more complicatedish
but like idk
Hehehe
am I the only kyrian here
Yes
why
kyrian leggo insane'
maybe itll help me past 1.8k
Buff feral
funny how they will buff BM
they already did
oh yeah it was a hotfix
nah im talking about the bow and trinket idk about any actual buffs
altho armor values are really low rn so BM wont be this broken
thank god
went to check, wasnt hotfix actually
class tuning in progress
Kill Command, Cobra Shot, Barbed Shot, Multi-Shot, and Kill Shot damage increased by 15%.

imagine being an intern at blizzard
you make an epic change to some sad class
all is good
and then a day before release
someone comes up to you and says lol lmao check this out apparently bm is op in pvp
what we doin
pve first
Is shackles of male the new goto or is hp trink still goto?
I use the use trinket
shackles seems op
maybe its the best
using it like a convoke
Yeah idk atm im really low rating so I just grabbed it and thought it might secure some kills due to being able to dmg
I really dislike the idea of some insane damage dealing trinket to deal kills though
So sham, resto and mage?
druids mages shamans ya
ah gotcha! Cheers 😄
Vault caps at 1800 this qeek right?
Is there something else to think about like is it a stun so it can get on DR?
Vault isnt capped @green valve
It's just upgrades if you buy a piece this week
That are capped at 1800 yeah
I believe
Oh the vault piece itself is 2100
F
Guess i better get back in q thought i was good for the week
is there a guide on how to play jungle?
for pugging 2s, i'd recommend resto because you'll spend minutes in queue vs hours
perfect, cheers
rsham/arms warrior still so aids
cant kill warr at all
so much stuff to avoid mindgames
What you playing? Was crushing warr/healer today but i was playing feral/arms so kind of a weird comp
how well does feral arms work? compared to arms resto? 🙂
Kinda was way better then i thought itd be
Best the piss out of bm healer, most wizards, rm
do we know if the conq cap is 800 per week now
or is it a first wee kthing
and its back to 550 next week
Booooo
lame so u cant actually buy anything
good thing i didnt some dumbass on realid said 800 every week
almost jebaited me into buy a ring
Nah you cant buy anything if you want wep week 3
why save up for a wep when we all getting 1 week 1 in vault?
Cuz you'll take the domination socket item instead ofc
no lol im not even getting a pvp item in the vault cuz i havent felt like it
im getting a 252 m+ weapon BITCH
Kind of silly but I'd really like to get the hippo mount. What's going to be the fastest way to grind out a token? RBGs?
No it's 252
Huge facts
Just gotta believe
Just tried that new healing absorb trinket as resto in arena. It feels a bit busted. Like giving everyone an extra execute button
Yea i like it
my starbursts be hittin for 22k in pvp, wtf is that talent
What soulbinds/conduits should I use for necro boomy? and which for rdruid?
@clear pulsar r u sure its inly 252 that doesnt make sense
pvp gear was supposed to be higher ilvl in pvp
pretty sure 2100 or maybe 2400 gives u a 246 ilvl weapon that becomes 259 in pvp
Yeah you right
Sorry it's just that
I was thinking mythic was 249 for a sec
But that's the heroic sylvanas gear
ya ur wrong
So am I doing 10 15s what's going on first week
ya
Good shit LOVE PVE BABY

Might be getting my service delayed by 1-2 months
Im at the thing
They keeping me waiting
Idk yet
Fukem dood
ye can imagine
Lil toy solider
Whats the recommended 3rd potency for necro feral? adaptive swarm conduit?
u shoulda had swwarm conduit before 3rd unlock btw
but ya swarm tf and bite conduit prob
Only just started 2 days ago on this toon, my swarm conduit is criminally low, I'll have to pray for an upgrade
im missing 3 at 226 still and only got 1 at 239
drudis have so many conduits tho
idk how much other classes have, but i calculated at 150k archivist research to up all my 226 to 252
i think we got 26
i did get a 252 cond upgrade from adament vault,, jsut need 51 morew

ya i did all 8 dung 15, now im working on pvp, but with the shittiest meta
resto druid venthyr and kyrian shadow priest
👺
Does someone here have a WeakAura link
for the new Owlkin Adept PvP talent-
tracking Owlkin Frenzy proccing and stacking?
I feel like I need it a little more obvious on my UI
Thanks in Advance 🙂
You mean this as a +15 mythic group and what not? Kind of difficult right now if you’re coming assuming gear IL is low
the problem for 15s right now if you are 215-220 ilvl is not to finish the key but to enter it
gotta have a goddamn big io if u wanna step in a 15 lfg at 215 ilvl
monkaW
always best to have friends/guild and run with em, fuck pugs
I mean like getting into groups lol
Lol
Staff of natural fury seems like a good pvp starter weapon. Any opinions on that weapon?
Guys, have you got any tips on how to deal with bm and what? I seem to always lose to these classes
Hunters in general tend to hit me with cc without me being able to do anything and monks always catch up to me and absolutely destroy me through defensives
Hey guys, is there any way I can garuntee that if a weapon drops from my vault is 2h?
No
So it's best to just leave it on feral spec for loot?
I just checked, cause I got a 1h earlier from something and I thought I was feral. I've been in resto loot spec this whole time
I am so lucky gear is both main stats now
trying necrolord in my 187 ilvl feral alt and already feels op
Guess I need to switch to Necro, such a pain
i'm waiting just in case Blizz makes any other last minute changes
the kyrian potion feels like such a waste compared to necro shield
Problem I’m having is necro is dog In keys
im gonna check out the kyrian legendary I guess and then go night fae if its nothing special
since its the only playable one in pve
So dont do keys and you won't even notice
I like m+ too 🤷♂️
Never heard of her
What is the stat prio for feral btw? Mastery > haste > crit ?
Maybe I guardian keys, I have a healer I play with almost all the time
Cant you just circle boomie and blow up trash
Playing more feral atm, got a team to jungle with
And complete your +10 key pyk
Just scroll down to Fore's big compilation of links, it should be way down and the last link in the post
I’m doing 15s lol, but yea
El patron now a troll
In between those I'm +2ing any group that actually invites me doing 3k+ overall dps as resto
Then back to spam decline
This is as healer bro I'm getting spam declined as a healer by people I have 300+ io on last season
What do they want? Venthyr hpals?
I dont understand
Is this unique?
Venthyr hpal yeah I think they all scared of not timing or something
True
Some groups want lust and only have a healer spot left
Idk it's dumb anyway
It's 15s not 25s
M+ are like rbgers
Yeah lmao
How much f2f could pump
actually
Toxic
El patron is turning on us oh nyoo
i remember in bfa
i invited plenty of ferals
they all were dogshit
dogs
wasted my time
and depleted my keys
For every good feral it feels like there 5 bad ones
Power of friendship > all
cuz avarage lfg feral, is the worst possible spec
I am a bad feral tbh
in the game
True be kind to ur druid homies
It’s easier than it was, but I still suck at managing energy. Will take me a few
Just don't feral frenzy at 5 combo points like me n ur already not the worst feral in the game
FF at 5cp is goated cuz you dont risk mages blinking away immediately and not giving you any CPs
Lake ahead of the meta as always
Or get thunderclapped from an ele and get 0 cp

anyone use vuhdo and know how to get focused growth stacks to show up on the lifebloom hot icon
hello, whats currently popular resto legendary for arenas (2s preferably), is it still verdant infusion?
thank you
So I was looking at the pinned balance druid pvp guide, and the talent section just links to the pve guide... What should I be using?
You have to scroll down a bit, the quick links don't go to the same guide, https://www.wowhead.com/guides/balance-druid-pvp-talents-racials
huh cool thanks
No
You can put up caster moonfire then LI moonfire and both debuffs will be on, but one will be ticking for 0
what weapon enchant for feral?
Did boomie get nerfed for the new retail pvp season? I haven't been playing in awhile so not sure if boomie is still fun to 1 shot people lol.
Moonkin got 3 survival nerfs and convoke leggo nerfed as well
That's awful! Is feral the way to go now for pvp? I'd love to start on pushing my rating again, but not sure what the best damage class is now. 😦
Moonkin still strong though, you can pvp with any covenant really, Venthyr prob not the best for arena
Feral got the same survivability nerfs lol
Get outta here
by convoke lego did you mean celestial spirits?
No, sorry. I always associate boat with convoke
ye was just wondering because some people still think the celestial change was a nerf
🤷♂️
That explains why its been easier to put Obese chickens and cats down with my Dk obliterating them
:3
And even resto druids
I've read guides etc but I have one major issue. If I'm getting trained, my hots simply don't keep me up. how do u survive?
also
run away
I can't seem see any enemy unit frames in arenas
how do u run away from a DK or rogue?
try kiting, constant shifting to make sure no slows are on you, if you think you're gonna be kited run guardian affinity, Perhaps also run Flourish, as it makes your hots tick more often. You are a leather class after all so you will be kinda squishy against physical damage
If you want to use thorns, that's a surefire way to get any melee off you
I do all that :/
:/
but once those cooldowns are gone, I can die in 5 seconds or less
Tell your partner to peel,
it's not a duel after all, you shouldn't have to play alone
ok, ty
so anyone else having issues seeing enemy frames in arena? I use gladius but it isn't showing up
Yeah, in general you just need to be good at peeling and your partner too, maybe see if you can get a bash off into cyclone if you're being trained, run away while telling your partner to peel for you so you get some breathing room
@arctic rivet until I instant root your ass in timeout around a pillar
can someone let me know at least if they can see enemy unit frames in arenas anymore? even blizzard ones?
gladiusex was working for me
ok I'll try that, ty
that works \o/
just trying a few skirmishes
what I don't fully understand is how I get totally smashed by 1 melee unless I can get away
but I can just hammer on another healer, even convoke as feral, and they just take it like a boss
there must be something significant I'm missing
so, when I play as resto
even with all my hots up, once cooldowns are gone, I die in seconds if a melee trains me
I’m sure there’s a gear difference
but when I try killing healers on my own, I feel like a mosquito 😄
nah I'm fairly certain it's skill
my gear isn't that bad
What ilvl?
I have no idea what u mean xD
I guess an easy way to answer would be
what sort of dps would u need to take down a disc priest through sheer pressure
Thats not a thing
You dont just beat your ahead against the keyboard doing 'sheer pressure'
that's what works against me when I'm resto tho :<
Then you're playing wrong '-'
I see!










