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Rake is a great spell
Especially if you are playing Draught, Rake is more damage per energy than Shred
So Rake as a filler over Shred is actually a dps gain

shut up pve nerd
I guess its just necrolords playin draught?
Will feral or boomy have more carry potential in 9.1? 2s/3s
im still stuck with eye as kyrian
is necro the move for feral?
Fuji says he played draught as night fae and it was fine
Feral has insane carry potential rn
Right now yes, we cant see into the future tho
ty
Feral is insane insane
You should peep how I carry fuji hardcore
On feral
Just mad cyclones left and right

any stream links? xd
We only kiss and tell we dont kiss and show
thats hot
Always the kill target always getting the CLUTCH cyclones
I'm out here carrying and this guy can only look at damage meters like a PVEER
Guys Polska eliminated from euro
Why didn't El patron order national mourning on this server yet
Lost to slovakia xD
next season are they gonna change current pvp gear to match the new system like
are we going to be lowered from 226 to 220 in pve and have full 233 pvp gear right out the gate?
No
F
Feral looking decent for arenas in 9.1?
Yes
Not much in pins. Any good sources for it?
Mortal strike, 40% slow
Might be biased but Iโm debating between starting the season out on feral ret or ele in 3s along side a warrior. Probably play 2s for some gearing and fun as the healing offspec. What are your thoughts on those 3s comps?
Play what u like
What legendary for feral tho?
Draught
Night fae is fine and good
But we cant see into the future
All 3 covenants are currently viable for any rating goal you have
And none of them is getting changed
what do you guys think about Memory of the Elder Druid for 3s / RBG ?
I'm about to craft my first leg but BOAT seems to be eating a severe nerf (I'm a moonkin, night fae)
That is garbanzo beans
If you want to craft something other than boat for pvp, timeworn dreambinder is the move
And the barkskin leggo is better survivability and more within your control than oath of elder druid
If you really wanted something like that
any one know if the gear from season 1 pvp will be affected by the change coming in 9.1? where pvp gear will be -7ilvl in pve content or do you think only the 9.1 season 2 pvp gear will have that change of into effect?
Current gear isnt getting changed
Iโd say hold your soul ash until Tuesday
yeah I will
Like I went vent and Iโm ripping people in half but for 3s I havenโt tested it. Interested to see how convoke performs with the nerf of boat. If itโs cheeks you didnโt waste it and you can switch covenants to maybe necro or something
i've just tought about venthyr boomy and how to make it less shit. pop ravenous frenzy, stack up the shit by spamming dispell on yourself or some dots. when you get high stack enough, you make a go on a target with incarn + triple surge boat. or Incarn + 4-5 surge dreambinder
shit must slap a bit nah? main problem is how predictable it is. But since no one plays venthyr, i guess its not predictable yet
might aswell play kyrian no?
u get a like what 8 stack go every 1min
instead of a like 10-14 stack every 3mins
honestly maybe its my ilvl or im just good but i av 1.5-2 mill a game. that haste just has me sending wrath and surge all day.
I actualy dont mind it at all. if yall wanna come play let me know haha.
i hit renown 40 in 3 days so i might see this necro hype.
i know its dogshit yall, i fuckin know. im just tryna think of how to make it work
If i wasnt playin pve i wouldnt bother
but now a man's gotta find his way round
U into some specific knowledge that balance side doesnt knwo? share the sauce mate
my pasta are dry
damn
could never go there
Its alright, i never cared for m+
yeah, that is what i feared
i havent looked into the fights that much yet. dont know how much they'll screw the end of ramp up dam
ya damn, sounds like a tough call
might stick to nf early for pvp and early prog and go to vampire if it pulls too much ahead perhaps
im venthyr right now. swapped yesterday after raid, ima grind up to 40 renown and swap back to nf in time for arena open season i think
and then yeah, i'll adjust to venthyr if it pulls too much
im also healing a lot in arena, found it harder as night fae to not be necro, imagine goddamn venthyr
Yeah idk I hit 2100 easy with vent
ya
Itโs sucks at times but like I said that haste hits hard and still 18k surge
On rf
when did you push your 2.1 and in what bracket
...
rbg
you can get 2.1 in rbg with no covenant
no one is going to line your venthyr ramp up in rbg
Gotta be specific then. Iโd see the others being better in arena
hello, do the new dominion sockets matter in pvp at all? i am trying to decide if i should craft draught on neck or chest
hello
balance still using Boat in 9.1 ?
focusing rbg
hum
change for ?
hum
and what about feral ?
will be good for rbg ?
yea that will only really happen if you know people
feral on offense will actually be pretty nuts
in flag maps
with mortal strike and snares
No no feral the goat
we dont play with a warr
but yea getting high in rbgs is literally just who you know lol
im probably going to play feral more next season though as our boomkin wants to fc
so will be interesting
lmao
ikr
im fine with it
Hello what is the current state of feral please
Which build ? The Necrolord ?
Otherwise it's meh / bad ?
Even venthyr ? ๐ ๐คฃ

Cool ๐ Is it the SR LI build ?
I see they play Deep Focus ? is it really that smart ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDl2COs8TmM this one I guess ?(just to be sure)
Hello! in this video you will learn how to do damage while playing the Necrolord covenant + the Savage Roar talent choice as a feral druid. Learning how to do damage is a very important part when it comes to PvP, if you are able to closely maximize your damage output, and know when and where to utilize your damage cooldowns it can take you a lon...
Thank you Glyph !
Uwu
Feral vs Ret for 9.1. Mostly 2s double dps. Tell me now you furrys.
I mean ur on the druid disc buddy
Ofc feral
Yea tank and healer and dps all in 1 cat
What else u need
Damnit. Usually main ret or rogue but ig Iโll do the switch to feral ๐ cat looks OP. NF or Necro the move? 1 min convoke seems nice
Bro you're asking the druid discord tho like
Literally no one in here plays ret
What do you think people will say when you ask em what to play?
Sheesh
Lmao I get it ofc yโall would say Druid. But feral does look nutty in 9.1 getting MS effect.
We'll see
Everyone's getting new tech
Ret and assa rogue have some insane shit too
Assa rogue will be insane, just not double dps other than mage. Ret doesnโt get anything really, I think ret will struggle with all the new MS
Thatโs great until you run into a affliction lock. Or the new shaman flame shock ๐. Then you die
So
Ret doesnt get anything really cuz the new talent isn't gonna be used against aff lock
Ok
Aff lock is dead btw
The elemental dispel protection does like 5k damage
Does 10k+ in recent testing
Trueeee
Much better than any feral leggo
1min convoke look any good?
It's probably better than the other leggos for night fae
I don't think it's very crazy, Convoke still doesnt cast FF in pvp so thats missing half the point of the leggo
The only tangible benefit you get is Niya mastery uptime
its usually 1 bite
and like u dont get to 5 cp after it
cuz less spells
i was liking it at first
but seems kinda garbanzo
and its also garbanzo in pve kinda not a good look
It's only good for resto in raid
I doubt it'll be good for anything else
Like
Idk I feel like you'd just play dreambinder anyway as boomie
You get 1 extra surge either way
And the 5 surges are buffed on avg by 14%
Which is a bit more than niya mastery with only 1 eclipse
Eh
Idk it sounds close
So maybe cuz of the new niya trait that lets you heal someone for a third of their hp if you Convoke near them
That could be nice
Idk
Ret feral time

True
Necro new traits are kinda dogshit I think the boomie necro thing will die out
Feral will prob still be pretty good but
Idk
Other covenants getting more juice
Pelagos and niya specifically
Getting big juice
Yeah
I've changed my mind big time about phial
Before I'd played kyrian I thought it was sick OP
Now after 905
Fleshcraft and soulshape both just straight better
Rsham arms ret season again zzzz
I'm going worgen and nf next patch if I get my r1
You can't stop me
El gran Lobo Malo formrage returns
The big bad wolf
Pogey
yo, what are the rbg bears doing for 9.1? are you switching covenants? is necrolord going to be a thing?
Thank u for all ur hard work ๐ 
UwU
Rbg bears are brainless folks
We dont do anything
Be whatever the fuk u want
As long as its not venthyr


what u are crying about
No Venthyr ๐ฆ I need the trad goth look for my thicc Kul Tiran.
Stop weebing with uwu El patron ๐ 

thank you, i guess ๐
That is not something to cry about
Like others said it doesn't matter too much but kyrian/nf are probably the better options if you really care
being able to blink away from shit is pretty lit
and getting 30k hp from a 0.1 sec convoke with niya
You getting speed gear for 9.1 if you're still playing guardian rbg?
A lot of people gonna have that shit
Since everyone has pretty much figured out how to do it now
What's kombucha tea
How do i get speed gear
@clear pulsar explain yourself
it does
the only thing it works is socket?
yea exactly
you need straddling jewel doublet
then the two unique gems which are 3% and 5%
and get a lot of shit gear with as much gem slots as possible
as a set you can swap to
you gem versa but the stradding jewel doublet increases your speed based on how many shadowlands gems you got socketed
along with the 2 unique speed gems
u can actually base spin the enemy base in eots with that trinket alone
before they cap
i mean
i will never play
guardian in my life
so w/.e
the only moment when i migh consider playing guardian is
when pve gear is disugsting
and i need pve fast
to get it
the gems do
basically just have a set of shit old gear as long as it has gems
and swap gear sets with a bind when you get there

Pog
Gotta remember that for next ssn
Do you need speed gems for it to work,m
?
Or can do without

he started it
U just wilr charge in boomy form then trinket?
Can u solo nyalotha these days?
if you find the vod can you post it?
ive got a friend who has the trinket and has done it ill ask him later
you could get a bunch of people to all spec for trinket
and trade
trinket is for every spec
@tardy hare full socket speed gem steering wheel guardian build
ok wrathion not soloable
retail bg q 6 min
oh
meh ill just get a group and do the trade thing
better chance
i need more sockets tho fack
carry me full honor before ssn @tulip falcon ๐
we already alwasy won eots anyway
in bgs
now we full on banging
are you eu
we actually been doing premades out of boredom last few days lol
wwanna go now?
tianton#2260
oh horde or ally
horde
smhhh
pog
maybe a 3rd class if i have time and its not super time consuming
i thought you were ally anyway
ah
Uh*
big boomy pumper

๐
once ssn starts
whats ur btag anyway ill add as well if we do it later
shambybambie#2295
added both
send gold on stormscale ty
lmao
spec
in the game
unh dk
that is
but is there some catch up gear
cuz my dk
legit died first week of sl
and its like 190 ilvl
i dont wanna be cruel
psychological warfare
run the patient title too or kingslayer
make them feel even worse
Any idea how the resto Druid is going to feel in the 9.1 for RBGs? Any chance to get a group or same like in 9.0.5 good luck and level up a priest o pally or even a resto shaman
rdru is basiclly made
for rbgs
u have to be cute egirl
fresh
cute
and u ask your e-boi
for invite to good grp
and then u roll
u just heal
and remember to drink!!
heal
Well in 9.0.5 I had very bad times to get a group even with 2.1k title
well yea there was like 1 team on eu running an rdruid above 2.4 early season
But with my resto shaman or even with my holy priest it was not so hard
and everyone just stacked priest/pala
nah no one was taking rdruid early season, idk if its diff now
thing is with pugging is you need to play meta
after 3 min of nothing happening i just grab flag
or dont even bother
you only get into groups as non-meta specs if you know people

otherwise you have to meta
i came back end of bfa and didnt know anyone and tried to pug as feral
linking hero and getting denied to 2k groups

eventually pushed to 2.3 still by pugging and networking the new people
well yea
only reason i had any chance is cos of hero exp lmao
its just that priest/pala brought so much
Just to double check what is better bet for RBGs in the next season Rshaman or RDruid (I wish I had time for both but adult life sucks)
they are probably on the same level ye
I know but between these two option?
I am not going to play with my holy pally another season just because they are god
just play whichever you prefer
Cool thanks I am going to drop a coin hahah
and 9.1 could be diff so who knows
we are running mw monk again so
thats something
I see
Letโs go for the water men
most pugs are your typical "have 25% vers" and want to run only meta
idk about now but i hated it when we took rsham in early season when i played
felt like we gimped ourselves
felt useless on flag maps too
we gave some shaman 2.2cr then got rid of him
smh
man's missed 3 links in a single WSG
lmao
Expert Glyph is 3k cr safe r1 in eu
ye lmao
anyways how the fuck do u play venthyr in pvp
yeah prolly doing the same
need that 1st week 2.1 tho
true
oh ye venthyr pump in rbg is actually legit
hasted dots lol
pve gods with dom sockets and venthyr cant wait
Ah ye, daily complain about boomkin being worst spec
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Just came back to wow, and i See there is a patch coming, wondering to play boomie. Are they decent?
I mean he just lost 70 million dolarinos
That's what happens when you anger gamers
Gamers rise up
Yes
Poor crack dealer
Its either boomy or ele ๐
Boomy it is
People sticking to Night fae in 9.1?
im planning to so i can try out the new legendary
does kyrian get anything cool?
will season 1 gear scale up in pvp at all or just season 2?
my rdruid has been dueling a warlock 1v1 in arena
for 25 min
hes starting to lose it

just season 2
Pvp gearing scaling up would be so shit. All my 226 pieces i use in pve droppin to 220 to scale up...
seems like it's going to be painful for new players / rerolls to gear next sesason
Why does everyone act like its suddenly harder to gear up in s2
Compared to literally every other expansion
The ilvl gap literally always got bigger every season
Every expansion
give us bfa system back waiting for random bullshit vault gear
and praying to rng gods
the blue items for returning players/rerolls are going to be scaled up significantly
the main issue is the conquest gear still having 6 item level difference per bracket, that's going to mean you either tryhard from the start of the season (or close to it) or you're kinda screwed
no elite weapons as far as i heard
and 6 item levels isnt stopping anyone from pushing rating
people at 1500 aren't going to be facing people decked out in duelist gear
Its a tea tf u mean
at least rbgs won't be pve lords having a 15 ilvl advantage like it was at the start of s1
well, considering how fast/slowly you'll get your pvp gear. Pve lord will still have a 15 ilvl advantage at the start of s2 too. But it will fall off quicker
u dont know kombucha?
no
Its a kind of sparkling tea from mushrooms or somthing
supposed to be very healthy

Yeah it's a fermented tea
With some yeast or something
Idk
It's nice
Not something you drink everyday but
Good good
well we'll be 2400+ in the first week which was the case in s1 also but there was still like 1 month and a half of massive pve advantage
Polska gurom not into fermented tea
with the scaling in place it shouldn't happen
the issue was renown locking gear upgrades
early season, you'll get at most 2 pieces of pvp gear per week. scaling is nice, but if you only have 2 pvp pieces, it wont even out the edge instantly
after 4-5 weeks of vault and conq
now, that going to even it out and even lean in an advantage
(still better than it was s1 tho)
cuz some advantage is still better than none
^
but having the maximum possible pvp gear and still be outgeared by some mythic raiders who had 15 ilvls more was ridiculous
hopefully there's no renown gating with gear upgrades again
they will at the mid-end of the season
ppl decked out from RBGs qing at lower arena brackets
or boosts
i cant queue rbg, i dont have a steering wheel
Unforch
i doubt it will be as inflated as last season anyway
the participation will prob be like 30% of what it was at the start of s1
yeye I mean I was decked out in conquest gear by the end of february, with 227 so it doesn't really affect me directly, but the last thing I want is a dead ladder for low participation
yea thought so as no elite wep right
do we know what covenant is best for boomy in 9.1?
anything but venthyr is fine
too early to know what meta will prevail and which cov will be the best in it
nf with 1 min convoke as potential
Necrolord is still a damp 15 min bore
kyrian remains similar too
just venthyr that really isnt recommended in arena
Night fae ferals still using Draught?
But some do
nf feral were symmetry i think
nf feral with the 1min convoke sounds pretty nice
I have to flex on these apes alright
Ok got it. Thanks
3 weeks
Just make symmetry
Or play draught / apex if you have one of those for pve
Soul ash is farmable next patch
Ya have apex atm
And you get much more for just the first runs of each wing
Rank 5 and 6 leggos dont cost more soul ash
It's whatever really
I have like, 8k ash
Yeah so
By the time you can make the convoke leggo
You can have 6k more
@stray sigil

well if you're a new player i think the honor grind is too long just to be able to enter arena, and then you're facing RBG challengers at the bottom of the ladder who have 13ilvl higher than you at least
it's kinda ridiculous
i don't think RBG will be like it was at the start of s1
not even close
with the mmr change on top of the low participation it will prob be a lot harder to push
hopefully, it's pretty demoralizing trying to gear a new character and constantly facing against people with 10k+ more HP
assuming they dont revert the mmr change
at the bottom of the ladder
There will be similar gear catch up like the 197 covenant armor @little harness
If you dont want to grind the honor set
Which no one should probably
all vers gear?
You dont need all vers gear lol
Just get weapon rings necklace with vers from pvp that's already like 15% vers
so you don't have vers gear and your opponents are 10ilvl higher than you
I fail to see how that's good
i hope so
No one has new gear yet
Gear comes at a certain cadence
You cant even buy a conquest piece week one
I guess you could a ring
I think if you start trying to gear right at the start of the season you can probably stay caught up
i feel for anyone that can't do that and starts later
The system is somewhat problematic if you're starting 3+ months in
i mean going into pvp undergeared has always been horrible
somewhat lol
except for when there was templating
full honor gear at the bottom of the ladder shouldnt be considered undergeared
thats not something new
It's not that problematic lol if people are at 1400 then they're 1400 regardless of gear
Like here's the thing bro
Their hp number doesnt matter
If you're at 1400 at 200 ilvl
And they're 1400 at 213 ilvl
Then you're both 1400
And that's that
it does when their abilities do so much of your HP % in dmg
You're missing the point
They are winning and losing as many games as you are at the same rating against the same people
You are, for all intents and purposes, decently matched with one another
his point is that if mmr is a metric of their overall ability then it would match you if the mmr is the same as yours
There will be a lot lot less boosting too
with gear included
Since pvp gear isnt gonna be any relevant in pve anymore
ye
i really hope so
and rbg boosting will be 3x as hard
why's that
Idk everyone acts like you need full honor gear to start arena
there will be significantly less participation, less teams to farm
But theres infinite more ways to get gear fast anyway
rbg boosting is so easy this season due to inflation and the amount of randos
Aye
yea rbg participation will probably be like a normal season again
yeah but M+ and raiding are so boring ๐ข
You could just walk through all the pve players on ur way to free gear last ssn
Idk i just did covenant then went straight into arena
And there'll probably be a similar way to gear up in s2
which way is that? that would be on the PTR by now right?
if there's less RBG people at low rating that would definitely help
being in cov gear against RBG rivals ain't fun
PVE boosters gonna have a fun time next patch though lmao
there will be more people at low rating
oh that word
yeah i mean my friends and I got rival in 3s with a lot of playtime and never really did RBGs
felt kinda bad
My team getting 2.4 says plenty about rbg state
Yeah rbgs are wild
I have a collection of screenshots in my server
Of people who are like
400+ rating higher in rbgs than in arena
There are some super wild
theres like 1600 people getting hero this ssn
My team is literally closer to 1k difference
Looks like my team
lol
Just add 300 to rbg and 100 to srena
This may be the best one I have
And its avg my team
i mean im nearly 2.8k in rbgs which is way higher than my arena but i've not really touched it lmao
i think this is comparable to season 12
without the wintrading
that was my first season pvping and I hit 2.6 lmao
like
u queued and would get dogshit russians capping conquest who wintraded to 3k mmr
It's wild isnt it
Like
How 3 or 4 people can solo win an rbg
Out of making one or two nice plays
Cuz the rest of the teams are apes that just stalemate in teamfight
Only rule im bg for the team was
STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM US
what i'm inferring is that this season should actually be a lot less painful for new players starting the honor grind from nothing
i'm glad to have been wrong about this
I keep yelling this to everyone when I join rbgs
I am literally dragging 4 people wherever I go
Thing is
its tilting af
We spam cap bases 2v2
And then mongos follow me around instead of winning the fight
Cause we just double cc cap
7v4
we had that issue with selfplay boosts we were doing, we told them to sit at a base
instead they try to be a hero
and "look good"
We can stay alive like 5v2 for ages
and lost us games
Ye
U shouldve seen us on seething shore or silvershard mines
Enemy was fucking chanceless
i think after a month the bracket will be dead af
literally spec ops
I think there will always be participation at lower end cuz they keep throwing weekly rbg quests out
And it's easy honor/conquest
Truth
But like
Most of the extra participation has been from people wanting easy gear yeah!?
And a lot of that is pveers
yeah
Aye
Or 14hundos that see 40k hp in their games and want to get 40k hp easier as well
if u look at the ladder
Kinda hyped to play rbgs again
like 70% of the ladder is 2.4-2.5 i swear
But really wish i had stronk team
the "real" teams that usually play rbgs are 2.6+
Aye
Gap is nuts
You have the real teams just hella high
Then below that is all clowns
Any real team just walks over the whole fucking ladder
the problem is that once you're high 2.6-2.7 all it is the top 3 teams sniping you for their 2 rating
Yeah it's crazy I think it's something fucked on blizzard's end tbh
Ye u lose once
Maybe they did it on purpose to increase particcipation
I join a pug and in 4 wins we go up 300 mmr
lol yea
reason why we started boosting was cos we got bored and joined a pug on alts
they were 1300 mmr
Lmao
Ahahah
we told them not to speak and just lsiten
ironically they listened to us better than our main team did
Kinda wanna learn all the cheese shit
they swapped targets perfectly
Ye they Hella scared

Bro I hate calling targets
Cuz in pugs like
Same
The leader will tell a warrior or dk to call targets
And they're doing a shit job at it somehow
Then I pick it up
Then they start trying to yell over me
Suddenly now they talk like hell
????
Hate it

It's 15k honor
At most
No good reason to reset
No good reason not to reset
Idk
@tulip falcon @lime light when we pumpin
idk im done with work so whenever
Fair enough
is a 15% nerf to regrowth in pvp for ferals not that much?
It's about the same nerf that every big offhealer got
Ooz's Frictionless Coating's absorb value reduced to 7.5% maximum health in PvP Combat.
Haha
Soulsteel Clamps now reduces duration of stun and incapacitate effects by 15% (was 30%).
Familiar Predicaments now reduces incoming interrupt, snare and root effects by 15% (was 25%).
Sulfuric Emission fear duration reduced to 3.5 seconds (was 4.5 seconds).
Sparkling Driftglobe Core cooldown increased to 1 minute (was 45 seconds) and now triggers at 30% health (was 35%).
(this is the stun from kyrian)
Link me this page

interesting
finally some full patch notes
tired of looking through diff ones from different dates
Good changes that they literally just mentione in the very last week before patch
The soulbind defensive traits one
You think dh is gonna be good in 9.1 these changes all seem legit
Maybe lil feral dh?
It has some nice new tech for sure
emerald slumber is gonna make flag maps in rbgs a residentsleeper
guessing it will be 45 secs to recharge the 3min cds
It has a limited duration you know that ye?
It's basically a 40s cd reduction
On a 2 min cd
ah i didnt see that on the tooltip
Imagine
thats still pretty good
thats what i was thinking lmao
indeed
still takes off enough to probably have it on every inc
Yeah
my ret partner says specific queueing AV is better honor than random epics
what do you guys think? maybe after daily win?
yeah i think his concern is getting IoC constantly or something
so really it will just vary huh
yeah AV queue vs random epics
most AV games are pretty quick but that's anecdotal
i've always found normal random bgs the fastest way to farm honor
but if you go with like 2-3 people you can easily carry most bgs
i hadnt seen that in the earlier notes. Is it a recent nerf / fix?
Fixed an issue that allowed Adaptive Swarm to incorrectly affect Regrowth's initial heal.
@tardy hare iam shilling ouside gonna be late 22:30
Already did I work off of impulse decisions

You think 15% to regrowth is gonna matter much
Feel like the 11-12k regrowth crits being 10k now arent the end of the world
The ret nerfs is brutal
Fuck ret
Outside of cds wog wont heal for dick
what they doin to ret
It's the same nerf as regrowth tho lol
frenzied regen also got a nerf
Healing hands buffs it by up to 70%, now it'll be 50% = 12% nerf to wog
Literally smaller than regrowth
full notes
Hahahah
Nerfing my regrowh
U done Blizzard
Iam the last person
U wanna fuck with
nerfed regrowth and fixed initial regrowth benefitting from swarm
gladly
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