but i've seen feral frost mage against me once (resto arms) and it was cancer
#pvp
blissful belfry
ashen spire
haha thanks for the tip
heady sierra
Does the lloa bleed effect bleed conduit?
potent meadow
is savage roar dynamic? like will it boost currently running dots
junior plover
Yes
It's dynamic
Everything is dynamic in this game
Some things additionally snapshot on top of that
Like TF
lime light
I forgot who i wanted to tag
wise valley
sr convoke might be the move
lime light
No
wise valley
why
lime light
Bad for your health
wise valley
hm
tiny oar
Lol
small storm
i think i parked myself at like 1.7
tiny oar
Even tho u friends with filthy getrow
clear pulsar
Lake when are you coming back
small storm
clear pulsar
I miss u bb
tiny oar
me n f2f ripped up the fucking feral rdruid 2s dont h8
tiny oar
Lake when are you coming back
Mayb never idk lot going on still love all the druid homies tho 💚 keep grinding
sleek raven
if i hit 30% vers on resto druid should i go for sockets haste in pvp ?
tiny oar
Girlfriend ?
Lol I dont talk to human beings buddy
lime light
tiny oar
if i hit 30% vers on resto druid should i go for sockets haste in pvp ?
If you're close to a clone timing breakpoint like 1 gem will make ur clone go from 1.4 to 1.3 then prolly worth ig, but otherwise I'd just go with max versa, more overall benefits
Pretty small player power upgrade either way
sleek raven
If you're close to a clone timing breakpoint like 1 gem will make ur clone go fr...
how to check breakpoints ?
tiny oar
how to check breakpoints ?
It's just certain haste % knocks .1s on clone, think it's something like 16% and 21% iirc. But looks like kubzy is going full haste after 30% versa so prolly fine either way
honest mesa
It's just certain haste % knocks .1s on clone, think it's something like 16% and...
I thought this was a thing of the past and now haste scales in smaller intervals. Ex. 1.3768s ?
tiny oar
Mayb I got no clue ask our boi f2f
All it comes down to is like 6% haste/ 3% vers ain't gonna be the difference between 1800- 2400 2400-r1 etc. Improving gameplay is vastly more important
misty shuttle
what would u folks say is the strongest pvp solo class at the moment
hexed prairie
hey guys what enchant should i use as g druid for rbgs?
junior plover
I thought this was a thing of the past and now haste scales in smaller intervals...
Yeah I think breakpoints only refer to things like Incap into Clone now
Or DB into Poly famously
tiny oar
Hey me too high five
dreamy pond
Girlfriend ?
Yeah the wife comes after wow no matter what. Homies over hoes my man
green valve
Only gets worse
Throw in a baby
Play time murdered
Stay single bois enjoy money and free time
mystic sparrow
I deleted all my honor gear…. 😢
junior plover
oh lmao u need this season's honor gear
are they brainless for real
Luckily we're looking at 2.5 months until the honor gear is relevant
so can stock up on honor until then
hardy cargo
what would u folks say is the strongest pvp solo class at the moment
Paladin probably
green valve
Luckily we're looking at 2.5 months until the honor gear is relevant
Like this is so fing asinine
Didnt play season 1?
WELL GET FUCKED FOR 3 MONTHS
By s1 duelists+
Blizzard wtf lol
clear pulsar
Huh?
Where are you getting this info from?
That is 'Unchained Aspirant'
Are you guys daft or?? @junior plover
green valve
What u mean
junior plover
for the game
junior plover
The fact that you cant compete with seaon 1 gear for 3 months?
green valve
Says renown 59 for the 233 honor gear lol
junior plover
Sure you get some conquest here or there
at best probably 2 months until you're full conq
green valve
I mean its fine for us in duelist shit lol is what were sayin
clear pulsar
Renown 59 won't take 3 months
green valve
Go in at no gear youre just fed lol
junior plover
Not sure how much the story will give, but even if its something absurd like 10
which i very much doubt
green valve
We got 3 renown a week in 9.0 right?
junior plover
we're still looking at 5 weeks before you can even start to hope to compete
green valve
So 59 is week 7
green valve
Yea 2 from the weeklys and 1 campaign a week
junior plover
Not every week had campaign
clear pulsar
The initial cap will be 226 ilvl in pvp
junior plover
more like 2.5 but true
clear pulsar
Every week had campaign
junior plover
clear pulsar
You got 3 every week until the campaign was over
junior plover
Right
clear pulsar
Regardless
junior plover
The initial cap will be 226 ilvl in pvp
wdym by that
clear pulsar
The further cap will be increasing to 229 in pve which is 242 in pvp
green valve
Thought it was 220 till 59
junior plover
viscid remnant
imagine not quitting already
viscid remnant
stop delaying the inevitable
junior plover
This is wrong
green valve
Youll be saving for weapon so 1 conq pcs a week
junior plover
That's what I've been going off of
clear pulsar
I'm opening the game
junior plover
But you can clearly tell
These ilvls are wrong
The screenshot says 229 max ilvl pve
The trinket screenshot
Unless it shows pvp ilvl for some reason
green valve
These ilvls are wrong
Thats good then if actual will be higher
junior plover
Then face is wrong and we're victorious
green valve
LOL
green valve
Either way we win
junior plover
🤝
green valve
VICTORY
green valve
clear pulsar
You can upgrade to 203(216) when season starts
Season 1 geared people will be 10 ilvls higher
It's the same issue we had at the start when every pveer was bitching about how much better pvp gearing was
Except we were all wearing 184 ilvl gear on 10+ slots
For over a month of season
green valve
Like real talk the ilvs are but like get rid of the renown gate
Max gear is 216 in pve
Like that sucks why gate it
normal tide
Just in case someone starts playing late
They have to go thru all the boring and pointless stuff we’ve done!
clear pulsar
Like real talk the ilvs are but like get rid of the renown gate
Not even that
I think it's the other way around rather
Renown gate sucks but
Get rid of this insane difference in power level between honor and conquest
junior plover
No are u dumb
how will they keep people
subbing for months then
???
THINK FACE THINK
clear pulsar
Using current numbers, make honor gear like 184 in pve and 210 in pvp, conquest gear 200 in pve and 226 in pvp, then as you unlock the elite set slots you can upgrade those slots' conquest items to 216 in pve / 233
There you go
I fixed the system
junior plover
You could do anything
and the system would be fixed
it's really simple and there's a thousand ways
lime light
Stop the xd kid
primal bane
how's druid looking in 9.1
junior plover
COPE IS BACK
brave vortex
I have two friends I pvp with we’re trying to get our 3s comp decided for next season. They play spriest and rogue. I was a playing feral but they’re asking me to do the healing. I like rdruid a lot and I’m starting to get somewhat decent at it but they’re all about going rsham bc it fits well (according to wowhead lol). What do some of you badass rdruid think about me sticking with Druid for that comp?
junior plover
rdru is just fine for spriest rogue
And until you hit like 2500 rating healer choice mostly doesnt matter
as long as you dont stack classes
split pollen
does convoke ignore feared targets?
blissful belfry
convoke will not hit targets affected by breakable cc. It will also not hit targets cycloned
so, yes. convoke ignores feared targets
only way convoek breaks a cc is if the cc is put on during convoke and a traveling wrath or surge hits it.
(or if you are in melee range and it casts thrash)
split pollen
ooo it won't hit cycloned targets now too?!
green valve
Is the 1 min convoke gonna be good for you nf feeals
Feel like itd be easier to pull off in a stun no?
amber pond
New to PVP and can't test this at the moment, but does Verdant Infusion extend either/both of Adaptive Swarm (duration of current stack?) or Frenzied Regeneration?
junior plover
it really is
clear pulsar
New to PVP and can't test this at the moment, but does Verdant Infusion extend e...
U cant extend FR, you can extend swarm
blissful belfry
i never even thought of extending FR. That would be so fucking sick tho. Would only be possible on WHI proc
but extending FR by 10s hahahahaha
fuckin wild
amber pond
U cant extend FR, you can extend swarm
How does AS extension work? Does it just extend the current stack?
amber pond
Ive done some 2s, but Im new to 3s. Are there any good resources for learning nuances of comps?
For example, we plan to run RDruid/Frost Mage/MM for early games to get familiar with the 3s flow. Are there any recommended resources useful for covering the nuances/tips/tricks for such a comp?
Optimal comps/specs aside, I care more about learning where to find such information more so than this particular comp
spiral fjord
hey guys, i cant find any resources on pvp guardian for rbgs, anyone got some tips? talents/conduits?
misty shuttle
folks what is a really strong comp for feral in 2v2?
ppl say easiet to get to 1600 in rbgs but gonna try arenas cos rbgs have been absolute trash for me last 2 weeks
misty shuttle
ok ty
spiral fjord
ret double dps was a lot easier than resto
misty shuttle
what's your playstyle with those comps?
spiral fjord
esp with your offhealing as feral
misty shuttle
are you a CC / clone bot?
spiral fjord
with ret you try to keep ret alive as much as possible
while ccing the healer if they have one like mad
with resto you cc the heal and focus the dps
switch if you face a resto druid, switch often
misty shuttle
ok ty
spiral fjord
biggest troubles i had was fire/rogue and disc
also against double dps , be ready to spam heal even if you play with heal
and go bear often
spiral fjord
I love resto but i suck at it, not much burst healing this season
misty shuttle
I got the draught of deep focus lego so possibly could work?
spiral fjord
but good players do good with it
i ll let better resto players answer you , i play with the shadowmend one
but i only tried it to like 1400
grizzled trail
how do i deal with rouges ninjacapping in RBG as a boomie?
tardy hare
Press de treants
arctic rivet
Resto really shines in CC more than their heals
Which is why Resto druids are insane
Get Feral Affinity and you have Rake, Pound, Cyclone, Roots
junior plover
folks what is a really strong comp for feral in 2v2?
The best 2s comp for feral by far is Hpriest + Feral
misty shuttle
really? O.o
junior plover
But any healer works
there's a big gap between anything other than hpriest and other healers though
disc is closest
rsham probably good with necro now
misty shuttle
I r NF
keen phoenix
Why is hpriest+ feral so good?
steep bane
because hpriest is a top tier healer actually. so it works good with any comp. because of his dmg , mind game , stun ,fear ,mc .
keen phoenix
He mind games kill target when I stun healer?
misty shuttle
guys what on earth? I was behind a wall and this hit me?
tiny tusk
slow socket
My bro is playing an arcane mage and I'm trying to decide between feral, WW or hunter to play with him. Any thoughts? Thanks
inner tiger
I've noticed a large number of people boosting balance druids... all with the same mog, all female nelf.... what is happening?
polar nymph
My bro is playing an arcane mage and I'm trying to decide between feral, WW or h...
Feral or Resto Druid have very strong synergy with Arcane (Resto as long as you catweave).
tiny oar
Yea arcane rdruid rips played it with cokez earlier in ssn
Have ur mage play the execute legendary no triune baby shit n just arcane barrage slap ppl 30-0
forest kite
do feral dots snapshot with necro warrior banner? the conqueror's banner
blissful belfry
no, its dynamic
everything in the game is dynamic apart from 2-3 mechanics specific to feral
which you can see reading the tooltip
like bloodtaalon '' ... the damage of your next 2 rips or ferocious bites is increased byu 30%''
and tigers fury '' ... and increases the damage of all your attacks by 15% for their full duration..''
If its not mentioned in the tooltip that it applies for the full duration of your next ability or dot. then its not snapshot
junior plover
He mind games kill target when I stun healer?
Hpriest has a ranged 4s incap
You don't even have to stun the healer
They incap healer, you maim kill target, mindgames and then the priest fears the healer
Altho now that feral goes necro you don't have to be on kill target forever during the go and you can jump off to bash the healer
So disc is decent too
But hpriest has biggest damage, good safety, their guardian spirit cooldown is exceptionally good with feral since you can just self heal to full hp, and chastise is great
lime light
Stop talking
lime light
good deskoterapia in brazil
if u are a thief
can u check somewhere the sub time tho
or only in the bank site lmao
viscid remnant
if u have active sub it doesnt show how many u ahve till next payment
if u cancel then it would appear there
viscid remnant
😳
lime light
👉🏿 ❤️
viscid remnant
tiny oar
💚
tardy hare
https://tenor.com/view/monka-steer-pepe-pepe-the-frog-gif-19881925
Me killing a rogue that incs my base
tardy hare
Chanceless
viscid remnant
skrt skrt on them mfs
tardy hare
Hit them with the truck
tiny oar
Me killing a rogue that incs my base
Ur lucky trix the rabbit rogue wasn't in that ng to cap ur ass mdr lol
tardy hare
junior plover
Me killing a rogue that incs my base
After he solo caps you?
tiny oar
lime light
@tiny oar remember next time, whne u check out that girl anus
that girls are temporary
and jungle bois are forever
lime light
they are 
tiny oar
and jungle bois are forever
Tru brother tru
tiny oar
are they actually tho
Longer than most marriages xd
lime light
also jungle is almost like marriage
u got a pet
hunter's one
u got a babi
disc priest that dies to everything and ooms in 1 min
junior plover
It's something
But last rank requires Renown 75
so you might as well just get full honor gear
viscid remnant
Xd
ebon vortex
nah its at least 2 months
they normally announce the release like a month before
new dungeon only just got put on PTR and is bugged already so thats still gonna need to be fixed
halcyon idol
yeah xd
i just wanna build a leggo for this time since i dont have any
im like 185 ilvl lol
i think imma build balance of all things in shoulders maybe? since i have a decent boots rn i think xd
ebon vortex
you prolly have enough to get 2 rank 4 leggos before 9.1 comes out lol
halcyon idol
yeahhh
halcyon idol
alright thats cool
yeahh
if it doesnt matters is all good
how do i open the leggo window inside wow?
i gotta check if its possible to craft tht in shoulder
i think is just legs or boots
for that leggo
gloomy nova
Has there been any news regarding soul ash/leggo crafting in 9.1?
junior plover
Yes
Soul Ash will no longer have a weekly limit
You can also trade ash between characters
There's a new mega soul ash but idk what that's about
halcyon idol
do i go full haste vers? @blissful belfry
@ebon vortex
or crit vers?
for pvp balance
viscid remnant
tiny oar
viscid remnant
I have not read all of this but seems good from the bits i saw
Mby worth pinning for ppl that ask about guardian in rbg?
lime light
lime light
permission denied
junior plover
The information took 30 minutes to process in his dementia brain
junior plover
lime light
And the priority on it was pretty low
green valve
Ppayed some feral spriest rsham yesterday with some buds
Wasnt bad
Think itll be pretty good come 9.1 with ms?
stray sigil
yes
green valve
Currently rets ww n enh just w key at the spriest its a bit tough to cc and off heal him since they just dump massive heals into themselves
Lmao 90% of disc chat was him going "HELP IM DEAD"
deep rampart
i was looking forward to trying out necrolord moonkin in pvp but now they might be removing prickling thorns x[
tiny tusk
still got alotta time to meme around with it
green valve
i was looking forward to trying out necrolord moonkin in pvp but now they might ...
i dk i tried that it was kinda terrible
rooting someone and swarming is like a giant "DISPEL THIS DUDE"
found it more fun to play the same way you did with kyrian and fury of elune just swarm the fury go
junior plover
Ppayed some feral spriest rsham yesterday with some buds
its my bet for best feral comp in 9.1
well unless its jungle again
rsham dispel protection + mortal strike in that comp
sounds bonkers
green valve
Yea we crushed casters and mixed
eternal wind
Oh yea feral gets mortal strike now right? Nutty
green valve
Was just a pia vs cracked out double mele
junior plover
its just on rip and rake
eternal wind
Yeah and its 100% uptime
What %?
eternal wind
Ooh
green valve
Was running resto affinity most games too, noone bothered me with a spriest lol
summer cliff
Is haste far behind mastery, or pretty close for feral?
summer cliff
got full haste gear as necro rdru, but wanna do some feral, but lacking like 25% mastery
ah damn
summer cliff
guess i'll play some necro boomie then
ye, think I'll farm some mastery gear as boomie/rdru instead
deep rampart
will kyrian still be good in arenas with the changes
summer cliff
So @lime light, do you say Kiosk was incorrect?
and i would want to ask... is there no fourth rule about trusting El Patron?
junior plover
And third rule is, never trust a Kiosker % graph
El Patron has dementia
old man
You can sim haste vs mastery if you'd like just patchwerk pve
it'll be quite accurate
clear pulsar
I think better if I come to polish
lime light
Oki
I will get u a flat
And a job
The only thing u gonna cry about
Is Polish internet
So dogshit
bright root
For feral, i have solid pve gear with excellent stats, but my vers is at like 8%. Ilvl is 223. If I get into arena and put on everything with versatility gear it puts me at 20% versatility, but drops me to 213 ilvl. What's better option?
lime light
Play 223
clear pulsar
Only things really worth dropping are non-main stat slots
You can drop 4 or 7 ilvls on some armor it's fine but not much point
But rings and necklace you should wear the conquest ones if you have them
green valve
True
summer cliff
is 18% bp?
bright root
Roger that, thanks guys, I know versatility is important since feral is squishy but I feel like 10 overall item levels is too much to lose
green valve
Yea what face and el padrino said keep the high ilv main stat pcs
Jewelry and trinkets are fine to drop for pvp pcs
bright root
My two rings are pretty solid for PvE, I have low ilvl dungeon rings with versatility though really just starting out on Druid for twos and threes
junior plover
Is Polish internet
untrue
maybe if you're a pleb
but polish internet is like one of the best in the world
no cap
eastern europe in general
has pog internet
people in the US paying $80 for 20mb/s lmao
clear pulsar
Roger that, thanks guys, I know versatility is important since feral is squishy ...
Versatility is hte best stat for every spec and it doesn't have anything to do with feral being squishy, feral is easily one of the tankiest dps in the game
summer cliff
can you even play at 20mbit/s?
bright root
Guess I need to find better feral pvp resources lol
lime light
what do u need
patron is super drunk
but still the best pvp resource around
u are lucky
clear pulsar
I pay a whole 40 dollars a month for 300mbps
lime light
and u got a fever
bright root
Haha I play feral in mid/midhigh keys and in raid, but really enjoy doing arena and bgs as feral. I feel like I'm missing some key parts of it that will probably make sense with enough games. I don't even know WHAT I'm missing, just that it doesn't feel right.
summer cliff
face2face, where do u live?
clear pulsar
@lime light i'm impersonating you
lime light
😠
bright root
Some people say to spread pressure and others say focus on one target... I have a few people who play classes feral is strong with like hpriest, lock, uh
lime light
what covenant
clear pulsar
face2face, where do u live?
summer cliff
🥂
clear pulsar
bright root
https://tenor.com/view/dance-uporot-brazil-gif-13264739
Holy shit that looks like my dog
junior plover
https://tenor.com/view/poland-polish-soccer-fans-cheer-gif-5876988
why dont this work
lime light
Kaczorek
vast pumice
caraio vé
young walrus
what soulbind do you use for rbgs as NF balance?
rigid linden
tiny oar
tiny oar
Large F
That happened to me a couple years ago
The nail just went straight in like I hammered it on tho
frozen ermine
tiny oar
Hokies
junior plover
tiny oar
Ya that's like warrior rdruid losing to feral disc
junior plover
Lol does that beat warr rdruid now
Idk I haven't played almost any necro in 2s
But sounds like an alright matchup
Plate won't stop my BLEEEEDS
lime light
no
do u understand
u are on a clock
facing venthyr arms as priest
if warrior couldnt go for your healer
u should win 100% of the games vs warrior
as necro
but thats not a thing
junior plover
if warrior couldnt go for your healer
He can't because his brain is fried
lime light
ye he will start on u, but if u start kiting, he will just hit whatever he can, so the priest
and at some point he finds out
thats a free win
might take some time tho
obtuse ice
tiny oar
🤢
serene heart
viscid remnant
Yes
tall flicker
why is crit least important for feral pvp?
dark scroll
Do you need to be guardian spec to get frenzied regeneration conduit?
lime light
cuz everything is better
dark scroll
From plaguefall
lime light
no
forest kite
Do you need to be guardian spec to get frenzied regeneration conduit?
if you mean well honed instinct, no
to get it yeah actually sorry read it wrong
change your loot spec to it, its stupid af how it works
viscid remnant
conduit drop regardless of lootspec
junior plover
why is crit least important for feral pvp?
It's just bad
Comparably to mastery haste anyway
The value of crit in pve stems from averaging out it's value over a long encounter
In pvp you don't want to not be able to kill someone because you didn't roll a crit and you put all of your investment into it
It's also less good if you don't use your builders with 100% uptime because a large part of crit's value is getting extra combo points
So if you're not pressing a builder because you're healing, casting clone, doing literally anything else
Crit value drops
But it's not TERRIBLE, if you're not necro it's still better than haste and for necro crit isn't that much worse than haste
It's really that mastery is broken for feral pvp
wise valley
@forest kite all conduits drop no matter loot spec
forest kite
i must have been unlucky did plague 15 times ended up getting it first time when i swapped guardian loot
wise valley
If anduin doesn't use the power of shalamyne to break free and behead sylvanas and the jailer before dabbing on their headless corpses I quit
lime light
iam cute and i know it
green valve
Did some shitty 1.9-2k 2s yesterday while still learning feral, warr healer wasnt bad, bm wasnt bad tbh, ww healer roasted my butthole tho
But i might just be playing that wrong
dim abyss
How do you all open in arena as feral? That's first question. Second,how do you deal with rets? I spend too much time trying to cc and my teammates just get blown up
tribal crane
How do you all open in arena as feral? That's first question. Second,how do you...
Are you necro ?
dim abyss
Are you necro ?
i am, yes. im trying to watch videos. im opening with cc's. it seems im doing that all wrong
tribal crane
I wouldnt open with ccs, get some bleeds up, be in and out heal teammmate if they need it. I use roar and my rotation is usually from stealth Fury-Rake-frenzy-swarm/berserk-rip-roar-moonfire-shred-roar
then maintain bleeds do your ccs heals etc
moonfire if for your combo points if they're far away etc
tribal crane
i am, yes. im trying to watch videos. im opening with cc's. it seems im doing t...
If you use soul forest talent its fury-rake-frenzy-swarm/zerk- rip- moonfire
Soul of the forest is less ramp up time
then its just getting used to it lol
dim abyss
I wouldnt open with ccs, get some bleeds up, be in and out heal teammmate if the...
cool. yeah, found the opening rotation. ill start doing my opener when i actually open from now on lol. do you have any advice on rets? i just cant seem to figure out wth to do.
tribal crane
cool. yeah, found the opening rotation. ill start doing my opener when i actual...
lol so it depends on their go, duck, dodge, dip, dive lmao. Nah but seriously use your cds good thing about necro you have a go like every 45 seconds or so. Try to dmg enough for bubble run and if you just cc them during wings.
Its more manuvering for their huge dmg potential. Also thorns since rets are kinda braindead and just attack into everything lol
dim abyss
lol so it depends on their go, duck, dodge, dip, dive lmao. Nah but seriously us...
lol. gotcha
tribal crane
cool. yeah, found the opening rotation. ill start doing my opener when i actual...
Snupy is good feral, he plays convoke and necro def watch him and he answers most questions in chat
dim abyss
Its more manuvering for their huge dmg potential. Also thorns since rets are kin...
yeah. i really should switch to thorns on rets. i didnt think about it. tyvm
dim abyss
Snupy is good feral, he plays convoke and necro def watch him and he answers mos...
awesome. ill will def check them out
tribal crane
yeah. i really should switch to thorns on rets. i didnt think about it. tyvm
I always use leader of pack, thorns and strength of wild for the quick heals on teammates and when caster comp take out thorns and go bite. Havent had any issues with it. Besides them bm hunters lol
simple little things that can def make a difference ya know, only way to master it is hella practice lol
dim abyss
I always use leader of pack, thorns and strength of wild for the quick heals on ...
ty for the advice. thats what i run always (leader, strength, and bite). i need to swap in thorns for melee. 100 percent on the practice. im still pretty new to arenas, let alone feral. some of these specs i just cant figure them out. i have a problem against lock with shadow priest but thats for another day. thanks alot for the advice
tribal crane
lmao yea man again this is all my opinion, if others chime in with other suggestions all good lol. ( depends on the match up, usually go priest ) lmao
clear pulsar
You rly should make sure you have roar up before you FF imo
Like
It's kinda half the reason to run it
To begin with
tribal crane
lmao you're not wrong i fucked up on my opener haha fury rake roar frenzy
my b
lol
green valve
Rets a big pia
Ret go is seraphim > hoj > wings + divine toll > final reckoning > final verdict > wake > fv
The biggest damage in the combo is the dt fr fv wake
If its on you and you can pre bear barkskin the hoj if you dont have trinket you should live if your healer isnt ccd
If you have trinket its worth trinketing the hoj and ccing and running
Use bark tho since the burst is completely ranged getting out of mele isnt enough
Ret will ALWAYS seraphim before a go so you can use that as an indicator to cc/play defensive/run
clear pulsar
Ret's cooked yeah
Cuz like
All their shit is 15-20yd range
They whine about mobility but
THey don't need to be in melee
If they were a melee glass cannon it'd feel more balanced for sure
clear pulsar
Honestly bro I swear necro ret is crazy
It adds a very very decent amount of damage
But the extra survivability is just way better than kyrian
clear pulsar
Yeah
clear pulsar
Ret arms that turtles
lime light
they gonna die at some point
clear pulsar
Cant die ever
lime light
but ret arms dampeners
cant die
with rsham
cuz rsham dont spend any mana
to heal them
till like 40% damp
green valve
Yea i play ret too, honest truth i either get globaled or cant die
Like an enh taking you from 90% to 10% in 1.3 sec with 27 windfurry hits
Feel safer on feral
Ferals very chill, ret my butt cheeks are clenched start to finish
clear pulsar
Go necro bro
On GOD
I think pikachu has been necro on his main for like 2 months
It adds like 7-9k damage to every go
Less than divine toll but no RNG
green valve
Yea maybe plague tree is pretty op
ashen spire
is spriest a good partner for feral 2s?
woeful epoch
I hit 60 2 weeks ago and got 1800 with Feral + Hpriest (I was 205 ilvl, he's 220). Feelsgood 😎
keen phoenix
Probably not it first time playing feral tho
woeful epoch
Referring to me or another comment @keen phoenix ?
We played WW+Disc to 2k, but it's first time playing as/with Feral
misty shuttle
how much haste do u need to incap -> cyclone?
blissful belfry
0%
wether you can incap clone depends if the target has dots on or not. If no one breaks incap, it lasts long
misty shuttle
hmmm ok I see
seemed to end just before I finished the cast, perhaps he had a bleed on him
stray sigil
if they play rele u cant incap clone iirc
misty shuttle
it was a mage, so possibly arcane shield didn't help
clear pulsar
wether you can incap clone depends if the target has dots on or not. If no one b...
That's not true
GCD + Cyclone is 3.2s while incap roar is 3s
You need 7% haste
keen phoenix
@woeful epoch yeah, just seems like u know ur way around feral if u get to 1,8 at 205 ilvl. WP
misty shuttle
@woeful epoch you are 1.8 with 205 ilvl? teach me!
woeful epoch
It's not as different from WW as I'd have thought. Definitely digging the SR Necro build.
keen phoenix
Starting my SL feral adventure tomorrow. Already at 1,8 in rbg, so gear is decent. Not sure if RBG or arena is the easiest path to 2,1
woeful epoch
I've heard RBG > 3s > 2s in terms of ease of gearing. I think RBG is more about having the right group/guild, though for topend.
keen phoenix
Will also go SR necro, looks great
misty shuttle
what's SL again?
keen phoenix
Just pugged rbg to 1,8 in about 70 games, easy as pie. Would have done it faster but started with 160 ilvl
clear pulsar
Oh no this guy again
misty shuttle
😦
woeful epoch
One thing I am trying to focus on is getting value out of Predatory Swiftness. It's such a strong passive. (my last game vs Arms HPal went 7 min and I cast 38 regrowths, couple entangles). I'm very unused to fighting into spell reflect, though, so have to get used to that.
keen phoenix
But think I might have to get a steady rbg group for 2,1.
U playing guardian or resto affi?
woeful epoch
Primarily Guardian, went resto into some double dps that I believed would train priest. Swiftmend while they Guardian Spirit themselves is soo good
Like half my time on druid was setting up macros/binds/weakauras and watching videos.
misty shuttle
how much do u think that helps?
not done that yet really
other than mouse over healing macros
woeful epoch
Regrowth for Party1 or @timber finch is essential, cyclone on focus or arena123, whatever shapeshift macro suits you is important as well. Otherwise it's more preference than anything.
misty shuttle
O.o I just shapeshift manually
clear pulsar
stray sigil
what does shift manually mean
misty shuttle
well, with keyboard buttons
clear pulsar
People have this weird infatuation with 'macros'
blissful belfry
shapeshifting with keybind is fine mate
stray sigil
u dont need shift macros lol
completely up to u
some people like some !cat form
so u cant spam it
and go out of cat
and have a cancelform macro
clear pulsar
By default you can spam the key and it won't take you out
stray sigil
no lol
blissful belfry
well, when you shift in cat form, your gcd locked and it doesnt allow you to shift out byu deefautl<
ya
clear pulsar
There's a cvar that makes shifting out on form global or not
blissful belfry
im not a good enough spammer
stray sigil
dude go test it in game
its not even hard to spam whatsoever
double click on most and u go out
blissful belfry
yeah im testing live, just gimme a sec, ima fire up the fingers
stray sigil
face is wrong
blissful belfry
ya, cant do it
clear pulsar
Bro
stray sigil
i can do it super easily lol
blissful belfry
CRAP
woeful epoch
This is the one I made:
/cast [mod:shift, noform:1][nomod,form:2]Bear Form;[nomod,noform:2]Cat Form;[noform,@flef]Wild Charge
/cancelform [mod:alt]
Not necessary by any means, but nice to have it all in the same place and most importantly, be able to cancelform vs Hibernate or Scare Beast while disabled.
misty shuttle
as resto having an incap bear form cancel macro might be useful actually
blissful belfry
nat really, just casting whatever spell you need to cast will shift you out automatically
and if u aint needa cast anything, might as well be in bear
misty shuttle
ah cool
clear pulsar
Your ui ugly af
stray sigil
ah doublelift stream
ruby tide
for surv and dmg?
woeful epoch
Fuji, how do you respond to warbreaker? I've been doing Thorns on teammate and bear/frenzy on self, but not sure if there's a better consistent option.
stray sigil
what spec are u playing ?
woeful epoch
Feral, mostly guardian affinity
woeful epoch
If he's on HPriest, try to distance and cc? or just heal since spell reflect?
woeful epoch
makes sense. I was thinking about making a /stopcasting soothe macro
woeful epoch
tru
clear pulsar
Focus soothe what a pveer XD
woeful epoch
Interesting. I couldn't fit rejuvenation and soothe on binds so I'll have to figure something out
stray sigil
focus soothe for the refelct on healers bro wtf i dont do pve
hoesntly
resto aff kinda dead meme
incap way too insane
woeful epoch
Yeah? Enjoyed swiftmend vs fire mage
stray sigil
dont remember last time i played resto aff tbh
might have been vs splay or something in 3s
clear pulsar
Thing is
Regrowth does as much as swiftmend
With strength of the wild guaranteeing crit
woeful epoch
Fuji, what's your stream? I heard you were a good source, but couldn't find it.
woeful epoch
ty, trying to learn whatever I can (new to druid)
stray sigil
im not affiliated or anything so i dont think vods save for long
so i dont have much there lol
clear pulsar
stray sigil
axtin streams a lot though
woeful epoch
guess you have to stream again then (o.O)/
stray sigil
@clear pulsar hm ms u have
stray sigil
just saying does look laggy though
@woeful epoch i dont rly like streaming 3s i do stream 2s sometimes though
woeful epoch
Are Resto Shams harder for any reason? Saw on Luduslabs it + arms was hard. Purge/Earthen Wall?
stray sigil
like when i carried @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
Yeah right
woeful epoch
I'm only 2v2 atm, might grab a hunter for end-of-season
clear pulsar
Check cyclones cast kid
stray sigil
uh
clear pulsar
Check biggest bites
clear pulsar
Luduslabs is not a relevant source for much of anything @woeful epoch
stray sigil
they all cheesing the ele leggo though
clear pulsar
Those things rely on people uploading their matches thru reflex logs or some shit
And there's like 12 people total that even know what luduslabs is
woeful epoch
yeah, sample size issues for sure. I thought it'd be easier b/c Hex isn't an issue. Earthen wall does seem annoying though
stray sigil
tbh if ur playing like
necro feral hpriest
only hard thing is bm/healer
and like
war/rdru
woeful epoch
Do you ever swap in RDruid matchups? Not sure how best to maximize Draught of Deep Focus there
stray sigil
uh prob do swtich im gkinda lazy if i see cat aff rdru i just run at him all game and cc war
can switch off cen ward i suppose
woeful epoch
Some advice on here was to always go DPS except for Hunter, but Entangle kiting seems high potential. What conditions help you choose your kill target?
stray sigil
kinda always depend on how they are playing tbh
if the rdru is super aggro in ur face
no reason not to go him and punish
usually feral aff rdru will be in ur face so
woeful epoch
That's really helpful ty. Any other notable exceptions?
stray sigil
i think if ur necro prob can just avoid going hunter all together
but like other than that
clear pulsar
The cvar is /console secureAbilityToggle 1 @stray sigil
Do that then spam cat form again
THe default is 1
But you have yours at 0 prob cuz old account it may not have been the default in the past
clear pulsar
woeful epoch
So it's more about dynamic conditions and enemy playstyle than stuff like role, immunities, dwarf, kyrian phial?
stray sigil
dwarf and kyrian dont really matter really
2/3min cd wont really affect who u go on
its annoying to reapply shit but like
its super minor
clear pulsar
You typed that in?
WE ARE IN BOYS
Feji has only 50k gold
Had to pay up smight
For all the glad wins
stray sigil
127k ty verymuch
clear pulsar
No idea lol
woeful epoch
Is our best totem stomp just moonfire?
clear pulsar
You see that voxx rhomas vethosis drama tho? @vestal citrus
TREMENDOUS read while I was shaving my own head
stray sigil
ya can just snipe em 40 yards away
clear pulsar
It was in FS but I think vetho maybe deleted his messages
Cuz he always does that
Some 300 msgs up
Earlier today
woeful epoch
Does Regrowth scale as well as damage as gear improves?
clear pulsar
It scales with your attack power
All spells do
But ofc it doesn't scale with your mastery for instance
stray sigil
@clear pulsar my soothe doesnt scale with ap
clear pulsar
Yes it does
It does 0 damage with 1200 AP
And it was 0 damage with 10% more AP, which is 0 * 1.1
woeful epoch
Been falling into a trap where I play defensive for too long. If my healer can't top me, I'm uncomfortable going offensive. This will mostly improve with gear, but any advice on balancing passivity/aggression?
stray sigil
like u sit in bear for a while ?
woeful epoch
yeah, had a sin rogue on me and after frenzy I'm still at like half. Guess I should try and Incap + Clone + Regrowth?
stray sigil
can clone to relieve pressure or like just kite
if ur staying in bear for a while but tanking dmg still
doesnt really do much
get distance get a clone/root
help ur healer out
woeful epoch
Kiting just entails Dash/Stampede + a snare or entangle? More used to my Monk's Disable + quick in/out
stray sigil
shift slows go travel/cat get distance ya
feral pretty nimble
kinda about doing as much dmg while avoiding as much dmg
and necro makes that even easier sinec u dont actually have to sit in melee for a long time
more about when to kite
woeful epoch
Because of Fleshcraft?
misty shuttle
I really like NF but necro looks so good for pvp
velvet wyvern
/wa
junior plover
blizzard broke feral dps powershifts on tbc beta
misty shuttle
how come?
junior plover
NF gets a really good legendary next patch
although kyrian could just be better
or necro
who knows
misty shuttle
the 1 min convoke?
junior plover
Yes
it gives full niya stacks
so you have 50% uptime on niya
- the small convoke every minute
misty shuttle
what is the 'more powerful' ability for feral?
junior plover
It's banned in pvp
stray sigil
ff
junior plover
but it's FF
velvet wyvern
what druid spec will be good in 9.1? feral or boomy?
junior plover
yes
for all we know boomy and feral are either the most broken specs in 9.1
or unplayable
both get some fun toys tho
woeful epoch
Judgement pvp talent makes me think NightFae might be better, depends on how good the Divine Toll legendary is, I guess
junior plover
sir this is not a server for degenerates
it's a druid server
Yeah the spells are w/e
it's the question off
is kyrian better
or nf stacks
yeah
and 50% more from niya
so 600 mastery
kyrian is 170 passive + 170 every minute
- 15% damagur
- pelagos
the question is whether or not the extra 15 seconds on the buff even do anything for feral
i dont think so?
youre gonna be out of energy out of cp
and since mastery is only spenders
pallid coral
spenders and bleeds
junior plover
yeah
but bleeds kinda tickle if youre nf
are u gonna spend 5cp on rip
when u have ur go?
true
that's probably the reason to go NF
casual double WHI
honest mesa
Does kyrian get a good lego?
Feral legs suck dogshit rn
Now lego good, but now gna kill anything
Others trash
velvet wyvern
whats good leggo
woeful epoch
sir this is not a server for degenerates
I meant running NecroFeral into free dispelladin
merry narwhal
Please tell me necro will be real good for feral and restro. Wanna play more PvP next patch and dont like convoke anymore
Thank you
green valve
Big bleeds with a 24% ms hows it gonna be bad
woeful epoch
25%*
clear pulsar
The search range on that is like melee range
It's pretty bad
It's like the necrolord emeni trait
Yeah
woeful epoch
Isn't there some solid new Necro Mastery trait?
green valve
so if we were to play with an unholy dk next patch, their necrotic wounds stacks with the new ms right?
wise valley
petkick idiotferal incoming
stray sigil
i dont think these two would mesh well lol
wise valley
those two?
they were like top 2s players together in recent expacs
i remember when idiotferal when he was a dumb ass on arathor
stray sigil
i mean petkick a literally psychopath