Used to be 10
#pvp
lime light
junior plover
I think both
blissful belfry
used to be 12
viscid remnant
used to be deeze
wise valley
Yeah undead rogues could just rip their arm off and click from base
Little known Chinese secret in wotlk
sterile swift
Do I have to time the moonfire against a smoke bomb, or can I just like
spam it on the rogue until the bomb drops lmao
blissful belfry
bomb isnt long enough to cap
sterile swift
yeah
1s time
between
but can I just spam mf, or do I have to actually time it correctly
blissful belfry
just spam. wont gcd lock u til it actually can go off
lime light
6 sec cao
sterile swift
dope
forest kite
junior plover
Depends how laggy / slow u are
My man playing on 1000ms
blissful belfry
u spam, iss gonna tell you that you need LoS, then once bomb is off moonfire will hi
t
1000ms pressing keybinds to react to abilities before the enemy even pressed it
lime light
Ye but laggy ruskis
Can hit u thro pillar
And iam sure brazols can
Too in Na
Or ausis
tardy hare
but can I just spam mf, or do I have to actually time it correctly
u can spam, but beware that u leave stealth if u press it regardless of if it actually hits
so u do want to wait till smoke is about to drop
tardy hare
nop
sterile swift
like can't I just shift out, sit at 40, and spam
tardy hare
yes
sterile swift
then they have to run away, step sap, and byt he time they get to cap again I'm out
tardy hare
ye but he might inc with 2
sterile swift
then I'm fucked withoutn sleeper anyway
sterile swift
ye
tardy hare
but u want to extend that as long as possible
sterile swift
but I guess if I shift too early they can cyc or sap me with 2 and get the cap immediately
I am yeah
sterile swift
just an 1800 ooker trying to not be a huge carry
forest kite
just an 1800 ooker trying to not be a huge carry
Just be a dick sit max range and moonfire
forest kite
Noice
forest kite
Who me?
junior plover
forest kite
Proof?
forest kite
Nooo it’s 1k hardstuck
junior plover
My agent stalked you out
forest kite
Get it right
forest kite
tardy hare
owned.
clear pulsar
3v3 apex so easy bro
clear pulsar
More games played than rating it's actually pog
I wish I could play that many matches
clear pulsar
Yeah I wish I had people
tardy hare
and i still suck
ye u just kinda bad
clear pulsar
But I couldnt keep playing with my first week of season partners
junior plover
ikr
tardy hare
More games played than rating it's actually pog
junior plover
I wish I recorded games of when I hit 2100 early season
bro i was so cracked
like
I can't imagine how people were complaining early season
about 1800 being too hard
clear pulsar
I wish I knew about elemental earthquake leggo for rsham early season
junior plover
I literally didn't know what I was doing
clear pulsar
Woulda been such easy 2.4
junior plover
true
clear pulsar
Playing fps triple healer triple dps
junior plover
viscid remnant
I wish I knew about elemental earthquake leggo for rsham early season
it wasnt gud till 9.05
forest kite
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Moon%20Guard/Fr%C3%B8stdagger
That ain’t me lol.
viscid remnant
cuz they buffed earthquake that patch
junior plover
Link char then
lime light
I wouldnt call IT 2.3k hardatuck
junior plover
the evidence is clear
junior plover
tardy hare
he is
lime light
We drop to 2.1k
tardy hare
Whaazlysnips
junior plover
CAUGHT IN 4K
tardy hare
We drop to 2.1k
noob
lime light
After normal 3 week break
And then win 40 in a row
And again ,3 weeks break
Legit my whole ssn
Lose 30 in a row
junior plover
Im just playin with you
lime light
Win 50
junior plover
hope you get it
2.4k is legit cancer right now
clearly you wouldve gotten it early season
junior plover
lime light
Unwianble
forest kite
^
junior plover
swift improve
forest kite
?
junior plover
300 rating in an hour is not bad my man
clearly underestimated you
my man smoking crack over there forgot what he said his rbg rating was
candid dragon
I guess if he really wants to give a solid proof, he can log in on the char and screenshot it at some point.
lime light
Good win stream $$$
junior plover
true
clear pulsar
tardy hare
xposed
tardy hare
i dont want to leave my furry moth babes
junior plover
join us
candid dragon
Go from furry moth babes to giant fly mount next patch.
junior plover
^
clear pulsar
The fox serpent looking weeb thing is pog
tardy hare
The fox serpent looking weeb thing is pog
YES
candid dragon
I think if you have the actual mog in your inventory you can still mog it via another covenant. At least I can do it with my kyrian bow on my hunter who's venthyr.
candid dragon
Rebuy it. Vendors sell it.
clear pulsar
You cant
tardy hare
i dont want to
clear pulsar
I tried
junior plover
The fox serpent looking weeb thing is pog
Hard agree
clear pulsar
You can 'mog' your kyrian bow cuz thats the base appearance
Of the actual item you're wearing
junior plover
clear pulsar
So you just remove mog
junior plover
You can mog then swap tho
clear pulsar
Yeah
junior plover
so much conquest left over this season
just buy a copy of every item
and keep it mogged
save gold
clear pulsar
But then you're stuck wearing same mog
junior plover
I unironically did this for the cloak
clear pulsar
LMAO ok I guess you can buy 4 cloaks
junior plover
to have meme kyrian wings
candid dragon
o right.
blissful belfry
Night fae is king
clear pulsar
Trust it's me your brother sir
junior plover
nf for feral is
clear pulsar
Now gift nintendo switch
junior plover
like necro for boomie
tardy hare
wtf!
blissful belfry
^
blissful belfry
hell, im convoking my way as fucking resto
junior plover
from 1st ever arena game to 2.1
story of convoke
fucking apes
cant hold trinket
green valve
like necro for boomie
that hurts man
blissful belfry
i faced a rogue mage in 2s yesterday. rogue trinketed my spriest fear on open. after some cc chains on me, he decided to extend it with shadowy duel. I notice he has 60% hp. and no trinket
junior plover
that hurts man
tardy hare
green valve
necro boomie gonna be lit in 9.1
tardy hare
junior plover
lime light
Convoke boomkin was more faceroll
junior plover
youre me... but stronger
lime light
Than feral
tardy hare
junior plover
alt i hope?
blissful belfry
convoke boomie bigger slaps. feral convoke easier to isolate on 1 target
blissful belfry
well, it wasnt ''free'' was easier
blissful belfry
i really miss full moon
tardy hare
this was main at that point
tardy hare
i was like 2.3 shaman
junior plover
i see
junior plover
if im not glad next season ima die of cringe
blissful belfry
prepare your casket
junior plover
especially if they fix mmr
blissful belfry
next patch i have 2-3 weeks to push 2.4. after that iss gun be too late for my PvE main scrub toon
cuz of pvp gear and vault
blissful belfry
aint need to get boosted
tardy hare
just want new seeeasssoonnn
junior plover
ive heard we're friends
blissful belfry
ima boomy, def a spot for me amiright
tardy hare
whats ksm
blissful belfry
kms but inversed
tardy hare
o
blissful belfry
i actually got my own ksm 3 days ago cuz i havent bothered doin keys in 3 months
and never liked keys
blissful belfry
^
tardy hare
glad mount better anyway
blissful belfry
M+ is the shittiest content they ever put in
lime light
Glad mount with egirl seat
lime light
Hornie egirls that heals
blissful belfry
doin m+ with a fire mage and a priest is fuckin garbo. the mage gets PI and nf cd reduc on cd
and you just sit there watching him pump
tardy hare
lime light
Its like wattching your friend pumps a bis girl
blissful belfry
ya
lime light
In a party
blissful belfry
like, gimme some puss mate
clear pulsar
Sub dd gyarados the GOAT of nationaldex
tardy hare
that biomutant game
looking pretty funny
i guess
but
25th of may
release
: )
worthless now
tardy hare
viscid remnant
woeful epoch
What are the best conduits for Feral Necro in pvp? Do you swap Well-honed & BotW on the last tier based on Mindgames or is it always the same build?
junior plover
You still need Well honed even into priest
the class is unplayable without it
This is what most people are running I'm pretty sure
viscid remnant
Ye
junior plover
Ursine Vigor on swap for pre-game Fleshcraft if u want that
The actual solution to mindgames
is a cancel macro for WHI
woeful epoch
Thank you! So Taste for Blood, Tough as Bark, and Born of the Wilds aren't important for the build?
lime snow
Not as important as the above
woeful epoch
I'm surprised the fleshcraft thing still works. Thanks for the response!
junior plover
You pretty much don't even bite as necro
lime snow
What's the fleshcraft thing
junior plover
Botw is really nice
especially in 2s
You can click on Ursine, go bear, immediately fleshcraft
then swap back
woeful epoch
Oh, do you skip Ferocious Wound pvp talent or only bite every 30 seconds?
junior plover
Oh, do you skip Ferocious Wound pvp talent or only bite every 30 seconds?
I run Thorns or Savage Momentum/SOTW/LOTP
You can run wound
but I run savage roar
so i dont have energy to spare
on bites
woeful epoch
...how do you spend your combo points if rip is snapshotted?
lime snow
Interesting yeah I don't run roar
lime snow
I guess wounds makes sense if u dont run roar
junior plover
much better than for the other 2 feral specs
You get to snapshot aaaall the bleeds
woeful epoch
Oh, I didn't even know SR was a consideration over SotF
junior plover
Yeah it's a recent discovery really
Consensus is that it's generally better but not largely
you can run either
woeful epoch
Just for some context, what's your CR at?
woeful epoch
Cool, much appreciated. Crazy there's still build alternatives being uncovered. WW by comparison is extremely static
junior plover
Yeah it's mostly because of 9.0.5 bringing necro to the table at all
clear pulsar
I mean
junior plover
I think WW recently started using Serenity, no?
woeful epoch
9.0.5 buffed a legendary, which opened up serenity, but alternative covenants/talents are basically dead
junior plover
Yeah but it was directly due to the buff right
and SR is actually like
half way through 9.0.5 or later
clear pulsar
Not really
junior plover
For most people that is
green valve
so I represent most of it
true
junior plover
I'm the press secretary here
woeful epoch
Thanks for the information, though. I hit 60 last week, now Renown 24, 2 weeks of soul ash, and 11k honor, ready to start pushing with my HPriest. I'm sure I'll have a ton more questions.
junior plover
I'd recommend sticking to sotf to have less stuff to worry about
SR makes you comparably energy starved and you have an extra buff to keep track of
woeful epoch
I went pretty macro/bind-heavy during leveling so I think it'll fit in pretty well. Will play around with both.
junior plover
viscid remnant
woeful epoch
also means the 9.1 nerf isn't as impactful which is nice
junior plover
Which nerf?
woeful epoch
Ferocious WOunds
junior plover
Oh yeah
definitely won't run it in 9.1
you'll just put the new talent there
you'll probably swap thorns with lotp at that point depending on matchup
but who knows
woeful epoch
good prep then. Now we can just pray that Judgement talent doesn't go live...
junior plover
clear pulsar
You're def about to get solo capped on
junior plover
You're def about to get solo capped on
by the man himself probably
viscid remnant
Ppl just die to you spamming thrash with incarn
viscid remnant
<:happybear:555713201879253023>
Open up the meme compilations sir
Its going to be a good time
junior plover
did just that
whats the good ones
that machtig watched on stream
i forget the name
it ends with cute animals
on every episode
u know the one
viscid remnant
Unusual meme compilation
junior plover
thank u
viscid remnant
blissful belfry
u gon get solo capped by a warrior
im sure trixster could solo cap u with a warrior
junior plover
tardy hare
gg
junior plover
Lmao a 20k hp rogue came
baited me to chase him
then warrior came out of nowhere
almost capped
these guys
woeful epoch
Best up-to-date Feral guide? Skill-capped deleted theirs for being outdated and Wowhead still lists Necro as 3rd in terms of covenants.
junior plover
I'm not sure there is a necro guide tbh
clear pulsar
Snupy probably has something on youtube?
junior plover
Might be yeah
If you need talents/build tips pvpleaderboard.com is your friend
if you need gameplay tips that's a different story
but it boils down to constantly pressuring 1 target with full bleeds
sneak cyclones and regrowths when you have full bleeds up
feral frenzy is your go tool
green valve
feral frenzy is your go tool
^ your go is ff
fallow root
Watching Mmarkers makes me want to try resto
fallow root
Snupy probably has something on youtube?
Snupy is the only one I’m aware of. Dottz might have something out too
tardy hare
cart ye
junior plover
and maybe the bfa one
tardy hare
boomy temple
fallow root
^ your go is ff
It’s cool having a go every 45 sec.
woeful epoch
More of a general question, but why are non-MS comps considered better in Dampening? Wouldn't it be more difficult to heal into MS+Dampening rather than just Dampening?
green valve
most "damp" comps are just livelord wizards
woeful epoch
I watched Snupy skip the first 2 minutes of Feral+HPriest vs Arms+RDruid. I get why Cardinal Mending is strong in dampening, but wasn't sure if Feral had any benefits.
junior plover
I'm pretty sure dampening is multiplicative on MS and not additive?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
So it's not necessarily that they are better, they're better in comparison to 0% dampen
blissful belfry
pretty sure it reduces the remaining portion and not on top of yeah. like 50% damp and 50% ms is 75% reduc, not 100%
woeful epoch
I assume every feral ability can be dodged/parried other than Moonfire, Cyclone, Hibernate, Entangle, Adaptive? And that all of those can be Reflected? or are there some weird cases around abilities like Incap Roar or Soothe?
junior plover
Incap Roar can be parried yeah
it's a bit weird
other than that everything that you'd think is a spell is a spell
tardy hare
how do u lose rbg
U dont
Thats actually pog rating
U get to skip 1500-1600
1450 yeet to 1600
junior plover
Man
a DK solo capped 3 bases
this game
the rogue was right
anyone can cap
this guy out there being proud of solo capping on bears on this mmr when there's a DK running around soloing fucking Blacksmith
blissful belfry
I wonder if i can solo cap a bear with my boomy
hehehe
now, we'll do this whole convo, about boomy vs bear
junior plover
blissful belfry
can bear survive a solo incarn convoke reliably?
blissful belfry
Sl?
junior plover
barkskin on top
60%
Fleshcraft on it
thats like 72%? + fleshcraft heal
should be good
blissful belfry
Nah, ima press flap, u gun press all defensive cuz u an ape and thinkin i convoke. then i convoke for real
junior plover
Nah, ima press flap, u gun press all defensive cuz u an ape and thinkin i convok...
GOATED strat
whole kayak
Syfoxy has good necro stuff
Snupy even mentions him in his guide
Cause he’s more experienced at necro feral
blissful belfry
syfoxy axtin and kiosk prolly
green valve
capping honor on this 59 bm hunter before i hit 60
blissful belfry
the legend
green valve
this class is actually so broken
junior plover
Boomie in my rbg telling me not to hug the flag
and instead just moonfire spam
@tardy hare help
conflicting information
woeful epoch
Is the MC bug enough of a deterrent to MC whenever full bleeds are up or is it generally worth it?
blissful belfry
conflicting information
the boomy in your rbg group plays at 1550 cr. trust matchtig
blissful belfry
are u doubtin matchtig now? For rbg pugs?
Kiosk cmon man
y u gotta do him like dat
clear pulsar
So long as it's not 2 people
clear pulsar
Being on top of flag is free too tbh
If it's rogue + 1 tho you definitely need to be on top of flag
junior plover
Ye
clear pulsar
To spin with thrash/barkskin thru duel
junior plover
clear pulsar
So just spam click BGE
To see if their boomies or whatever other stealthies they have
Are in teamfight
If there's 2 missing you get on top of flag
leaden thorn
So seeing as people know a whole lot about 9.1 for whatever rason and me just not being able to find it i find my self in a situation of "should i stay necro or go night fae" as a feral druid
junior plover
The fuck is bge
clear pulsar
And in that case you yell at your other base sitter to ghost and hit their base
junior plover
So seeing as people know a whole lot about 9.1 for whatever rason and me just no...
We dont know yet
nf legendary is not out on ptr
it all depends on how it interacts with niya
even then needs playtesting
leaden thorn
im currently a necorlord feral but im debating if its worth staying it might just be because right now pvp is gear based but i def feel like im doing nothing half the time
junior plover
If you feel like youre doing nothing add SR to the mix
if youre still doing nothing
press regrowth
on other dps
hardcast clone
anything
clear pulsar
I mean
junior plover
blissful belfry
get out
clear pulsar
Changing from a rotational spell that adds consistent damage and you press twice a minute to a 2 min cd that gives you one moment of burst doesn't stop you from feeling like you're doing nothing
If anything you do even less
gloomy token
Muh bite tho
leaden thorn
what is SR?
junior plover
Savage Roar
leaden thorn
ah
junior plover
Yeah I understood doing nothing as in
downtime
if you feel like your character is doing nothing
necro is better than kyrian or nf in that regard
leaden thorn
im just sitting here trying to decide if i should stay necro or not but i guess i should tell 9.1 comes out instead of hopping onto the night fae train
till*
junior plover
We wont know until at least like 2 weeks before patch is out
blissful belfry
but even then, thats pretty pepe
junior plover
Imagine not having 3 covenants at 40 renown
why live?
actually my NF is like 38 probably
leaden thorn
iv never tried savage roar but having another button to push kinda sucks guess ill look into it though
blissful belfry
NF from start to finish mate
junior plover
iv never tried savage roar but having another button to push kinda sucks guess i...
sotf is barely worse
dont bother if you dont want another button to press
I thought you wanted more buttons to press
leaden thorn
i wanted to do more damage but ill try it anyway
junior plover
Misunderstood you
You can try it but it's seriously not a huge deal so don't sweat it
leaden thorn
iv just been locked in an inner debate betwene staying necro or just going night fae and becoming a dime a dozen balance druid
woeful epoch
Do you generally Berserk on opener? Or 2nd Frenzy after some CD's?
tardy hare
<@!140164607175032832> help
If u playing legit u just max range. But dont need to below 2.5
Afk on flag easy and calm
junior plover
I generally Berserk for pressure when we have some momentum
junior plover
Afk on flag easy and calm
thanks good sir
Berserk is kinda useless in terms of damage
it's just nice to get more CPs to apply a snapshotted 32s rip or rip into maim
tardy hare
1 min without trinketting is easily enough time for team
After that just call em boosted apes
junior plover
leaden thorn
im considering just going balance really i like feral but its hard to compete against 20k star surge crits
junior plover
You won't get 20k starsurge crits without gear
Feral is definitely the stronger pvp spec on this patch
no question about it
for arena anyway
woeful epoch
Shapeshift ignores Polymorph, Hex, Repentance? Anything else?
tough hill
Hey guys - you seem like a friendly bunch, and I'm really struggling with getting to grips with feral druid pvp this expansion.
Is this the right place to ask some noobish questions?
tough hill
ferociously, presumably
tough hill
Well, I used to play feral a lot in vanila/TBC - got 190ish days /played - so I'm not a complete noob, but I have only recently returned to the game and am unfamilliar with a lot of the new stuff with this expansion
Anyway... I got to level 60 a few days ago.
I'm currently sitting at item level 184.
I get instagibbed in every stun-lock pretty much. And I feel like anytime I hit anyone, I'm slapping a wall of bubles and self-healing
Is this a normal experience for my current gear-level?
tardy hare
Yeah youre 40ilvls behind
tough hill
I completed the Kyrian campaign - and to be honest, Torghast and LFR are just really boring to me.
All I want to do is get geared enough to be reasonably viable in battlegrounds/arenas.
What's the easiest path to getting there?
woeful epoch
For a few days, that's not bad. It's kind of a grind for early honor/conquest
tough hill
So I did do a few BG's - I bought some rings with the honour and then upgraded them because they were my lowest item-levels.
Is that what I should be doing? Or should I save my honour for something else?
clear pulsar
So I did do a few BG's - I bought some rings with the honour and then upgraded t...
You should finish out your campaign and upgrade the covenant armor to 197 with anima, which means don't buy honor armor, the rings are fine, and the trinkets as well, necklace
That's the fastest way you'll get upgrades rn
Covenant armor
After that it's just spam rated for conquest
leaden thorn
well sucks to be me im already have way done with my honor gear set lol
clear pulsar
You gain the same amount of conquest regardless of rating so don't feel too bad about tanking a bunch of mmr so you can start winning games tbh
Honor set is just 90k total cost for shit that you can fully replace with conquest right now anyway
It's so pointless
Literally same ilvl as you can get from campaign in 10% of the time
leaden thorn
i find it harder to upgrade personally
clear pulsar
leaden thorn
i mean you dont need to like that thought
but i dont have a constant stream of anima coming in
clear pulsar
You get like 2k anima just from weekly stuff
The pvp weeklies, world boss, and 2 dungeon weeklies
That's about all it costs
tough hill
Alright, sounds like I'm mostly on the right track.
What about the stuff I've been alrgely ignoring - my sanctum, the command table, the thing that looks like a mini talent-tree, soulbinds...
Am I missing a trick by ignoring that stuff??
gloomy token
When you get the meta achieves for all rank 1 /2/3 sanctum buildings the anime starts rolling in
clear pulsar
Yeah but then you just dumped 80k anima into upgrades to sanctum buildings
Kinda weirdchamp
tough hill
Get venture plan addon
I'll look into that
clear pulsar
Night fae mission table low key the 2nd worse now
After they fixed trappers and buffed the shit out of venthyr
Necro undisputed best mission table
gloomy token
Necro gang mission table is massive pog
clear pulsar
The 3 soulbinds + plaguey
gloomy token
Plaguey and plague deviser marileth are the goat
clear pulsar
SOOOO op
gloomy token
PDM and emeni get you through 90% of hard missions
leaden thorn
man...i really hope that rogue 100% crit chance legendary thing is gettin nerfed
junior plover
the fuck is Soul Survivors
junior plover
man...i really hope that rogue 100% crit chance legendary thing is gettin nerfed
It is
leaden thorn
thank fuckin god
clear pulsar
It's a side quest
junior plover
and so is the restealth playstyle
clear pulsar
Takes like 30 mins
leaden thorn
acuse im currently getting farmed by a outlaw rogue with it
and i cant fight back and everyone is ignoring it
clear pulsar
I think it's marked on the map for you
leaden thorn
sounds dumb but
junior plover
I might google it tomorrow
leaden thorn
im currnetly getting GY camped by the outlaw rogue lol
clear pulsar
Alright, sounds like I'm mostly on the right track.
What about the stuff I've be...
The mission table is purely for cosmetics/mats farming, the sanctum upgrades stuff you can dump anima on is kinda just for shits, gives some mogs, some mounts. The soulbind system is the power progression tho you definitely need to read up on that.
junior plover
rank 3 u get portal to Oribos
clear pulsar
Fuck portals no chance bro
leaden thorn
i thought bleeds brough rogues outa stealth
junior plover
Theres a conduit
gloomy token
Mission table is ok passive gold if you don't do boosts/ carries
clear pulsar
And yeah mission table is a solid like 30k gold a week or something
leaden thorn
im considering going to night fae but tbh
clear pulsar
If you do it all the time
clear pulsar
Convoke is so overrated by people that dont actually play druid
junior plover
Imagine playing a feral without a covenant and forcing trinket
how do you do that vs half the specs in the game
u dont
junior plover
thats NF life
tough hill
The mission table is purely for cosmetics/mats farming, the sanctum upgrades stu...
Thanks man, you have all been very helpful.
clear pulsar
@junior plover emeni marileth heirmir plaguey meatball you legit can not fail a mission
Get ventureplan addon tho it's so sick
junior plover
Ye I got it
junior plover
something splashes on you
sunfire
frost dk
many others
ignite maybe?
not sure if ignite still splashes
leaden thorn
i mean iw as just running through to back cap something
got pulled outa stealth nbody around me
dont know what was happening
happens a lot in AV
junior plover
clear pulsar
Could be critter on the floor!?
tough hill
What about legendaries? I'm assuming I need to chore my way through boring Torghast to get enough Soul Ash for a free item?
leaden thorn
what spec are you
clear pulsar
For instance there was a rat in freehold that always fucked one skip I used to do
tough hill
what spec are you
feral
junior plover
The legendary depends on your covenant
tough hill
kyrian
clear pulsar
Cuz I wild charged to one mob and the rat was right behind it, so I stepped on it and killed it, that pulled me out of stealth
junior plover
Symmetry then
For 3v3 you can use The Natural Order's Will if you find yourself being the kill target a lot
it's a Guardian legendary
junior plover
Cuz I wild charged to one mob and the rat was right behind it, so I stepped on i...
That might be it actually
leaden thorn
Draught of deep focuse is what im using
junior plover
Yeah but that's for Necro
tough hill
and Torghast is my only route to getting that, I'm assuning? It's pretty mundane stuff imo.
leaden thorn
i know just makin sure it is lol
junior plover
Yeah Torghast is the way to get it
clear pulsar
Torghast is where you get the currency to craft leggos yes
junior plover
You can get some extra from the mission table bench
but you'd need to progress quite a bit there
clear pulsar
It's so chill like go in, 10 mins one side, 10 mins other side, come out
junior plover
It's so chill like go in, 10 mins one side, 10 mins other side, come out
Once u have gear yeah
But yeah Feral in torghast is pretty sweet
cat form movement speed
tough hill
I've been breaking every pot and slaying every dude... am I doing it wrong?
junior plover
good survi
If you find yourself struggling against the bosses
and need the powers
then keep doing that
if not, just kill some stuff and stealth all the way to the end of the floor
tough hill
Not really, it usually seems trivially easy, just long and dull.
Alright cool, that sounds more bareable.
leaden thorn
i mean tbf they say you need an ilvl of 195 to do layer 8 so
junior plover
I pretty much only break the pots that have an anima power inside and elites that are on my way and can see stealth
leaden thorn
depending your class though you dont always need that
junior plover
and anything that's standing near these souls that give 1% agility when you click them
leaden thorn
i solo layer 8 with a 175 holy paladin
tough hill
I think I'm locked out of that layer or something at the moment.
clear pulsar
On main I just
Skip all the way to the end
Kill the floor miniboss before whatever is following me can kill me
Move on
junior plover
Kyrian is probably the worst feral for torghast
necro feels good
NF is absurd
but I remember kyrian was kinda eh
clear pulsar
It's fine, the worst part is it does nothing for resto
But pelagos is 20% mastery
- 15% dam from self buff
It's pretty dece
green valve
Nf is absolutely absurd for ghast
tough hill
I've been kinda ignoring Conduits and Soulbinds out of fear of messing it up... Is that a valid fear, or can I recover from whaterver I pick?
green valve
But f ghast
You can swap soulbinds whenever you want in any rested area
So definitely irrational fear
tough hill
Good, thank you.
junior plover
You can swap the path on the soulbind tree any time
you can swap what conduit is in what slot once per day
but you can hold 10 charges of that
clear pulsar
but you can hold 10 charges of that
I wonder if Ion was the one who came up with this idea
junior plover
Look
I WILL SAY
if people were hearthing out to swap them between bosses
that'd be cracked
but it should just be spec specific
ofc thatd ruin the FANTASYYY
clear pulsar
This doesnt keep people from optimizing conduits for each boss on prog tho
I mean
At worst people would hearth out to swap on farm to sweat out a parse or something
I don't think that's an issue at all
As it is if you aren't killing 5 mythic bosses day 1 you can already swap your entire soulbind for each boss
This energy thing serves no reasonable purpose bro
junior plover
As it is if you aren't killing 5 mythic bosses day 1 you can already swap your e...
Actually true
it doesnt even serve the intended purpose
green valve
Its just then being stubborn
And not wanting to cave in fully
No point in having 2 week gated covenant swaps or conduit charges
But here we are
junior plover
No I actually agree
if people were gonna tryhard and swap between each boss
they'd be doing it right now
might as well remove it
green valve
I mean the actual conduits youd still have to hearth out to change
If you wanna be that big a neckbeard go for it
junior plover
Asmon actually had a good take on twitter
It's not reinventing the wheel
the community just wants a robust wheel
and Blizz is like
we'll give them a hoverboard
and they make one from scratch
finish it by last patch
then throw it away, make a new one next expansion
Like think about BFA
everything they added in BFA got removed
They added like 20 systems and all of them are gone 2 years later
clear pulsar
Fuck asmongold
junior plover
Lmao just played warsong gulch and a monk did 500 damage to tank all game, said "you guys do 0 damage fucking idiots" cuz he was 1st on damage done overall
Wouldnt surprise me normally
but
He's fucking 3k in 3s
All my guy knows is
attack everything in sight
HOOOW
are you rank 1 arena
and say stuff like that
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
agreed to all
Yeah thats probably his line of reasoning
yo he's actually like top 35 eu on his warrior
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Dont they ban for that?
ah
great pasttime
My server on classic had some guild drama
when officer got kicked for defending a black guy in the guild
When other officers called him the hard r
great times
or was it the guy that got kicked for being black
something like that
green valve
When other officers called him the hard r
damn fed lol
woeful epoch
With Deep Focus, how do you choose which target to prioritize? Does Kyrian/Dwarf factor in or just certain specs?
junior plover
You don't like to hit hunter
that's it for the most part, I don't think dwarf will make you swap the target unless you have 2 good targets to choose from
who you're going to target depends on the comp you play and the comp they play
I mean if they stoneform on FF
that's a cracked defensive
STRONG
but I don't think it warrants you swapping off them
Oh didnt know that actually
woeful epoch
I was thinking Ret or Arms might be ones I'd rather focus entangle than try and burn through. (comp would be Feral+HPriest vs DPS+Healer)
junior plover
Oh yeah you're playing 2s
I'd recommend going dps since your hpriest has really good cc setups on the healer
also you have no mortal strike
so you'll struggle to win healer races
woeful epoch
Makes sense, maybe different next season?
junior plover
Could be yeah
feral is pretty strong on a healer
just missing MS
Against specifically Hunter
woeful epoch
Ret has Bubble, BoP, & Phial. Sounds really annoying
junior plover
you go healer
Ret is pretty annoying but they're still squishy
You spam moonfire on bop
Rogue Mage is very free if you just chase mage all game long
leaden thorn
i think iv decided im gonna go balance and night fae regardless of nerfs that may come
for two reasons
- iv not done the night fae camapign its the only one iv not done
- after doing a torghast run as balance i forgot how much i like the visiuals lol
falling stars are cool af but as far as pvp concerned
ima have to get used to ranged in pvp again
leaden thorn
im mostly doing it for the campaign
i may switch later
is necro honestly that bad for balance?
aaah okay
green valve
is necro honestly that bad for balance?
Its shadily kinda fun, you can still get 80% of kyrian performance with boat atm
My surges went from like 16-17k to 13-15k
Fury hits pretty hard tho tbh if you swarm it
But also what glyph said
clear pulsar
Yeah the issue with necro boomie is jus that
Games go longer
So more room for your team to fuck up
And lose
leaden thorn
i kinda miss hurricane
clear pulsar
Cyclone?
leaden thorn
what ever the channeled AOE was
green valve
Plague tree really is so good tho tbh
Ultimate form the healing gobs 2 potency 2 endurance
Trueee
Dreambinders prob better then boat tho
Especially come 9.1 but i gotta make circle
And top off draught
clear pulsar
@vestal citrus foe dreambinder go lines up perfect with 18% inc crit from Heirmir tho
green valve
And fuck ghast
clear pulsar
green valve
Oh shit should we run heirmir?
clear pulsar
Draught is absolutely dog
For boomie
Not even funny
Don't even think about that
Even if you're getting trained
Get the thorns-lite trait
TREMENDOUS dam
green valve
Draught is absolutely dog
WE FERAL TOO BRO
woeful epoch
Certain matchups where X affinity is better? Or is it more preference?
dreamy pond
Is the skill ceiling for Kyrian Boomy higher than NF? I am leveling and still learning the class, and feel as though Kyrian may be a poor choice for a fresh Druid player?
green valve
woeful epoch
For a normal rotation, is it better to Adaptive Swarm 25 seconds after your first Frenzy and hold Frenzy for 5 seconds? Or would you always save Tiger's Fury and Adaptive for Frenzy?