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Cool!
Whelp
We’re getting a stun trink
Thats kinda nuts especially for Boomies who don’t really have a true kick or single target stun thats instant and not channeled
9.1 looks really bright for us Druids
Especially Ferals now they can have 2 stuns
Unless DR puts to play
100% chance it dr with other stuns
anyone here use the bell in pvp?
I never considered it until I accidentally had it equipped... and clapped for 17k
at 200 ilvl
100 percent for rbgs since you can trinket swap
wouldn't use it for arena outside of some cheese comp
Is Necro any good for boomies
203 bell absolutely smacks
@tall iron if this helps, i got laughed at when i asked that question. ive seen one REALLY good necro boomy, but outside of that, id say convoke/kirian would be without a doubt better for boomy
eh
which one is it
i just tried to use pomegranate in a game and it didnt work
was shameful
ah ok just the dewy. tendies not allowed 
Nf boomi main, finally got enough ash for feral LEGO. Mainly want feral for pvp. Symmetry or apex? Shoulder, feet, legs? Which way to go?
Anything that only gives mana, not hp
i.e. any drink, not food
ty
Playing all the covenants, night fae just the most fun.
Necro to the top
I agree for my Druid it sure has been. I’ve got a rogue and humter at other covenants but love my Druid with nf
just disapointed at the game
Its ok bud we still love you here, keep fighting the good fight!
Theres literally no coutner play i had there. I sat the entire blind. team was fine, just pally runnin at me bubbling and pressing ashen while the rogue kidney me and pally hoj my trinket
if he was a tiny bit slower on hoj i might have been able to get away
but fucking hell. how can hpal hit for 20k
Yea some cheesey shit
i even skinned at 100%
Ashen wings mad paragon
Healing my unholy dk friend has me hating 2s and I kinda just never want to log in again.
The enrage on your teammate that just got hit by a 20k HoW by a Hpal?😸

drugur
true
Does anyone have an issue as feral where the first rake doesn't stun after joining a PvP instance?
Or Moonfire switches you out of cat form

Yes that's about right
I think if you join the instance in stealth it doesn't work
Or something like that
I remember hearing about something like that a few months back
@junior plover Were you expecting updates today?
The healing debuff pvp talent for feral looks really strong
Any day without feral buffs is a day that will go down in history as an example of humanity's shortcomings

In all seriousness I'm pretty happy with how feral is looking for 9.1
But buff feral
||her soul gets split into 2 or some shit||
u gotta be kidding
No it is known
Feral is the peak of human ingenuity
And our legacy will not be complete until it's the best spec in the game
Anyone know of any guides for Guardian PvP? Tried to find one but only seem to be guides for the other specs. I go Guardian for RBGs so would like to find info on that. Cheers.
For once I disagree
Every time people ask about guardian RBG tips
People rightfully tell them
There is no guide no one cared enough to make one
I think the best bear tips came out when the rogue guy came here yesterday and claimed he could cap @tardy hare
But never when people ask for them 

But if you ctrl+f for "Sap"
You might find the discussion
Machtig Explained in detail why a bear will never be capped by a rogue
Debaitable. Sap u, barkskin, tank u for a bit back peddling if ur still on me hitting me. If u don’t incarn. That’s fine. Blind, u trinket. Next go for me, kidney mfd full cap, maybe barkskin.
"Kidney mfd full cap"
: )
He doesnt know
i also cap in 5.2 seconds
debaitable!

DH can hold cap for whole
1 second
Between the kidney and the blind
Great spec
hello guys anyone has weakaura like this
i am unable to find something similar
all the weakauras on wago.io are for pve crackheads
i did
I had this exact thing
but I purged it 2 days ago
u're late
I tried to find it again on wago.io
but its gone
@junior plover the reddit rbg guide is the best resource atm in my opionion.
Sure its not 100% accurate for regions and somw things. But it covers tanks and their role. Map specifics etc
idk how to make weakauras
look for pawkets'
i just yoink other's
might be this one
Making a simple weakaura is easy. Making it good for all circumstances, edge cases and good animations and blurs is another thing
you think my addon might be bugged or something

tbf i havent updated any addons in months
Making weakauras is easy but not ones with pandemic tracking
that actually requires API and coding knowledge
gimme gimme

but i dont think thats the one I originally had


can you share it in game
packed and shipped
hmm
if ure not SR u could put thrash there I suppose
🙏

ye i guess dont rly need to see brs
u select one
it is what it is
and possition settings
i think its there for
if you dont have SR talented?
maybe
so its not an empty square
it used to have a tiny brs icon
when its talented it just overrides brs
Damn working 2 blocks away got me hype
same old
same old
sludgefist has abilities on a timer
when he charges he has to hit a pillar
or u wipe
if u dont kill before 4th pillar is down and he charges
its donezo
do dameg dont die lmao ez boss
I got the horses like Terrak
Hat is in the back
Country boy
But I'm still slatt

Tf kinda remix is that
CTC the goat
Hit em from below
dude in lfr talking shit cus i missed one pillar
flexxing his hardstuck 3/10m
in lfr
I let my enemy know
Rolling up purp it's that venipede bro
Catch me on victory road

i want what ur smoking
You know
I love the Budew
Especially when it's covered and pruned
The other day ago I smoked some dro the color of Mew



Perfect response
Necroferal melts, even in PvE. I do not regret the switch
I’m ready to hop into arena this weekend once I get my DODF legendary crafted
Yeah I love a nice shadow meld to restealth
Necro feral plays kind of like Assa rogue
is there a wa that helps me use that necro dot correctly in arena
is there a flag like [talent:1/2] but for honor talents?
There’s one linked in the WoW head guide that tracks AS
@keen garnet dont think so unfotunately. But you can just make a macro with something like:
/cast Thorns
/cast Faerie swarm
If a rogue uses cloak, will moonfire stop him from capping?
Thrash and brambles
You can moonfire to stop cap because cloak only lasts 5 seconds while cap takes 6 seconds @keen phoenix

Brambles doesnt go thru cloak dum mod

Gottemmmm

mod dont have to know everything in my channel
Don't speak
they are allowed to dont know anything
Don't speak
🤝 
So basicly with cloak up, the only way to stop cap is with physical dmg?
@surreal heron legendary picture
Ah ok
It's the true druid spec heirarchy
guardians are feral's slaves
🤝
cooperation like that is not allowed
Look
All men are born equal
But some men are born moonkins

It's just the way it is.
thats the way
I said This looks like a job for me
So everybody, just follow me
'Cause we need a little, controversy
'Cause it feels so empty, without me
hey
can someone explain me how exactly barksin works in rbg against rogues when defending nodes as a guardian?
@random cypress
i currently only use sleeper legendary and trinket but thats not enough
Dude sucks at poker and has a micro dick
Brambles is aoe dmg on barkskin
Make sure to pick balance affinity also
Increases range of brambles
If you can explain how the rogue capped we can show ur mistake
Also u can scroll up to this morning and find this exact conversation
Trolled some dude I faced in rbgs thats on my realm
Hibbed his ass and capped
He charged from hib
yeah i can tell you: I go invis far away from the node and wait for rogue to come out of stealth to try cap. i apply moonfire. he comes sap me and trys cap again. i use trinket and legendary and wait for help. if legendary is not ready i am fucked
Instead of MF
obviously i didnt know when to use barkskin
Yes when u MF
Push in
To flag
So u can barkskin aoe on the flag
Ur being outplayed if rogue is restealthing and reaching u if ur max range
I always restealth also
But you want to stay far away and make sure barkskin is up when ur literally right on the flag
Incarn when ur not
Save trink for when ur not
so is it possible to defend forever against a rogue?
or does it just give more time for aid to arrive
Bear is hard u gotta master the sneaky deaky
why can rogue restealth though when he has moonfire ticks but i get uncovered when i have bleed ticks?
endurance conduit gives them a shield on stealth
cant reveal em with dots unless your dots break the shield. which wont happen
good to know
You cant be sapped if you just moonfired them, if you can be sapped you can also re-prowl, so go back into stealth
^
Imo the single cancerest conduit they have implemented
"Why not give rogues a conduit that gets rid of their vulnerability to restealth" - Blizz probably
@arctic rivet bro your UI elements are huge wtf
It's ded next patch
What size if your screen?
The designer is just a fucking rogue and he's like. i wanna restealth whenever
and jsut went along his own idea
Next patch. so after about 9 months since SL release? 
ask anything about anyone. If they get offended, tell em they are a fuckin pussy
ah sorry
thanks for your help. I will try to be a better sneaky deaky dude
1920 x 1080 is my screen
Size idiot

Not resolution

Sorry
its farmily friendly channel
Didnt mean to curse
U better be sorry
Yeah, no fucking swearing
yes kurwa
I can tell the resolution from the screenshot lmao
Nsfw
23 inch monitor size

I still can't believe we let Americans get away with setting a standard for measuring screen size in inches
This is not okay
lol
Which is the Best way to farm honor lvl fast normal bgs?
prolly epic ones

Might actually be worst ui I've ever seen
@arctic rivet why is ur portrait in top corner
Ur eyeball muscles are prolly jacked

goated ui
could probably move my and target frame more to the center
box myself in


what do u not like about my bars
theyre perfect
shouldve been in cat form
this is random caster form shit
Dude
SR has a cooldown 
but who cares its the same shit
ye i mean

whatever floats ur boat
Its so symmetrical then you just fuck it up with your frame and target frame top left
The fuck
perfect symmetry triggers me

FING F
crazy
i stole it from someone
not sure who
seen it a long time ago
but its actually pretty nice
u glance at party hp
subconcious picks up on cd timers
i mean
my ui is hella dogshit
too lazy to rework it cuz it takes time to get used to it
Standard wow ui is the way
Stsndard + lorti for cool looking edgy background
Ever seen a black gryphon?
Lorti?
Lorti ui
can you send me that dot tracker WA?
looks cleaner than mine 🙂
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
I just stole Fore's tracker and removed 90% of the pve fluff
npnp
you mean the default area? I'm just used to it and all I did is make it bigger due to my screen
where would you recommend me putting it?
is this better?
Good lord
Yalls UIs suck
@arctic rivet did you see their shit? Dont listen to feedback from these goons
These neer do wells
They havent earned the right to call themselves true kultirans
was actually torn between kyrian and necro
how's kyrian in pvp?
Looking for feral for the most part
Kyrian is the 2nd best spec for feral
However necro feels a lot better to play imo
mh
Kyrian is probably the least versatile covenant
However if you like deleting a mage in a single stun
necrolord it is then
kyrian is the covenant for you
Necro is better than kyrian for everything except boomie pvp
yea I like the idea of bleeding everything
You realy just kinda bleed one thing
tho i'm kinda torn about the 40% dot damage bonus if it's all on 1 target
yeh
kinda meh
You can play circle but its a bit suboptimal
nah I'm already garbage at the game
playing anything suboptimal ain't my thing
anything but nightfae, I really don't like the convoke thing
sad about the shapeshift q.q
necro feels great to play
convoke is too easy to shut down but NF is prob going to be pretty strong with the new legendary if it pans out to 16 stack of grove buff
though the range on the last trait is apaprently 8 yards? (wtf?)
what trait
Something that buffs the mastery from grove invigoration if you're near other cov allies
idk if it's still but i read on PTR a few weeks back that the +50% increase to the grove buff when it hits another covenant ally was 8 yards
how desireable do you think boomkins will be in RBGs in 9.1?
convoke leggo probably wont land you 16 stacks still. most likely is going to halve it at 8
ohhh, new traits from 9.1
havent looked at em
that's not even enough to reliably work in a dungeon let alone pvp
i mean, for convoke yea
Your tank be happy feet dancing all over?
but you're not always 8 yards next to someone when you get hte 1 stacks
8 yards is small and you shoudl be behind mobs
and positioning for aoe
it will work well, just not 100%, the point being that in PvP it will work like shit if its 8 yards
im not a fan of that whole ''gotta stack 8 yard of somebody'' meta
i remember sliver trinket in BoD and manifesto of madness in Nya
From gaining a stack
and it heals though
hate playin around other peoples position. although if it only needs 1 dude it should be finer
but yeah convoke is the big part but how often are you 8 yards on an ally when convoking in pvp
and it limits your partner's pretty hard but i guess that is the point?
depends the comp i guess?
not many healers play NF though so ther'es that
for straight feral i like necro better but playing all 4 specs in pvp and pve
NF is the most versatile across the class
Playing all 4 specs necro is the most versatile
haha
ya. Im a boomy PvE main. resto druid in pvp
i mean like overall strength for each spec in each content
Necro is dogshit boomy
Night fae resto in arena is a bigger downgrade than necro anything else in any content
wat u mean
you gimp yourself the least playing NF
Necro is much better for boomie than night fae is for resto in arena
No. NF resto in arena, although it isnt good. still is much better than being fuckin necro boomy
yeah resto is the spec i play the least if at all
It's not even a discussion
and mostly only in dungeon
yeah you can actually heal as NF resto and convoke damage
necro boomie i would rather just not play
lmao
boomies are fucking cracked

and for bear i want soulshape
trihard
Playing necro boomy 15 min damp should literally be punished by law
idk the groups want tanks
this is why i hate the coveannt system though
^
i wonder how much better it would be for me to heal my splay comp with necro instead of nf
The difference is immense
U know whats immense? Perma Cward rollin when the enemy just trains 1 dude
so nice
tru
but i find my teamate dying not by lack of output, but by lack of ability to heal them. They only ever die when they let me get cc chained for 25 fucking sec
Ima be hoj or db out of form, and then i call every single cc they are about to chain on me, and they just let them all go through
fucking pisses me off
sneak into dps spec for a match just to troll them
lol
Yeah fleshcraft immune the hoj @blissful belfry
shadowplay, but with a convoke boomy poppin outta da back line
It is nice, or would be nice. But ya
any FUCKIN help could be nice too
i was wondering if 3 dps hybrid would become competitive with how wild offheals were and the burst meta but apparently not
U cant play a comp without dispel
Thus you need a priest
tell that to prot pala
Or any healer that can dispel
Ah yeah the famed era of protpala dominance as a solo healer that we saw... never
Shadow Priests still got Mass Dispel which works the same as the Healer’s Dispells

also ret pala going to be dispelling you don't worry
ret shadow rogue incoming watch out
you ever see those 10 ret bg groups
no need for 3 hybrid. Just get a venthyr hpal if you wanna cheese ook ook. These fuckin shitters just bubble on open to ashen and crit you for 20k. what other dps spec u know of that can pull u out a few hits of 15 to 20k
I thought about trying it in BGs for fun
saw this on my feed, felt like it applied
I’m redoing all of my key binds tonight 
all? ouch
I've never been able to redo all at once. I always change 1 or 2 at a time
to get used to it
I just started playing necro feral. I have a lot of buttons I’m gonna need to do and the way it’s set up isn’t optimal for PvP
only drainur was good at protpala
I gotta have my damage cooldowns and utility + arena 1,2,3 macros and focus macros
and ppl still malded
even though there were only like
25 prot paladins above 2.4
or some shit

My biggest gripe on finding rbg groups on na
Is why do these idiots make the weirdest rating req for groups
Like this one is "1840 cr min push"
So fing random
Like 1400 1600 1800 2100 no other numbers should be listed idiots
leader is 1840
obviously needs other 1840
none of that 1800
yeah
died in 0.1s

good game blizz
3 feral convoke?
bruh there's ways to counter triple rogue lol
they're annoying but they're not that bad unless one of em is a carry with 226 ilvl and you are like combatant gear
Yeah we probably had counterplay if we stayed in the start of game room
And I just found 1 in stealth
Idk why you implied the gear made any difference
My priest died in under a global
We could have 100 ilvl or 226 ilvl, the gear is never a factor
Only whether or not I can get em outta stealth
Problem is that we were waiting for them for 2 minutes and they weren't opening so I went to try and find one randomly assuming they were waiting for high dampen

Lol
perfect
are there
blizzard bnet avatars that are no longer availible?
also
does elvui require tomcat coords to be installed or can i remove it
word
hey guys are this stats and trinkets good for g druid?
thanks just got to 1600

Can you soothe hunter pets when they beast wrath?>
Anyone know?
Is kyrian viable for feral?
Any good resources for balance Rated battlegrounds?
Just general tips, talent discussion etc.
are dots the main priority for generating AP, while mostly casting CC? Or are we hardcasting wrath/SF much?
Thx glyph that's all I needed for my r1 title catch me at blizzcon with fanbois all around me
Put up dots til you're full asp, then go into eclipse > 3 surges > back to putting up dots
Hiya, anyone got a good setup for Balance in RBGS. Am Nightfae
Mainly talking about soulbinds
start by enchanting da gear 
wtf is this fucking hunter nameplate bug that keeps happening
literally just lost a game because he went behind a far pillar and I just didnt know where he is
yea, is it specific to plater?
it happens to me every hunter game multiple times per game
getting on my damn nerves
but thanks for the fix
This Zqi fella is my hero. Running bell in arena and just convoke nukes people
thanks, should i get lightless force on weapon for pvp too?
I think so
what pvp addons do you use?
TotalRP3
It lets you make a great character background description so u can be the knight that you want hidden in a cat
@tardy hare AND STAY IN HERE!
Bear is not allowed in pvp
yes, make sure it doesnt happen again
maybe try keeping him in here with this tactic:
It's called soulshape
Moth/frog or bust
100%
cat for ulimate cateness
Never been nightfae

Yall wack unicorn is bis
Yea I was fae for a couple weeks hoping it wouldn't be too much of a difference
But necro is just so disgustingly good
Oh so actual question
Is necro bugged for boomie
Says 43% buff on adaptive on tooltip in pvp
Necro is 35% for boomie + conduit @green valve
You stupid?
It's always been 10% more amp for boomie than other specs

It was 20% for resto/feral/guardian, 30% for boomie since shadowlands launch
Then 9.0.5 buffed it to 25 / 35%
Respectively
ah
what legendary is the best one for necro feral
Draught
How exactly does draught work; if you rake offtarget will all your bleeds on maintarget suffer for it or only the rake portion of it?
Each effect is independent
Nice, thx



whats the stat priority for necrolord feral druid?
i play resto mostly and was wondering if i can have a smooth transition if i want to go feral :/ any advice??
Think vers > mast > haste
200 more or less of haste or mastery will not make or break your play as either spec
Just have an agi weapon
Yo. We're 3 pretty new players to wow that geared up to 190ish ilevel through covenant campaign gear upgrades and low M+, mainly to play arena. We just recently learned about the 40% versatility upgrade from the 2x pvp trinket bonuses. Getting kinda crushed in the first arenas and wondering if its worth it for us to farm honor and "downgrade" our 190 ilevel pve gear to 158 pvp gear with full versatility bonus. Is the 30ish drop in ilevel/main stats (stam/str etc) worth more or less than the 40% versatility bonus at ~160 ilevel?
Not even close
And the trinket set bonus is only to output, not to the defensive benefit of versa
It won't make you tankier
190 is already extremely low
When nearly everyone is 220+
Dropping to 158 you'd literally have half the HP of others
The best thing you could do if you really want to gear up fast is spam yolo rbgs for the fastest conquest, and buy conquest pieces
Honor pieces would take ~90k honor to get a full set at 197 ilvl
Which is just a silly time commitment when you can get a full set of conquest
Yeah okay, making alot of sense ofc, clearing it up alot. thanks!
by yolo rbgs you mean just get into any rbg group we can and basicly not care if we win or lose?
You definitely want to win, more so not care about rating
yeah okay, will we even get into groups tho? at 190 ilevel?
Yolos just form whoever queue up, win or lose, gg go next fast
Hm probably
If not just form up
You'll prob lose more than you win at first but there is a range of mmr where it's just yolos vs yolos and everyone's undergeared
is it very active now? wasnt a few years ago when i played, was hard getting a group going and insane ques
Hm it's 6 months into the season
yeah okay, fair enough, makes sense, just expect to lose alot at first then i guess
It's just much faster conquest than arena
And make sure you do the weekly quests too
In Oribos there's always 2 pvp weekly quests near the vendors
Get you some extra honor/conquest
yeah those have covered
thanks though
gonna go see if we get some rbgs then running

The vendors are great and all but gearing up when you're coming in late to the season is very slow and you'll lose a bunch to people that outgear you bad
Well maybe not 'very slow'
aight ur done
Ok tian
do not ever call me that
yeah the best way is spam yolos and get some conquest
Yes
You should play guardian in rbgs
Its very easy and rewarding for minimal effort
@stray sigil you think we win if we both just play hotw and survive out the ele?
Issue with going on sham is we both guarantee eat the entire eq damage
@clear pulsar Just curious about the rbgs you were talking about yoloing for gear earlier, how many rbgs approx do you think we need to lose til we reach the mmr where we get matched with other yolo teams?
Idk mmr depends on everyone in the group so
Don't sweat it too much, you get some conq for losses in rbgs as well
If they're 'close'
Like 1500-1000 points
i think we honestly just
drag the ele behind pillar
and nuke it
hes running a cheese build hes got no healing
Bro the leggo isnt that sick, he can heal just fine tbh
But we win if we survive the ele I agree
I mean the earth shield leggo
Isn't that sick
It happened. Faced resto druid + bm in 2s. they tilted me into /afk before i actually lost
@clear pulsar how much do we get for losses?
i actually dont know what to do vs that on any of my toons
besides a lucky gib
Intellect;
Versatility;
Haste;
Mastery;
Critical Strike.
is this correct for balance night fae?
so full haste vers pvp gear?
Yeah, after 5 min in the game i was thinking what our win condition was. Shadow resto vs resto bm. I realized we had none. i left
I just keep getting stunned trapped clone clone while my spriest just run around trying to hit air
had to leave the game otherwise if i had played til the end i woulda needed to buy a planed ticket to go break all 10 fingers of whatever shit IQ animal decided to put this in the game
Some players sprinkle in some mastery as well
over haste
but mostly haste afaik
Both of you aggresively purge the druid and mindgames him at 50% hp
there's definitely a win con
not that it's easy
Both of you? what purge do i got
0
What class is better with boomy in 3s, destro lock, spriest or mage ?
I would have thought mage, then spriest and last lock, what makes the spriest better
And sham or pala as healer i would assume
Ursoc's Fury Remembered VS. The Natural Order's Will for Guardian druid flag carrying, flag spinning?
First time my partner or I touched arena 2s, was mostly goofing with a friend to work towards the spider mount, but had a blast and I think I want to try for real.
We hit 1200 in about 1.5 hours, is there a ballpark rating where the intensity of games rise notably?
I came in using PvE gear, around ilvl 223. I see Vers as our best pvp stat, but how impactful is that? Like, if I wish to push up, should I be actively looking to swap crit/mast pieces out for vers? Is there a minimum % considered to be necessary? And is the Vers trinket output bonus worth picking? Ive already got a stun trinket, but presently rocking a 226 unbound changeling.
Nix that, just saw the pin deep dive. Exactly what I was looking for
So....
Since we’re gonna have a large kitty population in 9.1.....
And they have a MS.... how the hell can I deal with them as literally any of my toons, My Boomy, Dk, Pally, Priest and Hunter
Especially my Boomy and Pally, I struggle a lot with Rogues and Ferals with these 2 toons, my Dk and Priest on the other hand can actually counter them hard
Do bm have a mortal strike?
@arctic rivet ez just change all your toons to ferals as well
@blissful belfry yea bm has a pet with mortal strike
what % is it and can it have 100% uptime?
i can heal up to 75% camp on most matchups
but bm's at 55-60% its just unhealable
in 2s
LMAO
Fuck I need to get my boomy feral gear
I keep forgetting and sorry I keep repeating myself, is Feral still strong as Kyrian? Ik Necro is best for Cats but I main Boomy so I much prefer staying at my strongest on my main spec
kyrian is def still strong but it isn't gonna be as good as necro
kyrian sounds fun af to play tho xD
Anyone finding it hard to kill with necro without your healer fully supporting a go in 2s?
Playing around 1800 and feels that eay
Way
Tho I'm mostly in haste gear rn sadly so maybe that's it?
Its situational/based on personal preference
Play with a priest, mindgames op
Yeah necro feral
And playing with a priest yep!
Just have mostly haste gear as I was boomy for a while
Hopefully the mastery gear makes a diff
Haste is good for necro
I'm stupid and sending 1 AM messages on crack 
@stray sigil why u are so horny

Vaseline mdr lol
No vaseline ofc
what is best legendary for Battle Ground Tanks
Sleeper ofc
and stat priority? i Play Heal in Arena but i Think about Play Guardian in rbgs
so i have versa/ haste
is versa haste much Worse?
It doesnt matter too much
haste give damgur















