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hovering doesnt work
Lmao ret can dispel polymorph
Legacy of the sleeper
RET GETS FRIENDLY MAGIC DISPEL BABY
how do u see this
Pretty much no cooldown
did u log to ptr?
Did Rets got nerfed or buffed?
Ultimate Retribution (PvP Talent) has been redesigned – Mark an enemy player for retribution after they kill an ally within your Retribution Aura. If the marked enemy is slain within 8 seconds, cast Redemption on the fallen ally.
HAHAHAHAHA
NO WAY
There’s a lot of shit to read and kinda multi-tasking rn so I can’t really read it fully
I dunno. Other discord linked it. So I guess going on the PTR maybe.
That sounds like a buff?
within 8 sec of the kill
It's only a revive if you get the kill back
Ultimate Retribution (PvP Talent) has been redesigned – Mark an enemy player for retribution after they kill an ally within your Retribution Aura. If the marked enemy is slain within 8 seconds, cast Redemption on the fallen ally. Wait. Isn't redemption the name of the paladin res?
yes
Wait wait
WTF SO THEY CAN BATTLE REZ IN PVP NOW???
I'm gonna punch ur throat bud
Bruh whats with them catering to ret pallies
Cardinal Mending (PvP Talent) has been redesigned – Increases the healing of Prayer of Mending by 50% and its jump range by 10 yards.
slippery slope argument is dumb
Ah nvm
no it isnt
I was gonna laugh that they buffed pallies instead
slippery slope is how game is in its current state
Pissing off everyone else even more as they left ret and warriors untouched before this
FUCK
FUCK HOLY PRIEST IN PARTICULAR
i think its a buff early on
That's for shadow too @junior plover
until dampen kicks in
.....Fuck
Bro you gotta read full notes hello?
its overrepresented in ape brackets
Fuck holy
no its holy too
But Holy Priest Fade now ignores healing reduction effects
What
what are you smoking

Yall some dum mfs
So they can use it
yeah greater heal
To ignore MS now
My bad
Greater heal not greater fade
But i don’t see the 4 sec to 3 sec greater fade nerf on Holy
It specifically says for Shadow tho....
2nd to last holy line...
Oh found it

Sorry I’m a bit blind
Lol face
They run trinity perma anyway
Trinity got axed
So they're removing the atonement buff from trinity and making it baseline
Which is still a buff probably
But it's fine!?
I just don't get why disc got buffed
hi is this the priest discord
The dh new pvp talent isnt in the PTR yet
And hpriest got trashed
Good
It's feral discord
Holy can fuck off
I love Disc priest better
Holy is toxic
I suck as Holy I’m more used to playing Disc so...
Yeah only the small spells @cold escarp
That and my priest mains Shadow so...

Disc and Shadow literally uses the exact same stats and exact same leggo
thats fine
So Disc buffs is a big benefit for me more
anyone have leggo recommendation for guardian bear rbgs?
I don’t wanna spend soul ash another fucking leggo for a spec I’ll rarely play
Legacy of the sleeper
sick thx
When I can play the healer spec that uses the exact same stats and leggo as my main priest spec
So yeah Holy can screw off I’m happy Disc got buffed

I wish the priest discord was active
That server is very quiet
I genuinely feel bad for Dks....
As a former Dk main.... the Dk server are crying rn....
imagine being a dk player
Give them something plz make UH great again
Yeah
Its fucking torture being a Dk
Sure rn 9.0.5 Dks are fucking powerful
They’re very strong
But 9.1 they’re fucked from the looks of it
Its a solid borderline-S tier
i disagree
Dks are good with TSG, TWD and Boomkin
Dks work really well with Boomies
And even ret pallies
walking dead only comp i'd put in playable tier there
You never heard of the Death Star comp?
You realize classes that have spent entire expansions being the best melee will get no sympathy from us ye?
When feral's been the melee most often in the gutter
Basically Dk and Boomkin with healer, Dk locks everyone together for the boomy to free cast or free convoke
Everything fucking dies
Eh well I can agree with that for DHs
u should see
Dhs can fuck off lol
some enh frost dk pvers
But I feel bad for Dks bec Dks was my main since WOTLK
hero cleaven not as great
Hate speech wow
boomkin dk good
Possibly that will be the only or one of the few viable comps for Dk in 9.1
Since shroud will really help Boomies a lot
Ok yeah
Pvp talent for ele and enhance
Shammies are gonna be busted
show for druid
They just received new shit
Nothing new for druid this week
Spirit Link got removed tho
its not spirit link totem
I can show the ones from last week for feral
its spirit link
Was that one of the BIS resto shammy abilities?
no one uses it
If you havent seen
the MS one
Not so familiar with shammy abilities so....
thats it
Ah ok
and some boomkin clone one
Shamans are lucky
Also I heard Turbo still works with FDKs
Fdk/Enhance/Healer (priest preferred for dark archangel and power infusion)
Ok I thought for a sec it was spirit link totem too
Kinda freaked out
@lime light wowhead
Only 1 patch this week
New PvP Talent: Static Field Totem.
??
nothing just name
ofc
hpriest nerfs
fade nerfed
pog
Honestly
I feel most of the Dk mains and former Dk mains who were forced to swap mains due to their current state of their class (me included) are just waiting for WOTLK Classic
dk is always hit or miss class
o kurwa
not surprised
Judgements of the Pure (PvP Talent) is now available to all specializations (was Protection only) and has been redesigned – Casting Judgement on an enemy cleanses 1 Poison, Disease, and Magic effect that they applied on allies within your Aura.
co jest
feral ret stocks going up
FERAL RET 
Druids are one of the safe classes where its always powerful and good like Warriors?
Or no?
Bec Ik warriors are always strong in arenas in pvp all the time
cause every spec is entirely different role
priest has 2 heal specs and 1 of them always viable
We’re literally a Swiss army knife class
Feral is almost never good
at least
Thats why I love Druids
Boomie is sometimes good
Rdru is usually good because there's 5 healers in the game
You can be ranged caster, a stealth class, a healer, a tank
boomie is same as feral
You’re literally everything lol
It doesn't take a genius to balance them
its never bad never insane just good
u talk pve?

cause i dont talk pve in pvp forum
Ofc this is #pve
yeah no
i mean in pvp
boomy is good but was boomy ever in a state that fire mage is now?
nope
and feral is never in a state that its best melee too
just nature of the class
YO HAHA THE RET DISPEL IS ACTUALLY INSANE I JUST REALIZED
YOU ROOT THE TRAP
IT CANT EVEN HIT ROOTS
Only hunter spells
Lmao
yes but they put hunters mark
Yeah but it's 50/50
just like they do vs warlock pets
Judgement is judgement
divine toll would dispel like 6 buffs

doubt
It's debuffs
If a ret has to waste divine toll defensively then honestly that sucks for the ret
Ret win condition is 1 shotting with divine toll lol
Right
So if the ret is dead in 1s
Cuz healer in cc
They should just die
Save divine toll for next game

Better*
It’s just awkward design
ret summarized
maybe
U got a big pp?
average tbh
Good
Imagine root beaming ret's healer
I like average pp
Lmao
The legendary shouldnt trigger the new pvp talent
$deport
Axtin do u stream big dam feral games
u guys overreacting
Overreacting to a ret having 8s magic dispel
Yes.

Don't forget
The dispel just works automatically as they pump
So they'll end up dropping some dots and shit
rets needed some utility
now they can safely nerf the dmg without making the class useless
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I think the divine toll lego will dispel
It actually didn't seem that good considering that divine toll does no damage outside of seraphin/wings
like the shield legendary for example?
If anything they buffed the lego
does divine toll proc zeal?
That's what I'm asking
Lotta holy power though
just play tbc loll
Tbc sucked
chan said him playing beta is first time enjoying wow in a long time
hey ill take 6 month
thats a decent amount of time
I'm sorry gentlemen I appear to have missed where in the patch notes the feral buffs are
i couldnt tolerate slands 6 month

tbc has more replayability than classic
Classic = good
classic on release was dogshit
Anything older than legion is shit
Sargeras was the best big bad

Yeah I played a mage to 60 made a stupid amount of gold and gave it to some random kid named beaver
classic is there forever
Hope beaver out there throwing change at hoes
Everytime someone 'new' comes up
if u go on the non progression servers
Yeah right
It's the first time X player is enjoying it in a long time
It's not the same
Every beta is like that lmao
Obviously
Yall are cracked
They aren't even making fresh servers
Is there a resource that shows all the upcoming honor talents? Having trouble finding a single source
ye wowhead
The ptr should have most of them
Wowhead makes summary posts
That doesnt show the new pvp talents effects
With all the changes thus far
Thanks
Yeah every game ever has hype beta
No u don't understand
What was that shitty cartoon style wow killer
i just need tbc to last enough until new cod release
With tbc out soda will finally be happy
That had a fun beta i played it
The new dh pvp talent isn't in game yet
Reckful will have his rogue again
Sodapoppin is a beta simp
Humanity will be saved
“New honor talent: Rodeo”
Doesn’t show what the new talent is. Lol
They have actually
here datamined
There you go
DH gets shadowmeld as a pvp talent XD
shitty version for 10 sec but ye
What did it cost u
They made the kyrian leggo 131 mastery instead of 5% flat
Which means it'll be affected by stat dr
Buff feral
I'm gonna be building my raised bed gardens while I wait for feral to be OP
When will they datamine those?
Perhaps I will ship you guys some succulent beef steak tomatoes
Or some to die for peppers and squash
True
Honestly rs pvp is peak pvp

I told her to hit up face with her lewds
egirls arent real

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I can't find the honor talent datamine thread for the life of me
I'm also on a phone right now so that doesn't help
here u go
Thanks, that does show today's changes but I thought I saw updates or new honor talents for druids in a prior update
Having difficulty finding it
There's a wowhead post that gets updated every time new changes come out
I don't have it on hand tho
Gotcha, I'll see if I can dig it up
@silver prism best way to start is just ask shit
Someone will have a relevant answer
You can look at pins 4 guides or just ask if u have something diff

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@vestal citrus did u see the mies clip of his kpop girlfriend in his room
"I don't know if I'm gonna fuck her or kick her out" while she watching his twitch chat lmaoo
Yeah it's worse
@silver prism yeah im fr "kk" is what weird dudes on LoL say to people they think are chicks


I'm glad u censored the fr word
dont say that weirdo slang in my channel
Don't say that shit in here
Fr*nch
boy im budweiser born n bred

We need more moonkin in here
I'm polska gurom
third world country tryna talk shit eh
Im NA french, best kind of french
Idk all the french people I've ever met
Are like
Super pretentious and just dicks all around
Too important to learn english properly
Cuz they got their french
And all that
Will whisper u in game in french
Knowing very well u can't understand it
Yaboi
Don't have opinion on quebec
Québécois
fuck the queen
yap
down with the monarchy
just waitin for her to join
kill old white ladies
You reckon bill gates got a divorce to get in on that queen action?

no, he got a divorce so he could marry a young pretty girl
whats the value of an hold hag anyway
Mate she's the queen of engald
I'd let him smash

Looks like they agreed to stay together until their last kid was 18
So I can't imagine the terms were too bad
Girls dont fuck for looks, they fuck for money
nah its super chill actually
they dont have a prenup but they both pretty much agree on all shit
like money towards the charitys and shit
do you guys think that next patch we'll be running life and death lego with MS talent or still using draught?
The queen needa meet an arms warrior soon. She prolly in execute range. Condemn that hoe
Probably draught still
Circle in some matchups
and all her CDs up
But it's super awkward to use
she's in deep dampening thats for sure
Ever seen billions?
That scene after he divorces his wife and jumps into a hottub of hookers
Get some gates
I own two Arabian Stallions.
legendary.
he got banned from twitchy
absolute fucking tradgedy but he will press on against all odds
is necro or nf better for guardian rbg
Calling a baby uggo. What a degenerate
It’s a baby...
"How cute?" Bruh looks like an alien chill
Jesus Christ
Whenever people comment on appearance of others I assume it’s projection
To feel the need to comment on a child rofl.
Fair
damn
im
4 car bombs deep
building garden plots irl
farming 99
@vestal citrus heels are underrated
stone cold sold the late 90s wwe for his heel shit
same with the rock
they always funny af and put up a good show
what do yall do with vicious saddles when you bought all the mounts?
just delete em?
Colby Covington is a good example
Dudes a dork, but went full maga to save his career
Havent had a carbomb since like spring break my junior year lmao
they keep buffing new moon
wonder when it will be viable
up to 100% spell power now lol
thought it was both first n second
It's a viable talent tho 100%
listen bro
i am absolutely crushing this 18-1900 bracket as a necro boomie lmfao
so what if i lost rating
i look cool
glyph of stars, necros shield around it, high warlord pig sticker with mop enchant sticking out obnoxiously glowing
bout to start casting moons n shit
also kinda bs weapon enchants dont show in cat form
they should make your paws glow or some shit
Now tell me your honest opinions
If Dks get exactly how they are currently with Heartstop removed and replaced with Shroud
Will Dks be viable like at all for PVP?
For Ferals is the go to Necro cov and Deep focus leggo?
Necro yes for leggo I forgot the name of it....
It was something circle last time I heard but ask someone else tho bec I main boomy
Symmetry is the lego you want for Kyrian feral specifically tho but for Necro idk
got back into wow after like 3 months.. heard convoke got nerfed (I kinda hated convoke anyway...) thinking of playing necro... would that be a bad choice or a fine choice
I also wanted to play resto in arena
I want to try pvp as nf feral and I keep finding conflicting info on the first leggo to build. Lots of places say circle and others symmetry or apex? Is there a shoe-in for nf feral?
I think apex is BIS but then again I havent been keeping up with meta for months
I heard surv and BM hunter were cracked and I was so confused.
Apex was never bis
Necro is very good for feral
And the only good covenant for resto in arena
Symmetry is the general recommendation. Circle is an ok choice for necro but doesnt really do much for night fae.
I use my boomie for raid and can't not have convoke 😭 maybe I'll go symmetry and hope for the best. thank you!
@clear pulsar is there a bug with ff and details
why does it show up as like 200 crits sometimes
Thats the initial direct hits
It's 5 direct hits for like 130 each
Then 6 ticks of the bleed
sometimes it doesnt show the bled dmg then or what
on a dummy
I've never seen it bugged
Personally
But they're the same damage id so each cast ends up as 1 cast, 11 hits in details
Maybe it got fucked cuz you just cast FF then stopped hitting and combat dropped
Then you only saw like, the last partial tick in the new combat segment
Sigh why do we have to farm 7 million honor to upgrade these vault weapons
Today I learned.
@clear pulsar how you feel about draught?
I thought it was kinda wacky but weirdly situational.
It's definitely bis for necro
Interesting.
And I think it's pretty playable for other covenants
Feral legendaries are mostly pretty underwhelming
Draught necro is the only combo that really stands out
Cuz then you play lunar inspiration and your 3 main dots get buffed by a lot
By both effects
Verdant
And do you use adaptive swarm before or after you dot up a target?
Whenever u can
F in chat bois
F
i was just tryina play double hyrbid toxic alt shit
I like that pikaclaw isn't instantly 2.4
and we fought him
we also beat him in the 2nd game tho
the shaman i was playing w accidentally left on his IQD for some reason adn we cheesed him
xD
hes pretty bad at feral no cap lol
think he swapped necro and hes spamming bites
Yeah makes me happy
Cuz he has big stans
And if he had any success instantly as feral it'd be unbearable
But even playing with sterge on rsham he loses at 18hundo
To cringers like zenithox playing ret enhance 2s

Nah jk bro I respect the double dps 2s hustle
xDD hey man i think its toxic too tho
we can dampen healers as double dps
its ok at least i dont play double dps on my feral tho
Yikes some DK and WW just ganked me at that world quest in rev and somehow even with balance affinity came back and rage fat finger keyboard roll 1v2ed them haha.
Metaphors' cd tracker's proper cooked @vestal citrus
My guy's practically got their entire action bars
In his screen
Man he's been stuck 1800 for so long it's crazy

Idk if he's out now
oh i thougth he got to 2k
oh nonono
Hey guys!
I want to play druid in 9.1. and i dont really come to a conclusion wich covenant i should pick .... i want to play somewhat competitive pvp as feral and boomie and heal and tank in pve
Would be kyrian best for my plan? Or necrolord? Convoke would be nice as boomy .. i cant decide :((((

Probably night fae is your best bet
Necro is a fine choice especially if you don't raid and/or want to play resto in arena ever
But kyrian is complete dog for resto in any content
You have to compromise somewhere tho
I would pick night fae but I don't know what exactly you mean with 'somewhat competitive' and what kind of pve and pvp you play
Simply because the night fae soulbinds are more versatile
And you didn't include wanting to play resto in pvp
@true sonnet
But I like necro better personally and am only Night Fae cuz I'm trying to sell keys to the best of my ability
Trying to pick a jack of all trades covenant/build for all content never ends well
Thank you f2f for your opinion so far... 🔥
I meant with somewhat competitive that i want to get 1,8 -2,1 maybe healing if needed in pvp too...
And on the pve part i am planing to only tank raids and mythic dungeons
Just ask yourself whether you care about pve or pvp handicaps more
Yeah i have to compromise somewher youre right ...
So
Night fae isn't very playable for resto in arena tbh
It's the most significant handicap between NF and Necro for any spec in arena vs m+
But necro for boomie in m+ is pretty bad too
So those are the main points to choose probably
If you're mainly interested in having both boomie and feral pvp available, Kyrian
If you want to be competitive in PVE as any spec, NF is your best bet
If you want to have all specs available to you in arena, including resto, I'd go Necro (even more so since it's feral bis)

Yeah It's gonna suck for m+
and pve in general
but I think Guardian kyrian is workable
I think kyrian is better for dps than for guardian in m+
Guardian is sooo tanky and the damage you get from bonding a dps is so bad as a tank
Cuz the pool gets eaten up by taking damage
As well as by FR

While it's honestly not bad for dps
Real answer tho:
It's just not Convoke
the meta will shift a lot once the patch drops
so just pick whichever you want
you'll likely need to grind renown again regardless
Yeah
NF is probably the safest bet
For right now the choice comes down to 'giving up' dpsing m+ or healing arena
Giving up necro cat 
If you don't plan on playing dps in m+ then go necro
If you don't plan on playing resto in arena then go night fae

Swarm is better than people give it credit for as resto in keys tbh
Draught necro as resto is actual crazy boss dam
And I think I might do that in 2 weeks
Also Emeni's haste proc thing is tremendous in bursting or spiteful weeks
I dont want to play dps in m+ , but i want to heal in pvp too so maybe necrolord would be best for me i guess 
Thank you guys for your input, have a great day 

i dont get the appeal of nightfae for resto in pve
for healing atleast
its kinda weird just random spells at random targets hoping it heals something
idk
probably better to use the resto convoke offensively, get some cheese kills occasionally
Sure if you somehow isolate a target at 30% hp
And your dps just happens to be afk
Then maybe you could get a cheese kill with it
Assuming they have no trinket or defensives
Resto offensive convoke just doesn't do much
guys verdant infusion for resto on hands or shoulder in arena?
How do people deal with the earthquake earth totem in arena?
Feel like that thing claps and can’t heal though it
It has smart targeting so it picks people who are low on hp as a priority
But the point is it distributes a bunch of hots
It always casts wild growth at least once
So you can then flourish that
In m+ it tops the entire group every single time
But rdru healing is too strong you really only use it for healing at very high stress moments in 20+ keys
it do tho
if i remember correctly there are no haste gloves
so if u craft gloves u get more haste
not according to my sources
oh yeah but thats pve
obv but if he didnt craft anything yet
why not pick the optimal choice
i think they will eventually
just make gloves cause that the optimal now
stat weight wise gloves and shoulders are smae
same
U don't play until the eq is over
No but unironically
Just don't engage with it lmao
I queued into a
Resto double ele
Triple eq
Whispered one of the guys after the game
He told me we were the first to win in 10 games
2k mmr baby
They literally popped all 3 eqs at start
And I guess people just stood in them
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Hey guys, I'm new top druid and I wanted to main guardian for RBGs, any guide out there? seems to be hard to find...
also, machtig BAER said hi. lol
Guardian druid:
Legendary: Legacy of the sleeper
Talents:
Brambles
wild charge(carrying)
Resto affinity
Bash/Mass entangle
Incarnation
Survival of the fittest(?)
Rend and tear(?)
How to play: thrash on cd, defensive or heal on heavy damage, hit the run buttons and travel form on flag carrying. Bear rotation shouldn't be that hard otherwise.
All that really matters is Brambles and incar though
Balance af works with brambles if you are base sitting
Saved me from a cocky rogue trying to sap cap a time or two
and covenant ?
I've only rgb'ed as Venthyr and Fae so far on bear. Fae can help you in 1v1s at bases, especially as you start off and people arnt as ready to insta interupt ConVoKe.
Necro is good to but I have no experience with it yet
what is the convoke for a tank spec? lol
Just casts a bunch of defensives
you dont really care about convoke, just Shapeshift
Well it's bear spells, which includes IF
But also gives enough rage for a few more casts of IF
I have fond memories convoking rogues in the back as they flee
Ok but why is hunter getting a 5s silence again
Best yet
it's Mythic Raid only

Disabled in PVP?
we'll see
Maybe it takes up a legendary slot?
Who knows
no need melee weapon to use string
or bomb
and he never pressed raptor strike
big pvedamgurer
no pvp damgurer
Thats my guess but also blizzard
Ion literally said gear doesnt matter
When 1 ilv is literally worth 1%
You got jebaited by reddit
literally 3s before the clip begins
he says
"For instance in Mythic Raiding"

Yeah he said people dealing 2x more damage in pve is a matter of skill
which is true
1ilvl actually does translate to roughly 1% dps in pve
As rdruid what do y'all do when ur partner is getting spam purged? Guess I should try to clone the priest/sham to stop it?
hey guys any tips for rbgs as druid tank? i got a lot of versa and 225 ilvl
dont die, dont let enemys cap your base
how to play guardian druid base defend
my friends guide
TY i think thats the basics lol
because rbg is a basic bracket
Run brambles and Incarnation for talents,rest really don't matter, and use sleeper legendary. Then afk 90% of the game unless its flag carrying
Ty. How about gear/trinkets?
If you got decent vers and don't get 1 shot then it doesn't really matter tbh. If you really want, run trink for stun break
wat
why would you ever not run a cc break trinket
ever
Thinking sleeper leggo for flag carrying, shouldn't need trink for base sitting because you shouldn't be getting sapped/sheeped or anything. Can def have trink though, not saying you shouldn't.
Sleeper doesnt have infinite duration
and wdym you "shouldn't"
you dont have permanent brambles
at some point you have to leave stealth
you stun the target, he trinkets, blinds you
gg you lost cap
I know blinds a thing and that's the only reason I'd run trinket as guardian tbh
I mean even clone










