pvp

[lime light]

by the pets hitting u all the time

idk he refuse to swap venthyr

refuse to swap bm

[cold escarp]

thats ur main comp?

survi jungle?

[junior plover]

Stop playing Kyrian idiota

Debil

[cold escarp]

true

all 3 play a non meta spec

[lime light]

he refuse to swap

to venthyr

or play bm

[junior plover]

Not him

Oh

[lime light]

and i dont have time for look for a new one

[junior plover]

He's Kyrian survi

ure necro

[lime light]

i would win in opener

[cold escarp]

oh wtf

[lime light]

every mirror

[cold escarp]

wtf is kyrian hunter lmao

[lime light]

if my hunter did some dmg

legit in last ssn

[junior plover]

MM

[lime light]

farmedone of the ferals

in this discord

every game

like not even close

[junior plover]

Survi played Kyrian too until 9.0.5

[lime light]

and this ssn they were bm venthyr

i had no chance

they just W on me

[cold escarp]

why would survi play kyrian doesnt the skill lose its purpose if ur melee

[lime light]

idk

he does some pve

shit

[junior plover]

It's still better than other options

[lime light]

idk

or m+

[cold escarp]

venthyr is better

[junior plover]

And survi has plenty of ranged damagur

[lime light]

i dont remember

[junior plover]

Bro venthyr 9.0

Was a dps loss

If you pressed ot

[cold escarp]

i mean now

[junior plover]

Yeah ofc

[lime light]

idk he does no dmg legit

and he is pver

idk why

he does no dmg

[junior plover]

Queue with me

[cold escarp]

drop that hunter get a bm

[lime light]

and he is good pver i think

[junior plover]

Cat cleave

[lime light]

i mean

[cold escarp]

good pve player doesnt translate to pvp skill

[lime light]

at 2.3k mmr we faced 90% of the players with 3k on mains

not even joking rn

[junior plover]

Double feral might be better than survi jungle

[lime light]

but it is how it is

[junior plover]

[green valve]

speaking of bm, feral and ret are on teh table for next season, bm or dh alt for 3rd

[junior plover]

Yeah even at 2k mmr 90% of people come rolling in on glad mounts

It is how it is

BM jungle still gonna be broken next patch

Or cupid

Or feral ret

Did u see ret legendary?

Fucking lmao

[green valve]

the kyrian one?

[junior plover]

Yes

[green valve]

sucks for ret op for holy

[junior plover]

Sounds much better than final verdict

You cast an extra 1.5 divine tolls

[green valve]

nah cuz youre modifiers are over by the time it procs

[junior plover]

Ah true actually I'm braindead

[green valve]

so itll just be a wet noodly dt

[junior plover]

Wtf

[green valve]

and doesnt reproc pelagos

[junior plover]

Yeah no you're right

[green valve]

its insane for holy tho cuz its generating holy power

[junior plover]

So obvious too

[lime light]

like

bm jungle is worst match rn

for survi jungle

2nd worst is ret arms with ret healing playstyle

that he does dmg with divine toll

and heals whole game

otherwise its easy

and with stormbolt on me and hoj on disc

[green valve]

just play bm lol its the same gear same cov same leggo just need a ranged weap

[cold escarp]

hes the feral

[green valve]

oh

well tell the dude to play bm

[cold escarp]

drop him

and drop the priest too for playing disc

when holy exists

[viscid remnant]

disc is prob better in jungle though

[lime light]

no idk

[cold escarp]

not when chastise into trap

[lime light]

the also problem is

queining into multi r1's

cuz they cant get q

at their rating

[cold escarp]

whats their rating

[lime light]

we legit q few games per 2-3 weeks

around 2.3k mmr

[cold escarp]

oh yeah

arena participation is so low

[lime light]

if we keep quening we gonna farm those too

[cold escarp]

maybe lowest of all time

[lime light]

like we did in s4 of bfa

[cold escarp]

i never had such bad ques

[lime light]

but the bm jungle man

i will have nightmares cuz of that shit

2 pets on perma Bestial wrath

chasing me

and feral sitting in bear form doing nothing

[cold escarp]

3 pets

[green valve]

i mean like i dk why hes playing survival

"its a mroe skillfull blah blah blah

[lime light]

idk i told him to play at least venthyr

[green valve]

the only difference is you press wildfire bomb instead of barbed shot

[lime light]

the problem is, he enemy survis does double of his dmg most of the time

too

[green valve]

its still teh same 4 buttons

[cold escarp]

sounds like a l2p issue then

[lime light]

ye

[cold escarp]

is it your friends

[lime light]

but i dont have time to look for someone else

[cold escarp]

why do you insist playing with them

[lime light]

neither i care, i will get him glad this ssn too, but my hair

might be grey

after that

or i might be bald

[cold escarp]

idk rating seems to deflate every time i check

first time i see such thing

[lime light]

no

u legit dont face

a normal 2.3k players

[cold escarp]

they all quit

i used to be that guy who ques at 2.3

and then i quit

[lime light]

they dropped and quit after

[cold escarp]

didnt que 3s in 2 months

[lime light]

they were prolly thinking we are chain losing, we are so bad and quit

meanwhile they are facing multi rank 1 players

that plays 10hrs per day

or with one guy that is getting boosted

and he mostly plays a class

that has perma survi and cant die

[cold escarp]

how do u even setup traps with that comp

priest has no stun

hunter has 1 min pet stun thats it

[lime light]

bash maim, hook root or my root

setting up trap isnt the problem

problem is lack of dmg in traps

and poor kiting by him

vs frost dks he dont even kite, he says

that his disengaged is 40 sec cd

and he cant kite

[viscid remnant]

｡oO

[green valve]

Lol

[lime light]

and also, casters cleaves can abuse his pet

and does it in most of the games

any caster cleave with burst

just killing his pet

and aftar that is a fiesta

him running away

and trying to resummon XD

today was my favorite

when melee cleave killed it

melee cleave with ww

he turtle and trying to ress

and monk ring it

XD

he was like ohh he can do it?

multi glad hunter btw

if i played a hunter, i would be so fucking anoying, just watch bicmex

how he plays and coppy

[cold escarp]

u can be annoying af as feral too

its part of the spec

[lime light]

ye

iam

thats why no one hits me

they try

but after a while they are like

lets kill hunter or a pet

and hunter ranodmly died

[cold escarp]

[lime light]

the only comp that can kill me is based on bm

cupid or jungle

with a priest

neither holy or disc

[junior plover]

Legit I am 3x better player now than 3 months ago

And I didn't move in rating

"It's easier to climb late in the season" lmao

If I played like I played when I hit 2100 I'd be hardstuck 1400 now

State of the ladder is giga wild

[viscid remnant]

feels the same

nobody 2 que with dead game in shambles

season gone too long

[vague mural]

I'm like 110 points up from when i quit pushing 3 months ago and started again really recently but i think thats also attributed to like

going from conbroke to necrochad

the games def feel harder

also the bracket is so empty when i was only like ~2300 mmr i queued into magnusz and he was like 2700cr

luckily i only lost 3 points lol

[junior plover]

It makes me somewhat hopeful that I'll just queue early next season and get glad first month lmao

[lime light]

if u talking about 2s

its not the same

as 3s

[junior plover]

Both 2s and 3s

But 3s more so

[vague mural]

ah mine was in 2s, 3s im only like 2k-2.1k range so games aren't dead yet

[junior plover]

I was 2.1k 3s start of season too

And I couldn't play for shit

Now we're 2k admittedly with a different 3rd but still

[lime light]

u can grind super high 2s

even if u not good

u can q ruski hrs

u can q super late

[junior plover]

True

[vague mural]

rusky hrs?

[lime light]

u can do a lot of things

[junior plover]

Sounds like tinfoil hat

[vague mural]

like russians?

[junior plover]

But if you queue at night in eu

[lime light]

q at the morning

[junior plover]

U get 100 more rating

[lime light]

when ruskis plays

[junior plover]

Than if u queue at dat

Day

[lime light]

they are legit 2.5 2.7k

[vague mural]

idk any russians that play on US servers

[lime light]

and clueless

[junior plover]

I don't think it's about ruskis

[cold escarp]

idk what ques u talk about i qued in 2s half my games were against r1 players

rarely saw ruskies

[junior plover]

People playing at night probably at the end of a long session

Tired

[vague mural]

are ruskis russians?

[cold escarp]

yes

[lime light]

yes

[vague mural]

ah i didn't know they also queued in US

thought was just eu

[cold escarp]

its just EU

we're EU

[lime light]

we are all eu

[vague mural]

oh then thats not the case for me then

xD

im an eagle riding hamburger eating druid

[lime light]

i personally think

u can get to 2.5k in 2s

easly

if u try hard

and u are lower ixp

but u need a guy to play with

lfg is not an option

like u are both 2k ixp

u got good gear

good comp

u will get 2.5k if u play properly

[cold escarp]

u realize 2.5 in 2s is like top 0.1%?

[vague mural]

rn im only 2.4k exp

also

at 2216cr it says im in the 99.8 percentile on ladder

and im not even high

[cold escarp]

2s rating is very deflated this season

[lime light]

no one cares if its top or not, there is plenty noobs in that bracket, ofc u gonna face r1's too

[cold escarp]

in EU if ur 2.4 ur top 1000

[viscid remnant]

not from eu = doesnt exist

tru or tru

[vague mural]

rip i dont exist

disappears

[cold escarp]

just move to poland

thats where all the good players at

[lime light]

big TRUE

[vague mural]

lmao

[lime light]

but most of the poland players dont play wow

cuz u have to pay a sub

polish players dont like to pay

[viscid remnant]

ye move to poland

[lime light]

for no reason

[viscid remnant]

[vague mural]

but yea idk about most seasons but rn 2v2 is def harder than 2v2 in bfa

[cold escarp]

kek

[vague mural]

i didn't rly push anything before bfa so i can't speak for other season before that

[lime light]

i kinda miss kyrian tho

cuz i could finish players myelf

with necro u cant rly

only ff swarm

but necro is way more fun

[vague mural]

i mean convoke was funny when people messed up a trinket

in 2s

3s you cry waiting 7 mins

for 1 convkoe cast

[lime light]

i died myself to a feral convoke today

cuz i fucked up

was my bad

[cold escarp]

feral convoke sounds like trash

[lime light]

it is trash

[vague mural]

it was great in 2s, its alright in 3s but not good

its better than venthyr in 3v3 and thats about all you can say about it LOL

[lime light]

convoke is rly good

if u are playing with caster

or maybe in some cases

when playing kitty

[vague mural]

fair

[kindred patrol]

at the very least its a high value cooldown that always gets high value cooldowns in return, not as bad as people say

[vague mural]

also @lime light i think the reason you said that about 2500 in 2s is specifically bc eu 2s is more inflated atm, rn if you are 2500 2s US you're rank 67

[cold escarp]

damn NA is even more deflated?

thats fucked

[vague mural]

2475 is top 100 US lol

2244 top 1000

[blissful belfry]

oh my, here goes my hope of getting 233 wep from 2s

[cold escarp]

i guess its because most of the streamers are NA

who tank rate to play with viewers

[vague mural]

not just that but NA is kinda dead rn, the other day i queued 6 games of 2s

5/6 were the same ww hpriest team

and im not that high

[lime light]

Iam only talking about eu

Dont know about na

[vague mural]

ah

[cold escarp]

2s is harder to climb this season than 3s

i'd stick with 3s

if you have ppl to play wtih

[lime light]

no its not

cuz u dont get anything from 2s

ppl dont try hard or buy it above 2.4k

[cold escarp]

yes but to get 2.4 is harder

[lime light]

and most of the players that buy 2.4k

do it from rbgs

[cold escarp]

its pretty common knowledge

[lime light]

big wrong

[cold escarp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/m3tj3m/2s_vs_3s/

here u go

What wutklanz sais, 3v3 top players compete @ 3300 rating. 2v2 @ 2700. So you pretty much play “better” players @ lower rating in 2v2 compared to 3s

that pretty much explains it

if ur a 2400 3s player u will hover on 2k in 2s cause the rating is deflated more

[lime light]

XD?

u are so clueless

not even worth spending my time to argue about it

cuz thats not gonna change anything

if u belive that 2.4k 3s player is 2k player in 2s

[cold escarp]

ok maybe not 2k but 2.2

[lime light]

XD

u are an ape

[viscid remnant]

[lime light]

u can legit abuse 2s

[cold escarp]

from my personal experience playing 2s in 2.4 i met mostly r1 players

[lime light]

cuz of the mechanic of it

perma damp

and playing pure counter comp

[viscid remnant]

ye like

[cold escarp]

if u could abuse 2s everyone would

[viscid remnant]

BM has no counter except a better bm

[cold escarp]

theres reason why no one does

[lime light]

iam not even gonna try going into it

cuz u see

u wont understand

lets change topic

[cold escarp]

what a cop out

[lime light]

i would have to log my retail, check the history of my games, show u that 90% of the players at ghetto 2.3k that plays are multi r1 and 3k + this ssn

meanwhile in 2s, there is plenty

ruskis abusers that just do damgur

and win

[cold escarp]

maybe now because all the top players quit playing ladder 3s

and just sit rate

idk

[lime light]

i would actually do it, cuz iam getting ixp boosted in classic

and have time

but the problem is

this game is so bad

and u cant log retail

and classic at the same time

why

no one knows

[vague mural]

in NA from what i've felt on multiple characters the bracket is harder in 2v2 at lower rating than 3v3 just bc of who you queue into, you queue into currnet 3k+cr players sitting their rating at only 2.1-2.2k cr in 2v2

[cold escarp]

yeah that was the issue

[vague mural]

idk about EU tho

[cold escarp]

idk how it is now

cause didnt play for a month+

cause game is trash

[lime light]

the problem is

most of the good players can be playing at like 1.5-2.0k

iam talking about r1's

cuz they are boosting

but pretty much at some point - i would assume 2.2-2.5k

there are legit players from this rating

cuz most of the boosts, as far as i know (to 2.4k)

is made in rbgs

and others are glad boosts for RMT

in 3s

[cold escarp]

idk im just glad i got to play vs so many r1s this season

was fun tbh

played vs AWC players

[vague mural]

yea 1.5k-2k are usually boost sales from the r1s but when you get to the 2.2k range you fight double rank 1s just queueing for fun

[lime light]

just q at my mmr in 3s, u gonna play more r1's

[vague mural]

i had queue sessions where i fought 0 non glads

[lime light]

last ssn i did like 30% of my games into loony merce

[cold escarp]

but thats because season is dead

it wasnt like this 2 month ago

its not normal

[vague mural]

i mean in 3s you fight rank 1 alts from my experience but not rank 1 mains

im talking about queueing into their mains at only 2.2cr in 2s

[blissful belfry]

Queuing into sterge's shammy at 1800 rating is really not nice

his main goddamn toon shittin on mah dude

[cold escarp]

did u get to play vs xaryu

[vague mural]

i did earlier in the season

[cold escarp]

hes always hovering 1.6-1.8

[vague mural]

haven't yet recently tho

[cold escarp]

cuz i think he just plays tbc now

[vague mural]

but yea again i can't speak for EU servers bc i never queued there but atm NA 2v2 is def harder than 3v3 to get rating

excluding finding a 3rd partner factor just play wise

[blissful belfry]

whenever i queue into sterge i notice too late. i get in the game. the shammy outdps both his dps and my dps. then im like, ''wait, i've seen this before'' i looka da name

ahhhhh

[viscid remnant]

Sux 2 be na i guess

[cold escarp]

as if its any differen

[vague mural]

just checked based strictly on position on ladder rn i'd be 2411cr in 2v2 on EU xD

[cold escarp]

in eu

[viscid remnant]

Its a bit different

Eu 2s is more alive

[vague mural]

lmao imagine having an alive community smh my head

couldn't be me

[cold escarp]

only slightly more alive

but not for long

if tbc release before 9.1

[vague mural]

i just want 9.1 to start :c

😿

[cold escarp]

just think if tbc release

they wont release 9.1 for another month or two

goddamn

9.1 in august i think

[viscid remnant]

Sl might be dead for the first 1-3 months of tbc

[lime light]

yes it will be

and come back for 9.2 or 9.15

[haughty compass]

I’m the worst healer, playing with my uh dk buddy

[junior plover]

They released 8.3 a week after classic

Or 8.4 or w/e

Don't remember patch numbers

But whatever major patch was after classic it was 1 week after

Or it mightve been BWL and that patch at the same time idk

[viscid remnant]

How do you play with a dk in 2s

Serious question

That class sucks so much cock

[blissful belfry]

I just want whatever conjecture of things happening to make glad easy to get so i can brag a title to unknowing people

[haughty compass]

Well we lose a lot

[blissful belfry]

rdruid frost dk could be fine? perhaps? Like, u go stealth, he hits the dps, grips in the healer, you rake stun one and maim the other. or just maim + bash. he chill streaks

[haughty compass]

He’s unholy

[blissful belfry]

ya

[cold escarp]

[haughty compass]

Venthyr

[blissful belfry]

i know, just thinkin bout frost

[cold escarp]

[blissful belfry]

sadge

[junior plover]

Rdruid frost dk is good

Good into warrior

[haughty compass]

Dudes been a 2500 player all of wow and we can’t hit 1800

[junior plover]

[cold escarp]

cause he plays venthyr unholy dk

[blissful belfry]

dude be lyin

[junior plover]

Tell him to git gud

[haughty compass]

I’ve known him for like 8 years he’s not lying lol. It’s probably me tbh

[cold escarp]

nah its probably the venthyr unholy dk

[haughty compass]

I suck at healing, I’m a moonkin bro

[cold escarp]

like bottom 2 spec in game with worst covenant

legit only fury is worse than unholy i think

even that is not 100%

[haughty compass]

Yea it’s so tough

[cold escarp]

tell him to respec frost

[haughty compass]

I hit 1800 on my demo lock in like 2 hours with a mw

[cold escarp]

there is 2h frost now

so he wont even need to swap wep

[haughty compass]

And this shit is wow hard mode

[blissful belfry]

mw

your a patch too early

[haughty compass]

Me and my friends play the off meta shit. It’s mostly fun. Until it isn’t

[blissful belfry]

i mean, i queuin night fae rdruid cuz im a main boomy. Still pretty decent, but sometimes i wish i was the right cov

[green valve]

mastery vers on draught yea?

[lime light]

i dont think so any dk spec is good in 2s

its only good into disc

u dont even need chillstreak

just pedle

with rdru maybe a bit better

than with others

cuz of vortex possibility

[vague mural]

yea mastery vers on draught

vortex on chillstreak or raise abomination sounds like it could be nasty then follow with limb but

idk that sounds like your only win condition

lol

[steel viper]

Can i do good 2s 3s as NF cat? OR should i switch? I have nf cause of pve

[lime light]

with the amount of bm hunters

NF is rly good

[vague mural]

necro is def better but NF is def still good, somethings may counter it a bit tho

kinda sad i was nightfae for so long i never got to try kyrian lol

[brave venture]

anyone know the best necrolord feral opener?

for general use

[green valve]

aight so started doing rake moonfire rip -> swarm -> cds -> ff -> re rip rake -> bite

[stray sigil]

tf rake zerk ff rip roar

[green valve]

that look better?

[stray sigil]

forgot swarm

prob swarm before the ff

so like

tf rake zerk swam ff rip moonfire roar

refresh rake/roar

[lime light]

roar rat

disgosting

[green valve]

sob we take roar as necro

[lime light]

both are ok

[stray sigil]

roar is prob better overall

actually not prob

it is better overall

[tardy hare]

Yeah but everyone cooked af

[stray sigil]

u are cooked

[viscid remnant]

Hahaha

Machtig been hating on necro since the start

[junior plover]

Why roar late

[lime light]

doesnt matter

no snapshot

[clear pulsar]

Fuji out here with the 1cp roar

Also roar snapshots FF

Not anything else

[blissful belfry]

after 3 days of begind carried and shuffling through 6 or 7 different comp. my warlock friend finally suceeded into getting carried to 2.1! boomy warlock pries

[clear pulsar]

Only FF

@stray sigil

Rake mf sr ff swarm rip

Order

Definitely goated optimal

Trust

[lime light]

tf today?

[blissful belfry]

How much honor is it to up every single pieve from 220 to 226 in pvp

anyone got a wowhead link or smth

[clear pulsar]

About 45k

[lime light]

around 4-5k per pice

3k for the shit pices

i belive

[clear pulsar]

I have a spreadsheet with each price but im in bed now

[lime light]

are u touchign yourself

monkaW

[blissful belfry]

wat u doin in bed, def aint nighttime in brazi

[clear pulsar]

Yeah its like 3k * 7 + 4.5k * 6 + 8k for wep

Something like that

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar are u dumb

u ff rip in zerk

means u get 2 points back lol

? ? ? ? ? ?

[clear pulsar]

Sure

Press zerk whenever

[lime light]

idk honestly

[clear pulsar]

Why would I include off gcd spells

[stray sigil]

he asked for a opener

[lime light]

why u apes

[stray sigil]

hello

[lime light]

zerk opener

[stray sigil]

? ? ? ?

[lime light]

but fine

[stray sigil]

like what

he asked for a oepner

i give him the opener

[clear pulsar]

I dont zerk opener

[stray sigil]

well

[clear pulsar]

But also

[stray sigil]

not gonna say u suk

but u kinda do

[clear pulsar]

U didnt even read what i told you

[lime light]

ZERKER OPENER TO GET INSTA BOLTED AND FEARED

[stray sigil]

u dont need to roar that early

doesnt matter

[lime light]

sorry i will go to sleep

too much NA for me

[clear pulsar]

You literally told him to 1cp roar after every spell

[stray sigil]

uh?

[clear pulsar]

Also sr snapshots ff

So if youre gonna run sr for ff damage

[stray sigil]

i said reapply rake roar after u do the opener

[clear pulsar]

U need to use sr before

[stray sigil]

sol ike

with the rest of ur zerk

u make sure u get another rake in

[clear pulsar]

Zzz

[stray sigil]

and with the cp u use it on roar

?

hello

[clear pulsar]

Whatever bro im not gonna go back and show u what u said im on my phone

[stray sigil]

u lose at the very most 1 tick of ff

but like

if u roar before

the opener is slower

so i mean go for w.e but thisisnt pve

[clear pulsar]

If youre not buffing ur ff with sr

[stray sigil]

u are

[clear pulsar]

Why are u running sr?

[stray sigil]

its not like u are using roar

after ff is over

LOl

have u tried the oepner

[lime light]

play softs its just better

[stray sigil]

looks like u havent

[clear pulsar]

Ff is snapshotted sr

[stray sigil]

ok ur an idiot

[clear pulsar]

I literally told u 3 times now

[stray sigil]

sr is not a snapshot

[clear pulsar]

Its not dynamic for ff

Go test lol

[blissful belfry]

its 49700 for the full set (excluding pants leggo)

jsut did the maths

[clear pulsar]

Hit a dummy

[blissful belfry]

oof

[clear pulsar]

Go for it

[stray sigil]

it is dynamic

[midnight magnet]

Nope

[clear pulsar]

Its dynamic for everything except ff

[gloomy token]

Its bugged

[stray sigil]

so im right

[clear pulsar]

Fuji a dumas

[gloomy token]

Because blizzard can't fix their shit game

[stray sigil]

its dynamic

but bugged

gg

ur opener is giga trash anyways

would take too long

my way u get everything in

[midnight magnet]

FF behaves like old snapshots: Trinkets, potions, SR and TF (not AS thank fuck) all get snapped

[stray sigil]

the rake stun

[clear pulsar]

Rake mf sr ff rip????

[midnight magnet]

if you get a SR in before the 5th on hit tick then it gets SR value but it aint consistent

[stray sigil]

but go off do ur optimal pve rotation in pve

LUL

[clear pulsar]

This is not even close to optimal pve opener

[lime light]

lmao kids still thinks it matters, just play softs

sr or not

doesnt matter

not gonna give u a win

just argue like lil muricans or brazols

[stray sigil]

ya u forgot swarm there bud

[clear pulsar]

Im gonna

[stray sigil]

and ur sr is still 2 points

[clear pulsar]

Punch ur throat

[stray sigil]

nop

[clear pulsar]

Yeah sr for opener

You sr 1cp 8 seconds in or something

Im gonna hump hump hop ur ass so bad

[stray sigil]

nop

ur bad

and u should feel bad

[clear pulsar]

[haughty compass]

Big smol brain cats

[stray sigil]

listen here

whos 3k cat and whos RAT BR cat

@clear pulsar

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Youre like 600cr off of 3k

[stray sigil]

nop

well

no

yes now

u are correct

[clear pulsar]

Cuz willy dont wanna carry u anymore

[stray sigil]

nop

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

i said to willy

[haughty compass]

I’m 900 away if that makes you feel better

[stray sigil]

u are shit

i cant q with u anymore

now he qs with another feral

[clear pulsar]

Hit up the paradise1

[stray sigil]

nop

p1

giga awful

[clear pulsar]

Hit up the vitalbrah

[stray sigil]

no cap

no i got the better plan

we q

[clear pulsar]

Hit up the GOD curio bt innovator Thunderzilla double feral to the top

[stray sigil]

double feral next patch

and we climb the ladder

what do u think

[clear pulsar]

Insane

One plays ms the other dont

Actual pog

[stray sigil]

both ms both draught

[clear pulsar]

We slay

[lime light]

feels like vaseline, after losing the argue

[stray sigil]

both train 1 target

gg

[gloomy token]

Get the double feral hpriest going

[clear pulsar]

Lmao ok i like that

[blissful belfry]

double feral necrolord r-aff, more healing than with an actual healer

[stray sigil]

just need a healer

[clear pulsar]

Laker

[stray sigil]

facts

[gloomy token]

Third necro feral

[clear pulsar]

Draught necro feral aff

[stray sigil]

@tiny oar

mfer quit the game tho

a bit unfort

[clear pulsar]

Bring back nujabes

[stray sigil]

sounds like another br mfer

[clear pulsar]

Nujabes a starcraft main now

[stray sigil]

sketch

[clear pulsar]

He a dreamgrove legend

Youre just new blood so you dont know

[stray sigil]

i am the leader now

doesnt matter

hasbeens

[clear pulsar]

Bro hold up

[haughty compass]

Way too much cat going on here

[clear pulsar]

Imagine the insane bites

Double kyrian feral

[lime light]

Feji leader of his room

[clear pulsar]

We bond one another

20% mastery

• 10% from pelagos @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

nop

i am never going kyrian again

[clear pulsar]

It will be so pog

Just insane dammies

[stray sigil]

i am bnecro u give me mastery from new lego

seems optimal

but then we cant split

[clear pulsar]

U dont get mastery

As necro

[stray sigil]

cuz u are gonna do no dam

[clear pulsar]

Its one stat per covenant i think necro gets crit

[stray sigil]

crit

wtf

no way jose

[clear pulsar]

Maybe vers

[gloomy token]

Necro gets vers

Because necro is for fite

[clear pulsar]

But its flat % so shouldnt be affected by trinket bonus

[stray sigil]

ok still vers

noty bad

more dam on bleeds ansd moonfire

ill take it

[green valve]

F so swarm after ff?

You guys confused the piss out of me

[clear pulsar]

You can swarm after FF and it's fully dynamic

And FF takes a second to tick the first bleed tick

So Swarm will affect all of the bleed

If you do it back to back

But SR and TF are snapshotted for FF

TF snapshots every dot, while SR is dynamic for everything except FF

So if you're trying to get up every effect on opener that's how I think you should do it. If you wanna be faster probably just don't moonfire

[arctic rivet]

Got symmetry leggo

[clear pulsar]

Another boomie converted

[green valve]

Aight so just tf before big dots and itll work out

We in it boys

Swarm somewhere around ff

[arctic rivet]

Nah I just got it when farming soul ash

Symmetry is only good for Necro feral right?

Or is it still good for Kyrian Feral?

[tiny tusk]

draught necro feral feels so good, idk if i can go back boomie now

Even b4 draught when I was using NOW it felt good

[clear pulsar]

Symmetry is good for kyrian/night fae. Not good for necro. @arctic rivet

[green valve]

Is it weird i kinda like necro boomie too

Run prickling and deep roots

[wise valley]

@clear pulsar spirit of nujabes always watching over us

Always sending good vibes

[surreal heron]

[clear pulsar]

Bruh he's still alive

[clear pulsar]

@vestal citrus you use elvui right?

The partyframes are so dogshit

Wait we talked about this hte other day right?

That you dont use it cuz addons dont anchor properly

Yeah gladiusex or something!?

I messed with it for a bit but

Bigdebuffs not being able to hook to it is such a big fat L

[kindred monolith]

is sleeper better on feet or waste?

for bear

[clear pulsar]

I spent all weekend tinkering with elvui tho

Got it to look halfway dece

The effect of legendaries is the same regardless of slot @kindred monolith

Waist and feet also have the same stat budget pretty sure

[kindred monolith]

okay thank you

[clear pulsar]

So just craft it on whatever is a bigger upgrade or smaller downgrade in terms of replacing what you got

Also

You know what's funny @vestal citrus

The diff between making a leggo on big vs medium slot, like BOAT, VI, Symmetry
235 helm with 226 gloves is a whole 2 primary stat increase over wearing 225 helm with 236 gloves

That's it

Total secondaries are the same amount, it's just 2 primary stat

[tiny oar]

Ya just break their ankles

[clear pulsar]

Lake

We triple druid queues next season

Triple necro

Triple draught

Double feral with resto aff + resto with feral aff

Beat every melee cleave cuz triple thorns

[tiny oar]

bro that sounds disgusting lowkey lmao

[clear pulsar]

Beat every mage team cuz cant sheep anyone

Beat every setup comp cuz triple swiftmend coming out of cc

Each druid train a diff target too

[tiny oar]

Resto could just play guardian aff like big pepega cuz u dont even need stuns

Actually unkillable comp

[clear pulsar]

No pussy shit

You do big dammies

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

Lake always trying to weasel into guardian aff play

[tiny oar]

Fuk u ima draught gamer only

[clear pulsar]

I bet you aint even a lakers fan

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

That's aight I wouldn't be one either rn

[tiny oar]

I needed to play guardian into axtin fucker just raw pumped the dam, necro feral seems actually nuts

[arctic rivet]

Oh awesome 😄

So if I do decide to try Feral I can easily do so then with that leggo

[stray sigil]

lakerz quit tho

he wont q

[tiny oar]

Ya sad days love u all still 💚

[dreamy pond]

What are the go to Covenants for Feral next season?

Leveling a boomy, so was thinking of going Kyrian, but I hope I am not making a mistake and gimping the spec I really want to play

[clear pulsar]

I'm setting a date for August I'll let you know when the patch actually releases

Marked on the calendar

Be on the lookout

[dreamy pond]

🥲

[clear pulsar]

It also takes like

4 dialogue choices to swap

[dreamy pond]

I just hate grinding Renown but I guess I gotta do it

[dire nymph]

world content is so trash tho

and the monkeys in lfr make it harder than heroic

[dreamy pond]

I feel like an Alien going from ww to boomy

Even druid as a whole

[rigid linden]

Yeah I take every thing back about renown

I got 0 to 30 in. Day

It's piss easy

But there is some luck to it

Callings and lfr drops

[junior plover]

Without spaming heroics you can get like 28

To 30

[formal hedge]

is night fae still better for feral in 2s as double dps with a ret or is necro stronger for a half rot/half burst playstyle rather than double burst

[honest mesa]

Re-doing campaign still hella aids

[viscid remnant]

If u dont want extra soulbinds there isnt any need iirc

In necro you use the first one anyway

[junior plover]

Necro def better for double dps cuz it's much more durable

And has potential for better offhealing

[loud epoch]

convoke is the way

[formal hedge]

why is it more durable? cause necro has baseline more defensive values?

[kindred monolith]

can anyone point me in the right direction for a guardian guide for pvp?

[humble void]

Balance bros: do you use 2h Staffel of MH and OH? I have seen both and am confused

[cold escarp]

staff is better

some ppl use mh because thats what they got in vault

staff has haste, mh oh has mastery

haste > mastery

[junior plover]

The soulbind makes you really durable

And fleshcraft

[cold escarp]

40% hp shield smh

not affected by dampen

[junior plover]

To the point where awc players play something like necro ww and necro ret

Just to get the soulbind

Despite the abilities being bad

[cold escarp]

pop a bear form + bm into fleshcraft and u got a 40k shield

was rewatching the AWC NA finals

all 7 games same team comps

[viscid remnant]

No balance = stale lame meta = dead game

Tru

[junior plover]

The meta is unironicaly the most diverse in the history of the game

People are wilding

Mage Ele, Godcomp, Arms Ret, WW DK, WW Mage, RMP, Jungle, Turbo, Arms Spriest

You could argue for any of those to be in the top3

Probably more

[wise valley]

Egirls on my fan list

Thats what the avg druid main wakes up too

[viscid remnant]

nah kiosk ur crazy

arms/dk** and ww/dk arent that gud

but ye idk

seems stale to me

almost every good comp you listed has either warrior/mage/holy pala

or all 3

[junior plover]

WW DK just got played in EU semis

Or finals?

Finals I think

Pretty sure it's good

[smoky sail]

Is there any patch/xpac where mage isn't godtier?

[viscid remnant]

otk played it

pretty sure

[lime light]

@smoky sail yes shadowlands

[haughty compass]

Played too many chars this season. I’m a 1 Druid man after this

[smoky sail]

El patronne pretty sure mage still godtier in SL

[lime light]

no awawy

dude

h000w do u l000se

to m@@@guuuzzz

[smoky sail]

Cuz they play with priest and They Mc dCeD mE

[junior plover]

Mage = bad

just play feral

???????????

[smoky sail]

Still can't believe almost a full season and Mc bug still a thing

[tiny tusk]

Have they even acknowledged the Mc bug

[junior plover]

No

[cold escarp]

this bug didnt exist in bfa?

[junior plover]

they /reload when it happens on AWC

lmao

they have multiple characters watching

and jump between perspectives

to reload

[candid dragon]

MC bug and you're trying to trap as a hunter.

[tiny tusk]

Jesus

[lime light]

they said a while ago

thats fixing it isnt easy

apparently

they need to changea lot of things in the core

KEKW

so its only possible with new big patch

[cold escarp]

its netcode related im sure

[misty shuttle]

folks, anyone know why I might keep getting pulled out of stealth in a BG? (no dots, not in combat, no flare)

[junior plover]

They didn't

everyone knows it isn't easy that's why people repeat it

if it was easy it'd be fixed by now

but there isn't 1 official comment on it

[lime light]

they did u ape

[junior plover]

link

or didnt happen

[lime light]

no

[junior plover]

[lime light]

one of the devs or guys that handle content creators

tweeted it

a while ago

[cold escarp]

im on phone with ion as we speak

he says

fuck you pvp players suck my dick

[junior plover]

LIES

[junior plover]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/burning-crusade-classic-beta-notes-may-4/938907/5

Pretty funny

they took Shadowlands PVP gearing

and put it in TBC classic

as if anyone even wanted it in Shadowlands in the first place

let alone TBC

[cold escarp]

thats literally how it was in tbc tho?

[junior plover]

These guys high 24/7 since home office started or smth

[junior plover]

No

[lime light]

not in s1 and s2

[junior plover]

used to be 2 pieces

now its all

[lime light]

no

[cold escarp]

its nothing like shadowlands

[lime light]

only s3 and s4

its good that u need rating

for it

[cold escarp]

shadowlands has 18 tiers of pvp gear

[junior plover]

Its like shadowlands

u get rating

[cold escarp]

tbc has 2

[junior plover]

u get stronger

[lime light]

and 2.2k gonna be super easy now

[junior plover]

u dont

[lime light]

compared to back

[junior plover]

u're disadvantaged

[cold escarp]

the difference between having shoulders and not having shoulders wont make or break a game

its not like having a FULL set 7 ilvls behind

its 1 item

[junior plover]

[lime light]

ofc

[junior plover]

Okay but I already

bought a pitchfork

?

[lime light]

and some of the pve items will be almost as good

just gonna miss a lil bit ressi

[junior plover]

Glad in tbc will be rank1 retail cutoff

makes sense

[lime light]

but big damgur classes dont care about ressi

like magus

[cold escarp]

thats how it was

[lime light]

rogus

[cold escarp]

also glad in 2s hype

[junior plover]

It was different

but this is somewhat

whats the word

faithful?

[cold escarp]

Originally, Rank 1 titles weren’t introduced until Season 2. This is a good opportunity to introduce one for the first season of Burning Crusade Classic.

[junior plover]

If tbc came out today

[cold escarp]

how will that work

[junior plover]

these would be the cutoffs

[lime light]

apeful

[junior plover]

probably

[cold escarp]

kek

[junior plover]

wdym

[cold escarp]

titles are called by season name

[junior plover]

like any other season title

[cold escarp]

first season is called Gladiator

thats it

[lime light]

no

[junior plover]

Well it's called Infernal now

[cold escarp]

s1 items are literally called Gladiator's X

[misty shuttle]

does anyone here have an issue in pvp where they randomly unstealth?

[cold escarp]

not Merciless Gladiator's X

or Wrathful Gladiator's X

etc

[junior plover]

Been happening to me vs priests since the season started

idk