pvp

[lime light]

and guardian lego for barskin/freanzy regen if u struggle and dying

🙏🏿

[arctic rivet]

leggo for feral I mean

and I just need a reminder whenever I do offspec

again I mostly play Boomie

[green valve]

Bowtie ziqo bis

[lime light]

i just told u

[junior plover]

circle

FOOL

[lime light]

cricle is good, if u wanna spam damgur

[junior plover]

Reduces duration of swarm and having 100% uptime on 2 targets is hardly realistic

so its barely better than no legendary

[lime light]

pure dmg wise its good

if u fighting something grped

[junior plover]

Yeah but if youre fighting a melee cleave cleaving u

u will need to spend globals on defending yourself

or you'll die

and if u do

your bleeds fall off

making circle literally do nothing

worse than nothing cuz it nerfs swarm

it doesnt help that your bleeds tick 33% faster if they now have 33% downtime

[lime light]

no u are wrong, circle is good for max dps

if u multibleed

stop talking

draught is better

but cricle is viable

for pure damgur double bleeders

[junior plover]

if it was good people would be using it

its good in theory

it just doesnt work

[lime light]

cassidy played it

few times

its good

[junior plover]

prove

[lime light]

i dont need to prove anything to an ape

[junior plover]

good then prove to me

[lime light]

i just said

hope merce lose

[junior plover]

Huh DH

oh ye its drainer team

ofc they play dh

Tren no hands

and memers

[lime light]

he can play warrior properly

so dont die, and do dmg

[junior plover]

one of the worst warriors in circuit

tbh

but its warrior

[lime light]

ofc

but thats still playing proprly

and if u have some game maker

like saza

still gonna win

horrible block tho

that comp they are playing

could be insane, if they had some slow

[junior plover]

I dont like the idea of pairing DH with fire

DH is giga high sustained damagur

huge pressure

play with frost maybe?

idk

arcane even

and no tools to peel the mage

[lime light]

no

its good comp overall

big burst

[junior plover]

lmao warrior jumps behind pillar

into dh

[lime light]

dh's dps kinda w/e does nothing

the problem is mage wanna kite between goes

but he dont have any slow

[junior plover]

idk maybe if you could actually spam fireball as mage

[lime light]

to help him kite

[junior plover]

to have constant burst

but yeah

dh cant help mage

he cant cast 1 fireball

[lime light]

i think that team would be better with boomkin

[junior plover]

LMAO FLYING

TALENT

[lime light]

in tournament settings ofc

[junior plover]

maybe

i think ele shaman maybe

boomie = bad

[lime light]

why

boomy would be good into this

but he dont play it

ele iam not sure

[junior plover]

boomy good in the comp

[lime light]

at least some slow for warrior

[junior plover]

just not that good overall

[rocky obsidian]

Is Solo Queue WoW PvP Compatible? | WoW Rant | Why Solo Queue Is NOT The Best Idea
The Video is best seen as a podcast and the background footage is more to give you something to watch.
I feel a lot of people are wanting and asking for Solo Queue but no one realises how the implementation seems like a nightmare.
People compare it with League , Csgo Valorant etc, but they are using the wrong examples and WoW can't be compared to these games.
The only REAL solo queue that I could see coming, is a 6V6 Solo Queue Bracket. That could be a nice addition.

Link to the Video with my arguments and the discussion around Solo Queue : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Z--8Md79Q&ab_channel=ThoGrey

[junior plover]

No advertising

$report

[last owl]

This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

[green valve]

I mean rated skirms is fine

Double dps 2v2 healers go into 3v3

Perfectly fine

[junior plover]

The argument makes no sense

if you don't like it

don't play it

??????

if someone does let them play it

make it a separate queue

[green valve]

Yea

[junior plover]

if it isn't populated enough after a few seasons just nuke it

I don't think soloq would be good at all

[green valve]

Just attach rating to the skirm q boom solo q is born

[junior plover]

but i'd like to casually soloq up to practice button clicking and shit

[green valve]

100%

[junior plover]

some people only play lfg and thats probably worse than soloq

[green valve]

Id q it all day

Yea warrior n shit would suck in it but they can just keep qing their healer dps rated 2v2

[junior plover]

Yeah they can queue 3s if they want w/e

or even put healers in 2s soloq

who cares

[green valve]

Nah legit just do it exactly like skirm qs

[lime light]

idk iam not sure what to think about it, but it could kill other brackets also

[junior plover]

idk some people only like 2s

[green valve]

Be nice to have a playlist not infected by fing condemn warriors

[junior plover]

so would kinda suck for those people who also play healers

to not have soloq

[green valve]

They would

Itd just be thrown into a 3v3

[lime light]

first of all, it should be 3vs3 only

[junior plover]

It's reasonable to be worried about that but if you really think about it

[green valve]

And if they wanna q 2s then just q regular 2s

[junior plover]

there's no way soloq kills actual queues

think about it

[lime light]

it could

[junior plover]

playing with randoms in random comps

[lime light]

and thats not only my opinion

[junior plover]

is miserable

[lime light]

idk how many pservers

did u play

but it killed 3 of them

that i played

i mean it killed

other brackets

[junior plover]

pservers are too small

to have real brackets running

not enough players to find teammates

[lime light]

if u think this way > that they were almost pure pvp

if u compare those numbers

to how little players

play pvp in retail

i think it could be the same shit

solo q can be good

but they need to make it smart

iam not even sure myself how it could be

one thing is

only 3vs3

always 1 healer in team

[junior plover]

Why not only 2v2 to protect 3v3 as a bracket

since 2v2 is casual anyway

2v2, pick if you want caster, melee or healer partner

go to town

[lime light]

no

why pick

it should be wild

3vs3

[junior plover]

cuz warrior without healer cant play

[lime light]

idk thats what i feel like, cant rly write any good arguments

why only 3vs3

[junior plover]

fair enough

[lime light]

2vs2 how u gonna make a q for it

2 x dps possible

1 healer always?

[green valve]

I mean fuck warriors

Theres nothing stopping them from qing reg 2s or 3s

[junior plover]

Well

there is

thats why they need soloq

[junior plover]

if thats ur argument then ure arguing against soloq at all

not fuck warriors

the other one

[lime light]

it all depends how blizzard would handle it

[junior plover]

I think spec based rating would be nice for soloq

since no booster issues with that

maybe role based

rather

caster/melee/healer

put hunters in one or the other idc

and I think completely random partners would make it very unfun to play tbh thats why I think 2s with some basic choice could be nice

you'd spend most games being frustrated that you lost cuz u had a much worse comp

like affli ret or smth

[lime light]

but 2s is already almost solo q

u get into lfg

and get someone and q up

[junior plover]

lfg takes 30+ min

no joke

then people leave after 1 or 2 games

just make it a queue

[lime light]

cuz sl ssn is dead

early on its fast

[junior plover]

Nah it was like mid season

as well

[lime light]

and if u are top specs

its also gonna be fast

[junior plover]

i mean yeah

but not everyone is

not a bad game from creed so far

Apparently Tren is a cracked DH

[green valve]

Lol hunted at 10%

[junior plover]

he baited like 5 cooldowns without using the hunt

throughout the game

and then they had nothin

[lime light]

idk why he plays fly

it does legit

negative dmg

and defensive wise

i dont think so its super good vs that

[junior plover]

idk maybe he'd be the target

if he wasnt running it

so he's just trading a talent slot for that

[green valve]

Yea i dk what is he running mortal rush imprison fly?

[junior plover]

DH sustained damage cracked

1.6M

warrior 1M

told u

[lime light]

he was mortal rush

first game

with small incap

[weak hinge]

@green valve https://awc.gcd.tv/#

[junior plover]

just pick turbo and u win every time

into that comp

or even ret arms

idk why theyre playing that spriest lmao

giving dh a target

[green valve]

Cuz its vilaye

[junior plover]

bench him

[green valve]

But yea ret warrior prob just rolls it

[junior plover]

I mean

they blinded it

they won

so I get it

but yeah if they locked it 3rd time into that matchup they'd be cracked

[green valve]

Youre right tho they coupd just play turbo baka plays enh too

And just train spriesr

[junior plover]

oh no i meant turbo into dh

[green valve]

Ohhh true

[junior plover]

but yeah they could

[cold escarp]

what did i miss

did whaaz lose?

[junior plover]

idk i just tuned in

for creed

they played dh

[cold escarp]

ziqo's mic holy shit

cant blizzard hook him up

my ears

[green valve]

Yea skill capped 3-0 method

[cold escarp]

always said whaz is washed

he dont play main ever anymore

only alts

[lime light]

ye what happend with big z mic

[green valve]

Ziqo plz

[cold escarp]

today is EU only?

[junior plover]

NA AWC got canceled

cuz theyre all bad

[stray sigil]

people actually watch this shit

lol

[junior plover]

Lmao that combustion was like

20s cooldown

[stray sigil]

how do u watch these games

unironically

[junior plover]

idk i have it on other screen glance over when game is bout to end

or when kitty is on screen

[weak hinge]

? what are u talking about

why not watch it

[junior plover]

argument is

awc boring

[stray sigil]

40% damp games every game lol

sp war

literally the most boring comp to watch ever

mage ele

LUL

[junior plover]

they played DH Mage game 1/2

and baited me into staying

[weak hinge]

only thing that might make me turn off the stream is ziqo mic

[stray sigil]

what about eiya commentary

that also makes me turn it off everytime

[weak hinge]

does eiya cast?

[stray sigil]

nop but she just rambles

saying the same thing every minute

[weak hinge]

idk she's just the host who cares

[stray sigil]

i do

we used to have rich

why doesnt the other eu dude host anyways

whats his name again

healingstat

[tardy hare]

healingstat da best

[junior plover]

Whaaz on monk

[tardy hare]

yoinked healingstat steam id

gg

[stray sigil]

make him pay big $

genius

[junior plover]

[lime light]

OwO

[tardy hare]

had this name for years

dont think healingstat cares

:<

[livid wasp]

how come lunar inspiration is meta now? suddenly see people using it

[stray sigil]

with necro

and draught

moonfire does big dam

[livid wasp]

okay so its more like a rot build?

when you go necro and that

[candid dragon]

Ye.

[livid wasp]

intredasting

[junior plover]

LMAO HEALINGSTAT ON CAST

u guys

summoned him

?????????

@stray sigil

[stray sigil]

oh well they got rid of supa

still a win in my books

[cold escarp]

ziqo still on

:(

[stray sigil]

ziqo is goated lol

rest of them are washed up old men

[cold escarp]

ziqo got a $5 lidl mic

gives me headache to listen

[velvet schooner]

was anyone able to test it?

idk why the book gives me all memories except nf lol

[stray sigil]

i dont think its on ptr yet

[junior plover]

its not on ptr

MW Fire DH

lmao

in a semi final

they dont care

[green valve]

think feral rets gonna be strong in 9.1?

[cold escarp]

i dont get it why are they playing again

[junior plover]

I think so too

[junior plover]

pretty sure everything but final is today

[green valve]

maybe like feral ret rsham

[junior plover]

feral ret priest

for sure

if priest is good still anyway

but it should be

[cold escarp]

winner bracket semi final now?

[green valve]

lol just made my cinders leggo on lock, good bye affi you were loved rip sl s1- sl s1

[cold escarp]

watch aff become good with the drain soul change

[green valve]

deadass they said they were getting 40-50k shadow bolts on ptr

whole aff comunity is asking for stronger dots less burst

blizz "we hear you, we disagree, heres a one shot shadowbolt build"

[cold escarp]

wtf just happened

why did they troll pick in a semi finals

[junior plover]

yes this is winner semis

[junior plover]

its creed

youre talking about it

thats their goal

[cold escarp]

bro the fuck is this

rigged

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

I'm just happy

Healingstat the BOY

Is IN

[vague mural]

nerf mistweaver, it made it to awc semi

OP

[cold escarp]

they just wanted to play against whaaz

its all part of the plan

200 iq plan in the making

[junior plover]

WHAAZ ROGUE

LES GOO

[cold escarp]

priest mana lol

[junior plover]

Whaz = god

[cold escarp]

i hate rmp so goddamn much

run run run

win

isnt monk into turbo suicide

[junior plover]

Lmao no combustion

just lasso

and whazz dies

?????????

Thats Shadowlands s1 for ya

[viscid remnant]

No broken comp no win

Rmp is so cringe

Perma resetting because shield conduit

Fun gaminh

[junior plover]

I dont know why people are so upset about the resets

chase em down

punish the mage

RMP is embodiment of skill unironically i cant be mad when I lose to rmp

also the conduit is dead on ptr

[green valve]

Sin rmp isnt that skillfull but i hear ya

[clear pulsar]

Punish the mage xd

[viscid remnant]

Its extremely obnoxious to play against

[junior plover]

Not for feral

EZ

[viscid remnant]

Ye not for feral sure because mage cant spam poly you and root u

[stray sigil]

?

[viscid remnant]

Ye thats a bad take

[stray sigil]

thats a dogshit take

[viscid remnant]

They can literally reset so easily

With mage having triune alter night fae form and rogue with shield conduit

[stray sigil]

and alter

[junior plover]

all of my takes are good

it is known

just stun on alter

[viscid remnant]

Ye i said alter

[junior plover]

no u didnt

[lime light]

David

bravo

https://tenor.com/view/applause-kids-funny-yes-gif-13168330

[junior plover]

ok i read after

[viscid remnant]

Ty el batron

[junior plover]

Reason why I can't be mad vs rmp

is cuz they cant just faceroll the keyboard

and win

like 95% of comps in the game

[viscid remnant]

Eh i mean

[junior plover]

all the wins come from actual brain and skill

[viscid remnant]

Mage need da poly bound

[stray sigil]

? ?? ? ?

[junior plover]

not much brain

but brain

[stray sigil]

bro

stop

lol

[junior plover]

???

Bro

you live in a 3k world

where there's no such thing as faceroll

you have no clue how it is at lower ratings lmao

people hit glad not knowing how to cross cc

[viscid remnant]

I mean

[junior plover]

running turbo or ret

[stray sigil]

rmp is def a faceroll comp now

[viscid remnant]

Ye

[stray sigil]

this isnt mop anymore

[junior plover]

Maybe for 3k rating standards

but not for most people??

like

compare it to jungle

or turbo

or ret arms

or splay

I'm not saying it's necessarily difficult

[viscid remnant]

Theyre all the same to me

[junior plover]

just that it requires actual thinking

[stray sigil]

there is no hard comp anymore

[junior plover]

and not facerolling the pve rotation

[viscid remnant]

Ret arms stun 2 targets

[stray sigil]

i mean fire is quite literally

[viscid remnant]

Rmp poly and stun

[stray sigil]

doing pve all game

to reset combust

[viscid remnant]

Not much differnce

Also ye fire is a baby spec

[junior plover]

Ye idk fire not much brain

[stray sigil]

u dont even need cc to kill shit honestly with ccombust

[viscid remnant]

I wanna see mages play arcane 1 school

[stray sigil]

i wanna see rmp gutted

but thats just me

[junior plover]

it is

[viscid remnant]

Ye

[junior plover]

on ptr

both fire and rogue

[viscid remnant]

Been too good for too long

[junior plover]

the reset playstyle anyway

[stray sigil]

assa got massive buffs

0 chance

[junior plover]

yeah but no resets

[stray sigil]

that rmp is not good

[viscid remnant]

Now they play assa frost

[stray sigil]

doesnt matter does same thing lol

u dont need sub for rmp to be good

hello bfa

LOL

[junior plover]

idk its like BM jungle vs MM/survi jungle

different comp

similar but different

[viscid remnant]

Imagine thinking rmp will be bad when assa gets a broken sharpen effect

Looool

[junior plover]

not saying it'll be better to play vs

just that 9.0 rmp is ded

[viscid remnant]

Ye but

[stray sigil]

9.1 will be better lol

[viscid remnant]

Cuz its viable every season

Boring

[stray sigil]

just play assa rmd

doesnt matter that rog lost control playing assa over sub

[junior plover]

rmp will be shit because feral will be in every comp

it is known

[stray sigil]

cuz u have poly and clones anyways lul

[viscid remnant]

Truuu

[lime light]

rogue mage most no skill comp since 5.4.8

[junior plover]

BM jungle gonna take over game

imagine playing rmp into that

[lime light]

??

u can easly

kill bm

[stray sigil]

kill hunter

LOL

? ? ? ?

dude

[junior plover]

lmao i forgot its not fire

naymore

[lime light]

priest covers feral

[junior plover]

i was thinking roar of sac

[stray sigil]

fire or not fire

[lime light]

after cheap shot from rogue

[stray sigil]

doesnt ven matter

even rn

[lime light]

and u do a normal go

[stray sigil]

rmp literally forces

every hunter cd in opener

atm

[lime light]

😄

😄

D:

[junior plover]

wasnt jungle's best matchup rmp all season long???

asking

dont know

[clear pulsar]

Fuji is just mad cuz his hunter dont love him no more

He found better and cooler pets to play with

[junior plover]

[lime light]

jungle was good into rm cuz u could one deag rogue at some point

[stray sigil]

lol they played with dallas and tanked even more

[clear pulsar]

Also

[stray sigil]

couldnt be me

[lime light]

and train him till they lose

[clear pulsar]

Nice name @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

u like it

i like it

[junior plover]

i like the pic

sexy

[clear pulsar]

Little bit funny

[stray sigil]

i have gotten like 10 people sayign thety wanna join guild

[clear pulsar]

I think I'll go horde soon

[stray sigil]

maybe u open it up to the plebs

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

why lol

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

this man says hes gonna do keys with me

[clear pulsar]

Alli pve people dont pve

[stray sigil]

and then peaces the fuck out

of alliance

[lime light]

face got a new "blizzard shop" daddy?

like FUji

[stray sigil]

fucking brazilians

tian im ur daddy

[junior plover]

racism

[stray sigil]

nop

[junior plover]

calling thyme

cya

[stray sigil]

$report

[last owl]

This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

[clear pulsar]

Since they increased token price

Faction change only costs 2 tokens now

[junior plover]

they did what

[clear pulsar]

Instead of 3

For brazil @junior plover

I mean sub price

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

just pay with cash

idiot

[clear pulsar]

So buying token with gold = more money in bnet

[junior plover]

this

just have money

?????

[lime light]

buy gold on allegro

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

or this

[stray sigil]

change countries

go in colombia

[clear pulsar]

Venmo me some money

[stray sigil]

dig some holes around the country

[clear pulsar]

I'll play EU with you @junior plover

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[stray sigil]

find the money

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

hidden

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

Listen

to prove youre a real friend

[stray sigil]

see tian knows

[junior plover]

we gotta queue until im glad

then i can give u friend money

I think thats fair

[stray sigil]

listen face

has sat 2.1

since 2nd week of the season

its doomed for u

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

Cuz fuji said we'd queue double feral

And push hero

Then ghosted

Smh

[junior plover]

roll hunter on eu

we goin to the moon

creed vs method game5 starting

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sweat-monkas-monka-eyes-gif-10994127

[clear pulsar]

Creed kinda trolling with all these diff comps all the time

[junior plover]

I mean they do it for clout Im sure

probably banking on that popularity to transfer into streaming careers

LOL THAT RING OF PEACE

WHAT THE

Whaazz is nasty

[viscid remnant]

Feed

[clear pulsar]

Tren was supposed to save us from the warriors

Not join them

[junior plover]

Tren on warrior is just sad

[clear pulsar]

They woulda won if they played dh mage

[junior plover]

Blind turbo is just

questionable

Found warrior counter

https://www.wowhead.com/news/sorrowbane-item-level-180-treasure-weapon-from-maldraxxus-quest-up-for-na-and-eu-319473

"It also has an interesting equip: Auto attacks have a chance to instantly execute lesser creatures below 20% health."

[clear pulsar]

[lime light]

is it over yet

[junior plover]

Last series on the way

Method vs Skillcapped rematch

Lmao chas trinketed to stop a drink

and insta lost

[clear pulsar]

Even whaazz is a pikaboo fanboy

Copying his comp and all

[junior plover]

[wicked dawn]

Question as a relatively inexperienced feral. In twos against arms/healer, who should i be tunneling?

im necro btw

[junior plover]

What

the

fuck

just happened

??????

[junior plover]

I didnt play much necro in 2s but I played a bunch of kyrian and nf and generally hitting the healer is hopeless

your partner is generally a priest and the warrior can berserker every other fear

and just deny your goes with intervene

[junior plover]

Bench whaz win game

lmao can you imagine unironically making up numbers like these

[clear pulsar]

Whaazz is washed

[junior plover]

24% games against r1 players

2

4

%

2 rewards 300 points on /r/worldofpvp

are u serious

[green valve]

Lmao

Sick stats bro

Totally not made up

[weak hinge]

~100 games against R1 players - sick. i think i didnt see that much the entire expansions

[junior plover]

Around 2k in 2s really is mostly glads

But I think in my 1k games played at 2.1k+

I played like

5 rank1 players

[weak hinge]

maybe he was like "DUDE HE'S 2.7k XP THATS LIKE RANK1... RIGHT?!"

[green valve]

Its fine were making up random %s now

[junior plover]

[green valve]

So those 5 are exactly 43% of games

[junior plover]

89% of my games are against people 2.8k or higher and the other 27% are against people at least 2.6k rated

[green valve]

But yea even without made up stats ladder in general is a cesspool atm

At least for like 220 alts

[junior plover]

1800+ in 3s is 50% glads

but unironically this time

season cant end soon enough

[green valve]

Yea

[misty shuttle]

won't it just be the same next season after a few weeks?

[junior plover]

Idk depends on how many people are playing

[weak hinge]

sure it will but thats why seasons are supposed to last a few months

with only a few weeks of shit state of ladder

[junior plover]

Issue right now is that so many casual players quit

that its mostly the hardcore players playing

[weak hinge]

but its shit for over 2 months now

[junior plover]

and since theyve already peaked on their main

theyre rolling alts

[green valve]

More ppl play at the beginings so should be more active at least a few months

I wonder if youll be able to upgrade s1 gear in s2

[weak hinge]

nope

[junior plover]

0 chance of that

[gloomy token]

Next season likely won't have as many pve andys coming across tho bc they changed the way conquest gear works didn't they

[junior plover]

But 226 gear is higher than base conquest ilvl I think

[green valve]

Then they need to uncap renown for honor upgrades

[junior plover]

for next season

[green valve]

Still think its absurd s1 226 gear will be the best available pvp gear for months

[junior plover]

wdym months

[misty shuttle]

I preferred it when a solo player who devoted enough casual time to pvp could get nearly top gear

[green valve]

Like literally best available pvp gear for s2 will be unobtainable s1 gear

[junior plover]

what

no

lol

[weak hinge]

just get a weapon in your great vault week 1 - ez.

[green valve]

Max honor upgrade is tied to renown gating

[junior plover]

???

But conquest

gear

??????????

[green valve]

You get 1-2 conq a week at most

[junior plover]

Oh thats what u mean

[green valve]

While saving for weapon

[junior plover]

yeah thats pretty cracked

God damn method

crazy win

[green valve]

Like oh you only hit 1600 s1

[junior plover]

Yeah if you weren't 2100 in s1

you will NEVER recover

[clear pulsar]

I am fully on board with the reverse sweep

[junior plover]

until shadowlands is over it seems

[clear pulsar]

[green valve]

Get shit on till week 10 when renown unlocks

[misty shuttle]

yeah I only just started playing my druid one or two weeks ago

gg...

[clear pulsar]

You still have like

3 months

[junior plover]

Unless you decide to bite the bullet and spam m+ for a few weeks

[clear pulsar]

Til next patch

The system does suck

But

[junior plover]

which is probably the best option

[clear pulsar]

We've lived with this for years

[green valve]

All they have to do is remove the timegate renown for honor gear

[junior plover]

in reality I'll be spamming m+ first weeks of season to get best gear and smack people

[green valve]

No point now that its nerfed in pve

[misty shuttle]

so is it better to gear now or just wait for next season and start gearing up then

[junior plover]

so 226 gear is irrelevant

It's definitely better to start now

you'll have an advantage when the season begins

however

if you just spam m+ when s2 starts you can outgear s1 pvp gear

rather quickly

[misty shuttle]

currently rated 700 in rated BGs and 200 ilvl...

[green valve]

True

[junior plover]

But that requires pve

not for everyone

[green valve]

M+ always the answer early season lol

[misty shuttle]

and I don't have any pvp friends or groups, so it's all pugging

[green valve]

Its just a pain in the ass for alts

Side note got my hunter to 49 doing some pvp with covenant in the 40-49 bracket

Hillariously dumb

[junior plover]

How do you do that

start sl at 48?

[green valve]

You can start sl at 48

[junior plover]

yeah I see

[green valve]

Which i just found out

[junior plover]

I had a few druids convoke me in the 40-49 bracket

but I wouldnt recommend starting at 48 if u wanna do the fate thing

it's miserable

[green valve]

Yea pretty entertaining tbh

[junior plover]

the xp scales weirdly and you have to do a looooot more world quests and shit

it feels really slow

[green valve]

Also bm is literally 4 buttons but also stupidly fun to play and i have no idea why

[junior plover]

ehh maybe i'll finish my hunter now that bm is a thing

thought of playing MM makes me puke

survi is budget feral

[green valve]

I still havent figured out why dudes are dieing as bm but tgey get roasted

So cool?

[junior plover]

Double caster with hpals is so dumb to watch lmao

healers dropping combat every 10s to drink

and casters just tickling each other until combustion is up

[misty shuttle]

the fact that you can dispel, purge, spellsteal etc combustion is not a good mechanic imo

[junior plover]

It would be alright if it wasn't random what you dispel

how it used to work

I don't like the idea of randomness behind such a huge cooldown

Klepto on Combust is a nice mechanic I think tho

[misty shuttle]

I just find it annoying

[junior plover]

I like the idea that mages cant just press combust on cooldown in caster cleave mirrors

and have to be careful with how they use it and klepto

[misty shuttle]

only against certain classes though

[junior plover]

Against mage specifically

but yeah

[misty shuttle]

it just means that mages suck vs some and not others

[junior plover]

That's not a bad thing

especially since that class they suck against

is themselves

literally cant be bad against your own spec

so its fair

[misty shuttle]

enhance shamans

oof

[green valve]

Probably gonna see less of em in 9.1

Assume frost reigns as king

[junior plover]

Klepto is gone in 9.1 anyway

[green valve]

Which im fine with since cauterize is lame

[junior plover]

fire even more so

[misty shuttle]

so long, my main o/

[green valve]

Lol frost is gonna pump

[misty shuttle]

I refuse to abandon the furries

and sadly they made night fae absolute pants for frost

[green valve]

True

[misty shuttle]

despite the fact that the title is winter's envoy and it's all perfectly themed for frost

[green valve]

Fire will still be good tho just not best caster in every situation good

[junior plover]

Nah I dont think fire will be good

tbh

theyre taking off like 15% damage off them

and klepto

[clear pulsar]

And then they'll get overbuffed in 9.1.5

[green valve]

I dk

Theyll still be the m+ flamestrike kings

So probably never a reason to overbuff them at least for pve

[haughty nova]

More like 4 or 5%

[tepid spoke]

regarding grounding totem

how come it eats a whole convoke?

isnt it just 1 spell grounded?

[clear pulsar]

No

It takes one hit to kill

But it'll redirect spells for its entire duration

If you don't kill it

[wise valley]

@clear pulsar bro

U real inspiration tho

Fr

Yall the gang ily

[clear pulsar]

You drunk bro?

[wise valley]

Yeah

But its genuine

My real Gs

[dreamy pond]

Y’all ready for feral to smack next season?

[clear pulsar]

Ready for feral to be smacked with a nerf

[stray sigil]

lol get fukd

[dreamy pond]

Better not be, that is my only reason to level my druid, as I prefer against casters and don’t have fun on warrior

At least if all else fails resto druid is an option

[green valve]

Lmfao

Jah got insta banned again

Wtf let him do his thing at least hes playing video games

Half of just talking is girls in bikinis riding infallible horses in a hot tub

And this dude cant even stream wow

Smh

[stray sigil]

he could also not be a psycopath

and nothing would ever have happened

[green valve]

Trueeee

[blissful belfry]

I've been playin shadowplay for the past month. grinded to 2k for fun. My warlock decided to buy a 2.1k boost for 1.5M gold. after 5 hours of carry, he succeeded to get to 1989 rating and call it off.

5 hours, 1.5M, -11 rating

[stray sigil]

theres no way he actually paid if he didnt get therating no ?

or was it a hourly boost

cuz normally they just give the gold back

[blissful belfry]

Idk, he didnt tell me which company or what were the terms, he jsut said he paid 1.5m, i watched his stream seein him win and lose and lose and win and lose

after 5h he just called it

[stray sigil]

ive done undoable boosts and the buy gets money back usual;ly

[blissful belfry]

he said pheonix

[stray sigil]

hmm not sure about phoenix but i would assume they do?

should speak with the advertiser

[blissful belfry]

they said they'll get him a new group

hehehe

[stray sigil]

or that ya

[blissful belfry]

his healer carryin wasnt too good from what i saw tho

looka dat

https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelySmoothAnteaterTwitchRaid-yWaC1tVyoQJPtnIj

didnt even gfade

although. fuck ele shammy

[stray sigil]

does look like he could react

idk

[blissful belfry]

yeah, there was margin to react on that. still a big burst

But thats overall pretty weird from my point of view. imagine gettin 2k by yourself and payin to tank rating

[viscid remnant]

Cringe

[noble onyx]

any ferals in here?

[surreal heron]

none

[noble onyx]

tell me if u can relate

XD

[stray sigil]

@vestal citrus they just beat c9s turbo lol

i think with an actual good priest they would win most games

[rigid linden]

@vestal citrus who

Wth

Lmfao

King shit

[stray sigil]

lmfao

they are farming c9

LMFAO

[rigid linden]

how many fotm ferals next patch ya reckon bois

maybe el formo might have to teach these youngers a thing or two

[junior plover]

Not many I reckon

Until jungle is literally the best comp in the game

[viscid remnant]

[junior plover]

Feral won't be fotm

[clear pulsar]

YEah I doubt feral is fotm

Assa will be fotm

[junior plover]

It isn't common knowledge but playing Feral requires an IQ of at least 135 and precision of a professional archer

So it can't be fotm

Do it as feral then try some boomy

[lime light]

If u think about it, u always have a mortal from Hunter anyway

The slow gonna be juice

And the ms for cleaving only

[junior plover]

Yeah but it's gonna be FMP

Rolling the ladder

Or ret feral

[lime light]

Without me

[viscid remnant]

Ret feral will be nasty

[junior plover]

Ret feral might just be broken

[tardy hare]

Welp that's a free glad

[viscid remnant]

Bubblebasics 1v9

[tardy hare]

Gg

[lime light]

Thanks David

[junior plover]

who

[forest kite]

If a tank is base sitting. Do they have anyway to combat druids if they attempt to cap? They can usually root the tank and then stun then and if the tank trinkets they can run away for a second and get cool down back and then restun them again knowing they don’t have trinket. How does a tank stop this if you just reroot them again?

[lime light]

i dont understand

stun is 4 sec

base cap is 6 sec

root is 8 second but u can use range abilites and taunt

so whats the point of rooting

rerooting

[forest kite]

As a tank I was being rooted, then I would dispel root and would get stunned. They would try to cap, then I would have to trinket. Stopped cap and fought. Druid ran behind house and healed. Came back and I was stunned again and it was an easy cap for them. I was not unstunned until 1 second after cap happened

[clear pulsar]

You dont have to trinket any druid stun

Cap is 6s, bash and rake are 4s, maim is 5s

You just spam moonfire as the stun ends

[forest kite]

Another pvp channel said cap is 5 seconds

[clear pulsar]

Also you may be thinking of any CC as stun

Hibernate for instance lasts long enough to cap on you

It's not a stun

[forest kite]

Ok wrong word then

[clear pulsar]

There are a few different 'types' of CC

If they're casting hibernate on you, you shift out of bear form

[forest kite]

So only Druid tanks can stop it?

[clear pulsar]

You should save trinket for Cyclone if you get Cycloned close to the flag, that's the only way you can't spin

[plain falcon]

Also can easly shapeshift outta roots anyway

[clear pulsar]

Hibernate can only be cast on beasts

So shamans in wolf or druids in shapeshift forms

[forest kite]

What if it’s a vdh tank?

[clear pulsar]

Your questioning seems all a bit vague

Like

You should get to know what spells classes have

[forest kite]

Trying to, that’s why I’m asking

[clear pulsar]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking

The only CC that a druid can use to cap on anyone completely alone is Cyclone

[forest kite]

Ok

[plain falcon]

There is also Mighty Bash if you have the talent

But it's only for 4 sec

[clear pulsar]

[forest kite]

So basically if a Druid comes 1v1 with a tank base sitting. It’s gonna be tough for that tank to keep them from capping

[clear pulsar]

Metaphors a money ho

Unforch

No

A vdh should really never get capped on by a solo druid

[forest kite]

They have to interrupt the cyclone right?

[clear pulsar]

Or just not be in range of it

And with sigils having a delay

[forest kite]

Couldn’t them stun them and then move close and cast cyclone?

[clear pulsar]

That can throw off the cyclone timing

Then don't be in range

For them to clone you from flag

[forest kite]

Or root them?

[clear pulsar]

Not if the dh wasn't within cyclone-from-flag range to begin with

[forest kite]

Yeah I’m being told a few different things by discord’s but your stuff sounds all correct

[lime light]

how can u compare my pvp channel

to any other channel

please

[surreal heron]

[lime light]

[forest kite]

Haha sorry

Frustrating. Newish player and hit 1800 and there is just so much shit I need to know and I’m so late to the game

[obtuse ice]

You'll eventually make it with time 👍

[forest kite]

Or just swap my tanks to feral or boomie and make it some other tanks problem

Haha but thank you all for the help

[lime light]

boomkin or feral shouldnt be a problem for a tank at all

even for a new player

u should struggle with rogue and a hunter

[viscid remnant]

🅱️atron

[forest kite]

Have a good handle on rogues. Hunters are a pain but no one usually sends a Hunter to take a base solo in my brackets

[viscid remnant]

[junior plover]

[foggy ravine]

You play vengeance DH? Run reverse magic if you get root beamed other than that just spin from over 25 yards away and a Druid literally can’t cap on you because they can’t clone you while they are on flag to cap it

[cold escarp]

who won last night?

i cant find any info on AWC

[junior plover]

Skillcapped

4-2

Discussion is on front page of /r/worldofpvp too

U didnt try

liar

[cold escarp]

i hate that subreddit

its just complains from ppl who cant hit 1400

[junior plover]

Whats more important than people trying to hit 1400

[cold escarp]

TRUE

[junior plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_XYhw7aSA

good video

thanks for watching

[cold escarp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/n2l1ao/live_arena_world_championship_shadowlands_eu/

11 comments

absolute state of wow esports

[junior plover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/n2vgwj/post_match_thread_grand_finals_awc_shadowlands_eu/

7 more here

dont undersell it