which lego do I craft for feral pvp if I'm not necro? is it symmetry still?
#pvp
fleet panther
junior plover
Draught
fleet panther
which one is draught again?
wise valley
Isn't heart attack left chest
Finna die here bois
On God if I pass over in an urgent care ima haunt the fuck outta somebody
junior plover
Finna die here bois
inb4 its just heartburn
junior plover
which one is draught again?
fleet panther
ty
wise valley
Nah I've had heartburn b4
Waiting on x-rays rn
I've been hitting the gym 3 weeks and new meds so never 2 careful with my pristine physical shell
Real question tho why does nobody use extra energy leggo
Lotta leggos seem nice for feral tbh
junior plover
Waiting on x-rays rn
junior plover
Real question tho why does nobody use extra energy leggo
@stray sigil did for a while
and now the discussion on alt legendaries is ded cuz necro is king
kindred monolith
I’m confused, is infected wounds becoming a pvp talent? Isn’t it baseline on rake right now? I’m not upset having to use an honor talent to get a mortal wounds. But i can’t find any real answers. But I’ll fully admit, don’t really know where to find the answer
Nvm i literally just found my answer lol
junior plover
I believe the pvp talent just improves it?
kindred monolith
Oh okay, so i would take wicked claws and it ADDS a mortal wounds effect to infected wounds
kindred monolith
Right
Is necro boomy gonna be viable at all? I feel with circle, you can use it for feral,boomy or Resto
However i know draught will always be king for feral
junior plover
Hit the gym too hard
Shouldve stayed here with us and done some good old gamin
fleet panther
Kiosk, i remember you told me draught for feral pvp...just for clarification...I'd still use draught still even if i'm NF, yes?
fleet panther
nah, i'm NF. ah ok cool
lime light
Rats ok
polar marsh
New to necro feral. Should I be taking savage roar as well for the dots?
haughty compass
If you swap covenants, do you get the anima world quest bonus from getting rank 2 for each thing?
rustic igloo
I know a lot of the high level boomies got their guy high early in season and have let them sit. Feel like the entire pvp world has adapted to “kick convoke immediately” which completely wastes our covenant ability. Is everyone going to shift off NF for season 2?
Or just swap to feral and bail on boomy
tardy hare
It been like that since the start tho
junior plover
It been like that since the start tho
No I agree the first 2 months convoke has been a lot more successful for feral too
But I think with the nerf to BOAT convoke is likely dead
unless the new legendary with niya has anything to say about it
both feral and balance
rustic igloo
That’s what I am thinking as well...
rustic igloo
Interesting
haughty compass
Yea we still won lol
tardy hare
Idk only apes didnt counter convoke
rustic igloo
So kyrian should be the play moving forward
haughty compass
I still play convoke moonkin
junior plover
Idk only apes didnt counter convoke
Got me to 2.2k early season lmao
haughty compass
Just gotta use it at the right times and not rely on it as a win condition
junior plover
I was so absurdly terrible at the game
I'm much much better now
and yet I barely moved rating
convoke was just really free
for feral at least
haughty compass
Honestly, really like pulsar atm
tardy hare
Idk as feral you could never get convokes off without cc anyway
Which is still the same
tardy hare
Idk
junior plover
people were trinketing a fart
junior plover
Idk all I'll say is
haughty compass
Night fae moonkin aff holy priest feels good at times and terrible in others
junior plover
get this:
this is my first season so cut me some slack
up until like 2.2k
we didnt have goes
outside of convoke
in 2s
we just didnt
tardy hare
Aye
tardy hare
2s early season was filled with shitters
junior plover
we got top .5% of ladder
now I'd hope I'm much better
still basically the same %
cuz it was that free
that you could have not a single go all game long
and still win both trinkets
lmao
junior plover
tardy hare
People are hella ook ook
Besides
I dont feel like feral convoke is actually that scary atm anyway
With current meta
junior plover
It doesnt touch plate
it doesnt touch bm
its not needed for rogue mage
so why run it
tardy hare
Only time they actually die to feral convoke is if theyre across the map behind a pillar in a full maim
Without trinket
junior plover
Pretty much yeah
Idk what changed technically damage scales faster than ehp
I guess people stopped wearing pve gear with no vers
tardy hare
Dont think that was ever really the case tbh
junior plover
Idk early season before conquest cap was high enough
people were running around in m+ gear
Oh yeah I also took conflux off my conduits a while ago I guess
I'd assume most people did
blissful belfry
Well, early season you could blow on people to make them fall over. The damage was monstrous vs everyone had basically no vers and low HP
- there was a lot of pve players flooding the ladder for gear
which inflated the ratings
Now, everyone has 25% + vers, 40k hp. And most pve players left pvp ladder. No new noobs to give away rating points
junior plover
Yeah that'd explain why rating started deflating at some point
atomic galleon
Hey guys! im testing out venthyr boomy, and right now the venthyr conduit Endless thirst is probably not even implemented in code yet.. I've listed out the details in this forum post and would like blizz to notice this so the issue can get resolved quickly. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bug-endless-thirst-conduit-implementation-may-be-missing/950072
please take a look at it, and help a brother out
the build itself for playing venthy boomy is insane. if you're interested you can check it out over on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBZSE3mOHX0
blissful belfry
The cringe part is the math
green valve
Then i boost with tf le trink
And refresh rip with sabertooth
Does it boost the entire rip
Or do i have to reapply a boosted rip
cold escarp
the build itself for playing venthy boomy is insane. if you're interested you ca...
bruh
this is some bait shit
dont fall for it
lime light
Apes
junior plover
Or do i have to reapply a boosted rip
reapply
Oh sorry
If the original rip was snapshotted
You can extend it with sabertooth yes
But sabertooth won't make non snapshot bleeds snapshotted if that was what you were asking about
green valve
Yea the second one so reapply the rip gotcha
Like old affi dots
So like when do i trink n lone empower in the opener
Been doing rake thrash 5 combo rip trink le feral frenzy bite
But then my bleeds arent boosted
Day 3 of feral tho quite enjoying it so far tbh, id try necro but dont wanna gimp when i go boomie
junior plover
Don't worry about snapshoting bleeds if you're not necro
they generally don't do shit
thrash is probably never worth pressing other than to get people out of stealth
even with TfB
if it is, it's barely worth it
I would never 5cp rip during your go
either do rake -> 1cp rip -> ff -> bite or dont bother riping at all
green valve
Aight cool
junior plover
you should be pressing rip only if you're sure it wont make your fero wound drop and youre not looking to go very soon
green valve
So less dots more bites
forest kite
I've seen some boomies going necrolord is there anyone streaming necro boomie?
blissful belfry
where have you seen that might i ask?
forest kite
checkpvp na
blissful belfry
On the day of reset where resto druid go do the content as boomy and are still necrolord?
doesnt mean boomy are necro
just means that resto druid logged as boomy to do world content / torghast
blissful belfry
link me that
forest kite
green valve
I played a couple necro boomies the other day in 3s, nothing special just like 2100-2200 mmr
It was a bunch of dmg but like not threatening dmg if tgat makes sense?
I was also playing ret war rsham so was fairly easy to heal through
cold escarp
yeah idk it has no punch
afflocks are weak but at least they have malefic rapture
and AU
junior plover
theres a few necro boomies yes
cold escarp
UA
junior plover
not many
cold escarp
it probably works with spriest or afflock
but i dont see how boomy + spriest or boomy + afflock is ever better than spriest + afflock
mind games + UA > anything necro boomy can offer
haughty compass
Played a moonkin lock mirror in 3s against a necro moonkin
He did a lot of dmg but they couldn’t kill. I’m convoke
haughty compass
I also played against a Venthyr moonkin / enhance in 3s
And he pumped, but again... couldn’t land a kill lol
green valve
Yea pmuch
cold escarp
boomy has no pressure outside of kyrian 1 min thing or convoke
dots just pad the meters but they dont pressure enough to kill
but thats how it should be
we're not dot class
blissful belfry
boomy damage is just so easy to heal. I dont know if its cuz im a main boomy and i understand their damage patterns more than any other class, but i just cant see a boomy kill anyone if im not cc'ed
haughty nova
I'm looking for a melee alt that shits on bm in 2s. How does feral fares?
cold escarp
u burst then u live until u can burst again
blissful belfry
Speaking of bm. How fucking trash is this goddamn hunter's mark magic debuff thing man. that goddamn cancerous thing pisses me off. my lock tries to purge the fucking trap with his imp and 50% of the time it just fizzles the fucking mark
cold escarp
idk about ferals but condemn arms is p gud against bm unless the bm plays with resto druid
if its rdruid bm then just leave game
blissful belfry
hehehehehe
haughty nova
I'm 2.1k mmr 2k cr on my mage. Basically being gatekept by bm/healers
Essentially half my games
I'm so over this class
Spec I mean
blissful belfry
their fucking feign death man
cold escarp
yeah mage always been bad vs hunters
blissful belfry
i play with an aff lock most of the time
cold escarp
and this season even more
haughty nova
I'm thinking of ww so I can just murder their pets and make their lives miserable
But feral looks way more fun
haughty nova
Hmm.. True!
cold escarp
DHs farm BMs in 2s
blissful belfry
I have see banwell play against a bm, he just focused his pet and killed it, and stopped him from ever resummoning it. RoP in the turtle. cuts and shits on the casts
bm just defenseless
(banwell is a ww)
haughty nova
Yeah I was watching him the other day
blissful belfry
the rop to stop turtle pet rez is massive
cold escarp
damn thats actually 200 iq play
haughty compass
Priest moonkin not bad against bm maybe?
blissful belfry
holy-boomy you kill healer right?
cold escarp
i won BMs at 2.4 with priest moonkin by ignoring the BM
and just doing stun beam every min
blissful belfry
ya sounds bout right
haughty compass
Yea
cold escarp
into mind games
haughty compass
Unless convoke randomly kills the main pet lol
cold escarp
eh cant rely on convoke
haughty nova
I find ret so boring though
cold escarp
shouldnt the hunt kite the ret easily?
green valve
Yea but the only meaningfull dmg i have is my burst window
haughty nova
But I guess I should choose the easier class if I want to be competitive on an alt
blissful belfry
i did a 16k crit on my 200 ilvl ret alt last time i queued. i was like. wat
das on 200 ilvl
green valve
Yea dmg is absurd tbh
cold escarp
your main is mage?
haughty nova
Mine is yeah
blissful belfry
im juss teasin
cold escarp
@junior plover
haughty nova
Offensive to say the least
haughty nova
I saw a video from snupy shitting on bm with convoke
At one point he was running mass entangle for the pets even
But most times he relied on his priest to fear the pets
junior plover
Sorry whats the question
Oh feral vs bm?
I think feral vs bm is generally a skill matchup but if youre convoke its just giga rough
even if u can find a convoke through pets youre gonna get turtled
havent played necro vs bm yet but it would seem like the best option probably
Kyrian vs BM felt fine
haughty nova
Can't he just feign your dots
green valve
Oh yea thats the other reason i dont mind bm on ret theres always pets near me to build holy power to keep me n the rdruid topped but youre right its not the most enjoyable class to play in 2s
haughty nova
I don't face many ferals in 2s but when I do I'm usually wrecked by big bites
So I assumed they were going for crits
Lol
junior plover
Nope full mastery stack
blissful belfry
You know what i hate the most about ferals in arena?
junior plover
But yeah if you play really fast the BM has few windows to actually play the game cuz youre constantly applying pressure with big bites
and healing a lot
but the matchup is very demanding
if you dont put him on the back foot, he auto wins
blissful belfry
their damage is never the fucking same. You face a kyky, then you go and face a fae. then its a necrolord and its never the same damage patterns
junior plover
otherwise its somewhat even
haughty nova
If you go necro can you just bully the healer instead?
junior plover
Possibly
haughty nova
Bm doesn't have great peels
junior plover
as kyrian I found it best to try and trade with the hunter
but kyrian doesnt have good pressure on healers
necro a lot better in that regard
and necro is significantly more tanky
which helps since your healer is in cc 70% of the game
quite literally
blissful belfry
necro healing is absurd
junior plover
AND necro is much better into warrior
blissful belfry
dese shitty cats almost outhealing my resto druid
junior plover
kyrian into arms is not something i want to experience ever again
haughty nova
Dude I don't see them anymore
junior plover
Yeah its all BM now lmao
haughty nova
I absolutely farm melees on my mage
junior plover
but theres still some
haughty nova
But only see bms
junior plover
I queued my first 2s session in a while 2 days back
I believe 12 out of 17 games
were bm
or something dumb like that
around 2.3k mmr
green valve
True
blissful belfry
i really dont understand how shit swap to fotm so quick. like, theres not A SINGLE bm on the ladder. then it comes flavor and suddenly thats the only thing you see. like, which fucking gutter did ya pop out of
green valve
Barely saw any carrying my dk bud to 1.8
haughty nova
I think it's because it's a popular class. Similar to warr
green valve
Warr was everywhere so was sin hpriest
dry star
They went into hiding after the MM nerfs at the beginning of the season
haughty nova
Thanks for the input guys you're awesome
junior plover
i really dont understand how shit swap to fotm so quick. like, theres not A SING...
Yeah they got a 5% damage buff or so lmao
obviously they were already broken before
but no one knew I suppose
same with necro feral
haughty nova
Wasn't it the versa bug fix on the pets that did it?
Versa didn't affect pets before
junior plover
Yeah
but that translates to about 5% more bm damage
12% more pet damage
and damage split for bm is about 60/40 iirc
cold escarp
60 being pets?
junior plover
40 I believe
amber depot
which cov you think will be best for feral in 9.1? im liking necro atm never done convoke
blissful belfry
pretty early to tell still. might depend on the new covenant specific leggos. depend on how they balance it out too
necro leggo seems really bad right now for what is announced
but it might change
it being bad wont necessarily make necro bad either way. it will depend if the leggo of other cov are busted and make em too strong
amber depot
nice point thanks
junior plover
which cov you think will be best for feral in 9.1? im liking necro atm never don...
No one knows tbh
all 3 seem broken in their own ways
amber depot
i just hate renown catchups
junior plover
Lmao DH flied up into sky at 10k hp
and my bleeds bled him out
and he fell from the sky
green valve
@junior plover through your guidance im getting this
Rake rip, cds, ff bite, 5 combo bite
Its working!
See ya boomie!
wise valley
So anyway I got the day off cus I pulled a muscle right and so I think to myself "self, go to goodwill"
lime light
Rake and insta Rip, as necro suck dick
junior plover
wise valley
From a canceled product line with the other vintage logo
110 retail
I paid 6 bucks lmaooo
green valve
coo
junior plover
The only diff is that kyrian goes can actually kill
and NF can kill if goes dont kill
but the goes are the same
granite jolt
Hi ^^
I am leveling my 2nd druid for RBG do you guys have any xp as kyrian guardian/boomy in RBG?
Can you recommend it or is nightfae clearly better?
tardy hare
Doesn't really matter
wise valley
Guardian convoke is like super cheese and basically is a kick bait
Cov doesn't matter all about IQ
clear pulsar
Soulshape is insane yall are cap
tiny tusk
why is it that I see ferals play resto aff sometimes but boomie strictly guardian aff?
clear pulsar
Generally feral only plays resto aff if necro too
haughty compass
Incap roar is a nice spell interrupt or cyclone set up too
tiny tusk
i see i see
haughty compass
Moonkin healer 2s, generally just go for healers still? I haven’t done 2s since like week 3
green valve
Sounds terrible
orchid badge
I love murdering entire teams of low-Ilevel folks with Convoke in arena skirmishes (I'm at 220, all PvP gear). Does that make me a bad person?!
smoky needle
I play arena skirmish as 225 tank
quiet heath
how do i catch a druid as a frost dk
i have trouble cos these god damn shapeshifters keep running away zoom zoom
is there any windows of opportunity i should look for?
ok and if their mate is an arms warrior i just surrender?
green valve
Nah kill warrior all your dmg is frost anyway
Grip druid in cleave let him run kill warr
Rinse repeat
forest kite
hey is itemlevel also overall in pvp for e.g I have 213 crit/mastery neck would u also go for the 200 ilv haste/vers from vendor? Or would farm some 7s and upgrade the gear to 220? Focus on Vers gear
sleek raven
Vers > all
smoky needle
Vers > all
If I have a full set of 225 gear but low vers, is it worth to switch to 200 pvp set
wild
wise valley
@clear pulsar flag running already snooze for guard ss is good yeah but jts not needed
supple path
Hi ^^
I am leveling my 2nd druid for RBG do you guys have any xp as kyrian guard...
Nightfae is clearly better for RBG if you are playing Guardian. Soulshape > anything for flag carrying and its not close.
wise valley
Got my alt druid to 44 so far today from scratch
green valve
Levelings kinda fun when you do it once in a blue moon
kindred patrol
So far I'm finding savage roar build better when you're just training/dampening someone and SoTF better when you're global locked CCing/healing/getting CC a good amount/kiting, anyone else finding SR to not always be practical? (necrolord)
blissful belfry
Sire is dead! Its time for PvP!
clear pulsar
Took you this long?
viral granite
why ae top feral necro
clear pulsar
AYO
MODS
PIN THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfUoFTIklow
Very in-depth guide made by ttv/flopdru
@surreal heron do your moderator job pls sir
clear pulsar
Thanks cutie
blissful belfry
Took you this long?
314 pulls long. yes. We are as bad as you might think. and probably even a bit more
Oh nice. a flop guide
stray sigil
i dont think its quite as toxic but could use some tweeking
atleast we do go oom in 4 casts and cant do shit for a while
weak hinge
Talents section is over 30mins hahaha
polar nymph
I respect that
junior plover
Generally feral only plays resto aff if necro too
This does not appear to be the case
FAKE NEWS
None of the top ferals logged out as resto aff
Only Snupy but he's cracked and NF
lime light
Guardian way better
viscid remnant
ye this is the guardian channel
machtig is our savior providing amazing guardian rbg guides
junior plover
tardy hare
tardy hare
me walking up to someone trying to cap my base
surreal heron
tiny oar
lime light
tardy hare
me waving at enemy guardian druid after i take his base cause he's bad
me 1v1'ing the rogue coming to my base
jade owl
😂
wise valley
@green valve leveling is the best part of shadowlands
Its way better now and more streamlined + time walking exp bonus is zzz
tawny inlet
for Draught of Deep Focus for Feral, do I go Vest or Necklace?
rich crag
So how is feral looking these days havent played much. Still NF or should i consider a NL swap ?
junior plover
for Draught of Deep Focus for Feral, do I go Vest or Necklace?
Chest
generally you should take whatever has the highest primary stat
junior plover
So how is feral looking these days havent played much. Still NF or should i con...
Necro is noticeably better
but NF is very capable
drowsy sierra
Goddamn. I'm just now getting into pvp and I have reasonably decent gear from pve, I get tickled by just about everything even when I've got the flag debuff on
But I guess I got a particularly well geared arms Warrior today, he hit me with a few condemns with two stacks of the flag debuff and absolutely ruined me through wall
Had a healer keeping me up as well, not sure what I could have done against him. 26% vers
I guess I gotta stack barkskin with SI and hope for the best?
safe heart
stun clone him and run
drowsy sierra
Yeah, I guess I gotta be less afraid of dropping bear to clone
safe heart
well if you bash you can clone him for free
warriors do a lot of dam, gotta just not be near them if you can help it
ursols, stun clones, roots etc
drowsy sierra
It's just bizarre because I rarely feel threatened by a single person
Usually takes at least a few doing good work to bring me down, but that fucker evaporated me
safe heart
well dont forget, warrior makes you way less healable with 1 global
drowsy sierra
Yeah
white sun
Is there a way to add a hunters pet to my Gladius so I can better target them to hibernate?
Or any other addon that you guys use to replicate what I am asking about?
white sun
To hibernate his pets?
white sun
Would you share the macro with me?
lime light
That's gonna hibernate any pet
In arena
I use it for root and hibernate
Might be a problem when there are like 2 classes with pet
unborn anchor
Arenapet is a viable target thing
lime light
Gonna link when iam at home
unborn anchor
So can use that in a macro as far as I am aware
lime light
Yes IT is
white sun
Okay ty!
tall knoll
Mouseover makro also works
junior plover
Real footage of dps in jungle
green valve
I mean assuming bm has a brain is a stretch
green valve
Think my hunters like lvl 52 i think my bars are like 75% empty
Without covenant its like a 3 button rotation lol
haughty nova
I guess I gotta stack barkskin with SI and hope for the best?
Warrs are usually slapping you during warbreaker/collosus smash window. They'll usually pair it with sharpen blade. You should Def consider running away from then during these windows
junior plover
implying i had counterplay
i wasnt even stunnd
went bear just after final reckoning
was my only global
cold escarp
i have a trick to beat rets works 100% of the time
green valve
Is it afk in the corner
cold escarp
cancel your wow sub
junior plover
cold escarp
worked for me
junior plover
I mean I suppose if I realized he was playing with exec sentence
I couldve prewalled
or w/e
I mean pre beared
cold escarp
arent they all running that talent
green valve
Nah zeal
junior plover
And I mean lets not act like doing 38k damage in a global is any better than 43k lmao
even without it the warlock farts and im ded
junior plover
bm stands for brokem
not many people know this fact
but its a fact none the less
junior plover
that too
green valve
Fps cleave
cold escarp
you'll pve so much you might as well just do m+
green valve
I played an unholy dk demo yesterday like actually almost crashed my buddys pc
Dk was running that bullshit zombie build
There was actually 47 pets out
Between the 2
cold escarp
i found a way to disable pet nameplates
while keeping totem nameplates
if u need lmk
junior plover
Would be nice if there was an addon that would make pets invisible
and no model
just shoosh away
green valve
Yea i use threat plates it seperates totems pets and guardians
junior plover
no hitbox i mean
blissful belfry
Thats without pressing final verdict hehehehe. But wat u doin facetanking his wings tho. run! or barkskin at least. what u saved it for? next game?
on a side note. basically no ret use exec sentence
My trick with ret is to just look at his buff. Seraphim up? yes. Wings available? yes - run
clear pulsar
no hitbox i mean
If you hide pets healthbars but show totems then you can always target the right thing
blissful belfry
if u need lmk
I need. i have both disabled, but i'd like totems np to kill grounding faster
ans skyfury
cold escarp
get advanced interface options
cold escarp
its a line sec ill log to get a screenshot
blissful belfry
kk. i run elvui too, dunno if it will impact it. Ima try it out tonight
cold escarp
shouldnt
in the cvar browser
type 'totem name'
and the unitnameenemytotemname should be set to 1
blissful belfry
kk thx
cold escarp
blissful belfry
im tryna push some shadowplay to 2.1. strugglin a bit cuz both dps are 220 ilvl facin 226 most of the time. gotta improve on everything we can find
cold escarp
yup its an uphill battle
how does shadowplay match up against bms?
with bm just removing all dots every 15 sec with no consequences i guess its very aids
orchid badge
What is the addon that shows that fight replay? Looks very useful!
junior plover
What is the addon that shows that fight replay? Looks very useful!
Details
junior plover
If you hide pets healthbars but show totems then you can always target the right...
I never really have issues with targetting them the screen clutter is just annoying
junior plover
Thats without pressing final verdict hehehehe. But wat u doin facetanking his wi...
Thing is
sometimes you have to barkskin the other player's cooldowns
and can taking 2 globals be described as facetaking? lmao
There should be no excuse for a spec to deal 100% of a fully geared player's life with under a second to react and answer correctly
my only defensive available was frenzied regen so I went bear with the intention of pressing it
but died before I could
the only way to live that is if my priest instantly trinkets when I'm at 100% hp
would you do that?
Not that I'm that mad, I just posted it because it's the most ridiculous thing a ret has ever done to me
blissful belfry
how does shadowplay match up against bms?
Very well. you dont kill the bm, but you can kill the healer and the other dps. The good thing is imp dispell and mass dispell for traps. Good bm can hunter's mark you before trapping so its a 50% chance imp dispell. but its still really ncie to coutner their cc
clear pulsar
Coping mechanisms of wow players
'This isn't the most stupid thing in the game so it's alright give blizz a pass'
blissful belfry
I mean, ret is the class that scares me the least AND the most at the same time
blissful belfry
Like, i know for a fact a ret wont kill me. but im always worried that my 2hed dps will facetank him or fail to anticipate the go
lime light
Also the ret and warriors players "its fine we are op, cuz we were bad last ssn"
😸
Yes
blissful belfry
and can taking 2 globals be described as facetaking? lmao
You can be happy it wasnt against ret and ww like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282986412624838666/830290741078392852/unknown.png
My dude died in 0.1s
ww hits 44% my friend's hp. Ret crits for the 56% remaining 0.1s later
clear pulsar
You should see trill running serenity build
18k RSK
With like
3s cd
Or something
blissful belfry
i miss full moon
vagrant vigil
How is boomie necro in arena ? i'v seen chan play it, seemed fun
lime light
No
haughty compass
Dispel
blissful belfry
Boomie necro sounds really bad
i'd play boomy venthyr before boomie necro
but i wouldnt play boomy venthyr
clear pulsar
Nah
You only say that
Cuz you don't realize
How worthless venthyr is
Necro at least has fleshcraft
blissful belfry
yeah perhaps. venthyr really sounds bad, especially since most of the damage of it is at the end, after continuous cast, where people will have had 15 sec to line ya
but necrolord boomy is basically just fleshcraft
hardy cargo
The only reason you'd be a necro boomy is if you're a resto druid offspeccing temporarily.
blissful belfry
^
clear pulsar
Dipii and chan both like it and play it
Chan isnt a boomie main but dipii's been necro on both his 3.1k+ boomies for over a month now
And he has definitely queued since
I checked number of games played from one week to the next
Idk why yall hate on it so much lol
blissful belfry
is just shit man. Guy is good, nice. still a shit cov
its like that rudar dude and his venthyr druid video. he his miles better than me. still a shit idea. It only ''works'' cuz he plays well
clear pulsar
Not at all lol
Rudar made top 8 multiple cups, he's one of the better boomies in NA, and makes videos stomping low mmr games
It's completely different than dipii being necro on his main queues for months
blissful belfry
i mean, my comparison cant be 100% accurate, they arent the same dude doing the same thing
blissful belfry
But at that lvl its about the play
clear pulsar
Any of you been long time kyrian and do mission table shit?
I'm unsure of what followers to spam the extra exp missions on
Which ones will be more useful for stuff like soul ash missions and higher level campaign missions
That I should focus on leveling first
tall knoll
Not really doing it much anymore, but Mikanikos, Pelagos in the backline. Clora, Meatball and Croman upfront (maybe Kleia).
clear pulsar
Yeah the 3 soulbinds look the best
CHEERS BROTHER
Maybe I go ask in the monk or pala discord
tall knoll
Mikanikos is the best supporter out there. he is busted
clear pulsar
Surely someone in there is a huge mission table nerd
tardy hare
tall knoll
there was a spreadsheet on reddit some time ago. which went into unnecessary detail about each companions worth and average damage and stuff like that
green valve
I'm unsure of what followers to spam the extra exp missions on
Level them all static guys level up by like mean level of companions
Kyrian guys in general suck
tall knoll
way too many healer/archer dudes
green valve
Yea and the static troops blow
You can do night fae missions like + 10 levels over with 4 trappers and any hero
clear pulsar
Nah they got hella buffed
green valve
They got hella buffed to be on par with the other covs
tall knoll
Its still awkward to put 2 healers in the back and 3 archers upfront xD
But yeah i stopped doing it after like 3 months. Was a nice distraction on the mobile app at work.
sterile snow
blissful belfry
table is only nice for passive rune (gold) income
blissful belfry
dry star
Good change
blissful belfry
good to counter boosting? Just make booster get more money out of weekly win?
i kinda like the idea because i hated the feeling of not wanting to ever tank under 2100 to keep having upgrade possibility
clear pulsar
This doesnt counter boosts lol
stray sigil
u can sit 2.1 in a bracket
and just spam 1400 2s games
and just upgrade the vault anyways
dry star
with this change, you'd have to play a game in the 2.1 bracket
can't just totally sit it
blissful belfry
This doesnt counter boosts lol
well, yes and no. Boosts will be much less effective if you cant sit on it the entire season and need a weekly win
blissful belfry
but boost will still exist. and it might encourage to buy a weekly win boost
stray sigil
u can just upgrade it manually afterwards
clear pulsar
Fuji doesnt read
dry star
guess not
stray sigil
oh so its bfa system
clear pulsar
He's french canadian give him a break
stray sigil
who cares really
blissful belfry
what
clear pulsar
Quebecois
blissful belfry
wait, IM french canadian
stray sigil
ya ok ur brazilian though
blissful belfry
Frenchie stronger than u
clear pulsar
Yes we play at lag and still smack
BIG time
You know you'd never break 1800 playing at 170ms right?
Smh
blissful belfry
i was tryna find a worst NA country than brazil
i gave up
well
America in general i guess
stray sigil
yup face is SMACKING the 2.1 ladder
INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
@clear pulsar
clear pulsar
I'm actually gladiator if you sum my exp and my latency
stray sigil
oh wait uve been sitting 2.1 since 2nd week of the season
blissful belfry
stray sigil
RAT @clear pulsar
blissful belfry
Its always the partners fault
clear pulsar
I went horde cuz we were gonna get hero but then you ditched me
blissful belfry
that i can agree
blissful belfry
face tossin a dice to see what cov to play next
clear pulsar
^
stray sigil
cool u can give me some moneys
clear pulsar
I have 12 legendaries and have swapped covenants 13 times
I need big money to pay my sub you rat
blissful belfry
the only gold i could farm came from my guild hc sales. but i stopped goin cuz its was sooo boring
clear pulsar
Ask kiosk
I was talking to him about my crashes
My game was crashing everytime I did anything
And even when I didn't do anything
I legit wiped out all my files
blissful belfry
brazii pc?
clear pulsar
Reinstalled windows clean
And spent the last 2 days downloading and setting shit up
blissful belfry
oh man, i remember in bfa. my game broke twice in the xpac and i had to redo my entire UI every time
i swear if it happens again i just quit the game
stray sigil
nop u lied to me
betrayed me
i had to pug a 14 sd tyr necro bol
u did this to me
blissful belfry
My trick is to not do keys anymore
stray sigil
so what im hearing is ur not troubleshooting now
blissful belfry
stray sigil
got it
clear pulsar
Disabled Radeon overlay
Uninstalled Gyazo
Disabled Xbox game bar
Disabled Discord overlay
Scan and repair tool
Disabled all addons
Reset interface (delete Cache, WTF and Interface folders)
Open WOW from executable, without BNet launcher
Clean removal and reinstalling graphics card driver
Rolling back to previous stable driver versions
Complete removal of Battlenet, WOW, installing on different file paths, etc
Running the game on DX11 Legacy, on Windowed mode as well
Memory diagnostic tool
Defragmentation of the ssd
These are the things I spent last week doing
clear pulsar
I was so tilted I wiped out my hdd by mistake when formatting the ssd windows is installed on
blissful belfry
oof
clear pulsar
Cuz they had ~they're the same size and had roughly the same amount of free space
So I didn't know which was which
Except the ssd was just windows and games, the hdd was movies, old photos, college stuff, textbook pdfs, etc
Lost so much important shit
blissful belfry
PvP Talents (1)
Owlkin Adept Owlkin Frenzy can stack up to 2 times and reduces the cast time of your next Cyclone or Entangling Roots by 50% .and can stack up to 2 times.(greyed out)
oh no. did they remove instant clones before we could even use it?
blissful belfry
from the wording it looked like owlkin frenzy didnt stack, but the adept buff stacked to 2. and now its the other way around
would have to test
covert chasm
So is necro alot better then night fae? (Feral)
blissful belfry
oh really. i havent tried ptr. i just discussed it here when they put it first in notes
oh man, new light's grace hpal talent gives a 15% dr for 5s every time you holy light
i guess they'll be castin more
blissful belfry
it shifts holy light more on the dr side and less on the healing side
but i feel 15% dr whenever u want it is strong
clear pulsar
But look at the rest
Divine favor nerfed again
These are big nerfs to the spike heals of hpal
blissful belfry
tru
dry star
Not as big of nerfs as it appears, they buffed base holy light by 20% in pvp
clear pulsar
With a 20% baseline buff to compensate a bit
blissful belfry
Not as big of nerfs as it appears, they buffed base holy light by 20% in pvp
also true ye
clear pulsar
It's still a 33% nerf to divine favor holy light
dry star
holy light is about 8-10% lower if you take the same talents, if I did my math correctly
it makes those talents less mandatory (though, people will probably still take them)
clear pulsar
And a 9% nerf to holy light base with light's grace only
blissful belfry
its going to shift the way they play around it i guess
jsut holy light before goes once for a flat dr
and refresh every 5 s if goes keep goin
lime light
Hpal perma ded to rmx
clear pulsar
It's a definite nerf to hpal
ebon vortex
christ they fucking murdered them lmao
dry star
eh I wouldn't call it murdered
ebon vortex
its a lot less healing from holy light
clear pulsar
THey murdered them
ebon vortex
divine favor is gonna hit like a wet noodle now too
dry star
they got murdered if you don't include the base 20% increase to holy light in pvp
ebon vortex
lights grace already gave it a 50% increase
clear pulsar
It's a 33% nerf to holy light heal
WITH the 20% buff to base holy light
I mean to divine favor heal
ebon vortex
rip 40k divine favor crits
blissful belfry
now just gotta give WoG a mana cost in addtion to holy power!
tardy hare
DEATH TO HOLY PALADINS 
ebon vortex
are they actually lmfao
blissful belfry
Well
blissful belfry
they buff it for PvE
clear pulsar
10% buffs to mortal strike, overpower and deep wounds
blissful belfry
Because its the wrost spec in pve
but it will impact pvp
unless they make changes exclusive
Mortal strike pvp multiplier has been reduced further ya
wise valley
Absolutely crushing tof leveling
blissful belfry
its a pve buff
wise valley
And I've copped 20 nightshade
dry star
MS damage is the same, overpower 10% increase and deep wounds bleed 20% increase
blissful belfry
dere u go padrino
Locust Swarm Adaptive Swarm has a 30%60% chance to split into two Swarms each time it jumps.
60% instead of 30%. will it become relevent? prolly not in pvp
or will it?
multi bleed necro lord rot lord
blissful belfry
did they buff locks in a relevent way?
haughty compass
Arms needed more dmg for sure
clear pulsar
60% instead of 30%. will it become relevent? prolly not in pvp
Highly doubt anyone uses that leggo
lime light
Thx
junior plover
My dude died in 0.1s
junior plover
I mean, ret is the class that scares me the least AND the most at the same time
I feel u
how do u lose to ret lmao
but also
fucking ret
blissful belfry
lel
junior plover
I also had an Ele shaman kill my priest in 0.4s when the game begun earlier in the season
literally 1st cast of the game
was a oneshot
dont remember how that happened
but I was scared of eles for a while
blissful belfry
ele shammies give me the most trouble out of all the specs in the game
runnin shadowplay, i dont think we've won a game against a shammy even once
he just sheer and ground their dmg everytime
and my 2 ook ook caster dont like to play defensive on stormkeeper
junior plover
Astral Shift is honestly
absurdly ridiculous
but I don't feel too threathened by ele
they just never die
tardy hare
gonna look up to play resto destro in 2s perhaps
Pls do not
Keep them casters out of 2s
blissful belfry
lol
tardy hare
Dont u dare ruin my experience
blissful belfry
please mathtig. im clearly not queuin in ya bracket
tardy hare
What if i set foot in yours for my own satisfaction
haughty compass
I play moonkin and demo
tardy hare
!!!!
haughty compass
Forever duelist on both. Maybe next season bros
blissful belfry
tardy hare
Next season im glad
Season after im probably glad if i still play
Season after same thing
junior plover
When will u get duelist tho
tardy hare
Never tbh
junior plover
rigid linden
woeful epoch
Can the Wicked Claws wounds debuff be removed by shapeshift?
clear pulsar
I imagine it can since it's part of infected claws
The same debuff
Hpal is no more, spr plague nerf but big swp / vt buffs, arms slight buff, venthyr druid leggo kinda pog now
woeful epoch
Oh, didn't even think about Freedom or Master's Call
clear pulsar
Hpal got murdered
woeful epoch
HPal seems okay? Their Holy Light PVP talents just aren't as mandatory and it's more important to get ez interrupts on them.
clear pulsar
That's not seeming ok lmao
Divine favor heal legit nerfed by 33%
The more you have to hardcast as a healer the worse you are
woeful epoch
But with 1.2x in pvp it should cancel out a bit
clear pulsar
But with 1.2x in pvp it should cancel out a bit
That's not how math works
woeful epoch
180% Divine Favor heal vs 200%
clear pulsar
That is not how math works
100 * 1.5 * 2 divine favor heal vs 120 * 1.15 * 1.5 after all changes
woeful epoch
Assuming they were running both, sure
vague mural
lament rivet
Are you guys running form macros or just using cancel form for resto to get out of shapeshifts and cast things? Right now I have things set like form 1: spell, form 2: spell, etc but it seems overly complicated
lament rivet
Yeah I set up a few and was like???
I have a few cancel auras on my main mage. I'm not sure why I didn't think about cancel form.
gloomy token
It's either vers haste or vers mast
gloomy token
Haste gives that nice cyclone
turbid jolt
i figured you get more burst in mastery since you can sneak a bite in too right
i am just too bored of night fae
is the wowhead necro guide good?
gloomy token
Nf is bitespec aka bfa feral with a dopamine button
turbid jolt
yeah i was ok with the legion bite build in antorus but not like my favorite
bfa i just quit
getting up to that point again so i figured try necro out first
blissful belfry
feral resto aff necrolord with bm in 2s is so fucking trash, just delete these shitters from the game
pale field
this might be a stupid question, but if i have fleshcraft shield active at 30k, and i use survival instincts, does that value get calculated before or after the shield is consumed? ie. the 30k shield is now 45k ehp?
drowsy sierra
When you guys FC, what affinity do you run?
blissful belfry
as Guardian im pretty sure they go resto aff. as boomy its guardian 100%. But you should fc as guardian
guardian druid can take boomy aff on the map where you can flap across
drowsy sierra
ty!
pale field
thank you.
limpid moth
Guys, how is Kyrian guardian from NF? i wanna play boomie as kyrian but i also wanna have my bear.
