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viscid remnant
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No clear counter

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Hard counter rogue gg

gloomy nova
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bm counters bm

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so find urself a bm

tiny oar
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All the Chinese lads love playing bm hunters and prot pallies cant even count how many of them I saw while queuing up in the morning lol

obsidian tiger
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are there any particularly good resto pvp resources outside of icyveins and streamers? any video/written guides people found particularly in-depth and helpful to them for climbing?

junior plover
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No china bois in eu

tiny oar
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Damn idk then.
we get a decent amount of em on NA on illidan server

lime light
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how do u lose to bm hunter

proven axle
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Yo, so i have been doing some 3s with an arms warrior, with me playing feral and we normally play with disc/hpala. We normally win games, but the hard exception are these melee cleave comps. Arms+ret, Arms+Frostdk, Arms+WW are the worst ones. I was wondering if anyone has some solid tips on how to deal with these. We have about 34k hp and like 28% versa for reference, but it seems like every time we meet them, they just outdps us hard cause a lot of the time we meet 40k hp enemies. We have tried rooting and running from dk, cleaving back and just trying to cc them whenever DR falls off on them, but its been no use. Im expecting me to be the kill target, but most of the time they just bumrush the arms warrior and i cant do much to save him. Does anyone know what to do, cause im genuinely bafffled.

cold escarp
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sounds like you get outgeared

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keep grinding and get your gear it will get easier

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but still feral +arms is not a great comp into melee cleaves you will have to outplay them to win

lime light
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if u getting cleaved hard

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go for their healer

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not to rly kill him, but make them confused what to do

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and lower their cleave pressure

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if they are going on u, just run kite whole game

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till they get borred

tiny oar
lime light
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HooowWWW00WW

junior plover
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Why was 17 out of 20 games in this session bm hunter or arms warrior

lime light
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cuz 90% of the low rated dogs

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are playing the best class

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possible

junior plover
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its top 0.5% lmao

lime light
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so they can get out

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of the ghetto raiting

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2.1k is ghetto

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not 0.5%

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my ass

junior plover
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2250 mmr

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this session

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def 0.5

lime light
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yeye

junior plover
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not that i care

cold escarp
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2250 is getting up there

junior plover
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but thats not the reason

lime light
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ofc 90% of the wow community

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plays the best class

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possible

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its if u cant win them

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join them

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and they cant win vs bm or arms

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so they play it themself

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arms dont seems to be that super crazy, till u play with a disc priest

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or holy maybe too

cold escarp
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shouldnt u kill enemy healers in mind gams convoke every time?

proven axle
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cheers for the answers, i was hoping it wouldnt be that we are getting outgeared, but oh well, guess we do some twos as arms resto

lime light
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it should be not allowed to face arms as disc

cold escarp
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holy priests cant really survive burst after guardian

lime light
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but guardian is 1 min cd

cold escarp
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just pop it and its 3 min

lime light
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fade

junior plover
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U cant convoke vs bm

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and vs arms

cold escarp
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cross cc?

junior plover
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you cant kill healer because warriors hold berserker rage

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???

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cross cc the pets?

cold escarp
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yes?

junior plover
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tried

lime light
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XD

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Cryonix

junior plover
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doesnt help much

lime light
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u are an ape

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go to the corner

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for 5 min

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please

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dont speak

cold escarp
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i have 80% win rate vs holy priest bm at 2400

junior plover
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You can try to fear pets off feral

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but:

lime light
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arms wise, prolly chase the healer whole game

junior plover
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almost never works

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and when it works

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hunter is only in cc for a chastise

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cuz no fear for him

cold escarp
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btw hunter cant use his pet stun when hes in fear / clone

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so u dont have to cc pets

junior plover
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????

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they

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eat

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convoke

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u deal 0 damage

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to healer

cold escarp
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oh well feral convoke is trash then i guess

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boomy convoke kills both pets and healer after too

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x)

lime light
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its op in 2s vs some low armor targets

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and no pet teams

junior plover
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Stop bully

lime light
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otherwise its bad

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in rdru meta

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actually blast

cold escarp
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is it rdru meta?

junior plover
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Convoke doesnt kill rdru through whi

lime light
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in 2s it is

cold escarp
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yeah we kill rdruids by non stop train and ignore hunter

lime light
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and holy priest

cold escarp
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literally just ape the rdruid

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run them down

lime light
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idk imo

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for not necro feral

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bm shouldnt be as bad

cold escarp
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when is fleshcraft getting fixed btw

lime light
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u dont have to bleed

cold escarp
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in 2s its broken

lime light
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u can chase them to africa

cold escarp
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80% dampen suddenly dudes cast a 25k shield

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with bm

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worst thing i saw

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resto shaman who pops earth ele

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and battlemaster trinket

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was like 33k shield

viral smelt
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For necroferal do I want circle or draught?

lime light
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draught yes

sly marsh
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draught

viral smelt
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Ok thanks. Chest?

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Versa/mast or vers haste?

lime light
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v and m

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chest

junior plover
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u play without a covenant

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ofc its bad

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lmao

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for kyrian maybe

cold escarp
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what cov is witohut cov

lime light
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try killing the pet with convoke then?

night brook
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whats the weapon enchant for resto druid? ;d

junior plover
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since theres 2

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theres like a 40% chance of success

lime light
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root the other one?

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sky is the limit

junior plover
lime light
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go with the pets behind a pillar

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and do the sneaky beaky

green valve
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The real pets the one with all the dumb buffs

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Kill that one its a pia having to manually target it

junior plover
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its easier than that

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120 focus

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is the real one

green valve
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Trueee

haughty compass
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Killing a bm pet on my demo lock gave me covid

green valve
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Lol

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Did you have to tyrant it

clear pulsar
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No he just feels sick killing another man's significant other

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Being a pet man himself

lime light
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not true

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there is a big difference between demo lock and bm hunter

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bm hunter loves his pets

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they are best friends forever

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and demo lock force his pet

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to be with him

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they hate each other

tawny inlet
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convoke usable for ferals pvp?

lime light
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yes

tawny inlet
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how useable compared to necro?

clear pulsar
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About tree fiddy

junior plover
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Convoke = good

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Kyrian = better

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Necro = dream

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its good enough that it's still periodically picked over necro/kyrian even in AWC

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altho rarely since 9.0.5

cold escarp
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just swap already

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you talk bout necro all day

green valve
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You wont

lime light
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poosey

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carried by convoker

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no ballz

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to go real alpha male covenant

cold escarp
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convoke is the alphaest if u think about it

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high risk high reward

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necro is safe

lime light
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no

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poosey no skill

cold escarp
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big shields and survive

lime light
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one button

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disgoting

cold escarp
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just do big dick dmg and win

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who needs defense

lime light
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big disgrace

cold escarp
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thats why i play 25% mastery and convoke

lime light
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BIG DISGRACE

clear pulsar
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Venthyr is the most alpha

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You're so confident you literally play a covenant that fucks you up

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So you give enemies a better chance

cold escarp
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true

junior plover
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i gotta get keystone master

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and all that

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just cant be bothered

tawny inlet
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convoke bite...how does that work? it use combo points?

cold escarp
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it just bites

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no combo point use or gain

lime light
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but u dont have any 15 timed KID @junior plover

junior plover
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yes i have 14 timed from like week 3

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when i was 200 ilvl

tawny inlet
junior plover
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so i think i can manage

lime light
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necro or poosey

junior plover
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if you roll a bite

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its a 50 energy 5cp bite

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in terms of damage

tawny inlet
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ah ok

cold escarp
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thats how its coded

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its like it shoots starsurge without wasting astral power

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or does heals without spending mana

tawny inlet
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starsurge I can get, but bite has a scaling component (energy + cp)

cold escarp
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yeah they just coded it manually to do max cp dmg

tawny inlet
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sick

smoky needle
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what happens in an arena skirmish when it's a 1v1 and the player on your team leaves? do you still get honor for losing?

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the player that's alive in the 1v1 leaves*

cold escarp
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is fel rush doing 10k crits intended design?

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i wonder when is our wild charge gonna do 10k thinkin

clear pulsar
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It's a talent

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It's getting slightly nerfed next patch also

cold escarp
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good

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mobility skills shouldnt even do dmg

clear pulsar
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It happens once every ~25s

cold escarp
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Yes.

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DHs are broke in 2s

junior plover
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DH = good

clear pulsar
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Nah

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DH isn't broken

junior plover
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yes but why is it playable??

cold escarp
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broke in 2s

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dont care what u say

tawny inlet
junior plover
cold escarp
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i meet braindead dhs at 2.4k

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cause that class requires 4 fingers to do good

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every ability has dmg baked into it

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stun? also does dmg

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dash? also does dmg

junior plover
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kapthaw imagine not having dmg on your stun

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btw no awc this weekend?

lime light
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dh is rly good for 2s

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not rly broken, but good

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and idk what to feel about using mobility for dmg

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at least they have to choose

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damgur or mobility

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and its first ixpac, where u can kill dh

cold escarp
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BROKE

junior plover
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when dh hitting u

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press root

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if he still hitting

tawny inlet
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Maim

cold escarp
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if u cast vs dh u already lost

junior plover
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press thorns

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he dead

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cast roots

cold escarp
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they smart they play with holy priest

junior plover
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sorry i play good spec

cold escarp
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so thorns is dispell

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BROKE

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that is all

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dont argue

tawny inlet
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if u think u lose vs a player just because of a spec, the issue isnt with the spec, its cuz u give up before trying :p

junior plover
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true unless its bm

junior plover
cold escarp
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i play wtih pala now

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alts

junior plover
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1 mindgames is like 2 demon hunters worth of damagur

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no i agree its good

cold escarp
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no its not just good

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they do 3k dps

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all game

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highest dmg class in pvp in my experience

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ok other than ret but ret cant connect to anything so

junior plover
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but just dont play caster

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and smash them

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its ez

lime light
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how do u lose to dh

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just dont die

cold escarp
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holy shit how i didnt think of that

lime light
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idk

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but thats why they call me

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el patron

cold escarp
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but actually we lose cause pala goes oom

lime light
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el padrino

cold escarp
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and dh is unkillable

lime light
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chief rocka

junior plover
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el ruski

junior plover
cold escarp
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darkness

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darkness proc

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45 sec wall

junior plover
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get darkness win next go

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ez clap

cold escarp
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nether walk

junior plover
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idk imagine not having higher damage on non plates

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WeirdChamp

cold escarp
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what is plate

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like the armor?

junior plover
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yes

cold escarp
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never heard of such thing

junior plover
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dh dies in one stun

cold escarp
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playing caster from birth till death

junior plover
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its free

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cuz leather boi

cold escarp
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ye makes sense

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but not for casters

junior plover
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adhoc out of awc didnt know till now sadbear

cold escarp
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they even got passive dmg reduce to magic

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from their tattoos

lime light
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deal physical dmg?

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spec trees

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??

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sky is the limit

cold escarp
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sky is not limit

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there is space

junior plover
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did u try pressing convoke

cold escarp
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nether walk is same cd as convoke

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so its kinda fucked

clear pulsar
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Stun them first

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Hello?

cold escarp
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ye ok

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shut up

lime light
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CONVOKE AFTER NETHER WALK

clear pulsar
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You should honestly play

cold escarp
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dh broke dont care

clear pulsar
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Feral affinity

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For maims

clear pulsar
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BIG setup

clear pulsar
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CRYonix

junior plover
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Normally id say no bully

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but hes a boomkin

lime light
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his boomkin name is kinda cringey

clear pulsar
cold escarp
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its not boomkin name

junior plover
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Reroll mage already play a real caster

cold escarp
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its my mage name

junior plover
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perfect

cold escarp
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google my name

clear pulsar
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Mage main

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Complain that dh is broke

lime light
junior plover
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Google my name

lime light
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ofc

junior plover
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Kiosk

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I dare you

cold escarp
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owlofelune is fucking great name

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chu mean

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im proud of that one

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RP to the max

junior plover
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too roleplayish

lime light
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good name for egirl

cold escarp
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love me some RP

junior plover
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good name is something like

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howdoyoulose

cold escarp
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nah thats just tryhard to be funny name

lime light
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NO VASELINE

junior plover
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brb checking if thats free

lime light
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IS A GOOD NAME

junior plover
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just call yourself owl in spanish or something

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thats a good boomie name

lime light
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or u call yourself rozkurwiator

junior plover
junior plover
cold escarp
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nah that sucks

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my names legit af

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RP names = good

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funny names was funny 10 years ago

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now its all overused cringy jokes

clear pulsar
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Owlofelune is cringy

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Also crying about dh is cringy

cold escarp
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but its rp cringy

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dh is broke

lime light
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the only Role playing that is allowed here

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is erotic role playing

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ERP in short

clear pulsar
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Tian begs to be banned I swear

lime light
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how come

clear pulsar
lime light
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i did nothing wrong

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thats the way

cold escarp
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erp is okay

junior plover
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Wait nvm did adhoc qualify

cold escarp
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good times in goldshire

junior plover
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WHO QUALIFIED

cold escarp
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tegridy

junior plover
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no

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this cannot be

cold escarp
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feral sucks

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sorry

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time to gear your spriest

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we gonna play godcomp

haughty compass
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Feral going to be bis next patch

cold escarp
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the day feral is good is the day i quit this game tbh

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its like bm hunter

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when its good its oppressive

junior plover
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we deserve it

cold escarp
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eh

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not fun

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its bad design class

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like sub rogue too

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remember sub rogue in 9.0

tawny inlet
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talkin about bad decisions, if everything is so messed up, why u keep playing it, literally got a negative comment to everything brought up xD

cold escarp
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im addicted

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also i dont push anymore cause bm hunters exist

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i just play alts right now

junior plover
cold escarp
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melee's weakness is getting kited

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melee that cant get kited is bad design

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sorry

tawny inlet
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....so u think dh is op....but u say u play on alts....then play a dh? problem solved?

cold escarp
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all im saying here is tongue in cheek

clear pulsar
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Cryonix is addicted to whining about every spec

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Except the one he plays ofc

cold escarp
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exactly

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buff boomys

tawny inlet
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that might happen
|| after they remove convoke ||

cold escarp
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i play kyrian on my main

clear pulsar
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Convoke isn't even the best covenant

tawny inlet
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well probably not consistently, but still high potential

cold escarp
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just kick it

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los stun

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0.2 sec stun is enough

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triple dr'd rake

tawny inlet
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just kill them before kick

cold escarp
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now ur talking

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thats why i stack mastery

clear pulsar
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You dont even run double on-use tho

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Pretty weak sauce

cold escarp
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i would if it was possible

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they share a 30 sec cd

clear pulsar
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No idiot

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Pve double on-use

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Empyreal ord + bell

cold escarp
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its better than 40% versa to dmg?

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hmm

clear pulsar
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@cold escarp didnt you say you stack mastery?

cold escarp
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on my alt

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chekc my alt

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bruh

clear pulsar
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Lmao

cold escarp
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on main i play the standard meta slave build

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i got an alt to do all the meme shit

clear pulsar
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My guy's all bark no bite

cold escarp
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this

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where do u see stats here

tawny inlet
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pog we play on same server

cold escarp
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wanna que?

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professional convoker

tawny inlet
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im unrated, but sure, im also at lvl 57 atm

cold escarp
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oh nvm

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actually i have a 57 mage

tawny inlet
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ive spent so much time ganking in bastion lmao

stray sigil
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i thought u said u qd like 2500

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something doesnt add up here

clear pulsar
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That's kawkaw I think

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I get the boomies mixed up too

stray sigil
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im pretty sure he said he played 2s around 2.5

cold escarp
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ye

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i peak cr at like 2450? i think

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but was 2550 mmr

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stopped pushing cuz bms

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stop stalking my page

lime light
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confess

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how expensive it was

cold escarp
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three fiddy

junior plover
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i peaked in higschool

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personally

cold escarp
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i havent even begun to peak

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just wait for the 9.1 frost mage dream

junior plover
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oh no i wasnt talking about wow

cold escarp
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oh no

lime light
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Hydra not playing with ruskis anymore?

cold escarp
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they got knocked early no?

lime light
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idk tony title says

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jungle with team

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and hydra playing tbc

cold escarp
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hmm

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well he is washed

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so i get why they kick him

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all he does is play viewer 2s and tbc

lime light
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LMAO

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nice rack

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crack

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he is washed

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lmao still the best priest after meh to log retail

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but he is washed

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sure

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ofc he cant play any other healer

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but so the ruskis cant play any 2nd character properly

cold escarp
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washed af

lime light
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u are a rat

clear pulsar
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Hydra not playing no

edgy shale
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if el patron calls u a rat then ur a rat

cold escarp
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ill take it

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hydra still washed

clear pulsar
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The priest they're playing with on live is the healer signed up with their team @lime light

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Altho he's a pala main

lime light
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i know

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faced him

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a lot

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didnt know he is ruski tho

clear pulsar
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And they have titarie

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A mage

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As 4th

lime light
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he was playing only rmpala

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last ssn

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dont know this mage

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looks like big multiclasser

clear pulsar
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Disyo and tj signed up

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MOAR JUNGLE

lime light
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tj best feral to log

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but he quits a lot

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plays a bit quit and go on

clear pulsar
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Bicmex and rat signed up too

lime light
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thug cant win

clear pulsar
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It can ofc

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If you have best hunter world

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Maldiva playing relegation cup with BR ret

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Best ret world tbh

lime light
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best br ret is around 2k eu

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and 3k na

clear pulsar
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Funny

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Remember when pikaboo >> whaazz in blizzcon?

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I remember

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EU is trash

lime light
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was never a thing

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eu lost cuz bad ping

clear pulsar
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Then next time they face each other

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Whaazz goes warrior

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Scared of the rogue v rogue

lime light
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why u are toxic towards best player world

clear pulsar
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FOTM reroller more like

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I only respect players that stick to their guns

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Cassidy never played rmp in tournaments like tony

lime light
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think he did

obtuse ice
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Cassidy is love

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No one talk bad abt cassi ooki

lime light
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FRENCH OPICE

summer cliff
clear pulsar
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Well pikaboo is retired from competition

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He only uses the AWC for stream advertising now

cold escarp
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thats what happens when AWC pays less than below avg streaming career

keen phoenix
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@tiny oar prot pallie is trash now tho?

turbid radish
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is convoke nerfed in arenas?

cold escarp
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nerfed in pvp

clear pulsar
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Not in any meaningful way

cold escarp
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doesnt do full moons

clear pulsar
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But yes

turbid radish
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but mine is not casting any starsurges

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0.0

stray sigil
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are u in combat

cold escarp
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were u in moonkin form when u pressed it?

stray sigil
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and in boomy form

turbid radish
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yup

cold escarp
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was ur target in root or any cc that can break on dmg?

turbid radish
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I did root + solar

cold escarp
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well there you go

turbid radish
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ok ty

cold escarp
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convoke doesnt hit targets that are in cc that can break on dmg

neat rapids
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Noob druid question. I'm putting together a guardian for my pvp team. I'm about to close on the conq to buy my weapon. I run Balance most of the time / only need to guardian on FC maps really, how important would the 46 agi be on the 2h polearm vs. getting int and just losing that 46 agi on the occasions I'm running guardian?

stray sigil
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might aswell just boomy fc

high swan
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Anyone else's omnibar not working

cold escarp
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omnibar the one with enemy interrups?

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try update

signal pollen
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Hi fellow droods, can anyone recommend between Niya and Dreamweaver for rated PVP?

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Niyas offensives are good but the Pod from Dreamweaver seems too good to ignore

green valve
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niyah

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double endurance

cold escarp
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pod is bad once u start meeting competent players

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and also its playing around dying which u shouldnt do

signal pollen
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thanks!

cold escarp
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check the pinned messages for more info

clear pulsar
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Last one to the right

clear pulsar
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Syfox probably

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Kittycleave necro

crimson vault
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Snupy is a good one to watch too

clear pulsar
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Ofc

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He was the first

cold escarp
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he do

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hes streaming now

clear pulsar
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Of the tourney/multirank1 ferals

cold escarp
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playing jungle

misty shuttle
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linkage to streamage? hey all

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name is Venruki?

weak hinge
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name is tonycatmeow

misty shuttle
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ty

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hard to work out what's happening when I can't read it :/

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and all his spells are covered

cold escarp
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well he is r*ssian

misty shuttle
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yeah I got that ^^

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looking to pick up some tips and to see if I fancy trying pvp as feral

cold escarp
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he doesnt say anything interesting

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just watch how he uses rotation and cds

misty shuttle
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hard to see what he's using

cold escarp
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for me its easy i have exact same ui

misty shuttle
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something weird going on with the action bars

cold escarp
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u mean the hidden binds?

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thats only thing

misty shuttle
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why are most spells doubled up next to each other? and tonnes of class abilities missing

cold escarp
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its macros of showtooltip to see cds better

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u have abilities that dont have cd so u can macro them with a showtooltip of a cooldown

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so cooldowns are easier to see

misty shuttle
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I see O.o

cold escarp
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dont bother with it if you're still learning

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its not mandatory

misty shuttle
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oh well I use TellMeWhen or weakauras for timers I wanna see

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if I'm brand new to druid pvp and probably gonna be doing RGBs more than anything else, what do you think you would recommend?

cold escarp
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you mean like a spec?

misty shuttle
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yah

cold escarp
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balance druid

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actually depends what you enjoy

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caster or melee or tank

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or healer

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thats whats great in druid u can play any role u like

clear pulsar
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I need a good looking font for my game @vestal citrus

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Tired of using Ubuntu Regular

tawny inlet
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Idea;

"Make Gladiator Sanctum (Garrison building) have its achievements and item progression, be achieveable outside Draenor"
(while obviously not having its combat passives)

misty shuttle
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ok ty

clear pulsar
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Acc presidency is tiny tho

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I have a bunch of fonts added

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Thru sharedmedia

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Just cant pick one

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Maybe I should go full Akro

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Akro fonts built diff

cold escarp
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using anything other than default unbearable

clear pulsar
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Maybe time to go back to default

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Good ole friz qt

cold escarp
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default + classic damage numbers

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= goat

rigid linden
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Smh glyph

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I had work off today hehe

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Brisbane gang

misty shuttle
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folks, as a balance druid, I really like mastery but the guides seem to say haste is prio on almost everything over mastery, thoughts?

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I've got 15% for both currently

atomic galleon
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can anyone tell me if its possible to make a rootbeam macro where solar beam doesn't cast if you're not in range to cast mass entangle?

cold escarp
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not possible to check range with macros

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just play a bit and you will get the feel for the range

sleek raven
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If i Hit 30% versa should i Go enchants With haste? (Heal Druid)

misty shuttle
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what is dreambinder?

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also, would you normally dot people up and starfall in RBGs or focus fire on single targets?

foggy ravine
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Yes dots but starsurges not starfall, starfall pads meters starsurge gets kills, also use cyclone i between bursts

misty shuttle
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great stuff

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was worried about dots breaking other people's CC

rigid linden
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im coming along well

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20 renown in a day

misty shuttle
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seeing a lot of necro druids in pvp

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thought I was menna go NF ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

clear pulsar
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NF is a pve covenant that's playable in pvp

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It's only the best for FCing

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For druid

misty shuttle
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darn it

green valve
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Kinda peeved honor gear is gonna be gated behind renown again

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Youre gonna be a month into s2 still rocking s1 duelist gear

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Cmon man you gotta rngvweapon for 3 weeks

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Before you buy anything

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I mean its fine since were 226

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But like the dude whos like what 207-213 is fed for like 2-3 weeks

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Imagine not having a clean slate in a new season gg wp blizz

rigid linden
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@vestal citrus lfr on my main feral

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and i got like

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7/10 renown

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wtf

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i did it on my alt ages ago and got 2

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LOL

rigid linden
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we did it bois

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one day

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renown 30

lime light
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lol

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took me 3 weeks almost

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but i log for 2 hrs per week maybe

rigid linden
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yeah i only log weekends

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decided to just fk it yolo today

junior plover
sleek raven
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is there an addon thats Play Sound if Someone Cast Spells eg polymorph

lime light
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yes

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gladiatorlosSA

sleek raven
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ok

junior plover
magic dagger
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Does anyone else get their strength of wild talent constant dissapearing from their bar?

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Other pvp talents are fine

honest mesa
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How does mindgames interact with druid hots

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If i have a ton of hots on my teammate and i get mindgames, they deal damage or nah?

junior plover
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Good question

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I would assume hots applied before mindgames don't

neon rover
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I have a macro to cancel all hots if i can't dispel, your partner should have that too

honest mesa
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So hots applied before mindgames do damage?

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Seems like they do, thx bois

inner parcel
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Is there a general playstyle guide or writeup about jungle (necro/BM) somewhere?

swift hornet
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cc healer run down one dps

gloomy token
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hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form

small storm
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hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form

harsh jasper
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hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form

viscid remnant
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hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form

junior plover
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hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form

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In all seriousness it's just

/cast [<whatever target u want>] Wild Charge
tardy hare
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Wow thats epic

junior plover
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Never thought of making that tbh

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It does seem quite epic

silent bridge
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You guys running SotF or roar on feral?

lime light
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Got the macro for a while

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Mostly made IT to get traps

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Or run like a bitch in s4

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When destrotank poped infernals

wise valley
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@silent bridge pvp talents?

lime light
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@silent bridge sotf

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But if u necro, savage is viable

wise valley
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Wtf yall don't take incwrn?

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Damn I been outta the feral game too long

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Life is just too good as a guardian

junior plover
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Incarn is useless

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It's a bad shadowmeld

wise valley
junior plover
junior plover
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Roar pretty useless

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Wait

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That's not what sotf means

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I'm dumbo

wise valley
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Yeah I'm confused

junior plover
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Yeah sotf

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Sotf is the talent on the incarn row yes

wise valley
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Is it sotf or sotf?

junior plover
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And savage roar i was thinking the root removing roar

wise valley
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Stampeding roar or sumthn

junior plover
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Yee

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My point stands tho

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Roar useless

sly marsh
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even on necro?

junior plover
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Haven't seen anyone play with it

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Haven't necrod myself yet

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Snapshotting roar bleeds could be good

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But probably energy starved as fuck

sly marsh
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hmm

lime light
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Roar is giid

sly marsh
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maybe need cat eye for that

lime light
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Good

junior plover
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No way u can run necro w/o draught

wise valley
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Cat eye means no draught

junior plover
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Cat eye Kyrian roar

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Is something i was interested in

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But never tried

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Sounds good

sly marsh
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oh right, draught

wise valley
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Oh right, the murders

junior plover
sly marsh
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Lol

wise valley
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Its an old meme but it chex out

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@clear pulsar skip to 3.30

green valve
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anyone play rogue in here

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setting up my sin alt and is there any time id kidney shot from stealth instead of cheap

cold escarp
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shadowlands is dead

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go to arenamate and check top ladder

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majority of ppl havent qued in a month+

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if even the most hardcore players quit

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its telling

slim spire
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U always mfd kidney from stealth

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Or garrotte first if theyโ€™re a caster

green valve
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aight no doubt

lime light
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@sly marsh sorry but the person in your Avatar is girl or boy

sly marsh
unkempt scroll
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Lol

tiny tusk
lime light
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Was a real question

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No flame

junior plover
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games that have players want to try them will have more googles

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than games people have previously played

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regardless of if they are currently playing

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stuff like that

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or its copium

small storm
mighty raft
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Which lego is best for rbgs? BOAT or timeworn? I'm conflicted lol.

lime light
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Still dont know if its dude or babe

sly marsh
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lmao relax

junior plover
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horny ruski

sly marsh
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dm me if you really gotta know

junior plover
sly marsh
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leave these people alone

junior plover
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SLIDING IN DEM DMS

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What a pro

lime light
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I jsut need to know

sly marsh
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Iโ€™ll tell you for $5

junior plover
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El Patron is a crazy old man

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dont worry about him

lime light
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First rule of the ruler

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Dont make el Padrino angry

slender heron
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ThErE cAn OnLy Be OnE kInG

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@lime light

junior plover
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brb calling @clear pulsar to put el ruski in his place

lime light
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U think the dirty brazol can do anything vs me

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Think again

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We won in Grunwald vs brazil

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We won ww2 vs brazil

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Nothing can stop me

green valve
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do you guys put lone empowerment with tigers fury?

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so you have it every other press

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also i kinda hate feral frenzy

lime light
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No

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Tf is good to fast shifting sometimes

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But overall if u lazy degan

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Go for IT

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Not a big deal

clear pulsar
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You guys make a mess of this channel while I'm in class

wise valley
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@sly marsh looks like a hot trap tbh

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If I'm judging by the pfl

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Pfp

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@junior plover I was linking the time stamp xus he made a Brazilian joke

junior plover
junior plover
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no reason not to

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lone emp on tf is def worse

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sometimes u wanna tf without lone emp but you never wanna lone emp without tf

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ah u wanted to save a bind

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ye u can go for it lose fast shifts but thats bout it

green valve
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yea ive literally never played feral before but i rnged a weapon

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so

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fuck it

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its like jumping into a parallel universe from boomie lol

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like blizz

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wtf does feral need 47 generators

clear pulsar
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It has as many as boomie

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Actually

wise valley
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Wtf is lone empowerment

wispy socket
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can yall point me to some good resources for feral pvp? anyone here know?

obtuse ice
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๐Ÿ“Œ

wispy socket
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ugh its the very first one ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

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thank you

obtuse ice
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No problem, feel free to ask here if you have more specific questions.

clear pulsar
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A dozen streamers linked in the 2nd pin too

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Some more helpful than others

wispy socket
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i read through some of the wowhead stuff but not sure if ive seen this yet

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okay cool thank you

green valve
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Do i clearcast shreds or brutal slashes?

junior plover
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shreds

obtuse ice
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Why would you cast BrS on over Shred on CC ?

junior plover
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in general

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brs is more damage

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but you cant have 100% brs uptime

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so its better to just get the inevitable shred for free

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rather than pay for it in 2 globals

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if you're gonna kill someone in 3 globals

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yeah just brs

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but otherwise shred shred shred

lime light
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@wispy socket if u need anything just Ask around

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We are like a family here

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๐Ÿ˜‹

wispy socket
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by clearcast you just mean like, procc'd right

green valve
green valve
wispy socket
obtuse ice
obtuse ice
lime light
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@obtuse ice dont be rude pls :)

obtuse ice
stray sigil
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relax kids

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papa here now

lime light
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Papa rat

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Murican hotdof

green valve
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Yo deadass some hotdogs on the grill with some kraut sounds mad good for lunch good looks

deep mulch
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new -ish to pvp
rogues are the bane of my existence
I've read where a moonfire can stop a "sap and cap" rogue from going back into stealth - is that true? and would any dot do? e.g. fury of elune

green valve
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How you getting sapped in stealth?

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If youre sitting a flag stay stealthed rogue will usually bomb + cap, interrupt theyll either blind or kidney and try again just interrupt after kidney or trink blind

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They leave just restealth, rinse repeat

wise valley
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mf doesnt stop vanish anymore

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no dots do

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lol

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i like rogues not being a problem but sometimes a problem

green valve
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Feel like necro sin is gonna be absolute bonkers in 9.1 tho

wise valley
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sin arcane rmp

green valve
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60-70% ms on 25 sec cd and 5 charges of aoe bone spikes

wise valley
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big thinkin apes

green valve
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Flat out dead every kidney

wise valley
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we see if it go lives

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goes live

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damn im high af

green valve
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Dont even need cross cc if youre healing at 30% power

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Throw in a high winds clone

wise valley
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pretzles

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pretzels?

clear pulsar
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It's 40% ms @green valve

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar

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log in pls

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i just need atank

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HELP A BROTHER OUT

clear pulsar
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I'm playing cs

stray sigil
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bruhj

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PLES

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THERE IS N OTANKS

green valve
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100% shouldn't but who knows anymore

placid arch
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What are pvp stats for resto and balance?

signal rivet
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Haste versa

placid arch
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oh haste

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so i fcked up buying all mastery gear

clear pulsar
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It's fine esp for balance

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But you really want the most haste you can as resto

placid arch
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k

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i have 11%

kindred swift
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Hey, playing bear in RBG's, is it worth it for me to drop 7 points in ilvl and about 6k hp to increase my vers from 11% to 21%?

wise valley
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yeah

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imo

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thats fat vers

kindred swift
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I'm just only 1600 right now so i cant buff gear past 213 lol. I have full mythic raid gear but I have to drop to 216 overall ilvl for vers on all my pieces

clear pulsar
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6k hp in bear?

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Definitely not

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You're dropping 10% of your hp for 5% less damage taken

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Like

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Not to mention the armor you're dropping

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You should drop ilvl for the conquest rings and necklace if your highest ilvl ones dont have vers

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar how bad is other side

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i assume its one of the worst is it

clear pulsar
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It's a tight timer cuz almost all the bosses are phase based

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So like

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First and last boss are a lot of extra time if you don't do them within 2 barriers / 1 portal phase

tough bluff
#

so is necro strongest for feral arena 3v3 now? is the ST pressure that good? is it constant uptime on pressure pretty much? it was what i wanted to run at launch but ended up going soemthing else cuz it didnt seem very strong

rigid linden
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From playing it yesterday for the first time

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It's noticeable

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No idea how or why

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But shit dies

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And I don't even have draught yet

misty cobalt
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Why does frenzyband suck so much

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It doesnt synergize with bleeds

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?

tight jasper
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Only drop ilvl with neck and rings for versa

misty cobalt
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Draught of deep focus is best right?

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With necrolord?

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The miestro

haughty compass
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Feral bigger brain than balance

clear pulsar
# misty cobalt It doesnt synergize with bleeds

Dot damage doesnt add to Frenzyband, only direct damage. It also behaves like Ignite where it isnt affected by modifiers since it's just damage based on how much your other spells did, that means adaptive swarm doesnt buff it, it doesnt directly scale with secondary stats

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It indiretly scales with stuff thaf buff your shred damage, or other builders of course

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And it's an ok legendary for pve

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But this isnt pve channel

green valve
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PUMPED dmg

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Died horribly

clear pulsar
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The first 1s of FF is just direct hits

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The cp build thing are direct hits

misty cobalt
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So frenzyband is absolute dogshit

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Good to know

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Draught of focus it is

clear pulsar
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Yeah it's kinda worthless in pvp, it's only any good in pve because Convoke dumps a bunch of Shreds

pallid coral
clear pulsar
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Good point, I was a big proponent of 'spam rake over shred with swarm and draught'

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One sec

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Yeah but

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Damage in a go

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The only buff that snapshots is TF