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All the Chinese lads love playing bm hunters and prot pallies cant even count how many of them I saw while queuing up in the morning lol
are there any particularly good resto pvp resources outside of icyveins and streamers? any video/written guides people found particularly in-depth and helpful to them for climbing?
No china bois in eu
Damn idk then.
we get a decent amount of em on NA on illidan server
how do u lose to bm hunter
Yo, so i have been doing some 3s with an arms warrior, with me playing feral and we normally play with disc/hpala. We normally win games, but the hard exception are these melee cleave comps. Arms+ret, Arms+Frostdk, Arms+WW are the worst ones. I was wondering if anyone has some solid tips on how to deal with these. We have about 34k hp and like 28% versa for reference, but it seems like every time we meet them, they just outdps us hard cause a lot of the time we meet 40k hp enemies. We have tried rooting and running from dk, cleaving back and just trying to cc them whenever DR falls off on them, but its been no use. Im expecting me to be the kill target, but most of the time they just bumrush the arms warrior and i cant do much to save him. Does anyone know what to do, cause im genuinely bafffled.
sounds like you get outgeared
keep grinding and get your gear it will get easier
but still feral +arms is not a great comp into melee cleaves you will have to outplay them to win
if u getting cleaved hard
go for their healer
not to rly kill him, but make them confused what to do
and lower their cleave pressure
if they are going on u, just run kite whole game
till they get borred
HOOOOOW DO U LOSE
HooowWWW00WW
its top 0.5% lmao
yeye
not that i care
2250 is getting up there
but thats not the reason
ofc 90% of the wow community
plays the best class
possible
its if u cant win them
join them
and they cant win vs bm or arms
so they play it themself
arms dont seems to be that super crazy, till u play with a disc priest
or holy maybe too
shouldnt u kill enemy healers in mind gams convoke every time?
cheers for the answers, i was hoping it wouldnt be that we are getting outgeared, but oh well, guess we do some twos as arms resto
it should be not allowed to face arms as disc
holy priests cant really survive burst after guardian
but guardian is 1 min cd
just pop it and its 3 min
fade
cross cc?
you cant kill healer because warriors hold berserker rage
???
cross cc the pets?
yes?
tried
doesnt help much
i have 80% win rate vs holy priest bm at 2400
arms wise, prolly chase the healer whole game
almost never works
and when it works
hunter is only in cc for a chastise
cuz no fear for him
oh well feral convoke is trash then i guess
boomy convoke kills both pets and healer after too
x)
Stop bully
is it rdru meta?
Convoke doesnt kill rdru through whi
in 2s it is
yeah we kill rdruids by non stop train and ignore hunter
and holy priest
when is fleshcraft getting fixed btw
u dont have to bleed
in 2s its broken
u can chase them to africa
80% dampen suddenly dudes cast a 25k shield
with bm
worst thing i saw
resto shaman who pops earth ele
and battlemaster trinket
was like 33k shield
For necroferal do I want circle or draught?
draught yes
draught
Bro
u play without a covenant
ofc its bad
lmao
for kyrian maybe
what cov is witohut cov
try killing the pet with convoke then?
whats the weapon enchant for resto druid? ;d
Tried but its also iffy
since theres 2
theres like a 40% chance of success

The real pets the one with all the dumb buffs
Kill that one its a pia having to manually target it
Trueee
Killing a bm pet on my demo lock gave me covid
No he just feels sick killing another man's significant other
Being a pet man himself
not true
there is a big difference between demo lock and bm hunter
bm hunter loves his pets
they are best friends forever
and demo lock force his pet
to be with him
they hate each other
convoke usable for ferals pvp?
yes
how useable compared to necro?
About tree fiddy

Convoke = good
Kyrian = better
Necro = dream
its good enough that it's still periodically picked over necro/kyrian even in AWC
altho rarely since 9.0.5
You wont
big shields and survive
big disgrace
thats why i play 25% mastery and convoke
BIG DISGRACE
Venthyr is the most alpha
You're so confident you literally play a covenant that fucks you up
So you give enemies a better chance
true
Yes but
i gotta get keystone master
and all that

just cant be bothered
convoke bite...how does that work? it use combo points?
but u dont have any 15 timed KID @junior plover
how that work, when standard bite cant be used without any cp o.0
so i think i can manage
necro or poosey
It just does
if you roll a bite
its a 50 energy 5cp bite
in terms of damage
ah ok
thats how its coded
its like it shoots starsurge without wasting astral power
or does heals without spending mana
starsurge I can get, but bite has a scaling component (energy + cp)
yeah they just coded it manually to do max cp dmg
sick
what happens in an arena skirmish when it's a 1v1 and the player on your team leaves? do you still get honor for losing?
the player that's alive in the 1v1 leaves*
is fel rush doing 10k crits intended design?
i wonder when is our wild charge gonna do 10k 
DH = good
ah, because they pay for boost, gotcha "broke"

i meet braindead dhs at 2.4k
cause that class requires 4 fingers to do good
every ability has dmg baked into it
stun? also does dmg
dash? also does dmg
dh is rly good for 2s
not rly broken, but good
and idk what to feel about using mobility for dmg
at least they have to choose
damgur or mobility
and its first ixpac, where u can kill dh
BROKE
Maim
if u cast vs dh u already lost
they smart they play with holy priest
sorry i play good spec
if u think u lose vs a player just because of a spec, the issue isnt with the spec, its cuz u give up before trying :p
true unless its bm
no its not just good
they do 3k dps
all game
highest dmg class in pvp in my experience
ok other than ret but ret cant connect to anything so
thats true
but just dont play caster
and smash them
its ez

holy shit how i didnt think of that
but actually we lose cause pala goes oom
el padrino
and dh is unkillable
chief rocka
el ruski
nether walk
yes
never heard of such thing
dh dies in one stun
playing caster from birth till death
adhoc out of awc didnt know till now 
did u try pressing convoke
CONVOKE AFTER NETHER WALK
You should honestly play
dh broke dont care
BIG setup

Normally id say no bully
but hes a boomkin
his boomkin name is kinda cringey

its my mage name
perfect
google my name
Google my name
ofc
too roleplayish
good name for egirl
love me some RP
nah thats just tryhard to be funny name
NO VASELINE
brb checking if thats free
IS A GOOD NAME
fair enough
just call yourself owl in spanish or something
thats a good boomie name
or u call yourself rozkurwiator

TRUE
nah that sucks
my names legit af
RP names = good
funny names was funny 10 years ago
now its all overused cringy jokes
Tian begs to be banned I swear
how come

erp is okay
Wait nvm did adhoc qualify
good times in goldshire
tegridy
Feral going to be bis next patch
the day feral is good is the day i quit this game tbh
its like bm hunter
when its good its oppressive
talkin about bad decisions, if everything is so messed up, why u keep playing it, literally got a negative comment to everything brought up xD
im addicted

also i dont push anymore cause bm hunters exist
i just play alts right now
BEST DESIGN
....so u think dh is op....but u say u play on alts....then play a dh? problem solved?
all im saying here is tongue in cheek
that might happen
|| after they remove convoke ||
well probably not consistently, but still high potential
Lmao
My guy's all bark no bite
pog we play on same server
im unrated, but sure, im also at lvl 57 atm
ive spent so much time ganking in bastion lmao
im pretty sure he said he played 2s around 2.5
ye
i peak cr at like 2450? i think
but was 2550 mmr
stopped pushing cuz bms
stop stalking my page
three fiddy
Hydra not playing with ruskis anymore?
they got knocked early no?
hmm
well he is washed
so i get why they kick him
all he does is play viewer 2s and tbc
LMAO
nice rack
crack
he is washed
lmao still the best priest after meh to log retail
but he is washed
sure
ofc he cant play any other healer
but so the ruskis cant play any 2nd character properly
washed af
u are a rat
Hydra not playing no
if el patron calls u a rat then ur a rat
The priest they're playing with on live is the healer signed up with their team @lime light
Altho he's a pala main
he was playing only rmpala
last ssn
dont know this mage
looks like big multiclasser
Bicmex and rat signed up too
thug cant win
It can ofc
If you have best hunter world
Maldiva playing relegation cup with BR ret
Best ret world tbh
Then next time they face each other
Whaazz goes warrior
Scared of the rogue v rogue

why u are toxic towards best player world
FOTM reroller more like
I only respect players that stick to their guns
Cassidy never played rmp in tournaments like tony
think he did
FRENCH OPICE
didnt pikaboo play monk in some AWC games?
Well pikaboo is retired from competition
He only uses the AWC for stream advertising now

thats what happens when AWC pays less than below avg streaming career
@tiny oar prot pallie is trash now tho?
is convoke nerfed in arenas?
nerfed in pvp
Not in any meaningful way
doesnt do full moons
But yes
are u in combat
were u in moonkin form when u pressed it?
and in boomy form
yup
was ur target in root or any cc that can break on dmg?
I did root + solar
well there you go
ok ty
convoke doesnt hit targets that are in cc that can break on dmg
Noob druid question. I'm putting together a guardian for my pvp team. I'm about to close on the conq to buy my weapon. I run Balance most of the time / only need to guardian on FC maps really, how important would the 46 agi be on the 2h polearm vs. getting int and just losing that 46 agi on the occasions I'm running guardian?
might aswell just boomy fc
Anyone else's omnibar not working
Hi fellow droods, can anyone recommend between Niya and Dreamweaver for rated PVP?
Niyas offensives are good but the Pod from Dreamweaver seems too good to ignore
pod is bad once u start meeting competent players
and also its playing around dying which u shouldnt do
thanks!
check the pinned messages for more info
Check something about instance type or when to load, it's a new tab in the settings from shadowlands update
Last one to the right
Thanks!
Snupy is a good one to watch too
Of the tourney/multirank1 ferals
playing jungle
ty
hard to work out what's happening when I can't read it :/
and all his spells are covered
well he is r*ssian
yeah I got that ^^
looking to pick up some tips and to see if I fancy trying pvp as feral
hard to see what he's using
for me its easy i have exact same ui
something weird going on with the action bars
why are most spells doubled up next to each other? and tonnes of class abilities missing
its macros of showtooltip to see cds better
u have abilities that dont have cd so u can macro them with a showtooltip of a cooldown
so cooldowns are easier to see
I see O.o
oh well I use TellMeWhen or weakauras for timers I wanna see
if I'm brand new to druid pvp and probably gonna be doing RGBs more than anything else, what do you think you would recommend?
you mean like a spec?
yah
balance druid
actually depends what you enjoy
caster or melee or tank
or healer
thats whats great in druid u can play any role u like
I need a good looking font for my game @vestal citrus
Tired of using Ubuntu Regular

Idea;
"Make Gladiator Sanctum (Garrison building) have its achievements and item progression, be achieveable outside Draenor"
(while obviously not having its combat passives)
ok ty
Acc presidency is tiny tho
I have a bunch of fonts added
Thru sharedmedia
Just cant pick one

Maybe I should go full Akro
Akro fonts built diff
using anything other than default 
folks, as a balance druid, I really like mastery but the guides seem to say haste is prio on almost everything over mastery, thoughts?
I've got 15% for both currently
can anyone tell me if its possible to make a rootbeam macro where solar beam doesn't cast if you're not in range to cast mass entangle?
not possible to check range with macros
just play a bit and you will get the feel for the range
If i Hit 30% versa should i Go enchants With haste? (Heal Druid)
what is dreambinder?
also, would you normally dot people up and starfall in RBGs or focus fire on single targets?
Yes dots but starsurges not starfall, starfall pads meters starsurge gets kills, also use cyclone i between bursts
NF is a pve covenant that's playable in pvp
It's only the best for FCing
For druid
darn it
Kinda peeved honor gear is gonna be gated behind renown again
Youre gonna be a month into s2 still rocking s1 duelist gear
Cmon man you gotta rngvweapon for 3 weeks
Before you buy anything
I mean its fine since were 226
But like the dude whos like what 207-213 is fed for like 2-3 weeks
Imagine not having a clean slate in a new season gg wp blizz
@vestal citrus lfr on my main feral
and i got like
7/10 renown
wtf
i did it on my alt ages ago and got 2
LOL
Could probably make a weakauras
is there an addon thats Play Sound if Someone Cast Spells eg polymorph
ok

Does anyone else get their strength of wild talent constant dissapearing from their bar?
Other pvp talents are fine
How does mindgames interact with druid hots
If i have a ton of hots on my teammate and i get mindgames, they deal damage or nah?
I have a macro to cancel all hots if i can't dispel, your partner should have that too
Is there a general playstyle guide or writeup about jungle (necro/BM) somewhere?
cc healer run down one dps
hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form
hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form
hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form
hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form
hey lads anyone got a macro for wild charge to ally regardless of form
In all seriousness it's just
/cast [<whatever target u want>] Wild Charge
Wow thats epic
You guys running SotF or roar on feral?
Got the macro for a while
Mostly made IT to get traps
Or run like a bitch in s4
When destrotank poped infernals
@silent bridge pvp talents?
Wtf yall don't take incwrn?
Damn I been outta the feral game too long
Life is just too good as a guardian


Sotf is so good I take it over fero wound most games
Roar pretty useless
Wait
That's not what sotf means
I'm dumbo
Yeah I'm confused
Stampeding roar or sumthn
even on necro?
Haven't seen anyone play with it
Haven't necrod myself yet
Snapshotting roar bleeds could be good
But probably energy starved as fuck
hmm
Roar is giid
maybe need cat eye for that
Good
No way u can run necro w/o draught
Cat eye means no draught
Cat eye Kyrian roar
Is something i was interested in
But never tried
Sounds good
oh right, draught
Oh right, the murders

Lol
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@clear pulsar skip to 3.30
anyone play rogue in here
setting up my sin alt and is there any time id kidney shot from stealth instead of cheap
shadowlands is dead
go to arenamate and check top ladder
majority of ppl havent qued in a month+
if even the most hardcore players quit
its telling
Why would u cheap from stealth
U always mfd kidney from stealth
Or garrotte first if theyโre a caster
aight no doubt
@sly marsh sorry but the person in your Avatar is girl or boy

Lol

google trends not super accurate
games that have players want to try them will have more googles
than games people have previously played
regardless of if they are currently playing
stuff like that

or its copium

Which lego is best for rbgs? BOAT or timeworn? I'm conflicted lol.
Still dont know if its dude or babe
lmao relax
horny ruski
dm me if you really gotta know

leave these people alone
I jsut need to know
Iโll tell you for $5
U think the dirty brazol can do anything vs me
Think again
We won in Grunwald vs brazil
We won ww2 vs brazil
Nothing can stop me
do you guys put lone empowerment with tigers fury?
so you have it every other press
also i kinda hate feral frenzy
No
Tf is good to fast shifting sometimes
But overall if u lazy degan
Go for IT
Not a big deal
@sly marsh looks like a hot trap tbh
If I'm judging by the pfl
Pfp
@junior plover I was linking the time stamp xus he made a Brazilian joke
i dont think thats true
put TF on Lone Emp
no reason not to
lone emp on tf is def worse
sometimes u wanna tf without lone emp but you never wanna lone emp without tf
ah u wanted to save a bind
ye u can go for it lose fast shifts but thats bout it
yea ive literally never played feral before but i rnged a weapon
so
fuck it
its like jumping into a parallel universe from boomie lol
like blizz
wtf does feral need 47 generators
Wtf is lone empowerment
can yall point me to some good resources for feral pvp? anyone here know?
๐
No problem, feel free to ask here if you have more specific questions.
i read through some of the wowhead stuff but not sure if ive seen this yet
okay cool thank you
Do i clearcast shreds or brutal slashes?
shreds
Why would you cast BrS on over Shred on CC ?
in general
brs is more damage
but you cant have 100% brs uptime
so its better to just get the inevitable shred for free
rather than pay for it in 2 globals
if you're gonna kill someone in 3 globals
yeah just brs
but otherwise shred shred shred
by clearcast you just mean like, procc'd right
Because ive been a feral main for 7 minutes
Yea the cool looking brambles proc thing
lmfao
Except ure the adopted one
It's raw energy gain so if you're in lack you should shred otherwise BrS
@obtuse ice dont be rude pls :)
Not rude
Yo deadass some hotdogs on the grill with some kraut sounds mad good for lunch good looks
new -ish to pvp
rogues are the bane of my existence
I've read where a moonfire can stop a "sap and cap" rogue from going back into stealth - is that true? and would any dot do? e.g. fury of elune
How you getting sapped in stealth?
If youre sitting a flag stay stealthed rogue will usually bomb + cap, interrupt theyll either blind or kidney and try again just interrupt after kidney or trink blind
They leave just restealth, rinse repeat
mf doesnt stop vanish anymore
no dots do
lol
i like rogues not being a problem but sometimes a problem
Feel like necro sin is gonna be absolute bonkers in 9.1 tho
sin arcane rmp
60-70% ms on 25 sec cd and 5 charges of aoe bone spikes
big thinkin apes
Flat out dead every kidney
I'm playing cs
Its stacking with wound on ptr
100% shouldn't but who knows anymore
What are pvp stats for resto and balance?
Haste versa
Hey, playing bear in RBG's, is it worth it for me to drop 7 points in ilvl and about 6k hp to increase my vers from 11% to 21%?
I'm just only 1600 right now so i cant buff gear past 213 lol. I have full mythic raid gear but I have to drop to 216 overall ilvl for vers on all my pieces
6k hp in bear?
Definitely not
You're dropping 10% of your hp for 5% less damage taken
Like
Not to mention the armor you're dropping
You should drop ilvl for the conquest rings and necklace if your highest ilvl ones dont have vers
It's a tight timer cuz almost all the bosses are phase based
So like
First and last boss are a lot of extra time if you don't do them within 2 barriers / 1 portal phase
so is necro strongest for feral arena 3v3 now? is the ST pressure that good? is it constant uptime on pressure pretty much? it was what i wanted to run at launch but ended up going soemthing else cuz it didnt seem very strong
From playing it yesterday for the first time
It's noticeable
No idea how or why
But shit dies
And I don't even have draught yet
Only drop ilvl with neck and rings for versa
Feral bigger brain than balance
Dot damage doesnt add to Frenzyband, only direct damage. It also behaves like Ignite where it isnt affected by modifiers since it's just damage based on how much your other spells did, that means adaptive swarm doesnt buff it, it doesnt directly scale with secondary stats
It indiretly scales with stuff thaf buff your shred damage, or other builders of course
And it's an ok legendary for pve
But this isnt pve channel
Definitely lol, i did a bunch of skirms with the rng weapon and the 12 minutes worth of knowledge i accumulated here
PUMPED dmg
Died horribly
Yeah it's kinda worthless in pvp, it's only any good in pve because Convoke dumps a bunch of Shreds
have you actually tested this btw? because stuff like direct damage of rake scales with adaptive








