pvp

[edgy shale]

egirls

[junior plover]

I thought it was the HOW DO U LOSE

For a sec lmao

[wise valley]

@clear pulsar

Answers for my cheetah problem s

U bamboozled me out of 150g

[clear pulsar]

Idk bro you just

Right click it then it's on the barber shop

It's definitely there

Maybe you need to

[junior plover]

Get glyph then barber

Yes

[clear pulsar]

Glyph fade

[junior plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDDpHG3qMI4

First 2 minutes man

That guy got to top 1% of 2v2 ladder

Rets are built different

Doesn't know to stun kill target

Can't make that shit up

[languid socket]

Guys I'm currently necro as I main resto. If I wanted to play all specs in arena and rbg would it be safe to go night fae to be competitive in all or is necro a must for resto and feral, with Boomie and guardian requiring night fae as a must?

[clear pulsar]

You can play necro anything

[wise valley]

Ur only held back by your limited view

[dusk escarp]

Boomie kyrian is better than convoke tbh

[gloomy token]

Necro boomy

[clear pulsar]

You can play night fae feral too, but for resto you'll be very lackluster as night fae

[dusk escarp]

Necrophiliacs in the chat am I right?

[clear pulsar]

@gloomy token dipi, a rank 1 / tournament boomie player is necro on both his 3.1k+ boomies

For the last month+

[gloomy token]

That's pretty pog tbh

[clear pulsar]

It's just damp

[gloomy token]

I take it back

Sorry for doubting you king

[clear pulsar]

You're just a gigantic livelord

[gloomy token]

Be invincible

Literally cannot die

[haughty compass]

Night fae forever

[junior plover]

Ye this is a big point

[haughty compass]

RP

[gloomy token]

Swerve storm bolts and kidney shots with ease

[junior plover]

U have no agency as necro boomie to end games

So u gotta rely on your partners

[gloomy token]

Miss me with that weak shit

[junior plover]

To stay alive n shit

[clear pulsar]

Yeah ofc, but if you're trying to play all specs, night fae as the catch all option doesnt work anymore for an answer when it's not bis for anything

[wise valley]

39k health feral just 1 shot my tank

[clear pulsar]

Night fae resto also definitely a bigger downgrade than necro boomie

[gloomy token]

Marileth the based god

[junior plover]

But Necro Boomie is definitely better than NF resto

And guardian covenant literally doesn't matter

Not a single bit

[wise valley]

Guardian convoke matters brk

[junior plover]

Its fucking rbg lmao you're afk 95% of the game

[wise valley]

Bro

[junior plover]

It's not gonna change your rating by more than 10 in 100 games

[wise valley]

You gotta add the razzle to the dazzle my man

[clear pulsar]

Guardian convoke doesnt matter but

Soulshape is insane

Honestly

[junior plover]

I agree it's great

[wise valley]

Also true

[clear pulsar]

It's so fucking cooked

[gloomy token]

Give em the flicc of da wrist

[wise valley]

The soul shape charge cc

Is nice af

[clear pulsar]

Guardians more slippery than dhs

[gloomy token]

Sprinkle that razzle dazzle on em

[junior plover]

But in rbg it just ain't the difference maker for winning or losing games

[wise valley]

Hit em wit da rose water

[junior plover]

Maybe on fc maps

[wise valley]

Splash splash bitch

[junior plover]

But that's comparatively rare

[wise valley]

Nah

[junior plover]

To playing arena where 1 kill ends the game

[wise valley]

Boomy aff convoke slaps

[junior plover]

And there's nonstop action

[wise valley]

Can ez pz turn the tide of a 2v1 cap

[junior plover]

I mean sure u kill that rogue once in a game with boomy convoke

So what

Game goes on

[wise valley]

Yeah

But flashier

[gloomy token]

Just fucking outlive the 2v1 easiest trade of my life

[junior plover]

True

[gloomy token]

Self swarm frenzied regen is ridiculous

[junior plover]

Anyone tested what happens on ptr if you drop from 51% to under 40% from a mindgames rocking the new niyah row?

Do u just die in 2 seconds

Or wat

With WHI ofc

[kindred monolith]

@vestal citrus would you still run draught as boomy for necro?

ah okay that makes sense

and what would be best place to put that legendary?

[clear pulsar]

Draught is dog for boomie lol

Only affects moonfire

[gloomy token]

Feral aff necro boomy draught the true god

[vagrant vigil]

doesnt work 😦

[daring hatch]

what about it does not work?

I always use /cast instead of /use unless it's an item, and put a space between the ] and the spell name

no idea if one of those are the issue, but hey

[vagrant vigil]

ill try this thank you

[dark jolt]

Opinions on High Wind change?

[junior plover]

Good for boomkin

No slot for feral

[dark jolt]

Resto?

[junior plover]

No clue

Maybe someone else will chip in

[lime light]

What's the change?

[fickle junco]

1800 in rbg is still low rating right?

[tardy hare]

Anything below number 1 is too low

[junior plover]

I mean if u can afford 2 slots as boomie then high winds seem insane now

U spend 0.7s to clone the healer

5s of cc + 30% healing reduc after

You can maybe even reclone

[lime light]

Idk if that's good change

Giving everyone mortal

Why

[junior plover]

So feral can be goated??

[lime light]

No, feral is big dam

Unhealable dam

Should be

Not mortal

Give big bleeders

Duże krwawienie

[junior plover]

Ye and mortal makes it unhealable

There's no reason for all melee not to have ms

It just reduces how many comps can be viable

Ret Feral gonna be goated

[cold escarp]

turns out they're not insta

if u got 2 stacks its 2 clones -50% each

[patent dove]

That makes it even better in my eyes

Clone one root another

[junior plover]

They're honestly fast enough they might as well be instant vs most melee

Unless you expect it there's a very low chance you can kick it if you aren't literally on top of the boomie

The main diff I suppose is that the healer can pre-pop a cooldown on the dps

[cold escarp]

with 22% haste my clone is 1.4 sec

so 0.7 ye its dec

actually thinking about it 0.7 is easy to kick

at least for ranged

melee only if ur on top of the boomy

it will help for my alt

which i run with 8% haste

[junior plover]

For ranged yeah

And since feral kick is kinda funky

It probably kicks too at max range

Even if u can't close the gap with it in time

[cold escarp]

ye it is

it kicks at max range

you can kick a monk sitting in a ring of peace

[junior plover]

But like

[cold escarp]

even tho it wont dash to him

[junior plover]

Reaction time and stufd

[cold escarp]

0.7 is plenty of time to react

[junior plover]

Not if you gotta run up

Otherwise yeah

[cold escarp]

anyway

it makes mastery stacking better so thats good

[junior plover]

Yeah the ring of peace interaction is goated

[cold escarp]

less relying on haste to get clones off

[junior plover]

[cold escarp]

im gonna stack the shit out of mastery in 9.1

30k surges here we go

[junior plover]

You're gonna eat shit vs caster cleaves

[cold escarp]

no cuz i play with ele and resto shamys

[junior plover]

Fair

[cold escarp]

double ground double shear is so aids

i love it

[junior plover]

Problem is if the melee never touch u

I don't touch a boomy

Sometimes kick

That's it

[cold escarp]

yeah true

[junior plover]

Next patch even more so

[cold escarp]

when i still played 3s

Month ago

no melee cleave ever went on me

they always train the ele

i might just drop the boomy and go arcane in 9.1 tho

if its viable

arcane its my fav spec

boomy close second

ye

why is boomy a druid spec

they need to make a new class with space theme

and stick boomy there

[junior plover]

Ele can't die

Idk why anyone would train ele

Astral Shift the most broken cooldown in the game

[cold escarp]

because if they free cast they just solokil

kill

[junior plover]

Nah u just kick lasso and decurse hex

not playing druid

Lmao?

We play kitty cleave and the amount of shamans that cast hex on cooldown and get reflected on it at least once per game

Just to have every other hex instantly decursed

Is fucking wild man

[cold escarp]

also why would u train a boomy

[junior plover]

Yeah idk

We train priest

In that one

[cold escarp]

but what if its 2 shamys

[junior plover]

Then I cry

Probably ele tho yeah

[cold escarp]

gonna level as arcane to see how it feels

i remember in bfa they made the spec so awkward

u had to get specific azerite powers just to make it have a proper rotation

and then azerite was removed did they bake the power into the spec?

probably not

[junior plover]

Press arcane blyat

Kill stuff

How difficult can it be

[cold escarp]

Yes.

[junior plover]

U Rolling one 0-60?

[cold escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674

ah no

i am leveling my old main

[junior plover]

HOOORDE

[cold escarp]

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Kazzak/Cryonix

this one

[junior plover]

Good

[cold escarp]

alliance in shadowlands is a dead faction

i wonder how they'll fix it

its probably causing a lot of ppl to unsub

ye

human sucks now tho

but dwarf nelf velf are all good

void elf warlock is underrated

u can put the racial then teleport and teleport back again

tegridy damp plays double void elf in AWC

[ebon vortex]

void elf also don't have casting pushback

plus that random 5% damage buff

[junior plover]

Human is alright

A lot of races are

They just aren't orc

And the nature of highly competitive environments is that all the best players will decide on one faction to play

So they can play with one another

It started off cuz of mythic raids and is now leaking to pvp

The faction system can work (and did work) in an rpg game but not in an arcade like modern wow

[viscid remnant]

human relent was rly nice in bfa

but shitty now

unforch

[obtuse ice]

Was op u mean

[junior plover]

Human relent is just meme orc lmao

[lime light]

What are u smoking

Human rele still rly strong

[junior plover]

It's good

But it ain't orc

Option to have 2 trinkets is nice tho

They always do it to me expecting convoke

[lime light]

Adoption human into jungle

Big pog

[junior plover]

Kitty time

[cold escarp]

good kitty

[wise valley]

Idk this feral burst is super cheese in low cr rbgs

Ff and convoke combo is insta kill

Btw that cheetah shit is bugged af i just removed all existing glyphs with vanishing powder(from my spellbook) and re bought cheetah mark

Still not shit except cat/bear form in barber

[junior plover]

Git gud

How can u play feral without cheetah

How

[wise valley]

I've used it since it was released until sl

[junior plover]

You are excused

[cold escarp]

storyline or threads of fate?

[patent dove]

threads of fate and dungeon spam = lv 60 in an afternoon

[cold escarp]

i am dps tho

arent ques long af?

[patent dove]

get a tank buddy

[cold escarp]

i have no friends

[junior plover]

ToF is good if you don't start it at 48

If you do it's hell

[cold escarp]

i leveled all my alts with story

but im so tired of it already

[junior plover]

I just do sidequests and a dungeon every now and then

In tof

Fuck world quests and objectives

Terrible xp/h

Maybe world quests but definitely not objectives

[cold escarp]

alright ty

[patent dove]

so sidequests while waiting for dungeon q is kinda ok exp wise

dungeon spam bests it, if you can manage to skip q time

[cold escarp]

legion sets are the best

and legion mount too

[junior plover]

Yeah dung spam is best

But i can't take queueing 10+ dungs in a row

It's not for me

[cold escarp]

same

dungeons are mind numbing

maybe if i watch a show on second monitor or something its tolerable

[velvet schooner]

i thought that was the only way

[tall knoll]

The annoying thing about threads of fate is, that all the objectives you get for leveling will stay there if you dont complete them... but yeah dungeon grind is the way to go

[wise valley]

Nah

Its faster doing questing with mining professions

And herb

I hit 51-57 in a casual day

Dungeons slow af once u get all them done

Threads of fate questing not the normal way

I was like 6 hours slower on my pala tank than on my mage because dungeon exp goes way down

The trick is to ignore zone objectives and only do wqs and centered quest hubs. Hit 60 with enough anima to upgrade instant when quests are unlocked and renown boost

[queen holly]

it takes 4 dungeons/lvl until like 56 or 57

then it's 5 and 6 for 59

you can blast that shit in 1hr/lvl until 58-59

[wise valley]

If ur rested

And ur getting 2.4k exp per herb and 10k per quest at rested

[queen holly]

i actually levelled my monk by herb mining

it certainly felt slower than dungeons

but maybe it's because i hate farming

i did the maldraxus route and that was mind numbing af

[wise valley]

U gotta have all pumpers if ur gonna grind

And a group who wants to skip

[queen holly]

idk when i leveled my pala it felt like 90% nw and you can pull that super fast

[wise valley]

My mage was like 2 days of playtime for 60 and not sweaty days

[queen holly]

done in <15 min even with afk pugs

as long as they don't fuck up the hook on 3rd boss

[clear pulsar]

If you have some gear from BFA you absolutely melt everything

If you don't, snag a friend who needs to farm renown for their new covenant

[sleek raven]

anoyone know how to show decimals on big debuff ?

[clear pulsar]

Maybe omnicc can help with that

@sleek raven

It can take a bit of work if you want to change only the bigdebuffs numbers

[green valve]

is warr boomie still good any of you playing it atm?

[blissful belfry]

The problem with war boomy is that you have to queue up with a warrior. and since they all have the IQ of dogs. Its cancerous

[cold escarp]

cause if they have a brain they'll que with a mage

[green valve]

lol

yea ive been playing with the warr since like tbc

hes good

[iron tulip]

is their any point in doing callings if you have all conduits to 200?

you cant get any higher ilvl than that right?

[clear pulsar]

Right

It's only for gold / rep

After that

[iron tulip]

ok thx

[clear pulsar]

Or renown catch up

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

[cold escarp]

i hope for you that you won this is a free game

[clear pulsar]

Ward + conc aura convokes tho

[junior plover]

Wouldve won but warrior got 2 globalled

from double convoke

or rather

1 globalled

from 2 boomies

double starsurge from both all crit lmao

[silver valve]

is Circle of life and death leggo okay for necro feral? or is draught just too good?

[junior plover]

draught >>

[lime light]

Circle makes u oom

All u gonna do is reapply blenders

[silver valve]

ahh that makes sense

thanks!

[clear pulsar]

Circle also means lower swarm uptime

[honest mesa]

Kiosk r u eu? Need big feral boy for my hpriest alt

[viscid remnant]

[clear pulsar]

Everybody just wanna q sketchy alts with kiosk

No one wants main push

Feelsbad

[lime light]

fok off kids

leave my boi alone

[blissful belfry]

I honestly feel like double boomy can be super potent to kill someone. Double naked convoke to get niya's grove invigoration and maybe bait a defensive or 2. then clone a deeps. root beam healer. carn triple surge from both boomy same time. Should hit a minimum of 30k + 28k + 25k

[gloomy nova]

Sure probably up to 1800 or so it might work. But convoke is shit against a decent team

[junior plover]

[junior plover]

i am but im pushing 2s rating

[clear pulsar]

Convoke is shit if you don't know how to get cross CC out

[gloomy nova]

Convoke is shit against decent players period

[lime light]

convoke is shit, if the convoke driver is shit

convoke is shit, if the convoke driver is shit

[junior plover]

Its not u just trade it for trinkets lmao

and get 30s of hooge mastery

get 1/2 spells out of it

its good

lmao was playing blade's edge

i convoke a guy

priest pulls him

i press wild charge

convoke kills mid air

i missed nf

[tender vigil]

So what covenant is good currently for feral in pvp? Tossed up between Kyrian & Necro atm

[cold escarp]

you NF kiosk?

[twilit siren]

not for pvp but callings can give you 203 bell

[clear pulsar]

Wrong chat?

[lime light]

all 3 covenants are good

[clear pulsar]

Oh

The question about clalings

[lime light]

avoid venthyr

[clear pulsar]

From a while ago

[vague mural]

crit vers + socket belt or haste vers no socket belt? same ilvl from vendor

feral necro

[clear pulsar]

Socket

[lime light]

socket

[cold escarp]

dont forget to grab your daisy in shop

free

[vague mural]

ight

[cold escarp]

[junior plover]

ye

for now

probably necro end of season

[cold escarp]

/beckon

thats the command do get daisy on your back

enjoy

[junior plover]

: O

u lied

WHYD U LIE

[cold escarp]

no look i posted a screenshot

[junior plover]

yes but u lied

[cold escarp]

you cant have her on back when you're cat form

ferals shafted once again

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

No ure lying

im troll form

[cold escarp]

click on her and type /beckon

[clear pulsar]

Kiosk didn't click on her

Bright cookie

[junior plover]

Bro i dont even know where she is

but tell me

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

WHERES SHE

pls tell me

Not in my pet journal thats for sure

oh the shop

[clear pulsar]

@junior plover

UK english built diff

[junior plover]

Ok maybe im a bit cracked

[limber bramble]

can i get CC while im in incarnation in Travel form with the legendary?

[cold escarp]

what did u not get here

[junior plover]

I didnt read that high

i just saw backpack sloth

[stray sigil]

thats one ugly ass mog

[cold escarp]

actually

its the legion boomy staff

and ur a feral

so 0/10

[junior plover]

dont care didnt ask

• youre a feral

[cold escarp]

do you ever feel insecure when you stand next to a bm hunter pet as feral?

[junior plover]

I feel superior

[clear pulsar]

@cold escarp i better not catch you rocking legion cat forms

[cold escarp]

not using them

also dont have them

playing druid for 4 months

[junior plover]

[wise valley]

Blue mage tower cat is the cleanest druid skin

[junior plover]

Black Ashemane

dont @ me

[green valve]

100% black ash

[clear pulsar]

Blue/white balance of power cat

Or the purple one too

GOAT tier

[wise valley]

Nightmare cat is good

Owlcat n2b

Class halls were so much better than covenant sactums

And whatever was in bfa cant even remember I had to be cooked everytime I played

Just like yall cooked for thinking blocky fur animation is better than mage tower

The hind quarters clip every stride

@cold escarp free?

[cold escarp]

$5 for a question

[wise valley]

Word

Until when?

[cold escarp]

this is the first expansion that i see duelists backepedaling

what gives

[green valve]

triune ward combust, 12 sec ult sac, condemn, convoke and rogue in general

[clear pulsar]

I think you just didnt play enough before then

Backpedaling warlocks were all over the glad+ queues

[cold escarp]

i did tho

not in bfa

but in legion wod i played

[green valve]

ya i skipped bfa too rip

[clear pulsar]

I wish I had too

[cold escarp]

1600 lets fucking goooooo

with 198 ilvl

[tardy hare]

i've seen backpeddling apes at 2.7

nothing new

[clear pulsar]

Yeah rose tinted glasses if anything

[tardy hare]

i mean with current RBGs

i see a fuckton

of clowns

with 2.4

imagine being 2.4 and only then learning why your fear is shorter after you've casted it on same target before

: )

[cold escarp]

RBG should get its own gear

tired of RBG dogs coming and ruining my alt's gearing experience

[tardy hare]

: )

[green valve]

we could only dream

they can share loot with m+ monkeys

[velvet schooner]

wdym ruining your alt gearing exp xD

[cold escarp]

i am on 1600 with 198 ilvl

and i run into ppl with 40k hp

bunch of dogs if u ask me

[fallow root]

I remember 14-1600 was so easy to get in 8.3 I got it at like a 450 ilvl when people were like 475. Now it’s like impossible

[clear pulsar]

450 vs 475 is the difference of one raid difficulty tho

It's not that big at all lol

It's like being 213 rn

Which is what 1600 gives

:)

[fallow root]

I’m 195 now and I have to play super careful or its 1 shot city

[cold escarp]

bfa had scaling

25 ilvl in pvp wasnt actually 25 like now

now if ur below 220 in high rate u auto lose

[clear pulsar]

Honor gear shouldn't be this upgrade bullshit

Honor gear shouldn't be this upgrade bullshit

At least for pvp itself like, you buy honor gear it should be straight 197 ilvl in pvp

[haughty compass]

Getting 1800 doesn’t feel that bad tbh. I’ve gotten it pretty quick on 4 chars. It’s the fucking honor after that

[fallow root]

Yeah but I’m not that good and I don’t have friends to play with

[cold escarp]

did u play with a full geared partner?

[fallow root]

All my friends play destiny

[cold escarp]

i play with another person who is fresh so we struggle pretty hard

and we're 2450 on mains

[haughty compass]

Both of those things mean you need to set your goals lower first lol

[clear pulsar]

That's what happens when you can only climb cuz you 2-shot people

The moment you don't outgear them you lose

[cold escarp]

just kick the convoke bro

[clear pulsar]

Just join some yolos and spam that shit bro

Tbh

[cold escarp]

whats a yolos

[clear pulsar]

No voice low cr rbg spam

[cold escarp]

oh yea for sure

[fallow root]

Yeah it’s like. I think PvP gear is good and but I kind of want scaling to come back, because it’s sucks that I’m all but barred from a form of content because I got a late start

[cold escarp]

pvp gear is good

just remove the upgrade bs

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

If this was really like wod

You'd get 197 straight away

With like, an intermediate set between 197 and 226

It feels a lifetime ago but

People deadass climbed hundreds of rating for free week 2 simply because they lucked out and got a weapon from vault

Warriors with weapons 20 ilvls higher than others

Or rets

Just free farming

[cold escarp]

i wouldnt even mind if it was 197 and 213

and just scale down pve gear to 213 inside pvp zones

this way pvers are happy their gear is better than pvp

and pvpers are happy

[haughty compass]

I was that guy. Moonkin priest 1900 week 2

[raven light]

anyone has a gif of the new resto pvp talent?

cant find one anywhere

[clear pulsar]

A gif?

It's just

Tranquility

It looks the same as tranquility

[raven light]

oh i saw something on twitter a few days ago

it was like an omega tranq spawning trees n shit

[clear pulsar]

That is a guardian pvp talent

[raven light]

ooooooooooh

mb lol

ty haha

[clear pulsar]

https://twitter.com/BigmoranIRL/status/1385020932163391490 is this what you saw? @raven light

Cuz that's fake

https://gyazo.com/7603621aa36f6d3795dacdc476c5d8ac this is what it looks like on PTR rn

[wise valley]

Lol that Twitter video looked fake af

Like ms paint color art

[edgy shale]

o shit, next patch vicious saddles useful again

[wise valley]

Mop leveling is top tier

Best gameplay in shadowlands

Soothing music good vibes

[edgy shale]

true mop zones are nice

[wise valley]

Damn league raised 7 million in charity

Wow did 1 million

Feels okay man

Dude jade forest and four winds are S tier zones. Super relaxing scenery and the mop quests had the best dialogud

[junior plover]

Why does alliance get war saber

its bis mount

always was

altho we get fox tbh

[clear pulsar]

Fox is both

[junior plover]

we get the red one

or is it same

IS IT SAME

[clear pulsar]

Why does alliance get an alliance race signature mount I wonder

[junior plover]

Bro

dont care didnt ask + youre alliance

gimme saber

[clear pulsar]

Horde fox isn't red

Just the armor

[junior plover]

Ye

But it looks real good

good mount for shadowlands s1 elite leather too

[clear pulsar]

Idk what color alli fox is, I'm on horde toon rn

[junior plover]

Not bad tbh

fits ally better

the horde one is literally vicious

love the eye

[simple lintel]

guys which covenant for beginner feral?

in pvp

[jade heart]

im a boomie main looking to craft a resto leggo to mess around with my brother and his friend in 3's - is verdant infusion the best choice?

[wise valley]

@simple lintel nf or kyrian prob

Can do necro for 3s but those 2 are easy buttons to press

[simple lintel]

i will be playing more 2s

with a resto sham that will probably carry me lol, im newb but been wanting to play it for fun

[clear pulsar]

Do you play anything else?

Like m+, maybe other specs!?

Kyrian is very basic, straight forward damage buff

And is good for balance as well, but bad for resto and bad for pve

Necro is a different setup that you run, adds Moonfire to your rotation, more maintenance heavy

It's good for resto, but bad for pve

Night fae is much better than those in pve

All 3 are good choices for feral pvp

Kyrian / Necro > Night Fae

[green valve]

Man somebody pin that shit

Well written logical to the point

Gj face youre a swell bro

[haughty compass]

Night fae is good for all specs in all content. Ez pick

[simple lintel]

tyvm @clear pulsar !!! ❤️

I play monk WW mainly but been wanting to go back to my feral which i don't touch

for like years

[clear pulsar]

Night fae resto is kinda trolling in arena

The only people who say it's good are people who never tried necro, it's good for stomping worse players in 2s tho and carrying friends I guess

[simple lintel]

I see, so I think I will go for now with NF so that I learn a little more about feral rotatations in pvp and get the feel of it

or should I go kyrian?

i will do 2s exclusiverly

[clear pulsar]

Both are fine, some people really like NF and find Kyrian boring

Since Kyrian is just a flat damage buff cooldown

Are you still leveling? You can test those in threads of fate and swap back and forth as much as you want before you're max level

[sly marsh]

convoke is more fun than kyrian imo and you can get it off more easily in 2s than 3s/RBGs

[haughty compass]

Kyrian is just not exciting for me

[sly marsh]

just my 2 cents

[clear pulsar]

Necro is goated

[haughty compass]

The leather elite set is fire next season

[wise valley]

Pic?

[green valve]

Theyre reskins of the base leggos lol

What u mean fire

[clear pulsar]

It means it looks good

Idiot

Sry I didnt mean it

[green valve]

Its k still <3 u

This show last kingdom is great

Thought it was a vikings ripoff you guys should watch this

[devout steppe]

is running feral affinity ideal for rdru in 2s?

[raven light]

FML LOL

[wise valley]

Last kingdom kinda cringe

[tiny oar]

Can play it either way feral aff rly nice for rake/maim clones and more dmg/ pressure overall or guardian for max pve heal damp lame shit if ur struggling against certain comps

I replied to the wrong fuking guy

[tiny oar]

See above ^

[tiny oar]

Did axtin make necro mainstream lol I been gone a few weeks

Wow necro ferals running around what a time to be alive

[haughty compass]

If ms goes live, feral will be the best melee

[devout steppe]

thank you! is that all you attack with, rake to get combo pts and then finish with maim?

[haughty compass]

Super strong offheals, cc and now mortal strike lol

We cats now

[tiny oar]

Ferals getting an MS??? no fucking WAY LMAO

[haughty compass]

Highly doubt it sticks tbh

[tiny oar]

Go for re's for rake stun> clones setups save combo points for either maim rip or bite on kill target depending on type of dmg u need / if another stuns available.

U should generally have enough energy to always swipe after rakes before cloning, and you can swipe cloned targets for more combo points overall too.

[clear pulsar]

Double ms

[clear pulsar]

It was really just tony and cassidy playing exclusively necro since 9.0.5

In the tournaments

MS doesn't stack

[devout steppe]

@tiny oar appreciate it! I know fuck all about healers these days lol. when would I use rip?

do I ever use shred?

after rake assuming?

[clear pulsar]

Oh high winds lol

Idk if that helps jungle all that much tho

[stray sigil]

who takes high wind

ll

[clear pulsar]

It's kind of autoloss vs melee cleaves and your clones are the only things they're gonna be kicking @vestal citrus

Insane for fmp tho

Or fps

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if they took out either the high winds heal reduc or the feral ms before patch goes live tho

[tiny oar]

Shred is more ST dmg but more energy so I would only use it on kill target whenever u have the globals for it/ if u have shit rdy for a rando swap on u, swipe is slightly more efficient combo point generator.

Rip is good rot dmg bite for burst if they're low as far as finishers go.

[devout steppe]

Dope! Thank you!

[clear pulsar]

But then again so many specs are getting absolutely cracked

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar can i not make a 60 boost on ptr to test shit ?

[devout steppe]

healing this expansion hasn't been fun

[covert chasm]

Idk if i wanna play boomer or kitty next season🧐

[misty cobalt]

What stats do u run on necro feral

I feel like stacking crit is stupid over mastery

[lime light]

U never did that kid

Versa by far

Then mastery by far

For any covenant

Then haste for necro

Or crit for kyrian or nf

You don't even have to do too much
You can turn me on with just a touch, baby

[misty cobalt]

?

[junior plover]

Yes

Crit is poop stat

[errant blaze]

Im seeing quite a few necro boomies going timeworn dreambinder, i kinda thought circle was better for necrolord?

Also seeing some going for the swiftmend one but i guess thats just cause they are resto mainspec i guess?

Its on murlok.io

https://murlok.io/character/eu/kazzak/lavonti/pvp

Ok 👍

Thank you

Yea i kinda figured 🙂

[junior plover]

Gimme mortal strike already

[warm orchid]

what comps are gonna be good for feral next patch?

[cold escarp]

ret + feral

enh + feral

[obtuse ice]

more than just jungle we hope

[cold escarp]

just imagining the off heals on those comps

its like playing vs 3 healers

[tardy hare]

Ret feral works

[warm orchid]

ok

[foggy ravine]

Triple feral

[obtuse ice]

^

[wise valley]

Shameless shill

[limber bramble]

some1 know guardian base def guide? sometimes i fail against stealth gankers. specially against rogues with smoke bomb. if they smokebomb can i chill in stealth and spam moonfire until smokebomb is done? or i will lose the base?

[wise valley]

Yeah

Just typhoon the smoke bomb

U can't hit mf even in the bomb iirc

I just typhoon from stealth

Typhoon>bark>incarn

U can incarn first and then bark outta of it to get them to use all ccs

Lotta rogues still throw blinds at sleeper druids lol

[foggy ravine]

smoke bomb = 5secodns cap = 6s just spam MF and you can spin them if they are solo

[lethal flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATf7VjB65dA&t=2s

[wise valley]

If you're out of smoke bomb range it won't work

@foggy ravine Lotta people sit max range in stealth and smoke bomb will cAp on that

It just takes practice and figuring out what the rogues style is like.

[tardy hare]

??

No?

You can max range, but you'll be fucked insta if they send 2

[tidal linden]

The only way smoke bomb should get a cap if they have a 2nd person who is capping and they smoke bomb after a second...

[tardy hare]

You can also just afk on top of flag

Press barkskin

Press incarn

Press barkskin again

Gg

You're now a minute further

Atleast

[tidal linden]

And someone should’ve rotated to help by then

[tardy hare]

Vs any person below 2.6k youre probably gonna get a couple of their ccs during incarn cause theyre hella dumb

Which gives you even more time

Realistically only thing you ever have to trinket

Is cyclone or blind

[tidal linden]

I’ve been able to mine an azerite node once because the rogue tried blinding during incarn and didn’t pay attention it didn’t work lol

[tardy hare]

Aye most of them throw a lot into incarn

Besides its hella fucking easy if ur a bear to cap on a rogue aswell

[lime light]

Friendly reminder, if u wrote one Word in this channel

U belong to me

Peasant

[surreal heron]

Quit it

[lime light]

That's the truth

[supple path]

Smoke Bomb lasts 5 seconds, Capping takes 6 seconds. This is terrible information.

[vocal geyser]

Is that real ?

[tardy hare]

Yes?

[neon rover]

What's the best legendary for Guardian in RBG?

[vocal geyser]

Depend on the map

[neon rover]

i'll give it a try next week when i swtich back to Fae

[tardy hare]

Sleeper

Sleeper

Every

Map

[limber bramble]

so this mean if rogue is solo he open with smokebomb i can relax and spam MF ? i everytime poop in my pants when i see rogue smokebomb and cap. i use sprint and risk to fuck up the base-.-

thx guys

[tardy hare]

yes

there is in reality no way a rogue can cap on you

at all

if he's alone

[limber bramble]

thx

[supple path]

Yes smoke bomb is a noob trap, stay max range and relax for 5 seconds.

[limber bramble]

some1 know addon or weakaura that show me the castbar of capping the flag?

[tardy hare]

can also just afk on top of the flag

no need to be max range at all unless you have no trinket and no barskin

[patent cipher]

Do you guys think 9.1 will change the tank/fc meta in rbgs? Or will guardian and DH still be the only real options

Guardian had some talent changes but I think they will still be top choice for most teams

[limber bramble]

if guardian dont lose incarnation legy he will stay best tank

[supple path]

Yes, as long as the meta is kiting as the FC. Other tanks cant compete with double jump or druid shapeshifting.

[quaint wraith]

Incarn legy with the new sleep pvp talent is gonna be wild for node defense

[clear pulsar]

Sleep breaks on damage tho

Eh you right

If you can use it in between

Getting hit

[idle thistle]

Hello friends, i play resto druid with my assa rogue friend. We are stuck 1900-2000 rating. We are currently struggling vs feral + holy priest and BM hunter + holy priest. Do u guys have any tips for us? Usually vs these comps my assa friend trains their healer, and i try to cc their dps as much as possible

[quaint wraith]

It’s like 8 second channel while incarn is down so it’s very doable to snake in and drop cd by a ton

[junior plover]

If you apply enough pressure to feral it'll slow the game down considerably

feral has to spend all globals on damage to get free regrowths and be able to stay on target

if theyre forced to go bear or simply not attack theyre falling behind

[idle thistle]

so instead of stun/clone on every dr i just pump him?

[junior plover]

honestly you could maybe try running draught and doubling down on the feral?

[lime light]

First of all

Hooow do u lose to feral

[junior plover]

how do you lose to rogue

[lime light]

Second u cant win vs vm

Bm

[junior plover]

Yeah honestly your comp probably has no options vs bm

its just disgustingly strong into you

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I don't think you have a shot vs bm

[idle thistle]

we have like 75 % win rate vs bm up to 2k, but they starting to get too good

[clear pulsar]

You'd probably find a better answer on ravenholdt tho

[junior plover]

feral is very good too but if you can pressure him off u might have a chance

[idle thistle]

so u recommend draught into feral teams, and i pump the target the rogue is not on while he keeps wound poison on both?

[junior plover]

I have no experience playing rdruid but I can tell you as feral that if you keep your bleeds + poisons rolling on him and just cc the healer off dr

he'll be forced to sit in bear a lot of the game

letting you get an edge in tempo and mana

i dont think theres much point to you bleeding the priest

[idle thistle]

nah i know

only time i bleed priest is when fear is down

vs convoke feral its no problem and i think draught is better, but i feel verdant infusion is almost a must vs necrolord cuz of their high sustain damage

[junior plover]

Necro is a bit different but the same principle applies

if you apply enough pressure to him

he cant pressure you back

reducing the damage you'll be taking

allowing you to heal

[idle thistle]

ok, cuz we watched some videos telling rogue to sit healer with 7 sec kidney

thats against holy priest, which every1 is playing in this bracket

maybe is better to train feral as u said

[junior plover]

Could work but your rogue dies on the 2nd chastise

or 3rd

he's dead in 1 go if no trinket

every time

[idle thistle]

i am good at pre bark him and keep hots up so he doesnt die until we oom

[junior plover]

Ah I see

[idle thistle]

like we usually go into deeep dampening where we should win, but frenzied regen keeps them living

[junior plover]

Hard to say in that case

[idle thistle]

i feel like its on me

[junior plover]

I'll tell you straight away that it's an incredibly easy matchup for the feral

in general

but I don't think it's unwinnable

[idle thistle]

cuz i relieve a lot of pressure from maim, bash and clones with high winds talent

deffo not unwinnable, i just want the script to win every time hahah

but i feel as u said, draught and keep wound on both

i train off target, rogue dots both

[junior plover]

Yeah try draught see how it goes

[idle thistle]

high winds or more damage with master shapeshifter?

[junior plover]

No clue tbh

[sick arrow]

using this weakaura to determine effective health wearing as much vers as possible doesn't give me almost any extra ehp, surprising https://wago.io/B1pg1fRub

my pvp gear is only 207 ofc but still, 10% vs 25% vers

[junior plover]

It's not surprising at all

dont downgrade ilvl for vers

it's foolish

and wrong

[clear pulsar]

Less HP will result in less EHP

Yes

[sick arrow]

people just make a big deal out of VERS %???

[junior plover]

Yes

I mean

207 with full vers vs 207 with 0 vers

the choice is obvious

that's why people ask

213 without vers or 207 with vers

virtually identical

[sick arrow]

true

[clear pulsar]

The only items that is really always worth using conquest ones

Are jewelry

Over no vers

[warm parcel]

any guardian RBG guides available, or do people just wing it ?

[sick arrow]

so for example, my 220 haste/mast neck - better to use 207 vers/haste one

[clear pulsar]

Yeah if it's the conquest one with 140 vers on it

[sick arrow]

ye

51k ehp now then, if not saccing ilvl for vers except in case of nonvers jewelry

19.4% vers

[clear pulsar]

Yeah see, so everything else will just drop your HP and primary stat for what is really 1, 1.5% vers, half of that being DR

[sick arrow]

got you, thanks, weakauras like this are so helpful for cutting through the bs and the stat fixation lol

specific stat fixation i should say

[lime light]

There is one thing u can do vs bm

Blind Hunter possible clone or Bash healer

[sick arrow]

any tips for playing with a warrior in 2v2 as resto?

[lime light]

And kill the pet with vendetta

[haughty compass]

Man my team mates are gone. The guardian dream might have to be real

Pug rbg / m+ life

[lime light]

Overall rogue druid is not good in this ssn, cuz druid advantage is getting restealth rakes

And maims

But good rogue gonna flame u, of u dr his shit

Before a go

So vs bm best u can do, is hit the pet = pet not gonna kite, but u have to deal with double healing on it

[sick arrow]

Is there anyone here that offers coaching?

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

I'd get coached by face

[clear pulsar]

I'd get coached by kiosk

[junior plover]

U wanna tank rating this badly?

[clear pulsar]

Generally in wow terminology people call 'coaching' what is really getting carried by someone better playing with you and trying to help you get rating
But if you want people to review vods and point out your mistakes, people here can help out, altho we are rare on resto players these days

[junior plover]

Yeah if you have a game where you feel like you played perfectly and still lost

bring it here

people will be quick to tell u why u suck

it can be a lot of help if you feel like youve hit a wall

[sick arrow]

@clear pulsar i mean watching me and giving feedback etc

not carrying or teaming with me

lol this is what i mean

[clear pulsar]

Yeah lfg is completely stupid

[junior plover]

Yeah people are cracked

tell him 25

wear 20

[clear pulsar]

I refuse to 'link vers' when I sign up for rbgs

If someone sees I'm over 226 and doesn't invite me cuz he's afraid I have low vers

I don't wanna play with them

[sick arrow]

it's even worse when it's totally broken english scandies and germans.. and the worst part is i am lfg as in ive listed a group and they whisper me interviewing me

[junior plover]

[sick arrow]

like at the end of the day bear in mind im 1450/1500 at best right now

i don't think a few % vers is what's going to dictate things

[junior plover]

If youre around 220 at 1450

you'll be more than fine

[clear pulsar]

Yeah like

Vers is a very good secondary

But mastery is a bit more healing for instance

So like

You aren't just wearing fewer secondary stats

By having a bit lower vers than they'd like

You have more of others

[junior plover]

For dps players technically less vers means their healers have to spend more mana and casts to heal them

marginally more

but for a healer

[clear pulsar]

And the difference between 20 and 25% vers is literally 3% less damage taken

[junior plover]

it doesnt matter

[clear pulsar]

But they think you'll melt cuz of that

[junior plover]

the other 2ndary will buff your selfhealing

offset it

[clear pulsar]

Also bro

Torghie as necro

Isn't very pog for feral but it's very pog for resto

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

Get one or two of the draught powers + draught leggo

Bosses melt

[junior plover]

Fuckin resto outperforming real kitty again

9.1 meta solved

[clear pulsar]

[sick arrow]

also what in the name of god is with nonenglish greetings on eu servers these days they've just made things up that are completely removed from all known language

"qq" and "plop" as greetings

what

[junior plover]

o/ is good

[sick arrow]

that has a meaning though

plop

what the fuck

[clear pulsar]

Ahoy partners

[junior plover]

yeah

ghurgh fellas

[clear pulsar]

Horde druid been sitting at 198 ilvl for weeks

No energy to play undergeared shit

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

And over 5k soul ash cuz no gold on this server to buy leggo armor

[junior plover]

I hit 60 with priest

never logged again

and im definitely not gonna log it in 9.1

maybe in 3 seasons they do some catchup so i can play

[cold escarp]

there will be catchup in s2

honor gear will be same ilvl as current duelist gear

thats your catch up

[green valve]

At least it gives you stuff to farm

They used to give you like a 2 week pre season start to farm honor gear

My only question is will it be the exact same honor costs on upgrades?

[clear pulsar]

Honor gear that takes 90k honor to fully upgrade will be 223 ilvl*

FTFY

Catch up XD

[junior plover]

Yeah after I get 60 renown

I'll be outgeared by people at 1.2k even more so than I would be now

or the same

but 40 more renown to grind

[cold escarp]

they'll make soemthing

start at renown 40 or something

[junior plover]

Idk Im not holding out hope

I was before they added the gear to ptr

[cold escarp]

remember artifact weapon levels

they just straight up removed the whole knowledge thing at some point

[clear pulsar]

They'll let you buy renown with anima

[cold escarp]

i think same will happen with renown

[junior plover]

They'll increase renown gain and call it a day

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

it'll still be 60 dungeons or more

renown is fine as long as there isn't meaningful player power behind it

[clear pulsar]

You'll also have twice the campaign to get thru