pvp

[lime light]

no joke

[junior plover]

I used to be Mid Nidalee main

before it got reworked

in like s3

and then udyr all the way

8 years and counting

[cold escarp]

that rework is ass

[junior plover]

nah its goood

just idk

UDYR

[cold escarp]

have u seen what they did to my boy mundo?

turned him into anime character

[lime light]

i was playing all mid and jungle classes in meta

[quick nebula]

when was mundo changed?

[lime light]

decent top/ good support

[cold escarp]

fw months ago

[junior plover]

Also Udyr is viable in competitive for the first time in 10 years and hes next to be reworked lmao

[lime light]

but i was the worst adc

in the world

[junior plover]

no Mundo is only concept art

[lime light]

could only play corki

[junior plover]

for now

early designs

[cold escarp]

oh

well those designs suck

[junior plover]

[junior plover]

Not even an adc anymore

[cold escarp]

soulless

[junior plover]

They changed the hair

because people complained

so u should be happy probably

[cold escarp]

still an anime game

so i hate it

[junior plover]

[lime light]

personally, most fun in the game i had with kha zix with maramune

and vlad overall

[junior plover]

Most fun I had was feral flare udyr

s4?

s3?

[cold escarp]

i mained tank rengar in s3

[lime light]

riven and lee was also decent

[cold escarp]

most toxic shit ever

[quick nebula]

boys is there any chance feral catches a buff in 9.1?

[lime light]

no

[junior plover]

Probably not

[quick nebula]

i dont wanna be a meta boomy

[junior plover]

its forgotten spec

but feral is

like top 3 melee

top 4

[cold escarp]

feral is equal if not better than boomy rn

why would u not play feral

[quick nebula]

idk im looking to switch off my sub rogue main

[cold escarp]

so play feral

[quick nebula]

would feral be a good option?

[cold escarp]

jungle and fmp are s tier comps

[lime light]

fmp isnt s tier lmao

[junior plover]

fmp is alright

[lime light]

bm hpriest jungle is

[junior plover]

kitty too

[cold escarp]

its played a lot in awc

[lime light]

u dont have to do anything

[cold escarp]

id say its S tier

[quick nebula]

ngl i would want to do a burst build, and not rot comps

[junior plover]

nah

its barely played

[lime light]

its not played in awc at all

[junior plover]

like 3 games total probably

[lime light]

fmp is not even a tier

[junior plover]

fmp is good

but not that good

[cold escarp]

last time boomy won a game in AWC was january

[junior plover]

jungle is bonkers

also feral/hpriest is great in 2s

[lime light]

hooow do u lose as bm jungle

hooow

u legit sit in bear form as feral

and dont do anything

shill super hard

games are carried by pets

just make rw party 1 2

[quick nebula]

what healer for jungle?

[lime light]

and rw the main pet

hpriest or disc

[junior plover]

maybe mw in 9.1

tbh

[quick nebula]

i did start a MW, but i feel like WW would be more fun?

[lime light]

mw gonna be good in jungle

[cold escarp]

depends what role u wanna play lol

[lime light]

only if its super op

[thorn copper]

First time poster, been playing some balance and wondering how to kite monks and warriors, seems harder than ever. Any tips would be great

[lime light]

tank damgur in bear form

[cold escarp]

dont

dont listen to this feral scum

[lime light]

run with them to the pillar

[cold escarp]

best tip vs warriors

typhon + wild charge backwards same time = out of condemn range

and always kite out of condemn range

that combo requires a bit of practice but once u nail it warrior never reach u

[thorn copper]

oh will try that, thanks @cold escarp

[gloomy nova]

100% listen to what @cold escarp said there. Plus keeping your range will make u able to shift to bear on charges/storm bolt because u will see it coming.

[lime light]

tank in bear form, thorns on cd, let your 2nd caster do the pump

[gloomy nova]

@lime light is either trolling or have no fking idea what hes talking about

[sick arrow]

hi can anyone recommend a good 3v3 composition as rdruid?

[cold escarp]

mage spriest druid

[lime light]

sp affi

[junior plover]

anything really

with a caster

[sick arrow]

thank you, just so i understand what makes those comps preferable over others?

like what is it about rdruid that complements that

[junior plover]

monk was hitting me in stun

with thorns

lmao

20k in 2s

[junior plover]

Rdruid doesnt have great throughput which melee classes usually need to stay on target

casters who can kite pair much nicer

[cold escarp]

kiosk when we gonna do the spriest boomy dream

r1 push

[lime light]

thorns have internal cd

after they released the spell in legion

and first few days ww monks were insta dying

when using fists into it

[junior plover]

i really dont wanna do the gearing man

me and my healer are smurfing and we're still barely pushing 1.8k with a warrior

cuz he dies instantly every game

and does half my damage

at 207 ilvl

its wack

213*

[clear pulsar]

@sick arrow rdru's strength is that it can provide a lot of control and create space for your team by dumping mana and spam drinking
Both of those require your team to also demand attention, so usually you see rdru play with casters, mage / spr / lock / ele combos. They control the positioning of melees so you can restealth and get stuff done.

[cold escarp]

yeah i know the pain

maybe in s2 then

im trying to gear my alt boomy for a week

only like 2500 conq so far

too lazy to sit in LFG

just joined some group in LFG

healer got no lego no enchants

this is gonna be fun

[sick arrow]

thank you guys that makes sense

[junior plover]

took 22k from condemns in 2 globals

lmao

[cold escarp]

shouldve los it

[junior plover]

healer damagur

this game man

[blissful belfry]

i know man, so absurd

i got hit for 18.5k once

[haughty compass]

Oh y’all haven’t been one shot by a Venthyr hpal?

[junior plover]

I was aware its high dps

i didnt think i'd die while using all defensives and a trinket

before i could even soulshape out of ashen hollow

[blissful belfry]

i faced a fire-ret-hpal. Fire did a lucky frost nova out of stealth and revealed me. i got HoJ, ret pops cd, i trinket. HoJ again dr. Barkskin at 100%. Die before i unstun. the ret did 0 dmg to me. HoW for 17k. Some other weird dam from the hpal. was it a big dam judge and a holy shock? Mage did the rest

[junior plover]

[blissful belfry]

Imagine doing a ook ook all in combo and not telling your ret pal who's your target

AND STILL GETTING THE KILL

in retrospec. i fucking suck

i confess

Speaking of ook ook combo. I stumbled upon quite a few fucking braindead rogue who just open my friend with evasion and cloak right off the bat + smoke bomb. Like, dont ya wanna save something for later chum?

the evasion open tilts me a bit cuz i used to always rake stun rogues start

[cold escarp]

man if i was good at video editing

i have so many clips of 1200 ppl doing funny 1200 stuff

ppl still dont know what is podtender

they just look at it

[edgy shale]

u can still stun a rogue in evasion no? just stand behind them

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but you have no reliable way of hitting them from behind since wild charge isn't instant movement

[green valve]

whoa just fought a glad necro boomie in skirms

is MY NECRO BOOMIE DREAM REAL?

[blissful belfry]

prolly just a resto main that went boomy in skirmies for fun

[green valve]

caps

damn

still dead aight

[cold escarp]

it will never live cause we arent dot spec

dont even have dot protection

adaptive swarm just gets dispelled

[clear pulsar]

Dipii has been necro on his main and alt

For a few weeks now

Idk if he's queued as necro

[cold escarp]

maybe with warlock?

[clear pulsar]

@fallow sedge do you happen to know? If dipii's queued as necro boomie or just rerolled for shits and hasn't actually played it in 3s!?

[cold escarp]

last time he que as boomy 9 aug

april

i mean

with mage priest

[green valve]

wait

so the new niya sb

is well honed instincts

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[green valve]

sick

oh wait im kyrian

rip

[last frigate]

You guys think Boat will still be the go to legendary in 9.1 ?

[quick nebula]

No

[last frigate]

Yeah was fun while it lasted 🙂

[modest cobalt]

What is our strongest damaging ability as a resto druid? I should keep Moonfire up at all times?

[fallow sedge]

@clear pulsar no idea, i think chanimals likes necro boomie too

[junior plover]

anyone played necro kitty cleave?

im wondering if its even better than nf

probably is

[bronze wolf]

People who play rdruid in 3s do you use some mastery to combat some of the burst dmg

[clear pulsar]

Chanimal liking necro isn't surprising

C9 lives and dies by the damp

[green valve]

They feed off it

Makes them stronger

[fair zinc]

I happen to know. I watch his steams. He gone necro on his alt druid and played SP/balance/rsham using circle of life and death with max haste very successfully (to 3150 or so I believe). It happened after 9.0.5 gone live and fleshcraft got buffed. This combo seems to have very good pressure and is capable of running healers out of mana / winning in dampening.

[green valve]

NECRO BOOMIES

[tight valve]

any of yall swapped from boomy to feral? how did you find it? they seem pretty strong

[foggy ravine]

I mostly play resto but from what I’ve played I’ve enjoyed feral more than boomy

[tight valve]

I suppose theyd be fun in arena but i dont think youd get into many RBG groups

[foggy ravine]

Oh ya if you wanna play rbgs you are only getting groups as guardian or boomy lol

Rbg boomy is fun

[haughty compass]

Night fae forever

[tight valve]

I regret changing to Kyrian

But I havent got the Kyrian leggo yet

[haughty compass]

I put too much into my sanctum. I’m a filthy casual forever duelist

[tight valve]

I wonder whats involved in changing back :p

[misty cobalt]

What is the best feral necro legendary?

[tight valve]

Might see how the patch plays out tho

[misty cobalt]

Frenzyband vs eye of fearful symmetry

[foggy ravine]

Symmetry for kyrian and NF, drayght for necro

[modest cobalt]

Thoughts on using Feral Affinity VS ww or sub playing with a priest in 2s? as rdruid warr

[bright cloud]

@fair zinc whats dipii’s stream? Can’t seem to find it

[misty cobalt]

If ur necro do u wAnt a mastery + haste build?

For maximum bleeds?

Or do u still wsnt crit

[green valve]

Just use boat

If you dont have binder

Still great as kyrian

[tight valve]

yeah okay, ill give it a go

I've been 60 for two weeks so only got like 2500 dust haha and obviously needing 2 balance leggos 1 guardian leggo 1 resto leggo 1 feral leggo 😄

[dusk escarp]

You only need BOAT for current balance. 9.1 that might change

[inner panther]

Bear form like crazy

[inner panther]

Its the only safe one but if you see a chance catweave and ferocious bite em

[keen phoenix]

Are there any resources for bear RBG?

[chilly cradle]

there is people who can gives some tips for up in boomy? I'm a beginner with it 🙂

i never know when conovk etc...

[obtuse ice]

Hi @chilly cradle I can not give you tips but I can recommand to watch stream of Boomie player in the 📌; this could help you first.

[lime light]

Do big dam and dont die

Convoke when enemy kicks are down, and u are far away

[summer cliff]

Feral Necro: Verse > Mastery > Haste > Crit

Correct?

[chilly cradle]

ty @obtuse ice

[ionic tangle]

Hi everyone! Just joined the server. I have a bunch of questions about boomies.

1. stats: i am night fae. Is the prio still versa>mastery>haste>crit?

2. is there anyone that can help me improving my dps? I think, for my ilvl and exp, it is lower the expectations (have played a warrior for the entire season, moved to boomie a month ago)

[tall knoll]

Mastery or haste is both fine as secondary after vers. Its a preference thing. Mastery means bigger convoke and starsurge damage. Haste means faster clones, globals etc

What are you playing? Arena or rbgs. Double dps 2s or 3s with a healer? Really depends

[ionic tangle]

I do play mostly rbgs, almost 1800. Sometimes arenas 2s for fast conquest cap, ignoring rating.

Would you go all in on mastery/haste, or would you try to balance it?

[cold escarp]

its still not set in stone some ppl play mastery some haste some half half

the safe pick is haste

disagree

i made an alt full mastery and i like the big dick surges

maybe it depends what comp u play

i play with ele so we just sit back and pve

[fresh tangle]

Hi guys few questions please.

Firstly what's the best way/add-on to track your hots in arena? I feel the hots on the raid frames are so small I can barely see them.

Secondly, I play necrolord as I main resto and do some feral but also Wana try Boomie. Anyone recommend a good build for 2s and some good partners?

Thanks

[cold escarp]

not relying on convoke tbh

often killing with just regular eclipse into 3 surges with ele lining up his dmg

[ionic tangle]

What if i am looking for the best rbg setup? I don't really care arenas

We play with 2 boomies, and usually i am the first one to move to help bases.

So everyone's saying haste>mastery? Atm i have 29% versa, 19% mastery, 7% haste

Another problem i am facing is the loss of dmg during the rbg. Usually i do tons of dmg the very first 2 teamfights, then my sustain goes down. I should put out different numbers compared to other same-geared boomies

Ofc not, it's more a team play instead of big numbers dps kills. But, assuming we are playing well doing the right strategy and fulfill our roles, more dmg will be helpful for sure!

[tall knoll]

In my regular rbg group im the only boomie. So i usually cover bases, help the rogue to ninja cap a base, help out at a base if someone needs help etc.
If thats the case for you as well, then dont worry about dps numbers at the end of it.
If you have 2 boomies then theres nothing wrong with one of them going full aoe team damage to oom the enemy healers. It really depends on your comp and the map

[ionic tangle]

I usually play mid in bases bgs, and go for incs to our flags. We have a feral and a rogue, so i am not really into ninjacapping unless it's super required. In ctf i am in the offensive group to go and kill efc, and in those bgs i have difficulties doing tons of dmg to the efc

[tardy hare]

full aoe hella useless

[tall knoll]

Ive never really tried it out but might as well get a warlock then i guess.

I also just focus down the target thats called with some surges, dotting and getting asp back

[tardy hare]

should have lock for perma slow already anyway

[sick arrow]

Hey any advice on whether I should value ilvl/stam/int, or max out on vers, or some combination? Playing god comp in 3s and usually with an arms or a warlock in 2v2

37.1k in the first pic, 34.6k in the second

[clear pulsar]

Generally speaking don't drop more than 7 ilvls or so on armor pieces for vers. For jewelry, the conquest neck and rings are worth wearing always regardless of item level, since they don't have primary stat but have a very high amount of vers.

[sick arrow]

My 223 and 226 rings have vers i think, not on atm to check

[clear pulsar]

On the small pieces like bracers and cloak it's maybe good to drop up to 13 ilvls

[junior plover]

Yeah generally within 7 ilvls it really doesn't matter

you can pick whichever

but dont drop lower

[clear pulsar]

Also your mog is very ugly pls fix

[patent rain]

how did you make 119% movement speed

is it with tertiary from gear

[junior plover]

necro has movespeed

[obtuse ice]

I like it you just have bad tastes

[junior plover]

also

how do you lose as bm jungle

hoooooooow

legit went from one of the harder comps for ladder to a brainded zugzug

[obtuse ice]

bcz hp drops to 0

[junior plover]

ye enemy hp

[obtuse ice]

yours if u lose

[junior plover]

ye but u dont

bm jungle kinda op

[cold escarp]

bm is op

its the new warrior

any dps + bm + heal = good

[junior plover]

just give me a bm hunter with half a brain

i'll be 3k in no time

thanks

[junior plover]

but yeah i agree

idk about any dps

but cupid cleave is also wild

on ladder

[cold escarp]

the fuck is cupid cleave

[clear pulsar]

Ret hunter!?

[glossy vigil]

Thats PHP

[clear pulsar]

It's as well known of a name as jungle

Everyone knows what cupid is lol even if you call it PHP

[junior plover]

Some people are new dont bully

hunter was nonexistent outside of jungle for 90% of this season

and a lot of people joined this season

[quick nebula]

id say most people dont know the dumb acronyms tbh

[cold escarp]

never heard it being called cupid

php is way simpler

[junior plover]

ive only ever heard of its as cupid lmao

face should bully me for not knowing php tbh

[clear pulsar]

I see it called php in group finder once a month maybe

It's always cupid bro I swear

Or just 'ret hunter'

[junior plover]

I hate php but not for wow reasons

now for wow reasons too

php is for pala hunter priest?

if yes then even more reason to call it cupid cuz rdruid is a thing

[cold escarp]

back when this comp just started it wasnt working with druid

[junior plover]

yeah I can imagine

[cold escarp]

back in the old days u couldnt just put a healer into any comp

[junior plover]

theres a balance to strike between these naming conventions

cupid works if healer meta shifts

php you can decypher

by class names

[green valve]

Its cupid

Ive never heard php

[clear pulsar]

For acronyms to work ret has to be R

Why use the same letter for 2 diff classes

In the same comp no less

If I didnt know it was ret hunter I'd think it's spr hunter disc

[green valve]

Truth

These new age mfers tryina change our comps

[wise valley]

The 3 toed ghetto shuffle cleave

[covert chasm]

Hello! Can anyone name any boomy streamer?

[clear pulsar]

There are like 10 in the pins

:)

[pliant trout]

The pins can

[covert chasm]

Thank you

[cold escarp]

Php is the original name tho

[sick arrow]

hey sure let me change my xmog based on someone on the internet

[wise valley]

Hes right

Mog is trash

[clear pulsar]

I do let you

Cheers

[wise valley]

We here at pvp channel lift each other up and don't let our bros fight with ugly mogs

You should drop that pirate hat and get a strap chest and tribal boe green pants

Keep the shoulders and a big staff

[junior plover]

TRUTH

[green valve]

Plus its too close to phd

Pally hunter dk

[blissful belfry]

Never heard php once in my life

Its cupid cmon

[cold escarp]

it was php in wotlk

[tardy hare]

Php all the way

[wise valley]

Rampaging taco cleave

[sterile swift]

how hard is it to grind out 2.1k RBGs as a bear 😮

[teal hinge]

Easy

[hardy cargo]

Shouldn't be that hard, bear is laughably easy to play.

Hard part is finding competent groups.

[wise valley]

Okay how do I get cheetah form back

It ain't working

[teal hinge]

You have to do quests and become trusted by the cheetah again

[clear pulsar]

@wise valley it's in the barber shop

If it's not there then buy it on the AH again

But it's mark and not glyph now

Mark of the cheetah

[smoky needle]

lmao

[lime light]

I leave IT here and meld prowl

[clear pulsar]

NOOOOOO

That's fake right?

That is so fucked up

[ebon vortex]

nah thats not real

[clear pulsar]

It is an uncategorized spell that was added in 9.1 PTR

The pvp talent in-game is still the same as now

[ebon vortex]

oh yeah

https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=352998/slaughterhouse

[clear pulsar]

But that spell is real as in it exists in the files and was added in the current PTR

[ebon vortex]

fury viable pog

that would be so fucking busted lmfao

[lime light]

Biggest tunnel one guy spec in the game inc

[green valve]

Lmfao

Its fine they have dogshot defensives

Enraged regen is literally the worst cd in game

[ebon vortex]

i mean a constant 60% healing reduction would be insane

[green valve]

Oh theyd prob nerf it to half in pvp but u right thatd be stupid

[clear pulsar]

It's a pvp talent

Doesn't make much sense to have it be one value on the tooltip then nerfed in pvp

!?

[green valve]

I dk man its blizzard

[random cypress]

Whats the recommended pvp guardian guide/ressources?

[wise valley]

Lotta whack work

U equip sleeper leggo

And u apply to groups and get in and win

[proven wave]

Flap around too

[random cypress]

Sounds solid

[desert mantle]

My flag was ninja'ed when I looked the other way for 5 seconds as a bear the other day and I felt shame

[random cypress]

Still hat a second to charge then. Shame you should feel indeed

[jade heart]

what's the go to resto leggo for 3s? my druid is my alt boomie but my buddies want to play some 3's, gonna be playing rdru/ret/dk

plan on making a r1 leggo for the 3s and farm the rest of my conquest i need for boomie gear playing with them

[ashen smelt]

Pretty sure 3s still uses VI

[orchid badge]

If I want to use Berserk with my openers in 2s, where in the opener should I do it? Doing Prowl into Rake, Rip, TF, FF, FB. Night Fae with Sym.

[cold escarp]

why are some ppl with full gear at 1400 rate

and good players too

do they just tank to fuck wit alts

[smoky needle]

I have 226 gear and I'm 1400 rating

pve gear though lol

[cold escarp]

how are u not climbing then

[smoky needle]

idk. I just join yolo rgbs

just need the honor

[cold escarp]

i mean arenas

not rbgs

rbgs is different story

[smoky needle]

oh

is tank good in arenas?

[tardy hare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/212658070986162188/834522642798870618/39b72de40b1d795253d83cf9c3a68124.png

[cold escarp]

no idea

[tardy hare]

Play till lose

Kappa

[smoky needle]

oh nvm. I thought this meant literally a tank spec in arena lol

[tardy hare]

Negative

[smoky needle]

ty

[pallid coral]

huh

feral gets MS

Wicked Claws Name changed from "Rip and Tear" to "Wicked Claws". Instantly applies Rake and Rip to the target Infected Wounds can now stack up to 2 times, and reduces 12% of all healing received by the target per stack. Infected Wounds can now also be applied from Rip

[clear pulsar]

Everyone gets mortal strike

[cold escarp]

where do you see this

[grand mesa]

Fury got it too

[cold escarp]

oh theres new ptr okay

[pale field]

this looks pretty strong hey?

[random patrol]

can use moonfire in bear form with celestial guardian now

[cold escarp]

yeah thats fuckin solid actually

[clear pulsar]

This is good too

Changing it to buff the initial heal

Which is the part that matters

[gloomy token]

Yo we get healing reduction that seems pog

[clear pulsar]

Yeah now we are one of 12 dps specs htat get it

Sorry only 11

[gloomy token]

Doesn't that open up comps for us tho or am i tripping

[junior plover]

WHAT

LMAO

[clear pulsar]

Ret is quite a high bro

[junior plover]

still won

cuz it was in 2v3

but still

the fuck

[clear pulsar]

Boomie gets instant cyclones btw

If you train them

I guess

[pale field]

was that a pvp talent?

[junior plover]

damn

[cold escarp]

wtf

thats broken

[junior plover]

thats actually insane

[cold escarp]

that on top of being able to farm astral while in bear form

good stuf

that was big issue against cleave

u sit in bear forever then when u get chance to do dmg u have low astral so ur fucked

[clear pulsar]

This also means we get a 40% slow rather than 20%

@junior plover

LEDGE AND DAIRY

[cold escarp]

Owlkin Adept (New) Owlkin Frenzy reduces the cast time of your next Cyclone or Entangling Roots by 50% and can stack up to 2 times. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. Requires Druid. Requires level 10.

I think it will be 2 stacks each reduce by 50%

not 1 clone reduced by 100%

just the way its worded

[clear pulsar]

That's literally how every other talent that makes a spell instant is worded

[cold escarp]

u sure?

thats so broken

why would they do that

[clear pulsar]

For instance

Idk they're throwing a bunch of broken shit at the wall

Frost mage, mistweaver, etc

[void nimbus]

So, Feral gets access to to the 30% healing received reduction and High Winds for 30% less healing done - does that matter?

[clear pulsar]

It opens up more comps, I don't think it's a strict buff

[cold escarp]

both are pvp talents so u will have to give up soemthing else to grab both

[clear pulsar]

Feral pvp talents are really competitive for spots

[void nimbus]

Yeah deff'

[tulip falcon]

hm

[clear pulsar]

LOTP, SOTW, Fero wound, Thorns, High Winds, new MS

[junior plover]

HAHAHAHA

[tulip falcon]

these be looking nice

[junior plover]

wait

whatd we get

link link linkj

[grand mesa]

Mortal strike

[clear pulsar]

Infect wounds lowers healing received by 12%, stacks twice

Pvp talent

[junior plover]

Bro

necro druid

[cold escarp]

rip and tear was so stupid im glad its gone

[junior plover]

is broken

???

[cold escarp]

laziest design ever

[surreal elbow]

i like it

mortal strike on ferals huehuehue

[clear pulsar]

Yes I am the huehuehue master

[junior plover]

does ms usually stack with other ms

[tulip falcon]

how much is infected wound slow atm

20%?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[surreal elbow]

is lotp and fero wound stil 100% locked in?

when the new shit comes

[tulip falcon]

40% slow lul

[clear pulsar]

@junior plover MS doesnt stack, only the highest effect is taken into account.

[cold escarp]

Tricks of the Trade (Assassination, Outlaw, Subtlety) Increases the target's damage by 15%, and Redirects all threat you cause to the targeted party or raid member, beginning with your next damaging attack within the next 30 sec and lasting 6 sec.

[clear pulsar]

Like slows

[cold escarp]

tricks is back to old

[junior plover]

I figured

[cold escarp]

mage rogue buff

[junior plover]

wanted to ask because assa rogues get a stacking one now

[clear pulsar]

This was a pvp talent for outlaw for the last 5 years

[cold escarp]

and now its for everyone baseline

[clear pulsar]

No

You're reading it wrong

[clear pulsar]

It's still a pvp talent

Yes mmoc is garbage

[ebon vortex]

interesting they're giving every melee MS now lol

[clear pulsar]

For reading ptr notes

@cold escarp

[cold escarp]

thick as thieves is the pvp talent?

[clear pulsar]

Still a pvp talent

[cold escarp]

oh okay good

[clear pulsar]

Just all specs now

[tulip falcon]

mmochampion hasnt updated their front page format in like 10 years

[clear pulsar]

This is completely cracked btw lol

[junior plover]

Nah

they cant spam rampage

all the time

its gonna have low uptime above 15%

[cold escarp]

its probably gonna be reduced by 50% in pvp like mortal strike

[junior plover]

pretty much none

[clear pulsar]

It says rampage damage

[junior plover]

oh

[cold escarp]

or what kiosk said

[junior plover]

lmao

[clear pulsar]

I'll test once I can open ptr

[junior plover]

so it instantly stacks 4

[clear pulsar]

But regardless

[cold escarp]

mortal strike is 50% in pve and 25% in pvp

[clear pulsar]

There is no good reason for it to be called 60% but halved in pvp

[cold escarp]

im guessing it gets same treatment

[clear pulsar]

When it's a pvp talent

Mortal strike is a pve ability

[junior plover]

^

[cold escarp]

so idk

they on crack

60% reduce healing

[clear pulsar]

They are indeed

[junior plover]

i mean

[tulip falcon]

pvp talent then half it in pvp

[junior plover]

w/e tbh

give fury some viability

if its broken

nerf it by 50%

call it a day

[cold escarp]

nerf it by 50%

in 4 month

[tulip falcon]

im scared of a lot of new shit being added at once

[cold escarp]

[ebon vortex]

lol wtf all rogue specs are getting disarm

[junior plover]

yeah id hope it wouldnt be 4 months

[tulip falcon]

gonna some busted things for sure

[junior plover]

rogues getting fucking massive buffs lmao

thats what u get when u complain 24/7

we should try that

[ebon vortex]

they're making all melee classes PvP talents quite similar

[junior plover]

Yeah all melee is getting MS

it seems

[ebon vortex]

most have ms/disarm

[clear pulsar]

Casters get all the cool shit

[junior plover]

except sub

[clear pulsar]

Sub has MS

[tulip falcon]

i thought feral did complain 24/7 but there isnt enough for them to care

[clear pulsar]

It's 15%

[junior plover]

oh im cracked

I think feral is generally like

feral is good better than boomie

u dont know shit

kind of thing

[ebon vortex]

warr is op, let's give every class MS instead lol

[junior plover]

on reddit

[ebon vortex]

feral ms is fair imo

[tulip falcon]

ready for season of the melee

[ebon vortex]

24% isn't that big

fury war 60% ms however

[clear pulsar]

Boomie gets instant clones and resource build in bear form
Locks get fucking the whole kitchen sink
Mage gets a bunch of gimmicky cool little shit

[ebon vortex]

or assa

[clear pulsar]

Melees all get MS

24% is the same as all others @ebon vortex

???

[ebon vortex]

kinda sad rdruid isn't getting anything new yet

[clear pulsar]

Off by 1% lol

[junior plover]

So you rip and tear and then press 1cp rip

and u get 2 stacks

[ebon vortex]

oh yeah it's reduced in pvp lmao

[junior plover]

or am i reading it wrong

[ebon vortex]

I'm not a melee player lol

[clear pulsar]

Rip and tear isn't a talent anymore

You just rake

[junior plover]

WAIT ITS BASELINE?

[clear pulsar]

No

It's a different name

:D

It's called Wicked Claws

[junior plover]

Ah

I see

[clear pulsar]

But the talent doesn't rake and rip

It's just the MS passive

[summer cliff]

where is the link to all this?

[clear pulsar]

Wowhead

[summer cliff]

need it!

[clear pulsar]

wowhead.com

[summer cliff]

hehe

[junior plover]

thats

ridiculously

good

what the fuck

[cold escarp]

yoo PTR keeps crashing anyone else?

[junior plover]

thanks Jeff Kaplan

very cool

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I cant log in @cold escarp

[junior plover]

i can log on eu if u want

to test smth

[tulip falcon]

been a while since ive seen instant clone

[cold escarp]

i am on eu ptr but it dc like every min

[clear pulsar]

Boomie only

[tulip falcon]

yea

[junior plover]

Cyclone leaves the target reeling, reducing their damage and healing by 30% for 4 sec.

: O

AND HEALING

massive tbh

clone the healer win the game

[ebon vortex]

yea high winds buff is huge

[tulip falcon]

instant clone with high winds memes

[junior plover]

its boomie tho

[stray sigil]

WAIT

FERAL GETS A MS

[cold escarp]

no its all specs

[stray sigil]

?????????

@clear pulsar

EXPLAIN

[tulip falcon]

Balance, Feral, Restoration

[stray sigil]

NOW

[clear pulsar]

Instant clone is literally based on getting owlkin frenzy

Which is a boomie passive

[stray sigil]

FACE

[junior plover]

rip and rake apply 12% both

@stray sigil

[stray sigil]

ANSWER ME NOW

WTF

[clear pulsar]

Are u guys daft?

Yeah fuji

[stray sigil]

THAT IS SO POGGERS

[junior plover]

it really is

necro dream

NECRO DREAM

[stray sigil]

12 X2

[tulip falcon]

thought he meant high winds was boomie only

[stray sigil]

OR

JUST 12

[junior plover]

x2

[tulip falcon]

talking about 2 dif things here

[stray sigil]

???

WTF

[clear pulsar]

Infected wounds applies 12% ms, and stacks twice. 24% ms and 40% slow

[stray sigil]

;LOPOLLL

OPGM,

D

FSD

FD

SFAS

DFAS

HS

DGHSD

HSDFHJ

SDFH

[junior plover]

The buff is

[tulip falcon]

where

[junior plover]

its only under balance

[stray sigil]

WAIT

CAN WE GET 4 PVP TALENTS NOW

OR ONLY 3

? ? ? ?

[clear pulsar]

High winds buff is for all

[stray sigil]

WE HAVE TO DROP WOUND PACK OR STRENGTH

[clear pulsar]

Only 3 are you daft?

[junior plover]

I see

[stray sigil]

MS TOO BIG

[junior plover]

wowhead is cracked

[stray sigil]

BUT BRO

[junior plover]

You drop wound as necro

[stray sigil]

WHAT DO WE DROP

[junior plover]

never bite

[stray sigil]

IM NOT NECRO ANYMORE

[junior plover]

LMAO

[stray sigil]

THATS FOR PUSSIES

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

Just drop fero wound

[junior plover]

u drop sotw

oh yea

[clear pulsar]

It's nerfed

[junior plover]

fero wound nerfed

to 2 stacks

so drop it

prob

[stray sigil]

its still 10% isnt it

[clear pulsar]

Just go lotp sotw MS

[junior plover]

yep

[tulip falcon]

ferocious wound wont be worth

anymore

[clear pulsar]

Bro patch is still like 2+ months away

You can go back necro til then

[stray sigil]

i actually dont like necro anymore

[junior plover]

Man this made me happy

[stray sigil]

i dont like being hard stuckd 1 lego

[junior plover]

Feral bout to be cracked in 2s

legit

[pale field]

lol, i just went necro from fae for a little change.

[tulip falcon]

im sure every spec is saying the same thing rn

[junior plover]

true

boomie actually about to be cracked

[indigo forum]

instant clones with high winds seems kinda nice

[tulip falcon]

meme value

[junior plover]

the high winds buff is huge but we can never take it probably

as feral

[tulip falcon]

yea but as boomkin it will be big with the insta clones too

[junior plover]

boomies surely really strong

yeah

[stray sigil]

wait a fucking second

[junior plover]

insane setups

[stray sigil]

why the fuck

do boomy get instant clone

and feral doesnt

HELLO

[tulip falcon]

because uh

reasons

[indigo forum]

that together with the new convoke legendary

[tulip falcon]

yes

[junior plover]

cuz boomie is terrible

[stray sigil]

? ?????

[junior plover]

and feral would be broken

probably

[stray sigil]

bro instant clone was OUR thing

[pale field]

feral with balance affinity? would you get it then perhaps

[indigo forum]

get insta clone and pop convoke every minute with beam

[stray sigil]

not boomies

[junior plover]

yeah but boomie is caster

it makes sense

[tulip falcon]

give predatory swiftness a 20% chance to proc an instant clone

[junior plover]

for them to cast better

[tulip falcon]

id be happy

[cold escarp]

fuckkkkk

im out

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

have u seen feral recently

we cast more than boomies

[cold escarp]

tried to log on ptr and i keep getting this

[junior plover]

yeah what im saying is

maybe thats not good

[tulip falcon]

or make clone part of predatory swiftness again

lul

[junior plover]

I mean

that'd make feral legit the best spec in the game

lmao

[stray sigil]

i mean i wont complain

having ms

[junior plover]

jungle is already broken af

[stray sigil]

is legit so good

[tulip falcon]

ye i was joking

[stray sigil]

will open up comps

[junior plover]

Yep

[tulip falcon]

if they made it like a 20% on a ps proc to get a free clone

[junior plover]

RET FERAL

[tulip falcon]

id be happy

[junior plover]

guys

[stray sigil]

we wont be dogs in 2s

[junior plover]

ret feral

FMP

buff

HUGE DAY

[stray sigil]

ok ok so

[junior plover]

FOR CAT

[stray sigil]

we get ms

[indigo forum]

both feral and boomy look quite crisp with these changes

[stray sigil]

and our slow

is 40%

thats actually so fucking poggers

[tulip falcon]

ye 40% permaslow fun times

[stray sigil]

well not perma i suppose

12s

[cold escarp]

is it dispelable?

[junior plover]

wait what with the slow now

whats going on

[tulip falcon]

its a disease

well

[junior plover]

oh its the talent

as well

[tulip falcon]

you apply it with every rake right

so

[junior plover]

lmao

[tulip falcon]

its basically up all the time

[cold escarp]

oh so only like palas can dispel it?

i think

[stray sigil]

palas priests

[clear pulsar]

Rake and Rip @tulip falcon with the talent

[stray sigil]

but like

[clear pulsar]

Monk

Pala

[stray sigil]

not like people will dispell that shit lol

[clear pulsar]

And priest

[tulip falcon]

so yea you will basically have it up all the time

[clear pulsar]

Can dispel disease

[tulip falcon]

ye

they dispel it i press rake

good job

i likey

1 min cd

[junior plover]

damn

[tulip falcon]

wonder how big the area is and how long it lasts

[junior plover]

i'd imagine its just reskin of pw: barrier

[tulip falcon]

pog rbg talent

maybe

[junior plover]

seems really nice into shadowplay

and stuff

casters in general

[tulip falcon]

well its a guardian talent so

gl

[junior plover]

oh

lmao

was thinking rdruid for sure

[clear pulsar]

That would be cracked

[quaint wraith]

cements guardian druid as the god of rbg tanks tho

[junior plover]

true

DH buffed

[tulip falcon]

it already was

[junior plover]

blizzard cracked

they buffed DH damage

as if that was the issue

and now theyre gonna run people down even harder

Embrace the Emerald Dream, causing you to enter a deep slumber. While sleeping, all of your cooldowns recover 400% faster, and allies within 40 yds are healed for 16 over 8 sec.
Direct damage taken may awaken you.

Yo

[clear pulsar]

Thats for pve

[ebon vortex]

rdruid has been shafted so far

[junior plover]

you just get Incarn back

as guardian

while sitting base

lmao

you can incarn every rogue

[ebon vortex]

like wow dude 100% tranquility healing

big

mw has been the best healer out of this

[junior plover]

i mean rdruid

is best healer rn

so i think theyre fine

[tulip falcon]

yea guardian will basically be the only viable tank if it wasnt already

[ebon vortex]

I would agree for 2s

Not sure for 3s

[junior plover]

Its best caster healer

[ebon vortex]

Also kinda weak against casters rn

But strong af against melee

[junior plover]

true

[tulip falcon]

is this all on ptr atm?

[junior plover]

but its strong WITH casters so if casters are popular

[ebon vortex]

I was hoping for a mark of the wild rework or something tbh

[junior plover]

it balances out for them

i guess

yeah its on ptr

[tulip falcon]

i havent played in 2 months cos im waiting for next season so i guess ill check it

[junior plover]

happy

nerf warrior now

thank

[ebon vortex]

the high winds buff is good tho

[junior plover]

NEW Nimble Brew Douse allies in the targeted area with Nimble Brew, preventing the next full loss of control effect within 8 sec.

nvm

[ebon vortex]

Like that's gonna make rdruid even better in 2s lol

[junior plover]

brewmaster

im cracked

[pale field]

so if things sit the way they are, what covenant are you guys thinking for each spec?

[junior plover]

Necro for feral rdruid

even on 9.0.5

[ebon vortex]

Necro for rdruid

[junior plover]

and kyrian for boomie

100%

[tulip falcon]

i should probably ditch night fae its an early expac meme

but cba

[junior plover]

nf is good on feral

no cap

[ebon vortex]

for resto at least if you do any pve you are throwing without NF lmao

[stray sigil]

nf could be decent for feral

if the lego is any good

id say

[junior plover]

the lego could be good

cuz of niyah

[tulip falcon]

true with that

[junior plover]

tbh

it sounds trash

but it might just be better kyrian

100%

[stray sigil]

since our leggos are garbage

it could be decent

[tulip falcon]

ye

[junior plover]

dreamweaver is cracked tho

im sure it wont go through

but right now theres a no cd passive

whenever you take damage under 80% hp

[stray sigil]

korrayn doesnt look bad either

[junior plover]

30% less damage taken

lmao

if it goes through for pvp its gonna be 5% or smth

maybe its meant to be 3%

and not 30

[clear pulsar]

The kyrian leggo is kinda nice

Actually

[junior plover]

what is it

[tulip falcon]

yea

[stray sigil]

or something like

[tulip falcon]

50% buff on it basically

[clear pulsar]

5% passive mastery, + 5% mastery when you activate it

[stray sigil]

dmg that would reduce u below 80% is reduced by 30% @junior plover

[tulip falcon]

oh it must have changed

[haughty compass]

I’m a guardian main now fuck it

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[junior plover]

oh so im the cracked one

i just repeat what ive heard

in this channel

im a monkey

monkey read monkey say

[stray sigil]

no im saying

[junior plover]

ohh

ye maybe

[stray sigil]

thats prob what they will do with it

[pale field]

yeah ok cool. ive handed in my mythic raiding shoes so its not so important that i spec around pve content as i just do pvp and m+ now

[junior plover]

5% passive mastery is kinda cracked

is it 5% flat

or multiplier

[cold escarp]

this sucks you never use it on partner, unless it works on urself and its just flat 5% mastery idk

[stray sigil]

prob flat

[junior plover]

on urself

100%

flat 5% and 5% when u use it

sounds good

5% mastery is like the niya proc

[haughty compass]

Yep all my team mates quit. I’m going to pug rbg / m+ as a guardian Druid rest of SL. Goodbye arena it was cool

[tulip falcon]

so the convoke one does 50% less spells but in 50% shorter time

with 60 sec off cd

pretty nice

and uses better spells more

[junior plover]

Convoke one sucks by itself but with niyah

[tulip falcon]

ye the mastery all the time

would be nice

[summer cliff]

so feral with MS will be even stronger with holy priest now

interesting

[stray sigil]

i dont think the convoke one is bad whatsoever lol

[ebon vortex]

uhhh excuse me????

[stray sigil]

1min cd is like super good for a cd like c onvoke

[tulip falcon]

convoke on a 1 min cd is pretty nutty

[stray sigil]

even if it does half

thats what

[clear pulsar]

Ofc it works on yourself

[stray sigil]

2 bites guaranteed?

[clear pulsar]

It's 5% mastery passive + 5% more when you activate it

[tulip falcon]

it does half but it also does more exceptional spells

so

depending on how much increase that is

[clear pulsar]

They changed the wording

[stray sigil]

k but even with only 2 bites

thats still super insane

thats like a ff on 1min cd

[junior plover]

lmao

[tulip falcon]

ye thats my point

[clear pulsar]

It looks like they're removing the exceptional spell from baseline and just making that part of the leggo

[tulip falcon]

ahhh

[stray sigil]

so like

how many bites u reckon ud get