yeah a lot of these pvp talents seem to target big group pvp
#pvp
ebon vortex
shadow rift could be useful against melee
cold escarp
u can block a whole path with ice wall
ebon vortex
resto got a new talent that makes tranquility unable to be interrupted
defo does seem like they are doing these for rbgs
junior plover
Necro bitches ain't got nothin on me
Imagine being a convoke owl
And u get lined by the wall
Nvm the wall probably insta dies
clear pulsar
Yeah that one @cold escarp but that's clearly an undergeared character
It does like 10k damage
junior plover
Reddit cracked as always complaining about destro nerfs
clear pulsar
I like that it exists and all, it sounds like a nice concept for a pvp talent for lock
junior plover
Agreed
clear pulsar
But it's cracked
junior plover
forest kite
now ? patch hit like in 2 or even 3 months , now ? btw they can still revert the change , buff it for pvp , make new legendary ( they will probably do ) and so much shit , also change covenant , rework the spec etc xD
junior plover
https://gfycat.com/revolvingmediumchimneyswift
lmao what
viscid remnant
wtf is that lmao
clear pulsar
You are completely cracked in the head @junior plover
junior plover
Why would u be mad about that thats hilarious
forest kite
i just rolled lock , finished the gear , it's already a pain , now i imagine use 3 more gcd to apply snare with exhausting curse and i'm done
xD
junior plover
clear pulsar
Pvp talent
junior plover
i guess u can use it to force 10k damage on the other talent
into your partners setup
could be nasty
clear pulsar
It's gonna be complete madness in rbgs
forest kite
rbg spell
clear pulsar
With this shit
junior plover
RBG LMAO
forest kite
gimmick in arena
forest kite
at least it seem gimmick
junior plover
Vortex is a thing
junior plover
and it didnt break the game yet
forest kite
https://gfycat.com/revolvingmediumchimneyswift
clear pulsar
Shadow rift 5 people to perfectly position them for a priest knock off an edge @junior plover
junior plover
Yeah
will be great
Just dont listen to my takes on rbg
but i think its fine for arena
especially since affli got giga nerfed
and destro wasnt too strong last patch
forest kite
corruption snare removed from sacrolash , they can add anything , lock will smell shit in rbg
xD
at least you still have DK , + this sweet reduce range shit pretty insane also
no need AM anymore to convoke safe
ebon vortex
damn the range on shadow rift is big
clear pulsar
It's immense
ebon vortex
Could force people out behind pillar easily with yhat
junior plover
It's immense
big word
clear pulsar
HUMONGOUS
ebon vortex
maps like the kyrian one you just would be able to fully stop pillar hugging
mystic wedge
junior plover
maps like the kyrian one you just would be able to fully stop pillar hugging
ye but lock already plays with rdruid
so its really no different to vortex
clear pulsar
so its really no different to vortex
It's a lot different???
You bring them out 30yd from a pillar
Compared to vortex pulling them 10yd to the side
Also
Use both????
cold escarp
how is 9.1 = poop if 9.0.5 = poop
viscid remnant
(poop)^2
ruby marsh
cold escarp
theres new legendaries?
clear pulsar
Covenant spell leggos
Venthyr warrior one is super cracked
Necro druid one is completely worthless
Only a few are visible/known tho
Most are undiscovered
clear pulsar
The speculated convoke one is interesting and potentially really good but potentially trash, needs to be tested cuz the wording is vague
viscid remnant
lunar totem
As tauren when is war stomp used?
junior plover
What spec
lunar totem
bala
junior plover
Press it and then spin 360 degrees
junior plover
Yeah thats what ive been doin
cold escarp
u EU?
junior plover
yessir
junior plover
goated
delicate palm
Does anyone know whats the deal with Outlaw rogues bringing people out of stealth?
junior plover
I get what you mean but i dont think its combat rogues
I think its priests
we've had this discussion here in the past
stealth randomly breaks when around them
sometimes
maybe its combat rogues too just havent playd vs them enough to know
cold escarp
wait its friendly outlaw rogue that breaks your stealth?
oh i know what it is
its this shit
cold escarp
idk but i played with a priest who had this and it kept breaking my stealth
junior plover
clear pulsar
junior plover
very goated
cold escarp
pvp is dead so might as well play the pokemon mini game
it gets more content than pvp
cold escarp
anyone here played tbc ever?
was wondering if moonkin is viable in arena
i know resto is insanely good
junior plover
pvp is dead so might as well play the pokemon mini game
Its not battle pets
this is pepe skins
fair zinc
anyone here played tbc ever?
I played moonkin/rogue in TBC. Moonkin was pretty sad in arena. Restokin on other hand... but thats pretty much the same rdruid just with more offence added to it.
fair zinc
PvP set gave some proc like -1 sec cast to Starfire I recall =). That was pretty much the highest burst you could do back then
There were not that many interrupts around back then however as well as gap closers and stuff. The general problem was that pillars, warlocks and mana as a resource countered you pretty hard. I still hate locks to these days after the whole expansion of SL/SL bullshit
cold escarp
maybe ill play lock there then
untold spade
Hey guys, how is Apex Predator's Craving in PVP? Is it an absolute no-go? Or is it any decent
junior plover
Its not good but it has some cheese potential
sudden zinc
Mandatory to run Incarn as Guardian FC w/Sleeper leggo?
ebon vortex
https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=185191/replaceme-gladiators-leather-belt
this is both good and bad
good because its always gonna make pvp gear bis for pvp
but bad because youre still gonna be in the situation where higher rated players have better gear
that like final push between brackets is gonna be harder than it should be if the other team are playing 6 ilvls higher
cold escarp
no flame
cold escarp
i love poland
tiny tusk
Mandatory to run Incarn as Guardian FC w/Sleeper leggo?
Yes, 15s of cc immunity vs 30s
calm breach
Yes, 15s of cc immunity vs 30s
^^
lime light
Hihi hahah hehe
junior plover
POLAND = POOPLAND
surreal heron
cold escarp
POLAND = POOPLAND
green valve
Lmao
ebon vortex
man wowhead is so trash like 90% of the time now
like the ilvl of pvp gear is clearly a placeholder and they write this shit
cold escarp
lol
green valve
Lmao
Thats the point tho
Caps at heroic in pve
So fuck shit stops buying glad boosts to hardstuck gatekeep my alt at 1400
cold escarp
if its like wod it wont change boosts
it will just make pvp gear better in pvp early into season
green valve
I mean i dk i think itll help
green valve
Because theres no point buying a boost to pve
green valve
Right now pvp gear is bis for a bunch of classes
cold escarp
pvp gear is bis in pvp regardless cause of trinket bonus
green valve
So like once that dude buys his 226 from a boost for his mythic raiding
He now sits at 1400 2s because he sucks
And makes your 207 alt fight full 226
So now if the duelist gear is shit in pve cuz it matches heroic
That dude fucks off
cold escarp
but pve gear has no versa
green valve
Thats my point most classes dont want versa anyway
cold escarp
what
green valve
Right?
clear pulsar
He's talking about pveers getting boosted in pvp for gear
TO be used in PVE
Because they are PVEers
cold escarp
oh
clear pulsar
????????????????????
cold escarp
idk he talks in pvp group about people getting boosts in pve??
green valve
How u feelin btw boss?
cold escarp
makes no sense
green valve
Still kicking
cold escarp
who cares about boosts in pve bro
green valve
Lol pvp boosts
clear pulsar
NO DUDE
HOLY SHIT
OH MY GOD
Ok
Let me draw this up
PVEers buy boosts in PVP because it's good gear for PVE
middle of the pack rating is full of boosters and boostees
that problem is fixed by making PVP gear bad in PVE but great in PVP
thus, PVEers won't be interested in buying boosts anymore
green valve
^that
cold escarp
i didnt know
blissful belfry
lol
green valve
Have you entered arena lately on an alt
cold escarp
yes
clear pulsar
cold escarp
so they get boosts in pvp to get good pve gear?
clear pulsar
Literally every pvp streamer does nothing but gold boosts in shadowlands
cold escarp
i guess
clear pulsar
Someone else have this ocnversation pls
blissful belfry
I am guilty. I helped my friend grind some 0-1600 rating for his trinket that he'll use in pve by convoking noobs with my big fear advantage
green valve
I am guilty. I helped my friend grind some 0-1600 rating for his trinket that he...
Yea i do it for my buds and their alts too
cold escarp
well now i know no need to be mad bro @clear pulsar
green valve
Like you walk in with a 226 boomie/ret and legit 2 tap ppl at 1400
Its fucked up lol
blissful belfry
i honestly havent seen a better feeling than convoking a clueless undergeared noob
edgy oxide
pvp'ers are weird
blissful belfry
i'll convoke that holy priest. he'll die without pressing chastise or gfade and than i'll spit on his clueless spirit form while i go finish up his chummy
green valve
Actually yesterday tbh
Used my ret to get my buddys 156 dk 1400 in 1 short sitting
Nothing the other team can do about it
blissful belfry
I got hit for 26k Final verdict through barkskin by a ret
green valve
So hopefully that shit cuts down with wod gear
green valve
Na or i would bud
green valve
If they implement that 1 min convoke leggo could be good
arctic rivet
Also I refuse to go feral mainly bec its the contrary of my boomies name
Largechicken is the name of my boomy
I guess we’ll have to see, I think I should just swap to Kyrian tho before 9.1
green valve
They linked it yesterday its like 1 min cd convoke shoots 8 spells in 2 sec
arctic rivet
Plus either way convoke is such a risky playstyle if you get kicked or stunned you’re kinda fucked
cold escarp
NF is dead officially for boomkins now?
no u can play it with dreambinder
arctic rivet
Ah... alright but I thought dreambinder was just better for Kyrian in general
While yes dreambinder makes you do big damage outside of convoke but
It doesn’t have synergy with NF compared to Kyrian
green valve
I just swapped i like it better but grinding renown sucks
cold escarp
yeah but consistent dmg is not what wins games
green valve
Think im like renown 17 atm after a day
cold escarp
burst does
arctic rivet
I mean that playstyle was either way better than convoke its just convoke was fun to meme with so thats why I went NF before
I mean its a consistent strong burst
cold escarp
i like 2-3 big crit starsurge over 5 non crit ones
arctic rivet
You shit a lot more star surges while Kyrian buffs your damage
arctic rivet
But boat is getting the nerf bat so....
cold escarp
yeah so in 9.1 we're kinda forced to swap to dreambinder
will be okay
but no reason why NF should not work
arctic rivet
Yeah but Kyrian will overshadow NF tho
As dreambinder and the Kyrian ability is really powerful together
cold escarp
yeah it already kind of does
turbid jolt
How it this going to change biosting to get gear to pve
The ilvl is the same vs mytbic pve still
clear pulsar
Because pvp gear is lower ilvl by default with a modifier to be higher in pvp instances
It's not
turbid jolt
No it isn't
cold escarp
cuz pvp gear gonna suck in pve
turbid jolt
That's obviously a placeholder Ilvl
cold escarp
yes
turbid jolt
The duelist gear is going to be same as m raid
cold escarp
u sure?
cold escarp
but whats the point then
turbid jolt
The point is to get PVE gear out of PVP
clear pulsar
That's not how it was in WOD
turbid jolt
Not really
turbid jolt
There's ton of people in lower brackets with half raid gear that have significant gear advantage even with slightly less verse
226 with 20 vers >>>> 213
green valve
Huh? Mythic raid is gonna be like 259 from last boss and 252 from others
arctic rivet
Its just again
turbid jolt
Yeah so will duelist base ilvl
arctic rivet
The only reason I went NF is bec the thanos snap burst was still a thing to fear for
green valve
The duelist gear will be like 239 and 259 in pvp
turbid jolt
Duelist will be 252 (265)
green valve
Match heroic
arctic rivet
But now that its gutted yeah....
Got no choice but Kyrian Dreambinder now
Sad chicken times
cold escarp
how do u know all this
green valve
I thought duelist was gonna = heroic raid and boost to mythic in pvp
turbid jolt
Read what ion says?
clear pulsar
Purely
cold escarp
does he have a twitter or something
turbid jolt
Oh and you're not right i forgot
cold escarp
i only read mmo champ interviews
turbid jolt
They have talked about this in interviews they want the best way to get gear to be playing everything
And when they talked about a change they said WoD like system where pvp gear was always the best in pvp
They're trying to combat pve ilvl being relevant
cold escarp
oh ok
clear pulsar
And it was worse than pve gear at pve, not =
Conquest gear was 700 ilvl in pve, 730 in pvp
HFC gear was 720
I swear bro people with raid gear in low rating arena is really not an issue that needs fixing
turbid jolt
They talked about PvP relative Item Level for PvP Gear (similar to what we had back in WoD). The idea they are discussing is shifting back to how PvP gear worked back then, when there were 2 item levels, so gear went up to Item Level 232 in PvP, making it the best to wear in PvP scenarios.
That's from one of the blizzcon articles
Not talking about combating boosting
turbid jolt
Fuck off
Can't accept the idea that you might be wrong huh
Tell me anything that says that it's going to try and match heroic level as the base
clear pulsar
'Shifting to how gear worked back in wod'
pvp gear was lower ilvl than pve gear in pve, higher in pvp
How are you trying to use that quote to tell me this isn't gonna make pvp gear worse in pve
When that is exactly what the quote says?
turbid jolt
Yeah that's how wod pvp gear worked in pvp, that is not how pvp gear will work now, especially since we have tiered pvp geat
clear pulsar
Ok so you're using a quote that says they want to make pvp gear work like it did in wod
Then you tell me it's not going to work like it did in wod
turbid jolt
The goal is what is important
clear pulsar
Based on the quote that says it's going to work like it did in wod
turbid jolt
That being making PVP gear the best at PVP
clear pulsar
Pls dont talking
arctic rivet
I mean
As long as they don’t neuter our pvp gear completely for torghast
I’ll be ok
Thats the only area I would care for PVE content
cold escarp
torghast scales with ilvl
turbid jolt
Having equal to less than equal level vs raid is not the best at PVP
cold escarp
i did torghast on my 160 alt and felt okay
cold escarp
monke
turbid jolt
oh i can't wait for The blue post on this
cold escarp
you guys should do a bet
like on dogecoins or something
also u should buy dogecoins
clear pulsar
He's the one talking with so much certainty about what he thinks they want to do, and then he quotes an interview that says directly the opposite
cold escarp
wait i missed the interview part
turbid jolt
It will be hilarious though if duelist is 246 base 259 pvp and we're both wrong
cold escarp
is there a link
clear pulsar
Like I said
In wod, conquest gear was heroic ilvl in the world, and higher than mythic ilvl in pvp
turbid jolt
Just as much certainty as everyone talking about boosting dyi g and duelist = heroic
clear pulsar
And since that is what the stance they showed is, that they want to bring it back to how it worked in wod
That is the only relevant info
And 'insight' on what the ilvl will look like
turbid jolt
In wod they didn't want pvp geat in pve
clear pulsar
Pls just
turbid jolt
Im sl they do
turbid jolt
Feel free to stop yourself
Taking p VP gear out of PVE is a major design philosophy shift
ebon vortex
I mean I would assume PvP participation this season is higher because of how gear is
turbid jolt
Making PVE gear out of PVP is not
ebon vortex
Making the max ilvl HC ilvl is gonna reduce that
ebon vortex
yeah it's just gonna be how it is already
Except PvP gear will scale up in ilvl in instances
cold escarp
so what does it change for pvp
turbid jolt
It helps lower brackets where mythic raiders can stomp low level PVP people
cold escarp
oh
ebon vortex
means you can't have pve players with 226 against PvP players with 213 at 1600
ebon vortex
at 1600 theoretically a PvPer and pver should be equal power level after it
Which is 100% how it should be
pvers can push to 1800 for 220 gear and PvPers can push without having to worry about gear
lost bolt
Why not just make PvP stats be worthless for PvE and vice versa true (secondary ones of course)...
Vers is amazing for PvE right now.
ebon vortex
the real problem is in the gaps between 2 brackets
cold escarp
@lost bolt from my understanding they like that pvp gear works in pve
it increases participation in pvp
ebon vortex
like that last 50 CR before you rank up is gonna mostly be against people 6 ilvls higher than you
lost bolt
Dont even need half the trash in mythic
cold escarp
yeah the gear gap is kinda dumb
cold escarp
yeah but 1800 is top 10% of players
lost bolt
Wait what
cold escarp
its not as easy for average player
turbid jolt
Having people do rsid and pvp increases active users
cold escarp
unless they buy a boost
turbid jolt
And that's their main goal, keep people logging in
lost bolt
But getting 1400 is quite easy
turbid jolt
That's why you need so much honor to upgrade gear too
cold escarp
207 is like normal raid no?
lost bolt
2100 226
turbid jolt
200 is normal
lost bolt
2400 233
turbid jolt
213 heroic
foggy ravine
turbid jolt
And realistically they should be able to get 207 from valor playing with their feet
turbid jolt
Yes
lost bolt
I mean, I'm playing at 2.3k rbg, never been 2.4k, and am currently afking at 1850 3v3. It's compeltely different and not comparable imo. Some skills transition, but its not the same.
lost bolt
And TBH 2.1k rbg is not top 70%
turbid jolt
187 but yes
turbid jolt
Too many tiers
cold escarp
cuz they wanna appease every type of player
turbid jolt
3 would be good i think
turbid jolt
Don't forget uber casual
turbid jolt
The ones doing like normal bgs and heroics
cold escarp
u know why mythic raid was added, cuz ppl were crying they cant finish heroic so they made heroic easy then hardcore players cried heroic is too easy so they added mythic
clear pulsar
It's more like mouth drooler, casual, single dads and moms, people who like the game
cold escarp
and thats how we went from having 1 raid difficulty to 4
cause many pl were crying that they cant finish raid
instead of getting gud
ebon vortex
u know why mythic raid was added, cuz ppl were crying they cant finish heroic so...
lmfao i play with someone exactly like that
turbid jolt
How long before they have 5th tier to keep the hardcore interested longer
Like mythic plus raid
cold escarp
mythic is hard enough tbh
ebon vortex
complained to me the other day that it sucked thehy had to find a guild to do mythic
there is litterally no need to have 4 raid difficulties
cold escarp
yep but blizz wants to please every type of player
think of all the moms and dads who just log to do LFR
go afk mid boss to feed babby
ebon vortex
imo lfr should exist
cold escarp
it wont be removed so it doesnt matter
ebon vortex
its fine that theres something for casuals to do
cold escarp
i disagree
ebon vortex
and its just m0 ilvl anyway so it dont affect muchj
cold escarp
i think some content should be exclusive for better players
green valve
Man just reread the patch notes
ebon vortex
the difference between 184 and 226 is just hillariously big
green valve
They fucking dumpstered affi locks
ebon vortex
yea lmao
cold escarp
locks are dead
ebon vortex
i think desto will be good
cold escarp
20% agony tho )))
green valve
Whelp my locks perma benched i guess
ebon vortex
i play with a destro in 2s
green valve
Yea i just hate destro
ebon vortex
destro + rdruid feels really good in 2s
rake stun -> lock freecasts
and then lock has like 2000 kiting too
green valve
Nah destros getting big buffs too gonna be great
cold escarp
its not that big of a buff
green valve
I just dont like the spec lol
cold escarp
chaosbolt got nerfed by 5%
but u can havoc it now
but havoc is still a curse so half classes in game can remove it
ebon vortex
shammy and rdruid right
green valve
Yea all druids sham n mages
ebon vortex
i dont think its that bad
green valve
But they can bane it and triple bolt now
cold escarp
its not but it wont make destro insane out of nowhere
green valve
So like fdk mass grip into mw sweep into triple bolts
lime light
Face is a goon
ebon vortex
mostly just talking from an rdruid perspective since theres a lot we can do to help out destro
green valve
Like class is already miserable to play
ebon vortex
yeah lol
ebon vortex
every time i play with affli they just try and kite all game while spamming dots
sacrolash chnage is gonna make them even easier to kill
viral granite
For feral in 2s what's your typical opener rotation
fleet panther
if I plan to play feral for 2's but also feral in m+...what's a good legendary I can craft to suit both?
clear pulsar
Symmetry for 2s, Circle for m+
fleet panther
cool ty
turbid jolt
if you need to only use one i would say apex is kind of good in both but not great in either
clear pulsar
Yeah it's a waste of soul ash
turbid jolt
i would just go with whichver of circle / symmetry depending on which is more important to you
clear pulsar
But it's kinda fun sometimes
turbid jolt
i like it fo rprio add killing but its' less overall yea
like i funnel the procs into the annoying dude in packs
clear pulsar
I'd say symmetry is more playable in m+ than circle is in pvp if you're not necro
clear pulsar
Symm kinda nice with predator resets sometimes
cold escarp
any tips to join RBGs with 187 ilvl
and win
the groups that take me always end up losing
🥲
cold escarp
i dont even care about rating
turbid jolt
they have intentionally low CR groups for farming honor
cold escarp
i just want conquest
turbid jolt
/ conquest
but i don't think they're super common but i have seen them
people tank rating down to like 900 and then play to farm and then they tank a bit after some wins i guess
turbid jolt
^
turbid jolt
at a minimum they should have had conquest rate catch up curve
i don't even want to start gearing my tauren until next patch
cold escarp
yeah i made a 2nd druid to play horde and no catch up is hell
cold escarp
especially since i got zero friends in horde
turbid jolt
they took the middle ground
cold escarp
any EU hordes here wanna be my friend?
turbid jolt
a little worse in pve and a little better in pvp
cold escarp
yeah
it sounds good
i would actually love if they just implemented it now
into current patch
turbid jolt
so example is pvp gear would be 233 with 240 weapons right now
arctic rivet
be patient and wait for 9.1 to see if NF is still viable?
or just swap to Kyrian and get dream?
cold escarp
are u maxed on NF?
cold escarp
then swap to Kyrian and max it too
arctic rivet
got to 40 in like 4 days
clear pulsar
In an upcoming build of the Chains of Domination PTR, you will notice that all Season 2 PvP items have +13 item levels in PvP. This means that in PvP situations (such as battlegrounds, arenas, and war mode), the power of these items will increase by 13 item levels. Along with this, the baseline item level of these items will be reduced by 6 from where it would have otherwise been.
arctic rivet
alrighty
cold escarp
bro we just talked about this
turbid jolt
i would think boomkin night fae is dead unless you want to use the covenant thing
clear pulsar
turbid jolt
It is, in fact, worse in pve <@!228677175232954368>
and it is also not = to heroic ilvl
cold escarp
@arctic rivet get both covs to 40, both legos to 235 this way you're ready for any scenario
turbid jolt
middle ground
cold escarp
u still have lots of time
arctic rivet
whats the drop rate of that fucking lego?
tardy hare
so they made a change to remove pve players from pvp and make us less useful outside of pvp
++
cold escarp
patch is like 2 month away
turbid jolt
i would like wait a few weeks to see ptr wave 2 even
it seems like the'yre trying to remove pve gear from pvp while also curbing some of the things like paid boosting
so it won't do either that well?
clear pulsar
Bro I swear to you
People in 226 raid gear at 1500 are not a real issue
Just drop that
turbid jolt
if you say so
i mean i have seen it a lot in NA
and people bitching about it a lot on boards
turbid jolt
arena boosting is probably way more prevalent but they could have just said, no selling boost for gold if they wanted to shut that off
i mean a 226 ret will still go 1 shot some 213 guy
the power gap from 13 ilvl is huge this expansion
cold escarp
yeah because going from 200 to 213 is way different than going from 500 to 513
tardy hare
arena boosting is just free wins if you're not a donut
clear pulsar
arena boosting is probably way more prevalent but they could have just said, no ...
That's very likely a major source of income
And of playtime for their data
turbid jolt
idk i think it's some of the multipliers going on
yeah true they get the token sales
clear pulsar
People buy tokens with money and exchange for gold to buy boosts
If they kill gold boosts in pvp they have to kill gold m+ boosts too
Which they won't
I mean kill as in rule out
They can kill it by making pvp gear not better in pve
Which is waht they're doing
cold escarp
i see no reason why they cant just add it as a hotfix
its just few number tune
fucking blizz
turbid jolt
so what ilvl will honor gear be
still -3 from base conquest
or is that like a mid patch thing again
turbid jolt
both?
🙂
i think necro uses draught in 2s but circle in 3s?
and fae doesn't use either
gloomy nova
I can only craft one, its for offspec
sly marsh
What does fae use
sly marsh
thx, sorry for simple question, trying to decide on my 9.1 char
turbid jolt
and kyrian...i guess symmetry also
and if you're venthyr idk wtf you're doing with your life
sly marsh
because sub rogue got yeeted
sly marsh
100%
turbid jolt
assassin will be fun
enough of the rogue annoying shit to be fun rogue without being cheese restealth at all costs rogue
clear pulsar
so what ilvl will honor gear be
-6 in pve, + 6 in pvp from what they are now
So duelist would be 220 in pve, 233 in pvp
Right now
turbid jolt
i mean the basic honro shit like
clear pulsar
Probably the same
turbid jolt
how we used to cap at 171 then 184 then 197
clear pulsar
Ah
turbid jolt
was that just for inital patch i wonder
clear pulsar
Just add 26 on top
Of every current number
It goes up 2 difficulties basically
Per tier
cold escarp
i think it will be that shit again because they add 40 renown
so we will have to get the renown unlock again to max honor gear
gloomy nova
I guess circle is better for me to craft, since if we get 2x legendary that one is the next-to-go legendary unless something new pops up
turbid jolt
b/c it is kind of weird to have conquest gear only 3 ilvl higher than honor gear tbh
clear pulsar
So what is current mythic / duelist ilvl will be next season normal / unranked ilvl
cold escarp
u sure?
turbid jolt
I guess circle is better for me to craft, since if we get 2x legendary that one ...
what cov
cold escarp
so if im full 226 i wont need honor gear again?
turbid jolt
i don't think you would even in old system
gloomy nova
Im necro resto. Im just tryna craft something for feral offspec
cold escarp
yeah but its a whole new system i have no idea what they're doing
turbid jolt
i guess highest ilvl honor gear could be is -3 from base
gloomy nova
So i guess it'll be circle for me, since it's also usable as resto if it comes to that.
turbid jolt
if duelist is 246 then base is 220
so honor is 217
and up to 230 in pvp
so i guess it's a little better in pvp yeah
cold escarp
where do u get that duelist is 246
turbid jolt
they said it will be -6 from what is normal right
and mythic is 252? which would be duelist normally
cold escarp
i have no idea what mythic will be
turbid jolt
they posted some mythic items
clear pulsar
u sure?
That's what the numbers are on PTR rn, and how it's been for the last 3 expansions yeah
Mythic is 252
cold escarp
oh ok
clear pulsar
Normal is 226
turbid jolt
so i guess yes this tier we will want honor set
but probably not s3
that kind of sucks
unless they limit honor gear ilvl behind renown again
cold escarp
wtf
turbid jolt
🙂
clear pulsar
Get wardened dum dum
tardy hare
atleast saltwater isn't censored anymroe
blissful belfry
With the way they make pvp gear scale next patch. Players who do both PvP and PvE are getting punsihed hard i think. If you ever not take a pvp option in your vault, you'll be behind 1 pvp item until you are full geared. (1 per week you dont) and if you decide to pick a pvp option, then it will be weaker than other choices in pve
feels kinda shit
cold escarp
u wanted to play multiple types of content or multiple spesc? fuck you
blissful belfry
Yeah, i guess its a great change for 100% pve peeps and 100% pvp peeps
cold escarp
- ion
clear pulsar
The patch is just putting more restrictions on literally everything
tardy hare
it's litreally only a great change for 100% pve people
clear pulsar
Multiple characters, multiple specs, multiple game modes
blissful belfry
yeah probably even yeah
cold escarp
i have to open a new character if i want to play resto cause kyrian resto is absolutely useless
turbid jolt
and have fun if you play multiple specs with haivng to use same soulbind and differnet conduits
blissful belfry
Pve scrubs are crying since the beggining of 9.0 because they suck at pvp and they want the same gear as the ones who are good at it
tardy hare
they do get the same gear as the ones who are good at it
clear pulsar
That's fine tho if it means they stop spamming the ladder with boosts
blissful belfry
getting 220 gear for 2100 rating right now? fucking weak
turbid jolt
early on people will want to have duelist and keystone master asap to fill out gear quickly still so they still probably boost until like week 8
clear pulsar
I don't think people will care for having duelist other than world first raiders
It's 1 very minor item week 1, or a decent piece of armor week 2, at a 6 ilvl upgrade from heroic/spammable m+
turbid jolt
it might have a spiral effect with a minor drop in demand, prices drop and eventually the people doing it wont' bother right
clear pulsar
Issue is
Legendaries cost a lot of fucken gold
Whatever whole patch is shit changes I hope I can quit
turbid jolt
they were really bad at the start, which means this ilvl upgrade item thing is going to be insane
start saving
cold escarp
did anyone t est Prickling Thorns breaking itself?
clear pulsar
Hmmm time to sell m+ I guess
gloomy nova
Has there been any indication when 9.1 will launch?
stray sigil
Hmmm time to sell m+ I guess
ur way too bad to sell m+ les be honest here
arctic rivet
whats the drop rate of dreambinder?
turbid jolt
Has there been any indication when 9.1 will launch?
no but probably 2-3 months
clear pulsar
How would you know, you literally dodged the same week you joined my guild, went back horde
arctic rivet
just did heroic and it did not drop :c
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
It goes up with difficulty
lime light
Goon
turbid jolt
oh yeah the dungeon ones are easy in keys right
but if you did like normal it was 10% or something
turbid jolt
or was it you were too intimdated by the high IO score
turbid jolt
i'm only 1300 am i scrub i guess
stray sigil
yup sucks to suck
turbid jolt
i mean i'm not trying to sell keys though
turbid jolt
lol
stray sigil
dont look at my io
turbid jolt
i'm just saying like i don't care i get my loot boxes etc
clear pulsar
@stray sigil don't talk unless you're higher io than arena rating
stray sigil
? ? ??
clear pulsar
turbid jolt
a ha so if you tank your arena rating to 1000 your'e good
stray sigil
well i got cheese then
cold escarp
How do I even get keys or get into a mythic scythe
go to LFG tool and type Mists of Tirna Scithe (Mythic)
not mythic keystone
do a m0 once and if it doesnt drop only then try doing keys
stray sigil
@clear pulsar qd 3s again last night
went 1-6 at the start
giga tilted by chunli just
spamming scare beast on me whole game while doing 0 dam
get lassod by smex? better scare beast him aswell
stray sigil
i hada rdru and a bm hunter spam hib and scare beast on me the whole game
giga cancer almost made me uninstall
cold escarp
im glad to hear it makes ferals seethe so badly
tardy hare
Go uninstall
cold escarp
i always hibernate they shift out and in i hibernate again
clear pulsar
Bro what the fuck
blissful belfry
finishing a 2s game boomy vs sub makes me want to uninstall
cold escarp
until they tilt
blissful belfry
Druids that hibernate other druids deserve the gulag
yes
im not even playing feral
but that shit is treason
cold escarp
i dont just hibernate i start spamming it when they pop cds so they dont have globals to do dmg
cause they waste all globals to shift
:)
blissful belfry
treason
stray sigil
i mean spamming hib wasnt even a good global
he wsa dispellign his mates flame shockl
cold escarp
it is when u wanna peel
stray sigil
ya
cold escarp
yes still pretty big for warriors
clear pulsar
Like how the trinket bonus works
So it's like if you're 30%, goes to 36%
Why big for warriors?
cold escarp
stoopz says its additive not multiplicative
clear pulsar
Euphoria doesn't proc on using condemn bro
cold escarp
so its a big buff for warriors
clear pulsar
Not really
cold escarp
gotta see if its 20% flat or 20% to current like u said
haughty compass
might even try out the leggo that gives you incarn every x amount of ap spent
for night fae
clear pulsar
Pelagos
cold escarp
thats strong as fuck wtf
clear pulsar
Dreamweaver
cold escarp
where do u see this
cold escarp
oh ty
clear pulsar
All the places where you see the soulbinds
Niya btw
Niya is gonna be sooooo insane for m+
For every night fae in the game
Them doubling down on these shit systems is so annoying
clear pulsar
Just more and more power tied to these systems, swapping between specs or content is more restricted, bis covenants will have more room to outscale the worse options, bigger gap
cold escarp
:(
clear pulsar
Yeah covenant sanctum upgrades giving you eventually twice as much mana from all sources lol
You can see the 'favoritism' in the legendaries
Night fae druid legendary interesting thing and potentially massive
Necro druid legendary the worst piece of garbage
haughty compass
yea i have a druid on each cov, so i can mess with them. but my main went night fae because im a sucker for druidy stuff
nerd alert
stray sigil
pelagos thing looks pretty cray
clear pulsar
I'll probably sit night fae and be m+ heal main if I end up playing next patch at all
cold escarp
chest
cold escarp
1250
haughty compass
yea night fae heal m+ / probably heal my buddy in 2s on his dk
arctic rivet
I got 580 now
so I can make it today then 😄
gonna make my lego before I change to Kyrian
I wanna be functional when I go kyrian
and not have a boat that won't work well with the kyrian ability
also whats the best talents for Kyrian boomies?
cold escarp
u dont have to make it to change to kyrian
arctic rivet
I remember its different since NF uses specific ones
arctic rivet
well Its not like I'm gonna throw that away
cold escarp
u will throw away gold
arctic rivet
I'll still have it
cold escarp
just save ash and craft it to 235 instantly when u get enougg