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tough meadow
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does anyone know if Corkiri the streamer has any kind of guide with addons or macros or Ui and etc ?

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or maybe a spreadsheet

junior plover
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Bfa is not

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Wod and legion are

hollow cypress
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@tough meadow Agi, Vers, Haste, Mastery in that order is what you're after. Sleeper LEGO and BM trinket.

Haste and Mastery are close, imo Mastery is better in terms of tankness but I prefer haste my self. Test it and see what you like.

On Node maps if your sitting a base and know it's safe to leave, you can play HotW, with Boomkin Affinity. Swap BM for on use. Stealth into team fight, pop cds and convoke then go back to sitting.

ILvL is king remember that.

somber hazel
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I got hit by a 18k ms and a 18k condemn in 2 gcds at 29% vers lOL

pallid vessel
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line it

viscid remnant
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#skill

junior plover
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Friend of mine finally starting SL and he rolled warrior

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Glad here I come

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I bet his fresh 60 warrior could hit 2.4k

wise valley
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See

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Guard stats don't matter

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Every one will tell u something diff

cold escarp
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why dont arena loses give any conquest ahhhh

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new alt is suffering

wise valley
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Wow

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U want fake trophy with ur name on it too for losing?

junior plover
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No bully

viscid remnant
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truu doe

lime light
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Dont lose

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Just win

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And earn the conquest

haughty compass
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It’s so many arena games lol

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For 9k it’s

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Pts

viscid remnant
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best thing to do in that situation

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is cancel sub

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play good videogame

lime light
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No, pls let holinka

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Feed the kids

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Play other games, but dont unsub

viscid remnant
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on a more serious note i guess doing daily win in all brackets and then farming rbg is probably best

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any rated with good winrate is best

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climbing abit in all is good because at low cr you smash clueless noobs usually

ripe heron
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Ever worth playing feral affinity as guardian in rbgs? I've played a few games and it seems ok when base sitting for the 1v1

lime light
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Someone to hear your prayers

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Someone who's there

hollow cypress
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@ripe heron I prefer Balance Affinity myself but if it's a FC map I go Resto.

vague mural
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so im thinking about dropping nightfae on my feral, does it seem like necro is the play now or still kyrian

lime light
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kyrian and necro both are viable in all of the comps

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necro worst in fmx

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NF best for fmx

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overall NF is the worst

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kyrian is good for burst-set up windows

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necro is best dps, best survi, decent burst with FF swarm

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~~play what makes u horny

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avoid venthyr

hollow cypress
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Venthyer not that bad as Boomkin tbh. My PvE druid owns it up.

vague mural
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ew boomie

lime light
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i will ask u to leave and not come back till u are smart enough to talk in my channel

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please

hollow cypress
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@vague mural I at Resto mostly but ever once in a while I do the 🐔 dance

vague mural
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but yea i was jsut unsure what to go since im leaving NF, so you said fmp kyrian is better what about for jungle?

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jungle and shpriest feral are the more common comps i've played

lime light
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in jungle both works well

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but i suggest u trying necro, cuz its super old school play style

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with draught

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single dot - heavy

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and going for cc/healing

ripe heron
lime light
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bm hpriest necro feral jungle is super face roll

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i belive its almost as braindead as ret arms

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rn

vague mural
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ah maybe ill give necro a go then

lime light
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iam playing necro in survi disc jungle

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is doing ok

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sometimes i know kyrian would be better vs rmx and caster comps

vague mural
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OH that reminds me for that draught lego, when it says on a single target it does that mean all 3 bleeds on 1 target only or just all 3 bleeds need to be on that target but it doesn't matter if its on others lol

lime light
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but vs arms cleaves necro is just better

vague mural
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prob a dumb question sry

lime light
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and i have more fun playing it

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i had crippling depression, playing kyrian feral for a while

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was not fun spamming bite, and the only thing it matters was your bite

vague mural
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lmao damn

lime light
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basiclly all 3 (4 with reju) abilites are on their own

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if u have moonfire on one target

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its doing the 40% more dam

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same with others

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but if u moonfire 2 targets and rip one

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rip will be buffed by 40%

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but moonfires not

vague mural
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OOOH ok gotcha

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thats not at all how i interpretated it

lime light
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also adaptive swarm is buffing your regrowths

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the initial hit also

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that is huge

vague mural
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phat

lime light
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and i belive, the swarm also buffs freanzy regen

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and adaptive swarm + fearal freanzy

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can tick for around 5k non crit

vague mural
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jesus

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thats actually phat burst lol

lime light
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yeah

vague mural
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yea i may swap soon once i get the ash for the lego

lime light
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its kinda funny, to kill arms warriors

vague mural
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i think i have enough for rank 3 actually so may be able to swap soon

lime light
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they parry most of the time at like 20% or so

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but if they are 'freanzied

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there is no way

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to survive without more cds

vague mural
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i guess one more thing i wanted to consider bc it seems like in 2v2 convoke is really good. between kyrian and necro which is better in that bracket?

lime light
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imo necro is the best 2vs2 covenant by far

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if u are playing with healer

vague mural
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yea i play w holy priest usually

lime light
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convoke is good, if u are doing some 2x dps

vague mural
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ahh

lime light
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so necro is the best

vague mural
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is double druid a thing? like resto feral lol

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i'd imagine not

lime light
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should be decent ye

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should do allright vs venthyr warriors

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but gonna be kinda damp

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dont let enemy healer drink

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never trade with warrior, just run whole game

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connect for feral freanzys swarm's or go on a healer

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and keep aids'ing the warrior

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hpriest is bis i would say

cold escarp
lime light
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PoE ofc

cold escarp
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dont like arpgs

viscid remnant
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i mean

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it depends on what u like

lime light
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i like boys

viscid remnant
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ive been playing valheim mainly

lime light
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and girls sometimes

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can u recommend something

viscid remnant
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stop gay lolmao

lime light
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iam just multi talented

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thats it

tardy hare
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I like girls too

lime light
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so u like me

tardy hare
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Yes?

lime light
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thats super cute

viscid remnant
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😳

cold escarp
stray sigil
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daily reminder tian sucks

lime light
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tian is gone

stray sigil
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good

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he was bad

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1 less rat in my server

lime light
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yes

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the problem is

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the server belongs to El Padrino

stray sigil
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belongs to fuli

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fuji

lime light
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Feji is just rat kid

stray sigil
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?

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u see this name ?

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cant make it up

lime light
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u can be my Gustavo

stray sigil
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nop

viscid remnant
stray sigil
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u can be my underling

lime light
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that was not a question

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that was an order

stray sigil
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u can be the leader

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when u pass me on the ladder

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NOOB

lime light
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already did

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2000 EU = 3214 NA

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#alwaysRight

viscid remnant
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based

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and true

stray sigil
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ok u can be the leader

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when ur mog better than mine

viscid remnant
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farmer PogCat

lime light
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cringey

stray sigil
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u wouldnt say it to my face

lime light
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i would

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join call and i will

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smh cant see the wings

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but thats already too good

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i should be suspended

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cuz of that mog

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its just too good

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i cant belive

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(not a full set ofc 🙂

viscid remnant
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female troll

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engineer goggle

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🤢

lime light
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its not engi goggles

viscid remnant
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goggle

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anyways

lime light
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one more mistake and u are gone

viscid remnant
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not tauren not gud

stray sigil
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full set

lime light
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not

bright portal
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Hey friendos, what pvp talents do i go for low rating RBG as a resto druid

stray sigil
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trash mog

lime light
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u are so wrong

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i cant belive

stray sigil
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female troll

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trash mog

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trash feral

viscid remnant
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idk i mean

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imagine not being tauren

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tauren is the only horde race that doesnt look dogshit

stray sigil
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wrong

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all dogshit

lime light
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idk

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how is that possible

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to be so wrong

stray sigil
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true u are so wrong

pallid coral
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@stray sigil male night elf omegacringe

lime light
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+1

wise valley
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Female trolls have sick mogs

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Wtf u smoking

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Tauren ugly as fuck bro

junior plover
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I'm gone 5 days and y'all change avatars and names and shit

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Imagine not wearing phase 3 classic feral bis if you're tauren

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Like what's wrong with u

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It looks great

viscid remnant
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tauren is alpha race

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big ass how

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cow

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what r u going to do against a big ass cow

clear pulsar
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Cook it sous vide

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Then pan fry it

stray sigil
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@pallid coral u are so lost

viscid remnant
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male nelf is either gay or based

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just depends on the player

pallid coral
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Male night elf is big yuck

wise valley
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Yeah

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Weirdos irl play ne males

stray sigil
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nop

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ur all wrong

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playing female ne like basic bitches

muted venture
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having issues with spammable cat form > prowl macro, here's where im at:

#showtooltip prowl
/cast [nostance:2] Cat Form
/cast [stance:2, nostealth, nocombat] !Prowl; !Prowl

despite lots of experimentation and digging around online, i cant find a spammable version of this macro that wont occasionally break and pop me out of stealth into caster form... problem is related to the GCD? but even then it's not 100% repro-able?

has anyone here been able to make a spammable cat form into prowl macro that wont randomly break?

clear pulsar
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Prowl automatically puts you in cat form

muted venture
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right, my problem is that with the above macro, every now and then when i press it, it'll take me into cat+prowl, then immediately pop me back into caster form. folks online say this behavior happens if you're trying to use the macro while on GCD, but that doesn't seem to happen 100% of th e time when i try to replicate

tiny tusk
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#showtooltip
/stopattack
/use !Prowl

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what i use, works fine

muted venture
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thx i havent tried adding /stopattack and /stopcasting, hopefully that will help

forest kite
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Any balance/resto druids looking to push 2.1 or 2.4, I’m currently 1800 looking for a consistent team to play with in 3s. DM me. WW monk.

junior plover
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I like when people infiltrate our discord to look for partners

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It's so crazy that there still isn't an agreed upon lfg discord

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And we are stuck talking to the only people we can't group with

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Which is other players of our class

clear pulsar
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There are plenty of lfg discords

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But a community discord is never gonna be better/more populated than the in-game tool lol

stray sigil
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isnt there a wow community discord

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and theres a lfg option there

haughty compass
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Just find people you get along with, jerk each other off and climb together

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Wait what

blissful belfry
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My teamates are really good at killing

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only sad they always start with themselves

green valve
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Yo what potency conduit do ypu guys run as kyrian/dreambinder for boomie

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Oh i guess you could run 2 as pelagos

rancid laurel
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Been hearing about a macro that cancels form to allow you to form shift faster, is this a myth? if not can someone share?

clear pulsar
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It doesnt do anything for helping you shift faster

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It's useful for avoiding hibernate/scare beast faster

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Just /cancelform

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Pressing the form spell again will take you out anyway, there's just a cvar that handles whether shifting out will wait for the next global or not, to avoid spammy people shifting out too fast without meaning to

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Shifting out of a form is already off global tho

rancid laurel
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yeah i noticed that, so the only reason one would use a macro is to cancel form and it's redundant bc pressing the form button again does the same action?

tulip falcon
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its not redundant since you can't shift out as fast if you're on gcd

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shift in -> gcd - > cant shift out til gcd is over

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unless you use a /cancelform macro then you can still cancel

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so if some dude is spamming scare beast casts they can catch you out on the gcd unless you use the macro

clear pulsar
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Right, like I said

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It lets you shift out without waiting for next gcd

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To avoid hibernaet/scare beast

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It doesn't let you shift to a form faster

rancid laurel
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okay i misunderstood. could that line just be added to every key that is a form shift atm?

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just make a macro and add cnacel at the top?

clear pulsar
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That would be probably bad but sure

rancid laurel
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i'll give it a try

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may also use a seperate key bc i've noticed mouse overs don't work when in a form, using a mouse over, it instead casts on the target or self

clear pulsar
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Mouseover works perfectly in a form

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You probably just don't have the macro in the form bar

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Or something like that lol

rancid laurel
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lol

clear pulsar
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The only thing that doesn't work with mouseover is mouse buttons

rancid laurel
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yeah i have it as form bars may have to rearrange my keys i'll look into it tonight

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1-4 is heals regardless of form

clear pulsar
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You do have to place the macro in each form if they're on the main bar

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The one that changes for each form

rancid laurel
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i may just look into changing that bc it's caused me a ton of grief bc i have 8 redundant abilities

green valve
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Yea putting it in a seperate bind is prob the move

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Something random you dont use and have a decent keybind for

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Like rez or some bs

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Dont wanna get hard quick swapped too and cancel bear in a panic or someshit

vague mural
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alright bois, rip the convoke dream swapping to necro rn q.q

wheat granite
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Why doesnt this community have a tmog channel ? 😦

green valve
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Probably cuz its all woolbear woolies with a tanktop or suspenders

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Male or female

lime light
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Welcome

clear pulsar
muted venture
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ok adding stopattack and stopcasting to this macro still busts me out of cat sometimes, and im not spamming the button either. i tap the button once and i pop into cat+stealth then instantly back into caster, its just when i do it too soon after a gcd

#showtooltip prowl
/stopattack
/stopcasting
/cast [nostance:2] Cat Form
/cast [stance:2, nostealth, nocombat] !Prowl; !Prowl

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ok wait i found the fix lol

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just a formatting issue

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#showtooltip
/cast [nostealth, nocombat] Prowl
/cast [combat, nostance:2] Cat Form

green valve
muted venture
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cast prowl before cat form and it doesnt break me out anymore

green valve
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Those nerds need help

clear pulsar
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Yeah that's cooked

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GOAT tier

edgy shale
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i agree with that

stray sigil
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base ne is goated

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rest is ass

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trolll is decent

forest kite
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I swear when it’s time to convoke in BGs I get people coming out the woodwork to interrupt me. Could be deep into a long 1v1 and as soon as I press convoke I have 8 people around me mashing int.

void mural
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lol playing balance in bgs is so frustrating for that reason

clear pulsar
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ANY FLESHCRAFTERS IN CHAT?

viscid remnant
fresh tangle
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Hi all, I really Wana start pushing feral as my main but find there's just so much to learn compared to other melee to be good.

What would the main points to learn (in order if needed) be to get a solid basic understanding of the spec?

Thanks

clear pulsar
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That's big time bullshit

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Just read the guide in pins

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Hit dummies til you know how to do damage

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Idk like

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It's the same as picking up any new spec

stray sigil
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i do think hybrids tend do be more "difficult" in arenas

keen phoenix
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Man I so wanna swap to necro as well. But RBG mainly at bear, so guess I’m stuck as NF

stray sigil
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swarm regen is like

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mega huge regens

keen phoenix
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For RBG tho, it’s mainly WG we want to be NF? Everything else necro is as good or better?

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Yeah

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I just see the top 40 or so bears in RBG being NF

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Ah

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But that is mainly temple no? Everything else is either fc or guarding

clear pulsar
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Idk guardian is the same as boomie as far as map pressure

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If not better

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Cuz you can take feral aff so you have stuns / incap roar / cyclone

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But yeah I agree

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Would much rather be boomie

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Even if base sitting

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Boomie unkillable as well + can spin thru cc with treants / fury

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And big dammies

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You make me

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Unhappy as fuck tbh

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I was doing rbgs just now some low cr spamming games for vault, we barely won a deepwind where I stole 6 bases

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Our guy sitting one base didn't cap it at all until like 3 mins in

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It was glorious stuff

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Like 1500-1450 with me winning 1v3s and capping 6 bases

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RBG is the wild west of wow for sure

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I remember when I had hopes that glyph would take me in them alt rbgs with good people

fast vale
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For resto, what second trink people generally using?

weak hinge
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Battlemaster

clear pulsar
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Literally outhealed 2 of my healers

junior plover
lime light
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Imagine thinking Feji is a leader

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He is not even a leader in his room

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His rat is

viscid remnant
plucky steeple
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Hi guys, can anyone shed some light on best conduits for feral pvp necro? just want to make sure im using the correct ones to maximise damage!

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and obviously defensive one too 🙂

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thanks in advanced

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im running with 40% dot damage lego

lime light
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Honed must have

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More healing on rw and freanzy

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And adaptive swarm buff condult

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4th optional

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The bite one

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Or the tf one

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I would go tf one

plucky steeple
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tigers fury one over taste for blood?

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at the moment im using adtive swarm damage increase, honed instincts sudden ambush and innate ressolve at the mo

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should i only change sudden ambush?

junior plover
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Definitely TF over TfB for necro

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Sudden ambush is poop

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Otherwise you're good

plucky steeple
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okay 😄

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i will try and farm the tigers fury one

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where do we get it from ?

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ahh spires of asension 🙂

weak hinge
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adaptive swarm makes prickling thorns tick for 4-5k 😮

plucky steeple
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can you farm conduits in HC dungeons now?

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or if it doesent drop 1st time in there it wont drop till next week?

junior plover
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You can

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Heroics are normally on a 1 day lockout but it has been removed for shadowlands

sage cove
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@plucky steeple you can also do mythic 0 for a chance at 184 ilvl conduit. From HC it will only be 171 iirc

plucky steeple
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i tried that

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but only get one shot dont you a week 😦

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been spamming spires of assencion HC all morning -.- haha

junior plover
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You can spam m+ as well

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+2 or something if you're undergeared

plucky steeple
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i am 191 atm

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just healing to make it go quicker

gloomy token
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Sudden ambush only good in st pve for necro cat

trail crane
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the higher the mythic+ the more chance to drop conduit/leg

wind rock
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For feral in arena, which soulbind would you guys go with as night fae, korayn or Dreamweaver?

junior plover
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Neither lol

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Niya is bis

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But out of these 2 Dreamweaver is a lot better

plucky steeple
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tigers fury conduit for feral pvp is 3.9% additional damage even that big?

queen drift
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Yes because it applies to all your dmg

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its huge

plucky steeple
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does it increase DOT damage that i already aplied before i activate TF?

queen drift
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No

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You have to re-apply

plucky steeple
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agh thats annoying

haughty compass
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Any resto bois have xp with an unholy dk?

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This season

somber hazel
haughty compass
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You run feral aff mostly? Having trouble figuring out the play style

somber hazel
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yeah run feral aff, help with pressure, watch your mana. the dk being smart with his grip will be huge, if youre in a full kidney getting bursted and he grips the rogue off of you it relieves a lot of pressure

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even if you're not in melee spam wrath or get a drink if needed, dont forget you can drink in stealth

haughty compass
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Yea sounds like we’re on the right track, just need more games

vivid dock
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When does boomy start doing big dmg ? Im only doing random bgs at 175 ilvl, i know im far from geared, just curious when it starts pumping

lime light
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Hi

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Its me

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El Padrino

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U guys are lucky

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@vivid dock around 225 to 227, as every other class

somber hazel
kindred monolith
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Any kitties that have ran with both holy and disc priest. Can anyone give me a little bit of an explanation as to why holy is slightly “better” in 2s for kitty?

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@vivid dock if you have convoke and decent crit, you can do some pretty big dmg right away lol

weak hinge
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@kindred monolith slightly better? lol its insane. chastise into fear. more dam. better mana.

kindred monolith
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Yeah, someone messaged me telling me everything that makes them better. I’m necro lord kitty and my buddy is currently disc. Not opposed to holy, we both just didn’t understand what made holy better. After all this, I’m sure he’ll make the swap

lime light
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@kindred monolith disc is good, if u can end gamę fast, u have insane pressure, and u dont let your enemy Play their game

kindred monolith
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I didn’t realize holy had more dmg. I thought that was what disc “was all about” lol

lime light
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Otherwise hpriest is just better, and cant be abused by most of the melees and rm

kindred monolith
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So disc would probably be better for convoke/kirian

lime light
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Convoke ye, kyrian not rly

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Also could be good for necro, cuz insane damgur

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But u need to have pressure, do the plays

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Dont be passiv

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Cuz u gonna lose

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If u dont do anything

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As hpriest just play

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Do damgur run

kindred mica
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Is there a Balance ability or legendary that locks you in place when they cast Solar Beam?

lime light
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Whatever makes u happy

kindred mica
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I got capped on against a druid yesterday who cast solar beam and I was totally immobile inside of it. Weirdest thing and I don't know what he did. Wasn't cyclone

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Felt like cyclone though

tardy hare
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entangling roots

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?

kindred monolith
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For sure. Im enjoying kitty a lot. Usually boomy or Resto

kindred mica
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I dunno, was very effective though

plucky steeple
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im assuming as per above comment with the boomie feeling good is necrolord feral they start pumping around full gear 213?

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ilvl

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im 192 at the mo and its feels reallllly fun just lacking something

kindred mica
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Yeah looking at macros it must have been mass root/solar beam. Just panicked when I couldn't move and gave him enough time to cap. Alright I'll look out for it in the future, thanks

somber hazel
plucky steeple
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i hope so i mean im pulling 1.7k dps at the mo

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which is not great especially in caparison to others xD

somber hazel
young musk
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Any guide tip for boomie pvp I am 1.8 atm

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And want to push for 2.2

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On 2v2

lunar totem
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I feel like I wanna try kyrian. Will I get punished if I make the switch, and wanna go back to nf?

tall knoll
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Supatease on YouTube has some really helpful videos @young musk

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@lunar totem for boomie?

lunar totem
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yes

tall knoll
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Im also boomie and switched to kyrian like 2 weeks ago. Feels really good in pvp and having the option to go dreambinder.
As for getting punished. If you switch back to nf you start at renown 1 again but your covenant structures like transport network should stay intact

lunar totem
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thanks for answering. Renown is pretty easy to get now. Guess I'm gonna do it

cold escarp
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no u dont lose ur renown if u switch back

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i switched like 3 times back and forth and i got both kyrian and nf on 40

stray sigil
#

daily reminder tian is not the leader

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he is a rat

plucky steeple
#

do we as necro want around 10% haste and rest piled into mastery?

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necro feral

cold escarp
#

anyone know if +5% speed enchants work in pvp?

#

gems*

junior plover
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They do

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Well not sure which speed gems

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I know some speed gems work

unreal wharf
#

About to get into RBGs as bear. Seems like Rage leggo is way to go?

junior plover
#

No

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Sleeper

unreal wharf
#

so yea rage then

junior plover
#

Wat

unreal wharf
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Rage of the sleeper is the legion ability

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that legendary is based on

junior plover
#

Ag

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Ah

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In that case yeah

severe creek
#

hey, for open pvp boomy as a nf....do you go all in burst or more of an sustained build?

obtuse ice
#

arena or BG ?

severe creek
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open world sry, forogt to write that^^

blissful belfry
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open world... just incarn convoke

plucky steeple
cold escarp
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what do u mean sustained build

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burst all the way

gray folio
#

if I have decent-ish gear from raiding (~195), and no PvP gear, whats the best way to get geared up for PvP?

I'm starting to get a ton of honour - it feels weird to swap a ~190/200 PvE geat for ~170 PvP but not sure how else to gear up.

should I just grab 1 PvP item and upgrade a fewtimes and do it slowly, or would something else make sense?

lime light
#

ok listen

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-195 is decent for doing world quests

topaz python
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Hey, what's the best 2v2/3v3 comps for someone that wants to play scratchy scritchy feral affinity?

lime light
#

-spam rated bgs for max conquest and honor

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-find someone that wanna gear up, lose 20 arenas in a row, and spam q after that for coqnuest

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u gonna push once u have full / a lot of gear

topaz python
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I dropped my rdruid after 1.8 at start of SL. Kinda wanna play again

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Only wanna play cat though

lime light
#

feral affinity abuser - play caster cleave

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mage ele

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shadowplay

gray folio
#

whats the best way to swap in/out gear from PvE to PvP though? just focus 1 item at a time upgraded to a decent ilvl?

topaz python
#

Thanks El

lime light
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if u are honor capped, just spam rated arena/bg

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for conquest

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the honor gonna be enough for a while

topaz python
#

I've got swiftmend leggo, anything better for cat heals right now?

lime light
#

once u are higher rated in arena/bg

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u can upgrade it wit hhonor

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@topaz python not sure about this

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u can check out here

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what they are playing, but might be not correct for "only" feral affinity abusing

gray folio
#

Thanks El

lime light
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i checked few

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they are all swiftmend lego

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and feral affinity

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so u should be fine

real creek
#

What is my first leggo as resto druid?

lime light
#

swtifmend one

mental crypt
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Finally got 2100 as necrolord feral SavageRoar

fair vector
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Im wondering since I dropped a spherule, for feral pvp 226 staff of discordenant ethic or 220 nightwatch eviscerator, which is better?

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Gz 😄

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Necrolord looks nice, I wish I could switch for pvp

pallid vessel
#

what healer would y'all play for boomkin/ele/x?

mental crypt
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Tried kyrian and nf
Necro feels like how feral used to be

fair vector
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I prefer bleeds by far, but since im raiding night fae or at least non necro is a must

mental crypt
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Y sadly for you
Taking something else than nf would be trolling kinda :/

fair vector
#

Raiding is my main thing so its an easy choise, but wish I could do both

kindred parcel
#

Kyrian or NF for Balance/Rogue 2s?

short dagger
#

any good rotational tips for what we should be using while heavy movement and unable to get confoke to go off

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or unable to free cast into ecplises

fair vector
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Ty!

orchid badge
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For Guardian PvP should I Incarn before Convoke? For PvE (not getting interrupted) the ideal seems to be Convoke then Incarn to maximize uptime of the Mangle buff.

tardy hare
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if you're gonna try to kill people with convoke

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atleast go into moonkin form and then press convoke

topaz python
#

is master shapeshifter still bugged for feral affinity?

surreal heron
orchid badge
surreal heron
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assuming you have legacy, it does prevent stuns but not interrupts

lime light
#

Hi Thyme

mental crypt
clear pulsar
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It was fixed like 4 months ago

topaz python
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ty

forest kite
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We need to start a change.org petition to bring back powershifting

cold escarp
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what is powershifting

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im new to druid

forest kite
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basically a macro that went from cat form (or anyform) back into that form

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so to break roots you would use a powershift macro and go from cat -> cat

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now you have to change forms like cat -> bear or something and back to cat

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it was for root breaking but it saves a gcd

cold escarp
#

oh

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forms werent on cd with themselves?

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i remember something like that yeah

forest kite
#

It just let you shift into the same form you were already in

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and they took it away a few xpacs ago

cold escarp
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sounds a bit op

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i can see why it was taken out

drowsy sierra
#

Is there a decent guide for guardian druid in arena/rgb? Looking to go hard on some pvp for the first time ever now that everything else has been killed

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I've got NOW/Sleeper crafted already

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And from unrated, I can see that my role is probably going to be "can't die", but other than flag carrying and general disruption, I'm not really going into things with a clear plan of what I should be doing

clear pulsar
#

Not really, it's very rare that anyone plays a tank spec in pvp with any degree of seriousness other than for flag carrying in bgs

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So there's not much in the way of guides

drowsy sierra
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Fair enough

clear pulsar
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Since FCing is pretty one dimensional

drowsy sierra
#

So it sounds like swapping to boomkin and figuring that out is probably the way to go if I actually want to be desirable to rgbs or arena partners

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?

fair vector
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In rbgs there's ussually 1 tank in the group

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Mostly DH but I think guardian makes a fine one as well

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Or not a bad one let me put it like that

cold escarp
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ppl sleep on DHs so hard

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havoc is insane in arena

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and they are best def for RBG by far

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if only i had the power to level another char

viscid remnant
#

Wrong and wrong lol

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Dhs are only good in 2s

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And guardian is best base def

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Because rogue cant cap when you barkskin because of brambles

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Dh is good but way too squish for current meta

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No more blade dance dodge means almost every spec out trades it

clear pulsar
#

Guardian is definitely a better base sitter than veng or havoc

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Not even close

cold escarp
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they're good in 3s too

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soon they'll make a comeback i feel it

clear pulsar
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Idk havoc seems fine, pretty good spot but nothing particularly extraordinary

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Similar spot to feral

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Just opposite sides of what they do

cold escarp
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feral has same dumb design like DH

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melee with 100% uptime

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only thing stopping them from being op is squishy

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but why i think DH will come back is because hunter is in meta now

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and being able to reverse traps is huge

clear pulsar
#

Like boomie

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Caster that spams insta casts

cold escarp
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i see you

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but have u heard of mages

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insta casts but even more dmg and zero build up time

blissful belfry
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whats a mage

cold escarp
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delete rogue mage from game

blissful belfry
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I want wow, but with only druids

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master race reigning supreme

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The big quatuor of power!

clear pulsar
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Nah

cold escarp
clear pulsar
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Mage is what it is

cold escarp
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my 2v2 stats from last 2 weeks

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geting farmed by rogue mage 🥲

blissful belfry
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lol

clear pulsar
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Every spec has strengths in design

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How do you lose to rogue mage

cold escarp
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because i play boomie

clear pulsar
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You're literally unkillable

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And the rogue should never get a clean opener

cold escarp
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they dont

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but then they just reset over and over

blissful belfry
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as a boomy i dont die to rogue mage, but my teamate can

cold escarp
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yep

clear pulsar
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Yell at your teammate

cold escarp
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he cant do sh*t cause boomy cant lock down rogue mage

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they can reset forever

blissful belfry
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i spend my day and my nights and my dreams and my nightmare screaming at my teamate

clear pulsar
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Play boomie spr

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Never lose to rogue mage

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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Yeah so get a better partner

stray sigil
#

also rog mage should win vs everything in 2s pretty sure

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good ones atleast

clear pulsar
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There are no good ones

blissful belfry
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mirror!

cold escarp
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@clear pulsar im like 2450 in 2s rn

stray sigil
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theres like very little coutnerplay to go mage in 2s

cold escarp
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i cant find anyone better at this point

stray sigil
#

rog mage*

blissful belfry
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wat comp u running your boomy with at 2.4

clear pulsar
#

Feral hpal never lose to rogue mage bro @stray sigil

cold escarp
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holy priest boomy

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but its kinda shit tell you the truth

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we got 2.4 by farming warriors

blissful belfry
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lol

cold escarp
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but now warriors kinda fallen out of meta in 2s

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so we struggle

blissful belfry
#

kyr or nf

cold escarp
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NF

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but swapped to kyri now to try

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so far its a bit worse

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lacks the punch

blissful belfry
#

How often do you convoke in incarn vs convoke and then do a set up a bit later in your niya mastery window with incarn 3 surge

stray sigil
#

@clear pulsar bad rog mage mayb

cold escarp
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opener is both

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later on it depends on situation

stray sigil
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they can just kill hpal in like 2-3 gos

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and if u dont have a priest u gotta go rog cuz alter

blissful belfry
#

yeah, most of my openers are cat stealth into carnvoke

stray sigil
#

but stealth conduit is fun and balanced

blissful belfry
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but i hate when i face pets

cold escarp
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nono i dont do stealth into convoke

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our big setup is fear/clone on healer, chastite on dps and convoke/mind games

blissful belfry
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kk

cold escarp
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this way no way to stop convoek

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unless they commit cds

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i think ill swap back to convoke its just too good in 2s

blissful belfry
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i been tryna queue a bit with my spriest friend in 2s

cold escarp
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even if u dont get a full cast like 1 sec of it is enough to fill your AP bar and unleash surges

blissful belfry
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but i feel like our only window of kills come from me. Im not sure how bad he is with his burst

cold escarp
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you play boomy spriest?

blissful belfry
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ya

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in 2s

cold escarp
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its pretty bad comp imo

blissful belfry
#

in 3s i go resto and shadowplay

cold escarp
#

you have no slows which means u cant get melees off your priest

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clones DR with fear

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so ur priest is just sitting there taking it

blissful belfry
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well, we can usually survive between 2 and 4 min

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but some matchup kill the priest real fast

cold escarp
#

tell him to craft the lego that gives him wild charge

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idk how its called

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2 stacks

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its really good against melee teams

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this one

blissful belfry
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thaaaats what it is, i was wondering the other day how a priest wild charged

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as for spriest boomy comp. i had heard it was one of the better double dps boomy comp. I managed to reach 2.1 with it with a pug priest, but my friend def seems worse than a pug

cold escarp
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its one of better ones yes

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but thats because boomy double dps is trash

blissful belfry
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im never sure which target we should be killing. Like, root beam healer, clone or fear dps. MG the rootbeamed healer carnvoke. stun out of root, silence out of trinket. But we never really manage to do as planned

blissful belfry
cold escarp
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boomy in general is tier B in 2s

blissful belfry
#

a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do

cold escarp
#

just play 3s

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in 3s we're tier A+

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find an ele and holy pal and faceroll to glad

blissful belfry
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problem in 3s i aint got no healer. so i end up resto in shadowplay

cold escarp
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thats decent too

blissful belfry
#

yeah, ele hpal was the best thing i rolled. up to 2186. But my partners stopped playin

cold escarp
#

if u got 2.1 as spriest boomy thats huge tbh

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with 2s rating being so deflated

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id say thats as good as you can get with a subpar comp

blissful belfry
#

tbh, im really not what i'd call ''great'' in pvp. Idk how good that pug priest was to make this work, but it was def better than what my friend can contribute

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i just hate lfg tho

tardy hare
#

Spriest hella fucking broken

foggy ravine
#

nerf feral healing

cold escarp
#

took a dump on those boosters good stuff

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how did ur mage only do 150k dmg

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cross kill?

foggy ravine
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ya dh got him and dh died same time

blissful belfry
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cross kills are cancer tho

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cuz then u end up in a 2s matchup, with no starting dampening

clear pulsar
#

Are you necro? @foggy ravine

foggy ravine
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ya

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I play resto wanted to try some feral

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ended up playing resto anyways

blissful belfry
clear pulsar
#

You like some fleshcrafties then?

foggy ravine
#

I am infact a fleshcraft abuser

clear pulsar
blissful belfry
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hehe

clear pulsar
#

You like some fleshcrafties?

blissful belfry
#

bear form ursine vigor fleshcraft poggers

foggy ravine
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holy ef

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yuge

blissful belfry
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i had heard bm trinket didnt work no more on fleshcraft, is that tru

clear pulsar
#

Emblem + fortitude + kyrian thing that gives 5% hp to allies

foggy ravine
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it definitely still works

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I start games where im not lazy with like a 36k shield

cold escarp
#

nerfs when

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u saw that AWC comp that ran triple fleshcraft

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warr spriest shamy

foggy ravine
#

I outhealed our disc once

cold escarp
#

thats so fucking aids

foggy ravine
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it was a quick game though

blissful belfry
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Imagine the waiting room before arena. Hotw ursine vigor bm with the fort buffs and shit into fleshcraft, then u change conduits and hotw

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hotw 20% extra stam in bear

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i wonder how much of it you can actually respec

foggy ravine
#

well if an ability is on cd

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you cant swap from the talent

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but in bgs

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you can swap spec to guardian to get fatty fleshies

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then swap back to boomy/feral

blissful belfry
#

i guess you can work around that and use the oath leggo in the waiting room for auto hotw, then swap it ye?

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or must u be combat

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never used oath

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someone give a call to rextroy, he's gonna find a way to abuse it some way

foggy ravine
#

that would be nutty lol

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36k is already redonk

gloomy nova
#

So how are some players entering the arena when the game started already?

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Are they just in loading screen for ages?

tiny tusk
#

was it hook point

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yea usually long load screens

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
#

But you can game it in rbg

#

Swapping to a diff spec that has heart talented

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Then back

cold escarp
#

yeah fleshcraft being unaffected really breaks some classes in 2s rn

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resto shamans are suddenly everywhere

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and resto druids

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and resto druids

junior plover
#

and resto druids

cold escarp
#

how long will it take

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for them to fix it

stray sigil
#

they havent fixed mc bug

cold escarp
#

im betting on 6 month

stray sigil
#

so prob never

cold escarp
#

lul

junior plover
#

So I had a 2s game of hpriest/feral vs RDruid/affli

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We crosskilled at 12 minutes

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The druid kept healing to full

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With fc

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And holy priest ignores dampen

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So they just played at 100% dampen

cold escarp
#

holy priests got that pvp talent

junior plover
#

Until they handshook a rez 1 minute before the tie

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But man

#

Why is that a thing lol

vague mural
#

how good is shpriest feral 3s? and what would be the best healer for it?

cold escarp
#

its really good both resto sham and holy pal work

vague mural
#

hmm

#

i was thinking abotu doing that or feral affi lock

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mainly bc i went necro

cold escarp
#

spriest better

junior plover
#

BM is better in every way than affli

#

For feral rot

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And you still get the usual jungle benefits

cold escarp
#

spriests can random solo kill with sky fury and mind games

vague mural
#

ahh true

junior plover
#

Caster feral rot is weird cuz no mortal wound

cold escarp
#

ye but fuck bm hunters

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everyone i know who plays bm hunter is an absolute degen

vague mural
#

thats one of the reasons idk if i wanna play jungle lol

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or at least bm jungle

junior plover
#

I mean all the Hunters are bm now

vague mural
#

fair

junior plover
#

If someone is playing mm

vague mural
#

i like sv

junior plover
#

I think MM is 2nd lowest playrate spec

vague mural
#

its fun to play

junior plover
#

After arcane mage

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Other than the tanks and shit

vague mural
#

true lol

#

im loving the necro build tho just grinding the renown since i just swapped lol

cold escarp
#

necro broke

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wish it worked with boomy

junior plover
#

It does you just have to go into your spec tab

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Select feral

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Press activate

cold escarp
#

i tried playing melee one time in 10 years of playing wow

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actually this season

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got warr to 2.1

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and promised im never doing it again

junior plover
#

Feral isn't melee feral is SPECIAL

cold escarp
#

nothing special about it

junior plover
cold escarp
#

scuffed rogue

junior plover
#

There's casters

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Melee

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Healers

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And then there's feral

#

Pinnacle of game design

cold escarp
#

they learn how to not design classes after looking at feral yes

junior plover
cold escarp
#

i could be leveling an alt now but instead i sit here

#

why is this expansion like this

vague mural
#

leveling alts is boring but at least gearing we can pvp painfully unlike bfa xD

cold escarp
#

didnt play bfa idk

#

i liked the gearing in legion

#

get to max level and just hop into arena

vague mural
#

bfa you couldn't really pvp gear

#

one piece per week from chest

#

and the conq gear was bad

cold escarp
#

oh yeah i remember

#

i played like first month or two

#

but realized its really really bad

vague mural
#

does adaptive swarm affect the main hit from regrowth?

#

or just the hot

#

not adaptive swarm sry

#

the legendary draught

gloomy nova
#

What legendary do I craft as Necro? (resto main but need an offspec legendary)

#

BoAT or circle actually good as necro?

cold escarp
#

for balance?

gloomy nova
#

Yeah sry

cold escarp
#

you're better off playing feral if you're necro

#

necro boomy is ass

gloomy nova
#

Well my whole gear is vers/haste

cold escarp
#

oh

#

right

gloomy nova
#

I know its ass. But its really my only option

#

Just not sure which one i should craft

cold escarp
#

yeah i dont know

#

sry

clear pulsar
#

Swarm affects the initial hit of Regrowth as well, even tho the tooltip would imply it doesn't

#

Haste vers is perfectly good for necro feral

#

You're way better off playing necro feral with slightly worse than ideal stats than necro boomie

#

Assuming you'd be equally new to both

#

@gloomy nova

#

That being said, definitely not BOAT for necro boomie

frail ember
#

Hit 2.1 on resto druid first time this season, who thought it was a good idea to have upgrades cost over 45k honor 😁

novel stone
#

I have a friend who plays a resto Druid. Im thinking about rolling a character to do 2s/3s together. Any recommendations on best class to choose? Willing to play anything

clear pulsar
#

Any of the best specs will be good in 2s

#

But generally casters, lock or spr

#

But also warrior, ret, windwalker

limber plover
#

hey, is rogue/rdruid considered weak comp?

#

I did few rounds with rogue

#

and it didn't feel any good

mental crypt
#

maybe with assa

#

but y doesnt sound good like that

#

Soaz, like the lol player?

misty cobalt
#

Tauren is best resto race right?

#

Hm tauren gives 1% verd

#

Vers

#

I wish humans could be druid

stray sigil
#

tauren for sure

#

just for liek stomp clones

#

1% vers doesnt matter at all

#

and the stun racial is giga impractical

foggy ravine
#

Night elf better imo

#

Meld OP

stoic stirrup
#

Yeah if there is like a chaos bolt or something in the air, and you meld, you are immune to it

#

So once it is casts and the animation has not hit you yet, you can just meld

sage cove
#

@stoic stirrup that cant be true for chaos bolt. Even with cloak of shadows if you do it with chaos bolt mid air its gonna do damage through cloak.

stoic stirrup
#

Try it

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Not cloak of shadows

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Just any nelf

#

Use meld when the bolt is in mid air

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And you become immune

sage cove
#

Shouldnt it work exactly the same as greater fade?

#

Fade bolt mid air = still does damage

#

I cant try it cause I dont have a night elf but if its true I really want one

stoic stirrup
#

Use a class trial

#

And ask for a duel

junior plover
#

Meld is different I think

#

Just like vanish

#

You can vanish a chaos bolt

tardy hare
#

Meld is meld

#

You can meld anything mid air

#

Hoj

#

Stormbolt

#

Chaosbolt

#

Glacial spike

#

Starsurge

lime light
#

Meld rip

tulip falcon
#

well that was an interesting experience with eu rbg the other day

#

turns out theres only 2 teams queueing and everyone else is boosting

#

pepega bracket

junior plover
#

Rbg

tulip falcon
#

apparently eheroes went to us and stomped the ladder

#

now only boost on eu full time

#

actually sad how bad this is

#

i get why people do it but fuck it drained me so hard when i did it for a bit

#

could never boost full time

#

actually fully killed the bracket i've enjoyed for so long now

#

😩

#

blizz will see it as a success because more people are playing

#

exactly

#

blizz will be like wow guys look all these new people playing this dead bracket

#

doesnt matter that 95% above 2.4k are boosted

#

!

lime light
#

Daily reminder that Feji isn't relavant

#

And he is nothing compared to me

#

Iam EL Padrino of this discord

#

That channel is nothing without me

#

Dont mind me, keep going tho

viscid remnant
#

Ok

limber plover
#

hey

#

have anyone tried arcane/boomkin comp?

tardy hare
#

No

junior plover
#

I could beat fuji 1v1

viscid remnant
#

1v1 me rust bro

#

My sniper clan is better than yours

clear pulsar
#

1v1 me in dota

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Shadow fiend, 2 kills or tower

lime light
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1vs1 me in league 6 years ago

viscid remnant
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moba DansGame

lime light
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League was soooo

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Goood

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At this time

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If i had to chose one
-sex with bis girl
-q up solo q bitch

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I would q up

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10 out of 10 times

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Girls are temporary

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Gaming is forever

plucky trout
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We are all temporary

lime light
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No

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Iam ded but not rly

obtuse ice
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You can't have girl and play league

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incompatible

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a lol I can't read nvm

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If you identify yourself as flesh then yes

lime light
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Yes

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No

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Ok not sure

obtuse ice
eternal quest
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do you guys know which team played ww enhance rdruid in the AWC? Cant remember the team want to find the youtube vod

tardy hare
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Girls?

viscid remnant
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But they lost every game im pretty sure

lime light
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They dont know the bug?

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Every arena that el patron enter

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He wins

junior plover
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Not a bug

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Feature

keen phoenix
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So is necro feral viable now? What legendary for that?

lime light
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Draught

rancid laurel
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The real question is how bad would necro feral feel if I was wearing resto haste/verse gear?

languid oxide
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how fast is travel form in arena? 30% 40% 60%?

stray sigil
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daily reminder tian is a rat

arctic rivet
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How come boomies are slowly declining in the higher ratings?

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there’s more Dks now in higher CR ratings

weak hinge
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because feral is the spec to go my man

frail ember
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Roughly how terrible would affli/boomkin/holy priest be as necro circle chicken?

unique brook
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Verdant Infusion for RBGs?

honest mesa
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Symmetry lego bru

weak hinge
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anyone tried deep roots + prickling thorns in rbg?

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@frail ember necro boomie is shit but its still a good class so the comp will do fine.

magic sparrow
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Its not that great since p thorns does less damage with mass entangle

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and theres usually alot of other AOE damage that breaks your roots even with deep roots up

frail ember
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Tried it in epic bg and it only ticks for like 1k with mass entangle

magic sparrow
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it ticks for 1/5th damage I think with mass entangle

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that said I always run it when playing ebgs since you can root big mobs of people (just a little underwealming)

dreamy aspen
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can i double check something

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if you root-beam someone and you convoke them does it target them?

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or does it do nothing because they are the only target in range and are sitting a root

green valve
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Rip dmx

dreamy aspen
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so it does nothing?

green valve
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No convoke doesnt hit breakable cc

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Will shoot into clones/stun/hard cc

dreamy aspen
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then those boomies who tried doing that to me defending bases are idiots

green valve
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Yea

dreamy aspen
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unless they anticipated a trinket