Tbh 137 games in 10 days is pretty impressive for effort
#pvp
clear pulsar
But you gotta come to terms with the fact that you have a negative win rate at about half the rating of bad players
lime light
mobility boots - YEP
run it down - YEP
5x tear - YEP
maybe he dont lose cr, he just dont gain any
clear pulsar
I thought it was until a bit under 1400 cuz 1400 is the first ranked bracket
Then someone told me the other day there are people losing rating at 800
I was a bit shocked
sinful canyon
i think its 1200
i gotta get my renown up so u fellas can watch me int at 1800 as kyrian now
clear pulsar
@mighty river if you'd asked for basic content to help you understand arena better, or something about how to get started, general concepts and shit, would have gone over much better. Paying for someone to carry you is very frowned upon and people will clap back when you start calling everyone kids, saying they have issues, and making fun of grammar mistakes in their non-native languages.
Pretty rude tbh
Bro why did this guy disappear
I was watching godzilla v kong
And missed all the fun wtf
clear pulsar
Also who the fuck is whispering him saying we're toxic and unhelpful?
I am super helpful
surreal heron
Don't entice
clear pulsar
surreal heron
Yes, what you said is fine but it doesn't need to be dragged out anymore
lime light
iam biggest helper in this area
surreal heron
Probably not
surreal heron
What a high bar...
surreal heron
clear pulsar
$nobully
last owlBOT
sinful canyon
face patron and fuji have all been sick for help
lime light
iam the guardian expert too
stray sigil
$report thyme
clear pulsar
Shoulda seen the golden days when machtig wasnt washed and we had remi talking all day, zechey whining all day
Was good times
stray sigil
did he
lime light
to hear it again
stray sigil
this ssn?
clear pulsar
I think so yeah
lime light
think so?
surreal heron
Good thing the guardian regulars aren't here to see you use the gorilla bear form
lime light
is it not allowed?
clear pulsar
Balance of power bear is best
clear pulsar
@surreal heron right?
surreal heron
It's just not a popular form
clear pulsar
No you arent
surreal heron
I like it, it's rather high on my list
stray sigil
well we are both multi glad
surreal heron
Should wear the totems, they go well with the skin
stray sigil
no shot we dont win everygame right
lime light
ye, i faced zechey in mirror like tons of times
never lost
till he rolled bm jungle
this ssn
clear pulsar
I'm back night fae this week @stray sigil
surreal heron
Totems are tauren only tho
Are they, damn
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
Well yeah BM hunter has 2 ferals
surreal heron
stray sigil
dude dont do me like this
clear pulsar
Oh that, I thought you meant the tauren heritage armor
clear pulsar
surreal heron
lime light
till ppl make me angry
stray sigil
ur always angry
surreal heron
Okay hulk
clear pulsar
GOAT mog
lime light
horrible belt
stray sigil
u cant be srs
clear pulsar
Reminds me of my dh main days in legion
stray sigil
thats so fuciing bad
clear pulsar
Simpler times
stray sigil
literally awful
clear pulsar
AOE battle cry was so silly
Good times
I literally peaked in my 2nd week of playing arena
stray sigil
i ahve no idea what ur sauionmg to me
lime light
AND THERE IS NOTHING U CAN DO
clear pulsar
@stray sigil
stray sigil
i still dont know what that is
clear pulsar
It's current Recklessness
lime light
monkaW
clear pulsar
Was the warrior main cd
Gave 100% crit
DH Arms was ridiculous
Actually ridiculous
Idk if you actually didn't play legion but
DH imprison was 15s cd
stray sigil
i played super casual inu legion
clear pulsar
And havoc had really good 1-min burst to pair with aoe Battle Cry
stray sigil
only played last ssn of legion for like 1 week
clear pulsar
Arms DH was super busted the season I started playing
clear pulsar
They had heroism 1min too but enhance wasnt very strong at least in the 2nd half of legion
Thunder was rly good tho
Cdew and Mes played hella arms DH
And Trill ofc
clear pulsar
Yeah lmao peep this @stray sigil Earth Shock stunned for 2 seconds, with no DR, and there was a talent that gave it a 20% chance to fully refund the maelstrom
stray sigil
ah ya kinda remember that
tough basin
hey guys, how well does bleed feral perform rn with necro? is it worth swapping to?
clear pulsar
It's good if you wanna play it
"Worth swapping to" like idk what that means
It won't magically get you rating
Unless you're venthyr
clear pulsar
stray sigil
will ya
crisp dew
idk i'm deeply enjoying my night fae "one button auto-melt"
tough basin
It won't magically get you rating
that's not the reasoning behind the statement, more so is the playstyle fun or overall boring
im asking if it's actually viable or just a quick fotm thing
bite playstyle is fun cuz big numbers but i've a;ways been a fan of the bleed. considering making a second feral solely for it
ty for info!
haughty compass
Frenzy band Venthyr yo
chrome panther
clear pulsar
somber hazel
I looked at the pins, who should I watch for feral pvp that is a huge list
Any recommendations
clear pulsar
The ones in the pins
somber hazel
The ones in the pins
i said that smooth brain, a lot are old and its a big list
thank you glyph, youre lovely as always
somber hazel
youre lovely too
clear pulsar
Thing is
You asked for recommendations
They're in hte pins. If they weren't recommended, they wouldn't be in the pins
somber hazel
asked for recommendations out of the recommendations as my brain is smooth
topaz mesa
what covanent are people running in rated 10v10 for resto? is resto wanted at this level
somber hazel
Thank you
chrome panther
what covanent are people running in rated 10v10 for resto? is resto wanted at th...
just play balance.
rough holly
With regards to balance, are people moving away from night fae and convoke? Feel like I've arrived late to the party. Mainly just run RBGs
chrome panther
meta is double disc hpal.
rough holly
Also I've noticed a few times my convoke has ended up casting a ton of healing spells and not dmg whilst being in moonkin form
chrome panther
for rbgs I don't see much reason to go kyr over NF.
rough holly
Any idea as to why?
Ah right, makes sense! Cheers
Also on a separate note I cast mass entanglement and solar beam on a boss in torghast and tried convoking after popping incarn, and it didn't do anything ?
Maybe stupid questions but I'm fairly new to boomy 😅
tardy hare
Yes
crystal field
Thanks.
lime light
@stray sigil idiota
main spade
As necro feral do is still use shred with lunar inspiration if my target already has moonfire dot and brutal slash is on cd?
lime light
only on zerker
otherwise u just want moonfire moonfire
Face said that its worth to rake at this point, cuz initial dmg of rake is buffed by draught and swarm i belive
also mastery
but its a myth for me
just spam moonfire
also
when u get omen proc, prolly best way to use it is shred
but its soo minimal gain/lose
main spade
Thanks!
lime light
its not the way to go
all 3 covenants are good
some of them are better in X comps, some worst
necro is biggest DPS, good survi
bleed focused build
u have decent pressure outside of Feral freanzy + swarm goes
Kyrian is build made around
big bites
with symmetry
and feral freanzy
every 1 min
NF is mostly one trick pony - > that u can abuse in 2s (less players can stop u, u can set it up easier) or caster comps in 3s
mostly fmp fmpala
wind linden
Mhm, necro reads itself tempting
lime light
all 3 of them are decent at something, most of the ferals swaped, cuz got bored of "press kyrian and gain 15% dmg"
or get anoyed by convoke mechanic
my main was kyrian, my alt is NF
swaped main to necro
a while ago, and having fun
its kinda old-school'ish playstyle
when u were supposed to bleed one target
and go for cc, kite
(cuz u wanna play draught so no multibleeding mostly)
wind linden
nice, sounds fun
wind linden
shapeshift from cat into cat within one global doesnt work anymore or does it?
gloomy nova
How tf can hunters feign death be allowed to be 15 sec cd?
As if they need an offensive legendary
ebon vortex
the feign leggo is kinda insane
cold escarp
does it remove bleeds too?
lime light
ofc
it used to remove things like warbreaker
dunno if its still a thing
they did some changes with that lego
cold escarp
thats so busted
makes me want to try hunter
but fuck this expansion is so alt unfriendly
cant imagine grinding out 10k conquest on fresh char now
lime light
if u have a boi
or a healer egirl to play with
shouldnt be bad
just q up
u gotta lose to backpedlers, apes, baboons
thats for sure
but u gonna get there slowly
surreal heron
?
lime light
he just like grils
obtuse ice
not not at all
surreal heron
tardy hare
https://tenor.com/view/ding-ding-ding-alistar-league-of-legends-cow-bell-gif-133...
Traumarised by that sound
ebon vortex
but fuck this expansion is so alt unfriendly
Its not as bad as BFA at least
my second alt is almost 220 now
only started playing it when 9.0.5 came out
0-1600 is easy to do and then rbg spam can easily get you to 213
once you've done cov campaign and got your leggo you can defo do 2s
then just go from there
cold escarp
i quit bfa like 2 month in for that reason
and ye i know its doable it just takes like a month to catch up and i already have 3 characters to maintain
cold escarp
i think ill just wait for s2 to do another char
ebon vortex
and maybe increased honor from rated a little bit
cold escarp
in s2 honor gear will be better than current conquest
ebon vortex
I did 20 rbgs after getting 1800 in 2s and my gear is still not all 220 lmfao
tardy hare
Catchup for alts would be neat
ebon vortex
would be nice if the max upgrade level was based off of your highest rating gained
Like Valor gear is
could even cap it at 220 if they wanted
ebon vortex
yeah if you get keystone master you can upgrade gear to 220 on all your alts
ebon vortex
would be nice
imo the other option is just scaling PvP gear to a certain ilvl
or just keeping it as it but increasing conquest and honor
the difference between like 200 and 220 is insane
ebon vortex
I barely burn mana anymore with 218 gear at 1800
but before I was having to pump regrowths into people a lot
played with an ele shaman who was 184 once
basically did nothing
got 213 gear and was clapping the other team
its insane how much of a difference it makes lol
cold escarp
they downscaled the ilvl but not ilvl jumps
in legion going from 800 ilvl to 813 is small boost
now going from 200 to 213
idk how after so many years blizz keeps making such dumb mistakes
ebon vortex
having like 4 significant ilvl gaps is a big problem imo
but they prolly want to keep it that way so progressing through raid difficulties in pve feels rewarding
cold escarp
they could easily just do so it jumps 5 ilvls between difficulties instead of 13
i think blizzard suffers from peter principle
ion is a bad lead game designer
ebon vortex
when the d3 devs came to work on legion they kinda fucked loot a bit
rancid laurel
Has anyone tried running deep focus like markers does in 2s as resto? Does it only work bc he’s playing at the level he does or is it actually as strong as he makes it look?
ebon vortex
its defo a meme build imo
if you have the spare soul ash and gold then you might as well try it lmao
but i wouldn't unless you have 235 vi already
Its also basically 0 healing benefit so you need a competent partner for it to work
rancid laurel
I’m almost exclusively doing 2s with a glad warrior on his alt warrior that is also 226 ilvl. I don’t do 3s on rdruid bc I do those on my main shaman and like 3s more as shaman tbh. (Meatballin is fun). But 2s feral aff harassment feels like a rogue that heals and is some of the most fun I’ve had in a while. Gonna go ahead and grab the VI first tho bc I don’t wanna be held back on duelist bc I’m full aggro build.
plucky trout
How does it work with germ
ebon vortex
good question
rancid laurel
I would hope as germ is effectively a different hot that it wouldn’t bother any, would be nice if someone could test tho
ebon vortex
it does say "one target"
rancid laurel
It can be tested in torghast
ebon vortex
yeah if you get the power it's basically the same thing
rancid laurel
I feel like circle would be a better leggo then deep focus tbh. It’s better at managing, better for multidotting and split pressure, good leggo for pve.
ebon vortex
circle will make you spend much more mana on healing
because it reduces the overall duration of your hots
rancid laurel
Requires more maintenance and observation to not over heal.. gotcha. Do resto druids still have haste breakpoints? Is that a thing?
ebon vortex
not that we care about in pvp
there's one leggo that benefits from 20% haste but it's shit in pvp
we just wanna stack as much Vers as possible and aim for secondary haste
rancid laurel
My druids only like 197 I think I’m a while from 20%. Hopefully VI wb is up this week coming.
Yeah I’m almost 100% haste/verse now
rancid laurel
Yeah I did a spreadsheet this weekend and saw that
viscid remnant
Tbh alts aren't bad
alts are awful because there is no scaling
honest garden
I dunno I can full conq gear in two days
cold escarp
bs
its like 9k conquest how tf u gonna get that in 2 daqys
3s win is 35 conq thats assuming you will win with 185 ilvl gear
cold escarp
yes but a team that takes 185 ilvl ppl is gonna lose more than win
ebon vortex
if you have a big group of people its ok
cold escarp
big group of 185 ilvls?
ebon vortex
was in a group with 200 average ilvl and we had 70% win rate
we had a rogue with 150 ilvl lol
cold escarp
ill try that
ebon vortex
but tbf it was with a group ive played with for a while and with comms
cold escarp
oh
yeah thats not something most ppl got
us regular folk are at the mercy of LFG tool
ebon vortex
i mean i just got invited one day from someone who i met through doing a lot of 3s with lol
swift hornet
the pain of what
lower ur mmr to 500 and spam games there with 2-1 winratio
then repeat
if u have a friend to q with ofcourse
viscid remnant
its still annoying as hell
tardy hare
You can cap in 2 days
How tf u catch up on conquest in 2 days
stray sigil
maybe if u rbg all day
tardy hare
That's like
stray sigil
no other way
stray sigil
ye
tardy hare
Thats like
stray sigil
thats like 90 wins or so
tardy hare
90 wins
stray sigil
LOL
stray sigil
ya i thinl that guy was on crack when he said that
im sure he meant arenas too ontop of it
its like what 400 2s win atleast
or something
thats like minimum 20h of 2s
viscid remnant
krek is tasty what can i say :DD
viscid remnant
just play the game looooooool
viscid remnant
yeah after playing at low cr
tardy hare
Yeah
viscid remnant
with full elite gear
blissful belfry
and trying to win 400 games
You win nearly as many games at 200 ilvl compared to 226 ilvl. The only difference is your cr / mmr
Hell, you can even argue you win faster at lower ilvl because people play like shit and die on the first go
jagged loom
any decent guides for tank rbgs i cant find anything on youtube
viscid remnant
You win nearly as many games at 200 ilvl compared to 226 ilvl. The only differen...
Game length matters plus being low geared is an inherent disadvantage to your winrate because of how many people have rival/duelist rbg gear and play at 1600cr
blissful belfry
Your mmr will naturally try to balance you at around 50% win rate. Doesnt matter if you play at 2100 or 800 mmr. The main way to get conquest faster in a specific bracket is to win fast / lose fast and move to the next game.
viscid remnant
So game length matters
blissful belfry
the only thing that matters is game lengths
best way to grind conq is double dps 1 shot combo and /afk if you fail
(in 2s)
gloomy nova
I enter arena and all my spells say "invalid target". Cant target anything, whats up with that?
blissful belfry
Its a pretty vague description of your bug. Could be a myriad of things with that little info
is it only in arena. are you unable to target any ennemies at all?
can you cast friendly spells on friendly targets?
Do you use macro
is it really ''all'' spells or your most used spells
cinder saddle
Anyone try out necro bear in rbgs? Or is it just crap
tardy hare
Pretty irrelevant
vague mural
thinking about making the swap from NF to necro, i saw a lot of top ferals swapping to it in 3s, any idea how good necro is in 2v2 too?
queen drift
@vague mural I watched a stream yesterday and it seemed strong. Good pressure and you're really hard to kill
vague mural
i love that lol i missed bleed feral xD
what lego is recommended? im guessing deep focus?
clear pulsar
Necro feral is good
It's not some groundbreaking damage that will climb you rating you're missing with kyrian or night fae but it's just as good
Just different
blissful belfry
A need a boomy + shadow priest 2s guide. Tryna push some of it with my friend, but we are terrible. ( i say we, but i mean he). Anyone know if theres a boomy streamer amongst the list who has played a lot of it
cold escarp
sounds like a shit comp tbh
id recommend one of u go heal and u will climb way faster
somber hazel
i wanna try boomy healer 2s, do you cast starfire out of procs? or just spam wrath
trim moth
@somber hazel definitely don’t spam wrath. You should be rotating eclipses.
somber hazel
okay cool, ill watch a few streamers to get the general gist
cold escarp
it depends
if u had like 4 starsurges in your lunar eclipse
u can cast few starfires because they will do good dmg
but usually u rarely cast other than to enter eclipse
somber hazel
oh so even in lunar eclipse i would spam wrath?
somber hazel
NF
cold escarp
and what healer?
somber hazel
I just pug them but normally priest/pally
cold escarp
so basically u wanna do a go when ur partner stuns the dps and clone/fear on healer
to do a go u need 90+ astral
and then u enter eclipse and dump surges or convoke
somber hazel
i had someone tell me i Just CA and convoke immediately
and not to worry about the 90 ap
unless im doing a mini non CA burst when i hit an eclipse
cold escarp
and all the time between goes all ur doing is building astral and helping your healer not die or if they go on you you aovid dmg to ease on your healer's mana pool
thats it
u never try to kill outside of ur burst windows
yes if u have convoke u dont have to build 90 cause convoke will generate the ap
somber hazel
ahh okay thank you very much sir=p
i was too worried about pressure outside of convoke/ca
cold escarp
dont
all u have to do is build astral and avoid as much dmg as possilbe so ur healer doesnt spend mana
in 2s games often go into deep dampen so mana is very important
somber hazel
okay thank you again
safe heart
Are mw's as bad as they sound
I played with one last night and lost 100rating
Feral/mw
lime light
feral mw was never a good comp
u can use mw in some comps, but its prolly worst healer
safe heart
He was the only one listed at my cr 🥺
It felt pretty bad I'll say that
Felt like I had to all the cc and all the damage and heal myself lol
forest kite
what finesse do u guys use on pelagos?
viscid remnant
Mw is bad simply because of the fact that every other healer doesnt really need to cast
While mw heals only while casting
Plus its extremely squishy
pine hatch
tbc classic ferals - is maim actually useful in arenas as a feral? there's no combo point carryover, right? so youd have to build points, then maim (but it not being a stun.. kinda defeats the point then)? please prove me wrong
cold escarp
what finesse do u guys use on pelagos?
tireless pursuit
viscid remnant
tbc classic ferals - is maim actually useful in arenas as a feral? there's no co...
Feral is pretty awful in tbc arena
Pretty much a bad rogue
static pilot
Is necro boomie just awful?
teal hinge
Bis
clear pulsar
Boomie is a good base spec and necro certainly adds a bit of damage
Especially cuz it buffs fury of elune
But it's not a good choice generally
Very playable tho
forest kite
I hopped around covenants and kyrian just felt the greatest in arena for me, for boomie at least, even with low renown I was winning more
cold escarp
every spec is okay with necro now because of how strong the soulbinds and fleshcraft are
also fleshcraft still not affected by dampen so abuse while u can
weak hinge
necro feral good in 2s?
forest kite
Could anyone help me with a troll convoke button?
clear pulsar
Don't do that
weak hinge
i feel like necro feral gets countered so hard by hunter haha
and hunter is giga meta in 2s rn
stoic stirrup
I just want a straight answer not an explanation. What is better kyrian boomy or night fae boomy
clear pulsar
Kyrian is better if you like Kyrian, Night Fae is better if you like Night Fae
Necro best covenant hall
teal hinge
Necro circle shreds
stoic stirrup
Venthyr hall just depression 😂
weak hinge
Anyone tried necro boomy with circle? I feel like boat or dreambinder is still better for it
clear pulsar
Glyph just a hater
Smh
I bet you dont even have circle crafted
And didn't play root dot either
tiny tusk
if im a moonkin playing with a mage, should i be playing solstice? or does it really matter
stoic stirrup
if im a moonkin playing with a mage, should i be playing solstice? or does it re...
Correct me if I’m wrong solstice is the talent which makes shootign stars fall faster right?
Imo I believe fury of elune is better for 2’s
Especially if kyrian cause you need some astral power for your short window of domination.
clear pulsar
I think solstice is safe and comfy if you aren't very very aware of holding fury when healer is sheeped
stoic stirrup
Yeah solstice occurs when u eclipse right?
But if you use starfall you are wasting astral power, causing you to have not enough for your balance of all things window imo
clear pulsar
Starfall has nothing to do with solstice or fury of elune
Pls read the talents again
stoic stirrup
Doesn’t shooting stars occur when you starfall?
clear pulsar
Well, read your whole spellbook again
blissful belfry
not drudi related, but does howl of terror dr cyclone or not
think its a disorient and not a fear right
clear pulsar
Should, howl of terror is a regular fear
tiny tusk
tyty
blissful belfry
kk
dark scroll
not drudi related, but does howl of terror dr cyclone or not
How is cyclone not related to druid
clear pulsar
It's boomie brain bro don't think about it too much @dark scroll
dark scroll
Feral superiority
blissful belfry
yeah for a sec i thought about incapacition
dark scroll
Incapacitation*
blissful belfry
yeah, at start my question was more like, does howl of terror dr with fear,, but then i said clone cuz its same dr
dark scroll
Incap for short
clear pulsar
Yeah generally the wording is incap is one DR, disorient is another
But there are some spells with diff words
That are on same dr
Cyclone does say 'disorient' in the tooltip
blissful belfry
no i know
i just thought for a sec howl of terror was on disorient dr
incap*
actually
english isnt mother tongue, fucking my brain up
ook ook
hollow hollow
Have you guys tested Natural Order's Will legendary as feral in PvP? Was considering making it for a tankier build but not sure if its worth the soul ash
hollow hollow
I saw that but was wondering if anyone had some playtime with it to confirm if its worth crafting :p
tiny tusk
not the best example but i tried it a few times in 2s
only 190 ilvl but
still didnt save me from the mage rogue burst
unkempt wind
if you pre bear at high hp and skin at like 90% with the lego theres no way you die
even with 190 ilvl
especially if you have well-honed
stray sigil
ilvl on lego barely matters
tropic panther
is there an addon that reminds you to use the kindred spirits and steward?
at beginnign of arena
stray sigil
make a weak aura for it
stray sigil
line the kidney bro
somber hazel
I just had a windwalker shot my rogue playing ass/resto at 2k what the fuck
somber vale
what is the lego for gurdian pvp in RBG's?
pliant tulip
Hey does non-rated battlegrounds put you in with people at your same ilvl, or does it just put in whoever is in the queue?
Sorry I’m new to PvP lol
Or honor level
tardy hare
Hey does non-rated battlegrounds put you in with people at your same ilvl, or do...
Whoever is in queue
Dude open your eyes wtf
pliant tulip
Cool ty
vagrant crane
Would it be a lot harder to hit glad on boomie as opposed to eg warrior? Aiming for 1st glad but dont wanna gimp myself too much
tardy hare
No
tough meadow
guys can someone help me out,how am i supposed to play balance druid in rated bgs ? i feel like im not impactful enough
stoic stirrup
Fml, I got one shotted by a guardian Druid who is balance affinity. He convoked me. GUARDIAN DROOD!
tardy hare
guys can someone help me out,how am i supposed to play balance druid in rated bg...
You pool astral power, then pump surges into the target that gets called
stoic stirrup
guys can someone help me out,how am i supposed to play balance druid in rated bg...
Convoke... anyways all high ranked rbg groups almost always needs a boomkin it’s op
tardy hare
In the meantime just cyclone enemy people their cooldowns 
tough meadow
when i convoke
i instantly get cced usually
cause they expect it
what do you do then ?
or how do you prepare for a convoke
i found out that its nice when enemy is overextending and i try to kill them,but otherwise in a big group fight
im scared to convoke
tough meadow
Does anyone know the twitch name of this one balance druid, his name is calmel
Maybe i can learn one or two things watching him bg
river juniper
playing warr/boomkin/hpala, how should be setting up convokes? any tips?
fast vale
Just starting out as resto so go easy 😂... only been playing it for a few days and at just over 1.5cr so still v low.
I’m struggling to get the balance between aggression and surviving. I feel like the general playstyle should be to get lots of stuns off etc, but I seem to just get clapped hard whenever I push in, or am super exposed to CC. Any beginner tips? 😂
Tend to find it goes better if I play guardian and just be more cagey, but feels like I’m leaving a tonne of impact on the table
ebon vortex
2s or 3s
in 3s i would personally always recommend playing guardian over feral
in 2s you should always aim to restealth and rake stun
and ocassionally go into clone
from a maim/rake stun
pushing in to clone without anything else is really easily punishable so you should be careful when doing that
if they switch to you just sit in bear and try and kite, tireless pursuit is very good for getting away since you can shift travel -> bear and have 40% move speed still
and try and keep hots going on yourself by extending with swiftmend
river juniper
gotcha, thanks
gloomy nova
If u are struggling with the offensive play in 2s, as in getting caught and punished alot, then honestly just dont play very offensively. If u play with a hunter or warrior u dont need to do that much
jade heart
Watch mmarkers on twitch, he’s the most aggressive rdruid I’ve come across . Very helpful too
plucky steeple
Hi guys, i am fairly new to druid...feral to be exact i only want to play feral... is necro better than night fae? i know necro is pretty tanky and for bleed build but convoke just still seems gnarley.. whats peoples thoughts?
sorry for coming in if its already been discusse dbut scrolled up and couldent find anything
i dont play pve 🙂 only pvp
clear pulsar
Night fae is easily and safely the 3rd best covenant
The conversation is really kyrian vs necro tbh
plucky steeple
ahhh :/ kyrian can be quite 1 shot cant it?
necro seems to be the long game
am i right in saying that?
tiny tusk
Don't think ur gonna be oneshotting things as Kyrian feral
plucky steeple
can you as necro?
rough holly
Currently still playing with convoke as balance, what are the best conduits to get ?
fast vale
Should I race change Tauren? 😂 not sure about my troll choice
fast vale
Stomp seems nice though ^^
white sun
For NF boomie what is the potency conduit we use with Niya
teal hinge
Conflux
keen phoenix
For RBG as bear, is still NF the way to go? Was looking at necro as an option
honest mesa
Nf for blink
blissful belfry
After nearly 500 games of arena with this friend warlock i keep complaining about. He just confessed that he didnt have gladius or similar add on and wasnt tracking any DR
And i put efforts in that
I put fucking efforts
man i swear
blissful belfry
imagine being a warlock, with a spammable fear, and not fucking tracking dr
blissful belfry
I kept telling him, ''why are you fearing him, he's full dr'' ''do you look at your dr??''
he doesnt even have something to track em...
clear pulsar
Like there are definitely people that I am completely unwilling to play with cuz their UI makes me vomit
blissful belfry
Yeah, i had a friend come and look at him stream on discord to see what we can improve on his end
clear pulsar
But yeah scout their UIs and force feed them addons that will help
clear pulsar
Yeah, i had a friend come and look at him stream on discord to see what we can i...
Conclusion: literally everything
blissful belfry
yeah
I mean, we were playing shadowplay
THE EASIEST SHIT IN THE WORLD
and we struggled at 1700
Then the dude installeg gladius, but kept his frame, my guy watching the stream was like, why do you have the ennemy frames twice
...
obsidian aurora
Anyone know how much haste you need to land db into ring of frost consistently?
obsidian aurora
ty
orchid badge
What is more viable for a medium skilled player in 2s - Boomkin or Feral? I've been playing Boomkin for Rated BGs and enjoy it, but would like skill up in 2s as either of those specs.
somber hazel
What is more viable for a medium skilled player in 2s - Boomkin or Feral? I've ...
If you can find enough keybinds then prob feral with a healer will be the easiest
clear pulsar
Flop getting paid bro
viscid remnant
True i got a gifter too
forest kite
Hey for rbg’s is guardian Druid the most wanted to base sit. Or is damage classes wanted aswell ?
tardy hare
Guardian
trim moth
@forest kite Balance is an amazing base sitter with Force of Nature and the Natural Orders Will legendary if you wanted to be versatile. Guardian is definitely great too. You don't HAVE to be guardian to base sit.
tardy hare
Guardian just hella fucking OP for base defending
trim moth
Oh fur sure
clear pulsar
Balance is just hella fucking OP for base defending
weak hinge
@clear pulsar
balmy vortex
clear pulsar
Yeah it's what everyone seems to run @weak hinge
I just went back necro today
Some max hp increase effect falling off probably @balmy vortex
Like earth elemental conduit, or emblem trinket
clear pulsar
Thrash is close to damage neutral without AS at a certain amount of haste and mastery cuz those stats don't scale up Shred
So yeah you def press it if you're necro
Idk probably holding one for the other depends on timing of your damage / if you're ccd as one is coming off cd etc, in pve you just use every other FF without TF, no waiting. Hopefully you play vs a caster and savage momentum helps you line them up better 
weak hinge
savage momentum is good?
forest kite
Wow never thought of necro guardian that’s would be tacky as hell
weak hinge
do i not play ferocious wound as necro?
clear pulsar
The point where thrash is more damage per cast than shred is like, 20% haste 40% mastery
Without accounting for AS damage buff at all
forest kite
Hmm how to build the perfect class for rbg team or even epic bg’s. All I wannna do is spam epic bg’s And guardian is looking like it
clear pulsar
do i not play ferocious wound as necro?
Probably still do if you're like, training one target the whole game
weak hinge
so how am i supposed to fit in savage momentum
forest kite
I take it having all pvp gear is best what verse mastery
clear pulsar
And shove it in every now and again
@forest kite for guardian? Yeah I think generally people go vers mastery > vers haste gear
forest kite
Nice @clear pulsar thank you.
stray sigil
u play wound if u play soul i think
if u go roar u dont play wound cuz u wont keep the debuff on
blazing kite
I play guardian for all PVE content and im kinda lazy to grab intellect gear for pvp, so is feral a viable choice for pvp?
clear pulsar
Intellect gear is the same as agility gear
Except for weapon
But yes feral's viable and good
Boomie is too
blazing kite
Ok ty, also for rated BG's, is guardian a good choice as tank?
clear pulsar
Guardian is really good in rbgs cuz of legacy of the sleeper legendary
blazing kite
ok ty
rough briar
Does someone know a WA or addon that shows who is targeted like battleground targets just for arena?
dark scroll
Look up target of target weakaura.
If you have a bit of technical knowhow, it doesnt sound like a difficult thing to slightly rewrite
clear pulsar
Do you use gladius? @rough briar
GladiusEX shows target of target in arena frames
And looks very similar to Gladius anyway
dark scroll
Face2face with smart brain
clear pulsar
Any fleshcrafters in chat? Without priest buff
dark scroll
Damn
dark scroll
Bro I buy GME of course I'm smooth brain
teal hinge
A true ape
rough briar
Would love a WeakAura like the health stone limit WeakAura damn
forest kite
so whats the best covenant if ur gonna main a guardian for rbgs epic bg's ? necrolord or still night fae
tall knoll
@forest kite guardian druid that can Switch to boomie when base sitting is not needed. Then you are pretty much in the best position to find groups for rbgs
Pugging sucks though >.>
For covenant i have no idea but nightfae is still decent to convoke with boomie affinity
forest kite
ok thanks
tired hinge
anybody know if 2h does more damage than a 1h/oh combo for a boomkin in bear/cat form?
vapid nexus
1.05 or 1.5 times 0 is still 0
forest kite
misty cobalt
Is highmountain tauren better the. Zandalari for vers increase?
clear pulsar
The same as it does without
clear pulsar
Is highmountain tauren better the. Zandalari for vers increase?
Zandalari is the most useless horde race for druid in pvp, highmountain is a bit better, but it's a more gimmicky tauren, warstomp is more consistently valuable
Yes
smoky needle
If I want to start PvPing as guardian druid, what type of battle should I do?
misty cobalt
Battle?
misty cobalt
Depends if ur a good player or u suck
If u suck then try to learn and farm honor for ilvl 197 gear and learn your class and how to play vs other classes
Then maybe do. Rated battlegrounds
misty cobalt
Um
smoky needle
but never pvped before
misty cobalt
U are ready for pvp lol
Just que into a couole random battlegrounds
Or play worh friends who can heal u
And carry flags
smoky needle
uhhh
I'll go do some research lol. not sure what flags are
Im guessing capture the flag
and dang. I played my first arena skirmish it was fun
my teammate died in like 10 seconds
smoky needle
but the warrior and the mage couldnt kill me, and I fought them for like 5 mins
smoky needle
Ummm.. which way can get me the most honor? I'm trying to get honor levels
or which way is better for tank
misty cobalt
Battle grounds for sure
U can get like 1000 honor for the first win of the day
And 800 per game after
Its so good for farming
smoky needle
wow!
misty cobalt
But rated battlegrounds are tough
Since u dont know what a flag is
Go into lfr
And look for shitty groups
That say yolo
Lol
misty cobalt
I dont know how a 225 item level person could be so clueless about pvp
Strange world we live in
smoky needle
Idk lol. This is my first expansion and I see people in my guild talk about pvp but I've never really played it. I just tank m+ for all my gear
need honor levels for more bear forms
smoky needle
dang lol
oh, also
do honor levels take more honor to level up the higher you get?
misty cobalt
I am leveling a highmountain resto druid
misty cobalt
Google how long it takes
No, thats orobbably easy
I play a good amount and i am honor level 32
smoky needle
hmmm.. that still sounds like a lot of time lol
since you seem like you know alot about pvp
clear pulsar
Honor lvl 32 is pretty low
For people that primarily pvp as their endgame progression mode
clear pulsar
Random battle ground, random epic battlegrounds, or arena skirmish?
Skirmish is pretty small honor gains
Random bgs are good honor if you can guarantee a high win rate, like with a 5-man premade that stomps over the games, while epics are semi-afk watching netflix honor farm spam
Rated is better honor than random
But also you're never gonna be able to sustain a super high win rate in rated since the nature of having a ladder/ranking is that you get matched with teams of equal skill, bringing you close to a 50% ratio
smoky needle
thanks! Don't you need a team to play rated though?
clear pulsar
As much as you need a guild to raid normal
Or do m+
Which
No
Not a team in terms of signing up with a charter in dalaran sewers
Just get a group together in lfg like you do for pve
desert mantle
I'm not, I feel bad for whoever gets stuck with me lol
smoky needle
I must be super lucky or something
ive won the last 10 arena skirmishes ive played
sometimes 2v1 too
or maybe im winning cuz of ilvl..
nvm. I just died to stun and convoke lol
does anyone know the add on that tells you what the other team comp is before the game starts?
clear pulsar
You're probably the only person above 200 ilvl queueing skirms
smoky needle
Okay, i've successfully infiltrated a low cr rbg
the description said link exp/vers but idk what that meant
how do you link your stats..?
just gotta find a match and theyre stuck with me
theyre asking me to run the flag
I have no clue
they wont explain
nvm
I know now
cinder saddle
You're probably the only person above 200 ilvl queueing skirms
I consistently get 220 players in skirms
Any good resto players i can watch?
Trying to run it in arena after playing bear in rbg
cursive condor
I am on my honor cap but my rating is still to low to upgrade stuff. What should i buy for it? rings / necks or trinkets `? What slot does not care alot of iteam lvl? thanks
cinder saddle
Accessories first i usually do on my alts
cursive condor
Accessories first i usually do on my alts
What do you mean by that? Trinkets ?
sage cove
Hi guys, got a noob question here if anyone wanna help out: how does combo point works as a resto druid? Do they fall off after a while when I go caster form? Do they fall off out of combat? Cant really figure out how it works
tiny tusk
pretty sure they work the same for all, they do fall after a while but not sure exactly how long that takes
fresh fable
Another noob question: If I am resto and I enchant agility on my boots, does it have any impact on my dodge chance, or does it not impact because its not listed on my character sheet
loud wedge
Does not impact
stoic fulcrum
Hello is there any imba and most complete guides for guardian druid in RBG's environment? Thanks for the tips
ornate yarrow
hey all, has any1 already played balance pvp today in arena already? for some reason 3 matches in a row my convoke only casts heals in boomy form, has this been nerfed?
heady marsh
Nothing has changed
ornate yarrow
hmm weird must be extremely unlucky rng
hollow cypress
Anyone have a good resource for macros?
molten creek
hmm weird must be extremely unlucky rng
You weren’t too far from targets, were you?
weak hinge
my minmax senses are tingling so hard for necro feral
when do i refresh rip, do i save TF for FF, what's optimal swarm usage - ooof
think i'll just spam buttons for now and try to get used to being a cat.
neon rover
yesterday i did 10 games in 3v3 at 1700~ mmr with my alt trying to get Rival to upgrade my gear. At least 5 games the other team had Glad assholes with 227+ ilvl boosting clients. Very fun to play the game 
tough meadow
Between 1500 and 1800 mmr is the worst I think
I decided to play few games on my monk at 1.5 cr.. It was horrible lol
Rogues one shotting, glads boosting
Max geared
neon rover
Blizzard should do something about that. They are better than me of course, but the gear difference make me have 0 chance against a fucking DH doing 2x the damage of my 2 DPS partners combined.
always the same case, you find them in raider.io, 233 weapons, 226 gear every slot, 1300 cr 
cancer
tough meadow
Yeah.. It is, I kind of just gave up on complaining about it too.
I'll stick to rated bgs from now on
Maybe lvl some new classes, get them going for the next patch or something idk
They have to put some kind of a system where you either get the chance to catch up to everyone els with gear, or just put againts people with equal or at least close to it gear ivll
Idk why they messed it up so hard this time
And previous season you were getting a patch every 70 days
Now it's a lot longer, like over 200 days
neon rover
Yeah, i'll have to go to RBGs too, but the sad thing is that i like arena, i'm a 2100-2200 player and i'm enjoying playing with my Resto Druid alt. But it's impossible to grind rating in arena without going crazy with that shit
junior plover
To be fair I'm 2300 in 2s and like 1500 in 3s
And i ain't boosting
But yeah I'm not playing any alts either due to what's going on with gear
neon rover
But if you grind rating in 3s, you'll do it one time.
tough meadow
I'm pretty avarage lol, my highest rating is 1.6
junior plover
Waiting for 9.1 fix
neon rover
No problem about that... the problem is Glad players who make WoW as their jobs, boosting 24/7 and ruining other people experience.
tough meadow
Boosting is yeah kind of at its peak in shadowlands.
They boost even in thorgast.. Where its not needed.... The audacity man
junior plover
My advice for people frustrated with gear is to jump into rbg and ignore arena until you're 213+
I'm not happy about it
But that's the way to go
cold escarp
get a pillow tho because rbg is so fucking boring you'll fall asleep
tough meadow
Yeah..
I just want to learn to lead in rbgs tbh so I can minimize the wait time
I'm waiting so much for groups and to be taken
Jumping around in oribos
It's so lame
Tho idk is there some source where I can read?
About rated bgs
neon rover
if you play Balance or Guardian Night Fae you'll find groups fast. If you play resto druid / feral it'll take longer
tough meadow
It's slow even when I'm balance. Sure I get taken more often.. But it's still slow
neon rover
and i don't know what people complain about resto druids in RBGs, very solid HPS, clone, mass entangle, vortex, best mobility.. i know Disc is broken with that Radiance conduit but Resto Druids are great for bgs
almost every pug want only pala/disc
junior plover
Guardian takes very little effort and gets instant invites
Well
Maybe i get them cuz of ilvl
junior plover
wise valley
Couldn't figure out the barkskin radius lol
junior plover
And on the mine map you get to play dps ez peez
wise valley
Yeah
Brambles with balance aff
I just let rogues reset once and then conveniently sit 10 yards from flag
tough meadow
Yeah playing tank is pretty fun in bgs ngl
In other maps you just sit and guard, not much effort
Easy points if the team is good
And that one legendary that makes you immune to cc is super ncie too
Saw a guardian play it in arena, with balance affinity, you can't cc him while he is just pumping the convoke on you lol
Playing it into double dps is prolly the best feeling ever 😆
@wise valley can you tell me the stats for guardian? I might actually swap to it if stats are same as on balance druid
tough meadow
im swapping now from balance to guardian,shouldnt be a big problem i think right ? im mostly going with vers/haste
wise valley
It doesn't matter
Stats don't matter in pve or pvp for guard lol
Vers is good obvi but ur just a wall of health and ur kit is what makes u good
U benefit from all stats
snow ore
Try to bait the rogues interupt with flap before you ConVoKe em when they try to cap you 
weak hinge
Oof big fleshcrafties with BM trinket and bear + bear talent in the pregame room
obtuse ice
wait braed became filthy tank player
tough meadow
omg wait wait,tahts actually ingenious,how do i learn flap ? i dont find it in my spellbook,thats so nice to bait convoke in arenas too
does it work in arena flap ?
wise valley
@obtuse ice ?
viscid remnant
Is wod and bfa flying baseline
i think only wod but maybe bfa and legion too
obtuse ice
<@219468141682491392> ?
why u talkin about bear
wise valley
Cus im a filthy tank player
Just cus u seen my weiner don't mean u can name drop on discord 😤
tough meadow
cna someone recommend me some good balance druid pvp guide for arena ? like how to setup and burst and etc
polar nymph
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