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btw the biggest counter to war right now , it's shitty comp xD
like BM/Ret , Boomy/Ret , shit like that
I could see that
i love also how Boomy/DK just delete mage rogue
since 9.0.5 , even mage rogue is a fucking pain for war+heal rn
play something else 😄
??
Hmm
and i don't know
they always fail
Convoke boomy / rogue is also insane right now if you don't fail anything
it also depend of the map
in some map , a rogue mage doing everything fine can't lose
Yeah it's probably just my druid privilege showing
Because Rogue Mage is all about me
i'm playing feral sometime and yeah they can't reset
hunt also having good time vs rogue mage
Yeah you just stun one of them off their go and you always win block or evasion
its free from there
but a perfect rogue mage vs war+healer can mostly reset , reset , reset , reset , reset
Yeah I can see that
I thought it was a hard counter like for rmp in 3s
but doesnt seem like it
it's also why boomy /healer is nice vs rogue mage , they can't really reset
you just have to keep something for their shitty ring
rogue would be like 20x worse if they didnt have that stealth shield conduit
also somehow a rogue managed to duel me and restealth despite me using moonfire like 1s before he restealthed somehow
and it wasnt vnaish
stealth shield conduit is dumb and shouldnt be a thing. It allows them to stealth freely with dots on unpunished
yeah thats the problem
I know it'd make them worse and I am not for rogue hate or anything, but it is insanely dumb how free it is and how they arent punished for sloppy restealths
unless you are playing like affli or feral with full dots up its unlikely youll break them out
they should at least have to cloak it off like its so dumb lol
agreed
i mean even if u break it
by the time u broke it
they are long gone
and they can just press stealth right again
cuz its like 2s cd for them
ye
im just curious about what kind of rogue mage that dude is playing vs
its just silly how free the restealths are unless you are constantly inside their asshole
that he can just never let them re lol
its fair enough that sub should be scary if you keep letting them restealth but it removes a big weakness if they just constantly have the ability to restealth provided they drop combat long enough
which isnt exactly hard with all the cc they have + a mage
ya idk i feel like rogues reset on me more than I'd like. literaly just get kidneyed and he steps to the mage or something
how do u stop that
or even just a DB and sprint away
how do u stop that
they will never remove the shield conduit tho
they prolly wont remove any conduits or leggos ever
its gonna keep getting stronger
what are good resources for resto pvp?
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Start at the 1 minute mark and just to about 2:30. It took a full minute and 1/2 to get down.
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uhh theres a couple people who stream rdruid still which is prolly your best bet
I mean, I want to know what necrolord soulbind to take etc.
off the top of my head i know mmarkers but he is a little annoying and does some scuffed builds lol
top 50 rdruid talents
and soulbinds
yeah
what talents do you guys run in rgbs as resto, FG, RR and ...?
i watched the whole flag carry and theres not really a lot to improve on there, that was just how FC works
your biggest problem is that you dont seem to have legacy of the sleeper on, thats critical to FC as guardian druid
you did fine living and got the flag to your base.. your team's support of you was kinda bad though, you move through the map a lot faster if you have the hpal supporting you with freedom and CC
are you FC'ing without legacy of the sleeper though? almost trolling
Pykan from Skullcrusher? Hi - Moobies
To be truthful, I don't remember which legendary I was using. I have Legacy and NoW. I was told that was better for FC for thr Barkskin heals/help.
I'll start using Legacy.
Use both
Sleeper is worthless for 2.5 minutes, thats when you wear Barkskin
combat permitting ofc
Do you make a macro for the gear swap? Or move the armor sets onto your bars?
Hella Soul Ash. I regret going for the T4 BoAT now that I'm using TD. And I want both Sleeper and NoW. 210 leggos, here I come.
Honestly bro
This swapping leggo thing kinda overrated!?
Idk like nearly no point
And you're risking getting caught up in combat and then incarn comes off cd and you don't have sleeper equipped
any ideas on how a priest rogue revealed two people spread out in stealth in arena? no mind sear
i should've checked combat logs or something, but alas -_-
Mass dispel maybe
hmm, maybe maybe
Priest & hpal are better than a rdrood right? this season
Maybe earlier on but resto Druid is pretty strong right now and is definitely competitive
i got some problem to heal my partner
First message guy sends is looking for an excuse for losing

Anyone here play guardian in arena?
Is it worth farming the pvp gear other than the set bonus on trinkets? Would you say the conquest gear is the equivalent to heroic or 220 gear? or does it even matter since it kinda balances us.
As feral maybe the pure vers stat stack is worth it.
hey guys for a feral necro druid in 2s is it worth making a dot lego or just using eye of fearful symmetry
Vers is the best secondary stat for every spec in the game in pvp. How much ilvl is worth dropping for a vers item will depend on the slot. If you're talking about equal ilvl, yes always wear the vers piece.
Vers is the only secondary with defensive value, while the trinket set bonus also make it the best secondary for throughput for majority of specs
i just dont wanna waste my ash 😦
smbdy know a website on which one we can see best talent etc... 2c / 3c ?
thx for it, i begin like rdrood pvp (i was playing only pve ^^ ) thx for tips & website
Brazil abolished daylight saving
That shit sucks
@hexed matrix 1 : equip the right legendary , 2 : call to your team the rogue is on you ( they should send you the hpal / Both priest should be ready to Grab you in the middle ) , 3 : use incarn for CC immune > Run to your Hpal .
Good advice would also to track every single rogue CD with omnibar , so you know when they have nothing to get uptime on you ( after some CC or shit ) and swap to travel/cat form time to time when it's " safe " .
is shadow good comp with heal druid? 2vs2
Yes
How good would necrolord feral be in Wpvp you guys think? I don’t think it’d be too great but maybe I’m wrong
Idk you're unkillable as necro feral pmuch
Go to sleep Brazil man
Maan 18 more levels in classic and iam free
Hm true it is pretty durable so maybe it’d be better than I think
I just woke up like 2h ago tf you mean @junior plover
Should I use deep roots against meele comps? Or its not worth?
The only good thing about brazil is
How u deal with thieves
And other degans
Lynch law
bra7i1
Wasn't that 4 am
Don't know I'm kitty
Rate my cat


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I'm enjoying the absolute meltdown reddit is having over Blizzard not changing Drums in tbc

And about the boost
And about the deluxe edition with a mount
It's really fun to read
Yes but it's not really a change
Drums were shit before last patch
We will have the shit drums until sunwell
So accurate to how tbc was
90% of reddit doesn't even understand that and say they'd prefer no changes at all to that
It's such a circlejerk I love it
Fucking manchildren
They buffed drums massively on last patch
debuff on a player?
To the ones people know from private servers
The op ones
These are still a thing but only when Sunwell comes out
For the entire rest of the game we'll be stuck with drums that have a 8yrd range, have a cast time and don't last as long
Basically not even worth using
thats good
Ye
I guess having to stack LW in Sunwell still sucks but w/e it's literally the last raid
U can change your profession to minmax if you want when the game is over???
Yee
till iam lvl 70 and stacked with gold
Owl time
was bite
the same as in classic
that its not worth to use on higher energy
just minimal

The issue is double standards, right? There are plenty of other things that got fundamentally changed in 2.3 that they aren't separating between the phases @junior plover
Yes, but people do not have an issue with drums being non mandatory pre 2.3
They have an issue with drums being mandatory ever
So that change is absolutely welcome
Obviously TBC Classic will never offer the same experience as the original, but this is a change that helps authenticity and makes the game more fun
I don't really see an issue with it
Other than "it's not enough"

Gonna be honest bro I'm not that old and I've no idea what the issue is, as we say in Brazil, I just played it green to reap it ripe
Or in english something like baiting the hook?

I don't even know what that means
i will bang de drums like i bang te mums

Tldr the issue is
People don't like that the most optimal strat is to have 20 people in raid be leatherworkers
But it only became like that in tbc on patch 2.3 so blizzard is making sure all content before 2.3 is not affected by this sweaty meta
But people don't want to swap to LW on the last tier of the game where Tailoring/Blacksmithing gear is useless anyway because reasons

I think it means like
I'm just throwing out some random shit to fish for a discussion
No idea what I'm talking about I just live for arguing online with anyone about anything

kinda same
but iam always right
so there is no argue
just the other person cant accept the facts yet
> one chance at life
> born in Brazil
Can u guys imagine? Glad no one has to go through that
yo which of the pvp trinkets are better for feral? the on use or the proc? or is it context sensitive?
Hi guys, I'm playing with a mage and we are only around 1600. We have huge problems against beast master hunter. How do you actually counter them?
Should we kill the pets?
Definitely the on use
You should be swapping it out with the HP one depending on the matchup
gotcha, so would the hp one be used vs bursty comps? im playing with an arms warr for reference
In 3s I'm assuming?
yeah
I would play it vs mostly everything given that you're always gonna be kill target in kitty cleave
Actuallt
Kyrian or NF?
NF
Yeah then I'd pretty much only play battlemaster
It's a really strong defensive cooldown
okay, thank you very much!
Np!
dont die
use cds on the hunt
watch out his cast, he can cancel it
u gonna pre skin or wall
and die right after
all of their dmg comes from hunt
or immo aura + fel rush

I wish all of their damage came from the hunt
It's the only burst they have but
They can do like 4k dps in pvp
ye, but its not hard to outheal it
if they use fel rush for mortal damgur
u can actually kite
Yeah it's not too bad
But your healer makes 1 mistake and you could be set back all game
imo
Gotta be careful
Dh in 2s is good af
Better than feral

Maybe I should offrole dh
Might be broken 9.1

I've heard 9.1 is in 2023 to not conflict with tbc
But seriously is this the longest first patch ever?
It's been 5.5 months no?
4.5
I'm dumbo
BFA s1 was 5 months
Legion first patch was like 7!? But there was trial of valor mini raid
Legion didn't feel as long because of Suramar
And trial of valor was pretty cool
And bfa 
So we're on track to be 2 months worse than bfa
like ppl saying it, cuz ptr on avarage last for 83 days
i belive
so anyway
as most ppl are saying, sl is ded, and gonna be ded for a while
till ppl got bored of tbc
and come back
yeah its kinda joke announcing it at blizzcon and then showing 0 gameplay or deep descriptions of any of the new things
And u know what's gonna happen I bet
9.1 is not even gonna be that big a patch

A new zone a new raid
new dungeon, new zone, new raid
pvp talent refresh which i guarantee theyve forgotten about
i quit that patch lol
Me2 but
That's because bfa suckd
That patch was solid af
And the essences system should've been in since the beginning
Instead of azerite gear
It was good
switched to hpala for glimmer and then couldnt bring myself to grind everythiing a second time

so i just quit and went to play classic instead lmfao
which was fun until that got to the same point
That's exactly what I did
Killed Azshara like week2
Was fun
Never logged in again
Went back to leveling my druid in classic
the guild i played with in 8.2 was ok but never like CE back then
quit to play classic
come back
they get CE in nya and are 9/10 rn lol
yup
all my friends quit 8.1-8.2 and i tried playing arena with my guildies and it did not work well lol
All OGs from my classic guild are planning to jump ship on tbc release with our Atiesh 
Guild drama is great
we had a guy who bought gold to pay people to get scarab lord in our classic guild
I didn't play pvp
Grinding pearls, grinding essences
Man essences
he would constantly ping everyone in discord when world bosses were up
Is nice progression
pvp players
How can you 2 fucks
with playing rdruid it wasnt actually that bad lol
BOTE was bis for like half the specs in the game in one scenario or another in pve @junior plover
I'll be real with you i didn't play the patch as I said but the concept felt great

c&s was best in pvp and pve and was piss easy to get especially since bfa rating was like 20x easier
How can you 2 fucks praise the worst patch of the expansion and you didn't even play the patch?
"Oh man 8.2 was so much better"
"Yeah that was when I quit, GREAT PATCH THO"
Game designer here
lmfao


8.1 was the best bfa patch because the raid was pretty good
Nazjatar was easily the worst patch of BFA for pve
It was the worst m+ seasonal affix
And it was the worst grind for raid
infested was worse
At least no corruptions
but its like the difference between eating dog shit or human shit
i played with a destro lock in corruption meta so i had a great time
8.3 best patch ever
And nazjatar was the patch where pvp was infested with tank trinkets too
Look
8.3 had claw too
Just don't be sweaty and 8.2 was great
Legion was indeed goated
Before that, AP and legendary grind was a bit much
But i didn't play last patch
legion only happened because they gave up on wod halfway through
probably
Can u imagine people played pve before m+?
7.3 was a huge patch

like none of the bfa patches came close to that
I liked 7.1 
also legion professions were actually good but people were upset you actually had to play the game to level them up
"waaaah i have to do raid finder emerald nightmare"
Leggo
And ap grind
You had to be basically max AP or you would get oneshot by mythic boss mechanics
Literally no way around it
AP and leggo rng were complete garbo tho
i got lucky and got bis like straight away lmao
from a hc eye of azhara
The only good things about bfa were Reaping and Awakened m+
Bis trinket from a world boss that is only up once every 3 months
For most specs in the game
And u need it to warforge on top

The only good thing about bfa were zandalari trolls
Also
Bro I didn't think it was possible for blizzard to make m+ worse yet again
But shadowlands dungeons are literally all one route linear as shit
Straight after bfa s4 where you could do a bunch of shit different with the portals in a lot of dungeons
Halls of atonement is the only dungeon with any variation
De other side too
It's only cuz of the affix man
You can't really make too many routes
Next season will be different
De other side sucks lol
There is no variation at all
I guess one more pack of birds vs one more pack of stealthies in ardenweald area

Idk DOS is definitely my least favorite dungeon
If you're a complete musterd sure
I guess its gear bec
The DHs thats been clapping me were 44k or 40k hp so 220sh ilvl
talking 8.3 wise
And my boomy is just 201 ilvl with 27% verse
when it was still on live server, drest and clow felt not so great
but when iam looking at it
34k-35k hp
now
I need better gear
i think it was pretty cool
But I cant get passed 1600 due to fucking carry teams
the only problem was, normal pvp'ers could never get a mythic version
I despise and cannot beat teams with someone with my ilvl and their partner being fucking god and have 220+ ilvl
Especially if the carry is a fucking rogue that can 1 shot my partner
Or a SP that just refuses to die
Oh and especially a fucking feral
Ferals are horrifying
I've been fucking with DOS route for the last 20 mins and there is literally no plausible way of pulling DOS in a diff order @junior plover
better off playing resto if your under-geared imo
find a ret or arms to carry you to 1800
Idk how to properly do resto.....
Then again last time I tired I had 180 gear with 15 verse so...
Wait whats the main stat (besides verse) for resto again?
Is haste still best stat or no?
Bec all my shit is haste/verse
yes, haste.
Watch MDI
I think finals like 4 weeks ago
They did the last boss first
I mean
The nightfae zone
It's like the only MDI game I ever watched 
But i remember quite clearly the times were not comparable till last boss cuz of the completely different route
Bro GG wins their first series in 2 years and their fans are suddenly talking shit in chat
They played bm spr

It was tremendous gameplay to watch just jellybeans running circles around the map while pets ran enemy healer oom
Bm gameplay
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tbc hunter pvp
tbc hunter
tbc bm hunter pvp
tbc bm hunter
hunter tbc pvp
tbc pvp
hunter pv...
NEVER CHANGE BM
Don't remember?
I wasn't even born then
Nerf mass dispell
Ok but how do you lose as godcomp
????
u dont
It was really good timing on battlemaster falling off on froffsy
Yeah literally last possible second to win
It falls off 1s later
They always lose

HUGE
Yes
and u hate your life
Tian
i understand watching jungle or rmx games
How much do u think they pay venruki
but how can u watch
shadowplay or any caster mirrors
Casting fuckin awc
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

You only sit here to talk shit about a game you don't play and a tournament you don't watch
Who's the loser?
first of all
Best feral in Poland
u are right at the point iam here to talk shit
cuz i enjoy it
and 2nd thing is
i earn 3x their winning price
in a month
why would i play tournament
i do, corona helps
Good
but thats the other topic
i got glad last ssn, gonna get this one, and got glad in mop on first acc
idc anymore
if there were cute egirls
bfa s4
Glad in mop -> it's on old acct bro sorry
Best feral in Poland kiosk?


Tian can only get girls that queef on their mics
She got banned for it
Tbh if soda sucked air into his dickhole
And farted through it
Do u think they'd ban him?
maybe
Idk
Weird that she got banned for a queef on demand
As if it's any different from a fart really
They killed facile pet :(
Her stream was entirely inappropriate for twitch bro
honestly what are the other priest covenant
Stop talking smack
Idk i only watched the clip
Relzah played night fae yesterday
In one game I think
i seen necro into rmx
Yeah spr necro
It's mindgames
but how u gonna win without mindgames tho
Yeah we in dampen town
Tana played night fae disc
People played it into root beam
Tana egirl?
But idk after that
juiiice
Ticki did too

i cba
Riki ticki narkotyki
also yestarday we were speaking about some comps / spec being super good on ladder and shit in awc
- @lime light

classic yest a rday
fine
like u can just play gnome
into boomkin root beam
and he is donzo

True
Or dwarf into feral bm
Don't we all?
It's a power trip for sure
already
The guardian regulars have more power than thyme
XD
So he powerdicks pvp channel

what
Does celestial guardian increase your own frenzied regen healing?
anyone wanna pump d3 new ssn?
I may be the person with most messages in the server actually
But I just talk shit in all channels sometimes

ah u rly talk shit everywhere?
iam only in pvp and sometimes in feral
if iam super bored
and no one tryna shit talk back
in pvp
Bro I never raid healed in my life and I lecture people on raid healing in resto every week

I think the resto mods hate me
lol
once i entered the resto channel
cuz i was thinking
i oculd finde more egirls
there
They talk shit about pvpers 
and you're surprised...
resto players are 40 yo neckbeards
rude
Thyme best e-thing
no flame ofc
im 21 and clean shaven 😦
idk cant they win vs shadowplay just doing damgur whole game?
all they need to do is watch out for resto drinks
A CROSS KILL
It was cassidy's battlemaster falling off @junior plover
61%
I swear like half the games end cuz someone got burst while bm was falling
How do u lose as godcomp tho
OH THE REZ
REZ
Almost
Jellybeans would never lose this 2v2
Skill capped very nice letting relzah regen mana

Relzah trolling
Could've drank
Was smiting mage for 10 houes
Literally unlosable
monkaS

Unlucky
holy fuck this game so fun
Hydra would never lose that 2v2
if its 60% damp
Yeah the game should always be 60 damp
ye but now u face a rmp
How do u lose
Yeah but then games are shorter than the break between maps @junior plover

Yeah no healing should get fucked
And damage too
So damage sticks
Someone falls to 10%? Make them sit on it
like in game like that 60% should be baseline
For 10 minutes
is it el finale?
What
is it ilast eu game today
Cassidy needs to play movespeed soulbind again
aiamo brazil


Savage momo > fero wound for sure
He feels alive again
lmao they have gelu

there
did anyone play boomie on awc today? i just tuned in
oh

Probably only NA teams would play boomie
jungle lets gooooo
Jungle good rdru godcomp good
Maybe whaazz plays boomie at some point!? He plays it a bunch on ladder lately
Turns out boomie was the meme spec
All along

And I think reddit still complains about boomie
Worst caster in the game
nah that would be demo lock
destro slaps in 2s

Froffsy insta trinkets
in the ultimate form
i wonder if the condult is 33%
for ice form
and this too?
i wonder how does it work
with ice form
this one increases by 10 sec i know for sure
so ice form is 22 sec?
ye
its dispellable so it never really goes 22 sec
Idk that one
they do once its meta
Anyone shed some advice on night fae vs necro for feral 2v2's? Currently nf but everyone's switching to necro. Curious to hear if anyone's made the switch and if it's any good?
not everyone is switching
but if u are focusing on 2vs2
with a healer on your side
play necro
Yup my partner in 2s is usually always my hpal friend
Oh boy overlap trinket and dispersion
Ad hoc wins soon
they gonna lose monkaW
Don't listen to tian lol
He's never ever played necro feral
Not once
Convoke is insane
AGAIN
in the UI?
There is, he's just not playing it
But life swap shows
Swapping covenants from night fae to necro or vice versa won't magically make you climb @heady stump
Both covenants are good and have their moments
Just play the one you like
WE DID IT REDDIT
POG
Yeah but they threw

#beliver
Not looking to magically climb by switching, just curious as to how much of an impact adaptive swarm has on bleeds and sustain pressure. Convoke is the meme, I'll stick with it for now 👍🏼
About a 25% impact
Necro is not that great in 2s
Afaik
NF definitely the play if you play 2s
Altho maybe u beat arms?
🤦♂️ thanks for the helpful advice there.
Idk
Necro felt a bit better vs arms hpal/rsham in 2s
It's fine either way all covenants are good except venthyr

True
It's all good I'll stick with nf, it's too dam satisfying to kill 100-0 in a main no matter the target.
Maim*
How do u lose as godcomp tho
Can someone tell me
Pick fire mage
Kill feral
It's free
Oh no
Isn't Hpal free for bm jungle
This is troll
why
Skillcapped taking one for the team
a lot of cds
It just ooms
In 3 minutes
Idk why not just play ret arms then
Instead u pick mage into feral
To train the healer
Weirdos
I dont think skill capped has a ret player
So what do froffsy maro offrole
Maro plays boomie too
boomkin

I wish we got to see tony play bm jungle

So froffsy is ret
Maybe casters are right
y
What did casters say?
That froffsy dcd before maybe his internet is fucked
And they had to swap him out
Cuz why swap comp on your map
After crosskilling on hook poit
blizo is mad
Pure throw
XD?
Rip
whaaz is washed
he plays random shit all day
?

If they lose this
theyre out
of circuit
i think
maybe not if adhoc loses everything
His teammates both got banned

Ofc his teamwork with brand new partner isnt the same as with raiku lol
Not teamwork just like it's not as tight
The comms and plays
Timings idk
Ww dam insane








