pvp

[viscid remnant]

[solid pumice]

i didnt pay attention to pvp in bfa

what happened

was PVE gear still the best

OH YEAH everyone had mechagon trinket and drest

[viscid remnant]

there basically wasnt any pvp gear besides random drops

[solid pumice]

i remember getting one shot in the shadowlands event while doing world pvp multiple times

[viscid remnant]

and pve trinkets were rampant

[solid pumice]

[edgy shale]

pika had to pay for like 10 mythic drest runs to get his trinket

[viscid remnant]

and essences were annoying as shit

[edgy shale]

[viscid remnant]

and corruptions

[solid pumice]

not a rogue one shotting me in a cheap shot

HE PRESSED HIS TRINKETS WATCH ME TELEPORT TO THE FLOOR

[viscid remnant]

it was very stupid

especially s4

[sullen cloud]

Has anything changed meta wise concerning kyrian vs night fae doe balance druid?

[edgy shale]

as time has gone on more ppl have gravitated towards kyrian I believe, but both are still good and perfectly viable

r1 viable as far as I'm concerned

[sullen cloud]

My boomkin alt approaching 50. I said I was thinking of going kyrian, but my friends will not stop shaming me over it, lol.

[stray sigil]

kyrian is much more consistent

[solid pumice]

is it just mainly because convoke can be interrupted

and that w/ kyrian you get flat dmg % on 1 min cd

[stray sigil]

convoke is good but like seems kinda comp specific imo

i think double caster convoke is good

like boomy/melee ud rather kyrian

similar with feral

i mean most melee boomy is like giga burst

ww boomy

boomy ret

boomy war

maybe with war convoke could be better

but idk

45s warbreaker

lines up better with kyrian

ya necro war tru

ya its like 16-2k players asking whats better

u could play venthyr and climb

[rigid linden]

Toxic

Hehehe

[stray sigil]

not toxic

i am going venthyr

[rigid linden]

I'm gonna try kyrian this reset

[stray sigil]

whenever i can

[rigid linden]

On my horde alr

Alt

[stray sigil]

ima do frenzy band venthyr i think

[rigid linden]

Oof

[stray sigil]

create another movement

[rigid linden]

I'm gonna try BT curio kyrian

[stray sigil]

dont mind me

bt curio is more fun with kyrian

[rigid linden]

Bet

[stray sigil]

giga oneshots

[sullen cloud]

Sure we know if you are that good you can climb with whatever. But I dont think it's a stretch saying it's easier to climb, if you are playing something better. That's why people ask

Yea, I guess the covenant abilities are pretty minor compared to class abilities, and how you use those matter more.

In this case, your choice determines your legendary though correct?

[stray sigil]

kinda ya

boat for convoke

binder for kyrian

[rigid linden]

I meannn

Get 60 astral save badge proc eclipse kyrian badge 2x starsurges

Can be deadly too

My 2 cents

I'm a feral main so maybe I'm missing smthin

[twilit lintel]

Does anyone here have a saying in Resto druid in shadowplay? What's the role? Or if there's a guide somewhere?

[stray sigil]

ur role is

find the pillar

hide behind pillar for 10mins until game starts cuz of ur comp

drink as much as possible

pve heal

[viscid remnant]

Afk at maxrange pillar and heal

[sullen cloud]

So are you guys saying boat is better even if kyrian?

[edgy shale]

DB is generally better for kyrian unless something changed

that im missing

[clear pulsar]

Glyph

Why is stellar flare assssss?

Shit does no dam

No fucking dam

On the other hand fury of elune is large large dam with necro

[viscid remnant]

Boomy necro

[sullen cloud]

Thanks for the insights

[tardy hare]

TWIN MOOOOOOOOOOOONS

[edgy shale]

@clear pulsar i made a shitty tmog like u wanted to show off my tabard

[pallid coral]

damn did fuji make that for you

because its awful

[clear pulsar]

Guilty's not wrong

[unreal rose]

hey am strugling against aff warlocks as a resto druid. do you have any tips?

[edgy shale]

yeah, its disgusting just like a tmog made around tabard of the flame should be

[wise valley]

Fire Tabatha

Tabard ugly af

All those tcg tabards TRASH

[pallid coral]

sounds like something someone poor would say

[wise valley]

@unreal rose are u healing from 40yds

I have frost tabard

And spectral

Don't raise jr voice to me

I was riding a spider before u good pvpers had chest hair

[clever pecan]

what do you guys think boomy fc with celestial guardian or hop in guardian form

guardian spec*

[wise valley]

What r dad jeans

Not wrong with that pastel shit bro they compliment me

No tabard belongs on a mog

Except sporregar and defilers

@vestal citrus we know u don't talk to thotties smh

[edgy shale]

ya i know the tabards are garbage 2 polygon but it makes my pee pee feel big

and thats a win

[wise valley]

Ima tell ur wife

Gg

[edgy shale]

im still banned

i honestly can't believe this

i feel so betrayed

[wise valley]

Wife gone convoke u irl

Glyph was out banging r1 ethots when I just a boy

Holy fuck

Dude met an aussie irl today at fucking kohls

Dude was str8 fucking with me he answered every question with a question

Yeah

Yung lean drip

U either drip brother, or u drown

[unreal rose]

@wise valley what do you mean 40yards? i dont know should i go far af?

[clever pecan]

ty also just realized the lego i have needs me to be in guardian

[wise valley]

@unreal rose well first off explain what problems u encounter vs aff locks

[clever pecan]

sleeper

[wise valley]

And yes 40 yards is ur max range for heals so if they close the distance u can make a move

Or what glyph said

Idk what u having problems with u gotta explain to get answers sir

@clever pecan yeah its guard only as it says in the game menu

Imagine boomy getting cc immunity in incarn LOL

[clever pecan]

ik

i realized that now 😩

[wise valley]

Its a good leggo to have

Guard is super easy in rbgs lol

[clever pecan]

yup

just sit there

[stray sigil]

?? ? ? ? ?

[wise valley]

He meant ur mogs r trash

[forest kite]

what item lvl does challenger rank get you in great vault?

[clear pulsar]

213

[wintry ice]

Hey guys, what leg are you using as bear in rbg plz ?

[surreal heron]

Legacy

[wintry ice]

sweet, thanks a lot

[wise valley]

using my right leg personally

[stray sigil]

my mogs are good

wtf

[sinful canyon]

world of warriors

[tiny oar]

Bro all u idiots out here hating on flame tabard wtf its fire

[tiny oar]

xavius shoulders work 2 i think

[harsh jasper]

is swapping leggos a strat in RBGs?

Like swapping sleeper for will while INC is on CD?

[tiny oar]

ya

[stray sigil]

those mogs are giga awful

[pale plume]

Xavius shoulders look like ass with every mog

[supple haven]

With the changes to honor gained pre-60, can you still cap while leveling in BGs?

[karmic kelp]

Only looks good on dh

[stray sigil]

? ? ? ? ? ?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/us/emerald-dream/fujiuwu

my mog is og

u guys are awful

[edgy shale]

i think all mogs are awesome cuz y'all tried ur best and thats wat counts

[stray sigil]

female tauren is for betas

i am a MAN

i dont play no female characters

[edgy shale]

this guy is insecure in his masculinity...

[sage tree]

hey lads and lasses, considering you were talking about mogs, I was wondering if you have any addon recommendations for transmog*(just returned to the game; havent played since MOP)* that sort by colour or something close to that

i am looking for a gold and purple transmog for my druid, going for a royal vibe kinda like the emperor's children for any w40k fans out there

[stray sigil]

noobs

[sage tree]

alright calm, was looking for a more streamlined approach but I guess its gotta be done the manual way, thanks a lot anw @vestal citrus. I see mogit's code is available so I may give it a try in the weekend to see if I can implement a primary colour extractor for each item to therefore enable sorting based on colour...

[clear pulsar]

wowmogcompanion

.com

Not an addon

[sage tree]

THANKS dude you are a god, no messing with subversion 😆 ; saved me a shitton of time

[foggy ravine]

kyrian resto lowkey slaps

[green valve]

Mogs are srs business

[blissful belfry]

Oh damn, thats why im so bad!

Thanks for the enlightenment

[clear pulsar]

Key being damn near underground

[foggy ravine]

getting anywhere from 3-15% of my healing with kindred

necro def better but kyrian isn't as bad venthyr

😄

[lime light]

Nice mindset

[lean valve]

Woulda a starfall RBG build be viable in rot comps in high MMR?

Or is it simply not worth

What would be the play for legendaries if you did said build, Circle?

Pulsar? Boat still?

Timeworn seems like it might be okay, but I doubt you could keep i tup

[arctic rivet]

Ok so got my toon to SL lvl 53 😄

For Balance tho any tips on how to properly use its rotations? Sometimes I feel I might be doing something wrong when I play balance bec I don’t insta burst someone to death immediately even with the convoke at times....

I normally set up my 2 dots, do the aoe starfall and then convoke

[arctic wind]

Just play warrior and get 2k ez. Thats what everyone else is doing

[sacred solstice]

anyone messed around with a venthyr gdruid build with sleepers + endless thirst + unchecked aggression

not seriously but just for memes

[pliant vector]

@sacred solstice check out Rudar in youtube

He just did that in rgb, massive rot dmg

[sacred solstice]

true ive been looking for vids of it

[arctic wind]

Fucking paladins and their 100-0 every 30 seconds

wtf are blizzard doing atm man fkn hell

[sinful canyon]

hows feral aff

[arctic rivet]

My bro mains warrior and its his only toon so far so making an warrior alt would be useless for me atm since I can’t do double warrior with him

So any class that isn’t his main

And I went for druid (after I built my DK main and Hpal secondary)

[cinder saddle]

He did that with boomy though

[lilac galleon]

@sacred solstice Bulldosaur is running as a venthyr guardian druid, you can check him out on youtube

[honest mesa]

I played venthyr for the first 2-3 months

It's shit

[bitter harness]

[honest mesa]

For any content

Maybe mediocre for balance pve, idk

[bitter harness]

I played it on beta because it was the default for the torghast templates

didn't like it at all

[junior plover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/m5y93d/when_you_mind_control_the_ret_low_and_his_team/

Ofc its a warrior

[edgy shale]

fist comment is funny

first

[bitter harness]

zug zug

[sacred solstice]

thanks man that is actually too funny, might have to switch covenants

[wise valley]

Is it good

[viscid remnant]

[cinder saddle]

is boat just better than dreambender in all situations for RBG?

i feel like for my boomkin os i just do no damage

with dreambender

[edgy shale]

boat is prob better for RBGs with convoke, but u shouldn't feel like ur doing no damage. I literally ran pulsar cuz its all I had and I always felt like I was pumping fat starsurges

[brittle rock]

I'm a bit torn on what stats to go for rn. On all the ladders people who run nf seem to go for mastery but some go for haste instead, i assume haste is better if you're kyrian and mastery for nf. Or should i just sim or just go whatever?

For balance druid

Im currently nf

[edgy shale]

haste tends to be better than mastery for getting into eclipses / getting clones off. I'd check pins for al ot of good info

[noble quail]

Gonna heal rbgs what’s better for rdruid

For leggo

The rejuv or wild growth one

[white spruce]

https://murlok.io/druid/restoration/rbg

verdant infusion is fairly popular (swiftmend one) -- i've used it in rbg and bigger single target heals is important in bgs i think

[jolly leaf]

out of the two wildgrowth accoerding the to link

verdant infusion is just too pog in pvp tho

[white spruce]

also, it'll be hard to get groups as rdruid in higher ratings

i have a much easier time getting in as guardian (i'm necrolord so don't want to do balance, which would be much easier to get a group)

if you are night fae i recommend just trying to get in as moonkin, get a BOAT, and just press 1 button every couple minutes

[jolly leaf]

pretty sure verdant + germ is kind of aids

extending ward or rejuve

then adding another giga buffed rejuve via hotw

then shammy presses dispell 3 times and your target dies

[white spruce]

[clear pulsar]

Rdru needs some purge protection like, if you purge rejuv you take damage

[noble quail]

Thanks for the input and I’m just leading like 1800 guild rbgs not really trying to push

I figured the triple regrow would be juicy

[jolly leaf]

make it so if cenarion ward is dispelled they're silenced for 4 seconds

bam

resto and priests btfo

[white spruce]

if only if lifebloom got dispelled it actually did something useful

back in tbc thats how it fit

also cenarion ward cant be dispelled

[clear pulsar]

CW isn't dispelable at all tho @jolly leaf

Why are you trying to nerf us

[jolly leaf]

O shit

[clear pulsar]

Dont even know what we're whining about anymore

Just wanna whine

[jolly leaf]

< 3

Make the germinate instantly heal the target for the original amount if it is dispelled

as well as x 2 rejuve

[clear pulsar]

Nah not extra healing

[white spruce]

Does the triple regrowth apply the full heal or just the hot? Also, is it smart enough to apply to one of the wild regrowth targets?

[clear pulsar]

Turn purging into taking damage

Like prickling leaves or something

[jolly leaf]

oo

[clear pulsar]

It should pick whoever is lowest hp and in range. Applies the direct heal and the hot.

[white spruce]

That actually sounds pretty juicy

[jolly leaf]

'benevolent thorns': When your HoTs is dispelled the dispeller takes 5000 over 5 seconds, stacking indefinitely. Lasts 10 seconds. 1.5 Minute cooldown

[clear pulsar]

If you purge my lifebloom you take the remaining lifebloom heal in damage

[white spruce]

Deathbloom

If lifebloom is dispelled it deals damage. If it naturally blooms it deals damage to your friendly target

[jolly leaf]

thats pog

[foggy ravine]

just make it so if they dispel rejuv they die

🖕 purges

[blissful belfry]

Ya

100% agree

And if they dispell innervate. They lose their mana pool

[white spruce]

“Growing like weeds” — your dispelled hots have a 25% chance to double instead of be purged

[blissful belfry]

i've always felt like resto druids pvp talent set was lacklusting. Especially against double casters where you have basically nothing really nice

mark of the wild so shit. Only slightly usefull against ele/fire/boomy. and 2/3 of em can just purge it off

[foggy ravine]

ya pvp talents pretty lackluster

[blissful belfry]

Meanwhile discs gets instant radiance for 250%. How about we get instant tranq channel for 250%?

[foggy ravine]

if it isn't dispelled its nice 15% damage reduction is yuge but its just nice dispel protection too

[blissful belfry]

hihihi

[foggy ravine]

tranq is pretty underwhelming IMO, I only use for shadowy duel / smoke bomb really

[blissful belfry]

yeah

or when u are forced behind a pillar with nothing else to do and people melting

[green valve]

I dk feel like rdruid just needs a better cd

[foggy ravine]

ya

main issues are cds and dispel protection

output is definitely fine

[green valve]

Hard swap alot vs rdruids and they just cant do anything about it

[foggy ravine]

idk I feel pretty tanky as rdruid tbh

[blissful belfry]

But i saw yall talk about purges. When i heal against turbo with a priest healer. I can hear ''PURGE'' being screamed by my partner's gladiator Losa through his headset

purge purge purge purge purge

[green valve]

Like cool you barkskinned and overgrowthed this target we just hard swapped cleaved to 40% in a stun

Its still dieing

[blissful belfry]

yeah what i struggle the most is hardswap. not to me, just anyone

gotta re-use 3 globals of hots to start healin em

[green valve]

Yea if barkskin was more of a "hard" defensive itd prob help

Tree form should prob also be baseline

Like you hard swap on a pally cool he just sacs or bops

Priest pain sups or raptures

Druid kinda gets dicked

[clear pulsar]

Needs to be a pvp talent that makes NS more available, either cd reduction or 2 charges, and something for purge 'protection' but I'd rather it be in the form of purgers taking damage

[foggy ravine]

wow if I had two NS that'd be insane

lol

[stray sigil]

ye lets not give rdru more cancer to play with

[foggy ravine]

shadowplay with rdruid healer is actually cancer

played against it like 4 times last night and got to 1.8mil heaing one game

[stray sigil]

every rdru comp always been cancer

rmd

godcomp

shadow play

rld

like noty dont give them hard buffs

[green valve]

Or give them their greater heal back so they can ns bomb it for 30k lol

[foggy ravine]

rdruid healing output is not their weak spot imo

[green valve]

Nah its the hard swap

[lime light]

Rdru already most broken spec to log

Mark my words

They gonna reverd the buffs

And nerf them by a lot

And they still gonna be god tier

[weak hinge]

but rdru is shit tho 😮

[viscid remnant]

fried

[valid robin]

Not trying to be funny- why is it so broken

[wind rock]

whats the easiest way to farm honor? bgs or skirmishes?

[valid robin]

I’ve been healing 2s and finally got 1600 so gear is decent now but still feels like if I don’t anticipate things well I can fall behind super fast

[eager moat]

Being somewhat new to this class I would like to know how balance is doing in the battle grounds and how is there survivability

Also how is resto in bgs too

[safe heart]

down to 2% haste lol

gunna take me 5 years to channel cyclone

[lime light]

Dont cast then?

Essa

[viscid remnant]

tru

[unique turret]

Recently I’ve seen a rdruid guide with draught as a recommended leggo, is it better than VI? Cant see why it would be...

[foggy ravine]

you hardly ever have rejuv on one target so draught is bad

[unique turret]

Even in 2s, right?

[foggy ravine]

ya think about it a lot of the times you are gonna be getting rejuvs on both you and your partner so you aren't going to get value

[chrome panther]

draught in 2s is ok if you play hyper agressive with feral aff.

[unique turret]

Oki, thanks, I will stick with VI then

[latent walrus]

Is there a macro for bear + frenzy regeneration?

Or both on gcd

[foggy ravine]

I just have frenzied regen on a hotkey in other forms and it will swap you

[latent walrus]

yeah figured ty.

[ebon vortex]

rdruid feels so good rn

with 200 ilvl I don't feel like I fall behind healing at all

and necro

[wise valley]

Draught only good into resto dps mirror match where both healers are tryna double kill and neglect healing

[clear pulsar]

Pressing FR autoswaps you?

[foggy ravine]

ye

I also have dash like that

[static spruce]

Is there a particular reason why a fair number of top pvp boomies craft their BOAT for their feet instead of legs? Is it just min-maxing versatility?

[clear pulsar]

Time to go back now

[lime light]

Iam not sure

But dont u need

Rage to use freanzy

After shitting to bear u have 10 Rage, but "gamę" dont know it

Could be wrong tho

[foggy ravine]

I only play the game pissed off so I always got the rage for it

[reef cloud]

so whats the goto for resto pvp legendaries?

[agile berry]

I’m pretty sure it’s still verdant infusion for arena, mother tree for BGs

[scarlet pelican]

What's the class that's most consistent on all expansions ? Like, that class that no matter what expansion or patch it will be either great or top class all the time, is there any you guys know about ?

[pallid vessel]

mage

i cant remember the last time mage was not S tier in all 3 of PvP, Raid, and M+ with AT LEAST one spec

no class in the game fits ur question better

[scarlet pelican]

Everyone saying the same in other discords

Mage mage mage xD

[lime light]

Same with rogue

Rogue and mage are always the best classes in the game

In every category

[pallid vessel]

rogue doesnt fit as well as mage though

[lime light]

And would also add a warlock to it

[pallid vessel]

rogue kit is def a bit overloaded, but its often bad in PvE

maybe not often, but it has its ups and downs

mage is somehow always the best class in the game

[clear pulsar]

Warlock isn't S tier every patch

[blissful belfry]

Warlock is PvE S tier all the time. but not pvp

i think i recall a graph showing the ''above average'' class in % across xpacs. And locks were first with a 97% or something time spent above average

(in pve of course)

[viscid remnant]

locks are usually pretty good

and desired cuz ranged

for pve

[wise valley]

Warlock sucks st every expac launch

S tier by midway every time

They scale really well

Same with rdru

Mop was prolly the biggest differential looking at start-end of expac

Shit was nuts

[blissful belfry]

If locks sucks right now and will scale hard later. i relaly dun wanna see later

[alpine flint]

anyone noticed how convoke seems to be getting insta-silenced? noticed that happening every time i cast it in rbg's this past weekend

[wise valley]

Did u see bfa destro?

Legion was aff iirc? Can't remember

Aff is dumb af when OP just like spriest

[blissful belfry]

no i mean, i myself said warlocks are always good. I was just commenting on the ''warlock sucks st every expac launch'' cuz we first tier and aff is already top

[wise valley]

Historically it had

Has

I missed first 4 months of sl

Don't count

I want demo to be stronk

Should just make demos a tank spec and give us back our rightful demon form fuck DHs

Could be a sick summoner tank using demons as buffs and big cds

But it would be too big brain for everyone so ir would be watered down and suck

[lime light]

Dumbo

Yes

[arctic wind]

Daily complaint about warriors. Broken af condemn

[lime light]

Surr

[indigo osprey]

There’s no such thing as a flag pickup macro these days now, right?

[bitter harness]

just click?

[ebon vortex]

final verdict 🙂

[clear pulsar]

[lime light]

16.6k isn't even high for this ability

[ebon vortex]

yeah ik but still lmao

ive seen 20k

[teal hinge]

20k surges are juicier

[gentle trout]

If I wanted to gear through rbg's solely as guardian to eventually do feral pvp - how gimped would I be buying vers/mastery items as a guardian that mainly fc / defend's nodes? or does that not really matter as long as I have the right leggo?

[bitter harness]

afaik vers mast is really good for guardian

[safe heart]

just do feral pvp instead

struggle like the rest of us

[tardy hare]

You can defend nodes naked

Stats basicly irrelevant in rbgs anyway

You can be complete ape there

Its fine

[gentle trout]

Are there any tips on defending a node vs a rogue boomkin w/ sap and hibernate? Or are you just super fucked.

[latent walrus]

is there a certain haste we need to incap clone?

[clear pulsar]

Spin the flag and yell for help

Like 7%

If you don't get pushback from being hit @latent walrus

[wise valley]

@gentle trout brambles and balance aff

Super hard to 2v1 that combo tho

Could be done ig if u can catch them slipping

Best bet is to just call for help and hope team isn't tunnel vision apes

@tardy hare what is the benefit to guardian from stacking haste?

[wise valley]

Yeah Idk I recall reading haste is bis for guard

Lemme check

I'll ask the dads of this discorx

Okay stats don't matter for guard

Ilvl and agi over anything

Yeah mast stacking seems the move for meaty bois

I escaped the pve channel unscathed

[tulip falcon]

no reason for haste as guardian in pvp

at all

the people who say haste are just looking at people in boomie gear and assuming its guardian bis but truth is it really doesn't matter

but if you DID want stats it'd be versa/mast

[kindred dragon]

Going to craft draught of deep focus, I won’t be able to upgrade it until a few weeks from now, with that in mind better to make it a chest or a neck? For context my neck and chest are both currently 213 sinful.

[quartz orchid]

haste or mastery for boomy pvp

[dry star]

is convoke a nature spell (for kicks)?

[quartz orchid]

I assume so, i get nature locked every time

[clear pulsar]

Vers and haste @quartz orchid

Not or

[quartz orchid]

meant mastery lol sorry

corrected it

[ruby marsh]

Anyone try making necrolord feral work? Tempted to give it a try after being a convoke bot for a while

[gritty umbra]

which legendary should I make for guardian in rbgs?

[ruby marsh]

Interesting. Currently have curio, but im wondering if I should go draught or circle

[wise valley]

Dude my stats fucked anyway

I'm still going for ilvl over all every spec lol

@vestal citrus LOL THAT CLIP

BOI GOING OFF

[edgy shale]

thats a very normal interaction with a viewer who shit talks him

[stray sigil]

quap isnt that bad

jah i cant stand though lol

quap just a bfa assa rog that developped an ego

jah been like that since bc

LOL

[edgy shale]

the miestro is gonna get r1 on all 9 of his pallies and u guys are just gonna be furious

[dusk merlin]

I just recently started playing boomie coming from lock and cant really tell when I need to kite and how to position etc. Anyone got a good video explaining these things for boomy?

[radiant forge]

watch supatease

youtube

[edgy shale]

[dusk merlin]

thanks guys

[stray sigil]

[radiant forge]

hes probably higher ranked than u

u a 3k rated moonkin?

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

oof

[clear pulsar]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/sanguino/Shámss
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/Maroxd
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormscale/Lazerftw
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/Prevà
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/sargeras/Ttvrudarz
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/Dipii

Do feel free to use mastery gear lol no one is holding you hostage

Hopefully swapping over 200 haste to mastery will put you at whaazz's cr or something

Look man whaazz isn't stacking haste ima need you to update your guide to accommodate for this ok? @vestal citrus

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/dentarg/Stevou
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/Shouri
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/illidan/Starfail

[gentle trout]

It looks like the top rated rbg druids run legacy of the sleeper (for fc obviously). Natural Order's Will - looks really strong for holding nodes and not getting fucked by rogues when I'm undergeared. Any input on which is the better first purchase if I can't get both?

[clear pulsar]

You can probably make 2 week one tbh if you manage to do all the bolvar quests

Maybe

[gentle trout]

I can run both, but they'd only be 190. I guess at super low cr, it doesn't really matter.

[clear pulsar]

Could say the same about swapping to now when berserk on cd

Trying too hard for rbgs tbh

[gentle trout]

Thanks guys!

[gentle trout]

You say that - but I geared to 220 in 2 weeks on my hpal and rsham. Bypassed needing to do m+ entirely.

[arctic rivet]

Wait so whats better for druids?

Verse/Mastery or Verse/Haste? I’m talking for Boomkin pvp

As NF convoke boomy

[mental pecan]

What's the best legendary as a resto druid ? I can't seem to find it in the pins. Is it still verdant infusion ?

[mental pecan]

Thank you very much

[remote crag]

Anyone know what’s best leggings for guardian druid FC?

[gusty phoenix]

I feel like every time I join a group and we fight a team with similar mmr, if we win 2 games in a row it puts us against a team that's much higher and crushes us

does it make any sense to find a new group if we win a game against a team with like 150 more mmr?

[sacred path]

i am so bad ;/

Was hoping to pick up something by 1k games >_<

[stray sigil]

u might be playing on autopilot

if u feel like ur not getting better in any aspects

[pallid vessel]

pvp is just so fuckin hard man

[spring turtle]

im running 2s with my buddy who is new to wow this xpac

its tough when so many people outgear you in the 1300-1400 range

[sacred path]

I’m 210 with 27 vers, good conduits and legged.. can’t blame that here lol

[spring turtle]

i mean i cant personally either

i got rbg rating

he dont tho

[wooden sparrow]

210 isn't super high this late in season

[spring turtle]

but they even outgear ME

like wtf

[sacred path]

Yeah I have 196 rbg lol I don’t think I’m getting far with that

Tried a 3s and alt f4 out of embarrassment lol 😞

[edgy shale]

miestro is complaining bitterly about resto druid

[gentle trout]

When you’re trying to live as bear against very heavy dps - do you generally pop bark skin and survival instincts and the dmg reduction roar or spread them out? Or is it entirely situational depending on how much dps you think you’ll take?

[edgy shale]

u don't really have a need to pop both at the same time unless ur really get butt fucked and ur healer is fully CC'd

[gentle trout]

When I’m FC when is the general optimal time to pop incarn (with leggo)? I’m assuming to get away from the base ASAP to safer waters without being sapped? Or do I just run and pop it when I think I’ll need it?

[manic radish]

are 220 haste vers pieces better than say 226 vers mastery pieces for boomy pvp?

[cinder saddle]

I use a macro to pop incarn and then swap to NoW from stealth

This way you get the immunity just before grabbing flag - but i only use it if enemy for sure has a rogue on def

Then when running you can bark and get frenzy for free. Pretty hard to kill

[gentle trout]

That is some juicy tips thank you

[cinder saddle]

You gotta read the play though. But yes, generally it’s pop macro that incarns and swaps ewuipset as you pick up flag

But pointless to do if you’ve seen the rogue out of base

[cinder saddle]

I’m also by no means high mmr either, so if another bear has tips please just tell me I’m an ape

[frank wing]

curious. is it better to flag carry as boomkin with bear affinity and bear leggo's or as bear?

[edgy shale]

as bear

[tall knoll]

You cant even equip sleeper with boomkin right?

[edgy shale]

u can, but boomy doesn't have zerk

[surreal heron]

can wear it, but it only works on bear berserk/incarn

[lime light]

cc immunity should be baseline for ferals

we deserve the best

[safe heart]

omw boys

[lime light]

Sinful gladiator Enji

[safe heart]

one day my man

im tryin

[old quarry]

Do you guys craft boat on legs or feet? I found both on high rated druids

[high nebula]

which pvp set do I go for if I need to play as guardian in bgs? same as cat or the haste one?

[forest kite]

how much am i gimping myself in pvp if i go nightfae over kyrian?

i'm currently fates leveling @ 56 and selected kyrian

but since thinking to move feral main for pve also i'm wondering if i should go night fae for pve also

the gap between kyrian/nightfae for PVE seems larger than PVP, or am i wrong?

[viscid remnant]

yeah

both nf and kyrian are good for pvp but if you do any serious pve not nightfae is pretty bad

so ya go nightfae

[vital parcel]

anyone know if the pvp tourney is this weekend?

[old quarry]

Thank you! 🙂

[forest kite]

thanks @viscid remnant

[vital parcel]

Whats NoW btw?

[tardy hare]

Legendary

[vital parcel]

Right

But you cant swap in rbg tho?

[tardy hare]

You can

[vital parcel]

O_o

My life has been a lie

[tardy hare]

Too lazy to build a 2nd legendary anyway

🙃

2nd for guardian*

[vital parcel]

NoW is nice for hybrid plays tho

And pve bears

[tardy hare]

Whats the hybrid play

Dont need a tank legendary for feral or boomy

Dmg go brrrrr

[vital parcel]

Idk i kinda lika it when i do 2s with another dps

But im low mmr

[tardy hare]

Idk dont need it at all

More dmg

[vital parcel]

Resto affinity is like ur a healer

[tardy hare]

Idk i only play guardian aff

Fuck resto aff

[vital parcel]

But then u go oom

[tardy hare]

Nah

[vital parcel]

I meant resto affinity

[tardy hare]

Ah

Idk only use regrowth swiftmend anyway

Then shift back more damage

[vital parcel]

But ive won some games with it

[tardy hare]

Ofcourse

Its not bad

Pretty good actually

But i prefer guardian aff

[vital parcel]

Yeah i mean without it u can rarely run resto i think

[haughty compass]

Roar / regen too good

[compact turtle]

Hi, does necro work for feralP

[viscid remnant]

boomy aff op machtig :)

[hollow wasp]

Hey guys im thinking to make a rdruid as alt. Playing holypriest now but it gets boring to be trained by melees and not being able to do anything.. i used to play Rdruid in legion and liked being able to kite melees for ever. Is it still like that or does Rdruid have issues surviving too?

[viscid remnant]

if you are good at kiting it would be hard for the enemy to kill you yes

however even small mistakes could lead to you getting caught and destroyed

[hollow wasp]

Yea like being too slow on the pre-bear and die in a stun?

[viscid remnant]

ye stuff like that

[hollow wasp]

Used to be good at it and managed to get decent rating as druid. What settups are any good right now in 2s, as druid. Im mainly facing only druid-warrior right now if its a druid

[viscid remnant]

yeah arms warrior probably best

affli lock and frost mage are pretty good too

[hollow wasp]

Yea saw a skillcapped vid about that resto-mage will be become really good at some point, no experience with that combo but i play lock-priest right now. Think i like the caster settups the most. Good to hear its viable

[daring herald]

Keeping myself alive as a rdruid isn’t the issue. Keeping my friends alive is where I struggle 😩

[dry star]

I'm new to rdruid and been fooling around with a hunter, it's been pretty good and really fun

[hollow wasp]

Yea is that hard? I imagine you have allot potential with clone and roots against melee

As Hpriest im having the issue that i can only heal or dps. missing out on the kites rdruid has

[dry star]

I don't know if it's resto druid only or our druid + hunter combo but warrior comps feel like free wins

[wise valley]

haste vers shoulders from vault

for 6260 honor

feelsbadman

[junior plover]

Gj man you'll get there

[viscid remnant]

as hpriest u cant rly kite but u can spam mc

in 2s atleast

[lime light]

Yes

And mc bug everyone

Very good homie

[quiet vine]

Yo!! have already 2100 conq points, its better take weapon (2h feral) or 2 parts of set?¿

[lime light]

Weapon yes

[forest kite]

if you already have 1800+, take the weapon for easy 220 upgrade

if you struggle to hit 16/1800, spend it on gear and get your weapon from m+

[quiet vine]

I want take all for conq but well, idk whats better to go first

so weapon better for first?

[lime light]

Yes

[quiet vine]

nice, thx!

[forest kite]

Sup nerds. Finally hit 1800 CR. If I drop below it do I still get to get 220 upgrades? Like say I go to 1400 Do I still get 220 ?

[wise valley]

Sup nerds

[sacred path]

@forest kite you’ll get a 220 in vault for weekly high but will not be able to upgrade items to rival anymore

[forest kite]

So say I leave my 3s at 1800. Never touch it again. And I go farm conquest from 2s. Can I still upgrade vendor items to 220.

With no time frame? So I can literally just farm in twos for 4 weeks and upgrade all I need to 220?

Sorry if that doesn’t make sense

[sacred path]

Yeah I guess till season end

[forest kite]

Sick ty

[proper spade]

is the On-Use Health pvp trinket worth at all for Guardian in pvp? or should I just use the primary stat proc trinket?

[lime light]

Its good for arena as DPS or healer

For tank could be decent at some point

[proper spade]

I was thinking about using it with Incarnation to get beefier Fleshcrafts

[lime light]

Necro guardian

Kekw

[foggy ravine]

sounds beefy

[proper spade]

It's fun, Topping Damage and Healing

in BGs

triple endurance conduit with serrated spaulders on 3rd soulbind

[wise valley]

ur team is absolute ass if u ur topping dmg

[proper spade]

I mean I'm hitting about 1 million damage most bgs

[wise valley]

rbg or rando bgs

rando bg ez to fluff dmg

[proper spade]

I said BGs not RBGs, it's just a fun alt to play ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wise valley]

i like when i win rbgs

doing no dmg or no healing cus we win so fast and no one comes to my base

feelsaloneman

@proper spade just do rbgs dude

Its ez af when ur guard

[proper spade]

okay but that doesn't answer my question, I'm just playing this toon to meme and have fun

just wanted to know about Health Trinket vs Agi proc trinket

[wise valley]

Hardly matters

More health with cd is just a few gcds away from dying anyway

[blissful belfry]

Seen a venthyr boomy rbg video about insane dmg with dots / starfall / shooting stars. Clearly, spread cleave is the worst kind of damage you can put to generate kills. But from the raw superior damage it was pumping, how viable / unviable would it be in reality? I reckon its mostly good with a rot comp revolving around it

[wise valley]

Yea

If ur a real to comp team it can work

I think a good spr aff boomy comp would pump

With a good ass mage to make fights longer

How can u tell if dmg was far superior since its cleave

[blissful belfry]

well, in the video you can see the meter

and yeah, i meant superior, as to, compared with his teamates, not comapred to a regular boomy. cant really compare without having 2 in the same game

[nova verge]

For RBGs which 2 endurance conduits do you guys like to run?

As Boomy

Vigor/Resolve? Or Well Honed in place of one of them

[foggy ravine]

you can do nearly that venthyr druid video damage as NF or kyrian with as many PIs and dark archs he got

[blissful belfry]

yeah, i figured venthyr wasnt adding much sauce

[wise valley]

I mean spread out dmg can be pumping but it can easily outhealed

I feel like you'd be better off spreading and focusing 1 target anyway to delete them

1 less person on their team doing dmg or healing more prio idk tho

[lime light]

Is Fuji banned

@stray sigil nvm

Stop simping

On tweeter

[wise valley]

Stop using twittet

Are u 15?

[viscid remnant]

unfortunate bug

ppl rly play without mc because of the bug?

seems like big int

[lime light]

No u still mc sometimes, but not as often

[junior plover]

I feel like it doesnt happen as often anymore

[lime light]

Cuz there is a 50% chance to make enemy lag

[junior plover]

but idk

[lime light]

@wise valley shadap kid

Ye, cuz ppl dont mc kekw @junior plover

[stone breach]

Run Well-Honed in all content -- barkskin CD vs more hp/armor in bear is personal preference

[arctic moth]

Shall i as feral be Running night fae or kyrian?

[clear pulsar]

Well honed + innate resolve

Default

Tbh

[junior plover]

Just run barkskin cd as a TFB swap

[arctic moth]

What u guys Think?

[junior plover]

Personal preference

[gentle trout]

As a guardian druid - how do you deal w/ a cyclone into hibernate from an encroaching boomie if I'm holding a node - other than staying in stealth? or trinketing the hibernate?

[clear pulsar]

Shift out of bear form

Before hibernate finishes casting

[arctic moth]

Feral vs boomie in duel and arena. What u guys dating

Saying😂

[junior plover]

Yeah you can time the shift

should be easier than timing the hibernate for the boomie

what's really scary is bash into triple hibernate into triple clone

[gentle trout]

If a rogue and a boomie come am I just extremely fucked?

[junior plover]

yeah if you get stuned into hibernate

youre fukd

[clear pulsar]

You can shift out when you're ccd

Wot

Are you

Just

Shift out during the cc

[junior plover]

what

[pallid coral]

???

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

Yall crazy

[pallid coral]

are you ok kiosk

[junior plover]

I'm clearly not

[pallid coral]

you can cancel buffs while cced

[junior plover]

Yeah

makes sense

100%

[gentle trout]

I can shift while cycloned? (Sorry i started playing druid literally yesterday)

[pallid coral]

yes

[junior plover]

legit never crossed my mind but in my defense ive only been hibernated like twice

[gentle trout]

As guardian in RBG - are there any real benefits to balance affinity? Seems like - typhoon would be nice, but I can't imagine owl form is going to do much?

[lime light]

Lmao

Ape

[junior plover]

If I continue talking about the game some day I'll be educated into a glad

ez

[lime light]

monkaS

Just like avarage Guardian druid

If u cast hibernate on them

99% they gonna tank it

[latent walrus]

if playing resto and NF (I know), what soulbind would you go?

[dark scroll]

Can you click the shift form button, or do you need a special macro

[pallid coral]

no clue

since i've only used a macro for the last decade

xd

[magic phoenix]

is there a macro for bear/cat form switch?

[junior plover]

Pretty sure /cast catform or w/e is just equal to /cancelaura in effect now

but just try it

[lime light]

./cancelform

[junior plover]

same shit

[wise valley]

@lime light stop saying "shadap"

Sound like a neckbeslard

[slender ivy]

Would Feral/Rogue work in 3s? Or would it feel horrible?

My buddy wants to play Rogue or Lock. So we are trying to find what would be best paired with Feral

[errant blaze]

Imo it can work, but feral lock is probably better

To many dr’s on feral rogue i think

[clear pulsar]

I don't think there's too many DRs, feral can just save stuns to setup cc from healer

While rogue stuns kill target

[stray sigil]

@lime light nop

[errant blaze]

Yea ok good point

[clear pulsar]

Like you maim offtarget + bash healer for a rep from your hpal

While rogue kidneys kill target and spams shadowstrike

It doesn't sound like a great comp but it's definitely something you can work with

[stray sigil]

[slender ivy]

Sounds good. I figured it could work, but also considered the bleeds and dots from feral/lock may be more deadly.

[clear pulsar]

But

Feral lock def better

[slender ivy]

The only other comp we considered was Feral/Havoc.

Nobody wants to play survival 😭 Lol

[junior plover]

Just play rogue/feral in tbc in 3 months

[slender ivy]

Lol, I won’t be touching that.

[clear pulsar]

Shouldn't be a very big deal, as the healer, having pod yourself probably won't do anything, so maybe Niya

The slow after cc is kinda nice from dreamweaver

But niya mastery proc is pretty strong too

[blissful belfry]

I play dreamweaver on resto cuz i main boomy and i dont wanna swap conduits all the time. Pod can still rez you against reets and in 2s if your dps has good cc

[gloomy nova]

How can u be allowed to spam purge like a moron during a whole game without any cost basically

Am I the only one whos getting absolutley pissed off at this

[vapid nexus]

by resto shamans?

[quartz badger]

Paladin boomkin dude god running through low cr sliding over cars while we shoot

https://youtu.be/c_D_xHEVfms

[errant blaze]

Warlocks tend to agree with you 😦 rip darksoul

[viscid remnant]

whos spampurging u

[wise valley]

@quartz badger better be ret and boomy

[pallid vessel]

@stray sigil i see u experiencing that eye of the storm with me pal

thanks 4 being there

[stray sigil]

who were u

[pallid vessel]

Meemees the warrior

trying to gear this alt its a pain

[stray sigil]

im just playing merc bgs

buit like some of these are giga unwinnable

have like 5 on me while trying to ninja a base

and we lose mid somehow

[pallid vessel]

our team just sat by the back rocks and healers wouldnt push in.. my first storm of destruction bladestorm on their entire team, a fucking disc priest grips me back to the back rocks

i actually couldnt believe it

[stray sigil]

idk why i had glad title on

got spat on by literally

every single person in there

[edgy shale]

[pallid vessel]

i saw ur name was about to ask if u had BT and curio on

decided not to

[clear pulsar]

He didnt

[pallid vessel]

u had bases to ninja

[stray sigil]

na im playing uh skin just so i dont have to rely on healers in bgs

[clear pulsar]

Fuji fake curio savant

[stray sigil]

tru ig

but i do like stomping noobs

1v4s abd sghit

@clear pulsar listen

fuk u

[marsh pollen]

Is there a limit to how many bites convoke does?

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

i suppose technically no

[clear pulsar]

At most 10

[stray sigil]

16 bitres

pog

[clear pulsar]

Everyone's highest being 5 could be put down to luck

I've seen 6 actually

[stray sigil]

ya but technically

[clear pulsar]

But definitely not more than 10

[stray sigil]

u could do 16

[clear pulsar]

Nope

[stray sigil]

na fuck that place

[clear pulsar]

You can get 5 surges 100%

You tripping

6

It's #1 sludge parse

So it's not on pull either

With a pre-cast surge

[snow ore]

Super Noob Question for a beginner Bear FC for rbgs, We dont have any abilities that make us drop the flags I should worry about right?

Travel form drops it dosnt it?

Awesome! Thanks for your time 😄

[safe heart]

i just played a random bg and ran the flag almost across the field twice while getting no peels then got reported afk in the time it took me to alt tab and type 3 sentences in discord lol

this is your daily update on "enji taking skirms too seriously"

now i know what youre thinking

"does enji just type really slow or something? maybe hes a 20 wpm kind of cat"

but this is not the case

i am a solid 60ish wpm if i had to put a number onit

so in conclusion

i demand freedom

[edgy shale]

wait do u acutally type 130 wpm

thats abnormally fast

im at like 100-110

[safe heart]

i dont think i could do that and maintain any type of accuracy lol

have the reason i type slower is because i make fuckin typos

and back space forever

[edgy shale]

actual court stenographers can do like 300 wPM but i know they use a special keyboard

[safe heart]

i guess i could 360 no scope the entire word with highlight backspace

do they?

[clear pulsar]

Enji got carried by the fox now he out here slanging his ego on poor random bgers

I SEE YOU

[safe heart]

okay you hold up now buddy

i earned it for myself right after brooooooo

(but yeah youre right)

[edgy shale]

ya hunting and pecking is pretty cringe lol

[safe heart]

my brother is 24 and still cant formally type on a keyboard

after i played with syfoxe i did a jungle group and pushed from 1422 to 1845 but we lost the last couple games before we called it

[edgy shale]

nice stuff

[safe heart]

tyty

[clear pulsar]

Pog

Gj bro keep at it

[safe heart]

❤️

[marsh pollen]

So there's nothing that stops convoke from proccing like 5 bites in a row?

[edgy shale]

I've gotten 4 bites in a row

nothing is stopping it, no

[marsh pollen]

But you can't get 10 bites

Like does it have to cast certain abilities?

[clear pulsar]

I don't recall ever seeing more than 6, no

[marsh pollen]

I know it casts tigers fury if you dont have that

and it will refresh rake?

[clear pulsar]

Generally it follows:
6 generic spells (in cat form this would be non-cat spells, wrath moonfire rejuv regrowth thrash)
10 form specific spells (in cat would be shred rake bite and tigers fury)

[edgy shale]

it won't refresh rake or MF as far as i know

there should be a chance for it to cast 10 bites assuming ther's rake on the target and u use TF right before convoking

most ive seen si 6 so ya

[clear pulsar]

Some spells are generic spells in any form but count as form-specific on the relevant form

[marsh pollen]

Does it cast rip?

[clear pulsar]

Like Rake counts as a generic spell if you're not in cat

No

[marsh pollen]

I thought it doesnt recast TF if its already applied

[clear pulsar]

Right

It usually won't refresh effects

[marsh pollen]

Like Im wondering if say you apply TF, Rake, Rip is there a better chance you proc bites at the start of convoke?

since it wont try to reapply those spells?

[edgy shale]

rip has nothing to do with it, but for TF and rake yes. U should always TF before convoek anyway just for raw damage purposes

[clear pulsar]

Sure

It nearly always uses Tf if you dont have TF up, same with Rake

So if you have those, statistically you'll have more bites, on average

[marsh pollen]

same with thrash?

[clear pulsar]

I think thrash counts as cat form spell so yeah probably

[marsh pollen]

It doesnt swipe or brutal slash right?

[clear pulsar]

Right

[slender orchid]

What talent do you guys run in the last talent row

for balance

😛

in rbgs

fuck im bad a questions

thanks dad

[chrome swan]

hey guys, i am new to pvp druid, for dps, do i go balance or feral ? and what is the best legendary / conduits for either ?

[edgy shale]

do u prefer playing melee or caster/range?

[chrome swan]

happy to play either, depend what is usually needed more

and whhat is effective for rbg

[clear pulsar]

Boomie for rbg if you hate life

Feral if you're living large

[chrome swan]

alright, and for boomy legendary i assume it should be mentioned in the pinned pvp guides ?

[edgy shale]

yeah

[dark scroll]

Oh is this why we thrash opener?

Wait I'm not in #feral how did I get here

[paper solar]

what trinkets y'all prefer for moonkin arena?

ty

[pallid vessel]

oh shit did i miss a typing speed conversation

i may not be a rank 1, but at least i can link these stats

[edgy shale]

[hazy pebble]

Anyone got tips on how to handle Spriest and aff lock as Ret/resto? If I hold out my dispel for mindgames I can't keep up with the rot pressure and if I clear dots I get hammered with mindgames.

[lime light]

tell the ret to bind WoG and heal u

[edgy shale]

wow its acutaly so nice that echoing shock just instaprocs the +15% dam leggo

and its also a 30 second cd so it perfectly syncs lol

very clearly intended interaction

[cinder saddle]

Anyone know why i can’t clone cap if I’m standing on top flag? I roar, clone and instantly start capping

But for some reason the clone finishes before i get the cap off

[lime light]

cyclone is 6 sec so the cap is

there is a lag on both sides

[cinder saddle]

So could just be down to ping

Doesn’t help I’m uk playing in us

[fathom hound]

how can u do bearm form+incap at the sametime when its on gcd? when i press bear form it waits like 2 secs till i can cast incap roar

[lime light]

its 1.5 sec ye

so what

its still fucl cyclone

but i dubt u can cap like that

maybe with good latency, and no reflex enemy

[jade elbow]

Soulka incap puts u in bear

So you can save the global

By just hitting incapacitating roar instead of bear > incap

Decent number of abilities do stuff like that

[fathom hound]

oh shit

thanks

[lime light]

any tbc gamers

[pine hatch]

will cat be viable tbc

has anyone tried?

[edgy shale]

i played it back in the day and it felt really bad. I was beyond god awful then, but u don't get a kick and ur maim isn't even a stun

[edgy apex]

Is haste the go to stat for balance pvp? Got mastery + versa on my BOAT boots and now I'm wondering if I should've gone for haste

[wind bramble]

anyone here actually know about macros? i've been trying to do this macro for second talent row. so depending on talent selected does one ability or the other, but also would like for wild charge to cancelform when mouseovering a team mate. so i've done this aberration so far:

#showtooltip
/use [talent:2/1]Tiger Dash;[talent:2/2]Renewal; [talent:2/3, @mouseover, help, nodead] cancelform, Wild Charge; [talent:2/3]Wild Charge

[wind bramble]

this is what i came up with and it “seems” to work. but i don’t know if someone that actually knows what he’s doing could make a better more correct one.

#showtooltip
/cancelform [talent:2/3,@mouseover, exists, help]
/use [talent:2/1]Tiger Dash;[talent:2/2]Renewal;[talent:2/3]Wild Charge

[tall knoll]

@edgy apex its fine to go for mastery on your legendary. But yea versa haste mastery are the stats you want. Haste faster cyclones, starfires for getting into eclipse etc. And mastery just means more damage

[edgy apex]

Yeah, I'll probably prioritize haste where I can over mastery, but I guess a couple of pieces won't make much difference

[tall knoll]

On a lot of conquest gear you only have one non-crit option. For soemthing like neck or helm its up to you to decide which one you get. Or take what you get from the vault if its non-crit

[junior plover]

Not really

It has like a tier2 comp in 2s with Rogue Feral

I know I'll be playing that

But it ain't good

[pine hatch]

any 3s comps worth mentioning?

[junior plover]

Not really sadly

You could play jungle or FLP because hunter and lock are super strong

But they have much better partners

[sullen cloud]

Isnt feral mage priest decent?

[junior plover]

It's meh but good luck trying to find mage priest to play with you when RMP is the best comp in the game

I think FLP is probably your best bet in tbc 3s

Or just roll restokin

And be godtier

[sullen cloud]

I didnt realize we were talking tbc. My bad.

I had a restokin in tbc

[junior plover]

Oh yea in SL FMP is nice

Feral is doing good right now just not back then

In pvp anyway

[sullen cloud]

I remember playing against a pretty damn good feral rogue team in tbc.

But yea almost never saw them

[junior plover]

Maybe tier 2 was a bit harsh

it's viable

just not glad viable

maybe some crazy player will get glad with it

[honest mesa]

Why bring a feral when you can bring a warrior
Why bring a lock when you can bring a mage

[sullen cloud]

Style points

Watched a hansol video recently actually, FMP at 3.2k. Was cool how coordinated they were

[honest mesa]

Style points are real

Believe in the necro kittycleave for next awc

[junior plover]

Lock is better than mage in TBC other than RMP

Or are we

in SL now

ah

ye

Yeah almost same thing tho

the only reason ferals are played at AWC is because feral players are too stubborn to switch and theyre extremely good at the game

[honest mesa]

Yeah i agree

[forest kite]

new to balance. i do RBGS, is there ever a time where i should take might bash over mass entagle?

We already know how tbc will be, like classic was ( plagued by fotm try harder) restoskin / lock / war / rogue everywhere in 2s, 5h game, same shit in 3s + rmp xD

[desert delta]

whats a good comp for Boomie in 2s and 3s?

[forest kite]

10h game running behind a pet as warrior with 10% uptime, and 10h as lock trying to mana byrn6a druid 😂

[forest kite]

Good or best?

3s : boomy+ele+rsham/hpal then boomy/sp/rsham
2s: boomy+sp/ret

[desert delta]

how do you play with a ret?

[forest kite]

One shot > stay alive > one shot

[desert delta]

aaah stall like quin69