pvp

[tardy hare]

with a 199 ilvl spri

at 2k cr

atm

👍

but i just play symmetry

[pine hatch]

yeah im all about the necro hype now

[tardy hare]

fuk necro

[pine hatch]

and wondering if double dps necroferal is a thing

[wise valley]

@tardy hare what cov r u

When is your book coming out

[tardy hare]

night fae obviously

im a fairy furyr

[stray sigil]

nf is poopoo

[tardy hare]

who cares

[stray sigil]

soulshape is nice rho

[tardy hare]

im a fairy furry

[stray sigil]

u are a furry thats true

[tardy hare]

and a beautiful cute fairy

[stray sigil]

u prob watch beaststars

[tardy hare]

whats beaststars

[stray sigil]

dont act like u dont know

u furry

[tardy hare]

i'd watch it if it involves animals

[stray sigil]

it does

watch it now u freak

[tardy hare]

pog

[bitter harness]

you playing 2s with Laine? @tardy hare

[tardy hare]

ye

[bitter harness]

I thought he'd be way higher than 199

he's a pogger tho

[tardy hare]

oh

not like that

im playing 2s with laine rn

but as disc

i play spri feral with my main homie

[bitter harness]

ahhh ok

[lime light]

Stop flaming the Alpha german special cat force u lil burger cat @stray sigil

[idle rapids]

What's the best hunter spec for jungle atm?

[tall knoll]

I managed to climb to 1599cr in rbgs yesterday, only to drop back down to 1550cr. Gotta love pugging..

[tardy hare]

f

[lime light]

There isn't best Hunter spec

[stray sigil]

@lime light say it to my face fake patron

[lime light]

Survi Has a lot of tools to peel or kite

Bm pure ape damgur

With pets

Mm best tools to stop arms intervene

Biggest burst

@stray sigil doing poo, after iam done i will call u

[inland light]

Can you Kents

Pls

Make out

[wise valley]

German

Isn't machtig Dutch

[bitter harness]

thats the meme

[wise valley]

?

[bitter harness]

dutch people love being called german

[wise valley]

We had this discussion like 3 years ago

[inland light]

Dutchland amitite

[wise valley]

Ion know the diff

[viscid remnant]

the difference is one smokes weed the other doesnt

[wise valley]

Machtig doesn't do drugs bro he's a clean boy role model best son

All those countries all smushed together

[tardy hare]

[wise valley]

😘

[lime light]

[stray sigil]

machtig german freak

[wind rock]

are there any caps or goals i wanna aim for as resto for arenas (2s mainly)? currently stocking up vers(30%), haste (20%)

[bright root]

Messing around as feral in 2s/3s and maybe some rbgs. Currently only have Circle and Draught crafted, which would be the better option generally, or at least the one that's less punishing?

[wise valley]

@stray sigil nobody makes fun of MY BOYFRIEND

Square up homie

[viscid remnant]

I thought machtig keeps the kush upon him

[wise valley]

U sound like the feds

U da cops?

[viscid remnant]

X

[wise valley]

U gotta tell me if u are its da law

[viscid remnant]

[wise valley]

Dude its like 6 30 am in Netherlands rn

Crazy

Machtig literally lives in the future

[lime light]

Kid

[viscid remnant]

Its 5pm in the netherlands im pretty sure

[shell geode]

so is rdruid still poo poo for rbg's?

[lime light]

Most broken healer for a while

But sure

[tardy hare]

No its 17:18 in the Netherlands

!

[tall knoll]

Ive heard that austrians dont like it either when they are called german. And yeah its like 17:20 here.

[tardy hare]

You don't feed on your own supply

[viscid remnant]

i always feed my own game

odesnt matter

[bitter harness]

dont get high on your own supply

[earnest turret]

I would never 🤣

[lime light]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SilkyFurtiveMoonAMPTropPunch-_hbJahowkqsBp-xD

[viscid remnant]

hahashah

[green valve]

whats the stat prio for resto? can i use my haste boomie gear?

or do i want more mastery

[sonic plover]

haste probably

[atomic patrol]

[wise valley]

lf hjealer na yolo rbgs

tank is yours truly

first game carts

[snow ore]

Got into my first RBG pug as Guardian , internet dced at ready check, is it a sign?

[tiny oar]

Vers haste but sum mastery is ok too if that's all you got

[green valve]

Thx bud

Mostly haste anyway

[harsh jasper]

Does anyone have a recommendation for an add on or WA that shows DRs for opponents like I see in the PVP streams?

Im using gladius, losa2, and BGE atm.

Something that tracks my Cyclone, Bash, and maim DR, for example

[sacred path]

@harsh jasper use gladiusEX

[harsh jasper]

ok

[sacred path]

Same mod just a heavier version. Go into interface options and you can flick dr on

[green valve]

Bigdebuffs is a must

[harsh jasper]

Thank you for the recommendation.

[sacred path]

Gotta play with the sizes and placement but yeah - take a peak

Like bate said bigdebuffs is like vip too

I’m positive there’s other ways of mods but that’s what I run with a few others and it seems to be stable and lite

[clear pulsar]

Gladius does

[harsh jasper]

hmmmmm ill check da settings

[clear pulsar]

GladiusEX I had issues with in the past with their cd tracking in particular, but should work just fine for the most part too

[sacred path]

Yeah maybe I was bugged or something- bc I ran regular gladius for that in bfa s4

[wise valley]

damn

faced a rag group in rbg

dude this mage tried to morph me in bear form

at least 10 times

[clear pulsar]

Sounds like he was keeping you in bear form i.e. not doing damage then

[viscid remnant]

[sinful canyon]

Rag players ahead of the curve

[wise valley]

well

im a tank so

more power to him

i 2v1'd him and his rag hunter buddy

they didnt even run

[idle rapids]

Is feral weak or am I bad? Or both

Feel like i'm really struggling to kill people

[fathom hound]

I just got into pvp with boomie, before i had only pve gear, i started buying conquest gear, but i only have 17% vers, doe it worth to switch 220 items for max lvl honor gear and low lvl conquest gear for as much vers as possible?

[tardy hare]

no

[wise valley]

damn

[fathom hound]

17% vers seems low still getting so much dmg and its hard to find a grp below 20%

[wise valley]

10% vers gang

65k health big boye

[wise valley]

feral punishes inefficient damage

[tardy hare]

jsut tell them you have more

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fathom hound]

kek

[wise valley]

50% vers squad

[idle rapids]

What's classed as inefficient damage

like how do you do efficient damgee

surely all classes punish inefficient damage, that's why it's inefficient?

[tardy hare]

do u bleed 2 targets?

[idle rapids]

Yes

[wise valley]

wasting energy on shit that doesnt matter

refreshing rip or rake too early

[tardy hare]

found the problem

[wise valley]

low cp bites

[idle rapids]

I thought the entire point was bleeding people haha

[tardy hare]

bleeds do low dmg

its all about em ferocious bites

[wise valley]

bleed only really good if ur going for damp game

with like aff lock

ur good off heals and single target pressure

[idle rapids]

So I only apply dots to kill target to buff bite right?

[tardy hare]

pretty much

[idle rapids]

Seems kinda weird, why did they gut the bleeds

[tardy hare]

bleeds been kinda shit for ages

[idle rapids]

Ye I didn't play BFA or WoD

Or legion

[wise valley]

u really missed out

[clear pulsar]

Difference between 17 and 25% vers is 4% less damage taken, so if you're dropping for instance from 39k hp to 37k hp, then it's already not worth it

[fathom hound]

alright thanks

[clear pulsar]

Cuz feral has a very diverse playerbase speaking in terms of people don't play it for the playstyle, they play it cuz they're furries, so feedback is all over the place regarding what they want the spec to play like

[junior plover]

While I agree with the sentiment

putting vers and HP at the same EHP ratios is dumb

vers = healer mana

and casts

[clear pulsar]

Hp = bigger FR

[junior plover]

cuz the heals are more effective since you take less damage

[wise valley]

yeah lotta ferals are shitter casuals

most

[junior plover]

yeah that is true

[clear pulsar]

Higher hp = higher armor too

[wise valley]

who cant big brain enough for bleeds

so they want 5 button finisher rotation

[clear pulsar]

What is dumb is acting like these things actually matter instead of just learning to play gud

[surreal heron]

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

f2f spitting huge facts

[wise valley]

damn

this group im in

alliance ofc

no damage

horde = consistent pumpers

[sonic plover]

wait a minute

do I not bleed in 2s even?

[junior plover]

only for taste for blood

[sonic plover]

am I playing this specc completely wrong? 😮

I should bleed up the kill target right and thats it?

not wasting energy on offtarget at all?

MOLD ME!

[junior plover]

I mean you want rip and rake rolling on main target

so u get better bites

but thats it

u can thrash before go

[idle rapids]

wait it's worth the energy to thrash before bursting?

[wise valley]

damn yall playing feral like its wotlk

[viscid remnant]

do damek

[wise valley]

@surreal heron bro why are you always typing?

[surreal heron]

i got a lot to say

[tardy hare]

thrash and shred literally the same cost

[wise valley]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shit-i-forgot-卧槽-that-face-gif-9676901

[idle rapids]

Yeah but shred does a lot more damage

that's why I was surprised

[wise valley]

this is yalls face rn realizing feral not dot class

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt do any more damage actually @idle rapids

Maybe on cloth

[wise valley]

yeah where do u get "alot" more dmg from

[clear pulsar]

But if you're like all vers mastery gear then thrash does the same damage per cast as shred

[tardy hare]

both kinda dont do a lot of damage anyway

[idle rapids]

a lot? the tool tip says it's like

10x as much

that's where I got it from hahaha

[wise valley]

ur shreds do 10k dmg?

bro DM me the cheat codes

[idle rapids]

thrash does 167

and a 500 dot

approx

is what it says

[wise valley]

im just fucking with u

[forest kite]

Haste or crit is better for pvp ?

on bala druid

[blissful belfry]

haste

boomy pvp is vers + haste or vers + mastery

people prefer haste

[clear pulsar]

1250 shred for me vs 200 + 680 for thrash + 3% of bite which is another 275 damage, going off tooltip values @idle rapids

[blissful belfry]

degenerates (like me) prefer mastery for big convokes

[arctic wind]

Is it just me or is there an unfair balance of dmg immunities when it comes to magic vs physical?

[clear pulsar]

What is that supposed to mean lol

[arctic wind]

There are more phys immunities than magic immunities

[clear pulsar]

There is 1 phys immunity

Phys-only

[blissful belfry]

The best magical immunity is present in every game. Pillar

[arctic wind]

Bop, whatever shamans do, die by the sword?

[clear pulsar]

Ok 2, the enhance pvp talent

Parry isn't immunity

[tardy hare]

shamans literally cant do anything in that form

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's garbanzo beans

You can't parry/dodge from behind or if stunned

[arctic wind]

Doesnt really matter much if you convoke as feral, he pops that form, saves it, and well gg 2mins

[clear pulsar]

It's as much of an immunity as interrupts are a magic immunity

[tardy hare]

stun him

: )

[blissful belfry]

for magic you have warlock spell reflect, cloak of shadow. pally bubble. lining begind a pillar. arguably grounding totem

[tardy hare]

convoke him in moonkin form

++

[blissful belfry]

isnt unfair on any side

[clear pulsar]

Spellwarding

[arctic wind]

Hm

[clear pulsar]

From protpala

[arctic wind]

Just seems like you have to get so many cooldowns to be able to actually kill with convoke lol

[blissful belfry]

well, convoke is convoke

[clear pulsar]

You dont have to kill with convoke

How do you think people win games playing other covenants?

[tardy hare]

i meaaannn

[surreal heron]

not one-shotting 😮

[tardy hare]

you get all cds with convoke

gg

[clear pulsar]

If enemy uses 3 large cds to stop your convoke

[tardy hare]

if they dont they die

👍

[clear pulsar]

Your convoke effectively killed them

:)

A 3 or 5 min cd for a naked Convoke is a big win

Especially cuz Convoke gives you a 20% dmg buff for the next 30 seconds

So your next go is large

[arctic wind]

Maybe I havent been doing it right then

[blissful belfry]

yeha, if you feel you cant land a clean convoke. dont try to cheese it. just convoke out of a normal eclipse boat window to bait defensives and stops. then you can set up a god in the next 20-30 sec with incarn triple surge

[arctic wind]

Killing with berserk, fury and bites seems awfully ineffective though

[somber vale]

What's the best lego for restodruid in an RBGs?

[arctic wind]

Its just too slow

[blissful belfry]

nvm me

u a cat

[tardy hare]

wdym

berserk fury bites literally 100-0

gg

[ebon vortex]

VI

[clear pulsar]

70% of ferals above 2.7 arent night fae, tf you mean it's ineffective lol

[ebon vortex]

or mother tree

vi is good if you have focused targets you need to protect, mother tree is very good in team fights

[junior plover]

get out with ur facts and logic

[somber vale]

Thank you

[arctic wind]

Aight man no need to get toxic lel. Im just pointing out what Im struggling with

Im prob just bad and should git gut

If you can 100-0 with berserk and bites well

I cant

[blissful belfry]

that is the general answer to everything tbh

im also bad and in need to get gud

[tardy hare]

where is anyone toxic

[blissful belfry]

classic german toxicity

[arctic wind]

its 2021 everyone is toxic. Im just following the stream man.

And getting offended by it

[blissful belfry]

i told someone in my raid group to get gud and he called me a screaming kid. should i be offended

[foggy ravine]

Use convoke as its own go

[arctic wind]

Thats what I do

Get some shit

And then still struggle to kill after

With zerk bites.

But ey man 70% of ferals are not NF so I gotta get good

[foggy ravine]

Are you just biting or you maiming your zerk go

[arctic wind]

Either maim or bash

[foggy ravine]

Are you getting cc out on the healer on goes or is your gear just shit

[arctic wind]

Gear is shit.

Nah really not

[foggy ravine]

What ilvl?

[arctic wind]

203 with 26 vers

[foggy ravine]

Well that’s why you aren’t killing anything

203 you hit like wet noodle

Well part of the reason

[spring turtle]

How’s he supposed to get better gear then

[blissful belfry]

yeah, low ilvl will get u nowhere

[foggy ravine]

Well idk where he’s stuck rating wise but rbgs is free gear

[arctic wind]

I mean tbh I watch Snupy alot, and his bites are not bigger than mine..

I mean not a lot

I sometimes hit 10k. But they are usually around 8k crits

[blissful belfry]

i would argue someone at 220+ ilvl will bite harder than someone at 203

[arctic wind]

good point

[blissful belfry]

if it scales any kind of way similar to boomy. i see bomy criting for 12k at low ilvl, while i rock em with 21k

[arctic wind]

I mean I havent seen Snupy ever crit 20+k

[blissful belfry]

starting late in the season in arena is much harder than other content tho. in the first few weeks you could be 2100 with 200 ilvl and get 226 gear. now people are sitting at 220+ ilvl at 1600 cr that only rewards 213

[arctic wind]

Yea thats a big issue tbh

For me atleast

[spring turtle]

Is it worth pushing this late into the season you think?

[blissful belfry]

define worth

[arctic wind]

If you like PvP ofc it is

[spring turtle]

Good enough for me

[idle rapids]

With fearful symmetry and zerk up, do i do 4cp bites after the first finisher or 5cp ones?

Because I heard it's supposed to be 4 but i'm not sure

[spring turtle]

I’ve got 2100 on my dh, but am playing my boomy now a lot more, I guess I’ll see what I can hit

[blissful belfry]

like for me, i already have my 2100. i know i wont get my 2400. i have no gear left to be had. So its only "worth'' for me to push my rating for fun

[junior plover]

Demon armor buffs?

where

[junior plover]

just get 2400??

[blissful belfry]

im a 2head. i suck harder than my momma and i have friends who are even worse to push with me

[junior plover]

U got 2100 in 3s or 2s

[blissful belfry]

both

[junior plover]

rating inflation coming

[blissful belfry]

with both specs

[junior plover]

late season inflated as well

u can get 2400 2s

tbh

[blissful belfry]

i could try 2s, i guess. but resto night fae is hard

and i dont have a partner im confident in to push. Also, i did troll games with my shit friends and now both my ratings are down to 1800. so lfg wont save my soul

[turbid jolt]

What soulbind you use for resto night fae 2s

[blissful belfry]

literally went 0-12 in 3s with my friends

[junior plover]

Ye i dropped from 2k to 1200 in 3s

[blissful belfry]

[junior plover]

back to 1600 now

[blissful belfry]

i guess once i kill denatrius i'll ask for a raiding pause and dedicate some time to pvp

[sinful canyon]

is there any reason not to just use macros like this over creating individual focus macros

if you plan on having them be same key with a mod ofc

[junior plover]

Nope

[sinful canyon]

nice

back to work i go

i have made the executive decision to be a focus macro only gamer

tried doing arena 123 stuff and my brain almost ruptured

am doing party 1 2 tho so baby steps

[junior plover]

I dont do even that

im just a melee zug zug gamer

you have a left mouse button for a reason

[sinful canyon]

true

why make macro when click do trick

[blissful belfry]

Tru

Im a boomy, so my kicks arent really there. But i never found the mental strenght to modify my playstyle with focus targets and arena 1-2-3 macros

[safe heart]

i just spam the 4s

oh shit i wasnt scrolled down

[blissful belfry]

lol

[sinful canyon]

F

[safe heart]

random but

does anyone here stream on 4k monitor?

[wise valley]

bro rbgs so fucking easy

[blissful belfry]

yes and no. i stream (casually to 2 viewer peaks. me included) i have a 4k monitor, but i dont broadcast it in 4k

[safe heart]

what software do you use? i find with OBS i cant get the settings to stream my whole screen

[blissful belfry]

i have streamlab obs

or smth

but i had a lot (lot ) of trouble setting it up to stream correctly

because of resolution

[clear pulsar]

2.4k convoke boomies btw

Like bfa destros

Don't need cross cc

[viscid remnant]

Dont need cc

Need damek

[blissful belfry]

thats how arena shoud be. no cc, no interupt. no pillar. Just a 15 yard by 15 yard room where you get droped in and blast till one dies

[viscid remnant]

This is the way

[clear pulsar]

Sounds like Joe Rogan's dream vision for MMA

'What if we just put them in a basketball court with no gloves

[wise valley]

im on an rbg roll

crushing it

[blissful belfry]

no gloves. no rules. no stoppage. Hit till it bleeeds! Then hit again

[placid locust]

Have a rdruid as one of my many alts. Do I need to swap from NF to necrolord?

[junior plover]

pretty much yeah

[blissful belfry]

If you only want to pvp with him, yes

[placid locust]

I enjoy M+ as well

No raid though

[clear pulsar]

Yeah necro is fine

You can just use flourish for prides

Necro with VI must actually be kinda nice in dungeons

Tank healing becomes a breeze as far as maintenance

Full uptime CW and AS big heals

So you do a lot of damage outside of mechanics that need group healing

Ofc missing the HOTW Pride Convokes is unforch but still

[wise valley]

damn

went from 2-0 wsg to 2-3

holy fuck

tryna pve

in pvp

group lead is 20k health feral doing less than holies

[oak palm]

i encountered leader who was DH tank, at 1600, who got flag and then stood in a corner in flag room

and when enemies came, he made no effort to kite

fast 0-3

[wise valley]

i kited like 4 people for 2 mins straight

[oak palm]

he had the idea that he we could outheal 12 stacks

[wise valley]

team had no prio on targets

[indigo forum]

is there any situation where you go blood talons or is frenzy always the way to go?

[wise valley]

yeah every situation you go bt

unless u simpin

[indigo forum]

really?

everyone plays frenzy

i have seen atleast

[wise valley]

whos everyone?

he got bitches?

i gotta meet everyone

[indigo forum]

ytubers and ppl i meet in arena

1.9k rating

snupy is frenzy

im new to feral so just wondering

[wise valley]

ssounds like u have a solid thing going for u

best not dwell on it too long

[indigo forum]

i tried BT in an bg and it kinda slaped

[oak palm]

for 3's as NF boomie, would you reccomend BOAT or TW dreambinder?

[wise valley]

either is viable unless youre 3k cr

[oak palm]

does BOAT have m,uch value outside convoke?

[wise valley]

boat is more burst

binder is more sustained and usually paired with kyrian

[oak palm]

I am not even 1300cr, jsut starting 😛

[blissful belfry]

then it doesnt matter

its 2 different playstyles

chose the ones you prefer

[wise valley]

if u wanna go boom boom go boat if u wanna go pow pow go binder

[blissful belfry]

boat gives triple surges go with crit on em. dreambinder gives 5 surge goes every minute. Boat gives big 3 min goes ca convoke boom boom

[oak palm]

BOAT paired with vers-mas?

dreambinder? still vers-mas or vers-has?

[wise valley]

the stat prio not really important

u like haste for fast clones

mast for surges

[blissful belfry]

vers-haste is the usual stats for boomies. vers-mast is for cheesier convoke. but it doesnt matter. as long as you have enough haste to clone targets reliably

[wise valley]

unless ur a juke god like myself

[oak palm]

thanks

[wise valley]

lmao i got 4 hibs off on enemy boomy

in wsg

while holding flag

[blissful belfry]

oof

[wise valley]

"go sleep lil homie its beddy bye time"

[blissful belfry]

hibernating fellow druid. such bad manners

[wise valley]

fuck druids

[blissful belfry]

although if a boomy gets hibe. he deserrves it

[wise valley]

i sat BS in AB earlier

and every single time 1 feral would pop out of stealth to sneak cap

while i was watching

dude ate hibs all games lmfao

[blissful belfry]

[wise valley]

feel bad for him

he did his whole combo

and convoke

during my demo roar

i remember played feral/mage in mirror match in legion and it was the longest 2s ever

just people dodging morphs/hibs/clones all game

[oak palm]

are survival hunters more annyoing after patch or is it just me?

not sure if they got buffed or something

[wise valley]

everything about hunters is annoying

[tardy hare]

fuck

i was about to record a great video

for my RBG guardian guide series

but it recorded discord instead of wow screen

cause i was alt tabbed while playing guardian

[wise valley]

edit it into video

[surreal heron]

[wise valley]

im sure u will make it funny

[tardy hare]

the video is literally just 20 seconds of this channel beinh inactive

xd

[wise valley]

what pvp talents u running?

[oak palm]

haha

[wise valley]

i got denmother rn but its useless outside of teamfights

[tardy hare]

i play toughness, raging frenzy, demo roar

[raven remnant]

Does anyone know why I can't macro Medallion/trinket with a off-gcd ability?

[wise valley]

okay

we the same

same dudes

@raven remnant are you typing /use 14

in macro

[tardy hare]

because u fuck up the macro

[wise valley]

the equipment slot

[raven remnant]

I'm typign the exact name

[wise valley]

13 or 14 depending

[clear pulsar]

What ability?

[tardy hare]

maybe accidental extra space?

[raven remnant]

Like it works outside of a stun

but if i use it to actually break a stun

it doesn't work

guardian incarn

[tardy hare]

what are you putting together

[raven remnant]

#showtooltip Sinful Aspirant's Medallion
/use Sinful Aspirant's Medallion
/cast Incarnation: Guardian of Ursoc(Talent, Shapeshift)

[wise valley]

should delete that tbh

[raven remnant]

?

[wise valley]

what if u dont need to use incarn

[raven remnant]

Its a special use thing

[tardy hare]

why make 3 buttons when u can have 2

[raven remnant]

I have a seperate trinket only keybind

[wise valley]

and a sep incarn

to each their own

[raven remnant]

I'm trying to use this in the situation where I have to trinket something and cannot afford to get into another CC

(by using sleeper leg)

[clear pulsar]

It sounds pretty useless if you have berserk and trinket bound already

But

Try writing Berserk

Instead of incarn

[raven remnant]

The thing is that it actually works if I'm not in a stun

Like I can rpess it and itll use trinket + pop incarn

[wise valley]

wait

[clear pulsar]

That's just your latency then

[raven remnant]

But if I actually use it to break something it won't cast incarn

[wise valley]

isnt that cus they stopped string of abilities or whatever

[clear pulsar]

A little tiny delay between you pressing macro and server registering you're out of cc

[raven remnant]

I tried spamming it

And a rogue was able to double sap me

[wise valley]

he said mash

angrily

[bitter harness]

harder

HARDER

[wise valley]

better

[clear pulsar]

You don't have to trinket sap if you are in melee range

Just barkskin

[tardy hare]

just press barkskin instead

👍

[tardy hare]

fucck u

[raven remnant]

I was in this situation where I tried to re-stealth

[bitter harness]

[raven remnant]

And th erogue caught me away form flag

[clear pulsar]

Too slow old man @tardy hare

[raven remnant]

and I had to trinket sap

Then I got insta-blinded obviously

I wasn't far enough away

[clear pulsar]

Ok so we've established that the server registers you pressing the macro (and thus incarn) before it registers that you are out of cc

[raven remnant]

I was in the process of moving away

[wise valley]

sounds like u should just use normal binds

[raven remnant]

i.e., get rogue while he's capping; mvoe towards rogue at flag; he vanishes; I stealth and try to reset; he catches me 10 yards form flag and saps me

Then I trinket and get blinded

and its gg

😦

[clear pulsar]

If you came out of stealth just press moonfire

[wise valley]

yeah misplay on ur part

[raven remnant]

I'm rpetty sure thats what I did

[wise valley]

maxcro wont help

[raven remnant]

Then I moved towards flag

To barkin etc.

He restealths

I stealth

Move away - get sapped

Prior to getting to 40 yards or w/e

[wise valley]

so u saw him taking flag

and didnt approach>mf>thrash

[raven remnant]

Right and then I moonfire from 40

Then rush towards him

[wise valley]

he gon

like my daddy

[raven remnant]

Then he vanish etc.

And I'm out of position

[wise valley]

flag cap like 6 sec?

[raven remnant]

something like that

[wise valley]

walk up and thrash

cant cloak bleeds

[raven remnant]

Can't he vanish bleeds?

[clear pulsar]

Just sit on top of flag tbh

[wise valley]

vanish removes bleeds?

[clear pulsar]

Vanish gives a shield

Guardian dots prob not strong enough to go thru

[tardy hare]

does cloak actually protect him from being stopped by casts?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but cloak only 5s

[blissful belfry]

yeah the rogue conduits gives you a shield when stealthed and dots dont break no more

[wise valley]

wow

[raven remnant]

I thoght it was better to be stealth at range than sit on flag to perserve cds like barkskin

Cause I'll have to barkskin the sap

[clear pulsar]

Barkskin is a 35s cd tf you preserving it for

[raven remnant]

Can't he vanish and then re-sap me and it;ll be off DR?.

[clear pulsar]

It takes 18 seconds

TO come off DR

[stray sigil]

go stealth

[clear pulsar]

After sap is over

[stray sigil]

wait for skin back

repeat

[clear pulsar]

You can only get sapped if you're out of combat

Which then you can restealth

[tardy hare]

barkskin

incarn

barkskin again

[raven remnant]

Yeah but if i'm stealthed ont he flag can't he just find me

[tardy hare]

still haven't used trinket

[stray sigil]

dont prowl on the flag

prowl anywhere

when skin is back

go back on flag

[raven remnant]

Man I'm hearing all of you but I feel like there is so much opposing views on this

[tardy hare]

xd

team doesn't rotate

[wise valley]

15s

[raven remnant]

Every other time I ask this I get a different answer

[wise valley]

lmao

[stray sigil]

listen

[haughty compass]

Probably don’t Base sit

[stray sigil]

u got the answers

from the only good players

in this cord

[raven remnant]

Nah Like I trust you guys and want to improve my game

[edgy shale]

frenzyband

[raven remnant]

But am super confused on what the optimal play is

[stray sigil]

ignore ipod though

[wise valley]

LOL

[stray sigil]

he is not in the good players group

[tardy hare]

optimal play is hella relative to the situation

rogue can be an idiot

[wise valley]

you gotta not be obvious as fuck

[tardy hare]

u do other stuff

[raven remnant]

i feel like against a rogue capping it's super scritped though no?

[edgy shale]

ya cuz im in te GREAT player group

[wise valley]

make the rogue work harder so dont sit RIGHT ON flag

[tardy hare]

idk rogue cant cap on you really

[stray sigil]

gr8 pve rodent mayb

[raven remnant]

isn't the radius on barksin pretty smal?

[clear pulsar]

Did you know people in #feral call him max???

I was wilding when I saw that

[tardy hare]

its pretty big

besides

[edgy shale]

[tardy hare]

he's probably on top of you

and the moment he blinds you

he still neesd to walk

or he forgets

and just gets stopped

[stray sigil]

max ?

tf ?

his name quite clearly ipod

[tardy hare]

people are fucking dumb at any rating

they dont even know how to dodge brambles at 2.4

[raven remnant]

People don't know it exists

Maybe rogues do I guess

[tardy hare]

they dont

they just start capping

get confused why their cap got interrupted

then target you again

or run away

[wise valley]

what does barkskin radius have to do with anything

am i dumb

new guardian btw

[tardy hare]

brambles cap interrupt

[raven remnant]

IF you're on the flag though

[wise valley]

oh yeah

[tardy hare]

just walk on top of the capping rogue and press it

[wise valley]

i knowed this

[tardy hare]

[raven remnant]

The issue i'm having is the cost-benefit of being stealthed 40 yards away or on top of the flag

[tardy hare]

you can just walk up to him

walk

wild charge

touch him

g

g

[raven remnant]

While he's capping you mean?

[wise valley]

if ur really worried just take feral aff and rake stun into clone

[tardy hare]

nono

boomy aff more range

[wise valley]

push ur defense powers into the unseen echelon

[raven remnant]

Man I have no idea how im 1900 in rbgs

I literally have no idea what im doing

[wise valley]

dude i been thinking of boomy aff

typhoon too damn good in bgs

[tardy hare]

don't worry you're the same as all the other people in RBG then

[wise valley]

u just sit prowl and at times, sit bear

maybe heal a fella or something

but never, ever, ever, put effort into it

[raven remnant]

all of this is because of some 200iq rogue i faced yesterday

against my 100iq guardian brain

[wise valley]

he prolly dumb af irl

he plays a rogue

now you know

[oak palm]

Convoke doesn't hit root+solar beam, will it hit only roots?

[wise valley]

and u can try out whichever answer u remember

[raven remnant]

Won't hit roots

[wise valley]

it dont hit rootbeam cus root is breakable?

[raven remnant]

Yep

[wise valley]

why would it hit just roots

[oak palm]

Was just making sure, I am new

[clear pulsar]

It avoids all breakable cc

[tardy hare]

hello new

[raven remnant]

So back to my macro - is this a deliberate thing by blizz or is this rogue just able to sap me before bezerk registers?

gonna go see if I can find a rogue to duel

[wise valley]

probably what face said

latency

on 2 instant casts

that macro seems whack tho

and it doesnt solve ur problem

[bitter harness]

same thing happens all the time with nature's swiftness + regrowth macros

[wise valley]

not getting caught solves ur problems

i dont like security nets

[raven remnant]

Gotta have a safety blanket yo

[wise valley]

you wear a parachute? pussy. i just jump and punch the earth hard

[oak palm]

:)

[raven remnant]

Alright so it just doesnt work if I'm in a stun at all

Must be server latency registering that I'm not in a stun

So will this work: #showtooltip Sinful Aspirant's Sigil of Adaptation
/use Sinful Aspirant's Medallion
/equipslot 14 Sinful Aspirant's Sigil of Adaptation

[clear pulsar]

If you're out of combat yes

[raven remnant]

Which I should be if its sap right

That should avoid sap-->blind

Or am I dumb

[tardy hare]

you do not want to play adaptation

[raven remnant]

Isn't that what people do though? Switch to adaptation until trinket is <30s left

[tardy hare]

never heard of it

[clear pulsar]

It's a thing

I've heard about it

Seems kinda pointless tbh but

[raven remnant]

wouldn't it really mess with sap blind though

[clear pulsar]

Could be clutch

[raven remnant]

I really hate rogues

whats the duration of second sap in a chain?

[oak palm]

If you hate rogues, ask how prot pala feel about them

8-4-2 should be

[wise valley]

Make sure u don't ignore the good advice u got

[green valve]

i mean prot palas can rot in hell

[tardy hare]

y'all hating on prot paladins

looking like this

[raven remnant]

OK so the trinket macro worked

I insta got out of blind

[oak palm]

Prot pala FCs I mean, yeah they exist in low cra

[wise valley]

Machtig riding prot pala looking like

I'll do some ms paint magic on that in a min

[raven remnant]

I found some random GM rogue in stormwind and he told me that guardian who sits on flag is the msot annoyingf

[foggy ravine]

or

you just make a trinket swap macro for if you get sapped

use medallion swap to auto trinket

rogue cries as he blinds auto trinket

[raven remnant]

Yeah he told me everyones been doing that for ages

[oak palm]

And get slapped again :p

[raven remnant]

And them bind auto-trinket to ther 20% reduction one

[foggy ravine]

then the sap is DR'd and it doesn't matter

but as a druid don't get sapped

ez

[raven remnant]

The issue is getting sapped during the reset

Which apparently happens to me all the time

But this trinket macro will help for sure

[blissful belfry]

how good / bad would running relentless be for sittin. 7s gets reduced to 5.6s Cant cap unless they come as a team right?

[wise valley]

@tardy hare

damn im good

[tardy hare]

that's me

[wise valley]

taking my ass to art college

[foggy ravine]

blind is 8s so with relentless they can still cap

[oblique drum]

whats the go to feral pvp legendary? Eye of Fearful Symmetry

[tardy hare]

ye

[oblique drum]

cool, thanks

[blissful belfry]

gotta show what our boi is trampling

[wind bramble]

Guys just starting doing arenas as a resto, and was wondering... what food do we take to restore mana in arena?

[wise valley]

Isn't there only 1 food?

Usable in arena?

[wind bramble]

No idea

[clear pulsar]

It's base 8 seconds

Not 7

[blissful belfry]

Only food that gives no health is allowed. and mage food

[wise valley]

Relentless is not the move

[wind bramble]

So is there a go to food everyone picks besides mage food?

[raven remnant]

Can use relentless if trinket + adaptation on CD

[blissful belfry]

oh its 8

[raven remnant]

imo

[blissful belfry]

damn

[foggy ravine]

if you don't have medallion off cd

you shouldn't be solo sitting

[blissful belfry]

Sooo. relentless + sephuz? pepelaugh

[foggy ravine]

doesn't stack

[blissful belfry]

oh

kill me thne

[wise valley]

Relentless is not the move

[foggy ravine]

just use medallion and don't go near the flag

[wise valley]

this technically means machtig has fanart @blissful belfry

[raven remnant]

Unless you're guardian - right sunshine?

[tardy hare]

[wise valley]

wdym

[tardy hare]

it will be kept for future use

: )

[wise valley]

@raven remnant

[raven remnant]

Referring to broteins message of don't go near the flag

[wise valley]

not every sitch going to be same

[raven remnant]

Im just gonna panick and press all of my defensives at the same time

[wise valley]

ive seen 2.2k rbgers do worse

[clear pulsar]

Generally speaking boomie sits far from flag, guardian sits on top of flag

But I mean

You can do it any way you like

Just yell at everyone else to come help

If you can spin for 25s or so then you can blame your team 100%

[tardy hare]

i usually sit far from flag

idk whats optimal

but it works

[raven remnant]

Yall call for help even if just 1 person is trolling you as guardian?

[tardy hare]

nah

if theres a rogue i dont

[clear pulsar]

It depends

[tardy hare]

if theres rogue + something else

sure

[clear pulsar]

Yeah rogue should never solo cap me

[tardy hare]

i tell em there is one

[clear pulsar]

But if it's like

[tardy hare]

but that they should not worry

as i will murder him

[clear pulsar]

Someone from the fight

Then yeah

If it's a rogue ghosting then jsut yell at people to take the rogue's base

[tardy hare]

yeah thats a bit too advanced face

[raven remnant]

Because I'm terrible. By sit on the flag do you mean in cat in stealth; or literally on top of the flag as a bear; or alternatively in stealth away but then go onto the flag once you see them cap-attempt

I need a flowchart guys

[clear pulsar]

I just sit as boomie tbh

But generally if you have barkskin

You should totally be safe to sit in melee range of flag

[raven remnant]

right and then stealth if they reset until barksin is off CD

[wise valley]

I thought knuckle guard whole time

[clear pulsar]

Also brambles range is same as thrash/swipe

[wise valley]

If ur boomy u don't get brambles?

[clear pulsar]

So if you're balance affinity it's pretty large

[stuck heart]

can anyone help me with a macro? I want it to shift to cat if indoors (but stay cat if already cat). I want it to shift to travel form from cat if outdoors, but shift to cat if any other form outdoors.

[raven remnant]

I didn't know barkin range was that big

[supple path]

#showtooltip
/cast [indoors] Cat Form; [outdoors] Travel Form

[clear pulsar]

/use [indoors,noform:2][]Cat Form(Shapeshift)```

[supple path]

not gonna stay cat tho (mine)

[forest kite]

does resto affinity actually increase your healing done or just grant you access to more healing spells?

[pure marsh]

Hey guys i noticed that sometimes when im in any others forms if i try to dispel my teammate i see the animation of the spell but nothing get dispelled

i need to recast it again

its not a different hotkey or macro between forms and human form .. anyone else noticed that ?

[shell geode]

rdruid question, for rbg what are my pvp talents and leggy? thx!

[clear pulsar]

Could be out of line of sight or range

It would still take you out of cat form

And try to cast

But not actually cast?

[pure marsh]

hmmmmmm possible

i'll watch if it could be that

[pallid coral]

necrolording out

yeah

[edgy shale]

oh is that wat that is

that hapens a ton

i just assumed it was OCE players lagging

i thought mc bug just made ppl dc

nuanced bug

[wise valley]

Lmao

Wasn't he permed

[edgy shale]

he was playing with crusader last night

they were actually winning every single game

[wise valley]

Crusader

Hmmm

[edgy shale]

GOT something to say?

[stray sigil]

crusdaer is like 1800 on all his toons isnt he

[edgy shale]

u psychopath fuck

absolutely not

he's literally 2700 on some toons w/ 200 ilvl no leggo and 150 conduits

[tiny oar]

Big dam judge

[shell geode]

what's the go to leggy for rdruid in rbg? circle?

[edgy shale]

uhh i think the lifebloom one or the rejuv one

[foggy ravine]

mother tree or verdant

[tiny oar]

Ye that

But also its rbgs so could just as well roll in there with no leggo and get 2400 ez

[foggy ravine]

throw some rejuvs and just jump in circles

[dim rain]

pvp cov still NF?

for feral i mean

[shell geode]

so basically roll whatever leggy i like?

[forest kite]

@dim rain — came here for that same question. I thought I read somewhere that Necro was good for feral pvp; and that was even before this recent buff.

[tiny oar]

Necro horseshit for feral pvp stick with kyrian or fae

[tiny oar]

Most commonly used leggos for resto rbgs is mother tree or VI but you'd probably be fine with vision too if that's the only one you got

[forest kite]

What what scenarios would kyrian outshine fae? Not sarcastic, genuinely curious — thanks!

[oak palm]

Good combo for 2's as bookie?

[stray sigil]

@tiny oar u fuckin wat

[tiny oar]

Wat u want bro

[stray sigil]

u said necro dogshit

u wanna go at it ?

1v1 me

[tiny oar]

Kyrian just more consistent / regular burst for gos but theres plenty of high rated fae ferals axtin formy etc so u can make big convokes work too

[tiny oar]

Bro pls tell me u didnt go necro lol o NO

[forest kite]

Okay, quick Q&A — best Feral PvP cov and why, for
rated bg:
arena:
1v1:

I’m sure it’s fae for pve yeah? M+/Raid ?

[foggy ravine]

axtin is actually necro now

[tiny oar]

Lol theres no way man

[foggy ravine]

I promise you

he pumped my brains out as necro cat in an rbg yesterday

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Stormreaver/Axtin

[stray sigil]

ya we did go necro

[tiny oar]

Omg he is lol

[stray sigil]

fox also necro on his horde feral

[tiny oar]

Wtf is happening

[foggy ravine]

it looks like his horde druid is still fae

[tiny oar]

Did corona mess with all ur brains

[stray sigil]

na he was playing necro on stream today

mayb didnt log off

necro actually not bad

[foggy ravine]

he was top damage in the rbg with like 700k rip damage

obv not the same as arena but he was pumpin'

[stray sigil]

hes doing 3s right now lol

axtin that is

[forest kite]

does resto affinity have a large enough benefit over guardian to run it in spicy chicken or ele boom?

[spring turtle]

No way imo

[forest kite]

having ursol's seems niche but it feels weird to drop form to toss out rejuv's and swiftmend

[arctic wind]

Way I see it, Convoke can force some CDs naked, without popping any of yours. So tactically it seems like a better option

But wtf do I know I suck at Feral

I mostly get my shit from Snupy and he's only 2.5k

[honest mesa]

iirc he has like 4 or 5 druids now all in the 2,5-3,1 range

[blissful belfry]

my my my, you guys hear me complain about the warrior of my guild all the time. And ima do it again.

look at that shitter

https://clips.twitch.tv/FlaccidThirstySardineOhMyDog-K1-ssl9WhSuIs2aO

nice

he's like ''i dont have the good conduit set-up''. Yeah sure. Your conduit set-up is giving you the IQ of a rabbid dog. right

[arctic wind]

Haha

Ey wtf

If I write what you said in the video it gets deleted

But you can say it and post it? Next level discrimination man

[blissful belfry]

hehehehe

[arctic wind]

Btw does anyone know when warriors are getting nerfed on their dmg?

Its quite redic atm innit

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

Lol

Never

Enjoy ur new warrior overlords

[hardy night]

I mean they do dmg but die in one sec also

😂

[forest kite]

balance pvp still go haste/verse?

[edgy shale]

yes

war die in 1 second?

[hardy night]

Atleast both my mm hunt and sub rog down warrs pretty fast If they aint backed up by pocket heals, My boomy aint Max yet but what ive seen i think it Will Be The same they just Melt in opener burst.

[edgy shale]

[hardy night]

[smoky sail]

Look like you underestimate warrior real hard

[forest kite]

and NF balance still go BOAT over Time?

[edgy shale]

[spiral lichen]

plot twist that warrior is 2.5kcr this season @blissful belfry

[hardy night]

@smoky sail thers nothing to underestimate, if he aint popping every defensive on any burst class go warrs are Insta dead.

[smoky sail]

Why would he tank burst for free? X)

[tall knoll]

I think we are not playing against the same warriors... venthyr warriors are pretty busted atm

[hardy night]

Youd Be supriced how many have reaction Time of a snail 😂

When you lit can kill in few seconds

[smoky sail]

Like on every other classes

[hardy night]

Warrs cant pick fights

Rog,Hunter druid can

[tall knoll]

Until you start meeting good ones that just reflect your clones and know how to use their defensives. And you want to slam your head in the wall

[smoky sail]

1.2 warrior gate open battle stance charge ye ofc you kill in stun cuz Los healer

[tardy hare]

Wdym pop every cd xd

Enemy go ham

Disarm

Gg

Enemy caster go ham

Leap behind pillar

Gg

[smoky sail]

Warrior is just disgustingly overpower

[hardy night]

Pfff idk every warr i face on 3s or 2s must be braindead then

[tardy hare]

Yes

[hardy night]

[smoky sail]

Yes

[tardy hare]

That is very characteristic for warriors

[hardy night]

True

[smoky sail]

Good warrior is fuckin world boss

[hardy night]

But im currently 1.9k 3s and 2k on 2s and still they all shit i mean i see better dks than warrs lately 🤣

If u wanna cry bout something lets talk priest

[smoky sail]

Cuz 70% of ladder is war

[hardy night]

Mh thats true

Everyone and their mother has alt warr

[smoky sail]

So ofc there's bad one who still climb cuz class

[tall knoll]

Rogue mage and warrior hpal. Thats like 70% of 2s right there

[tardy hare]

There's a reason the bad ones are there

But theyre still there

: )

[hardy night]

Double boomy one trick #dream

If they dont die to convoke then u just exit and que again 🤣