so youre saying top 10% bloated with achievement hunters and people with lowest % of games played
#pvp
wise valley
tropic panther
if they're being carried their avg MMR is the current rating but you're facing a top player
clear pulsar
The site that says 1800 is top 10% of the ladder also says the bottom 25% is literally under 1200
Like
tropic panther
i don't think that makes the rating any easier to achieve lol
clear pulsar
You do understand 1200 is not a real bracket right?
That's placement games
1200 is like the bottom, it's like being iron in league
wise valley
you cannot gather accurate data for dictating the %'s of wow ranks
go back to cc stat class and shoot your professor
clear pulsar
Anything lower than that is literally placement games, and the ladder distribution that says 1800 is top 10% says that 25% of the characters being counted are below the minimum basically
wise valley
off topic but steak noodles and broccoli so fucking good
clear pulsar
You'd have a better argument saying the rating cutoffs for each title are akin to other games (glad = diamond, duelist = plat, rival = gold, challenger = silver, combatant = bronze) than rival being top 10% = top 10% in other ranked competitive games imo.
tropic panther
that makes no sense lol
wise valley
bro r u trolling
deft portal
Perhaps top 10% is assuming the entire player base? 😜
clear pulsar
Ok so you do understand that the bottom of the ladder in wow is not 0 rating right?
The worst players imaginable are not queueing it up at 50 mmr games
deft portal
When did they change it from the old days where the starting point was 1500?
wise valley
u get like 90 rating per win until like 12-1300
haughty compass
I’ve seen someone at 800 rating with like 70 games played
deft portal
I thought you don’t even start losing rating until 1000+
clear pulsar
Probably not, Frenzyband could be kinda nice but Symmetry should still be the default recommended one
I don't think Frenzyband will be sick but it could
Maybe Necro cat with Circle or Draught will rise up from the ashes
But I'd assume people have one of those for pve already anyway
hearty tapir
wish cats eye would be worth it more
clear pulsar
I have cat-eye and it feels just about the same as symmetry
You can pool more so going into berserk you can bite shred bite shred for a longer chain
It's kinda whatever idk
Nothing that should make or break any push
hearty tapir
hmmm wonder why they nerfed curio back down to 30%
wise valley
u lose like 5 rating
at 1k
but its impossible to do it unless ur an idiot
cus u still win lik 70-90 per game
lean bear
I've unironically seen a guy with 1000 games with a max rating of 997
I even took a screen of it
These people exist
It was 500 games actually but still
weak hinge
Did he boost?
blissful belfry
no, his season record is 1114 (still low) but yeah
On a side note. My ret alt at 140 ilvl was queing at 800 mmr at its lowest
I reckon a completely clueless player with 140 ilvl right now would probably have a 400-500 mmr
blissful belfry
issa hard to win games when your highest crits are 4k dmg
strikin people down with a bfa gethikku
wise valley
Its hard to even be that clueless
It's probably a child
Or someone with a handicap
Should teach my nephew pvp
Someday he can be king of the 1600s
tidal linden
I need to queue up with these 500mmr people so I can feel like pikaboo carrying his viewers 😂
clear pulsar
Rdru is ok, I'd say better in 2s, worse in 3s, maybe same same in rbgs compared to rsham rn
It's getting a decently good buff for next patch too
fickle garnet
As someone who's mmr was 900ish for a bit, it's truly amazing to see.
Me and my friend hit 60 a few hours before reset and wanted our pvp vault so we queued 2s at 140ish iLevel with Balance Druid/MM Hunter.
By the 900 mark is where we hard stuck because we'd get two-shot by anyone who had actual gear.
You'll see warriors s keying away and unable to press abilities while moving, mages who press almost exclusively fireball and try to keyboard turn to face you, etc.
It's a shame that the 200 iLevel Ret who does the same just pressed divine toll and we'd die.
safe heart
and thats why ret and warrior are the most played class right now lol
heavy harbor
and thats why ret and warrior are the most played class right now lol
We used to call classes like this “faceroll”. Haven’t heard the term in a while but everytime I heard “Divine Toll” from gladiosa and someone dies, I remember that term.
safe heart
theres a warrior main in here lurking screenshotting stuff back to the warrior discord
"oh no guys they figured out you can use s key, save charge for that"
clear pulsar
Isn't it literally just emblem?
true hound
nop like 20 trinkets
blissful belfry
PvE trinket that wont be seen in arenas. Or rarely be seen. If people didnt use them before, the slight buff to some wont change that
wise valley
Warrior discord
Is full of mongo rerards
I got better advice from warrior class trainer
wise valley
Like rogue discord
Full of pika wannabes
Who told me sprint+s key+ evasion was not good tactic against warriots
heavy cairn
To be fair if you are gonna be a wannabe pikaboo wannabe is top tier
wise valley
U know how many shitty warriors I've trolled just moonwalking their cds
heavy cairn
You mean they don’t just Condem you?
left fjord
this is a pretty comfortable block
heavy cairn
If you are a rogue it’s diff but everyone else nope warriors are uptime Andy’s rn
wise valley
I mean u could still do it lmao but not much gonna come from it
wise valley
People hate warrs cus they want their class to be simple
heavy cairn
I think people hate wars cuz the blast rn and have a ton of utility lol
wise valley
Playing a simple class feels good u focus on other shit when only 4 keys importsnt lol
heavy cairn
Class a hates class b. Class b hates class c and class c hates class a
heavy cairn
Condem is just bad design
wise valley
No
heavy cairn
Good take
wise valley
What was your s1 bfa complaint on warriors
wise valley
@heavy cairn
heavy cairn
But in general most class design is bad
@wise valley I don’t complain I just queue up
wise valley
Fair
clear pulsar
Sounds like you complain
heavy cairn
Things are pretty stale rn but is what it is
clear pulsar
A fair amount
clear pulsar
Maybe I'm getting lost in translation
wise valley
I've never complained once in my life
wise valley
People hate op shit yeah
Feral in legion
Man I miss legion feral
Cant wait for legion re release 
heavy cairn
Legion was nice for arena alts lol
I played so many things in arena it was great tbh
heavy cairn
Not being able to manage your own stats was meh but it was nice for just queueing up
clear pulsar
Not being able to manage your own stats was meh but it was nice for just queuein...
Let's not pretend there is any diversity in secondary stats rn anyway
heavy cairn
In legion there was for feral
clear pulsar
Having a pvp vendor effectively puts you in a template anyway
wise valley
Cant remember legion system
heavy cairn
Legion was just press q
clear pulsar
The 'choose your stats' thing is bullshit tho
wise valley
Except hasted vleeds
clear pulsar
That shit don't matter
heavy cairn
I would disagree
clear pulsar
No one's out here experimenting with full crit mastery gear 0% vers
wise valley
Idk
heavy cairn
What do I complain about?
wise valley
Formy actually did do full crit LOL
heavy cairn
I was just saying controlling your own stats is nice
Sorry I can’t have an opinion lol
Apparently
wise valley
Imagine trolling as a 3k feral and then seeing randoms stacking crit
heavy cairn
Eh I think I’m fair
You can def play around with stats though
More haste more vers more mastery
And if you played legion you’d understand that feral prio stats were diff in diff seasons so 🤷♂️
clear pulsar
safe heart
my toxic trait is playing feral despite everyone saying "nah feral can be good it just takes extra effort to do it right" then i complain that warriors moonwalk to 1800 by walking forward at a healer for 2.5 minutes straight
but honestly it just makes killing warrriors and paladins feel so much better hahha
heavy cairn
Yeah It sucks playing against them sometimes but nice when you can burst them down
Big bites
safe heart
yeah the second they dont have dbts and a healer theyre toast
ive been trying to go big brain and hard swap off the warrior when hes not in D stance and then hard swap back when he goes battle or whatever
back and forth, eventually the healer or the warrior shakes loose
heavy cairn
I don’t I’ve seen someone say dbts it took me a second lol
Yeah swapping around is good. If someone doesn’t have trinket nice opening for you too
safe heart
what do ppl normally call it
heavy cairn
Idk I call it parry but I was more so saying I’ve never seen anyone type it lol
safe heart
i played classic server and i call it retaliate in comms alot
oh lol, it doesnt click instantly for me even when i type it lol but its too long to type out
heavy cairn
I played holy priest/feral so fun
More fun than disc
I’m excited to see the rdru rise tho
They have a lot of nice abilities
safe heart
happy for rdruids but its gunna be so aids facing rdruid/warrior haha
heavy cairn
Oh yeah rdru/war is ALREADY good
Can’t wait to q more of it
I think my fav rdru comp tho is with a mage. Aff is fun too
Mage/druid cc is just fun to me especially when you do it really clean
I think as feral/priest you can purge a lot and create a lot of pressure
Prob still tough tho
indigo osprey
what soulbind ya'll high level rbg guardian druids run? Niya with burrs?
indigo osprey
ah yeah, i did see that, and just guessing burrs is the right talent
indigo osprey
might try 3 endurance conduits
IR/WHI/tough as bark. I dont think having the convoke one is that great for guardian when carrying
heavy cairn
Some play guardian to swap in boomkin and convoke. It’s probably just a map dependent thing idk
I agree though if you are playing FC doesn’t seem great. Some teams play a tank on like every map tho
drowsy sluice
what leggo do you run as guardian? beserk one?
i think i saw some people talking about barkskin one too?
surreal heron
Legacy > NOW
drowsy sluice
cool
viscid remnant
thyme do you still play wow
safe heart
you have to play just enough so you can make sure your shit talking is relevant
tardy hare
yes
limber bramble
some 1 know how good is covenent armor set compare to 197 honor gear?
is it worth farming so much honor?
safe heart
idk how much vers the covenant armor has on it but the vers is pretty important on honor gear, however, you gotta start somewhere
viscid remnant
Necro leather set has vers as the big stat on every piece
viscid remnant
Mix and match covenant gear with honor and conquest gear
tidal linden
@drowsy sluice checkout Murlok.io and you can see what the top players of every spec and bracket are using for all the stuff...talents, legendaries, soulbinds, conduits, etc
turbid ravine
Can you use barkskin legendary regardless of spec?
forest kite
natural's order will? yes
drowsy sluice
<@221072262839664652> checkout Murlok.io and you can see what the top players of...
d'oh! Thank you. totally spaced on this site existing. I take one week off and become a smooth brain
honest mesa
wise valley
Isn't rdru getting big flex in patch?
Finna dual box and heal myself
Rdru be tip top in no time
It's like lock
safe heart
buff feral
wise valley
I called warlock being good back in december
But thats typical always shit on release until big patch
End of expac they basically raid bosses
edgy shale
same with spriest but they just been busty whole time
spreist does do much dam while being so tanky
heavy cairn
@vestal citrus have you ever thought about going resto? At least you can stay on druid and flex your title. Or just not into healing?
wise valley
@fickle garnet i cant wait eithet
I keep thinking "what if we were even stronger"
Blizzard did too apparently
fickle garnet
"we don't want to nerf the legendary to upset people who spent ash on it so we've decided to nerf all warriors by -300%", hopefully
wise valley
Yeah I'm leveling a monk rn strictly healing bgs to get a hang of it
I hate being on the wrong end of the axe 
wanton nova
First Strike not working on pvp?
frail ember
Exploiter? Source?
wise valley
source?
source?
bro its called patch notes in the bnet client
or the site dedicated to giving you information in a hard to read and troublesome format, wowhead
tough basin
sleepers>barskin legendary?
frail ember
or the site dedicated to giving you information in a hard to read and troublesom...
You realise that post was made after I asked right?
wise valley
How did guilty see it
edgy shale
hes wowhead insier
tough basin
what would you recommend? I feel sleepers would be best for base maps while bark would be best for fc
ahhh makes sense
coming from feral im behind quite a bit of SA so need to prioritize, currently sitting at roughly 1k
if that's the case ill prob prio sleepers then
Oh, i didn;t realize fc debuffs were getting increased damage/reduced healing
ty for info
pallid coral
@wise valley https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/commit/1762d59c636b8c14b9020932f59444ace83926f1
tepid spoke
edgy shale
uh oh, i made a mistake. I said mage was harder to play than rogue and now they are frothing at the mouth screaming at me
in rogue pvp channel
tiny oar
Lol
green valve
But its not like mage is hard either
edgy shale
combusting and pressing 2 buttons isn't hard, but being able to kite while doing dam and ccing is not something most mages can do
and its wat u need to do to be even a half mediocre mage
green valve
True but at least mage has the tools
But im also biased after playing affi into double mele all season
Literally tearing my hair out vs ww warr
edgy shale
mage is definitely busted and i hate them, but its disgusting the diff between a bad / good mage
safe heart
you can fireblast while ur casting pyroblast if you wanted to
jade flint
Soooo les talk more about feral lego/covy combo ideas for high-ish rated pvp. i got 7k ash saved and already built EyeofSym and Circle but thinking of a Draught+Necro build or kyrian bloodtalons build
safe heart
gotta go curio
frenzybrand if your tinfoiling
and obv you gotta get NOW if you dont ahve that already
jade flint
kyrian+B-talons+curio
safe heart
kyrian bt does sound pretty sick tho
i really wanted to go curio when sl was dropping but sym is pretty reliable
im scared ill drag out my burst windows without it
stray sigil
bt curio def goated
sinful canyon
theres no way to make it so that your focus frame/target frame are in a different spot only in arena right
oooooh
i think i can do this with moveanything
there is hope
edgy shale
bt curio def goated
which is why u dun even USE it anymore?
jagged kiln
would it be worth swapping a 213 ilvl non pvp for a 207 pvp gear?
stray sigil
@edgy shale i did q 3s this week and played it like every game
edgy shale
LIAR
jade flint
trying btalon+kyrian right now but i dont think i can live without feralfrenzy i might go cray
edgy shale
1 good thing about the bt+draught build I tried is that ur rip actually crushes the rogue shield
way harder for them to get restealths fr
and no rogues are kyrian anymore so
safe heart
blah i need one win before i got to bed to get a 213 item tomorrow
any glads wanna come lock it in for me
i tried to yolo with a random warrior and he didnt auto win the game for us
so now i need 2 wins
safe heart
alliance?
sinful canyon
horde
do you guys run a weakaura or anything to keep track of clearcast procs or just see them on ur bars
harsh surge
i 👁️ 👁️ them
lime light
sinful canyon
im trying to centralize info as much as possible rn so i dont have to look around so much
safe heart
i just see them glow on my bar personally
sinful canyon
yeah thats what i was comfortable with in pve
sinful canyon
but im too busy struggling to keep up with all the important info in pvp
sinful canyon
🙂
bitter harness
edgy shale
im gonna find u on the ladder and ur gonna die in the first maim to frenzyband damage. then ur gonna craft it and understand
stray sigil
safe heart
Mom and dad please don't fight
edgy shale
frenzyband is gonna elevate my gameplay to never before seen heights
bitter harness
junior plover
junior plover
It is but most other matchups are fun tbh
edgy shale
wat other matchups?
war is whole aldder
but its just less annoying in 3s cuz u can deal w ith them slightly less
harsh surge
i dont deal with them at all
just throw roots on them every now and then
or fake cast a clone
junior plover
Warr is like 15-20% of ladder 2.1+
Which is a lot
But that's still 80% enjoyable games
Add the fact that rogue mage is popular and super fun to play into
edgy shale
wait i think its morest than that
turbid ravine
Is the effect from circle of life and death similar to haste, or does it just makes your dots/hots shorter in duration and stronger ticks?
junior plover
Nah it never even reached 20% iirc
lapis mica
yooooo 2s inflation incoming hype
junior plover
Warrior unbuffed
Palas nerfed
WWs nerfed
And inflation?
Today's been a good day
Where the fuck warrior nerfs at tho
lapis mica
Condemn nerf
turbid ravine
Where did you read that there will be rating inflation?
junior plover
Where did you read that there will be rating inflation?
lapis mica
wowhead tooltip <:tettleslul:541422589524836352>
Isnt that a holdover from a deleted anima power from early torgh
junior plover
Maybe
seems like they linked the wrong tooltip
but it is pretty funny considering what Ret was doing all expansion long
lapis mica
No lie
My poor rsham hit a ret wall
If a ret ever reached him ever he just exploded
junior plover
turbid ravine
Does circle of life and death lego make your hots/dots shorter?
junior plover
Divine Toll is the best spell in the game
60% chance to do nothing
40% chance to do 30k
Thanks Blizz, very cool
junior plover
Does circle of life and death lego make your hots/dots shorter?
I think you'd best ask at #feral since thats their bis pve leggo
they probably know technicalities
lapis mica
40% chance to do 30k
Throw that on top of TV lottery
edgy shale
cuz visio nof pe rfection was so epic
lapis mica
Divine purpose and a conduit to get a chance to get a 30% extra spender
Big lotto
Plus dt conduit
junior plover
Now what im curious about
DT Judgement was already nerfed by 25% in pvp
is it 33% now or is it
25 + 33
lapis mica
Initial hit is bigger to all targets, conduit extras are net neutral
turbid ravine
I wonder if necrolord + circle could be a thing for Feral frenzy bursts? My Feral frenzy dot hits for 10k noncrit with Tiger's Fury up (ilvl 204). I imagine you could reach something like 20k dmg in 4.5 s with necro+circle
junior plover
Sorry
I'm dumb
it's the other way around
Yeah people already ran some necro cats in 9.0
namely Tony in AWC
but it was BT circle
to oom opponents
i havent seen any FF necros be successful yet
turbid ravine
Not sure what you mean by other way around
Feral frenzy should not affect circle, circle should affect feral frenzy
edgy shale
turbid ravine
unless if circle only works on spells
edgy shale
junior plover
wat is dis
edgy shale
convoke u simple kyrian noob
junior plover
Feral frenzy should not affect circle, circle should affect feral frenzy
Draught doesnt affect FF
but circle does
I was thinking the other way around
edgy shale
it wuz 3s
junior plover
edgy shale
agaion the power of crit
junior plover
^ imagine spending so much stat budget to get 0 extra damage
aaaand my tettles is banned
edgy shale
the reason i hvae so much crit is cuz my pvp gear is socketd with crit cuz its also my pve gear some of it
loud wedge
guys - when a necro rogue dies and he uses the fatal damage sheild (Forgeborne Reveries), he cant die if he vanishes?
i dont get how this spell works
junior plover
I think theres a bug with that shield in general
if a shaman uses Fleshcraft while in it
they can reincarnate
or at least could, maybe it's patched
loud wedge
but i got a rogue to pop the sheild - he vanished, and didnt die?
loud wedge
because its intended to just kill you no matter what in 10 seconds right
junior plover
yepp
loud wedge
one more question - a rogue bomb capping a node
u can sit it out right?
moonfire when it goes away
or should u never risk it
lime light
Yup
loud wedge
you sat it out?
cinder saddle
which lego do you like for the big burst daddy patron
civic stratus
Uhhh... Any point in saving CQ-points or will they be reset tomorrow? Not sure if I just wanna grab some stuff on the druid or not.
spare bison
Is necro a viable choice for feral pvp with the changes in 9.0.5?
edgy shale
evrything but venthyr is a fine choice
junior plover
over this
I would
That's just too many stats to pass up imo
The stamina diff will mostly make up for the vers and you'll get a shit tone of dps
junior plover
Uhhh... Any point in saving CQ-points or will they be reset tomorrow? Not sure i...
The season is not ending tomorrow
It's ending in 2/3 months or more
civic stratus
Ah yes, that's how it work. Thanks
junior plover
bitter harness
IM SORRY
edgy shale
its my understanding that conquest is disappearing tomorrow. so spend all that u can asap.
junior plover
You are forgiven
edgy shale
loud wedge
season end tomorrow! i need to push rating asap
bitter harness
edgy shale
wat is even the news
rigid edge
Whats the best 2s partner for a boomy ?
junior plover
HOW DO YOU LOOOSEEEE
junior plover
wat is even the news
the unbuff
junior plover
Whats the best 2s partner for a boomy ?
Shadow Priest probably
but if you prefer healers holy priest & holy pala are both nice
edgy shale
they were psychopaths if they thought that was gonna go thru in pvp
sullen cloud
My friend is a warrior and he defends every single thing about them. It’s kinda funny.
split timber
Well home instincts, works also in caster and cat form? So bear rejuvenation outside bear form.
queen holly
junior plover
Well home instincts, works also in caster and cat form? So bear rejuvenation out...
Yep its absurdly overpowered
compared to other conduits
split timber
Wow
bitter harness
is it me or does it cancel if you swap forms?
junior plover
I'd argue all day that it's fine
Yeah feral is underpowered 
It doesnt im pretty sure
split timber
Feels weird to see my cat doing rejuv
junior plover
Maybe if you go out of bear
bitter harness
I'll go test
bitter harness
I have a feeling they coded it to be form change == cancel on the old frenzied regen
and this is the same buff ID
I'll go test
bitter harness
I was in cat form - it procced - swapped out of cat form and it was gone
junior plover
oh no
bitter harness
I wonder if it happens if you go caster->bear too
that'd be a bit backwards imo
spaghetti code
(then again, we should just be happy that an insane guardian conduit works for other specs too)
junior plover
that'd be a bit backwards imo
Would be surprised if it doesnt
bitter harness
it doesn't cancel if you go caster -> bear
junior plover
lol
What about cat -> bear
Seems like it just checks for
if form swapped (form != bear)
bitter harness
cat -> bear doesnt cancel either
bitter harness
You might be doing it too quick
story of my life
clear pulsar
F
junior plover
this just procd on my priest
bro i didnt even do legion intro
and i dont have the appearance
bitter harness
obtuse ice
😱
clear pulsar
Helm is just hitting max lvl
pine hatch
so my fair friends - what are your thoughts on necrolord feral? has anyone tried before buffs?
junior plover
Helm is just hitting max lvl
I guess 45 lvl now
junior plover
so my fair friends - what are your thoughts on necrolord feral? has anyone tried...
Tony played it with mixed success up to (and including) top 8 AWC
clear pulsar
so my fair friends - what are your thoughts on necrolord feral? has anyone tried...
It's aight, nothing spectacular but playable
pine hatch
as jungle cleave, then?
junior plover
Yep
clear pulsar
If you're inclined to be necro, it's a decent alternative
pine hatch
yeah
clear pulsar
Definitely better than venthyr
pine hatch
im considering switching from fae cause i dabble in resto a bit as well
pine hatch
hmmm
junior plover
But yeah if you wanna play resto and feral
I'd go necro
resto is ridiculously bad without necro
junior plover
mb
pine hatch
yeah ok edit
junior plover
lol
pine hatch
😄
yeah honestly im feeling that
im not a good player by any measure and having trouble fitting convoke into resto play in pvp
clear pulsar
Necro is so impactful for st healing as resto
pine hatch
could the added pressure with the conduit be valuable also for feral?
that and circle
pine hatch
yeah sorry valuable is vague as fuck
clear pulsar
Necro's aight for feral bro, it's not better than kyrian or night fae, but I think it's fair to say necro feral is a smaller downgrade than night fae resto
For arena anyway
pine hatch
superb
clear pulsar
You can watch tony vods
pine hatch
great advice
clear pulsar
He played it a bit in tourney
cold linden
Does anyone have any comp tips for boomy spriest in 2v2? Basic opener/script? Ive looked at pins and unless I'm blind I'm not seeing anything
junior plover
Heres the vod
he also played it in AWC 4 top8
but lost
I really think FLP wouldve won in winners if their feral was BT circle necro 
every game was big balls dampen
weak hinge
how do you kill with BT circle necro tho
clear pulsar
Doing damage
The same way you kill with kyrian
I mean
It's same thing
Just damage
Necro's a bit more consistent
But 35% more dmg on FF is quite dece
weak hinge
But 35% more dmg on FF is quite dece
how so?
weak hinge
how do you have FF and BT
clear pulsar
I am a 
weak hinge
(:
haughty compass
This season, just like every single other one is about doing as much dmg as possible and stopping as much dmg as possible.
twilit geyser
Does anyone know what would be the best legendary for RBG's?
weak hinge
@twilit geyser druid has 4 specs. could you be more specific?
twilit geyser
sorry haha. Balance. I keep forgetting this is a druid and not balance
weak hinge
are you kyrian or NF
clear pulsar
Dreambinder goat
weak hinge
for NF 100% BOAT for RBG. legit solo wins you fights sometimes. invaluable
rigid edge
Whats the best arena boomy legendary for Kyrian is it still BOAT ?
junior plover
But 35% more dmg on FF is quite dece
They play BT tho
ah
didnt scroll
yeah theyre zOOMERS
twilit geyser
are you kyrian or NF
Night Fae
weak hinge
boat
twilit geyser
huh. i wouldn't that thought that boat is still best in rgb. i thought the col might be better... well saves me to craft another legendary i suppose 😂
clear pulsar
Col?
viscid remnant
⛵
tidal meadow
Do you know any good pvp comunity to play ranked bg?
tawdry kiln
Question. as Boomy base sitting. is there a spell other than treenant we can use to hit a rogue trying to smoke bomb cap while they are inside their smoke?
tawdry kiln
I know you can wait for it to end at still hit before the cap finishes
clear pulsar
But no
tawdry kiln
I play with a rogue and he claims some druid keeps hitting him with a spell in his smoke bomb so we are trying to figure out which spell mainly
clear pulsar
Fury of elune
If you cast before smoke bomb
Spins as well
I mean it should be fairly simple eand straight forward to check what spell is hitting you tho
tawdry kiln
I figured it was fury but it has to be cast before smoke, got it
clear pulsar
Maybe shooting stars procs spin?
Zandalari racial if you're playing the bleed or bwonsamdi could as well
I know triggering undead racial dot used to spin when I played undead
I'm not sure if it still does, or if zandalari one would too
pine hatch
But 35% more dmg on FF is quite dece
yeah man the necro-boosted FF with circle seems like it would do a shitton of damage
i should try this
pine hatch
yeah meant the burstiness
clear pulsar
The worst thing about necro is Emeni sucks dick for druid
Since it's only 4 seconds duration
It'd be much better if it was 10s duration on a 1 min icd like Pelagos mastery buff
clear pulsar
Now what about
pine hatch
wtf 4 sec
clear pulsar
45% dmg for Sunfire, Moonfire, Stellar Flare, Fury of Elune, and root dot pvp talent
Bro just think about it @vestal citrus
45% dmg from AS, 33% dmg from Circle
tiny oar
chrome panther
It works pre gud if you can find an aff-lock willing to play the comp
even starfall fucking slaps with that setup
wise valley
boomy dots trash
tiny oar
I dont think I saw a single aff lock last ssn tbh
wise valley
Why play boomy aff when u can play spriest aff
tiny oar
All destros with a couple demonologys
wise valley
I think 50% of wows population wasndestro in s4 bfa
tiny oar
Sounds about rite
bitter harness
achievements are so broken lol
snow ore
I'm almost afraid to ask, I see resources in the pins for everything but Guardian PvP. I was hoping to do some bear PvP on the side 
junior plover
Guardian is played exclusively in RBG as flag carry/base sitter
You want the Sleeper legendary to be able to become CC immune
blissful belfry
Only bear pvp content i seen is Fuji's video (or was it fuji?) afking for 10 min near a base in stealth
foggy ravine
just go ninja bases as guardian
pop sleeper and rogues will be confused by not being able to spin you with sap
stray sigil
@blissful belfry that was @tardy hare
blissful belfry
ahhh
blissful belfry
BiS content anyhow
junior plover
I was thinking of boosting some friend's alts in rbg and I thought I would need to be owl
I forgot about bear's existence
my soul is saved
foggy ravine
the only map guardian is bad on really is probably minecarts tbh
blissful belfry
I gave up trying to push 2.4 this season. so i started playin with friends for fun. I just hadnt realized the ''fun'' i was talking about was going 0-12 and losing 300 rating
foggy ravine
or rather non-ideal
junior plover
I gave up trying to push 2.4 this season. so i started playin with friends for f...
thats been my experience too
but now with 2s inflation
i guess im gonna have to get 600 rating back
at least I'll get the hotter streak achiev
blissful belfry
hehe, i've got my hotter streak when i swapped away from my shit partner last time
foggy ravine
kyrian resto to 2.4k in 2s
snow ore
Would you still go HeartOfTheWild Moonkin Convoke or go full defensive with Resto affinity on base sitting maps? Or is it just personal preference. Sorry for scrub questions my only PvP experience is as Mistweaver 
junior plover
I'm 9/10 on hotter 😦
foggy ravine
I personally like balance affinity whenver I am forced into guardian
foggy ravine
solely for flap
junior plover
you can have a convoke with CC immunity
and you run that legendary anyway
but its mostly resto iirc
clear pulsar
Would you still go HeartOfTheWild Moonkin Convoke or go full defensive with Rest...
Resto affinity barely makes you any tankier
junior plover
clear pulsar
It's just good for vortex tbh
junior plover
BIG swiftmend
clear pulsar
Yseras gift isn't that sick bro
Yeah go out of bear for the big swiftmend
See how tanky you get
junior plover
foggy ravine
lol
clear pulsar
Typhoon also juice tho
blissful belfry
and you lose vortex for typhoon, not that bad
clear pulsar
Especially on WSG
foggy ravine
ya
clear pulsar
Stay on roof
junior plover
Oh yea you reminded me of one more thing
foggy ravine
even twin peaks
foggy ravine
I sit right around the corner of the door
I launch the first two idiots through that door into the flag rom
junior plover
wat
placid mirage
Dude is detached from reality
wise valley
Nice iam not here for a bit
dude how the fuck is it possible your english GETS WORSE
bitter harness
$nobully
last owlBOT
wise valley
i know him long enough to ask
wise valley
^
i watched tianton grow from euro ape to well spoken handsome man
then he changed pfp and started speaking slang
heavy cairn
Servers don’t come up until late today?
bitter harness
wdym theyre up
remote cave
Lies
wise valley
yeah xtra long today
lime light
Show some respect to the channel owner
blissful belfry
Yo, at which dampening % are you allowed to let your warrior die in 2s
rdruid war vs rsham afflock
blissful belfry
true
blissful belfry
2s games are looong man
sacred path
Started my necro re roll on my resto druid last night- gonna feel like it’s a a lot stronger than it is with the buffs hitting 😂
maiden wraith
Will necro cat for sure work in 9.0.5? Kinda scared of swapping covs cause I dont wanna grind the renown...
remote cave
Switched to Kyrian before this, the grind sucks
maiden wraith
yep ik, just want to make sure its not garbage so i dont have to swap back the next week
blissful belfry
you can either wait to see if its garbage to swap, or take a gamble
in any case, no matter the covenant you play, you are still feral. Some might be better, some might be worse, but i dont think it will make or break your games
sacred path
Were u trying 2 be night fae be4 this u poor child
Yeah it was okay like sometimes but not that great in arena lol
sacred path
Yeah idk swarm+bleeds sounds nasty
Sneak in a moon fire/sub fire and you’re a stealth affliction lock
Jk kinda but I thought bout feral necro now that I am one haha
Also that circle leggo.. those dots would hurt but I’m sure you could do much better
remote cave
Servers still fucked?
sacred path
For 3 more hours appx
remote cave
Hmm
loud wedge
Fuuuck they removed full moon from Guardian? Fml.. That was my go to play
surreal heron
none of the specs cast full moon in pvp anymore
loud wedge
Its live tomorrow.. Can still get some free rating
wise valley
none of the specs cast full moon in pvp anymore
4 loko time
surreal heron
weird
remote cave
Fuck guardian base sitters who pop full moon haha
surreal heron
not for long 🙂
wise valley
have they annoucned when tf they gonna make it easier to swap covs
blissful belfry
Just pre-grind your renown to 30+ in all 4 covenants. That way when you swap its quick
wise valley
if u swap back u get the renown back?
blissful belfry
yes
wise valley
oh n2b
blissful belfry
still needs you to actually spend the time to farm to 30+ in all covs
wise valley
fuck questing again for new cov tho
blissful belfry
rogue friend swapped for raid, he grinded his 30 renown back in 2 days to be raid ready
wise valley
not impressed with slands zones tbh
blissful belfry
i can only imagine the suffering
wise valley
bastion is boring
legion had the best zones
i miss legion
had motivationto play druid today. 6 hour maint
blissful belfry
wise valley
blissful belfry
i popped my teamviewer to go open chest and shits before raid. (from work)
forgot it would be a goddamn 6h
sacred path
My first real day off in a few weeks- so eager to grind my new cove back up 😂
wise valley
blissful belfry
sacred path
Did a few normal 5’s for the traitor quest and I already like swarm lol
wise valley
wise valley
havent done wq or torghast in like 3 weeks
sacred path
Ilol
I hopped on my 50 warrior and beat some 60 hunter in a duel after I tanked like 15 games. Felt nice 😂
lone finch
junior plover
Just dispell if you need to
dont if you dont
all cc is ocasionally worth dispelling
blissful belfry
If you play with coms, the only thing you'll ever hear is angry screams sayin ''DISPELLLLLLL'' for evey single dispellable cc they receive
your warrior chases behind a pillar and gets HoJ and bursted down? ''DISPELLLL MEEEEEE''
fickle garnet
I climbed to 2.1k because of stupid warriors who'd do that
We'd just wait for them to heroic leap and charge us behind the pillar then nuke
The worst part is that it only worked 60% of the time because their kit is absurd and it's hard to punish them for their stupidity
celest trellis
hey, can anyone tell me, what enrage effects i can dispel with soothe in pvp situations? besides warriors berserker rage
fickle garnet
It doesn't work on tilting teammates.
junior plover
I climbed to 2.1k because of stupid warriors who'd do that
80% of games at 2.3k mmr in 2s
look like that
seriously i wouldnt even be mad if rogues were as op as warriors are right now
but these players are so bad
its disgusting
and they keep climbing regardless
fickle garnet
There's a few monks that do that too
fickle garnet
Me and my teammates in comms were like "what the fuck is this" when the monk rolled to us instead of running in mounted
junior plover
because of the bugs they could exploit
fickle garnet
We got them to like 1% before they got karma off
We still won but holy fuck
and these are the people in lfg going "1200 cr glad xp on main"
junior plover
Wait
undeads still dont have heritage armor?
Why did so many races not get one
clear pulsar
Undead have no heritage
They literally cant reproduce
They should prob release human and undead heritage armor on same patch, and then undead is just same as human but dirty/torn
dusky escarp
could guardian druid in moonkin for convoke a full moon before today?
dusky escarp
right when the nerf happend to pvp full moon that was only boomy but now its all?
surreal heron
yup
dusky escarp
cool ty
junior plover
They literally cant reproduce
Ok good point
junior plover
Servers up
NECRO DREAM LIVE
remote cave
Can't get into Sargeras though 😦
wise valley
@junior plover orcs and human wil be last to get heritage armor
which i found out
50 levels into my orc
cus they have sets in WOD for stormwind/org armor
i assume NE will have a sick set
and troll
junior plover
cus they have sets in WOD for stormwind/org armor
any race can wear those tho
no?
oh
I get you
Yeah it's probably gonna be a 9.1.5 feature or w/e
lapis blade
Which trinkets do you guys recommend for guardian pvp? I've got medallion and insignia of alacrity
clear pulsar
vagrant crane
As a boomie in rbgs, do u start starsurging when TC calls a target, or prio on dots/starfall?
vagrant crane
But I thought our main goal was battle of attrition as boomie, leave the kill targets to rest? Or am I mistaken?
undone spoke
nah you take your big bird wings and you slap the shit out of that EFC
eager inlet
is necrolord resto druid that cracked atm in pvp
clear pulsar
The patch literally went live 1h ago bro
eager inlet
u dont think ppl have been hoping into arenas in that 1h
native ingot
I'm soul ash capped right now, so I need to make another leggo. Right now I have BOAT and Dreambinder. Is it worth it to make Circle of Life and Death for pvp? Or are the ones I have good enough right now?
clear pulsar
I dont
teal hinge
Make the barksin one
clear pulsar
It's 3pm on a work day
Yeah ngl I dont get why people think Circle in particular is a good choice
Like
There are lots of leggos yeah? And it's normal for people to get curious if one or another is good
But it's always Circle that people ask about
teal hinge
Circle = big boom dots lol
shadow creek
Who else be excited for tomorrow's resto buffffffff
native ingot
Thanks for the input!
shadow creek
Cdew is playing resto right now
What you mean by cracked?