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thats all
What i figured out lately also is that
if you feral frenzy late
they might bleed out through die by the sword
so if you have energy you can bash -> bite -> build bite -> bite -> ff -> bite
and if he uses dbts before you FF then well good for you you get to go again very soon
ok so i feel like warrior and ww just fuck me
whenever i try to go head to head
and that is on fucking 1800
play around tf and thorns
other than that just throw on bleeds and wait for them to make mistakes
yes
but you can trade with warrior outside of avatar
Thoughts on Innate Resolve vs Born of the Wilds in FLP?
No
Kyrian
CLOWN

maybe i have an under appreciation for innate because in 2s with 20% dampen start it sucks ballz
Oh haha
Dreamweaver is the only nfae one where you pick like that endurance vs finesse
I think I'd run mine like you are
Tho I'd maybe run Kleia, isn't her heal pretty nice?
Valiant strikes
IDK pelagos mastery buff is really nuts
- its buffed on wednesday
or well
tweaked
double duration + orb extension halved
what's the pvp nerf for pelagos
ok 0 clue how it interacts

maybe you just get doubled duration from that
mastery for DAYS
Where did you see this change to pelagos trait
on ptr
its not in notes or anything but changes is there on ptr @stray sigil
does playing manual = superior human being in ur eyes el patron?
anyone know if chill streak counts as aoe spell for mark of the wild?
Can I wild charge mid convoke? Without canceling?
Yeah its very important vs ele
anyone had an issue with macro that uses trinket + convoke
instantlsy interrupting convoke?
Can't trinket during the channel, put it before the cast
Have I understood correctly that weapon damage doesn't matter much?
But abilities scale with attack power
doesn't attack power only come from Agility?
Main Hand weapon dmg matters, offhand is a stat stick
there is agility on weapons
just use highest ilvl MH you can, much more important things to worry about lol
Melee specs spells scale with weapon dps and attack power
All of them do @turbid ravine
You can find the formula somewhere on wowhead prob
Queued some flpriest
The cc dr was not a problem
Hovewer throughput was
It's alright but our warlock said it feels 1000x worse than with a pala
You have trinket first in the macro?
I've ran that for a long time without issues but I've heard something about certain trinkets bugging it out or w/e
@junior plover sure
I think there was like a stopcasting macro for convoke that fixed that
But it was for boomkins
Maybe someone here knows what it was
Try this
/use trinket
/stopcasting
/cast Convoke the Spirits```
Head is best slot for Symmetry right? Even if I already have a legendary circle in that spot? I know you can't equip two at a time yet/maybe ever lol just wondering if i should diversify at all.
#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/use [nochanneling:Convoke the Spirits] Sinful Gladiator's Badge of Ferocity
/cast [nochanneling:Convoke the Spirits] Convoke the Spirits
#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/stopmacro [channeling]
/use Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
/use 13
/use Soulletting Ruby
/cast Convoke the Spirits

GO FLP

cat
Will necrolords be big for feral next patch?
not rly
YES
Necro dream
But probably not good on ladder still
Very good into hpal melee cleaves tho
If FLP doesn't go further than Unitas


They got 3-0d last time vs hamsters and if they lose to them they gotta play method na
NotLikeThis
Sounds like a disaster
Yeah but
Half the playerbase is gone now
And hype is ded too
Circuit might get decent views when it begins
If they advertise it at all
Also imagine watching Ret Warrior vs Godcomp all day 
Maybe a dumb question and I think i know the answer but does the relentless trinket stack with the Toughness talent? Im assuming no
no
thanks
Mage is not the problem
Rpx also loses to warrior big time
Altho maybe you oom them??
With assa
Idk why they have jelly on their roster if there is not a single comp his hunter can play
Did he get to play even 1 game in top8?
If they had a warrior main they could run Warrior mage mirrors all day
LET JELLY PLAY MAN
@feral kettle https://www.twitch.tv/nahj/clip/PoorDirtyLardBuddhaBar-Q7paWG8dLjtsEODv?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
Hunter Rogue 
KEKW
idk why not play something based on shadowpriest
Lol what a meme. I've lfg 2s'd with him a couple times dudes a beast mode hunter
Ye but what
They have a rogue and a hunter

bicmex and zen got top 12 as surv holy thug
So is mage

Well
To any cloth
But this is Kyrian arms
Either way
@lime light called it as always
ye thats what iam talking about

I guess they're just oomin for days
What does jelly even play other than hunter
Surely something right
Or is he on bench just for meme value
arms
And exposure

Well if they liked his arms at all
It'd be picked ever
So it's not like he plays it really
If they'd rather play rogue into arms
thug is good, till u face a team, that is playing few comps
and can be easly countered
i would watch thug vs jungle games
Thug vs jungle sounds fun to watch
i think sp arms
biggest thug stomper
Have an insane roster
the whole team are just one tricks though
FMP RMP Jungle Thug
Said no one ever
I mean
all their comps are carried by wizk flexing
In terms of classes
Literally no rogue in the existence of world of warcraft arena ever alted Feral
Ignoring who pilots them
Wizk alted feral when they played jungle with jelly

And it only happened the one time jungle was legit the best comp in the game
Arguably
End of legion
Or uuuuh 8.0
Pre feral nerfs
Fuzzy times
I think it was 8.0
True I guess
Alright
look at the stacks
Production fucked as always
Covenant abilities still not on UI btw
Biggest feature of the xpac


They legit have no answer to arms on their roster
And they're still qualified for circuit

idk rps dont feel that bad, more likely it feels like they dont rly practise
Who's on unitas
I see
Poor guys going home today

FLP got giga unlucky with the bracket too
Not only did Unitas get the easy matchup
They get the hard one in losers cuz of it
Wish we got Unitas vs FLP
My heart still racing from that iceblock 
boomkin lets go 
rip


Imagine being owl
Feelsowlman
sadge
I trust
bro i want to see a 3 team with resto feral boomkin
and they won
Yeah Mindgames on whi
No intervene
Blind the healer

Surely Boomkin Arms is good into RMP
Legit unwinnable now
Because shadowy oneshot

Kapp
kek
Owl bro saving the feral dream

Inb4 stache stallions win the tourney and take #8 spot
Incap roar through shadowy
Ez clap
Why is boomkin so good
What
Great setup but wtf was that last bit of dmg

Oh god plz no
EZ
FUCKING
CLAP
LETS GO
Zev gaming warlord?
My god that game was
Literally perfection
That clone on low hp and then on the go they got perfect mortal coil into fear
NASTY
yo guys any idea if there is like a community somewhere where i can find long term pvp partners or rated bgs ?
Feral destro
ROASTY PLAYING THE AUTOSTUN
FAK
Sadge
kek
man the AOE stun shit
when you drop low
from kyrian
is so fucking aids
its actually so annoying to play against
Seems pretty cringe


Maybe they just need to go triple kyrian triple stun

Surely soul rot isn't actually any good for destro right?
No
Mortal coil
Fear
Aoe stun
And seduce if they want
Mage has nothin
PLZ
whats the point of removing that root
it was broken whole bfa, no one touiched it
and randomly they removed it in sl
So it's not broken again i guess
it would be fine
No
Pls dont talking
How are you complaining about them removing destro root lmao
Hello?
Are you in a parallel universe?
cuz its better to make them sqishy, and able to kite
instead of tower
that stand in the middle
No it's not, they're a destro lock the fuck you mean able to kite
WARLOCK
WARLOCK =/= able to kite
It shouldn't be
thats how its gonna be soonish, starting with the demon armor buff
locks were always able to kite
before the game
became shit
fiesta
You're fried in the head
???
are you on drugs
or have you played a different game to everyone else
for the last decade
:(
both clueless
Laughs in affli leggo
warlocks litterally allwats been the tanky immobile caster
Combust btw
It was exciting for sure
Last game today

what pvp talents do yall use when flag carrying as bear?
demo roar and the stun reduce seem pretty obvious
been sitting this flag for 10 min with no one in sight
anyone got some good feral streamer recommendations?
#pins
Shit's unbearable bro
why would he play seed anyways
It was like 0.1s
Maybe I'm monki
they did kill the seed but that shit seem so useless
They seed sacd like 3 times
In the first series
And won 1 game off it
Nvm
They didn't
But close
vs what comps
Mage warr
was it no dampening games or seomthing
It just happened to come up
I suppose
Or they can greed the sac
Thanks to it
And only use it if he dies
Haven't played my druid in a week
So u can greed it
Feels good man
greed what
Maybe he lives
? ? ?
U know
Maybe he lives without sac
So u only use it if he doesn't
Niya is poop anyway for destro so thats better than nothin
Ye maybe actually
Seed is ass but the slow after fears is nice
Shuts
3% dr 

Fair
You can never repentance the pala with a mage
Idk why they don't just play blinding light
literally everything adds up
It's not useless they'd have to trade so many cds on nozom so much if he didn't play it
He's constantly hovering around 30%
If you disregard seed
Dreamweaver is still the exact same as Niya
Except haste instead of mastery
EZ
WAT
Thank god
Oh yeah the haste is gigantic too
Totally forgot because feral

Ron paul pre sacs
My boi
Wtf is he talking about
That's straight up not true
Both Niya and Dreamweaver give 2 potencies, 1 endurance, 1 finesse. You can say seed is useless but so is niya's poison. At that point then it becomes 200 mastery vs 12% haste on using Soul Rot, and Run Without Tiring vs Soothing Voice.
He's literally
Wrong
????
If u rez the seed is gone
U don't die
This guy with monki brain takes
True
True
@junior plover thats not true by the way
seed is still present for a few seconds
after you have rezzed
and if you kill seed while the person is alive
they die even after rez
anybody knows why sometimes my Rake doesn't pounce the target while im stealthed?
im definitely stealthed and sometimes it just dots him
any chance i auto attack so it takes me out of stealth?
shouldnt be doing that
are you sure there arent any dots that could break your stealth
or anything that could break your stealth while close to target
why does intervene exist

sadge
how they would win tbf
Ok I'm the clown as always
warlock is a bad mage feral is worse than warrior

Seriously if Zev was necro
I think they win every time
Imagine the Mana diff
???
Brain would be at 0 when ron paul I'd at 30
Not really
Well
OTK lost
In winners
Right?
I skipped last game
So not sure
And Unitas won
So this is do or die
For FLP

Yeah 3/2
RMP
Beat boomer warrior
Holy RMP too
Holy priest
And rogue played the oneshot build
All kind of weird
oh dear
true
being able to sac it is so stupid
only way i can see leaving seed being remotely ok is if friendly's couldn't target it at all
I don't think cheat death (an effect that exists for classes) being in a soulbind is particularly more problematic than the aoe stun proc from kyrian
they had every cd up


clamps
old man ron cant keep up ig
sephuz and orc
its fine real ferals are in eu anyways
only feral that matters
you'd think after the first one...
Thyme manually deleting your tettles'
idek who you are
good good

As a new druid player i was wondering how come some people stack mastery (often night fae players) as moonkin, while others stack haste? Is there a recommended way to go, and does it differ depending on covenant?
Mastery - more spell damage - more convoke damage
Haste doesn't scale convoke
Haste is good for cyclone though
i know u guys said that u dont cast starfall in rbgs
but yesterday
i fought a 2 boomy 1 lock team that had massive rot damage
at 2.4k mmr

I mean
literally what u can do is like
Sounds like a decent plan
have a warrior sharpen and stun
and u blow 3-4 surges into it
and kill people
u dont just go for oom
we didnt know what to do we just lost to rot
what map was it
u guys were losing nodes or something ?
i mean if all they do is dot
and we just lost teamfight then lost control of mid
Tbh if you face an issue like this
ur healers should be able to peel out
Just split up
and drink
Stop teamfighting mid
but if they are going for oom shit
just win the nodes
and like spin mid
like they are
ya sounds like a plan for next time
rot is awful atm i think
u dont bring a lock for rot
just for the slow
and like boomy cranks with convoke or big surges on a target
I mean I could imagine it working just because it's different af
how do u lose
as ret or arms
how
i still dont understand
how can u possibly lose
get gud idiot ruski
Yo unitas
Playing like champs
What the fuck
????
Bro
How good is RMP

Just don't pick warrior
Ez clap
Unitas prob just all took a trip to the US to play at low latency
Now they showing their damage windows are TIGHT
Fucking monk in 9.0

mes can play warrior
Destro definitely flops to wwdk
So does RMP

No that's every healing surge the enemy shaman casts vs me
its only resto mastery
The target must be low

Haha
So I'm the guy last week telling you I'm stuck as Rdruid trying to climb
and then I crafted 190ilvl boomy legendary, and wow
I cannot believe how EASY it is
This is what playing a meta class feels like?? absolutely dumb
And from 😛
cant break into 2.4k
Ya idk at low to mid cr resto druid just does basically nothing
The most useful thing they can do is use feral abilities kekw
Yeah, that’s the reason I’ve effectively completely dropped druid. Pala is just so much better
I mean there are some glad resto druid but they must be galaxy brain or smth
yeh, I'm not that high lol. I want to get 1.8k for gear upgrade so boomy is going to do it. currently 5-1 atm, 1500 start
Yeah boomy at 1.5 to 1.8k is basically just initializing blasters
1750 you might have to start trying to do like a small setup and not just convoke off the rip
Yeah I can imagine under 1.8k you can win half the games by convoking in the opener
But even like a basic setup like cc dude with interrupt into open convoke from stealth will usually get 1-2 trinkets and major defensives
TBH, I havn't been relying too much
6-1, the buff really gives a ncie boost to the destro lock too
Currently just destro / me / disc
Just have destro fear someone with an interrupt and then convoke the other person out of stealth
With good positioning you can get a lot of kills in the first 15 seconds of the game
Yeah
You can just macro incarn trinket convoke
Incarn shifts u into boomie
From stealth
Disc + 2 melee is my fave comp to face
Best dps partners for 3s with a boomie? Climbing from 1700-2100.
Well just got beat by a 2 glads in 1600 xD
I never notice tbh I just win some lose some
aaaand welcome to LFG, one loss means the healer quits
Though I do wonder, for destro wuoldnt it be better if I went feral?
Arms
But Mage, Spriest, Ele all work
WW too
Best 3s partner dps = arms at all cr kekw
Kinda real
is there a root beam macro?
or do i cast root > straight into beam as soon as roots land
rude
without an hpal, yes very kickable
🙂
unluck
wtf legit my chrome crashing
chrome
wtf is that
@clear pulsar y but kick was on cd
ur el patron. u do what u want
i just
did a rbg with my alt druid
at low mmr
i just followed the dh tank on wsg 24/7
no one was helping him
and i spam root cyclones inca roars bashes
we won cuz he couldnt get a flag
lmfao

Rogue just one shot me at 2k rating in 2s
Literally 0sec death
He pressed 1 button
I'm full 226
were u in bear form
No
thats it then
Shadowstrike meme build
If I were bear he would just one shot my priest, the fuck does it matter
Didn't even stun
Just pressed shadowstrike dead
r u playing on PTR? cuz rogue is gonna be able to 1 shot in 2 gcd next patch with flag
ya esp. rogue but its gonna be a messy few days until it happens lol
what are they gonna do to rogues
woa
sin is getting enormously buffed

Guys Spriest speaks to my soul
people who play rogue dont even know what the term non viable even means tho
dots do damage on spriest toh
dude last night i had a carry that didnt go well
had me worried for a sec that i lost the magik
but nvm that i am back
i was playing witha rogue friend thats fairly new to the game on my alt druid at like 1400 mmr last night
and got a game against a glad feral
feral/disc
i died and we ofc lost but my friend tried to 1v2 em and when the game ended the feral whispered him "dont ever waste my time like that again"
No wonder new ppl get really intimidated by arenas
yo is pally the meta healer in kitty cleave
900 games almost as resto.. can’t get back to 1600 again lol 😒😞
I see people with like 100 games at 2k+.. idk how I’m so bad 😂
ezclap
rdruid+warrior is probably the easiest 2s comp to play. I mean u dont even need to do awesome CC rotations or anything
Best cov for guard/boom for rbgs?
Soulshape is great for mobility. Convoke is great for Boomie. But I’m no pro...
I have a 225 BoAT, I will be able to get T4 BoAT next week but I could also get NOW or Sleeper. Should I dump the Soul Ash into the T4 or get one of the guardian leggos for flag running/base sitting?
I’ve had good experience with NOW. Lots of healing
Admittedly I’m at 1400 cr so not sure if that influences it
for guardian it's Legacy>NOW
I’ve heard you swap between the two depending on the map
you can swap out of combat, so when incarn is on cd you'd use NOW
Reminder: Focused Assault and Brutal Assault now increase damage taken by 10% per stack and reduces healing received by 5% per stack in Warsong Gulch, Twin Peaks, and Eye of the Storm.
shit is changing
they gave it MS? 
was just funny to beat that comp in 12 seconds lol
yo on feral what do you guys look at for clearcast procs
in pve i just have a weakaura that makes my energy bar glow but im curious where other people look. just at your icons?
trying to make it so i dont have to be looking in as many places to help me focus on tracking important shit
Hard to say, if i faced ele sp i would go sp, cuz their armor is low, and it does something when u stóp their casts
Also if u maim/Bash they cant swap
5Hhead
Overall vs jungle ele seems more tanky
But vs magic dmg i think sp is more tanky
Ele Has to kite on dog from/build playing vs Real melee cleaves
how do you track clearcast mr patron
TANKIERst casters man
Yo guys when do you use convoke in a rated bg scenario? Beeing a new boomy. I started bgs yesterday and I've found out that the only time I can use convoke is when some enemies are over extending and are also targeting other members. Any tips you can have for me, so i can become a more exceptional boomy?
actually erl patron..lock might be the tankierst caster against other casters
idk
wat do u rthink

Any super easy guide for start healing in bgs and not in arenas? I guess bear affinity is the survivavility and easier to play
Yea. First tip dont rely on convoke
Convoke in over extenders is ideal too it means all the damage goes into them rather than split across the team
Yeah @queen copper , I'm at 200 ilvl.. So the only real damage of mine comes mostly from convoke, the only time I can kill 2 to 3 people is at that time, otherwise its stale.. And I'm just finding myself trying to cc or idk distract, but its not helping much, the only time I manage to get convoke off is the time we win the battle
Build your ap, cc with your team mate and surge into kill target. Things should die if coordinated
You don’t need to kill 3 people.
Think its ye, boomy or sp
Lock not sure, maybe too
Sp needs something that hits them from melee
For dmg reduction
So lock pet
Or earthen ele
@lime light could I ask you how you target in arena? Trying to see different styles with arena123 vs focus etc
scroll up, press scroll, scroll down - targeting
with shift focus
cyclone 123
kick 123
cyclone kick bash maim with focus
tab for players only
hibernate for pets only, hibernate for specifc arena
root focus
i have corsair scim, but too lazy to set it up yet
thats the UI
I'm normal mouse gamer so trying to make the most of my binds
Is there a way to have a ui just for pvp?
Sorry not ui
Binds
For example, I use scroll up and down for closest and prev target
In pve
I wonder if I can overwrite somehow in pvp
there is an addon that is changing this
depends on pve/pvp combat
so maybe it can change the thing u need
but i dont remember the name of it
Mmmm I'll take a look tmrw ty
Just the enemy player version is gonna be so much nicer








