pvp

[chrome panther]

sucks then

[lime light]

u can earn renown by doing pvp

not too many, but a little something

[shadow creek]

fair enough

any of you guys climbed to 2k+ with rdruid yet?

[chrome panther]

nah i dont hate myself

play balance, find an ele sham, enjoy life.

[lime light]

rdru is fine

[shadow creek]

Yeh, I've started to enjoy it alot more once I got 210ilvl

[lime light]

u mostly wanna team up with casters this ssn

[shadow creek]

I'm 210 atm FYI, I should've mentioned that

[lime light]

and look for the drink on cd

[shadow creek]

Main is a lock 🙂

[lime light]

👉🏿 🚪

immediately

[shadow creek]

.. Well I have 4 druids 🙂

And classic'ing a druid atm

[chrome panther]

lol

4.3% of healers above 2200 are rdruids

they are not fine

[shadow creek]

Let's not get into that convo again

[lime light]

resto druid got used to being op faceroll, thats the only reason there isnt many rdrdus

🙂

[shadow creek]

Ive had it enough on lock forums

[chrome panther]

lol ok mate

[shadow creek]

I'm glad I returned back to Rdruid though, it's great fun.

[chrome panther]

over 80% of class representation is split between disc/hpal

absolute joke

[lime light]

u only prove my point

that disc and hpals players are just better in general

as players

[chrome panther]

lol

go play rdruid at 2400

then go play hpal at 2400

then come back and tell me which is harder

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/baited-toddler-come-here-gif-6131816

[cinder saddle]

patron senpai can you pls teach me the feral opener

i want to one shot cats no pun

[lime light]

rake rip ff bite

ded

ok?

tf meanwhile

and kyrian

[shadow creek]

aint it
Rake > Rip > TF > Feral frenzy > bite ?

[cinder saddle]

pls what about night bae

do you 5pt rip?

[lime light]

on cd

[blissful belfry]

Got 2.1 as rdruid on week 2 or 3 of the tier i think? but i swapped to boomy in pvp anyway

[lime light]

5 cp rip

only if u know, that u are not wanna kill anyone in next few sec

[shadow creek]

Fair enough. It's very tempting. Though I find it so boring NGL in comparison to destro lock lets say

[cinder saddle]

oh shite i had no idea

senpai i've been doing it wrong

[shadow creek]

Though Resto is getting a big ish buff next patch?

[blissful belfry]

yes, but so is necrolord

[chrome panther]

it doesn't solve the core issues of rdruid.

[blissful belfry]

necro rdruid are going to be even better than nf next patch

with rdruid being a bit better overall too

[shadow creek]

Does that mean you'll continue playing Boomy?

[chrome panther]

me? ofc. ele/boomy is too fun and healing this season is so fucking stressful i just can't be damned to bother

[shadow creek]

Have you tried playing Ele btw Varugh? It's very fun

[chrome panther]

feeling like your 1 missed GCD from losing every second of the match isn't my idea of a good time.

[blissful belfry]

I play boomy in all content all the time. I was only resto druid in arena cuz finding a decent healer is cancerous. Ima always be a boomy anyhow, but if resto druid get better i can see myself playing both

[chrome panther]

its an absolute blast when people let you lineup 5 GCDs

[blissful belfry]

The most fun i have in arenas is when i face another boomy in a convoke deathmatch. Makes me realize how goddamn uselessly bad most of them are

[chrome panther]

the key is to play with 2 shams and yourself

make them your skyfury/grounding sluts

[blissful belfry]

lol

skyfury doesnt stack, does it

[chrome panther]

nah but having 2 out, usually 1 behind a pillar, makes it pretty reliable.

[blissful belfry]

true

[chrome panther]

along with boat its pretty toxic

[blissful belfry]

who was it that told me the other day boomies were immune to repentance tho? I use to shift in cat / bear to dodge rep, but then i was like, oh rilly? then i learnt it was a lie

[tired path]

hey guys NF or kyrian for boomy pvp?

[blissful belfry]

both are good, if you ever plan to pve too, NF is best

[chrome panther]

if you pve at all play NF

[sacred path]

It’s lovely in torgast lol

[heady geode]

quick question, which is better for 2v2 atm, boomkin or feral?

ive seen ALOT of ferals on top lately

and less boomkins :S

[pallid vessel]

feral is heaps better in 2s

night fae boomkin specifically just cannot kill outside of a 2 or 3 minute window, 3 surges will never be enough

although statistically boomkin/hpal is the biggest counter to arms/hpal which is maybe the best 2s comp atm so theres something there maybe

[sly ermine]

Hi, does the legacy legendary remove any current slows as well? or just prevent future ones for the next 30sec?

[pallid vessel]

popping berserk gives you full immunity to any current or new crowd control for the whole duration

[sly ermine]

damn, might be cool to try Malorne's swiftness with that on fc maps

[pallid vessel]

i think you have to stay in bear form for it to work but im not 100% on that actually

[surreal heron]

you dont

that's why owlconvoke is so big for bear

you can legacy in bear, pop out to boomkin and blast full moons

[pallid vessel]

convoke doesnt full moon in pvp tho 🤔

[surreal heron]

for feral, guardian, and resto it does

they only changed it for balance

[pallid vessel]

wtf

that seems like an oversight

[surreal heron]

yup

[pallid vessel]

ive been memeycrafting a guardian/hpal 2s comp

that makes me think it would actually work

i havent tried it but it seems like it could work with sleeper and boomkin convoke

[surreal heron]

it's a bit more gimmicky in arena, but definitely can work

even without hpal you can bait interrupts before convokes

[pallid vessel]

its not like nf boomkin will ever kill or force CDs in 2s outside of convoke anyways lol

so being guardian just helps u get to the next convoke better

[haughty compass]

I made a Venthyr Druid for the ember court toy, and sleeper + incarn + frenzy is pretty crazy bear burst

[uneven plume]

If you’re trying to seriously do something as boomkin, is necro any good? Feel like the defensives are so huge

[junior plover]

That's how I do it at least

[blissful belfry]

no

[junior plover]

You can play deep root Boomkin or whatever that talent is called

But it's a meme

[misty quail]

Wait, that sounds stupidly strong. So if i chose boomkin aff as feral i can fullmoon AND bite?

[junior plover]

Well

In boomie form you just do a boomie convoke

[surreal heron]

if you go into owl form, yeah it'll have a chance to full moon

[junior plover]

But without mastery scaling

So worse

[naive plaza]

You have to be in Cat to bite. You have to be in Moonkin to Full Moon. So you won't see both in one Convoke cast.

[surreal heron]

yeah, i can't speak for how useful it is for feral

[junior plover]

But honestly the surprise factor alone might make boomie convoke a fun thing to mess with as Feral

[surreal heron]

probably still just as gimmicky

[misty quail]

Yeah but i could chose depending on the Situation

[junior plover]

Definitely gimmicky

The biggest issue is that you lose mighty bash and a good affinity

[sullen cloud]

So what's the best boomkin 2s setup? Is boomkin rogue any good?

[misty quail]

I dont want to change to necro for the dot buff since i live the mobility anf aesthetic from fae

[junior plover]

Boomie SPriest is probably the best one

Boomie Rogue is kinda gimmicky

But the rogue can smoke bomb the Convoke

[misty quail]

Isnt mighty bash in a different row?

[junior plover]

It's shared with HOTW

Which you wanna take probably

[misty quail]

Not Sure right now what to play, druid is still lvl 55 😅

[sullen cloud]

Does boom rogue do decent on ladder despite gimmick?
Is kyrian better done 2s then if you say night fae can only get cds with convoke?

My boomkin is like 38, trying to make my plans for 60

[junior plover]

I've only played it once or twice on high rating

And it was convoke both times, the nature of a rogue+dps comp is that you can force defensives without using convoke

But it's just a super frail comp and if you don't kill very early on

You're gonna get ran over

You can sorta play it like rogue/mage but boomie just doesn't have as much good CC to play with

[sullen cloud]

Yea thats what I was wondering. If it plays like rogue mage. Kidney into root beam into cyclone seems like a good cc chain no?

Then cyclone kill target to reset. Then stun into another cyclone on healer, convoke if you got trinket?

[junior plover]

Yeah the problem is just that you don't get to shimmer around casting cyclone

And you can't cyclone into cyclone perfectly

So the healer can sneak an instant cast

Also db/poly -> ring of frost is a really long cc that you don't have access to

But yeah you get root beam in exchange

It def could be good

Never felt threatened by it but boomie and rogue are both piss easy for feral so I can't speak for how good it is

[sullen cloud]

Gotcha. The not overlapping cyclones makes sense.

Yea feralas are tough to play against. I play mage poorly as my main.

I'm just trying to decide what covenant and legendary i want on boomkin and i was told here it depends on comp.

[sinful canyon]

Just time your clones faster than the health can press their key

Ez

[sullen cloud]

In LoL I believe that was called #korean advice

[remote cave]

Sorry for the dumb question, but Boomy best Pvp stats?

[blissful belfry]

vers - haste - mastery - crit.

[remote cave]

Thank you

[blissful belfry]

Some prefer mastery over haste fror bigger convoke. some prefer haste for faster clones and casts in general

[remote cave]

I'd prefer haste

Thank you

[winter wren]

niya or dreamweaver for feral pvp ?

[blissful belfry]

first pin has a feral pvp guide

in which you can find all info about covenant choice and soulbinds

tl'dr = niya

[winter wren]

sorry ill go look. thanks

[sacred path]

Tried boomie a few games down to 1350 now.😰

[blissful belfry]

what is your ilvl

[sacred path]

Lol you don’t wanna know 😂I’m so bad

[blissful belfry]

well, yes i wanna know. its normal to have low cr if your ilvl is low too

[sacred path]

210

[blissful belfry]

210 isnt high. but it should still allow you to push higher. whats your comp with boomy

[sacred path]

I was playing with some discpriest who’s about as bad/good as I am

Yeah I’d think I should be able to push 1600 and then upgrade into the midteeens and be fine on gear for the 1800 push. I’m just trash haha

[digital folio]

There's so much conflicting info for boomy pvp, and I dont feel like you can base it on top rated boomy equipped gear.

Rbg's it looks like kyrian + balance of all things is the way to go?

And necrolord is getting a boost this month, but I cant picture bringing a boomkin for rot in rbgs.

Or should I just run night fae and cheese to 1600 then worry about a 2nd legendary and covenant swap?

[tardy hare]

Kyrians mostly run dreambinder

Nf and kyrian both fine

Mostly NF+BOAT for RBGs tho

[zinc rock]

Is sleeper the legendary for RBGs ? As guardian ofc

[surreal heron]

yes

[blissful belfry]

I got myself a feral weapon in vault yesterday. Now i Guardian in rbg! Kinda nice sleeper is on boots like boat

*i can Guardian in RBG if we exclude the fact that i cant play guardian

[zinc rock]

Yea thats what Im thinking about

Ive been playing as boomie and my leggo is on boots

so Im thinking about crafting it on boots too for easier item management

UFR is bad for rbgs right?

[surreal heron]

it's not the best by anymeans, probably third or forth "best"

[tardy hare]

Dont worry

None of em really can

[blissful belfry]

nice

Although. I picture myself goin guardian and being sap-capped by a rogue

[zinc rock]

that "loss of control" from sleeper includes stuns?

[blissful belfry]

yes

[zinc rock]

or only slow, root, fear

[blissful belfry]

immune to all cc

[zinc rock]

damn thats really op then

[blissful belfry]

you press your ''i do what i want'' button

and you do what you want

[surreal heron]

even works outside of bear form

[zinc rock]

Im thinking about a warsong vs Guardian druid with sleeper and 2 hpals with ultimate sac lol

its like being a god

time to reroll my poor boomie to guardian

[lone zenith]

May I ask how does work conduit Well-honed instincts? When Im resto... Do I have to be in Bear form to trigger it? Does it put my frenzied regeneration on CD?

[blissful belfry]

doesnt put frenzy regen on cd. Can trigger in any form

the only detail you need to pay attention to is: If you shapeshift while the frenzied regen is rolling, it cancels it

[lone zenith]

Oh, thats pretty awesome then

[viscid remnant]

So can you

Immune to cc with legendary go moonkin convoke and cant get stopped?

Or need kick immunity from hpal

[blissful belfry]

need aura mastery

[surreal heron]

interrupts still go through without hpal, but plentyof casts to bait

[round geode]

Does powershift as feral sitll exist?

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar help me bro willy is convinced korayn > nyia

i dont know what to do

[wise valley]

@round geode nah

Not in the sense u are thinking

[bitter harness]

@tardy hare ok yes you were right hotmogu is ridiculous as boomy

[tired path]

kyrian vs nf for boomy? and why?

[digital folio]

What's your targeted pvp content @tired path? that will help them answer.

[fiery atlas]

Hey guys what armor piece should i craft sleeper on ? for guardian rbgs

[rugged marsh]

anyone got a decent rbg group pushing 1800?

[edgy shale]

i could actually use 1 of thoes for my alt. all the rbg gorups im in are like 2k+

[wise valley]

I'm working

Wya

[wise valley]

New me gotta get my head str8

Gonna be doing 75 hard

Nothing but gains pains and women calling my name @vestal citrus

[clear pulsar]

Bro willy is nfae surv idk what to say

[stray sigil]

keeps telling me the 10% inc dmg is better than the mastery from nyia

[edgy shale]

is survival wild spirits the same as the other wild spirits?

[lapis mica]

guys i hibernated a feral and it was amusing. that is all

[edgy shale]

we hate u

[sacred path]

lol I’m officially done with druid.. 800 games as resto and 1400. Kudos to any of you guys that have climbed

[pallid coral]

Zev top 6 again

[edgy shale]

wat cr is that

[clear pulsar]

Convoke does jack without niya + conflux tho

And then niya gives u insane dam next go

[edgy shale]

isnt that the team that's feral/destro or some shit? cuz I saw the miestro play against a feral/destro comp at like 3k mmr but maybe thast too low for top 6

[pallid coral]

no top 6 as in

awc

lmao

[edgy shale]

oh

[pallid coral]

but yes

zev is very high on the ladder

[clear pulsar]

Nice nice

[pallid coral]

it was 3.3 and rank 1 a week or two ago

tho i think he dropped down a bit now

[edgy shale]

it prob was them then

[pallid coral]

he's idiotferal/wodferal/insanity

[wise valley]

Nice the kickbotter

[clear pulsar]

Wait they arent top 6 yeg

Yet

[pallid coral]

he posted it in broadcast apparently

[clear pulsar]

On bracket at least theyre 1 series away

[stray sigil]

fuck zev

[pallid coral]

like 2m ago

[stray sigil]

he was toxic to my boy

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but hes toxic maybe jusg counting on it

[stray sigil]

he can go die in game

[pallid coral]

LMAO

[clear pulsar]

Tbf willy was toxic too

[pallid coral]

who'd he bully fuji

[edgy shale]

bro...u don't just go tell sum1 to die in gaem

[stray sigil]

no lol

[clear pulsar]

And wrong i mean

[stray sigil]

he whispered wilyl cuz he lsot in 2s

[wise valley]

Is he still on Arathor lmao

[stray sigil]

big iq

[clear pulsar]

Hunter rly is disgusting to fight as feral in 2s

[stray sigil]

willy wasnt craven

or mending

? ? ? ?

[pallid coral]

has NA realised that BM is op yet

shits cracked

[clear pulsar]

Wtf lol

Definitely was craven

No way bro

[stray sigil]

nop

he was neither

[edgy shale]

bm is a lot of consistent pressure or some shit idk

[stray sigil]

and lost

[clear pulsar]

Thats hilarious

[stray sigil]

and then zev qqd about getting his bleeds removed

willy was like

? ? ?

[edgy shale]

that conduit is dumb

or wahtever it is

[stray sigil]

zev is an idiot

[sinful canyon]

Bro bm sounds miserable to play into

[pallid coral]

it has insane unpeelable damage

[stray sigil]

looks fun

[edgy shale]

wat cov do they go

[pallid coral]

most of the hunters playing it on EU are still just kyrian

cause they play mm as well

but i think BM is supposed to go venthyr

[edgy shale]

i had no idea wat hunter covs even did besides kyrian/Nf so i read it, and that makes good sense for pvp

i wonder how much kill shot even hits for, prob a lot

[pallid coral]

played in rbgs with a bm hunter and he got a few big boys

his average was like 6-7k

but he had a few 10k and peaked 15k

I played some jungle with a wild spirits hunter at around like 2.4

and holy shit

it did fucking 0 damage

was when we'd have a go

kill someone

check wild spirits

and it was like 1-2k damage

[green valve]

Gotta be honest played a little warr boomie rsham comps fun as hell

[stray sigil]

ya willy keeps telling me wild spirits is insane

hes def a fuckign idiot

who knows whats up up there

[green valve]

Really funny into double mele with intervene -> convoke

They double kick into everytime

[clear pulsar]

Tbf @pallid coral zev didn't play any particularly good teams

[warm obsidian]

hey guys, when do you starsurge burst window vs get dots out and starfall?

i.e., lets say first teamfight on mine carts

in rbg?

[twilit siren]

someone here said there's a bug with convoke macro and trinket a week ago that stops convoke when on-use trinket is on cd? What do I need to add to the macro to prevent it from happening?

[clear pulsar]

GG up 1-0 on spacestation

As rmpal vs ret arms

[edgy shale]

thats ass rogue to you sir

i predicted this happening 3 years ago

is he using MA

[clear pulsar]

Nah I think he's the envenom dmg leggo

OTK beat C9 looks like

Why did gorecki leave spacestation bro wtf

@vestal citrus do you know?

Unitas beat graycen at least

Top 8 again

Always top 8 and top 8 only

Legendary consistency if you ask me

[stray sigil]

did the dogwater rmp

[edgy shale]

lol wtf he was using sephuz

[stray sigil]

make it to top 8 again

[edgy shale]

sephuz orc

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar

[edgy shale]

why did they make defensive leggos for non-tanks man WHY

gg won if that wat u mean

[stray sigil]

no the dogwater rmp from the other awc cup

that got 3-0d by otk

xiuni

[clear pulsar]

Fuji hates the rmp team cuz they have a woman playing

[stray sigil]

im not gonna say that its not a woman

but

[edgy shale]

oh, i thought u meant wiz was a doggie mage cuz he's an spriest player

[clear pulsar]

Nah you're acting like a clown fuji lol

There is no good reason to be like that

[edgy shale]

🤡

[stray sigil]

im not saying they are dogwater cuz shes a female or not

becasue they are

plain and simple

they somehow got to top6 last cup

and got clowned instatnly

[clear pulsar]

And no they lost to the move

The move complains they get dog brackets

When jelly's sitting at 2.4cr all season dragging them to seed #25 or some shit

Yo where do I grab merc mode thing for bgs?

These horde qs are dogshit

[edgy shale]

in ccorner

next to pvp venbfur

[clear pulsar]

Thank

Do I get a taste of shadowmeld again?

I need like 200 conq for int weapon for big m+ push

[pallid coral]

@clear pulsar kinda whack that method na and c9 have to play to make top 8

Insane games

[tiny oar]

What happen to gorecki I haven't watched his stream in a while

[clear pulsar]

I meeean method na shouldnt have lost to rudarz

[clear pulsar]

No idea he hasnt streamed in a long time, and didn't play the tourney this week

SSG got ticki instead

[tiny oar]

Wtf weird

[wary breach]

can you not convoke someone who is rooted by you?

[supple path]

no, breakable CC is not targeted by convoke

[wary breach]

hm i swear there are times when i get root beamed by a boomie and they convoke i still end up getting hit

unless the root wore off and im not realizin git

[surreal heron]

$starfall

[last owl]

Starfall will not hits targets that are CC'd. (exception: Stuns)

[safe heart]

🙂

[stray sigil]

yup yup

[edgy shale]

u can't spend that amount of soul ash willy nilly with frenzyband becoming bis leggo

[safe heart]

well that was before doing torghast this week

so im gunna get another 1100 or whatever

i need all 3 any way right

[stray sigil]

which 3 u talking about

[safe heart]

sym natures will and frnezybrand

i have sym already tho

[stray sigil]

frenzy is not good

lol

ipod is trolling u

no shot that becomes good

[safe heart]

it sounds gooder than it be

[stray sigil]

i def would rather make curio over that

maybe even apex for memes

[safe heart]

i wanna try the curio bt build

[edgy shale]

frenzyband is no meme its the next curio accept it now savant or you will be left behind

[safe heart]

might take alittle mental adjustment but i wanna see a 20k bbite

wait does it add a new bleed or increase bleed dmg

[clear pulsar]

I have faith in the frenzyband meta

[safe heart]

wait i mustvebeen remembering the numbers wrong lol

00f

[edgy shale]

yeah

[safe heart]

0.2s

[edgy shale]

its getting buffed

its just about desyncing CDs, like u can beat 3 min cds like pain supression, or u can beat the 3rd usage of a 2 min cd with ur 2nd zerk

plus the extra dam during zerk

[stray sigil]

0.2s off zerk

thats the buff ?

[clear pulsar]

You dont even know the buff and youre doubting it

Smh

[safe heart]

how much is the buff

[tiny oar]

Follow ur dreams make whatever u want as long as it isnt fucking OATH

[edgy shale]

no u noob, thats current frenzyband. the buff is another 0.1 off zerk and 150% bleed instead of 100%

its substantial

[stray sigil]

dogshit

[tiny oar]

Substantial dogshit

[stray sigil]

150% of like 3k dmg shreds

[edgy shale]

during zerk ur shreds can crit for like 4k with tf+badge thats a lot of free dam

idk how it even works, do the bleeds stack or does it just refresh it

[stray sigil]

def does not stack

prob just a refresh

[edgy shale]

i need to craft n test

[stray sigil]

go waste 1.2k ash

[tiny oar]

Sure fuck it what else u gonna spend it on

[edgy shale]

ya i have like 4 lvl 3 leggos for feral alone

i mean

4 lvl 3s

im dysleric

[clear pulsar]

Its like ignite

Adds to the dot

[edgy shale]

bro thats so pog

i need frenzyband now

[tiny oar]

Cant buy gamestop stocks with soul ash bro might as well make meme shit

[rigid silo]

what covenant is everyone running for feral pvp? im really disliking convoke

[stray sigil]

either kyrian or nf

[rigid silo]

might have to try kyrian

necro is fun

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar so i tested it for a while

conflux vs no conflux

and like the difference is like pretty small

around 1-2k ish

vs tfb where ull obv get more dmg in a game

[edgy shale]

i just realized, frenzyband bleed adding to tfb, bro 3% FAT dam

[stray sigil]

so i do think conflux

mad overrated actually

i even tested it with 0 bleeds for tfb

and dmg was like pretty close

was def a useless test

but we take those

[edgy shale]

i hope u tested it like 3000 times

cuz there's so much rng with convoke as a spell

[stray sigil]

i just looked at bite dmg

not overall dmg

cuz like the wraths u get

[edgy shale]

u can get 1 bite, u can get 7 bites

[stray sigil]

wont kill shit lets be honest

think i got on average atleast 3

more like 4

[edgy shale]

ya the avg is 3-4, but shit happens. ive used the spell so many times fully channeled cuz of pve+using the WA that ive seen it all

i posted the 4 bites directly in a row ss the other day

shit was so funny

[clear pulsar]

Yeah go ahead and play troll ass korayn in games with no Conflux

See how much Convoke does

[edgy shale]

maybe the avg dmg of convoke is not that high, but if u high roll convoke conflux could add like 10k

[stray sigil]

i think convoke is more so the threat of convoke rather than the dmg itself lol

[rigid linden]

If u get every cd without convoke it's gg

[stray sigil]

i mean u dont need convoke to get cds

but convoke gets u cds

[rigid linden]

Exactly

[stray sigil]

is what im saying

[rigid linden]

Yeah but if Ur not a sped

Can just hold convoke

And win

[stray sigil]

ya im not saying id convoke 1st global

[edgy shale]

of course not, rake is first global

[rigid linden]

Incarn first global

[stray sigil]

nop auto attack from stealth

[edgy shale]

o true

[stray sigil]

convoke

[edgy shale]

walk up in bear form, WC for root, convoke

[tiny oar]

[cinder saddle]

I tried to follow big daddy patrons opener but I’m not one shotting cats pls help

Is fearful symmetry mandatory

[torn dagger]

Sitting on 8k soul ash now, and got 235 timeworn dreambinder as kyrian. Where should i blow my ash? Get the heart of the wild legendary for big solo survival plays? or Boat for cheezy plays? Or are there actually a use for boat as kyrian in any comp?

[edgy shale]

no feral leggo is mandatory, sym is prob overlal the best trho

[stray sigil]

ur first mistake is listening to fake patron @lime light

i am the patron

[edgy shale]

no...ur a savant. el patron is the patron

[junior plover]

Where can I check the pre-top8 awc bracket

It started today right

[edgy shale]

yeah

[junior plover]

It's the last one so if both F2K and FLP fail to qualify

[edgy shale]

https://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/world-of-warcraft/tournament/awc-shadowlands-2021-na-cup-4/bracket

[junior plover]

Thanks baby

[edgy shale]

pikaboo played ass, like i predcited 30 years ago

[junior plover]

Didn't eu start too?

Since top8 tomorrow

Or did it already finish

FLP IS IN WINNERS SEMIS

FUCK YES

KITTY POWER

[edgy shale]

idk, i dont pay attention to eU cuz they are too TRASH (even tho they clearly better, shush)

[junior plover]

Don't u disrespect tony

Ok Tony made top8 in losers

We take those

[kindred matrix]

Does it matter alot if you rake rip instead of rake Tiger's fury berserk rip etc

[cinder saddle]

Savant pls help

What conduits so i can one shot cats

[safe heart]

Man why are warriors so good

so absurd sometimes

trying to heal my buddy on his hunter with my disc alt and the war comps are just unlivable lol

they literally just sit on you the entire game

[bitter harness]

why is everyone a fucking warrior these days

[edgy shale]

ya blizz is def goofing letting war be this broken for this long, like idk wat they doing

[safe heart]

apparently because to be a successful warrior , all you have to do is press w 1 2 until the enemy is dead

[junior plover]

BM hunters gonna be broken in 9.0.5

mark my words

[safe heart]

like you cant not go warrior cuz of intervene but then going warrior is dumb because they can be healed casually forever

[edgy shale]

like letting them have nuts damage is whatever, fast paced meta is good, but like why do they also get some of the best utlity in the game

innervene, bshout, rally, spell reflect, d stance

why

blade storm

[junior plover]

[safe heart]

spell reflect on 30s cd lol

[junior plover]

just git gud

[edgy shale]

the spell reflect leggo

makes me rage

also triune mage leggo makes me rage

[junior plover]

just play feral

STOP DELETING

[safe heart]

like i know war/pal isnt literally unbeatable but goddamn you run into some games where it feels like it lol

[junior plover]

MY TETTLES

[edgy shale]

getting wardened u spamming birch

[junior plover]

YOU NASTY BOT

[surreal heron]

unlucky

[junior plover]

Warden is on a mission to shut me down whenever I'm laughing too much

It wants me to be miserable

[edgy shale]

that exact thing has happened to me before and thyme was there to laugh at me as well

he told me i was being unoriginal

[junior plover]

True

It happened to me like

4 times by now

so I could see that

[edgy shale]

just trying to get some lols in...laughing outside of my ass

[junior plover]

If both FLP and F2K fail to qualify for the circus

They're both in 9th right now

Just need to place higher than 8th in this top8

Please

I can't take 2 no kitty tournaments

[vocal geyser]

Quick question :
Kyrian boomy Timeworn Dreambind > NF boat for 2s and 3s ??

[safe heart]

sigh

[junior plover]

Yesterday I was hit by 7 starsurge crits out of 9 spells

was fun

idk if he had 3 instants stored or what

but i got obliterated

I think i'll get GladiatorlosSA for ONLY convoke

[bitter harness]

or a weakaura

should be pretty easy to make for arena

[safe heart]

i was mostly mad because he rooted me out of stealth, i trinket instantly and los him but he got 1.5 seconds of channel off so they were in the air and i was fucked already lol

[patent dove]

If you are rooted, convoke cannot hit you

[clear pulsar]

Why tf did u trinket root

[patent dove]

[viscid remnant]

Can u link the eu one

[clear pulsar]

Little bit of hunters

This is a deepwind gorge

[clear pulsar]

Replace 'na' in the link with 'eu'

[edgy shale]

idk where the EU one is

oh, that

[viscid remnant]

Im on phone cba

Later ig

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

Does anyone have VODs of Tony playing necro

better question

does anyone want to see me get gapped by a feral and tell me why i sukk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvAAZwody4

its a few days back but no kitty has ever gapped me like this guy

[lime light]

Its cassidy

Not this guy

[coarse oasis]

Do Ferals have a place in RBGs? I don't want to roll boomy. Or can I just stick with Guardian/Feral?

[junior plover]

wat

which guy then

[tardy hare]

Your clones

What do you expect to happen

If u cast them randomly

Smh

[junior plover]

I honestly dont know when to even clone mirror

I guess shouldve gone his route and just

dont

oh wait it was cassidy

[viscid remnant]

how do these brackets work exactly

f2k and creed are in loser bracket or something or disqualified

[clear pulsar]

If you lose you go to loser bracket

:)

Tf you mean 'how do these brackets work'

It's in the name

Loser bracket = teams that lost

[junior plover]

If you lose in losers you are out of the tournament

You have to win every game in losers & the final to win the tournament

F2K has to beat creed and place higher than Ad Hoc Gaming

To qualify for the circuit

Would be epic if they both win their first matchup and have to face each other

[real kite]

how do I fight windwalker monks as balance druid? I keep getting murdered horribly and my convoke flies into their pets

my partner is a sub rogue

[junior plover]

I dont see a world where sub - nf druid wins vs WW

but you wanna mass root his clones

and kite kite kite kite

[clear pulsar]

Bro I'll have you know

These 2 guildies were apparently sniping my queues yesterday as ww hpal

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

And we beat them twice

TWICE BRO

HOW DO YOU LOOOOOOSE

[junior plover]

what comp

[clear pulsar]

Feral rdru

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

With lake legend

[junior plover]

HOW DO YOU LOSE

[clear pulsar]

HOW DO YOU LOOOOOOSE

[junior plover]

how do u find rdru feral

double convoke memers?

[clear pulsar]

Nah lake is back necro

Idk it's aight

We weren't comms so stun drs were fucky some games

But it's aight

[junior plover]

i see

[clear pulsar]

It was like first time we played

With time we prob slay

[tiny oar]

Yea if we lost 99/100 games against them it's still so incredible that they even lose 1 game man

[junior plover]

How do u lose as Arms/X tho

[clear pulsar]

I need the firekin island mog bro

So expensive on ah tho

[edgy shale]

farm some islands

on a firekin box week

[clear pulsar]

Cant solo q it tho

Can you?

[edgy shale]

no u need to find a group

theres prob ppl in lfg

maybe

[junior plover]

whats the island mog

[tiny oar]

U mean the fire druid mog? u can just buy the pieces rite

[junior plover]

.

[tiny oar]

O are they all 100k g now

[edgy shale]

shoulders have always been really expensive

[tiny oar]

I just bought em when it was current content for like 4k each or less

[edgy shale]

i didn't play start of bfa i didnt know they were that dirt cheap wtf

[tiny oar]

Yea all the armor was like dirt cheap from ppl farming neck lvls at the beginning of new patch

Sum of the weapons were still pricy tho

[viscid remnant]

ya but on the stream right

some teams start in loser bracket

some team start in winners

some arent there

[clear pulsar]

Yeah cuz the tourney has like 200 teams signed up

Stream is only top 8

[viscid remnant]

ah ok

[clear pulsar]

There's been hella games played before

So everyone starts on upper bracket

You have one lifeline

Go to lowers

Seeding is based on 3v3 cr when bracket is settled

[junior plover]

https://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/world-of-warcraft/tournament/awc-shadowlands-2021-na-cup-4/bracket

[viscid remnant]

ye just didnt know how many of the teams r on the stream

[junior plover]

https://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/world-of-warcraft/tournament/awc-shadowlands-2021-eu-cup-4/bracket

Here you can see the entire bracket

for the top8 that starts tommorow

[clear pulsar]

Yeah if you click on a team you can follow to their page to see all their series in one spot

So you know who they lost to without having to find in the gigantic bracket

[junior plover]

losers

At this point the most likely scenario is that F2K will have to beat both Creed and Reload esports to qualify

because chances are Adhoc wont beat method/oldness strikes

[clear pulsar]

Tony and hydra added a mage main to the team

Or was that guy already there?

[junior plover]

He wasnt

[clear pulsar]

I thought kasu was playing mage

Yeah

[junior plover]

Didnt know they had fmp too now

[clear pulsar]

So they added homeboy

[junior plover]

thats cool

[clear pulsar]

Well

They were playing rmp

A lot

I imagine kasu was on mage I don't remember

[junior plover]

Ah I see

So tony offroles sub?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[junior plover]

sucks for kasu to sit out everything but jungle then

but oh well

BRING THE TROPHY HOME

BOIS

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

Bro liquipedia

for awc

is so fucked

none of the results on team's pages

are accurate

^ what really happened

[clear pulsar]

There's prob like 3 people trying to keep it up to date tho

[junior plover]

Yeah hats off to them

but its all fucked

team achievements for ad hoc

press "complete results"

wat

@clear pulsar did u watch tony play necro last awc and if so where can i see it

I NEED my necro fix

[tiny oar]

[junior plover]

GIMME THE VODS

[clear pulsar]

I linked the vod here

Like 3 weeks ago

Go find

[junior plover]

gimme some key word

[clear pulsar]

Thunder

[junior plover]

nice

that was fast

cheers

[clear pulsar]

Looks like island solo q planned for 9.0.5

Nice

[bitter harness]

great content

island solo q

with aoe cap

[lone zenith]

Is there some Resto Druid PvP Guide on youtube? Something where I can catch up with stats, conduits etc

[clear pulsar]

Feral doesnt have aoe cap

Neither does starfall right?

[bitter harness]

big true

i was just thinking back on what I spammed islands as

as ret

divine storm 5 targets wow

[clear pulsar]

I never rly spammed islands

So I don't think I have any doubloons saved up

[bitter harness]

I spent them all

I have all the mounts

missing 2-3 toys I think

[junior plover]

imagine not playing necro feral in 9.0.5

[junior plover]

yeah i think they removed cap from starfall in sl

[edgy shale]

i think swipe is capped

the firekin box thing is like...75? or maybe 125 i forget dublons.

u need the dubloon reesarch or its fucked

[slim robin]

Thought on FoE over solstice for world pvp?

Trying to figure out the best way to do the most damage in the smallest time window possible 😄

[junior plover]

just looked at this again

so why does arms warrior have as much healing as resto affi feral

[slim robin]

wth Im getting my ass handed to me by an undergeared sp

[bitter harness]

get rekt

[slim robin]

dude takes 0 damage

[bitter harness]

what he in dispersion

[slim robin]

not even tf

They just dot me up then I cant heal cause of mindgames and im fucked

I keep silence for their shadow mend but they still absorb all my dmg

[bitter harness]

mindgames is a fun ability

[slim robin]

ugh dugh convoke op

[bitter harness]

not as OP as divine toll

[slim robin]

You can still full moon ion world pvp 😮 so good

[bitter harness]

i miss that animation

[slim robin]

Oh the spriest had 27% vers I guess thats why I didnt hit hard xD

[clear pulsar]

Ignore pain is terrific

[junior plover]

Remove Intervene, Ignore Pain

Arms still good spec

fuck me

Has anyone tried playing kyrian circle/draught into arms/heal

it's just

driving me nuts

one session I'm +150 rating because no warriors in sight, the other i'm -150 because arms every other game

[opal lotus]

are u guys always use starfall on cd in rbg zergs?

[clear pulsar]

I only ever press starfall in garbage time, so to speak

[tall knoll]

Usually you want to have a target caller and focus down said target. Maybe in a melee cleave comp where you just want to aoe cleave everything down

[clear pulsar]

Starfall is pad

[tall knoll]

Pretty much

[hard zinc]

Hey guys, I'm kyrian boomie and was wondering what kind of openers should I be responsible for in 2s/3s scenario. Also, what's my role in RBGs since I don't have convoke pressure anymore?

[carmine trail]

any dedicated Fc's here for RBG? 😄

[wise valley]

is wod engineering still required for glider

[haughty compass]

We lost 11 games in a row last night and then our healer quit the game

So this is fun

[junior plover]

[forest kite]

@hard zinc insta root beam > Pump everything , it's how we do in shadowlands

[junior plover]

no

[forest kite]

your opener should be : Push in mount > dot main target > rot beam healer> Foe+kyrian+badge > pump surge or : push their healer in stealth > root beam > Foe+kyrian+badge on kill target don't even waste any gcd to dot in this case or ( vs stealth ) : Break their opener with Roar > root beam healer > pump

in RBG : Pool 100 AP > Root beam > Pump on target .

[ripe heron]

What's the best feral opener?

[junior plover]

we lost

[junior plover]

rake -> rip -> FF -> go to town

[placid mirage]

Damn man

Literally lost to rng

[junior plover]

and he rezd with pod too

: (

[placid mirage]

Kekw

I was playing 3s last night and we lost one but then I kited to convoke and I killed one then I didn't pay attention and they rezzed the other guy like 40s later

Game is hard

My add-on even told me they were rezzing but for some reason I just thought it was my healer doing it and he got ijnterrupted

[junior plover]

Tbh when I was still convoke

winning the 2v3s/1v2s

was so fun

I think I only won 1 since going kyrian

[blissful belfry]

I tried last night again to help the shit war of my guild to get his 1800. We faced a 23k hp hpal. took us 9 min to kill him because my warrior ''couldnt hit him'' because he's ''too fast''. Imagine bein kited by wheelchair

[junior plover]

[fleet panther]

Question: is it better to level from 50 to 60 through random bg queues or dungeon queues?

[lime light]

@junior plover CASSIDY YES U APE

Yes

[fleet panther]

so yes to random bg queues?

[junior plover]

50-60 in bgs will take you like

200 bgs

not that many but

you get my point

[fleet panther]

jesus

[uneven plume]

Surv/rdruid seems impenetrable for rogue/mage if the Druid’s any good

[lean bear]

If I'm playing draught leggo feral affinity necrolord resto, should my stealth opener be something like rake, rip, moonfire, run, if my aim is to do damage? I'm not sure how many combo points I should try to make my rip

And obv throw adaptive swarm on them after the moonfire

[junior plover]

surv and feral are both insane into rogue/mage

[chrome panther]

roar of sac mega-dicks rogue/mage

[fresh tangle]

Hey all, I am likely to mainly play resto druid but also want to get involved in feral. Guides say resto prioritise haste and feral mastery so was wondering if i went full haste gear how bad would it make my feral or could i get away with it?

[junior plover]

Very terrible

Not only do ferals barely scale with haste in terms of dps

your goes will do no damage

[chrome panther]

play resto/balance instead.

[fresh tangle]

Ok thanks. How about the other way round? If i went full mastery, would that be ok for resto? This is bearing in mind im not looking overly min/maxing as i only really will play up to like 2k rating but if full mastery makes resto useless then i wont bother

[honest mesa]

Cat is the way to go, don't worry about resto stats

Cat is forever bis

[fresh tangle]

When u say don't worry, u mean mastery will be fine for resto?

[tardy hare]

bro u need haste for rdru

haste useless for feral

[lime light]

guys

slime girl, but thicc anus

is ok?

[haughty compass]

What?

[lime light]

wrong channel

[fresh tangle]

@tardy hare I guess that's me farming two sets of gear then 😓 surely there must be a way to balance playing resto and feral?

[safe heart]

eh its hard because feral doesnt care about the main stats of resto and vice versa

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Having half haste vers and have mastery vers on your gear won't make or break your climb as either spec

lol

These people acting like 100 more mastery is winning them games or something

Wild

[tardy hare]

i mean

4% haste

is gonna kill u as rdru

rofl

[true hound]

how come ppl buy the 233 staff instead of 233 offhand and mainhand?

or can you not upgrade those to 233?

when they hit 2400

[lime light]

there is something called weekly vault

[placid mirage]

It is a tiny bit more total stat

[lime light]

Sir

[placid mirage]

I think

Like 4 int or smth

I have 233 oh/mh

[near sonnet]

the staff is haste / the main hand-off hand is mastery

[placid mirage]

That too

I only have 21% mastery in full pvp gear :(

Makes me sad chicken

[viscid remnant]

Hehe machtig you know what kills you as rdruid

[true hound]

these are my current pvp stats

[viscid remnant]

Anything that does damage

[placid mirage]

Looks fine to me

[lime light]

melee zanda troll

👉🏿 🚪

☝🏿

[placid mirage]

U are 224 ilvl which is the most important stat

[true hound]

yea the thing is that my 226 staff is not from pvp, so i cant upgrade it

but i have a 213 main hand that i bought from pvp a while back

[placid mirage]

Are you 2.4

[true hound]

im around 2160 cr, and gonna try to push to 2400

[placid mirage]

I believe in you

[true hound]

wondering if i should just upgrade the MH/OH

or save up for staff

[placid mirage]

I mean you can just wait till u get 2.4 and see what you can afford

[near sonnet]

upgrade what you have 4head, honor is trivial to get

[true hound]

i dont have an offhand yet

just a main hand

[lime light]

trivial to get, if u jerk off and play wow whole day

[true hound]

honestly i was just wondering if the staff and mh/oh were equal

[near sonnet]

you're 2160 with an emptly slot?

[true hound]

thats it

[placid mirage]

They are basically equal

[near sonnet]

@lime light easy to get if you just grind some skirmishes and aren't terrible

[viscid remnant]

Empty slot?

You okay?

[placid mirage]

If u talent into fury warrior u can dual wield staff wdym

[junior plover]

Yo

Im boosting my partner's alt in 2s

reddit wasnt lying

1800 is nothing but boosters

lol

7 out of 8 games we played an another booster

[teal hinge]

You see nothing but glads 2-2.1

[junior plover]

I mean that much I know

[teal hinge]

It's kinda dumb

[viscid remnant]

Its completely fucked

I saw teams with duelist gear at 1700 in 3s

[teal hinge]

Rbg heroes

[tardy hare]

yeah

see boosters

1 guy 30k hp

other 40

imagine losing that as actual team

[viscid remnant]

This game is so fried

[tardy hare]

man

these people are hella trash

also

spriest is fucking broken

[modest cobalt]

What's the difference between using a 2h or a 1h with offhand?

I was told 1h offhand has more secondary stat while 2h has more primary

is that true?

I'm a resto druid wondering which weapon to buy

[teal hinge]

Compare them

[near sonnet]

the staff is haste / the main hand-off hand is mastery

[tardy hare]

one has like

2 more stats

buy whatever

[near sonnet]

smh just look at them

[placid mirage]

Idk a lot of times the boostee isn't 30k hp they are decently geared just not as great at arena

It's usually like a half pvp geared 36k to 38k pve player

So u just have to not let them pve u

[tardy hare]

i mean

if its a pve player

gg free game

they take 23452112 dmg

[placid mirage]

Yeah but hard to tell if they are pve or rbg player

[tardy hare]

both are same pepega level

[placid mirage]

That's me pog

I'm like man melee are hard to deal with but also don't have entangling roots in my bar so what can u do

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/baboon-gif-18671092

[placid mirage]

Monke like convoke

Convoke no kill monke go next

I did triple boomie 3s with the Bermuda triangle strat and almost got 1800

[bitter harness]

lol

[lime light]

the hand = El Patron
monkey = my channel viewers
food = bullshit i write

[junior plover]

TRUTH

[honest mesa]

How to win warr/hpal as disc/feral? Feels hella rough

[lime light]

can u get a monkey as a pet tho?

[placid mirage]

U stagger opening convoke from 3 different corners to force the opponents to try and Los the first boomie but then they walk back into the 2nd 2 boomies

[lime light]

or is it illegal

[placid mirage]

Then u run around without cc anyone because everything is 3x dr'd

[marsh pollen]

Need to go back to where conq gear is all the same ilvl and you just unlock more pieces

[junior plover]

u dont

[chrome panther]

^ this tbh

stop playing 2s, save your sanity

[junior plover]

2s are fun

kill target is warrior

have healer respec to holy

sometimes you can barely win

[chrome panther]

idk playing against war/hpal in 80% of games gets old fast

[junior plover]

30%

but ye

20% being rogue/mage helps

[wise valley]

Just be the warrior

Embrace the bullshit homie

[clear pulsar]

Spam queueing into warr or ww hpals so rage inducing

[wise valley]

My happiness improved 20x by playing arms

[heady geode]

Whats the best 2s setup for NF boomie in 2s?