I assume mages right?
#pvp
arctic rivet
edgy shale
i meant mage, but frost is alerady really good so yea they'd also be overtuned as fuck if they got naother 2% for sure
frost dk
arctic rivet
You do realized its only weapon right?
Our biggest damage being CS is pure frost
Wait nvm
Its 2% all while equip with 2h but still that wouldn’t be OP compared to Rets, balance and Monks
Especially fucking monks....
edgy shale
do ppl even complain about boomies anymore? frost might be better already let alone w/ another 2%
jovial pine
What does the owlplay comp include?
I'm under the impression that, spriest, aff lock, else sham are great for boomkin, but is that it?
I think I've heard rogue/boomkin/healer is quite viable
Primarily talking 3s comps
sharp cape
i have heard wild rumors that frost dk would be good
and i doubt mage can be bad
and boomy ret and boomy war should be ok as well, just because those classes are super strong 😄
jovial pine
I've had great success with dk boomy, having the dk aoe srun and me convoking catches Them off guard
Easy to shit on if you don't panic, and just press the right button 😴
But yeh
Made for some fun games
Tried abit spriest yesterday
That's really great
sharp cape
what's the main catch in boomy sp? people wanna train sp but boomy is good at saying no to it, and sp gives lots of control?
though i think i'll stick to mostly rbgs with boomy, they seem far easier to get rating on XD
chrome panther
tbf rsham/boomie/ele is very toxic
literally just bait out kicks, press grounding/skyfury, press convoke
insta win 9/10 games till glad
edgy shale
gylph play with the mies in his time of greatest need
no1 will play with him right now so its just him screeching about how no1 will play with him
so he plays with bad players and its frying his brain
he bops the mage so he can get a sheep off and the mage just sits there casting fireball
wary breach
anyone have advice on resto druid covenant. I kinda wanted to multi spec as boomie as well so i went night fae. Issue is I definitely intend on playing resto more so necrolord just seems so much better. Should i switch?
tall flicker
what leggo do yall use on bear for rated battlegrounds?
chrome panther
sleeper/barkskin.
chrome panther
anyone have advice on resto druid covenant. I kinda wanted to multi spec as boom...
necro is hotgarb for boomie and nf is pretty meh for resto, pick one or be bad at both tbh
chrome panther
if you intend to pve at all go nf.
tall flicker
is ursocs good for flag running when they pile on you?
chrome panther
some weirdos make necro feral work
necro boomie with circle might work in a rotcomp with aff-lock come 9.0.5
wary breach
cool worst case i could off spec as feral then and not be complete doo doo maybe
yeah i remember looking into rot boomie like the first few weeks of SL but convoke was so good i forgot about that possibility
clear pulsar
Spr isnt a rot spec anymore
errant blaze
Spr isnt a rot spec anymore
Still strong cause they add extra dot protection and mindgames
rigid linden
What r u doing stepdad
safe heart
poppin dark glare on dat ass
edgy shale
wut dot protection does spriest have i dont know
forest kite
Anyone try venthyr boomy in arena?
forest kite
In arena?
forest kite
Convoke is very hard to get off in arena and even if you do it’s not guaranteed to slam the target you want. Kyrian you can pick who you want to eliminate
forest kite
And you get really good 1 minute attacks rather than being a 3 minute bot
arctic rivet
And I remember convoke can someone pick pets
And that ruins their burst
UH dks being the worst ones
forest kite
Kyrian is 1 Minute buff in PvP where you give yourself a 15% damage buff
arctic rivet
Ohh
forest kite
In pve you put it on someone else and you both get 20% dmg buff
arctic rivet
Ah
forest kite
But you pair that 1 minute cd
With fury of elune
And timeworn dreambinder
And hit someone with 6 surges
And they die
No rng required
Then that same setup with incarn is just even more powerful
gloomy nova
What finesse conduit do people run with as resto?
arctic rivet
Ah
Whelp this is gonna be my 3RD FUCKING KYRIAN TOON
1 Necrolord and 3 Kyrian
Being my Dk as Necro and the rest being my Paly, Hunter and now Druid
Actually 4 bec I also have a fucking monk too
chrome panther
convoke isn't that hard to get off in arena
just play better
and play with shaman 
viscid remnant
Or with pala
last basin
arctic rivet
Fuck it I guess I’m sticking night fae
Getting tired of just kyrian
That and convoke is nice
sinful canyon
Nf is fine in pvp too
arctic rivet
If its true that non-night fae is useless for pve then I mind as well get the cov that works all ways then
If I decide to raid
errant blaze
wut dot protection does spriest have i dont know
Fear from dispelling vt or is it vampiric embrace? Cant remember which one 🙂
autumn tendon
Dot protection for spr is that you lineup mind games with UA so they're both on
Roughly the same cast times too
Because you're running with aff anyways
Not because of spr itself
autumn tendon
The combo is mindgames ua
Biggest punish for not dispelling plus the biggest punish for dispelling
weak hinge
UA plus Mindgames is probably the Most toxic thing in this expansion for healers to deal with
errant blaze
Its a horrify so dr’s pretty heavy, which is why the UA silence and dmg is way better 🙂
Afaik
tall knoll
Whats ua?
viscid remnant
Unstable affliction
junior plover
Yee
edgy shale
i just feel like i've seen streams where healers keep dispelling something
and they keep getting hit by the full 3 seconds
junior plover
I'm not sure if this is also horrify but I think so
edgy shale
so i didn't know if the DR worked right
junior plover
Hmmm
edgy shale
or if my potato braion is confsued
junior plover
edgy shale
whatever i dont really care cuz thats really far from mattering to me
i will nevr play a healer
hollow wasp
Hey people. I have a question about leveling a restodruid as alt. I like to push high rating in 2s and play Priest right now. Is Rdruid a viable class to compete the ladder? I dont see alot in 2s right now..
safe heart
Theyre viable , theres just a higher skill floor on it
gotta learn to annoy the fuck out of the other team
hollow wasp
you mean by kiting and cycloning?
safe heart
yeah , you can do alot of cc as a resto druid
rake stuns, clones, roots, hibernates, be generally hard to kill
hollow wasp
Might be a fun alt then. Played it a few expansions ago. Seems fun again
safe heart
If you faction swap do you keep your covenant progress and renown
clear pulsar
Rdru is pretty good in 2s with certain comps
But you are definitely more limited in partners compared to hpal or disc
And necro is bis healing but night fae lets you carry subpar dps in lower ratings easier
edgy shale
Rdru is pretty good in 2s with certain comps
why did blizzard come up with the idea to give feral a 6 scone CD on stealth?
playing rogue then going back it feels discusting
i actually assumed orgues had the same thing idk why
or it was just shorter like 3 sec not 6
altho not having bear form is also discusting ive pressed the bearform hotkey so many times then i jsut die'
clear pulsar
Feint should be bear form hotkey for sho
edgy shale
ok ill change it for u
clear pulsar
kindred galleon
Ba
tiny oar
yeah im getting more used to using feint, its on my barksin cd
playing rogue 
edgy shale
its ok, i play the brother of feral, ass, not a discusting sub rogue
ass has a rotation similar to wat most ppl in the feral chat want for f eral
marsh chasm
Is there any high rated RBG boomie inside? Would you prefer NF or Kyr as Boomie dir RBGs?
slender orchid
Guardian or Boomy more saught after in rbg?
marsh chasm
Both are awesome and wanted in RBG
edgy shale
if u can play boomy then FC on flag maps as guardian w/ sleeper ur the most wanted person possible
marsh chasm
Sleeper?
edgy shale
legacy of the sleeper guardian legendary thats makes u immune to cc very broken
marsh chasm
Ah thx :)
slender orchid
Thought the barkskin was the lego you wanted
edgy shale
sleeper is better, but now is also pretty decent
u accomplish diff things with them and ideally u can swap them out mid game even depending on wats going on
viscid remnant
Ass rogue
edgy shale
but sleeper more important 1st
viscid remnant
Kekw
idle hare
Hey guys I don't want to play chicken anymore. It's super faceroll right now with convoke. Is Resto Druid the best covenant next patch is Necro lord right?
bitter harness
exotic field
Hey. Million dollar questions here (everything as balance):
- Does Convoke hit rooted targets in PVP? - seeing as they don't PVE
- Is there a way around the global CD of entering Moonkin form, because i've seen in videos that people are basically casting Convoke same second as they exit stealth in arena.
- There's no way to make it focus your kill target right?
tiny tusk
no
incarnation
single him out
bitter harness
convoke doesnt hit rooted/sapped/cycloned/poly'd targets
anything that breaks by dmg, plus cyclone
is excluded from convoke
incarn is not on the GCD whereas CA is
tiny tusk
CA isnt on gcd, just doesnt put u in moonkin form
exotic field
Ah so what i've probably seen is people hitting Incarn and then convoke straight after
Seems like a big sacrifice though, dropping Starlord
bitter harness
CA isnt on gcd, just doesnt put u in moonkin form
right, good point
exotic field
Im 2v2ing with a Sub rogue, and the tactics pretty much are killing one before they notice - I'm a arena scrub, bare in mind - wouldn't it make good sense to pick Incarn over Starlord for this particular setup, so i can get Convoke off asap?
edgy shale
Im 2v2ing with a Sub rogue, and the tactics pretty much are killing one before t...
definitely. incarn is always a very strong option w/ boat and NF
literally regardless of comp
check pins for a lot of good info
tall knoll
Once i started getting to 1600+ i went for starlord again because people know to keep some form of cc and trinket up for convoke. But even then it can work with a rogue as setup and convoking at max ramge.
Unless its a shaman because Grounding totem
exotic field
Unless its a shaman because Grounding totem
doesn't that only stop 1 spell?
exotic field
check pins for a lot of good info
thanks for reply, where do i see pins?
tall knoll
Grounding totem lasts 3 seconds
hushed bluff
It will take one spell if targeted
edgy shale
pins are in the top right
gleaming flicker
grounding totem is to stop a spell cast cc if used for anything else you are da poo
trail crane
I love generalized answers
fervent imp
do you have a macro that use cyclone on mouseover and on target if not ?
i used these for healing macro like rejuv or the dispell
but this didn't work for cyclone
the mouseover part yes but not the target part
fathom lily
What trinket should i use as nf boomie? The on use int with crit?
marsh chasm
Just to make sure about your discussion about instant pop Incarn + convoke. I had some Moments i hit it and did like nothing cuz i wasnt in combat. Is this fixed or something like that?
junior plover
do you have a macro that use cyclone on mouseover and on target if not ?
/cast [@mouseover, exists] Cyclone; Cyclone
fervent imp
@junior plover thanks a lot this work perfectly
marsh chasm
So you better come out of Stealth, moonfire, Incarn +convoke?
rotund bronze
I was suggested to craft Natural Order's Will as a completely new feral, but I see that Curio is getting a buff in half patch. Would y'all consider NOW to still be the highest value leggo for someone who doesnt know what they are doing yet?
vocal geyser
do you think necro lord boomy with cycle of life and death can be viable next patch with the upgrade of swarm ? (35% more dot damage)
vocal geyser
rotund bronze
If you were directing that at me, I have checked the pins. However, I can't ask a question to a wowhead guide.
chrome panther
do you think necro lord boomy with cycle of life and death can be viable next pa...
maybe if you can find an afflock willing to play the comp. Won't compare to kyr/nf playing with fmage/ele.
vocal geyser
I'm playing with an affli indeed
lethal hinge
Anyone know where I can find basic information about guardian for RBGs?
pallid coral
@lethal hinge what you looking for
viscid remnant
Use the good legendary and play the game good 👍
lethal hinge
Ah yes
pallid coral
Legacy of the sleeper legendary
Gear is just the same as all the other specs
Big Vers
pallid coral
One thing to note that some people don't realise is that brambles damage breaks flag caps
viscid remnant
Base sitter or fc
pallid coral
so if you just sit on a flag in stealth
then it's impossible to get solo capped on by rogues
fresh tangle
Whats the general playstyle of boomies in arena and rbgs? just dot everyone up then cast starsurge when u have astral power ?
lethal hinge
rbgs is pooling AP for an eclipse like in PVE, blowing 3 into the call target
cinder saddle
One thing to note that some people don't realise is that brambles damage breaks ...
so when you are base holding, do you just sit in stealth on flag and if you get trapped/stunned pop bark?
just trying to figure out how to spin efficiently until help comes
lethal hinge
Yes
pallid coral
yeah
wait until late into their cap
and skin
depending on what you're defending against
you can also just incarn the follow up cc
to hold trinket for longer
lethal hinge
Is there maps where you don't need a guardian
pallid coral
like it's super predictable that if you trinket cc when rogue is nearby
lethal hinge
so you just play balance
pallid coral
you're probably getting insta blinded
uh there's a fair few maps where you can opt out of playing guardian yeah
depending on what strat you play
like gilneas maybe your rogue defs
silvershard/seething/ etc etc etc
lethal hinge
Seething is crazy for guardian imo
pallid coral
I mean you don't even really need a tank, the r1 na group never play tanks on any maps
and just do boomie fc
lethal hinge
pallid coral
but it's def easier to play with a tank most of the time
yeah
I don't really get how they live on some maps
valid robin
Do you know if any of them stream?
valid robin
Ah okay thank you very much! Lots of camel streamers it was looking like
lethal hinge
On flag maps wouldn't feral affinity be better
than resto
Doubt you'll ever want to leave bear form
pallid coral
Yeah you can play any of the 3 affinities
I started playing balance affinity even
For flap + boomkin convoked
Xd
Nothing funnier than proccing a moon
surreal heron
lethal hinge
flap is crazy tho
on some maps
I see A LOT of different PVP talents
on the top players
clear pulsar
The affinity are most of all for the utility they give
Vortex is pretty big sometimes
But typhoon can be too
teal hinge
It's good
vocal geyser
tank are recieving nerf in FC bg next patch
vocal geyser
stacks also reduce healing recieving
clear pulsar
What sounds good then?
lethal hinge
Toughness is a given
lethal hinge
That's a 2.5 min cd tho
clear pulsar
Demo roar is as much a lock as toughness
forest kite
Hey Guys in keys do you play double on use?
lethal hinge
Think you're in the wrong channel buddy
forest kite
wrong channel ups
lethal hinge
Overrun sounds fun
lethal hinge
Surely CC is too valueable
surreal heron
maybe
pallid coral
I play heart of the wild sometimes
surreal heron
i imagine if you're owlvoking, hotw would be worth using
pallid coral
yeah sometimes
mass entanglement is pog sometimes though
or bash
to peel yourself
like if you play resto affinity + mr on a map
you have insane self peel
placid mirage
Badge or medallion to 226 first from 197
lime hedge
Anyone know why some ferals stack haste after vers/mas?
severe badger
What dr is hibernate on?
pallid coral
Incap
bitter harness
Badge or medallion to 226 first from 197
badge
medallion ilvl doesnt matter much because only the int part gets upgraded
placid mirage
Yeah I figured
bitter harness
medallion is the last item you want to upgrade
placid mirage
Next week I get medallion too and finally full 226 with 233 wep
bitter harness
nice
placid mirage
I am Reddit enemy #1, 1700 arena boomie who hit 2.4 in rbgs first time playing
lime hedge
RBGs are a meme rn but they're convenient to gear
lethal hinge
@pallid coral Do you ever use maul at all
placid mirage
Kekw
lethal hinge
wtf
clear pulsar
I don't think they do lol
lethal hinge
Don't have a bind for it
clear pulsar
Literally only 2 people in this guild I joined have any arena rating, out of like 20 that are 2.4+ in rbgs
Everyone else is dead ass 15hundos with 300+ games played
pallid coral
@lethal hinge only when I'm 1v1ing someone for some reason
placid mirage
Yeah f2f but for every person like that I'm p sure there are 10 people like my guild who constantly form 1400 to 1600 rbg groups and never climb
junior plover
I do think most people underestimate rbgs though
placid mirage
I know u guys think it's a meme but there are a lot of ppl playing who literally have never seen a single bg map before
junior plover
No there's obviously some skill involved in RBG
But it has nothing to do with arena pvp
haughty compass
Idk. I’ve started to just straight up pve in arena and my rating has gone up 150 pts
placid mirage
Yeah but I also think like telling the average person to just pug 1800 bc it's piss easy will generally not be their experience
junior plover
1800 is top 40% in rbg irrc
Top 10% in arena
Idk about piss easy but in comparison it is piss easy
But gz on 2400 tho that's still nice
placid mirage
Yeah I mean I think most anyone could put in the time to get 1800 rbg but I think for a new pvper it would be like a couple of weeks of actually trying and learning and playing most days
But I see ppl who think they can yolo queue rbg as their first time and get 1800 like over the weekend
Ty I got 2401 and now I just tanked to play with friends
I did learn a lot tho
junior plover
Rbg will teach you some basic concepts like pressing buttons to kill someone
But securing a kill in an rbg is nothing like setting one up in arena
placid mirage
Tru
junior plover
While I love to meme at the rbg heroes hardstuck under 1400 in arena
Truth be told it's just a different game
bitter harness
I like RBGs
placid mirage
Ya I mean arenas are hard af
junior plover
I'm sure you could find a group of 10 glads who aren't able to get 2400 rbg together
placid mirage
Use all my brain it hurts
haughty compass
1889 -> 2021 in arena just simply doing my pve rotation
junior plover
haughty compass
Clone for a peel here and there
junior plover
What are you an arms warrior
placid mirage
Kekw
haughty compass
Moonkin frost dk disc
junior plover
placid mirage
Incarn convoke is my pve rotation
haughty compass
It actually made me mad how easy it was after I stopped trying set shit up
Dk does all the work every aoe stun
junior plover
Yeah you can pve your way to like 2.2k in 3s
blissful belfry
no not really
placid mirage
I don't have anyone to push 3s with now rip
I got all my friends to 1600 now they want 1800 and I'm like ok u overestimate my abilities
blissful belfry
^
blissful belfry
i got a lot of my friends to 1800 when i had a gear lead early season with convoke
blissful belfry
I did exactly that with Monk feral disc earlier this season
You doing that doesnt mean anyone can PVE to 2.2
junior plover
See here's the thing
haughty compass
I’m not a gladiator, I just want 2100 for the cosmetics and the gear. Maybe if I had people who played the specs I need to really push
rigid edge
Is there any guide for boomies for 2s im having a hard time getting past 1.6k
placid mirage
I think what u think of as pve someone is not what a pve player would think of as pve
placid mirage
@rigid edge don't respect enemy players until they make u
IF no one is stopping a convoke off the rip just do it
rigid edge
well i cant seem to get one off lmao
junior plover
I think the 1.6-1.9k bracket was the hardest for me when I was still convoke in 2s
It's like
They switch off their brain
placid mirage
Just open out of stealth with incarn convoke
junior plover
And only look for convokes
placid mirage
Have ur partner cc one person and then just blast
junior plover
And then at elite+ people just burn trinkets aggressively thinking they're the shit
haughty compass
I bait shit with convoke. I just smoke people with incarn
placid mirage
I kill so many people from 1600 to 2k in 2s with the dumbest convokes
You will eventually hit a rating where you can't hard yolo
But getting past 1600 is still yolo territory imo
I play a lot of games in the 1400 to 1700 range with ppl
haughty compass
1900 in 2s, 62 games. Haven’t done a lot of convoke 2s tbh
placid mirage
I played with a disc and we got to 2k with door into their team > scream 2 > convoke for kills
tardy hare
Yesterday i was planning to run away from enemy
But i accidently pressed convoke instead of soulshape
And the enemy died
placid mirage
Poggers
tardy hare
haughty compass
Relatable
placid mirage
Arms warriors never expect the disc to door onto them
When gates open
That's when u strike
He also played holy and would give me ward + concentration circle
haughty compass
Our 3s strategy is similar. Dk does the double or triple stun, I open with dark arc convoke... if they live we get another go in a few with incarn fury and we usually win or our priest dies
placid mirage
Rip priests no bubble
My arena strategy checklist is: maybe they are an idiot, kill the disc priest, pally didn't bind bubble
hardy gate
What are peoples thoughts on rdruid in 9.0.5? Viable or still low tier?
tardy hare
Unless im on my warrior
placid mirage
Idk the amount of times I giga blasted a disc after his 2 melee W keyed across the map is easily dozens
tardy hare
Me thinking of rdruid in 9.0.5
hardy gate
They're not that bad are they?!
blissful belfry
Convoke is pretty funny, and any disc / hpal that gets caught unprepared can die to it even at 2k rating. U just pop outta stealth behind em and if they dont bubble asap or ps dome double radiance they die
hardy gate
Doesn't help I play with a DH 
placid mirage
Technically there are glad rdruids
So u can be one too
I probably win 90% of my games vs rdruids
They seem to not be able to defend themselves
hardy gate
I just hate purge spam and with more priests lately mindgames is also horrible
lethal hinge
defending themself is not the issue
placid mirage
I just bash and convoke and they sit there and die most games
lethal hinge
it's healing others that is an issue
placid mirage
Ya I have heard they struggle in most areas tbh
They don't have good mitigation cds or burst healing afaik
lime light
Rdru already most broken healer, just rdru players thinks its bad
They got used to being super broken op
placid mirage
Although an rdruid did hit a 27k regrowth on a monk I had almost killed once
hardy gate
It's fine with swiftmend and NS but outside of that the hots don't do much against some of the burst meta
patent dove
nature's swiftness
hardy gate
swiftmend into NS regrowth = full heal
placid mirage
Ic
patent dove
1 minute cooldown
placid mirage
I have no idea what they do
patent dove
pally does the same without any cooldowns
placid mirage
Tru
hardy gate
If I didn't have NS this expansion I would have rerolled a long time ago
blissful belfry
fuck you warden
tardy hare
How tf he regrowth for 27k tho
Man, holy paladins heal 20%->100% with divine favor when healing is reduced by atleast 75% tf you mean 27k regrowth is big
Smh
placid mirage
Bruh I'm just saying I had never seen a rdruid heal for 27k
junior plover
Seriously my mind goes
tardy hare
Smh
blissful belfry
sotf + ns
junior plover
Wow Druids can full heal like so often how can they be bad
Then I remember
What world we live in
It's a sad reality
blissful belfry
full heal so often? its like, 1 min cd for the full heal
junior plover
Yeah in my mind that's often
blissful belfry
hehe
placid mirage
They have no interrupt and no instant cc to stop my bash convoke so they usually don't make it to full healing time at low rating
placid mirage
Ya but they are molasses fingers
blissful belfry
i stopped trying resto druid early season in 3s cause i just couldnt keep up with melee cleave, they'd blow up 2 dudes at once and theres no mathematical way i can use my toolkit to keep them alive
junior plover
Problem is
placid mirage
I bash them in the open > take a couple steps back > incarn convoke
junior plover
If hots heal for more Rdruid is gonna dominate 2s
So fucking hard
It's not even funny
hardy gate
I'm stuck at 1800 in 2s with DH
placid mirage
Top 10% pog
junior plover
You will never kill anyone vs rdruid in 2s
placid mirage
Yeah rdruid before made me feel the same way hpal do now
junior plover
So idk what they can even do I think they just need like a pain suppression esque cooldown
placid mirage
They keep healing without casting anything
junior plover
To keep up with burst windows in 3s
hardy gate
12% extra on rejuv, x 2 with germination and stronger adaptive swarm in 9.0.5 not enough?
patent dove
not even close
patent dove
that's not gonna happen either
wise valley
Rdruid good scaling always get better
junior plover
I'm very convinced it will
wise valley
Same with lock
junior plover
Rdruid is already very very good with arms in 2s
patent dove
it's gonna make rdruid better, it's not gonna change anything about how good they are in the meta
wise valley
There is no 2s meta
junior plover
There is but no one cares
wise valley
2s def bursty
patent dove
2s is bursty enough and damp is also hard on our feeble hots
hardy gate
2s is full out burst, use defensive cd's, wait for next burst window and repeat
junior plover
Yeah the 20% damp might keep Rdruid in check
wise valley
If u can make 2s slow paced u can control it and win
junior plover
But the 2s burst is not enough to go through hots
hardy gate
Oh yeah, forget about 20% damp off the bat
junior plover
That's kinda the point
wise valley
Like boomy psyching out people
junior plover
1 person can't go through full hots in 9.0.5
No way
And with Hpal nerfs
I could see arms/Rdruid being the best 2s comp
wise valley
Rn u can honestly root beam a rdruid as a playstyle to force 2 gcds
junior plover
Depends on what happens to arms ofc
wise valley
Meanwhile u convoking
Into 3 surges
They gotta shift in and out to heal
Cus hots trash
junior plover
I mean yeah but that goes for every healer
Except they gotta trinket
Rdruid can just trinket your roots too if they need these 2gcds so badly
Right
patent dove
other meta healers don't need at least 3 globals to top someone
junior plover
That is true
wise valley
Its the pressure
junior plover
But other meta healers can't heal while stunned
wise valley
No other healer has it like that
junior plover
Or los
Or out of range
A lot of the time in 2s the damage is already giga tight to kill someone like an arms warrior or affli warlock in a go
No matter how good cross cc you do the dots are ticking
wise valley
Range with weak hots not reliable to compete against huge burst
Cus u need that clone
junior plover
Best u can do is hope to dispell them
hardy gate
How do you get around purge spam?
wise valley
U sneak drinks
patent dove
purge spamming shamans and priests can't use their globals to heal themselves. make sure to hit them in the face when they purge
wise valley
While they oom
patent dove
shammy purges = hit them
junior plover
U spend more Mana on hots
Than they do on purge
So it's not great
But druid has the easiest time drinking by far
wise valley
Glad I play warr
patent dove
in 3s, being spam purged usually kills your team if you don't put on counterpressure or cc the purger
wise valley
Less buttons more chill
2s rn easier if u just leave resto and swap to boomy
Get ret or rogue partner
Chill games
patent dove
still think that LB should procc 4 times if purged
junior plover
Idk every time I think about the issues of this meta
patent dove
so that they actually help you top the target
junior plover
I just see how these issues are deeply ingrained in one another
safe heart
the issues of this meta is paladins
change my mind
junior plover
and how it cant just be fixed by bumping some numbers here or there
you remove paladins and mages never lose a game again
safe heart
theyre keeping me down man
junior plover
you make healers not heal 300% hp in a single cast
and turbo runs everyone over
damned if you do damned if you dont
patent dove
well "perfectly balancing" a game like wow isn't possible but the point is that frequent changes will throw off the meta before it can settle. it prevents a situation like the current one where people feel like the meta is "unfair" because everything is figured out and put into ranks. if there were constant changes to class power, entirely figuring out something is not a thing anymore and people will keep looking for optimal ways to play. this way, we would never reach a point where we could say "pallys are the best healer in 9.0" because we simply wouldn't know
this has a flipside however, as there are some people who like to just play what's best
safe heart
atleast that would fuck over those dirty fotm swappers
stray sigil
I'm sure you could find a group of 10 glads who aren't able to get 2400 rbg toge...
0 chance
listen
tardy hare
I'm sure you could find a group of 10 glads who aren't able to get 2400 rbg toge...
AHAHAHAAHAHHAA
stray sigil
let rdru stay « bad »
stray sigil
patent dove
tardy hare
Wouldnt care about hpals if they didnt just look at me all game while standing still
:(
stray sigil
nerf hpals but stop buffing rdrus
lime hedge
Hpal's may be babby's first healer and a bit overtuned...but Rdruids are literally playing another game when they're strong
It's awful
stray sigil
mld meta wooooiooo
safe heart
^
lime hedge
They're getting there. Slowly
patent dove
make hpal instant cast shit
tardy hare
Mans just standing there doing unstoppable heals
Angery
All they do is afk insta cast until divine favor is up
Then poof
Full hp
lime light
Anyone tryna teach me shuffle dance
tardy hare
:o
tardy hare
Anyone tryna teach me shuffle dance
Nah
lime light
patent dove
thing about healing in pvp is that the viability of healing itself depends on the power of DPS. if dps is so strong that you can't really heal if you play well, then what's the point of healing. but if a healer plays well and his heals are supposed to outheal damage done, then when is the game going to end? blizz has tried regulating this via mana, only that classes can drink in pvp
cinder saddle
is that chance
exotic field
Hey - Convoke question incoming:
If you cast Incarn + Convoke makro straight from stealth without being in combat with your opponent, it will cast a bunch of healas - but what if the opponent is in combat with your 2v2 buddy, but you just haven't joined the fight yet. Will it then attack instead of heal? Or do you have to pop a moonfire or so first?
surreal heron
from my understanding, they just have to be in combat. period.
exotic field
i think you are right
patent dove
convoke even hits mobs that are in combat with the enemy faction
doesn't need to be your ally even
lime light
Guys give up, wow is for apes and nerds
exotic field
doesn't need to be your ally even
yeah so basically hits everything in range as long as whatever it hits are in combat
lime light
Good no one agreed, i would have to banish u from my channel
tardy hare
Its true
lime light
hardy gate
no one disagreed
junior plover
https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-monkey-gorilla-mirror-fight-me-gif-7936997
I heavily disagree
tall knoll
What is the alternative? Play mobile games? 
lime light
Now we posting our selfies
safe heart
i want more travel form options
lime light
I see how it is
tardy hare
I want claws of shirvallah cat form appearance
surreal heron
legion claws are race specific
lime light
Thanks Thyme
surreal heron
Thanks Thyme
junior plover
Ye but that was when they were doing forms
and right now they were like
do we add it to barber?
it'll take 5 min
oh no nvm
kultiran and zandalari
surreal heron
true
viscid remnant
lime light
monkaS
no i did it
at gas station
they dont know how to project gas station
lmao
junior plover
looks donzo to me
inland raptor
what are the best condiuts for balance for rbgs?
junior plover
My omnibar stopped working but when I press "Test" it works 
lime light
lime light
check again...
lime light
lime light
u want chill streak id?
lime light
the base one doesnt work
junior plover
huh
lime light
same with lasso
junior plover
yeah gimme
lime light
that might be not true for the next one
but there is kinda nothing u can do about convoke
u cant keep kick
ecc
junior plover
Ok it works now idk how that thing got unchecked
Yeah i know but
eh i probably played 1 feral convoke in the last 100 games
but would be nice to know when its up
same with balance
lime light
feral convoke is too much rng, to being relevant
or playing around it
it can legit dont do anything whole cast
or kill u in 1/3 of cast
junior plover
The fact that a giga shit tiger's fury on a 1 min cd
is better than convoke
is so funny to me
safe heart
always doing reliable dmg better than rng dmg
safe heart
im gunna put it to you the way it was explained to me Patron
"if they have hands they win"
its hard to press bubble with nub i guess
blissful belfry
at least they nerfin divine toll one shots in 9.0.5
blissful belfry
although they buffin final verdict by 15% (or was it 25% i dont remember)
junior plover
Yeah but they will probably still run the prot one
blissful belfry
imagine verdicts for 25k
junior plover
or so they say
junior plover
In the end if they drop the prot leggo they'll deal only slightly less burst than right now
blissful belfry
disgust it makes them use a spell they dont even own
junior plover
but they drop prot leggo
to do so
so
WW monks still not nerfed to account for trinket bonus
lime light
idk it kinda feels like
junior plover
lime light
the prot lego doesnt do much rn
if we proc it on ret, he has to bubble/bop die most of the time
maybe its better vs rmx ecc
but as jungle it doesnt feel that insane
blissful belfry
well, it also gives him a free wog iirc
junior plover
thats super weird to hear
i'd think it'd be giga strong
into jungle
you have such limited burst
blissful belfry
like, every min, u get 50% dr + free wog when u drop low
makes the main weakness of ret not a weakness anymore
junior plover
I think they might run the offensive one because their burst will just be shit
and sustained damage will be shit
so why play ret
at least with the offensive leggo they can be glasscannon
blissful belfry
well, ret pal's burst wont be shit
even after divine toll nerf
it just wont be ''too bad you didnt pre-immune it''
junior plover
yeah but post nerf just play feral
lime light
the burst will be still op
blissful belfry
^
lime light
heard 1 gcd
blissful belfry
0,75
lime light
so 1.5sec
junior plover
ah okay
lime light
i posted some link somewhere
junior plover
yeah nvm then i thought it was multiple gcds
so you could actually heal
in between
blissful belfry
'' the more important change is that each proc now comes with a small time delay of about 0.7 seconds between them instead of all at once.''
from the wowhead post https://www.wowhead.com/news=321198/melee-dps-class-writers-opinions-on-class-tuning-changes-on-the-9-0-5-ptr?webhook
dont know about the accuracy of this claim, but its from the ret pal class writer
junior plover
lime light
safe heart
they buffed frenzybrand? or theyre going to?
seems like it might be pretty good
ferals can farm combust berserk
lime light
farm something that does nothing
being super honest with u, old berserker would be better in that "only bite damgur matter" meta
blissful belfry
that clip is nice
although i can imagine the ret pal pressing 2 verdict in a row landing at the same time as the 2 judgement delay
making for 2 30-35k hit in a row
xD
tidal meadow
Guys do you know anny comunity (discord) for pvp Ranked BG ?
marsh pollen
Should I buy conq chest piece or badge trinket first?
junior plover
Chest
lime light
klata plecy barki
junior plover
TRUE
idk if u have a 213 then it might be different
trinkets are relatively low priority
marsh pollen
i have a 220 of the proc trinket
but idk if thats better then the honor on use
probably doesnt matter that much
lime light
weapon>ring/neck (with versa+bis stat if u dont have one)>everything else with bis stats like versa + bis>battlemaster>rest
yes
marsh pollen
im feral
junior plover
u rly think jewelery is over chest and helmet?
marsh pollen
but idk how good badge is
junior plover
lime light
if u dont have bis stats on those
the ring and neck is insane
big big versa
and mast
lime light
best items u can get
lime light
i would buy badge early on
u wanna play battlemaster sometimes
dont spend coqnuest on thing u are not gonna use in 100% games
lime light
ye i wouldnt
lime light
play always into rmx
even if u know u are not main target
their brain is super small
junior plover
idk i feel like in RMX specifically
lime light
they might tab target u in combust go
junior plover
if I pre-bear the swap
im fine anyway
so like
if i have time to pre battlemaster
i might as well just bear
lime light
battle master into melee cleaves is bad
lime light
cuz the only way u can die, is when your healer is oom
into god comp, idk
i think u dont need it
if u dont trinket random cc
junior plover
lime light
but it can be played i agree
junior plover
WW mage too probably
RMX as I've said I think u can just bear and be fine
mostly
but idk
im a scrub
marsh pollen
idk i might buy the trinket cause its 23 ilvl on trinket vs 7 on chest
lime light
idk to be hoenst,i feel like it only helps into rmx, cuz vs melee cleaves it wont change much, into ele based comps, u still gonna die even with bm
forest kite
Has anyone tried venthyr boomy in PvP?
marsh pollen
yeah i dont
junior plover
yee i'd go for it
marsh pollen
i have everything except for trinkets and the chest piece
lime light
link armory
junior plover
im thinking of dropping this for vers crit
or even vers haste
other than that im stacked
forest kite
Are you kyrian?
lime light
this ring is super good
junior plover
Yep
lime light
i would keep it
junior plover
kyrian feral
forest kite
Ohhhh feral
junior plover
Yeah I think i'll keep double mastery rings
especially since its a ring so
no agi
the 6 ilvl is 7 vers 7 stam
but worse 2ndary
gotta pick up mythic raiding for these motherfuckers
ignore equipped: 1 its a lie
junior plover
true
placid mirage
Enjoy your months of prog and 5% drop chance for a single item on the loot table
Pog
teal hinge
Sounds like a blast
blissful belfry
Im starting SLG prog tonight, we'll see if i get those shoulders
Although, i had the brilliant idea of crafting verdant infusion on shoulder 235 for my resto druid pvp offspec. If these cucks make me trade the shoulders away, i guess i'll need to find a new guild.
tiny oar
I got 235 verdant shoulders too o well who cares
U no what's more important than 70 more haste, breaking ankles.
blissful belfry
im just picturing myself after i kill SLG and i drop shoulders ''uhhh, i dont know why RClootcouncil says i can trade em, i only have my 226 equipped as you can seeeee'' and i equip / unequip the shoulder real quick and show them they cant be traded
lime light
imagine giving other ppl loot
LMAO
if they say that shit, "other guy needs it for our progress"
tell them to fuck off
and say that, the blizzard gonna nerf the bosses to the ground
tiny oar
Lol ya fuck em dont even loot it just have it sent to the mailbox
lime light
before new patch anyway
blissful belfry
You know whats worse? I got in the mythic raid with 226 pvp gear, while these noobs were 1200 cr with no gear. i could trade most of the gear and they were all like ''uhhh Big dps up for me, i have 197 ilvl ones''
fuck off in hell
surreal heron
huh
blissful belfry
its like these lazy asses on early weeks, uh, that 213 is a big upgrade compared to my 128 ilvl boots! Meanwhile the guy who farmed gear is like... /cri
lime light
family friendly!
tiny oar
Yea welcome to our family friendly Christian pvp channel thyme, ppl of all races gender religion n sexuality r welcome.
surreal heron
good to know
tiny oar
Unless u play a tank in arena then theres the door 🚪
lime light
tank or, if u think rdru isnt op
blissful belfry
being a christian channel still makes that prefer young boys
tiny oar
tank or, if u think rdru isnt op
Ur actually so fried man its insane
tiny oar
thats truth 😦
I'm not sure about that 1 it's decent for sure but wouldn't call it op atm
What u need help with buddy
junior plover
You know whats worse? I got in the mythic raid with 226 pvp gear, while these no...
Im thinking
maybe I could just find giga pumper groups for my keystone master in lfg
im 226 and like decent ish rio
these guys are probably crying in 220 ilvl
will nut when they see me sign up
tiny oar
Yea me too get me in there
blissful belfry
arent everyone 226 already tho?
tiny oar
Ur 220 if u sumhow cant get 2100 in fucking rbgs but other than that
blissful belfry
i dont really know bout m+ cuz thats the most boring thing in the game
but even without pvp, just from the vaults and raid, u should be 226 shouldnt u
junior plover
arent everyone 226 already tho?
Idk these guys probably run 20+
blissful belfry
nvm me, i just remembered myself insulting 3/4 of my raid group for being shitters with their low ilvl
junior plover
getting 226 gear from only m+
is hard af
only vault
i only hit full bis from pvp now so
theyre like 70% done i guess
tiny oar
I've been 226 on main for like a few weeks maybe I got lucky tho
blissful belfry
there are peeps in my raid group at 218 ilvl. we starting SLG M prog tonight. Fuck me sideways what did you even do for the past 2 months to be that low ilvl
tiny oar
Yea that's like big casual questionable shit
blissful belfry
I have friends in another guild, they had to give a whole lotta shit to their dk. He was wearing a 197 ilvl chest piece on SLG prog
hello?
wat
junior plover
there are peeps in my raid group at 218 ilvl. we starting SLG M prog tonight. Fu...
RAIDED
charred pebble
First time playing Druid and been 60 for about a week so still a tonne to learn. Does feral ever use thrash for the bleed in PvP? Looks very lacklustre.
opal pumice
instead of being a catto