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forest kite
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idc a bit , i was just wondering what the fuck happen these Three last week

slim crater
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Pally nerfs

forest kite
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( i still enjoy play against 3K+ ppl and learn from them ) but my mate who didn't have a main already glad aren't xDD

green valve
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Thats a pretty big nerf tbh

forest kite
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like i said , myself i enjoy to play against them , i wouldn't meet these player if boosting didn't exist

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but it was a question , why so much boost right now around 2.4 mmr , one month ago it wasn't an issue

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nah i've check every single team , and yeah selfplay are manageable , but there is not only safeplay

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they do

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ofc they do , they just advertise they will be probably bann one month but ppl still buy it

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xD

slim crater
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No one pilots, it's not worth it

forest kite
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nah i'm 100% honest with you , i've check every single team ( i was curious ) and 75% of our game between 2.4-2.5 mmr was against 2 rank 1 ( on main or alt )

slim crater
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Boosters tbh exist in 1400 to 1600 alot, and it's where it's the worst

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That's not piloting

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Thats just boosting

forest kite
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when the char

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have 4000 games

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and doing MMR drop every single day

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it is

slim crater
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That's boosting dude

forest kite
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3 week ago

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not so much

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right now

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a fucking plague xD

slim crater
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Pilot is when someone else logs into your account @forest kite

forest kite
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i know

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it's account sharing

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go to blazingboost , buy it , job done

slim crater
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They just boost

forest kite
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if you think we wont do it

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because you have a good chance to get a bann

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nah they don't care at all , they take your money and they do it ;

safe heart
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my druid has 2100 games

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why am i not glad yet

slim crater
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Not paying for a pilot

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/s

forest kite
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and i know when i'm facing a selfplay with a dumb being carried by two R1 , and when not , like i said i don't care and i don't complain , i'm asking if there is a reason there is a lot these day

edgy shale
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i have nveer seen more ppl complain about boosting in wow than in this channel and reddit

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altho its entirely possible u got an unlucky streak which is frustrating

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of b00sters

forest kite
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i don't know , i thought first , but after 3 sessions it's pretty strange

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i mean , it was already here one month ago , but not in these proportion , it was like it is at 1.6 or 1.8

haughty compass
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The couple booster games I’ve played against I learned more from than 50 regular games

forest kite
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yeah for that , it's pretty nice

haughty compass
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A mage ww carrying a paladin, completely shut us down. I learned a ton

forest kite
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myself i don't care a bit , i'm playing on my alt so it's for fun , idc about rating , now i'm thinking about ppl able to do their glad if these boost didn't exist

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it's a bit unfair

haughty compass
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Meh, they aren’t immortal

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I’ve taken down a few of them in 2s

forest kite
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they are not , but still it's easier to win regular team xD

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it's even worst

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you get used to play against way better

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so when you meet a regular team , you smash them

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@vestal citrus btw i'm playing eu

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and i can link you like 15 ppl i've meet tonight , with like 5 mages on their account boosting around 2.4 cr , 5 monk etc , doing 200-300 game per day

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so you Q , and you meet them , again , again , again & again .

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when their mmr rise , they swap a new char with a trash mmr

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yeah i don't know , like i said that shit happen 2-3 week ago

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my question is : Why xD

pallid coral
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Because it's good source of gear

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So it's good gold

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But yeah sometimes you're just playing meme games at 2.2 and you q into zeepeye and blizo on Alts

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What can u do

edgy shale
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oh, yea i didn

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really think about how EU and na could be diff lol i was just assuming u were na

forest kite
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it's just

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you watch most of EU player at 3K+

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they have all multiple alt sitting around 2.4 CR . with 4000 games

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and yeah , in pve , getting gear isn't crap as fuck right now ?

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i mean in raid

edgy shale
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they buffed it and valor is coming, its fine

forest kite
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to be honest , next season , i will play the first month , then just chill on alt or peform boost myself once the shit show start xD

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i don't even know if i've even meet a single boost the first month of the season

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and yeah i just watched reddit , so much complain since 2 week about facing only R1 around 2.4 , rofl i still don't understand why now , and why not 1 month before

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i think it's just ppl started to buy glad boost like crazy ahahahah

edgy shale
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ok never ask mies to do 2s he goes ballistic

clear pulsar
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Bro did you literally only learn about the mies?

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He's been a thing for years

edgy shale
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i knew of him but i never watched his stream

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its like the lowtiergawd of wow

safe heart
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how many sexy bitches does he have tonight

hushed sand
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So, I have been playing Resto and am going to make the transition to Boomkin. I am hoping to continue using the Necrolord Covenant with Circle of Life and Death. Can anyone tell me how good/bad this setup is?

green valve
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Might be decent at patch

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Theyre buffing necro to 35% right?

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For boomie

chrome panther
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it'll still be bad unless the meta slows down enough for lsd2 to actually be good.

green valve
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Oof theyre kinda obliterating divine toll

clear pulsar
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Boomie necro is already 30% compared to other specs' 20%

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So like

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30 to 35% not that big a buff

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It's pretty scuffed but boomie is a solid base spec to begin with @hushed sand

chrome panther
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lol apparently the multi-proc delay on the divine toll conduit is 0.75 seconds between each spell

green valve
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Thats so butt cheeks lol

chrome panther
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ret back to being wheelchair redacted class its meant to be

green valve
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I just got mine geared lmfao too

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Back to the bench

clear pulsar
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You're kapping if you think this means ret will be bad

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Final Verdict buff is ridiculous

green valve
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Its rough to play man

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Your butt cheeks are clenched the entire time

chrome panther
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already barely see any above 2600

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the ones I do see get clapped

green valve
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210 ilv health just ping pongs up and down

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Literally sweating bullets the entire time

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At least on boomie i can jump in bear and feel somewhat safe lol

clear pulsar
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@hushed sand I'd just play a regular setup without thinking too much about the necro spell. Altho keep in mind it does buff Fury of Elune, so maybe you can craft Timeworn Dreambinder and play regular stuff AS Fury into 5 surges.

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Yeah yeah the poor underdog ret palas can't catch a break

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You ain't getting any sympathy from a feral player doggy

green valve
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Tbh fuck em

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Lol

edgy shale
chrome panther
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Now we just need absurd destro buffs and we can return to the same meta we all know and love

edgy shale
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good, i need fewer bops in my games

hushed sand
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@clear pulsar Thanks for the info friend!

winged glade
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Hi guys, i'm pretty new to druid and I noticed that I can see max 3 buffs in the party frame. I saw that some youtubers had up to six buffs. Anyone knows how to fix this?

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Playing resto atm

clear pulsar
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There's some script you can run on a macro or something but

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BigDebuffs does it too

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And you should prob have BigDebuffs regardless

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BigDebuffs being the addon

tiny oar
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bigdebuffs shows 6 ya

winged glade
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i have bigdebuffs

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but i didn't find anything about buffs in the bigdebuffs configuration

clear pulsar
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It's a check box on the first page when you type /bd

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'Increase Maximum Buffs'

winged glade
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Ohh!! Thanks!

tiny oar
winged glade
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ty all 😄

fathom oxide
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how much better is kyrian for balance

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rather than nf

edgy shale
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its not that much "better" strictly, but its much more consistent is why

clear pulsar
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About 4.3% better

fathom oxide
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thats a fair chunk

edgy shale
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lol r u joking

fathom oxide
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fair is subjective

clear pulsar
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He read what I said

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And he thought

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"This guy is serious"

cobalt flare
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Dreambinder or Balance of all Things as night fae?

blissful belfry
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Default choice is Boat for NF, dreambinder for Kyrian. Depending on your playstyle preference, both are viable for both covenant

tepid spoke
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they nerfed sac

edgy shale
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facts

vocal horizon
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question; should I replace my vers enchants / gems with haste on my Booomie pvp gear? currently (without this weeks conq item) have 31% vers and 17 haste. Bit unsure if haste should be around 20 at this point.

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we're talking 4 gems and 2 ring enchants 🙂

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would be going down to roughly 29% vers but going up to 20 ish haste

lime light
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super minor

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if u play properly u gonna win no matter in which stats u put that gems/enchats

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just remember after 30% u gaining less stat

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also u are disgusting maw farmer

vocal horizon
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Haha haven't farmed the maw at all xD 1 of the gems is from a mythic piece, dropped with socket.

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Alright, I'll leave it as it is then. Yeah I know I get diminishing stats after 30%, that's why I wondered aswell.

stuck beacon
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would it be more worth to make legendary helm even tho i have master/vers pvp helm over replacing my haste/vers gloves?

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to have more stats since helm gives more

edgy shale
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@clear pulsar WHY DO warriors keep hitting me thru evasion

rugged pagoda
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any big pvp boomies here ?

lime light
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overpower cant be dodged

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and condmen is a spell

edgy shale
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wait

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no way

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evasion doesn't dodge condemn?

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does cloak then?

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also i have no idea wat to do against ret pallies

edgy shale
lime light
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condemn benefits from sky fury so ye

rugged pagoda
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Is the crit legendary bis or the starsurge dmg one

edgy shale
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thats the kinda thing u can find in the pins, but generally boat aka crit one is considered best for NF, and dreambinder for kyrian, but both are really good, just preference. at the highest levl of play kyrian+DB prob better, but convoke is insane at all levels, just gotta play with it a bit differently the higher u go

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@rugged pagoda

stuck beacon
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how tf do u beat people that just pillar as boomkin

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and how do u beat double boomkin as a boomkin

edgy shale
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lol thats the weirdest question I think I've seen. the 2nd one. when it comes to getting pillared boomkin is prob the best against it outta all the casters

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ur burst is literally instacast and u have mobility out the ass for a caster

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well, mage exists, so 2nd best

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cc them or use ur mobility to position urself

stuck beacon
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well just went against double boomkin as boomkin hpal

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they stop convoke and just pillar any damage

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then bear conduit + frenzed any damage i did

edgy shale
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if they are just running around in circles pillaring you, they can't be pressuring ur paly too hard. just look for goes by having paly stun then go from there

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u should prob take bash into that i think

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they don't have many ways to stop convoke

stuck beacon
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he was going oom

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and complaining saying "kill someone"

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when the second boomkin was doing no damage and just offhealing

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and i did as much as the other one

edgy shale
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going oom how? if they are just running around pillars and one is just healing. sounds like a classic case of the afk healer

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a healer in 2s can't just say "kill sum1" and expet ut o do it alone

stuck beacon
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Dunno he was going oom and complaining about it

last basin
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meh convoke is utter shit the higher u go

stuck beacon
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was only in 1600 roflmao

last basin
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the kyrian burst with dreambinder is great

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its instand and u dont need to bait 3 thousand things to use it

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instant*

edgy shale
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facts, having convoke is nice for RBGs tho. ppl will expect u to have it, and u also need NF if u wanna pve. so kyrian is better but NF is def an option

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kyrian mildly better

last basin
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nf is definitely playable

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but in 3s u need ur whole team to play around it

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if u ask me u are actually in need a holy pal or a prot

edgy shale
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ehh, thats exaggerating. if u are playing with decent players, they will know how to cc for ur convoke as much as the enemy will know to ttry to interrupt it

last basin
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yeah but as a kyrian boomie ur burst is all istant casts

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also starlord is so nice too

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well literally im talking just for preference

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after i played both i think kyrian is the better choice

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but nf is fun af when it gets through

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and nf is also insane in rbgs

edgy shale
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ya its just preference

last basin
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yeah sorry im a bit butthurt from facing comps with 2 shamans

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literally unable to convoke

edgy shale
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no i feel that. i main feral and im stuck w/ convoke for pve and there's matches where i don't touch convoke for so long cuz i just can't setup opportunities. I almost wanna just press it for the hope of the first 2 spells being crit bites / the mastery proc

last basin
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i gave up on nf pvp and made a new dude just to be kyrian

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not my best choice

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but hey i liked it so much

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i m never gonna touch the nf dudu in pvp again

edgy shale
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ya kindred spirits is a lot of free dmg with a super low cd

last basin
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u pump hard every one minute

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also the pot is a nice touch

lime light
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daily reminder that the game is fine and well balance

last basin
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is that a judgement flying?

bitter harness
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they're making changes to that, right?

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more delay between judgments from divine toll

last basin
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u cant delay the 20k verdict tho

bitter harness
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TRUE

lime light
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ye it was divine toll

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if they nerf divine toll imo ret is fine

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just still top tier melee

bitter harness
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I kinda wanted to try venthyr hpal but divine toll is so nice to press

lime light
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but thats ok for me

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rn the rng is too big

bitter harness
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yea true

lime light
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u can randonly die every 1 min just to one button

bitter harness
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divine toll is either huge

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or ok

lime light
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wings should be scary

edgy shale
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mini wings is annying

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u kite the acutal wings, ten they randomly get a proc of mini, and 1 shot u when u dont expect it

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thats my issue wingswise

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"wahhh we need vision of perfection in shadowlands wahhhhh" why do they get it? it was super fun for destro

lime light
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renown 35 is around 800 hp

random nexus
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new to balance, is haste or mastery valued more after vers?

junior plover
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Meanwhile incap roar still dodged by evasion

pine hatch
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so my dudes there was some talk of cat eye coming in and taking over with bloodtalons in 9.0.5 - what's the deal with that? and is it still... on? even with the small relative nerf on PTR?

junior plover
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This is a hill i will die on

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@pine hatch cat eye got buffed?? MasteryStackers

edgy shale
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wait, i think i asked but i forgot what el patron said

junior plover
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Not nerfed

edgy shale
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does claok dodge it then?

lyric ocean
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They nerfed the buff

edgy shale
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and it got nerfed on ptr

pine hatch
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well it was going to increase to 35% now it's down to 30%

junior plover
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Ah

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I mean BT Curio is already decent

pine hatch
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and im not sure.. what exactly is the point of that and if it will have any major consequences

junior plover
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The 5% won't make or break it

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The necro buff is probably the real contender for new spec

lime light
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bt is only good in 2s, if u wanna play bt moonfire

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vs hpal arms

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otherwise FF is just insane

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even i hate it tho

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thats the truth

junior plover
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GET HIM

lime light
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Feji plays every game FF

random nexus
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tyty, had heard something about the kyrian WQ trinket that was on-use mastery being reallllly good, but maybe that was pve

junior plover
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I think he said he only runs ff in 2s but

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He's necro now

lime light
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just trying to jebait pleb

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to play bt

junior plover
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No way

lime light
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u need FF

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in this meta lso

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for maim

pine hatch
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if necro

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do you have to run draught?

junior plover
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Ye i think FF is absurdly good

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Circle actuslly

lime light
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maim into FF bite thats it

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your job done

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kyrian before

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thats it

junior plover
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But draught could come into play too

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Yeah

pine hatch
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hrm

junior plover
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Or even bash into 2 bites with ff

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Way too good to pass

lime light
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draught is the lego that your st bleed

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is stronger?

pine hatch
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yeah

lime light
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dogshit

junior plover
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Yes but it's only rake rip moonfire

lime light
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how can u play it

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if u wanna play bleed

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u need to multi bleed

junior plover
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U only bite the other guys

lime light
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FB spam will be always better in st

junior plover
pine hatch
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also can someone explain to a new feral why moonfire isnt affected by mastery

glad cosmos
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Hi! i would be curious, what i should do vs warriors/retr comps as a feral druid? 9/10 games my partner just blows b4 i can make anything

pine hatch
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whats the point of that skill

lime light
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the only lego i could see is the one that makes your bleed ticks faster

junior plover
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Moonfire is not a bleed

pine hatch
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i know but why wouldnt it be included somehow

junior plover
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Because reasons

lime light
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cricle with bleed build maybe

junior plover
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Sadly

lime light
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and u bleed everything

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u go full haste

junior plover
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Well tony already played necro jungle last awc

lime light
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for energy regen

junior plover
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Into arms x Hpal

lime light
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and u play the condult for rip

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energy

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thats it

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and spam bleedurs

junior plover
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So I can only imagine circle necro will be good af

pine hatch
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how did that go kiosk

junior plover
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They got to top8

pine hatch
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the awc necrobleed

junior plover
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Where he stopped using it

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And they won 1 series in top8 losers bracket

pine hatch
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and went kyrian?

junior plover
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And NF

pine hatch
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hm!

junior plover
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Both

pine hatch
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interesting

junior plover
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They were basically ooming the Hpal arms comps as jungle

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Which is wild

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Also circle = faster heal ticks

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Resto affi buffs

lime light
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FR is also stupid

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the condult heals

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to full when it procs

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with decent versa and condult for freanzy

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but my honed is still 184 ilvl

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imagine a chad with 226 ilvl

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lmao

junior plover
lime light
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its gonna be like 55 sec

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or so

junior plover
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Less

lime light
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what

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no way

edgy shale
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mine is 213 i think and its 1 min

junior plover
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200 is 54

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Wat

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Is mine 213?

edgy shale
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wait lemme double check

junior plover
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It's 54 for me

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Or 56

lime light
junior plover
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WAT

lime light
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200 is around 63 i think

junior plover
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It scales so fast wtf

edgy shale
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ya 213 is 1 min

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60 sconds

junior plover
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Wait wat

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How did I get a 220 then

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Lemme check

lime light
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so ye it will be like 58 or 57 sec

edgy shale
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there is no such thing as 220

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ur just on drogas

junior plover
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I don't have a 226

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Something's up

lime light
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so not every condult can be 226?

edgy shale
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what

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every conduit can be 226, but 220 doesn't exist for any conduit

junior plover
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Turning on my pc

lime light
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ye

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iam talking about 226

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how do u get it tho

edgy shale
ebon vortex
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every conduit can be 226

junior plover
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I guess my brain put my barkskin cooldown in place of frenzied

lime light
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the stygnia guy?

ebon vortex
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You just have to farm maw for it

edgy shale
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stygia guy or mythic CN

lime light
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there is too many of them to get it from stygnia

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XD

junior plover
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They're removing the stygia thing

bitter harness
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I need 11 more for all 226's

junior plover
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In 9.1

bitter harness
ebon vortex
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you can get 1 every other day if you cap daily

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and an extra one weekly

junior plover
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Both sockets and conduirs

edgy shale
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actually nevermind, fnrenzy one doens't drop from CN, only innate and ursine

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226 ursine is from mythic sire

ebon vortex
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as a druid it sucks because we have 4 specs tho lol

edgy shale
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imagine killing sire and that drops

junior plover
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Tbh

edgy shale
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ya grind for durid is bull shit

ebon vortex
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frenzied one is from plaugefall

junior plover
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I made a massive blunder

edgy shale
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ya that means u can't get it 226

junior plover
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By putting balance and resto conduits

edgy shale
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except stygia

ebon vortex
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yup

junior plover
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Into my thinf

edgy shale
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u hvae to

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the stygia thing will just create them ifu dont have

junior plover
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Ah

ebon vortex
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It's kinda dumb you cant get some conduits past 200 without using the Stygia thing

bitter harness
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yeah it is

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conduit upgrade system is the dumbest thing theyve ever done

edgy shale
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kicker is u can only have 1 in ur bag at once

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run back n forth like a literal monkee

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in the middle

junior plover
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Yep

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There's 0 reason for them to be unique

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And they still are

ebon vortex
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I tried to be smart by buying 10 of them, deleting them and then item restoring them all at once

junior plover
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That's the dumbest part

bitter harness
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I should get two today

ebon vortex
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which backfired horribly because you can only item restore one at once

ebon vortex
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so for the past like 5 weeks I've been item restoring on reset lmfao

lime light
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ok i was 1.3sec off

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my prediction

junior plover
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Ok I'm

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Monki brain

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Officially

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I was thinking of barkskin cd with the barkskin conduit

lime light
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lmao 56.3 sec for that

junior plover
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I think

lime light
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it will be nerfed

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in later patches

ebon vortex
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I don't think support would be happy considering i tried exploiting the system and it backfired lmao

lime light
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its too op

edgy shale
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yeah

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100% el patron

lime light
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i think 60 sec is max

edgy shale
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cuz next patch it would be like 30 seconds

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and thats wayyyyy too busted

lime light
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shouldnt go below

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maybe it should be stronger or w/e

junior plover
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It should be 20s imo

lime light
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i mean it already tops me

edgy shale
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psychopath

thorny aurora
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I just want baseline ironbark already

lime light
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but ok for feral is one thing

junior plover
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Just mindgames it 4Head

lime light
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oterhwise feral is super sqish

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but imagine

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it for rdru

edgy shale
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yeah

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way too broken

lime light
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after buffs, and when meta slow downs a bit

junior plover
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It's busted for rdru and balance

lime light
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and ucan play tank lego

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u cant die

junior plover
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100%

lime light
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its all over again

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the bears come back

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the one from legion

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joe fernandes will lose

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all his hair

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again

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poor guy

thorny aurora
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quick question if allowed: how much vers do you want as a healer for PvP?

lime light
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30%

junior plover
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100%

edgy shale
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if i see a druid i basically understand that ill have to kill it 3 times

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1 for WHI, one for actual frenzied, then kill it again

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kill the beast

lime light
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and after that a pod

edgy shale
junior plover
#

I stopped training balance druids in 2s

#

i cant be bothered

lime light
#

thats getting bop'ed

junior plover
#

just kill the healer

edgy shale
#

the more tilting thing is when they don't evne waste a bop

#

just a raptuire pw:s

lime light
#

what if the healer is a resto with tank lego

edgy shale
lime light
#

and 226 rng honed

junior plover
edgy shale
lime light
#

what if u dont leave stealth

#

till 100% dam

#

p

junior plover
edgy shale
#

purple thing spawns el pa tron remember

#

prob u know how to play around that shit

junior plover
#

It doesnt matter

#

on most arenas

#

you can still hide

#

the purple thing is so bad

#

its laughable

#

especially since u get cat speed

edgy shale
#

cat speed makes every other class almost unplayable

lime light
#

i havent played proper 2s since 3 months

#

is it only venthyr arms?

thorny aurora
#

DAMN I WANNA LEARN TO HEAL PVP NOW CRAFTING A TANK LEGO SEEMS FUN

lime light
#

this days

edgy shale
#

yea im seeing more and more venthyer and less kyrian

thorny aurora
#

Kappa

edgy shale
#

mash condemn strong

junior plover
#

but yeah arms + hpal/hpriest/disc/rsham/rdruid

#

ww+pala/priest

#

rogue mage

thorny aurora
lime light
#

i dont mind ww

junior plover
#

mage priest & rogue priest

#

thats about it

lime light
#

i dont mind other classes, but hpal arms ret

#

unwinnable

edgy shale
#

ya ww acutally dies, their offhealing is patetic

junior plover
lime light
#

and if i win i still lose sanity irl

junior plover
edgy shale
#

nice

junior plover
#

last upgrade

lime light
#

thats rly good

junior plover
#

officially done with mainspec vault

#

fucking 15,600 hp

ebon vortex
#

a well geared and good venthyr arms is fucking terrifying

junior plover
ebon vortex
#

they do so much damage it's insane

lime light
#

i still dont have full 226 gear, cuz cba farming honor

edgy shale
#

that 3% buff was so fucking pepega man

#

not cool blizz

ebon vortex
#

why they wouldn't remove it in pvp is beyond me

junior plover
#

i play so much arena im constantly honor capped

lime light
#

and btw

#

idk i u know that

ebon vortex
#

apparently it's getting a buff in PTR too lll

lime light
#

but condemn is nerfed in arena

junior plover
ebon vortex
#

lol what

#

and it still manages to crit for like 12k with 213 ilvl

edgy shale
#

imn gonna lose my skull if war doesn't get nerfed

#

ret is annoying, but war just makes me upset

#

they dont die

lime light
#

ye idk if its just execute nerfed in arena so the condmen also

#

but condemn is nerfed

#

at least what tooltip says

ebon vortex
#

condemn is also scary since its shadow damage

#

which makes it hurt even more than normal executr

junior plover
#

I dont even care about ret

lime light
#

condemn does less dmg then execute on paper

junior plover
#

its unhealthy af the way theyre designed

lime light
#

vs non armor target

junior plover
#

but arms you just feel hopeless against

lime light
#

around full geared leather is almost the same

junior plover
#

it feels like theres nothing you can do

#

to beat a good arms warrior

edgy shale
#

yeah its complete helplessness

#

they don't die

#

and they don't stop chunking u ever

#

for one second

junior plover
#

yep

#

they follow you behind pillar for 10s with their healer on the other side of the map

#

literally no one cares

lime light
#

the fully geared venthyr warrior can do almost same healing/sustain as ret 😄

junior plover
#

they keep hitting 10k condemns on you as their healer is drinking

lime light
#

with ignore pain on cd

#

and condemn

#

ok i checked the condemn again

#

and now its the same

#

last time i was testing it

#

like month and a half

#

condemn had around 10%~~ less dmg in tooltip

#

in arena

lime light
#

now its the same

junior plover
#

Imagine if

#

while buffing them 3%

#

they accidentally

#

removed

#

that

#

nerf

ebon vortex
#

and then you also have the utility of arms lmao

junior plover
#

Arms should deal 20% less damage

ebon vortex
#

war banner, shout, spell reflect, intervene

junior plover
#

and they'd still be top tier

#
  • Arms warriors now deal 20% less damage
  • Intervene cooldown doubled
  • Die by the sword damage reduction removed
#

Arms still top tier

ebon vortex
#

lol yeag

#

so much utility and damage

lime light
#

iam happy when warrior is playing overwatch

#

and trying to get a trap

#

with intervene

#

so he dont have intervene for his partner

#

when we land cc

#

KEKW

#

warriors brain

#

biggest jebait

ebon vortex
#

imo every class should have spell reflect

lime light
#

lol

#

not rly

#

😄

ebon vortex
#

just because it's fun

junior plover
#

imo arms should suck a fat dick

ebon vortex
#

lol

junior plover
#

But i dont even lose to them that much anymore

#

now that i queue with holy priest

#

but i swear to god

#

every other game

#

i will clone one just to buy time on my cds

ebon vortex
#

holy actually good?

junior plover
#

everyone is full hp

#

and they will trinket

#

2.3k mmr

#

these guys with a brain of a 10yo child

#

facerolling to glad

junior plover
ebon vortex
#

huh

junior plover
#

80% priests are holy

#

in my last 3 sessions

ebon vortex
#

guess I'm too low to see that

junior plover
#

might be

ebon vortex
#

every preist I see is disc ~1.7k

junior plover
#

I think like 2 weeks back holy started getting really popular around 2.1k+

#

and now it's like completely taken over almost

#

but idk leaderboards still show 4x more disc

ebon vortex
#

just remember greater heal spam from BFA lol

junior plover
#

they might just log out as disc after their 3s or smth

lime light
#

Can't be touched
Can't be stopped
Can't be moved
Can't be rocked
Can't be shook

fluid elk
#

guys do you think balance/arms/disc comp would work at all in 3s? on around 1800 cr?

junior plover
#

You can play anything arms/x/heal with good success up to 2.1k or so

edgy shale
#

Lliterally anything in the game with arms disc works

#

guaridan druid

junior plover
#

boomie arms is alright but the disc is off

edgy shale
#

anything

fluid elk
#

thanks, was worried about the comp, now I feel more confident about it!

balmy vortex
#

wait, is crit actually better than haste for ferals

#

that's what the guide says but im asking because i just got crit/verse shoulders but both wingbal and tony are wearing haste/verse shoulders

edgy shale
#

A little bit of haste is nice for clones. also tony does circle build sometimes so he has haste for that maybe

junior plover
#

Early on in the season some people said haste>crit

#

they might be looking for a specific amount to pair clone with something

edgy shale
#

yea, for incap roar into clone

#

it can be super annoying if a war gets a spell reflect off at the last millisecond cuz ur missing .01% haste

#

or some other combo i might not be thinking bout

lime light
#

Just go full crit

junior plover
#

Incap into clone only needs like 2% haste

#

if even

#

might be sephuz incap into clone

lime light
#

With all the mods u can do big dam if it crits

#

Its enough haste from wpn

#
  • maybe one item
#

That cant be mast

junior plover
#

actually

lime light
#

Rn i have shoulders boots and wpn

junior plover
#

you need exactly 3% haste

#

for incap into clone

lime light
#

I will swap one of those

#

Iam 4% i belive

junior plover
#

i'm 2%

#

not like this

edgy shale
#

i lost a lot of haste when i got my 226 badge

#

i used my 197 so long

junior plover
#

actually

#

just gotta hit 2.4k and get the wep

#

and i'll be 3%

#

SAVED

edgy shale
junior plover
#

officially bis stats

#

dont fight it

edgy shale
#

thats baby crit

junior plover
#

ofc

#

its only on non mastery pieces

#

and u need 1 haste piece

#

for incap clone

#

also no lotp

edgy shale
#

ya i have low vers and too much crit cuz i have to use some pve gear

#

like 26% crit 24% vers or something

junior plover
lime light
#

I dont remember

junior plover
#

actually if the wep upgrade wont put me in incap clone range

#

i'll be malding

lime light
#

17% crit i belive

edgy shale
#

u guys run some baby want ur little bottle ass stats

junior plover
#

feels bad to not crit anymore

#

but this is the way

edgy shale
#

heh. never

lime light
#

Also is that me

#

Or back in the ddays

#

When u purged Alter time

#

Mage was going back to original position

#

When he pressed alter

#

Its not a thing anymore

junior plover
#

Cant remember

edgy shale
#

ass is theo nly thing that gerts garrotie right?

junior plover
#

yeah

edgy shale
#

silence is nicee

junior plover
#

id play assa

#

fuck being a setup bot

edgy shale
#

thatswat im doin

#

so much dmg with dots

#

like wat feral should be

#

i still like my feral more, but this guy is super fun

#

also i'v said like 10x in the last week, orc is privilledge the likes of which im not used to

junior plover
#

my hands are too boomer for rogue triggered

#

or it might be my brain

#

and im not even a boomer

edgy shale
#

u can dam near switch buttons 1 for 1

#

ass nd feral

junior plover
#

yes but they gotta go fast or smth

#

and like

#

target shadowsteps mid go

#

to reapply cc

edgy shale
#

ass doesn't hvae to do anything that crazy, u don't get shadow dance so u can only do wacky stuff once every 2 mion with vanish

#

ass is acutally rogue for boomers

#

cuz im boomer too

junior plover
edgy shale
#

im still bad to the degree im sure i don'te ven know how bad i am, but its def easier than sub

#

thats for sure

#

mfd is super fun

errant blaze
#

Anyone here has toons on both alliance and horde on eu and know if its easier to lfg on horde? Seems it allways take a long time to find healers for 2’s on alliance in the 1.7-1.8k bracket

tepid spoke
#

80% playerbase is horde

#

Thats for na and eu

errant blaze
#

Ok so thats a yes then. Thank you 🙂

edgy shale
#

this paints a picture of how this arena match went

brave shuttle
#

@errant blaze there is always a ton of Dps Lf healer on eu horde. I’m not sure it will be that much easier, especially with human and NE being ally races

lyric ocean
#

I don't know why, tried leveling an assassination rogue... Just felt so weak compared with leveling the feral 😂

#

My brain definitely can't work em out

wise valley
#

because one is an underpowered bleed spec and one hasnt been a bleed spec for like 7 years

edgy shale
#

yeah rogue leveling ain't great, but ass def does have some nice bleed dgm

shadow creek
#

Any news if Necro will be viable for Ferals in next patch?

#

Pvp ofc

lyric ocean
#

I'm hoping so. I keep looking forlornly at necro and bleeds. And then I go and convoke someone in PvP. Definitely not going to be an easy switch 😂

#

Would help if the legendaries for a bleed felt more useful 🤷🏻‍♂️ Chuck feral frenzy in on that 40% DMG and I'm in 😂

junior plover
#

Tony played necro feral jungle into some matchups all the way until top8 in AWC

#

I believe tony or bean also said necro is probably the strongest 2s spec for feral right now

#

if u wanna play a bleed cat just do it

lyric ocean
#

What Lego did he play with? (Honestly don't keep up with much awc etc lol) I'm just in the market to make one tonight or perhaps next week

stray sigil
#

@junior plover im off that joint not necro anymore

#

i do think high cr 2s i cant play bt in most matchups

#

its better in 3s in general imo

edgy shale
#

u make me sick

stray sigil
#

listen to me

#

game sux not my fault

bitter harness
#

hate the game, not the player

stray sigil
#

fax

broken kettle
#

Hey boys, someone can tell me which legendary we should use as gardian in rbgs and why please ?

bitter harness
#

legacy of the sleeper because it makes you immune to CC for 30sec

junior plover
#

its nasty how good it is for extending a go

civic raft
#

Hi, I only play pve and want to focus on pvp (rbgs) now with moonkin. Does anyone have a good guide for someone with zero knowledge of rbgs and moonkins?

blissful jackal
#

Hey boys, I'm currently trying to learn how to play Resto PVP

#

When playing vs Ret & WW I usually just get blown up before I can do anything, is there any cheeky thing I'm missing apart from popping all my defensives on myself and hotting myself up?

wispy token
blissful jackal
#

I'm playing with Fire Mage, I will keep that in mind, we are still trying to learn/figure out stuff, thank you! :)

wispy token
#

U both stealth and get a good opener then, get the upper hand

#

Fire mage not the most viable comp for a resto tho..

#

But just cc the monk and kill the ret pretty much

#

U dont share dr’s so

scarlet pelican
#

Hey guys does starsurge have casting time ? Or like is instant ? I have 90 AP and I'm on eclipse can I cast 3 starsurge in a row one after the other or is there any casting time delaying it ?

tall knoll
#

Global cooldown is a thing... but its instant

analog granite
#

feral pvp be like

junior plover
#

Why are filthy owl spells up there

analog granite
#

transference lol

lyric ocean
#

Only 11k thorns. Pah amateur hour 😂

remote swan
#

hello alll new to this discord ive been looking and cant really find it which legendary is best for resto pvp

blissful belfry
#

verdant infusion if i recall right and the pick hasnt changed

#

its also going to be buffed in 9.0.5

#

safe bet

#

(for arenas)

remote swan
#

is it better on the hands or shoulder?

green valve
#

Dont think it matters theyre the same stat pc

remote swan
#

ok ty

forest moss
iron briar
#

26% vers btw

teal hinge
#

Bear form barksin leggo woulda survived

blissful belfry
#

15% buff inc on final verdict leggo

#

if i recall

junior plover
#

I'm pretty sure they're adding a delay between judgements tho

#

or smth

green valve
#

Yea

#

Like .75 per

junior plover
#

Is there any way to read JUST the recent ptr changes?

#

I hate the way wowhead does it

#

where they just slap it in the same post

#

Oh i found it

#

i was reading the wrong post i guess

blissful belfry
junior plover
#

On divine toll

#

the conduit

blissful belfry
#

only thing i saw for divine toll was a rewording to say ''up to''

#

nothin about delayin the hits

#

but i might not be up to date

junior plover
#

It was a later bluepost

#
World of Warcraft Forums

Added these new Covenants updates for today’s build: Covenants Necrolord Fleshcraft has been redesigned – Form a shield of flesh and bone over 3 seconds (was 4 seconds) that absorbs damage equal to 40% of your maximum health for 2 minutes. While channeling, your damage taken is reduced by 20%. Passive effect – Moving near an enemy’s corpse ...

#

he extra spells from Ringing Clarity (Kyrian) now have a longer delay between hits. Additionally, area-of-effect Judgment hits from Divine Toll are no longer reduced by 25% in PvP, and Judgment triggered from Ringing Clarity is reduced by 25% in PvP.

blissful belfry
#

oooh nice

#

fuckin nice

junior plover
#

Additionally, area-of-effect Judgment hits from Divine Toll are no longer reduced by 25% in PvP

#

wat

blissful belfry
#

actually really really nice

#

its fine

#

the aoe judgement arent the one who hits

junior plover
#

Oh I guess

#

the AOE was reduced by 25%

#

but main target wasnt

#

so now its gonna happen 25% slower

#

deal 25% less damage

#

poggies

blissful belfry
#

ya

#

and Judgment triggered from Ringing Clarity is reduced by 25% in PvP.

sacred path
#

I suck at arena but at least I aced my inventory 😂 1436 ....- 1400 here I come !

blissful belfry
#

so it happens slower and does less dmg

#

good fix

keen sinew
#

Hey so a little off topic but has anyone had any success with bears in arena? I am thinking of trying to run it in 2s or 3s?

junior plover
#

You can run a meme HOTW Balance affi Convoke bear

#

with the Sleeper legendary

#

Other than that, bears are 100% worthless

keen sinew
#

Oh that is interesting. I don't have that lego but that is something to think about

junior plover
#

It makes it so that you can't be CCd during it

#

If they dont have a kick or youre playing with a pala with aura mastery or whatever

#

you can just get big boomie convokes in their face

mystic sparrow
#

7 ilvls, BoAT, the survival conduits have made me a ton more survivable. Now to just learn how to handle rogues that have all their CDs.

blissful belfry
#

press bear form

#

thats it, u did it

#

No joke. if you pre-bear form their stun, there is nothing in this world the rogue can do to kill you by himself

mystic sparrow
#

but i'm not exactly killing him in bear either...

blissful belfry
#

you ask how to handle a rogue who has all his cd

#

not how to kill a rogue who has all his cd

hushed bluff
#

You track kidney and combo points and pre bear the stun

blissful belfry
#

Do you have omnibar to track his kidney cooldown

#

You dont really need to sit in bear 24/7, but if you know his kidney and all his cd are ready, you should try to get in bear before he stuns you

hushed bluff
#

Yes

worldly kettle
#

boy it is a nightmare getting skirmish wins as a healer

blissful belfry
#

The thing with the majority of players is that they ABSOLUTELY HATE to hold their cds and their goes. If they got their storm bolt ready, or their kidney etc, theyll wait for you to go human 3sec, 5-6 if they are patient, but then theyll bust it

worldly kettle
#

nobody tracks combo points though

blissful belfry
#

Dont track combo, track kidney cooldown

worldly kettle
#

yea

hushed bluff
#

I track it.

worldly kettle
#

I don't even know how you can track it

hushed bluff
#

An add on

worldly kettle
#

seems a bit much, I think the kidney cd is a good enough indicator

hushed bluff
#

Whatever works I guess

lime light
#

Imagine if that was u

#

How many egirls u could get

sinful canyon
#

Dear fucking lord

lime light
#

That many ?

#

U think so

sinful canyon
#

Swimming

lime light
#

Nicu

sinful canyon
#

I cannot imagine being funneled that hard

covert talon
#

Do we want to stack as much vers as you can as balance in rbg?

lime light
#

Sure

tardy hare
#

anywhere anyway

forest kite
#

what is priority stat for guardian pvp ?

covert talon
#

And is guardian affinity + hotw worth to spin a flag or not?

tardy hare
#

no

#

hotw kinda useless

#

guardian aff good tho

covert talon
#

then mass root I guess?

#

for insta root+beam?

tulip falcon
#

best patch note

#

so far

blissful belfry
#

mass root is always nice to piss of mass of people. esp with beam

covert talon
#

Great

#

Do you build deeper roots for extra piss?

brave shuttle
#

Think they are different spells

#

Like in torghast

covert talon
#

wdym?

#

In pvp talents I'm running the guardian thingy, moonkin aura and deeper roots. But thinking on high winds / feari swarm

brave shuttle
#

Nvm. Works on mass roots according to wowhead

covert talon
#

Yea it does, tooltip says so

blissful belfry
#

you could run it

brave shuttle
#

In torghast the roots abilities don’t work with massroots. So you can’t just pick « roots does c damage every second » and massroot à pack

covert talon
#

oh now I got you

clear pulsar
#

But it's cuz torghast is new

#

And prob a low priority

#

For dev time

brave shuttle
#

Betalands

radiant ether
#

Hi guys! i saw rbg guardians with 2 different legendaries and i cant find information about that spec in pvp. TNOW or legacy? i thing TNOW is more for flag carrier and legacy for def a flag or zone right?

tardy hare
#

legacy for everything

waxen birch
#

Hey everyone, so im making my 1st horde Druid and I'm so torn. I prefer Resto but with the meta on RBGs im playing Balace. Because i RBG, i prefer Night Fae over Necro which is way more arena for me.

My Question:
Which race given i do Resto and Balance, Tauren or Troll ?

Also am i correct in saying Beserker should be use prior to Resto Convoke but post Balance convoke

mystic sparrow
#

which nameplate addon do y'all recommend?

#

kui vs plater vs threatplates

junior plover
#

Did EU just die?

radiant ether
#

troll nf rbg

#

i think both are good

#

berserk dont affect channeling haste

waxen birch
#

but the hots it applies ?

potent plaza
#

can i catch up renown via skirmishes?

junior plover
#

Not sure but I played 500 rated or so and only got 1 renown

#

so even if you can

#

youd need to play like 2k

radiant ether
# waxen birch but the hots it applies ?

haste increases the tick rate of most of the player's damage over time and heal over time effects. Spell haste also reduces the length of the global cooldown for spells and some melee abilities.

#

so yes, haste do more ticks in the same duration of hot/dot

stiff zodiac
#

whats the stat prio for feral pvp

#

vers mastery?

stray sigil
#

vers > mas > crit > haste

stiff zodiac
#

ty

#

we still play symmetry as feral right?

stray sigil
#

no haste pretty awful

#

u can do

#

sym, skin lego, curio or like apex

stiff zodiac
#

what conduits do i take for feral pvp

#

i crafted the symmetry legendary

#

and what soulbind is recommended

stray sigil
#

what covenant are u

stray sigil
#

ur russian not polish

tardy hare
#

Tylko jedno w głowie mam
koksu pięć gram odlecieć sam

stiff zodiac
stray sigil
#

nyia best soulbind

#

do conflux + taste for blood for the potencies

#

and well honed for ur endu

remote cave
#

🙂

visual sedge
#

Which is better for pvp balance or feral for arenas ?

stray sigil
#

u will have an easier time playing boomy over feral

stiff zodiac
#

kk thanks

stray sigil
#

but both are equally fine

stiff zodiac
#

what pvp talents would u recommend

stray sigil
#

this spec

#

i am using

lime light
#

They all ok for na ladder

#

In eu max 1500

stray sigil
#

no i dont sweat hard enough for r1

prisma pawn
#

What comp are u playing?😊

stray sigil
#

survival jungle

pallid coral
#

Bro fuji

#

this mog

#

is legit hideous

stray sigil
#

dude why

#

are ppl sayuing that

#

i look PRIME

pallid coral
#

ur cracked

#

its hideous

stray sigil
#

listen blue mogs are hard

#

on leather ok

pallid coral
#

?

stray sigil
#

i cant let this tabard of frost go to waste

pallid coral
#

ok wait

stray sigil
#
  • i think the top looks kidna cool
#

with the robe thing on the legs

#

idk

pallid coral
#
  • ur tabard of frost
stray sigil
#

u are cracked

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that is so bad

pallid coral
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????

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its so much better than urs

stray sigil
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THERE IS NO WAY

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the gloves are so bad

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the legs are 0 res

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nop nop

pallid coral
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bro ur legs are teh same res smh

stray sigil
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listen they are prime legs for sure

pallid coral
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they're from the same xpac

stray sigil
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listen to me

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u cant understand the genius of my mogs

tardy hare
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Guiltyas looking like he's lvl 30

stray sigil
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its not for everyone

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pallid coral
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also why the fuck are you back night fae

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can u pick a covenant or

stray sigil
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i cannot no

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its not possible

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i need to change weekly

pallid coral
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lmao