pvp

[deft tapir]

Also <@&114146878353833984> just ban em

[primal bane]

just startred playing paladin first time ever

at 180 ilvl

we got 1.4k in like 2 hours or smth

no gear either of us

[surreal heron]

that wasn't a necessary mod ping

[primal bane]

and another pve player could not let me live 30 seconds from opener

[vast vapor]

rekt

[primal bane]

i have no comprehending of how this works, like pve players straight up dont know they have buttons

but thas so far besides the point just put solo q already wow is the last game still stuck in 2000's

[deft tapir]

People just blasting r*pe and then purposefully using an anagram isnt mod worthy

[vast vapor]

rofl

[deft tapir]

Fuckin cringe bud

[split bluff]

it's just words

don't let them offend you too much

[vast vapor]

how do you play wow man, no chat?

[deft tapir]

Yeah the n word is just a word, you don’t know how they’ve affected people dude.

[surreal heron]

the original messages were already deleted, filter was updated, a mod ping is to get the attention

i suggest you drop the subject

[deft tapir]

Sick moderation lol

[stray sigil]

[vast vapor]

actually funny

[edgy shale]

LOL

ui waited 0 seconds

[paper solar]

bring back 5v5 for the memes

[stray sigil]

u get so little for winning though

[primal bane]

they dont do that glyph so pve players dont make pvp players get multi 4k rankings

[stray sigil]

how much would u get for a loss

[edgy shale]

the word literally got added to banned words like 15 seconds ago

[stray sigil]

like 5?

[primal bane]

but honestly, you can have wins that dont even give you CR, so i think its fine

[edgy shale]

thats why its funny

[stray sigil]

ya im just saying

needs to be a lower number

[primal bane]

id absolutely love this

[split bluff]

match unranked players by ilvl and give each 100pts per win so they get up quick if they can outplay ppl

not hard to implement

[deft tapir]

It does feel hard to get conq while undergeared

[primal bane]

5 cr per 1-2 mins

[stray sigil]

ya but we get 25 per win

LUL

[fathom oxide]

how did u get dota into this discussion btw

[primal bane]

vs 20+ minutes for 15 which is the current rate

for undergeared players

[edgy shale]

i mean, conquest cap takes 5 seconds to anyone who's actually playing the game

conqwuest gains only matter for alts / new players

[stray sigil]

its a lot of 2s still

[primal bane]

@fathom oxide solo q cant work in wow bc wow has team comps and other games that doesnt matter much

[stray sigil]

if u do rbgs its like instant

3s is like ok ig

[edgy shale]

its al ot of 2s, but there's no way ur not gonna play enuf 2s in a full week

[primal bane]

that was roughly what was being said

[vast vapor]

it always 50% winrate even with bad gear

[fathom oxide]

dont see why it wouldnt work, if u have seperate ques and seperate metas for it

[vast vapor]

just drop rating

[fathom oxide]

wouldnt hurt anyone

[primal bane]

pvp definitively does not have the playerbase for this many new queues

[edgy shale]

that could split the playerbase to the point u can't find good matchmaking in any Q...

[primal bane]

but solo qn eeds to be tried at the very minimum

[edgy shale]

and it will dumbdown the game

[fathom oxide]

litterly 1 extra que for people who doesnt have friends

[edgy shale]

ya, that's for sure

[stray sigil]

ppl are overblowing the "i cant find teammates in lfg" tbh

its rly not that bad

[primal bane]

its rlly THAT bad

[stray sigil]

unless ur like pisslow 800 cr

or in the high end

[primal bane]

i fully pugged my way to 1.8k, it was not enjoyable nor fast

[fathom oxide]

its for people who wants to mindlessly grind

[edgy shale]

full agree, like world pvp is fun, but i don't get why u can't do instanced content w/ opposite faction. its been like 20 years, the war can end goddam

[vast vapor]

Ive been thinking about that merge too, would love it

[primal bane]

i played hundreds of games

i think 500+

[edgy shale]

it just fucks players over who wanna play the race they wanna play

[primal bane]

and genuinely the way you pug prgoress

[paper solar]

i wanna be nelf but all my friends just had to be horde this xpac -_-

[primal bane]

you sit for hours with shit teams that leave after 1 match

[vast vapor]

and you already can queue bg opposite faction

[primal bane]

then u finally get 1 good team

then you hit a wall, repeat

[edgy shale]

i would love to be nelf for pvp, but ain't no way im playing ally while actually trying to raid / do m+

[primal bane]

its fucking terrible

[fathom oxide]

if they made crossfaction people would rage and stop playing cuz its not my 'world of WAR craft'

[primal bane]

not rage but it kills the flavour

[edgy shale]

imagine playing a goblin or vulpera tho. u know wat u have to play as right? lol

[vast vapor]

yeah..

[edgy shale]

its no good

being forced to play mechagnome

[paper solar]

@edgy shale i'm w/ u. i do like horde better.... but as a druid player i prefer nelf 😦

front flips and shadowmeld ftw

[stray sigil]

jmorph

[fathom oxide]

why cant be be druids?

they are basicly same race

[edgy shale]

ehh, i thought the point was NElfs get power from da tree and BE get power from da well

well no do druid

tree do druid

[stray sigil]

gimme ud druids

and ill die happy

[fathom oxide]

well well well..

[edgy shale]

☀️ well

[fathom oxide]

elf is litterly just another word for addict

[tiny oar]

vulpera druid when blizz

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

[inland light]

Anybody playing balance affinity as guardian for owlvokes

Trying to work out talent build, new druid

[surreal heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282986412624838666/809835006263820339/8f8bb9bab4a10d4517b062e1af268e87.png

[true folio]

does the high winds pvp talent as boomy reduce healing too or just damage?

[inland light]

You taking bash over HOTW?

Seems mega meme to pop into moonkin pop that and convoke

Pretty much rolling this

NOT for arena, just for bgs

[pallid berry]

n00b question. I just hit 1427 rating. If I keep playing RBGs for more honor, but lose and go below 1400, will I lose the 207 gear in the GV?

[twilit siren]

is it /cancelaura horde flag and /cancelaura alliance flag?

[empty field]

for somebody new to pvp would you guys consider fire mage or boomie to be easier to get the hang of?

[edgy shale]

u don't lose the gear in the GV, but u lose the ability to upgrade other gear next week

[pallid berry]

thanks. good to know

[edgy shale]

[weak hinge]

@vestal citrus are u nf or kyrian btw?

[edgy shale]

he pves u goofer

[weak hinge]

kk

i dont like PvE anymore except for m+ so i might go kyrian

[tiny oar]

CRANK

[bitter harness]

maybe I should've made my 2nd druid kyrian

[edgy shale]

necromemer?

[karmic hemlock]

Why is kyrian good for pvp?

For balance that is

[bitter harness]

big dam

big go every 3min, smaller go every 1min

w/ dreambinder legendary and the kyrian cd

and phial for survival

[hardy solar]

Might be the wrong place to ask this. Does Orc racial and relentless trinket stack?

[candid moth]

it doesnt

[junior plover]

Sephuz and orc does tho

Sephuz orc warriors/wws can be fucking brutal lol

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil your power compels me, savant.

[junior plover]

Kyrian has a very fast playstyle where you're constantly setting up your next go which is only 1 minute away

[edgy shale]

fuji is a true savant of the game, man

[junior plover]

Convoke has a methodical playstyle where you work on trading trinkets/kicks/defensives to set it up

Just play what sounds more fun to you

They're both good

[edgy shale]

having a go every min is more fun imo btu grass always greener aint it

[candid moth]

I tried both and I like Kyrian a lot more

[junior plover]

I am really enjoying Kyrian right now but I remember how much I enjoyed a well set up convoke

[candid moth]

Convoke can just feel so random and disturbed by a lot of stuff. Also killing with it feels so cheesy

[junior plover]

Like I'd literally have these convokes i did pop into my head before bed

Like a dopamine rush

Kek

[edgy shale]

convoke is the biggest bites possible

which is awys appealing

always

[junior plover]

That is true

But Kyrian is massive organic bites

[edgy shale]

20k bite on command, or ability to get 23k bite? 3k damage is life

[candid moth]

the 3k more comes from the 50 mastery diff?

[junior plover]

5% more from conflux than Kyrian

And mastery diff

[candid moth]

ah right, forgot about conflux

[edgy shale]

pelagos gives 350 mastery?

[junior plover]

The mastery diff is bigger i think since Pelagos is nerfed by 50% in pvp

I don't remember how much he gives

But it's like 150-200

[edgy shale]

bro why is shit always coming up when ppl be hitting 1800. like my 2s rating was in the dumpster cuz iw as playing w/ a RL friend trying to boost him. we win like 8 in a row and his friggen son wakes up the second he hits 1800

[junior plover]

Overall comes out to like 15% smaller bites

[edgy shale]

im babyraging

is there a babyrage emote

[junior plover]

[edgy shale]

[forest kite]

his son probably woke up earlier and he was neglecting him until he got to 1800

[candid moth]

I mean, he might be afraid that he wont reach that point again soon

and wants to upgrade his gear

[junior plover]

[edgy shale]

ya, but we won 8 in a row lol

ride ther train until a loss at least

[edgy shale]

and ya this could be true also lol

im enjoying curio tho. its so nice to go outta form to throw off heals or a clone or whatever, u pop back in and its just so much energy

if u get some lucky CCs its literally just nonstop shred bites

[junior plover]

I wanna try it but Kyrian symmetry makes berserk so stronk

Idk

[edgy shale]

the power of kyrian

[half kraken]

Thinking about switching to Kyrian. Whaat legendary is better with Kyrian ? Timebender or BoAT ?

[edgy shale]

DB, ya

timeworn

info in pins, they are updated

[loud wedge]

i just swapped to kyrian for night bae...am i stupid for thinking i was ALOT more tanky before?

[edgy shale]

u get phial now, so yes? idk. were u running pod or somtin

[loud wedge]

i have whi now..only lacking ir

and now i die in less than 5 sec

with 31% vers and 39k hp

im insta dieing to fucking 30k hp monks

[edgy shale]

maybe soul shape was doing a lot for ur kiting and ur not used to playing w/o it? idk

if u don't play w/ WC maybe try using it now

[loud wedge]

wc?

[edgy shale]

wild charge

[weak hinge]

wild charge deffo needed for kyrian

[loud wedge]

it is?

[weak hinge]

well depends

[loud wedge]

i feel like i reaaally need renewal

[weak hinge]

kiting is better than healing for 30% most of the time

especially when u can abuse Z axis

[edgy shale]

z axis is pog

[weak hinge]

mugambala travel form wild charge is BAE

[edgy shale]

420 spin no scope their asses

lakerz should write a guide on how to juke

@tiny oar

[junior plover]

When I swapped from NF feral to Kyrian i felt more squishy too

Probably just placebo

Because you're adapting to the new playstyle

You aren't putting as much thought into positioning and rotating defensives

That's my guess anyway

[edgy shale]

i think its cuz of the 4% stam u get thru renown

that must be it

[junior plover]

That too

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

4% is a lot to be fair

[edgy shale]

its something yeah

[loud wedge]

but i mean...30k hp monks melt me in 5 seconds

40k hp monks didnt do that pre switch

rip

thanks guys

[shadow creek]

How much of a Disadvantage am I in for arena if I pick NF rather than necro for Rdruid? I main Feral, but need the gear

Trying to get 1.6 as a 205ilvl feral druid in LFG is hard

and it'll be at least another 2 weeks till I get my conquest polearm

[junior plover]

Pretty big and it'll only get worse come 9.0.5

But you can get to 1.6

With convoke rdruid

[shadow creek]

Thats quite annoying. Considering necro isn't decent for Feral in comparison to NF and Kyrian

[edgy shale]

i mean the madman tony has run it in tourney so it can't be that awful

[bitter harness]

just go feral/balance then

[shadow creek]

Can balance be played without the legendary then?

I'll need to farm that then..

[vernal arch]

I think it’s a 100% drop chance on layer 8 right?

[shadow creek]

nah, as in need to farm soul ash

[vernal arch]

Ahh, yep that sucks

Just got my Druid to 60 a few weeks ago and made the 225 version

[edgy shale]

of boat?

[vernal arch]

Yeah

[edgy shale]

i made pulsar cuz it made sense on the slot and i thought i wanted to do m+. so cringe

[vernal arch]

I made it on the Legs for the main stats. I’ll try Feral when I get enough ash to make another probably

[junior plover]

Wat

where was tony necro

[edgy shale]

he did circle necro in awc early rounds

i think even once in quarters

[junior plover]

oh damn

yeah im telling you

9.0.5

kitty cleave with necro feral

will be HUGE

[edgy shale]

yea ive seen ppl talkin' bout it

we will have to see wat changes go thru

[junior plover]

yea it was me im the prophet

[edgy shale]

facts

[junior plover]

Even if necro arms is nerfed 50% in pvp

which i would assume it will be

i think venth arms with necro feral will make for good kitty cleave

Soo

I'm remaking my UI completely

how do yall track bleeds

looking for suggestions

[tardy hare]

With my eyes

Mostly head

[junior plover]

Sure but bigdebuffs overlays my bleeds

I want it nice and clean and visible

[tardy hare]

I just look at target

[queen holly]

Are they visibly bleeding? If yes, then bleeds are still up

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

Actually i have some thing above nameplate

Idk what it is

[junior plover]

I had Plater & a snapshot tracking WA from when I did pve

but i figured

time for them to go

[tardy hare]

Idk cba weakauras for bleeds

They do 0

And will do 0

[junior plover]

The WA is good but its too much clutter

Hmmmmmm

[fathom oxide]

kyrians are the hufflepuffs of wow
change my mind

[tiny oar]

I guess ur not wrong huh damn

[junior plover]

Whos Gryffindor then

[fathom oxide]

uggghh, prob venthyr

[junior plover]

Kyrian is obviously Ravenclaw

raven = wings = kyrian

OBVIOUSLY

[bitter harness]

so raven

[fathom oxide]

wait

[bitter harness]

[junior plover]

Slytherin is obvious

And I do feel like Night Fae would enjoy being Hufflepuff

Did we do it reddit

is there a way to move the hover tooltip

without moveanything

[bitter harness]

tiptac

[junior plover]

noice

cheers

[bitter harness]

nps

[candid moth]

moveanything would be such a great addon if it wouldnt be for the lua errors

[junior plover]

yeah

Is putting numbers on the unit frame a blizz ui thing or an addon

i neeeeed it

[fathom oxide]

think its a blizz interface

btw try whoa thickframes

[junior plover]

damn they THICK

[junior plover]

ah I see its just bugged

had to tick from both to something else

and back to btoh

at least 4 years and counting

[junior plover]

@vestal citrus is there a way to have combo points on both personal bar and also above enemies with plater

i dont see an option to put it on personal bar

[half kraken]

So what is ur opinion on new moon for lower bracket? Looks fun. Or why is it not viable?

[tulip falcon]

tellmewhen is a good buff/debuff tracker

like 10x easier to set up than weakauras

i use it for dr tracking as well

[clear pulsar]

You can set plater to show on target's and then have a tmw/wa anchor to your personal bar @junior plover

[clear pulsar]

I use Diminish for dr tracking in bgs or open world

Super nice

[tulip falcon]

ah yeah I know of that one

I just like to use a small amount of addons where possible so if tmw can do it I just use that

[bitter harness]

I like to use way too many addons

[clear pulsar]

RBG brain can only count to 5

That's why they always call out 'A LOT COMING BS'

If it's more than 5 they just can't fathom it

[junior plover]

[bitter harness]

pets, standards and totems count - right?

[junior plover]

BIS BINDS

[slim robin]

[sleek nimbus]

what are people currently playing for "defensive" feral legendary? or just fearful symmetry?

[clear pulsar]

1 thru 5 @junior plover

[junior plover]

I was 1-4 earlier

but button budget is tight

had to do this to drop ctrl+... as a row

[junior plover]

The Natural Order's Will

[tardy hare]

WHERE IS RAKE STUPID KID

[junior plover]

rake lost to thrash

[tardy hare]

Wtf

How is rake not on 2

The correct order

[junior plover]

Brs is 2

obviously

[tardy hare]

Is shred, rake, FB, rip, TF, BrS

[junior plover]

Yeah the most pressed one should be last

[sleek nimbus]

👍

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

Yes

[fathom oxide]

i have shred on scroll and slash on shift+scroll

[unreal jewel]

Rake on e

[tardy hare]

E is prowl

[unreal jewel]

Prowl is 1

[pallid coral]

Prowl is 5

1 is rejuv/moonkin form

[pine spear]

prowl is ctrl + b4

[turbid jolt]

Prowl is c for me

[tepid spoke]

U are all wrong prowl is shift f6

[turbid jolt]

Lmao

[fast vale]

X

!

[turbid jolt]

I use a macro that is on c. Cat form if not in form, prowl if in cat form, leave prowl if already prowling

So I have to double tap it but i prefer it that way

[tepid spoke]

So you dont go from caster into insta prowl?

Ew

[turbid jolt]

I can

With another key

[tardy hare]

1 is shred obviously

[turbid jolt]

As Feral i am mostly in cat already

1 is regrowth

` is ff, then reg, rake shred bite brs thrash

Rip is the only sad attack without a basic button

[junior plover]

What the fuck

[turbid jolt]

Unless I'm in pw which goes to 5 over brs and swipe is a shit bind

[unreal jewel]

Shred is q

Goddamn this is why you're not r1

[turbid jolt]

I still haven't gotten around to moving strafe to ad

I think my head would explode

[haughty compass]

Prowl is Ctrl 3

[fathom oxide]

scoll is bis rotation

[unreal jewel]

I can't imagine not having ad strafe

[haughty compass]

Scroll is dispel

[unreal jewel]

I did that before level 2

[turbid jolt]

Too many years not doing it for me

I just bind shit to ad

[fathom oxide]

what if u have to strafe left and use q

[turbid jolt]

Instead of qe

Why would i have to use q

[unreal jewel]

For shred

[fathom oxide]

someone had shred on it

[unreal jewel]

??

[turbid jolt]

Lol i don't

I think movement wise i like strafe qe but action wise your get more out of moving them

[junior plover]

what is going on

[tulip falcon]

i have cat form on e

and prowl on shift-e

[clear pulsar]

Just strafe on a d

[tulip falcon]

i dont even have strafe bound i just use a and d as normal and use my mouse

[clear pulsar]

Q is shred

[turbid jolt]

I mostly use mouse but interchange and movement is so ingrained I'm not touching it

[tardy hare]

Bro, cat form is Q

[unreal jewel]

F2

But close

[tardy hare]

Wtf

F2 is unbound

Dummy

[unreal jewel]

No that's f12

[tardy hare]

No f12 is shred in stealth

[potent plaza]

do you guys use ctrl in your binds?

[unreal jewel]

No that's also q

[tardy hare]

Ctrl 1-12

12 being = i think

[unreal jewel]

Ctrl and shift modifiers

[potent plaza]

how do you even reach =?

[tardy hare]

Mouse

[potent plaza]

oh

[unreal jewel]

Macht has unusually long fingers

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale yup i am

[tardy hare]

Yes

[bitter harness]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-drive-funny-middle-finger-long-finger-gif-14276095

[tardy hare]

Thats me but mine doesnt extend

[potent plaza]

i can't stand a heavy mouse

[tardy hare]

Its like that perma

[bitter harness]

if it lasts longer than 4 hours you should consult a doctor

[tardy hare]

Im just built different

[potent plaza]

assembled alternatively

[tardy hare]

Right hand and arm wields insane power

[clear pulsar]

I use all keys with all modifiers

Alt arena1, shift arena2, alt arena3

[bleak geode]

What job does a Boomie do in RBG's?

[golden dagger]

kill people

[clear pulsar]

Lol

[foggy ravine]

starsurge people

cap bases

[placid mirage]

Mass root teams

Cyclone healers

[placid mirage]

Changed loot spec to guardian got 226 weapon for offspec fc pog

[junior plover]

guardian over feral

how dare you

[simple wind]

guys why do ppl hate on convoke boomie right now? i here ppl everywhere saying kyrian is much better in arenas

kyrian is like consistent every 1 min burst but i dont think convoke is bad either

[balmy vortex]

it depends on setup

i have to imagine in something like that 3.1k fdk+hpal+boom setup they play convoke

its too good for what dk does

should i be waiting for energy to build for double ferocious bite?

[knotty torrent]

can you hit glad doing only rbg ?

[balmy vortex]

you get the same gear rewards but im p sure titles at least are different for rbg

so end of season rewards might be too

[knotty torrent]

it's more about the 226 gear

[balmy vortex]

ah

yes

absolutely then

[knotty torrent]

i'm playing guardian

Perfect

[placid mirage]

@junior plover true now my wep can carry me as feral

[still crystal]

is boat or dreambinder better for kyrian moonkin? I see a mix on the ladder

[foggy ravine]

you can get elite weapons from rbgs (2400) but not the glad mount, thats from 3s exclusively. rbgs has hero of the horde title instead of glad

[clear pulsar]

Glad is 3s title

[junior plover]

My Holy Priest is 1v1ing a Rogue for like 10 min now

[half kraken]

Who asked

[tardy hare]

fuck off monkey man

[junior plover]

Bro

not cool

[half kraken]

Sorry I've been watching Nick for too long i guess PepeLaugh

[lime light]

everyone calm down in my property

[tardy hare]

what did you just say patron

huh

wanna have a go

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-nope-gif-10535329

[junior plover]

I played 7 holy p today

2 disc

wtf is going on

people caught on

[placid mirage]

holy op

[junior plover]

it really is

[placid mirage]

Gets a stun

And immune

[junior plover]

Man the stun feels so good to play with

since i can just train the kill target

[placid mirage]

Meanwhile disc waddling across the map into a hoj

"Ok I'm fearing, oh I have to sit This"

[sinful canyon]

Can you not hit glad in 2s?

[lime light]

no

[outer wraith]

Does full tree Dreamweaver make her more appealing for balance than Niya, or is it always niya for balance pvp

[teal hinge]

The mastery after convoke is big

[outer wraith]

Figured, ty

[errant panther]

Hey balance people in here, do you play soltice or fuy of elune for RBGs ?

[gleaming spade]

for balance, is vers a better dmg increase stat wise than mastery?

[grand crown]

@errant panther i play fury

helps with flag spinning and stuff

plus a giant laser beam scares people

[errant panther]

to focus down a target or because it's more dmg in general ?

well yeah that's fair : D Giant lazorz tend to have that affect

[grand crown]

yeah its a mental thing, someone has a beam on them they're running around putting them out of position

so I got a bunch of vault stuff that was mastery instead of haste

is it okay to split some mastery

or should I be hard stacking haste?

[junior plover]

I lost to a furry warrior today

[clear pulsar]

[molten lynx]

best resto legendary for arena?

[gleaming spade]

what pvp talents you guys be takin in rbg?

[tardy hare]

this is what i run atm

[fathom oxide]

how do i get my convoke to do stuff as balance

[junior plover]

[junior plover]

U gotta talk to the angel guy in oribos

and tell him

yes i wanna change covenants

[austere shard]

Can anyone help me with answering if Necrolord is viable for MK's in PvP? Thank in advance.

[junior plover]

wtf is MK

[austere shard]

MunchKin.

[junior plover]

[austere shard]

Exactly.

[junior plover]

What is a MunchKin

feral affi balance?

[austere shard]

A cute cat.

I actually meant Moonkin. You know, the large Chicken-like form?

[clear pulsar]

You mad lad actually run shadow of the colossus?

[clear pulsar]

Define viable

[tardy hare]

IDK HOW TO PLAY THIS CLASS

i just picked some random shit

[clear pulsar]

It's decidedly wekaer than kyrian or night fae

[tardy hare]

and charge

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

I don't really see any strengths for necro boomie sadly

their dots tickle

[junior plover]

I know that much

[austere shard]

Well, will it work and will it work good or awful?

[haughty compass]

The pressure is ok, but people just dispel it

Kyrian / night fae just way better

[lime light]

BALD GNOME

[clear pulsar]

For what tho

Like

[austere shard]

But can you not say that about most abilities? I (as warrior) usually have luck with kicking convoke.

[clear pulsar]

Are you trying to duel, open world pvp, arena, random bgs, rated bgs

The spell does something yeah!?

It does sooome damage

It's aight

Like balance is a good base spec

[austere shard]

For arena, sorry.

[clear pulsar]

You can achieve any rating cutoff for ilvl rewards

As necro

It's just weaker

Probably not in 2s actually that would be cursed

Convoke just wins you some games you shoulda lost sometimes

[austere shard]

Yeah, but is it not likely to be nerfed aswell? And does it not also sometimes do close to nothing?

[clear pulsar]

I don't think it'll be nerfed

And I don't think night fae being nerfed would mean anything for necro boomie

Kyrian's arguably already the best rn anyway

[austere shard]

Also with Necro you have the Fleshcraft. The blue fox does not really do anything as Druid, does it?

[clear pulsar]

It does the same as for every other class

[austere shard]

Yeah, I know of course, but being a very mobile classe, will you no use it less?

[clear pulsar]

Depends on the game, it's a nice spell to have

Fleshcraft's only really impactful if you can abuse ultimate form

[austere shard]

At this point it just seems I am trying to convince myself 🙂

[clear pulsar]

I think it's Rudar that has a vid on yotuube running necro boomie

[austere shard]

Gonna look that up right away.

Thank man!

[clear pulsar]

He runs this setup with like, deep roots and the root dot pvp tlaent

It's hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFMBZdAJ4b0

[austere shard]

Perfect, I'll do that same! 😉

[clear pulsar]

If it goes to shit you can always justify it to yourself that you wanted to play resto anyway

[austere shard]

... and if everything fails, I guess I can always go Resto. Necro seems like the choice on that spec.

[clear pulsar]

JINX

[austere shard]

Haha 🙂

Thank you for your help, mate. Much love and appri.

[clear pulsar]

Also necro is getting a buff next patch

[tough meadow]

Yo dudes, what's the go to covenant now for boomy in pvp?

A lot of high rated players are kyrian now it seems like, but kyrian is so boring...

[molten lark]

Hello, as a rdruid, I'm using mainly Mighty Bash in RBG to stun players who harass our healers backline, but I was wondering if Mass Entanglement would be stronger in RBG?

[solemn sierra]

Cyclone those same players. Mass entanglement is essential for our silence harass of enemy healers. Root + beam locks them under the silencing beam

You could also hard cast a root on them, bearform wild charge them, or swap if they are over extended

Oh as Rdruid*

@molten lark I still like mass entanglement as Resto Druid for the control and peel.

[molten lark]

Yes, I don't have the silencing beam, The downside of cyclone is it's a cast, so i'm not able to cast it 100% of time and worst case, i'm silenced for a few seconds. I'm definitely not using wild charge as a bear, I should try to use it more. I will give a try to mass entanglement 🙂

[junior plover]

Both NF and Kyrian are good

just play what you like

[solemn sierra]

@molten lark I just think RBG value of mighty bash goes down due to it being a single target and the likelihood of stuns being on some sort of DR plus the cooldown is pretty long. Try the mass entanglements, ursol’s vortex, and bear charges to see what you like best. Keep in mind, you can incapacitating roar + cyclone hard cast ... baiting a silence or cs into that is worth if they do interrupt you

[molten lark]

@solemn sierra will do, thank you very much for your feedback o//

[coarse epoch]

Any rbg bear guides? Thinking of boosting one

I am 2500 on my warr and need a new challange

[stray sigil]

idk if id call rbg bear a challenge

blame o aswell

if they kill to slow

[still carbon]

So for resto pvp what are people taking, trying to decide between Circle of Life and Death and Oath of the Elder Druid, i mainly Resto PVP, but occasionally Boomkin, and i have the Balance of all things for my boomkin

[clear pulsar]

Neither of those

[still carbon]

well then what are they taking?

[blissful belfry]

they take verdant infusion in 2s or 3s. Or at least they used to

[still carbon]

RGB

RBG

[blissful belfry]

idk bout rbg

[rustic arch]

guys will convoke hit targets that are feared/incapped?

[blissful belfry]

i didnt know people invite anything else than disc and hpal in rbg

[blissful belfry]

no

[clear pulsar]

Mother tree in rbgs @still carbon

[still carbon]

i already have mother tree

[blissful belfry]

convoke will not target people whoa reaffected by breakable cc. The only thing that will hit them is thrash if you are in melee of them

[kindred dragon]

People will take rdruid if you are sub 1400 😆 I know well from personal experience

[teal hinge]

Rdruid so easy to kill

[hoary ledge]

is druid still a meme in bc regarding pvp / arena performance?

I know rdruid is great

[junior plover]

Yeah pretty much only restokin

[hoary ledge]

Feelsbad

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar how much will i regret going necro

[clear pulsar]

The only downside is having to do campaign and renown catch up bro

[stray sigil]

fleshcraft looks so insane next patch

i was thinking of going necro right now so i dont have to catchup later

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I don't think there's any chance fleshcraft makes it live like that

Idk bro just do it

Necro LI circle is a blast

[stray sigil]

i dont think i would circle

doesnt seem to be doing anything really

still think bt curio could be the play

not quite sure about LI yet

i would have to play with it but losing 25% dmg on bite seems too big

[junior plover]

wait until it actually goes live lol

not only is it 2 months away

it might not even go live like this

[stray sigil]

are u sure its 2months?

[clear pulsar]

They said end of march

[stray sigil]

hmmm

i mean what would they revert

even withyout the 30% damag rdeuc

its still an insane spell vs some comps

[sudden cypress]

Which one can carry a noob irl partner? Feral or Balance (2v2)

[stray sigil]

prob boomy

[hoary ledge]

I carry my irls all the time, boomy is the way

[junior plover]

I think 30% will not make it

maybe 15-20

[stray sigil]

bro

[junior plover]

still sounds good but not as good

[stray sigil]

thats still pretty insane lol

[junior plover]

yee

[sudden cypress]

interesting

Thank you

[stray sigil]

i wish u could test out abilities

like when ur 50 and u get to choose ur cov thing

u can test them

why not always have that shit available

i wanna see how swarm actually feels

[surreal elbow]

know what really would be nice?

[sudden cypress]

and which one has more comps, boomy or feral?

[stray sigil]

if cov were part of the talent tree ?

[surreal elbow]

yes

[hoary ledge]

boomy definitely more comps

[stray sigil]

@sudden cypress prob boomy

[sudden cypress]

Nice thanks guys

[stray sigil]

feral kinda stuck with like 2 comps atm

[surreal elbow]

so i could play both kyrian and fae

[stray sigil]

just wish itd be part of the talent tree

so u could switch

depending on what u face

[surreal elbow]

exactly

[clear pulsar]

9.2 is double legendary, 9.3 is pick 2nd covenant.

[stray sigil]

hey ur playing vs turbo and ur gonna train healer all game

ill go nf

jk shit game

[clear pulsar]

Idk bro I'm at peace with the covenants the way they are lol

[junior plover]

[surreal elbow]

im not at peace cuz somwtimes i want kindred spirits and sometimes i want convoke

kinda sadge life

[clear pulsar]

Yeah sometimes I wanna play feral sometimes I wanna play warrior

Like that's the idea right?

[blissful belfry]

Im at peace because sometimes i want convoke and sometimes i still want convoke

[stray sigil]

uh

covs def feel like they could be part of a talent tree

not sure why ur comparing like 2 classes

a bit weird

but then again

u are f2f

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

dreamgroves personal idiot

[junior plover]

I think covenants are fine

but if necro feral is good next patch

im gonna be torn

[clear pulsar]

Idk you're the one being a lil bitch

[stray sigil]

i think it could be decent

[clear pulsar]

Just live with it bro

It's the game we play

[stray sigil]

no

u

[clear pulsar]

Necro feral is the future

[stray sigil]

ya but ur fake

u kept talking about necro

and never went necro for more than 3 hours

donkey

[junior plover]

I think

Kitty cleave with feral necro

[clear pulsar]

My horde druid's been necro for months

[junior plover]

might be bonkers

[clear pulsar]

????

[junior plover]

9.0.5

[clear pulsar]

I just hate doing chores on more than 1 character bro

[stray sigil]

yup not main

fake

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

Altho by then

warrior might be unplayable

[stray sigil]

good one

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

Feral spr

It is known

[junior plover]

I like the sounds of feral spr

why does no one play that

[clear pulsar]

LI SR BT Circle FPS

[stray sigil]

feral sp just sounds like u live

[clear pulsar]

BIG pog

[stray sigil]

but never do anything

atm

[clear pulsar]

Which is 2 steps better than jungle

Where you don't live and never do anything

[stray sigil]

[junior plover]

I mean just kyrian feral

with spriest

IT MUST BE GOOD

it must be so good

[clear pulsar]

Yeah with an rsham or a rep hpal

You have inhuman cc chains on healer

[junior plover]

fuck rsham outside of melee cleave

shitty ass spec

[clear pulsar]

Nah bro

[stray sigil]

i dont think rsham shitty what so ever

if anything

[clear pulsar]

Double hybrid rsham can do so much dam

[stray sigil]

itll be so insane soon

[clear pulsar]

Purge like hell

And spammable hex

[stray sigil]

hpal nerfs every other week

[clear pulsar]

Is actual pog

[stray sigil]

rsham never touched

they already dont go oom/cast

[clear pulsar]

Trouble is finding an spr that wanna play with feral

[junior plover]

Man that'd be my favorite comp to play ever

Plz give shadow priest

[stray sigil]

feral aff gonna make a comeback

mark my words

but feral sp is my fav comp in 2s

[junior plover]

nah feral aff sucks

every time a rdruid spaces us in 2s

we cant do shit

every rdruid thats feral affi

eats all the cc

and sucks balls

[clear pulsar]

Feral + aff lock

Idiot

[stray sigil]

kiosk more like

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

dum fok

[edgy shale]

everyonr laugh at him!!

[stray sigil]

[small storm]

can confirm

[heady geode]

Lol any1 else seen rudar's vid using dreambinder?

He slams like a baws O.o

[junior plover]

[junior plover]

fuk you

idioit

[stray sigil]

$report

[last owl]

This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

[junior plover]

Stop

[stray sigil]

thyme about to come in with the whip

gg ez

[junior plover]

Thyme about to laugh at yo ass

for saking on my balls

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

[edgy shale]

wait why r u talking about wild spirits?

[junior plover]

I still dont know

what u meant by that

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

oh cuz

he asked what willy plays

as a covenant

and i told him nf

[sudden cypress]

Goddamit the most viable pvp race is tauren, but they are ugly 😦

[stray sigil]

and that wild spirits does like 800 dmg

[clear pulsar]

What do you think 'most viable' entails?

You can get 3k as zandalari

[sudden cypress]

Less sucky

lmao

Yeah i will go with aesthetics

[junior plover]

ah ye that makes sense

[clear pulsar]

Tuaren not even that sick

[sudden cypress]

I will go with the best casting animation (Since i dont want to be a birdy boomy too)

[junior plover]

stop with this stupid u know exactly what he meant

[willow zenith]

Do the 197/200 variants of the pvp proc trinkets share the same ppm?

[clear pulsar]

I imagine its similar to using the same weapon enchant on mh and oh

The buff id is the same for both

Honor and conq version

@willow zenith

[willow zenith]

ah that's a shame, cheers

having some horrid luck on trinkets, oh well.

[clear pulsar]

As what spec

The agi darkmoon deck is pretty decent I think

[willow zenith]

Restoration, the 197 performing better than most 200 trinkets according to qelive.

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I told voulk that the pvp proc trinket was way better uptime than QELive's score for it suggested at the end of BFA and he never updated the values

Good to see it values it highly now

[blissful jackal]

How much better is necro pvp resto compared to night fae pvp resto

[clear pulsar]

About 4.25 better

[blissful jackal]

👀

I'll take it

[untold sierra]

hey, just got the xpac and planning on feral pvp- is Night Fae still the right choice for covenant?

[primal bane]

is worgen racial as bad as it sounds?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah night fae's good, kyrian is good too @untold sierra

[honest mesa]

Anyone using cancel aura for frenzied regen (especially thinking about the auto frenzy from conduit) when you face priests with mindgames?

[clear pulsar]

Yes

I pressed mine twice!

[honest mesa]

Feel like mindgames is hella big but it might seem worse then it is coz i haven't been doing that

Just realized

[edgy shale]

I've gotten butt fucked by FR exactly proccing mind games exactly once

so i don trelaly think about it, ya wat these guys said

like the tick of FR that hit mindgames + burst made me die instantly

[honest mesa]

Theoretically if mindgames puts you at 39% the self damage is pretty big no?

[clear pulsar]

Unless you're already low when you get hit

[sleek nimbus]

how does NOW compare to oath for feral pvp? like double dps 2s?

oath looks broken if my calculations are right, like 10.5% reduced damage at all times if you go guardian aff? unless it doesn't work that way

[honest mesa]

They both sound solid but I'd probably go now. Haven't crafted any def legos yet tho. Too many specs too little soul ash

[clear pulsar]

Oath isn't a 10.5% dr

It's a 4.8% dr

NOW is just straight up big time better if you can go bear form before you barkskin

And imo still better if you only go bear form for the FR after barkskin ends

Oath is not in your control exactly

It has a set icd and triggers whenever you go bear yeah!? So it'll just proc for no good reason if you press bear to shift out of a root, or just go bear for a second but don't actually wanna trade a defensive, etc.

[blazing shore]

Boomie for Arenas (mostly 2s)... Niya for Grove Invigoration? Or Korayn with first strike?

[clear pulsar]

Niya

By a mile

[honest mesa]

First strike kinda cheese, might win some openers but niya better overall

[blazing shore]

Admittedly, I'm not particularly good enough at boomie to win outside of the first 30 seconds...

[clear pulsar]

First strike is complete ass

Wild hunt tactics if anything is the good trait in the Korayn tree

[honest mesa]

Play more games, best way to improve :)

[clear pulsar]

If you're trying to win on opener, niya is still just better

Cuz of CA/incarn double dipping your surge on mastery

[blazing shore]

Worth running a 184 Instructor's Divine bell over double pvp trinkets?

[clear pulsar]

Only if you have like no vers at all

[blazing shore]

I have a shit load of vers (guardian PvE mainspec)

So I'll give the double pvp trinkets a shot

[clear pulsar]

The set bonus is worth a lot

[tepid spoke]

so i know dreambinder is supossed to be on chest, but wouldnt the vers gain from making it on ring not be worth it?

aight

just got enough for rank 4

[hushed bluff]

my convoke is getting interrupted in a nonhuman like manner. is kick bot a real thing?

like i push the button and the attack doesnt even have time to get off lol

i mean i agree... im feral lol but yea i know... i dont know how people hit it .1 sec later.. only a few times were a red flag

yup

i do lol

its like my number 1 prio

bust and voke red flags

[solemn sierra]

Are there weakauras for enemy convoke or combustion?

[hushed bluff]

ya

google them they are easy to find

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar i think ima go necro this week

smight might hate me

but

worth it

[edgy shale]

bro, do u see ur name and ur icon

and u wanna go FF?

u discust me

[balmy vortex]

Huh
I wonder how much difference there is between r1 and r2 legendaries

Vers wise i guess

Is it like an extra percent?

On the head

[untold sierra]

hey what are you guys doing for an opener for feral in pvp

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale im not going ff

[edgy shale]

isnt it trolling to go necro w/ no ff

[clear pulsar]

Idk tony was playing BT

[stray sigil]

i also wouldnt play circle

that doesnt seem good

[clear pulsar]

So why the fuck are you going necro

not gonna play ff

not gonna play dot leggo

[stray sigil]

i mean the dot leggo doesnt do anything really lol

ill play ff when i play skin lego

but not like im gonna default to ff

[tiny oar]

Play draught lol gottem

[stray sigil]

no shot

draught is def dog shit

[tiny oar]

[balmy vortex]

Huh
I see Snupy doing rake into single cp bleed as an opener
Whats the reasoning here

More burst?

[stray sigil]

he does same opener everygame

rake rip tf zerk ff bite bite bite

[balmy vortex]

Yeah I see that but I wanna know why

[jolly leaf]

Sabertooth

puts 15 seconds onto the rip

[stray sigil]

its 5s now

hes playing tfb conduit

means hes getting some % dmg inc on his next bites

its also the bfa opener

so he prob just has it hard wired

[edgy shale]

he means its 15 seconds cuz of the triple bite

[stray sigil]

and doesnt wanna change

[edgy shale]

i do bfa opener sometimes

its whatever

[stray sigil]

its fine to do

but i wouldnt do his opener everygame

he opens with zerk bfa opener everytime iirc

ig works for him

[edgy shale]

wait he opens wi th zerk every time?

tf

tghat seems dumb

i guess u can't get the bite extension w/o it

i mean ruip

[stray sigil]

havent seen him q much 3s

but every game in 2s

mayeb he doesnt give a fuck about zerk since hes nf not sure

[edgy shale]

facts, I do repeat all the time zerk is the worst 3min cd in the game

[stray sigil]

i do feel like zerk is pretty powerful but eh hes higher cr than me so he must know

idk zerk is fine

maybe not for a 3min cd

[edgy shale]

yeah its fine, it adds a lot, i just compare it to other 3 min cd and its whatever

like infernal

[tiny oar]

Ya it should b 2m fuck it yolo

[edgy shale]

or the enhanc one

isnt that 3 min?

[tiny oar]

Ascendance is 3m ya

[edgy shale]

yeah

like compare zerk to ascendance

[stray sigil]

i dont think ascendance that insane on its own

its cuz of all the passive bullshit enh gets

look at ele ascendance in comparison

its garbo

[edgy shale]

idk really much of anything about enhanc so not sure what makes it so strong, ij ust know they pump like fuck during it

[stray sigil]

its windfury and shit i think

also the stormstrike procs and all that

iirc

[clear pulsar]

THat's not fair tho like

Rake for a cheap builder with no cd does more damage than Slam hurr durr

Those comparisons dont mean anything idk

[edgy shale]

i mean yea, the whole class is what matters not 1 button. i just think in a vacuum zerk is prob the worst 3 min cd unless im forgetting something

[muted edge]

Are there any rbg guides for guardian druid? Like what talents to run and what lego to use?

[grand crown]

Can't find any either but you need two leggos

Legacy of the sleeper

And natural orders will

[tropic schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282986412624838666/809835006263820339/8f8bb9bab4a10d4517b062e1af268e87.png Legacy for usual FC, NOW when incarn is on CD

[muted edge]

Oh okay cool. I have both just need ash

[grand crown]

Pvp talents there's a few that are situational that are useful.

[muted edge]

Alright. I'm main feral but want to play guardian too

[grand crown]

Does incarn CD go back to 3 min if you take the legendary off?

[queen copper]

id assume the cd just starts at 2:30

[lime light]

First of all ascadance is a talent not baseline like zerker

U can compare incarn to ascadance

Most of the enh damage comes from Doom winds

Legendary

Once per minute your windfury gives u Doom winds, every attack procs wind fury and wf does 25% more dmg for 12 sec

Condult gives u a chance to proc 3rd attack on windfury

And can proc from itself

Heroism isn't that big of a deal for enh if u dont line up IT with Doom winds

Ascadance super op also, big dam, attacks ignore armor and they are range

With lower CD on stormstrike

[edgy shale]

ok compare incarn to it then lol

wat is the shaman CD called if u don't atlent it?

u just dont'g et one?

[stray sigil]

na u dont

its on like last row or something on talents

[edgy shale]

thats weird as shit

heroism is ur only cd then?

[stray sigil]

i mean

[edgy shale]

i dont really know how that ubtton even works