Dont hurt enji ipod
#pvp
tiny oar
edgy shale
thats right but some haste is good
tiny oar
DONT DO IT
edgy shale
i dont hurt, i love
mental gyro
i feel like people have addons and macros to stop convoke the first 0.1 second it starts
cinder saddle
Ya I’ve noticed my convoke just gets insta interrupted, it was why i flipped to kyrian
safe heart
Ppl know they need to stop it
mental gyro
any 2s recommendations for balance
safe heart
Paladin
Bop convoke
split timber
Lol but do u know the answer?
edgy shale
edgy shale
i mean u can get sum1s trinket with that
edgy shale
maim sum1 with no trinket and convoke
fast vale
How strong is balance aff convoke for resto?
jovial pine
feral seems alot weaker than balance
edgy shale
edgy shale
yes
jovial pine
my gear is pretty solid, but i went from conquest main wep to honor wep
but goddamn it feels like i hit like a wet noodle
edgy shale
weapons matter a lot for melee the specs are in a pretty similar place for pvp
clear pulsar
You're very likely doing both wrong
Feral's in a pretty nice spot
If you like tiers I'd say Feral's A and boomie maybe A+ just off of better comp diversity
jovial pine
arena-wise mby, but i was just doing a random bg
edgy shale
being ranged tends to feel good in bgs
jovial pine
maybe not
but a great way to try it out when you're not that comfortable with the spec just yet
edgy shale
ya I'd play bgs to get a feel for the spec, but I wouldn't play a bg and be like oh this spec sucks huh
jovial pine
i didnt feel like dying as feral was the issue
i just didnt feel like my bites did any damage
edgy shale
r u waiting until 50 energy to bite and using TF+badge with 5 cp?
edgy shale
I've been running BT lately and on a mage if I have all that shit i crit for 20k
jovial pine
or atleast, trying
edgy shale
non-bt more like 13/14k
jovial pine
bt = ?
edgy shale
well the 4 cp bites u spam aren't gonna be that huge prob
edgy shale
yeah a lot of stuff all adds together
and yeah usually people do run ff over BT, but BT is how u get enormous bites. so idk if u saw people talking about big bites, but thats how u do it
edgy shale
cinder saddle
Yo the salt is real
edgy shale
niya with taste for blood and conflux
wardened
i mean all 3 soulbinds are fine. korayn first strike is a disappointment, but its also some funny potential cheese
jovial pine
why a disappointment?
clear pulsar
Cuz you can't get it from same target more than once
Even if you die like in a bg
You don't get it again
jovial pine
oh shit lmao
edgy shale
just log out
clear pulsar
Dropping combat, dying, none of that resets it
edgy shale
clear pulsar
You have to log out and back in yeah
jovial pine
thats disappointing, yup xd
grand crown
I've been stacking haste vers for pvp but should I be mixing in more mastery stuff too?
lime light
Tell US the spec
edgy shale
hmm haste and vers... im guessing he's assassination?
lime light
Prot
edgy shale
51% winrate. he's climbing.
edgy shale
clear pulsar
Dont mock, homeboy was here earlier took 2k games to get 1.6
Respect the hustle bro
slim robin
Is apex best leggo for feral in arena?
clear pulsar
Why would you buy a boost to 15hundo
clear pulsar
Is apex best leggo for feral in arena?
Not even close lol
Wait he really do be buying boosts @vestal citrus
His druid before updating
THen after
He bought a boost straight to 16hundo then just dropped again the next week
Scary
@slim robin fearful symmetry generally best
lime light
clear pulsar
Cat-eye curio and Apex are ok, Cat-eye is more just nice to play than greatly impactful, Apex is meme and inconsistent but sometimes it can give you some nice back to backs
edgy shale
should i help this homie get over that infamous 1400 wall?
clear pulsar
Idk if you can
With a 26% vers rogue
If he had 27.5% then maybe
But 26 a bit too low for 1400
tiny oar
Yea need at least 28 for that 14oo climb
edgy shale
I'll let him know
weak hinge
Do I smell boosty intentions here glyph
white jungle
I got 2.1k in 2s as bommy with 22 vers 
white jungle
Why would I lie lmao
edgy shale
thats piscally impossible
white jungle
Well then clearly u are not that good at pvp I guess
white jungle
Yup
edgy shale
no, if u dont have 30% vers then blizzard locks u below 1500 rating
in a vault
deep in the ground
and u can't get out
clear pulsar
I see yall have some tremendous sense of humor
edgy shale
clear pulsar
Tian doesnt surprise me, polish london schools not that good before Pasha opened his business
true cedar
Quick question. What are the best setups for boomkins in 3s?
edgy shale
u were saying in feral chat btw....
u actually curse me
to get 1 shotted
by azzin
true cedar
Cool thanks for the answers
edgy shale
how hard is assassination? i kinda wanna try it now cuz I've ben 1 shot by azzins like 3 times in thre last few days
cuz its kinda like feral w/ dots
vague sun
oof
i mean
its not really mechanically intensive
its more about minmaxing ur dmg
same as in bfa
clear pulsar
how hard is assassination? i kinda wanna try it now cuz I've ben 1 shot by azzin...
You can literally place your spells on bars 1 for 1 from feral
But your bleeds do damage
Actual damage
iron briar
Doing a bit of feelycraft guesswork, do we have any inclination that necro circle cat will be pvp viable in 9.0.5
Mmmm, tempted to preempt it on alt Druid and test it out, pressure has got to be pretty sweet
edgy shale
You can literally place your spells on bars 1 for 1 from feral
yea thats wat I thought. but it means I'd have to play rogue and thats gross
iron briar
Thing is I’ve got no intention of ever being rank 1 420 qs/ns rust only feral Druid, just want to get free 220’s :p
clear pulsar
The decent thing about feral necro is that you have FF
For pressure
In a burst setup
As opposed to boomie
Idk I think it'll be plenty 'viable'
vague sun
I wonder how good that would be in 2v2 where rot dmg can actually be good
iron briar
I mean FF rip rake swarm and rend and tear on other target should lead to some interesting damage
clear pulsar
I wonder how good that would be in 2v2 where rot dmg can actually be good
I don't think this is true
If anything necro would be better in 3s
With a 2nd dps that can spread pressure and oom enemy healer
That's how it felt when I was necro at least
vague sun
idk i think it can be in both since you get automatic dampening in 2v2
but i suppose that also depends how strong the necro build would be and how healer meta looks at that point
clear pulsar
It's the same argument for Convoke I feel, where like, at face value you'd imagine Convoke is a better spell in 2s, but I swear to god it's better in 3s where you have one more dps to help force enemy trinkets and defensives, and cross CC better without you needing to double stun + cyclone.
vague sun
Could definitely see kittycleave or something doing pretty high pressure that way tho
lime light
no why, convoke feels much better if u are playing with caster
with warrior kyrian would be better, for consant damgur
clear pulsar
edgy shale
vague sun
Convoke feels amazing right up until it gets interrupted then u wish u were anything but NF 🙂
clear pulsar
On the contrary
slim robin
Yea need at least 28 for that 14oo climb
D: no wonder I cant get past 1.5 with my 18% and shit skillz
clear pulsar
Convoke feels terrible when you get it full off and it doesn't kill anyone cuz you got 1 bite and 4 thrashes
If I force trinket and it gets interrupted I kill next stun DR with Grove stacks and Berserk triple bite
lime light
no
also feelsbad for ret
that press divine toll
and no one dies
😦
if u get full cast on divine toll someone should die
#alwaysRight
vague sun
If u divine toll someone and they survive, the ret should die instead
tiny oar
nice dabs
clear pulsar
Reading pve channels give me headaches
lime light
yes
tiny oar
Reading give me headaches
lime light
thinking give me headaches
tiny oar
Losing my mind reading this feral chat
clear pulsar
Part of aging it's normal tian dont worry
tiny oar
Me too it's ok buddy
split timber
Thanks for the answer. That makes cat weaving bit harder. But all good
lime light
what do u think, they should change in zanda racial
to make it not super horrible
i think, shield=not breaking
cast when moving?
maybe not sure
clear pulsar
They should make the active just buff up your current blessing
lime light
hm
clear pulsar
Instead of being the regen thing, it could be a regen if you took the loa that gives you heal
Or a 10% crit on-use if you have crit loa
Etc
clear pulsar
Sounds reasonable ye? @lime light
So it can be a crit version of regular troll for the dps
lime light
would be cool
tiny oar
They should make the active just buff up your current blessing
GONK ZOOMER GANG 200% MOVESPEED VROOM VROOM
lime light
but i think the "lore" shit
like they have to give some kind of regen
to zanda
lore wise
edgy shale
the power of zanda paladin
clear pulsar
It would maybe be a bit OP since you can have all racials
Like Akunda being a heal would be Draenei, Kragwa would be dwarf, etc
But you need a week to swap anyway
Would be nice
To just have the active change depending on the Embrace you have
lime light
the fat human is fine imo
decent race, the point is, there is a nelf
so
hmt feels fine
taurent best race, but still nothing compared to nelf
lime sun
For arena is kyrian better than night far, see a ton of kyrian Druid at higher CR.
clear pulsar
Both are good for the dps specs
tiny oar
Assuming ur feral/boomie kyrian is the more consistent/ reliable ya but there are convokers higher than 2700 too so its viable either way
clear pulsar
Why are you obsessed with the women that stream wow? @lime light
bitter harness
lime light
clear pulsar
@tardy hare this mog really do be goated brother
Thanks for the help with the boink sticks
edgy shale
edgy shale
is ur horde druid geared?
edgy shale
clear pulsar
Or do I go shirtless? @tiny oar pls rate
slim robin
Or do I go shirtless? <@!237412116024393728> pls rate
hot
clear pulsar
The necro int dagger looks fucken sick damn bro
tiny oar
God get it out of my sight holy fuk
clear pulsar
I'll take that as a compliment thank you
tiny oar
ABOMINATION I love it
lime sun
Assuming ur feral/boomie kyrian is the more consistent/ reliable ya but there ar...
Thanks man, now I just need Skoldus Halls to be Torghast. Stuck with no legendary till then.
clear pulsar
You can get it from twisted corridors
tiny oar
Ew no ty
errant blaze
Thanks man, now I just need Skoldus Halls to be Torghast. Stuck with no legendar...
Just do first 6 floors of twisting choridors that has skoldus layout and exit after that 🙂
fervent gull
whats currently better for boomy rbgs? burrs or second potency?
ik burrs is more of a ST thing so thats why im asking
and idk, ppl can avoid it too, right?
if not completely brainded, or cced
clear pulsar
fervent gull
lmao
lime light
ye i still had skin and wall, battlemaster, and bear form
i should have pre all of it
tardy hare
<@!140164607175032832> this mog really do be goated brother
Work of art
naive nova
Boomy 2c2 and 3c3, versa>mastery // or // vers>haste?
storm granite
is there a macro option to cast if target is enemy Player (not just enemy, enemy player)?
split timber
Any pvp bears around with ilevel of 215 to 220?
tough basin
@lime light wtf just happened to you
forest kite
Just how strong is wizard cleave atm?
lime light
Pretty good
lime sun
Just do first 6 floors of twisting choridors that has skoldus layout and exit af...
Don’t have twisting corridors unlocked on this toon yet unfortunately, only halfway through the torghast quest line to unlock it.
junior plover
<@!140164607175032832> this mog really do be goated brother
Bro i use these sticks too
forest kite
Hmm..I'll try it out then ^^ thanks!
junior plover
On my monk(e)
clear pulsar
Don’t have twisting corridors unlocked on this toon yet unfortunately, only half...
TC is account wide tho
lime sun
TC is account wide tho
Unlocked layers are account wide, but you can’t access TC until you finish the quest like to unlock it on each character.
clear pulsar
Is there a 2h shovel tho?
subtle spindle
Still need a Legendary as Pvp Moonkin - im Using BOAT for pve- any ideas?
tiny oar
@subtle spindle "Dreambinder is great for Kyrian, Boat is great for Night Fae. Dreambinder can be played as Night Fae. Boat can be played as Kyrian. Boat with solstice is strong spread damage and synergises well with convoke. Dreambinder is more damage than boat on average per damage window as the % increase on surges is more reliable than crit RNG." -pins
subtle spindle
Thx dude 😄 was thinking about the Legy which makes your DOTs faster, but i think i Dont change the BOAT at all
dusty sphinx
It would probably be decent if the dots actually did damage
subtle spindle
Would give some pressure On the bg but if i safe the AP like in pve Its easier to Focus and burst down a target 🧐
dusty sphinx
^
split timber
Any ilevel 215 or higher geared guardian druid?
clear pulsar
Just ask your question bro
split timber
I die from one shot rogues. I am still low ilevel but I want to understand if it gets better
candid dragon
Tanks take 50% extra damage in pvp
split timber
I am 185 ilevel. I get stunned I turn barksin but I still die. I am low at versatility
split timber
So if I am proper geared and rogue uses all the CDs can still one shot me?
split timber
So face2face u are a bear?
split timber
How much health and versa u have. What is your ilevel
candid dragon
I mean. At 185 ilvl, flag carrying rbgs is gonna be a bitch with stacking debuffs.
split timber
No he killed me without flag
dusty sphinx
185 is really quite low if you're up against anyone geared
split timber
So my questions is assuming no stacks from flags. And rogue opens with all CDs at equally High level. How much they take down your health?
Like 50 percent?
clear pulsar
I'm not in-game rn but I wanna say I have like 52k hp in bear?
Not a damn thing bro no chance a rogue kills me on opener with no flag stacks like that
Pls stop dming I hate getting dms
split timber
Thanks that helps
clear pulsar
You'd also rather ask questions here where if someone says something stupid someone else can correct
Thing with being in a bg is that you either have cc immunity with incarn leggo, or you have the barkskin leggo on
split timber
Ok good point
clear pulsar
So with either of those there's 0 chance a rogue kills you on opener ever
split timber
Nice
clear pulsar
Alone anyway
split timber
Any chance u can kill someone if the fight goes one vs 1?
Or is only about running away?
candid dragon
I mean if this is just a 1v1. Dueling etc. Gear can cheese it. Especially with NOW.
split timber
So u are in a tower defending and someone opens on u. And is really 1vs1 any chance to kill someone if u engagw to a long fight?
clear pulsar
If they dont have self healing sure
Like a rogue cant really sustain themselves
They'll just run away
split timber
That is fine. I just want to engage to some casuals wpvp with my bear.
But I like some advice. I do not want to play feral or boomkin
Affinities are fine
candid dragon
If it's world pvp in that case. Just craft Natural Orders Will, take survival of the fittest with the bark skin conduit. Enjoy the insanity of just tanking the damage.
split timber
Ok so the idea is not to take offensive legendaries and affinities. Just turn to even stronger bear right?
In 8.2 I would open as feral and do kitty stuff first before I turn to bear monster
clear pulsar
Looked in main realm which is pretty large pop, 35k. Looked in alt's realm which is BR but still decent pop, 25k. Looked in another realm which is medium pop, no shoveler. Looked in RP realm I played at in Legion, 2k gold 
split timber
If it's world pvp in that case. Just craft Natural Orders Will, take survival of...
Can u kill like that though or survive longer?
split timber
If it's world pvp in that case. Just craft Natural Orders Will, take survival of...
In such a built probably also venthyr RF is more needed
clear pulsar
Ok so the idea is not to take offensive legendaries and affinities. Just turn to...
Resto affinity doesn't really do a whole lot tbh, you can definitely go feral or balance affinity and get some big damage convokes off
Venthyr is complete trash bro
Don't fall for that
split timber
Don't fall for that
Really I thought that the 3 min CD is huge and u can melt enemies with all other cds
clear pulsar
It's a ramp up
candid dragon
I mean world pvping as a bear is already weird when other specs do it better. My suggestion of NoW is just meme'ing it on a survival front. 218 ilvl in bear myself, tried it and it's very meme.
clear pulsar
Not really useful
It's like, good for dungeons and doing large pulls with Incarn and RF
But it's not really the burst option for pvp
Convoke is
split timber
I mean world pvping as a bear is already weird when other specs do it better. My...
It is. In 8.2 I could do lot of feral and when I was dipping low I was turning to bear.
Also nice to make enemy believe that I am the feral that suffers. And then fight as bear
clear pulsar
You don't necessarily need NOW to survive, it's just super busted but it's overkill very often.
Feral doesn't suffer lol
Feral's insane for wpvp/1v1s
clear pulsar
You can probably get some great meme kills with hotw convoke feral affinity
split timber
U would all go for more defensive build instead of some offensive legendaey
Like boosting dps dots with improved bear moonfire
clear pulsar
If I was to play bear in duels I'd probably try Oath of Elder Druid or some shit
split timber
If I was to play bear in duels I'd probably try Oath of Elder Druid or some shit
Interesting
clear pulsar
@tardy hare do you know any good skimpy pants for mail?
bitter harness
lime light
@clear pulsar lol
clear pulsar
How am I supposed to play alts of other armor types
When warbear woolies is goated mog?
tiny oar
@clear pulsar does BT apply to primal wrath rips
lime light
lmao ofc
tiny oar
i was playing FF is dat bad
clear pulsar
Fem panda idle animations are so goated wtf
Nah all 3 talents are pretty decently close on that tier
I always play FF personally
lime light
play moc animal
tiny oar
i will try moc n ext key ty expert tian
lime light
welcome
stray sigil
tiny oar
🇷🇺
pallid coral
Tianton somehow picking the worst possible talent to suggest
Incredible
You had a 33% chance to suggest a good talent
twilit lintel
hey
twilit lintel
What is the best comp 2s comp for resto druid?
lime light
venthyr warrior ofc
fervent gull
with all the buffs warr got seems like they go well with everyone
just get carried 🤷
lime light
dont be sarcastic
but u have to be rly good wow player
to do well as venthyr warrior
clear pulsar
You only need to be good at writing a macro
fervent gull
https://youtu.be/CDb4fpALJrg?t=1225
holy fuck that was really hard to understand
i think i only got half of it til now
that shit needs some CC or subs
clear pulsar
You only need to be good at writing a macro
/castsequence reset=30 intervene party1, stormbolt focus, sharpen blade
Write this and press on cd
Boom 2.4k warrior
twilit siren
the other rogue, he was nine, he know he only have shongs?? when ghosting
lime light
why focus 😠
twilit siren
need help understanding
lime light
u chase the healer
tulip falcon
the other rogue, he was nine, he know he only have shongs?? when ghosting
no idea what he said at that point but he was mentioning about how the other team only had 9 players total
fervent gull
im 100% the other dude was just saying "i understand" hoping that he could get away with it
tulip falcon
i mean same thing really
twilit siren
didn't he say inc stables
tulip falcon
if ur def a base and someone tells u to inc or go to another base
you expect to ghost it
if ur a stealther
kind portal
Please excuse my noobness, i literally decided ill play boomer 5 mins ago.
Which legendary i should go for if my primary goal is to do pvp on it.
left garden
Boat
clear pulsar
Dreambinder
jovial pine
whats the opener for nf feral?
do i apply rip, rake and feral frenzy and stun them and go?
go implying i press the wonderful button named "Convoke the spirits" including tiger's fury and trinket
jovial pine
But with taste for blood, the bleeds i apply should further increase the damage of convoke, yeh?
and as i gather, with feral frenzy, the max is 3 bleeds?
clear pulsar
4
I mean
If you open with rake then target will be on stun dr for your bash
And so by the time you convoke, there will be 1s left of stun
At most
fervent gull
whats a good addon for plates?
cunning sedge
hey 🙂 anyone playing guardian on rbg from time to time ? I'm diving in this spec/option 🙂 I would be glad to hear about soulbinds/ conduits / legendaries / (pvp) - talent builds I kinda got some pieces of the puzzle but I'll be happy to hear more from experienced player
paper solar
lvl 50 talent for moonkin rbg?
cunning sedge
lvl 50 talent for moonkin rbg?
flag or orb goes middle or right; mines go left
paper solar
❤️
brave vortex
Is nightfae or kyrian viable for resto? I’m trying to multi spec but I main feral and don’t want to play necrolord
clear pulsar
Some people play night fae resto in 2s to 2.4+ rating
tiny tusk
i swear convoke prioritizes pets, any else feel this
brave vortex
Does convoke turn into a big oh shit heal as resto lol
pallid coral
this game is extremely cringe
pallid coral
: circle of life and death with bloodtalons is the move for 2s i think
Broadcaster44-Month Subscriberxenpvp
: and necrolord```wew
wise valley
you guys run born of the wild conduit?
rapid glade
should i be looking for crit over haste for boomie pvp? i.e. conq badge of ferocity vs honor badge
pallid coral
well conq badge is approximately 30 ilvls higher
so that might be a relevant consideration
you know
hallow topaz
does Incapacitating roar remove others dots in pvp?
lime light
no
hallow topaz
okay, some warlock was complaining that it does but I was pretty sure it doesn't
cold escarp
has anyone played boomy in awc?
clear pulsar
Plenty
twilit lintel
hI EVERYONE! How do I play resto druid in shadowplay?
cold escarp
can u be more specific its very broad question
twilit lintel
What is my role kind of?
Besides from healing
And should I always go guardian affinity?
versed blaze
resto covenant: isn't necro the best option for pvp (especially arena)? In my opinion convoke only makes sense, when resto playing feral affinity, so he gets a good damage cd. But i'm a bit confused that so many resto playing night fae
i would definitely go necro but am a bit confused, maybe someone can help
naive igloo
convoke is a pretty good defensive heal cd too. but yeah i think necrolord is def overall better, but i also enjoy having convoke for pve and i'm not trying to get rank 1 so it's good enough for 2200 for me
@versed blaze
sinful canyon
I play feral and pvp and was wondering about ilvl vs stat dist in pvp
I have the 220 vers mast sire weap and the 226 huntsman mast crit one
Is it worth to just stick with sire
versed blaze
convoke is a pretty good defensive heal cd too. but yeah i think necrolord is de...
y, agree. Thanks for ur view
grand crown
So for Balance druid pvp, is it still mainly haste/vers or should I be mixing in mastery too? i know PVE is mastery
cold escarp
i think its personal pref, some ppl go mastery some haste some half half
there is no definitive answer
wise valley
solar eclipse wrath with good haste is so fucking fast lol
wise valley
I remember wotlk new tree form when the big overhaul came and you could free cast wrath with .6 second cast time
Resto was so fun In that period
sullen lichen
whats the likelyhood of feral with 25% vers and 17% haste working out in arena
primal bane
0 dont even try
sullen lichen
is it really bad? i know i should have mastery but i dont have the gear, coming from resto pve
ebon vortex
resto covenant: isn't necro the best option for pvp (especially arena)? In my op...
if you are going to do any pve at all go night fae, if you are only gonna PvP pick necro
NF is ok in pvp and pretty much essential in pve, necro is good (about to be better) in pvp and complete garbage in pve
versed blaze
NF is ok in pvp and pretty much essential in pve, necro is good (about to be bet...
makes sense. Thanks
ebon vortex
I'm leveling a second druid just for necro rn lmfao
versed blaze
ill stay necro first. Ive done 6/9 of covenant campaign and its just my third char with focus on pvp. If ill do pve against my current plans, ill change to NF
ebon vortex
yea necro is about to be so good for PvP, and if the meta slows down a bit and hpala gets a nerf resto could be a super good healer
versed blaze
y thats my hope, haha
ebon vortex
I've played a lot of hpala this season but rdruid is so much more fun, just feels like ass in comparison rn
edgy shale
lol cope why
idle hare
Which legendary are you all running on balance? Balance all things seem best with night fae but skillcapped recommends dreambinder
quaint rapids
world pvp
killing people
fight paladin
typical paladin bullshit, but winning
all the sudden get hit by templars verdict for 16k through barkskin and die
deft tapir
Which legendary are you all running on balance? Balance all things seem best wit...
I even like boat as kyrian when I play boomy, the basically on demand 10-12k starsurge/maaaaybe two, is really nice.
dreambinders probably technically better if you're really good or something. But BOAT is simple and catches people off guard a lot too.
haughty compass
Build ap, eclipse, clone spam surge
glad knot
fury of elune effectively does the same thing treants does for base sitting right
stiff totem
I just did skaldus through twisting corridor and did not get BOAT
whoever said TC works is a liar
fervent gull
I just did skaldus through twisting corridor and did not get BOAT
at wich layer lvl?
afaik needs to be layer 3 or higher
glad knot
is warrior of elune and solstice just pad talents or do i ever take
fervent gull
i carried a bud today at coldheart for his leggo coz he couldnt q for higher layers than 1 of tc on his alt
stiff totem
@fervent gull It was L3
eternal charm
hey guys i saw a clip of a balance druid convoking while his convoke cast was grey'd out
how did he do it?
glad knot
aura mastery
twilit siren
if I use koryan for feral pvp which souldbinds/conduits would I take
pallid coral
jesus the awc stream is just 5 minutes of flaming ven for picking night fae on ww
gloomy token
finite girder
Is there a way I can gear both feral and boomer with PvP gear. Or I stuck having one with good stats and the other non optimal stats
Yeh ikr. Just always did better as feral in arena. But balance rbgs. Is the lost haste extreme detrimental for rbgs
balmy vortex
Any streamers/youtubers i can check for feral pvp?
Shit man, I checked pins in another channel by accident, sorry
Makes sense it'd be there, thanks
Huh, I feel like I don't see any feral druids running kyrian in 2s or 3s, but all the guides say it's really good. Is this still the case?
(truth be told, I guess there aren't that many ferals in arena in general)
stone nest
What all does arcane torrent dispell? Beneficial effect is super broad.
But it doesn’t do ice block or divine shield
Can I take karma?
muted edge
Is it viable to fb at 4 points or make sure I have 5 before?
safe heart
I have 3 questions
- Lock/hpal - i need help beating this comp. Feels like the crippling dot pressure is too insane and i cant burst down a 45k hp lock thru a hpal healer
- War/restodruid -- who is the better kill target? some games it feels like going druid makes for an easy win but other times its like impossible to stick on the druid hard enough to kill him thru bear. I try to stun him out of bear but idk, feels gross
- what gets more value vs dk's, strength or thorns?
sry was trying to type it all between games
2a. I usually like to kill warrior in any comp honestly so intervene or whatever is a non issue but idk
final ridge
Any NA horde ferals want to jungle at 1.8?
paper solar
Kyrian or NF for balance Druid rbg?
plush ocean
any tips for a boomie/firemage comp for 2s?
paper solar
Currently NF @ 1840 and every group I’ve been in seems to assume every boomkin is NF anyway. having fun 🤩
sacred path
Absolutely broken as resto in arena rn lol😵😞
Been practicing but I’m just so so bad
Embarrassed by how many games I have lol 😅😞
safe heart
Currently NF @ 1840 and every group I’ve been in seems to assume every boomkin i...
have you had any non-druids try to explain to you why youre dumb for not being NF?
tiny oar
Keep grinding buddy u can do it
safe heart
ive had a few
turbid trail
Any [Timeworn Dreambinder] Balance Druid experts?
Can you keep reduced AP costs buff with 100% uptime? During incarnation? Are there any haste breakpoints?
placid minnow
How's Necro for Boomy? Was thinking since Fleshcraft will get buff soon
tough meadow
Necro is a pretty sturdy covenant now. But boomys are already sturdy enough on their own, have endless kiting capabilities and have passive armor too.
But if you like it. Just go for it, when you have the skills. Covenants aren't that big of a difference
edgy shale
tough meadow
I can see it viable in 2s, you beeing more of a support role too. Can work.
placid minnow
Question is rather if I'd be handicapping myself by not taking Kyrian. Goal is just to get 1800 tbh.
Also question is if people in RBG groups would be like "LUL wtf no Convoke?"
edgy shale
yes ppl will say that lol
placid minnow
I just find Convoke frustrating. Kyrian seems a bit dull. So question is if Necro is a good middleground
tulip falcon
there are defo boomies that do fine without convoke in rbg but people in lower groups especially random pugs seem to think convoke is more busted than it actually is so may be an issue
placid minnow
But from my understanding, for competitive Resto PvP, Necro is the choice either way, right?
As long as Necro isn't horrendous for Feral or Boomy, I'm fine with that then.
edgy shale
its not so bad for feral. from wat glyph has said im pretty sure its pretty far below avg for boomy
placid minnow
Far below sounds excessive
edgy shale
why do u say that
tardy hare
Dude
People in RBGs dont invite me cause im guardian
While its the best fc
But theyre so fucking dumb that they still want DH
tulip falcon
lmao
edgy shale
tulip falcon
what people think is meta in pugs is always interesting
tough meadow
@placid minnow , go for necro if you want to go double dps. You can always change later on anyways.
edgy shale
LAVA LAVA LAVA
tardy hare
Picks the get one cart option
tulip falcon
let me guess 9 man lava?
tardy hare
No
edgy shale
GO LAVA GO LAVA
tulip falcon
legit big brain strats
edgy shale
that wild u expect the avg pub to know u can even switch the track
tulip falcon
lmao
edgy shale
tulip falcon
ive played on my alt i know how bad it is
difference is the dirt tier is at least 2.2 now
tardy hare
My team couldnt win a teamfight vs mw monk and rdru man
tulip falcon
lmao
tardy hare
tulip falcon
you saw that meckos vid i posted yesteday where the rogue didnt know what ghosting was
he thought it was corpse running
neat breach
I take guardian for rbgs only so many garbage dh tanks and I have actually been tempted to go kyrian all my games with aura mast up I just get cc'd
edgy shale
lol no way
neat breach
Anyone have any tips to not get insta ccd in rbgs when trying to convoke?
Is it better to just hold it?
edgy shale
sleeper
tulip falcon
tbh I've found that there's more garbo guardian druids than DH tanks
tardy hare
True
neat breach
Too many dh tanks running their pve trinkets
ebon vortex
gurdian is so easy to play
neat breach
Cant call in comms while fighting etc etc
tardy hare
But idk if youre a 1400->1600 push group, why would you not invite the 1600 cr 220 ilvl guardian druid
tulip falcon
legit seen like backpeddling keyboard turning guardian druids at 2.5 whereas most DHs I've seen are glad glad players who are just forced to play tank
ebon vortex
i mean so is vengence but i think guardian has less buttons lol
tardy hare
edgy shale
need dh tank 30%++++ vers (plz link vers)
tardy hare
Everyone asking for vers is the dumbest shit ever
edgy shale
u cant, thats why ur high elos krassz.
tardy hare
Meanwhile have like 10% themselves
edgy shale
who needs skill when u can have vers
ebon vortex
everyone just lies about vers anyway lmfao
tardy hare
Imagine having to lie about vers btw
ebon vortex
gonna try saying 50% next time i join rbgs
edgy shale
i just say like 28 so they stfu and invite me
tulip falcon
i dropped some for mastery so i am unoptimal!!
neat breach
I enjoy the people who lie about mmr/cr and dont expect to be checked
ebon vortex
yea like sorry i swapped my 213 neck for a 226 one
i can have the 3% vers back if you really need it that bad lmfao
tulip falcon
i literally had a russian hpala afk mid game because he saw my alts gear
refused to even play
tardy hare
tulip falcon
even tho i literally ninja capped lh 3 times
ebon vortex
"russian"
edgy shale
did somebody say mastery?
ebon vortex
theres your problme
edgy shale
tardy hare
refused to even play
"im not gonna carry this guy"
tulip falcon
dude was 1600 with full gear and like 300 games played
tardy hare
Xd
neat breach
i literally had a russian hpala afk mid game because he saw my alts gear
I started my own groups on shaman because to do 1400 games you need 215ilvl
tulip falcon
i said i was 2.7 on main and he said it was because i had gear on it
neat breach
for reasons
tulip falcon
actual apes i swear
edgy shale
thats wat im sayingh!
tulip falcon
ye tbf we did get farmed by PvErs before the honor ilvl upgrade and there was like 15 ilvl difference
at 2.4-2.5 for a bit
then the gear equalled out
queen holly
any thoughts on lsd as a comp? tried it for a bit last night and it felt pretty good, granted this was in the 1400-1500 trench
destro can still fucking pump if left untouched
vague sun
probably one of the better resto druid comps, but i wouldnt expect it to be top tier
definitely playable to high rating tho
surreal elbow
clear pulsar
It sounds good, it has a hybrid and spammable cc
queen holly
my warlock was 220 ilvl full pve geared with like 43k hp
clear pulsar
Which both immensely help rdru
queen holly
so all the zug zug animals went on my shaman
clear pulsar
It's like a glass cannon shadowplay
queen holly
problem with shadowplay at least at my rating is that it's impossible to actually kill anyone because the goes are so uncoordinated
wind rock
What is lsd comp?
clear pulsar
Lock sham druid
wind rock
Ah thanks
queen holly
if only i were good enough to get to 2.4
edgy shale
i thought half the point of splay was rot, so who care sabout ur goes
just oom the healer
clear pulsar
Yeah rdru best comps are probably any caster cleave
clear pulsar
Thing is like people get so hung up on that type of question 'what is my role? should i be ccing or doing damage'
edgy shale
i mean no1, but if ur gonna fuck up goes better on splay than roguer mage
clear pulsar
Like bro it's not mutually exclusive
edgy shale
thats fair enough
clear pulsar
Splay you have a humongous cc chain for healer AND kill target
If you coordinate well
You just gotta do the dam
And get cross cc
As any comp bro
Is the fish one-hand mog from islands always 200k gold every realm?
I've already spent so much on buying mogs
tulip falcon
is that the one had has flop physics
edgy shale
reminding me of island mogs reminds me that im dumb as hell. I had a ton of island mogs, but i thought when slands dropped the price would go way down, but it all went way up. who knows why I thought ppl would want to do islands when sland was out
firekin amice went from 100k to 500k
that fish usesd to be 50k on my server
i can check now
tulip falcon
not sure but I have it somehow
queen holly
yeah people still farm island mogs
clear pulsar
https://www.twitch.tv/bean/clip/InnocentPluckyFriesPunchTrees-CWYtcQ7HhmKJ93HW @stray sigil @lime light @edgy shale
junior plover
Splay isn't actually that great in dampen
Compared to like a full blown melee cleave
You still need fat goes
edgy shale
stop kcking me, im already dead
queen holly
what's the fish tmog called
junior plover
No worries man you live you learn
clear pulsar
edgy shale
and ye u can keep farming it from islands
clear pulsar
Sphincter smasher
edgy shale
i think its a random drop tho, so have fun with that
clear pulsar
Yeah I can't find it on the AH of any realm I've any gold on except Sargeras
junior plover
I can't believe I didn't get Blizzcon 2019 pjs
junior plover
queen holly
i just wanna price check
queen holly
was 75k earlier in the week, now 140k 
edgy shale
oh
queen holly
i always forget to buy it
junior plover
stinkrot smasher
Soulrot damper?
edgy shale
i sold 2 for 50k, i guess i shoulda held them
junior plover
junior plover
Kek
clear pulsar
Idk the fae ones are horrible anyway
junior plover
I can't imagine they could be bothered with clipping
clear pulsar
Oh is that the mage?
Yeah that looks nice
I'm still using the sigil as a mog
Even tho I rolled back nfae
It just stayed mogged
junior plover
clear pulsar
Is that dk?
Oh the honor level ones
I only ever use the mage tower one
Yeah they nailed the dragon head
bitter harness
yeah i hate that too
tiny oar
I'm gonna lvl my fury warrior
clear pulsar
Wait no
I said mage tower
I meant the hidden appearance one
The arms one is like the arcanite reaper, which is nice but not super sick
Fury and prot tho
NASHTY
tiny oar
Lol it sounds dumb and big inting but I just wanna play SMF again used to b my main forever ago
1h
Titans grip was so dumb to me
queen holly
also not expertise capped
queen holly
I kinda wish they brought back some mandatory stats
makes gearing more interesting than just "stack ilvl"
edgy shale
yeah but idk if that's the way to do it. trinkets w/ interesting effects or maybe the tier sets add something fun
tropic schooner
I kinda wish they brought back some mandatory stats
Actually agreed that part I kinda liked about corruption felt a bit like hit back in the day where you tried to only get a certain amount and as close to cap as possible
forest root
Is necrolords going to be bis for feral in 9.0.5?
lime light
@clear pulsar lmao he one deag him
dull apex
best stats for feral pvp? versa and mastery, right?
candid moth
Its funny that back then most just took it for granted and didn't really complain
it was shit for sure
queen holly
yeah but idk if that's the way to do it. trinkets w/ interesting effects or mayb...
trinkets are by far the worst way to introduce it because it's literally feast or famine
tardy hare
fuck i hate levelling man
queen holly
everybody fucking hates people who get the trinkets to drop
forest kite
are there any known bear streamers for rbg push?
edgy shale
tiny oar
safe heart
whoa whoa, someone just told me theyre gunna let us wear 2 legendaries?
is that true?
tiny oar
They havent announced anything yet about 2 leggos afaik
safe heart
well now im wondering if i should make bark skin leggo for a diff slot than im using for sym
clear pulsar
Hopefully that's like 9.3 shit
safe heart
yeah honestly i dont wanna see mages have triune with a dps lego or some shit
and fucking paladins dont need more power for sure
clear pulsar
Feral would just be forced to play oath + NOW
Some legendaries just have insane synergy for a few specs it's not even funny
How wild the discrepancy is
I mean I could see circle + draught necro feral tbh
Imagine warrior
Signet + bladestorm MS
With anger management or some shit
Keefers applies a 50% crit buff
WHAT THE FRICK
I think enhance has a few leggos that would be ridiculous too
Some maelstrom stack generating shit
That could play off one another like insane
Yeah it would just exacerbate the ridiculousness of the game today
A handful of specs just completely nuke you from full in 2 globals
And other specs are insane livelords
clear pulsar
Bro I've been buying weapon packs from old pvp seasons left and right and I'm like
Shit running out of marks of honor
Went over my legion alts still at lvl 45
596 newly found marks of honor
Like finding money on the back pocket of them dirty jeans
edgy shale
idk wat the biggest brain thing is, but I traded a bunch of marks for saltwater potions that were like 50g each lol
sell tha tshit
jesus
bitter harness
saltwater potions are fun in random BGs
saltwater potion + berserk + goblin glider + incarn convoke
tiny oar
Idk what rdruid would even use other than verdant prolly NOW for defense n sephuz or draught for thruput
All the other legos r such shit for arena that it makes sephuz look decent lol
bitter harness
crimson citrus
Hi regarding balance druid in arenas is the best legendary balance of power for night fae please?
candid moth
yes
slim robin
All the other legos r such shit for arena that it makes sephuz look decent lol
?????
Circle bro
vapid crane
Circle
slim robin
hot it, dot it, rip it, stealth it, free cr
crimson citrus
Circle really but that is only for sun and moon fire
slim robin
tbh I only play circle 'cause im a dirty pve bois and not enough soul ass for draught ><
gotta get sleeper first for that engaging rbg gameplay
tiny oar
Was mostly thinking about 3s healing throughput wise obvi go for more dam in 2s though yea
crimson citrus
What about timeworn?
slim robin
draught in 3s must be hard to play
tiny oar
Yea I was just thinking for extra ST rejuv healing but itd be really weird / impossible to only consistently rejuv 1 target all game now that I'm thinking about it a bit
clear pulsar
Just yell at your teammates to cancelaura when they stop getting hit
tiny oar
🧠
tiny oar
Just yell at your teammates to cancelaura when they stop getting hit
"Dont worry dude yseras will top u in a minute or two"
clear pulsar
@junior plover I have over 30 of these by now
I have over 30 of these saved up @vestal citrus
junior plover
<@!140517245880238101> I have over 30 of these by now
clear pulsar
That's the point tho