pvp

[edgy shale]

congrats!

[next lynx]

it was a long and painful journey

so many deaths to night hunter... and feet boops and massacres...

funnily enough phase 3 took the shortest time to get through

[edgy shale]

yeah phase 3 isn't so bad u just need the damage

dyin to night hunter is pretty omega cringe tho

[junior plover]

Lightning Shield damage got buffed 500%

Necrolord ability for shaman got buffed for 50%

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil willy is night fae on armory are you guys still queueing?

[junior plover]

Elemental gonna slap

[clear pulsar]

Thats only for enhance

Primordial wave buff only affects enhance

[junior plover]

Ah

Alright nvm then

The new necro warrior looks great

Can't wait to have 3 viable warrior builds beat my ass

[edgy shale]

didnt warrior already have 3 viable options

[junior plover]

What was 3rd

Kyrian Necro

[edgy shale]

idk how good Nf is acutaly but i saw 1 warrior use it lol

[junior plover]

Ah

Ye i saw it like a few times

It's not pvp tho I'm pretty sure

[foggy ravine]

NF warrior kinda slams

its an aoe slam that knocks down

[clear pulsar]

Bajheera plays NF warr

It's hilarious

[foggy ravine]

seen it crit for 17k

[junior plover]

Hmm

4 viable builds

Let's go baby

[foggy ravine]

and gives them big rage

[junior plover]

But legit to all the Boomies out there

Partner with necro warrior

It sounds glorious

[clear pulsar]

Warr boomie hpal

Aura mastery intervene

With spell reflect talent

[next lynx]

after like

[clear pulsar]

Banner CAvoke

[junior plover]

Watch it win the 9.0.5 AWC

I'm calling it now

[foggy ravine]

where yall finding the changes

[junior plover]

Wowhead

It's PTR tho

Probably for like early april

Rebalance patch while we wait for 9.1 content

[junior plover]

Altho it's probably gonna just be played kyrian and they won't bother with aura mastery

Just constant big dick starsurges

[clear pulsar]

Banner is a 2 min cd

Lines up PERFECTLY bro

You just gotta do it

Do it for the culture

[junior plover]

Swifty oneshot convokes?

With a warrior

Checks out

[green valve]

I kinda hope mages go over to spark

Such a pia to vatch with nf

[junior plover]

Man people are already crying that fire oneshots

Kyrian fire is next level oneshots

They can actually kill through a defensive

Rather than forcing defensives 1 by 1 with NF

[stray sigil]

yes

[clear pulsar]

How do you feel about it

Does it do good dam?

[foggy ravine]

kick spark

kill

[junior plover]

Venthyr mage feels useless

Idk

[foggy ravine]

play with hpal then you don't need to be venthyr as mage

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar it doesnt do anything

but willy is convinced it does dmg

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

its like 800 dmg

literally garbage

[junior plover]

Ok but

U play bt curio so you're even??

[stray sigil]

i actually do damage

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

Gotem

Do you feel like sak works well with bt curio btw

[edgy shale]

wait wat r u talking abou wild spirits

[stray sigil]

sak

whats sak

[junior plover]

Sak on deez nuts

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale he asked if willy was nf

thats their dog ability

[edgy shale]

idk who that is, i assumed thats ur hunter>?

[stray sigil]

yes

[junior plover]

Hey also

Trinket set bonus works for pets in 9.0.5

Can't wait for WW fun on ptr

[edgy shale]

that must be a huge buff for demo

[gloomy token]

Yo lads necro fleshcraft rework gonna be pog

[junior plover]

Demo could get 50% more damage and still suck ass

With the necro changes Rdruid might actually be good

[gloomy token]

Bait kick and uninterrupted channel for dr shield and life regen with marileth

[junior plover]

They basically get an extra defensive cooldown now and adaptive swarm slaps

[gloomy token]

I'm patched back in

[clear pulsar]

Yeah actually insane buff to fleshcraft

My horde druid gon slap

[junior plover]

Necro feral dream

You can't tell me draught necro feral in kitty cleave isn't the best build in the game

[clear pulsar]

Ooooh speaking of legion

I tried nighthold

COuldn't kill Aluriel

But I was kyrian

Probably doable with Night Fae

Or was it botanist that I couldnt kill

Idk I was drunk

[junior plover]

I did Nighthold at like 213

Aluriel is the gardener?

@clear pulsar

I end up facerolling it but yeah that one seems like rng can just fuck you sometimes idk how that works

[clear pulsar]

The gardener is the botanist

I think that's the one I couldn't kill

I'll try it again with convoke now

[junior plover]

Oh aluriel is the middle one

Idk rolled over all but Guldan with convoke at like 213

Guldan is a tight deeps check

[edgy shale]

yeh doesn't he turn into illidan

i didnt really play legion

[clear pulsar]

BRO SPOILERS????

[edgy shale]

[earnest turret]

With the necro buffs, it's starting to look quite appealing for boomkins?

Rip

[tidal rivet]

What is the best feral legender atm?

[rancid pebble]

I want to mess with the changes on resto for necro to see how the buffs would be for healing and for damage now that master shapeshifter is fixed and draught or circle legendary

[forest kite]

i think its the one that u can triple fero bite with 5 4 4

Buffs tiger's fury or somth

Eye of fearful

[tidal rivet]

Aha okay thanks then i m working my way towards that one

[clear pulsar]

Bruh you sim like a full 10% higher than me in dslice @surreal siren

What the frick

[surreal siren]

this is the pvp channel

[edgy shale]

lol he just hit u with the wrong channel btich

[clear pulsar]

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

@edgy shale @junior plover god gamer

[small hamlet]

Balance of all things or timeworn dreambinder for rated bgs?

[clear pulsar]

Got the belt mog

[edgy shale]

dam ur op

[clear pulsar]

Both are good, depends on personal preference/covenant has some say in it too

[small hamlet]

im night fae so im leaning towards balance of all things

[clear pulsar]

Yeah boat as nightfae is little bit bonkers sometimes, tho rng ofc

[small hamlet]

should me emphasis be more on spread pressure or single target dmg?

my*

[compact depot]

fuck purge

[small hamlet]

i can do crazy aoe dmg but i question wether or not thats maximally contributing to winning games

the aoe dmg only really plays a role in causing enemy healers to go oom

[clear pulsar]

Aoe is padding

[small hamlet]

what do you mean by that?

[clear pulsar]

Well you should put up your dots and all

But spending on starfall is just pad for meters

[empty field]

so is kyrian the best covenant if I'm looking to do all content?

[clear pulsar]

Triple surge on someone's head for their entire HP bar is what wins the fight/game

[clear pulsar]

Night fae is far and away bis in pve

[small hamlet]

okay yeah i've been playing it wrong then

[clear pulsar]

For 3 of 4 specs

[stray sigil]

ok so how big is the necro buff

i think im qutting 3v3 ima go troll a bit

@clear pulsar

[empty field]

is it still competitive with kyrian in pvp for balance?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah night fae is good all around for playing druid

Kyrian is only good in pvp for the dps specs

And I guess it's ok for tank in raid too

[empty field]

If only blizzbong let us pick a covenant for pvp and pve

[clear pulsar]

But if you're trying to play m+/raid/pvp/multiple specs

Then night fae

Is the play

[empty field]

ty

[clear pulsar]

It's just a flat 25% buff

Idk like

I think it's significant

And the fleshcraft change is pretty big too

Yeah for feral

FF big dam

[small hamlet]

whats going to build up astral power the best?

should i be tab dotting a lot or sitting there casting wrath/starfire?

[clear pulsar]

Thing is

Draught is a good leggo for feral too

Not good for boomie

So you get these 2 buffs to dot

And FF is like 10k+ damage baseline

Easily 20k per cast with necro + badge

Like feral has more interactions to make necro meaningful dam

And they fixed draught with LI moonfire

3 dots affected by Draught + FF for necro burst

I am soooo hoping it's playable bro

[small hamlet]

how many people should i be applying moonfire/sunfire to in a team fight/

[clear pulsar]

Love me some LI moonfireys

[clear pulsar]

Idk just put up sunfire in the big clump, then put up some moonfires if you're in lunar eclipse prob

Spamming starfire is a bit meh

Too long cast time

Idk

Doesn't reeeeally matter tbh

What matters more is having pooled astral power to dump surges when you going for a kill

And peeling for you rhealers

[small hamlet]

should dumping full astral power on starsurges come before or after i use incarn/convoke?

convoke probably gives me about half a bar of astral power

[tall knoll]

Dump it before if you can. Finding the right convoke window is the hard part though imo

Am?

[fathom oxide]

i disappoint my friend yesterday, told him we were gona arena all evening but when i got home i was too tired 😦

[small hamlet]

seems ideal to dump full astral power on starsuges followed by convoke then more surges with the astral power you just built

[stray sigil]

whats the point of draught in that build for pvp @clear pulsar

isnt all ur dmg ff

[clear pulsar]

Whats the point of any other leggo tho

Circle for quicker FF? Sure same thing

But triple dot with Draught is some dam

[stray sigil]

40% on single target is like what

from 800 rip tick to like 1100?

still seems not good

[clear pulsar]

I dont have a lot of haste but for me rn it's 450 moonfire, 650 rake, 650 rip basically. So with necro and draught they go to 850, 1230, 1230 respectively.

I have literally 6% haste tho

[edgy shale]

harness the power of BT to make the rip truly strong

[clear pulsar]

Nah need FF

[edgy shale]

losing FF is monkas for necro tho i guess

[clear pulsar]

For some sort of burst pressure

[edgy shale]

yeah

rip would fuckign pump tho

[clear pulsar]

But buff those by 15% for SR too

And play sudden ambush for stealth rakes

[edgy shale]

ive wanted to try SA out for trying to get 100% stealth rake uptime

its meme tho for now

[lime light]

Ape gang

I can respect it

[edgy shale]

ty tian

[lime light]

As far as u dont flame my peasants in my channel

[edgy shale]

i actually have no idea wat ur talkinga bout

[stray sigil]

looks super degen

i wanna try it but li seems

a bit troll

[stray sigil]

tbf he is playing ret war

my grandma could play ret war

[tardy hare]

my grandma is a warrior irl tbh

[stray sigil]

i could see it

[tiny oar]

nice

[primal bane]

could someone link me that RBG guide?

it covers short explained basic strats

for each map

[muted iron]

Hello guys! I mostly play PVE (mm+ 1.4k rio for the moment) and I really want to start playing arenas (2vs2). I feel that my keybinding in not good enough / appropriate for pvp content, even if Im happy with it in PVE. Do you have any documentation around mandatory pvp macros / addons and something about keybindings and macros specific for resto druid in pvp ? 🙂

[clear pulsar]

Bro watching vanguards stream it's like an entirely different game lmao
WW ret and fire burst is absurd

[edgy shale]

if ur bindings work for u in pve they'll def work for u in pvp. ur used to them. switching bindings for pve/pvp sounds really troll unless u mean small stuff. I'd prob just make some bi ndings for maybe holding shift or alt or something casts it on focus instead of main target

[clear pulsar]

[edgy shale]

liek on my lock R is fear and shift-R is fear focus

[clear pulsar]

There's no such thing as mandatory whatever bro

[edgy shale]

gladiusex is a nice addon tho

gives u a lot of info for free

i'd also use something to make debuffs/buffs bigger

[tardy hare]

did you just say sex

[clear pulsar]

The more important things in pvp than pve are focus macros (or arena1, arena2, arena3) for CC or interrupts and stuff

[tardy hare]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[clear pulsar]

And just being comfortable with your setup

Usually people target their party members with keybinds too as healers for higher ranked players but like

That's a very stark change from mouseover for a lot of people

And it wont hinder you from reaching whatever rating

There are people at 3k that heal with mouseover

[edgy shale]

there was a league pro who used a trackball mouse it was troll as shit

literally doesn't matter if ur used to it

there's a street fighter pro who is disabled and plays entirely like w/ his face

[clear pulsar]

Yeah being comfortable and having your binds and stuff as second nature is way more important

Cuz you need to know in your heart where your spells are, your focus needs to be on other shit, not on remembering what key is which spell or staring at your actionbars

[primal bane]

everybody still links me vers even when i dont ask for it

not even flexing either i get 11% vers notes

[edgy shale]

imagine joining an RBG group and cope is the leader

[muted iron]

Thank you, my main concern was about my mouseover macros indeed.

[primal bane]

my biggest weakness is that i dont kick people that sit through the wait times

like if u waited 15-20 mins for the group to form i might aswell keep you even if we need a rogue

[edgy shale]

its ok cope, that's the human part of you. u haven't let the game consume you

[primal bane]

should i invite willy nilly if im at like 1k cr?

bc people with this kind of cr are breaking grounds for stupidity records

like absolutely no idea of listning or knowing strats

at the same time, kinda feel like playing the game someday

[clear pulsar]

Someone should tell Starship that Necro is a shitty covenant and he's being dragged down to the bottom of the barrel like a chump @vestal citrus

[edgy shale]

u forgot to @ the guy

[summer jungle]

Are people leaving NF for BRGs?

[clear pulsar]

Homie was really convinced Necro isn't good for rdru and got real fucken mad

@edgy shale done

[edgy shale]

lol

[summer jungle]

I see alot of balance go Kyrian, event Necro

[primal bane]

what if i build like a disgusting 220+ minimum ilvl team regardless of their cr/xp

could i reach 1.5k with that fast?

[alpine matrix]

gotta know how to play the class somewhat no matter what ilvl

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar did u go back convoke yet?

[torn dagger]

Anyone talking about the 400 mastery buff necro warriors can give to boomies on a 2 min CD after tuning?

[summer jungle]

We meet a mythic guild the other night, so much fun

[clear pulsar]

There's no 'a lot of' necro boomie, it's just resto druids that log off after doing pve/torghast/chores as boomie.

Or rbgs yeah

Boomie insane in rbgs no matter the covenant

[primal bane]

shoudl i put "know stsrats" in desc?

[clear pulsar]

Yes

[primal bane]

it sounds like it attracts shitters

but its really all im asking at the same time

[summer jungle]

Ok thanks @clear pulsar

[stray sigil]

i need to push some keys i think i need to go back nf

[clear pulsar]

It's a pretty large difference bro especially with Prideful in certain bosses

With timed phases like mists or necrotic wake

I wanna do more keys too that's why I went back

[stray sigil]

can i play curio in m+

[clear pulsar]

Definitely felt way nicer playing Kyrian in pvp

[edgy shale]

yeah curio is fine

[clear pulsar]

It's like 2 or 3% behind Circle @stray sigil

[summer jungle]

Guess it just becomes mandatory to have a Paladin help you get off convoke in higher ratings

[clear pulsar]

In arena? Nah

[stray sigil]

circle is better than apex for m+?

[clear pulsar]

I mean it's nice to have an immunity or some other utility to cover like Grounding but

You can get Convokes off with cross CC

[edgy shale]

yeah circle does more damage

[clear pulsar]

Generally pretty close but Circle just a bit more dam and Apex too inconsistent idk

[summer jungle]

I’m purely running RBGs

[stray sigil]

how big are ur bites

with bt during convoke

with conflux

and nyis

nyia

[edgy shale]

tahts not true at all. its easy to get convokes off on the melee fromm 40 yards

w/ pride too i get like 50-60k bites

[stray sigil]

hm

[tardy hare]

bro

swear to god

all these people

dont even die from feral convoke anymore

smh

[stray sigil]

it is pretty trash yes

[clear pulsar]

In pvp I got a 17k crit during Convoke without BT @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

na fuck that noise

[clear pulsar]

17.5 or so

[stray sigil]

i play bt

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it'd be around 22k with BT

[stray sigil]

with conflux and nyia?

no way

sounds super low

[clear pulsar]

No only Conflux

[tardy hare]

we did it boys

we're full

[clear pulsar]

Been trying Korayn

For the opener crit

Idk if it's worth

Doesn't seem to reset if you drop combat

[edgy shale]

o baby that's a fat ilvl

[stray sigil]

well i would def go for biggest bite poss

[edgy shale]

u just want ksm tho, right fuji? cuz u can def get it w/ watever cov. especialyl cuz ur overgeared

NF way better but if u don't actually wanna push who cares

[stray sigil]

i want the mount ya

but i played a bit kyrian in pve

not a fan

[edgy shale]

ya i just heard switching cov is annoying as shit

[stray sigil]

its actually not that bad

just like do wq 2x a week for 2 weeks

[clear pulsar]

It's only renown/campaign that takes time

But like swapping is whatever

Just do 2 dungeons

Normal lfg 10 mins each

[edgy shale]

ya i mean fully catching up renonwn, but i guess all u really want is convoke

[stray sigil]

i was like 26 renown nf

24 mayb

[edgy shale]

oh i thought u were kyrian for life from the start

[stray sigil]

na i was venthyr > nf > kyrian > venthyr > nf now kyrian

[tardy hare]

wtf

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

double venthyr madman

[tardy hare]

fuji actually

[stray sigil]

listen

we all make mistakes

i just happen to have made a lot more

[tardy hare]

[edgy shale]

"venthyr sucks, i gotta switch" "man, how bout that venthyr"

[tardy hare]

[stray sigil]

listen

@obtuse ice did convince me to go back venthyr

not my fault

[graceful charm]

Savant, could u link ur armory. Wanna see ur build

[stray sigil]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Emerald Dream/Fujiuwu

[graceful charm]

Ur name i cba

[clear pulsar]

Lmao

The name fits the mog perfectly

I appreciate that

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Ok yeah sorry that was with niya conflux 18k crit bite on leather

[stray sigil]

no bt?

[clear pulsar]

With BT

My gear is way worse than yours like

[stray sigil]

ig maybe ur gear is shit

ya

[clear pulsar]

You have 15% mastery on me and a 233 wep

[stray sigil]

ig ur not a real gamer

[clear pulsar]

I don't put myself thru the maw daily shitter no

Fucking 5 socket having ass

[stray sigil]

listen

[clear pulsar]

You're on ED IRONSWORN REGIMENT??

[stray sigil]

get gud

[clear pulsar]

What the fuck man

I thought you were a real one

[stray sigil]

goes with the name

and the mog

diesnt it

[clear pulsar]

They trash

[stray sigil]

was either that or wsb

[clear pulsar]

Idc

[stray sigil]

for the memes

[clear pulsar]

All my homies hate isr and wsb

[graceful charm]

Do i convoke my way to 2k then swap to kyr, or just swap insta

[stray sigil]

ya they are zerg guilds i think

[tardy hare]

just convoke ur way higher

[stray sigil]

doesnt matter

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I played on ED for 3 years

[stray sigil]

either is fine

i played alliance in wod on ed

[clear pulsar]

ISR WSB Syndicate garbage guilds

[stray sigil]

wsg were def sone cucks

perma raiding stormshield

[tardy hare]

imagine being in a guild

[graceful charm]

I wanna minmax the games tho, need fast games.

[stray sigil]

listen i wanna pretend i have friends

[graceful charm]

Friends

[clear pulsar]

Some other ones on alliance like uh Ninth Circle

[stray sigil]

hmm i do think kyrian is better for fast games

[edgy shale]

convoke on opener, if it doesn't kill just /afk

[clear pulsar]

Also garbage

[stray sigil]

lucky crits in opener

they are donezo

[tardy hare]

: )

[stray sigil]

i wish i was low cr i bet itd be pretty fun to watch some of these openers

[tardy hare]

am climbing too fast

i need to drop again soon

[stray sigil]

ya high mmr is actually aids

only q into war teams

makes me wanna blow my head off

[edgy shale]

[graceful charm]

Drop then unless u want sinful G

[stray sigil]

war , ret or mage everygame

[tardy hare]

dude

[stray sigil]

i dont care for r1

[tardy hare]

its actually so annoying

[stray sigil]

at all lol

[tardy hare]

meeting warrior/hpal in 2s

even at 1600

its a drag

[clear pulsar]

Rank 1 grind some degen shit tbh

Especially when you're not fully there mentally like fuji

[stray sigil]

i dont have time for that shit anyways

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

and im not good enough

facts sctually

i am a savant

[graceful charm]

Savant u should be a lfg hero then, just find random players in lfg

Ppl would be scared

[stray sigil]

i do do that in 2s

but then

i have to play war hpal

[graceful charm]

(:

[stray sigil]

and want to kill myself

[clear pulsar]

Xfer alliance we slay double feral 2s

[graceful charm]

I mean i cant stand lfg

At all

[stray sigil]

xfer horde u rucking noob

[clear pulsar]

I can offheal big now

[stray sigil]

and we can q double feral

[clear pulsar]

@tiny oar

[stray sigil]

stop ur alliance nonesense

even lakerz is horde

[graceful charm]

I honestly feel bad for ppl that are stuck in lfg

[clear pulsar]

Nelf is goated bro

Also my mogged back piece remained after I went back night fae

[stray sigil]

that is a trash mog

go back horde no shot

[graceful charm]

Savant u are not allowed to comment on anyones mog

[stray sigil]

ill teach you how to mog

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/who-tf-asked-nasas-radar-dish-who-asked-nobody-asked-gif-17675657

[stray sigil]

bro call me fuji

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

calling me savant makes me feel weird

like im god or somet

[tardy hare]

u are

[edgy shale]

ur a savant.

[tardy hare]

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

it only makes sense to call a savant, savant

[graceful charm]

This does not look like a god

[stray sigil]

i mesn fuck it true

[tardy hare]

thats my exact image

of a god

[stray sigil]

ur not wrong

it is a goated mog

for sure

[clear pulsar]

Honestly

10/10 mog

[stray sigil]

i do get compliments all the time

[clear pulsar]

Bruh why the fuck is the int nfae vendor weapon a mace

Terrible mogs

Nevermind found a perfect match

[tardy hare]

bro

u need the 2 wooden sticks

this one

[clear pulsar]

That's a staff tho no?

[tardy hare]

no

thats a 1h mace

[clear pulsar]

For 1h mace I have a torch and an unlit torch

[tardy hare]

and an offhand

[clear pulsar]

And offhand I have a torch too

Nothing else noteworthy

This star maybe?

[queen copper]

FFFF

[clear pulsar]

What's the main hand called? @tardy hare

[tardy hare]

giant club

should be on AH

off hand is apple-bent bough

[clear pulsar]

Hmmm 2 big sticks one 1 big 1 smol

[tacit sedge]

quick question does anyone know how much 1 stamina is in hp? i know that the cloak enchant with the movementspeed gives 3% more speed but how much hp do we lose?

couldnt find anything for that

[clear pulsar]

21 hp per stamina

Give or take

Just swap items you have and subtract bro

[tacit sedge]

yeah was too lazy to do that but i just calculated it 5min ago xD thanks anyway

its exactly 20btw

[clear pulsar]

Yeah you right

Looking at character sheet tho swapping one item dropped me 44 stamina even tho the diff of stamina in the items was 42 only

That's why I said give or take

[tardy hare]

2 big ones ofcourse

[clear pulsar]

I just dumped 320 marks of honor on pvp weapon sets

[tardy hare]

pog

[clear pulsar]

The apple bent bough has a yellow shine

That the main hand one doesnt have

[tardy hare]

just put enchant on

with shine

[clear pulsar]

I guess I can do that

[neon eagle]

As guardian should I start by getting rings and neck etc with conquest gear or armour pieces?

[tardy hare]

[clear pulsar]

@tardy hare is there a big one like that for 2h?

[edgy shale]

tf u cant even see what is going on cuz its just huge crits

[primal bane]

think every class should be able to do this

[clear pulsar]

Aight we in it

[primal bane]

in fact if we merged CC abilities with nuke cooldowns a lot of classes could do this

[clear pulsar]

Pls dont talking

Post mog

Stop nonsense talk

[edgy shale]

that really looks like ur gonna fly after sum1s ass and just beat them down with those sti cks

[primal bane]

a GM is absolutely rigging my account

[clear pulsar]

Thats what I look like in resto and balance only, in feral and guardian I have diff mogs

[tardy hare]

No

[clear pulsar]

I've spent like 80k gold on mogs off AH this week

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

@edgy shale show mog

[edgy shale]

my mog atm is literally just my gear, im actually too lazy. gimme some time and ill come up with 1 and post it

[clear pulsar]

Okie

[edgy shale]

ur gonna be blown away

[clear pulsar]

I've been hardcore farming mogs for the last 4 days bro

Did some attunement quest chain in outland took me 1.5h

[edgy shale]

i was a mog / mount maniac in the time leading up to shadowlands, but now im super bored of it

now that there's actual shit to do lol

[clear pulsar]

I took like a 3month break then

Didnt play prepatch at all fuck that noise

[edgy shale]

yeah prepatch was super boring as they tend to be lol, so i just took the time to catch up on some mogs / mounts that are easy to get that i hadn't gotten around to

like bruce, my legit fav mount

[clear pulsar]

Bruce seems lit

Altho we have vicious croc now

[surreal elbow]

another round of ret paladins oneshotting entire teams https://twitter.com/FortiXqt/status/1359464886464622595?s=20 upvote this shit cuz rets need to fr be stopped

Forti (@FortiXqt)

@Blizzard_Ent @Warcraft you keep nerfing the wrong shit, you nerfing classes that can't oneshot a full group when legit ret paladin is stil here doing it, are you ever gonna fix it or what? this is literally more urgent than early-SL sub rogues https://t.co/MO3AHgfTUO

▶ Play video

Twitter · Feb 10, 2021, 11:31 AM

[clear pulsar]

Nice try

Trying to get some clout on social media

[surreal elbow]

not clout

i want this video

to get to blizzard

cuz holy fuck

[clear pulsar]

I know bro

[surreal elbow]

why they nerfed sub rogues oneshotting 1 player

when a ret

can oneshot 10 people

at once

[clear pulsar]

Ret is absurd, ww fire and ele can also just 100-0 you in that type of time frame

[tardy hare]

Because sub oneshot you in the first stun

While ret doesnt

Unless youre literally afk

[surreal elbow]

@tardy hare did you even

watch?

https://clips.twitch.tv/PiercingHyperAnteaterWutFace

[tardy hare]

Yes

[clear pulsar]

Machtig plays with a ret so

[tardy hare]

I have seen it

[clear pulsar]

Don't try to reason with him

He's too far gone

[tardy hare]

I dont play with a ret

[surreal elbow]

dude he's a ret pala main

i swear to god

[tardy hare]

Sub rogue was by far more dumb than ret

[crimson mason]

hey guys is the activated pvp trinket with 1 min cd BiS for boomkin, even though crit is the least useful stat?

[clear pulsar]

All the pvp trinkets are good to play

Well the 700 conq ones

For cc break just medallion

But badge is good, can play insignia too

[surreal elbow]

sub never killed if you did something @tardy hare problem is if you didnt react 1 player dies

for ret

if you don't react

[clear pulsar]

Or emblem

[tardy hare]

Xd

[surreal elbow]

3 players die

[tardy hare]

If you did anything

Lol

[clear pulsar]

Nah sub had the same type of one shot

[tardy hare]

Trinket first cheap shot?

[clear pulsar]

100%

[tardy hare]

R u mad

[clear pulsar]

Ret burst is bizarre but so was sub pre-nerf

[surreal elbow]

ret burst is worse

sub burst could never

ONE

SHOT

A

TEAM

[edgy shale]

lol why r u freaking out

[tardy hare]

My convoke can oneshot a team

If they are afk

[edgy shale]

sub rogue was completely bonkers broken and needed to be nerfed

[tardy hare]

Just like the enemies of this ret

[edgy shale]

one broken thing doesn't make another broken thing not broken

[surreal elbow]

convoke is not press wings and press buttons

[crimson mason]

yeah Id much rather have the activated trinket rather than the proc one, but one gives crit and the other haste

[surreal elbow]

it needs to be set up or they just stun it

[tardy hare]

Imagine

[surreal elbow]

incap it

[tardy hare]

Seeing ret pala

[surreal elbow]

interrupt it

[tardy hare]

With salt water pot

Berserk

Couple other stacked buffs

And wings walk at you

Lol

[surreal elbow]

you'd be dead the moment you looked into his eyes

[tardy hare]

Yes

[edgy shale]

so walk other direction mayhaps

[tardy hare]

I can 100-0 people with a single bite with those buffs too

And i can bite a couple times in a row

[surreal elbow]

sigh you really comparing feral to ret man

[unreal jewel]

Macht

[tardy hare]

Rets

[unreal jewel]

How dare you

[surreal elbow]

go ahead and show a clip of you hitting 16k,10k,10k,13k,10k in 1 global

with 1 button

that cant be stopped

[tardy hare]

[surreal elbow]

then slapping an aoe 15k that oneshots 2 people

and slap a 26k verdict

[clear pulsar]

Also pro fucking tip

You can still use essences in old world content

BOTE + Convoke = lit

[tardy hare]

Lmao

[clear pulsar]

I just logged on lvl 50 dh to try and get a mog

BOTE Hunt

[unreal jewel]

I forgive you ❤️

[tardy hare]

[obtuse ice]

Koukis bis

[junior plover]

I don't have an issue with an average outcome of ret sub or boomie

The problem I and I can imagine a lot of people have

Is that there is a certain % chance

That you just lose the game

Because they got a proc

Or crit

Or w/e

[edgy shale]

we were talking about pre-nerf sub

[junior plover]

Yeah that was obv bonkers

[edgy shale]

but ret is beyond discusting too ya

i hate % chances to just die

[junior plover]

Generally

There should be no rng in pvp other than crits

I feel very strongly about this

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

And crits should just be more often in pvp rather than deal more damage

Idk why they specifically made pvp crit more highroll

[edgy shale]

wait wat do u mean

[junior plover]

Isn't crit extra effective in pvp this xpac?

Or is it just in all content

I thought they increased critical damage by 50%

[edgy shale]

idk, maybe cuz of the removal of scaling? i thought crits did like 1.75 or 1.5 dmg in pvp or some shit

[junior plover]

But idk

[edgy shale]

face would know somtin like that

[junior plover]

True

@clear pulsar i need a hero

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's buffed from bfa

But still nerfed from pve value

It's 175% rn in pvp

[winter spindle]

The new Fleshcraft looks pretty good: 30% dmg reduction, 40% hp shield and CC immunity...

[primal bane]

they reworking it?

na u fucking with me

its probably the marileth final unlock

[long hamlet]

Hey but confused about patch notes , are they upping the spells that convoke puts out?

[primal bane]

oh wow

yeah they actually buffed it

after ppl told me

that a 20% shield that you most likely wont get to cast twice

is somehow better than infinite amounts of mobility or kyrian potion

[clear pulsar]

Where are people seeing this convoke update tho @vestal citrus even if just some tooltip fuckery

[grand mesa]

It was on wowhead

The class changes for new patch

[clear pulsar]

There's nothing about convoke

In any wowhead post

About ptr

Ok

Do people not realize their convokes are 16 spells rn?

[half kraken]

Hello... Question. I wanna play "Memory of the Timeworn Dreambinder". Is it good to play this legendary with NF?

I've been stuck at 1,3k rating.

[queen copper]

It’s fine yes

It won’t get you magically past 1.3k

[half kraken]

Does this legendary change my rotation somehow? I mean opener is pretty obv

[queen copper]

You just get a lot of ap and press starsurge 4 times

As opposed to boat where u get eclipse and press ss 3 times

It’s very strong during incarn - 20% buffed surges hit like a truck

[half kraken]

Ok... ty! And question about opener tho... I usually just go stealth and go convoke+incarn with my hpally giving me aura mastery

If there's some melee we cc

Thats fine right?

[clear pulsar]

You still want to go into eclipse regardless of legendary if you can afford the time to hardcast the 2 spells ofc

You can get 5 surges in a row if you start at full and use Fury of Elune also, with Dreambinder

[clear pulsar]

It's fine to get kills like that but you gotta get this idea of a set opener rotation out of your head tbh

[tall knoll]

For the first convoke it doesnt matter because CA is up. But doing it every time is not the best... yeah

[clear pulsar]

You also need cross CC out when you do something like that

As much dmg as a CAvoke does

People can just use defensives and heals

To live thru it

Unless you get very lucky

[tall knoll]

You can also just incap roar into cyclone

[half kraken]

Why is this opener no good? How else should we do it? 😄

[tall knoll]

Or solar beam, mass roots etc

[half kraken]

@forest kite true

[tall knoll]

Its arena. Its all about trading offensive and defensive cds

Go defensive when the enemy pops offensive cds. Cyclone, kite, peel for your healer

[clear pulsar]

It's not a pve patchwerk fight where you get this 'opener rotation' in your head and repeat that every pull you know?

[tall knoll]

Cross-cc is the biggest one probably

[queen copper]

Don’t you just win by pressing convoke??

[tall knoll]

Play with ret, press all buttons at once. If someones dead win. If not ff?

[opaque adder]

hey, a prolly 100th time asked question but cant find it in pins....can boomie and fire mage work to like 1800 maybe in 2s for total newbs/noobs/newbies?

[tall knoll]

Yes you can

You can even climb with a mistweaver to 1800

[opaque adder]

asking cause buddy wont go healer, only wants to play mage and i dont wanna go rogue

[cinder saddle]

anyone know about this silithus leveling farm

[junior plover]

Yeah there's a bunch of these

[opaque adder]

thank you!

[queen copper]

Nit for noobs/newbs/noobies but may for pro/professionals/pr05

[junior plover]

They forgot to swap values from beta in lots of strings

[queen copper]

If you can work together well you can get many comps to 1800

[clear pulsar]

Mage rdru is pretty good. But mage boomie should be more than playable for 1800, double dps is just different, more chaotic and less forgiving than healer + dps 2v2.

[tall knoll]

Plus its very setup based. And its really bad if you dont communicate

Definetly not noob-friendly like a ret stunning you and pressing his 4 buttons

[opaque adder]

depends what you mean by communicate....does me shouting at him with: will you just set someone on fire" while running around arena counts? :D

[queen copper]

https://gyazo.com/b797e1498b6961f7a8a133b19557da18

[tall knoll]

Is poly and cyclone on the same dr? I dont even know

But stuff like who ccs whom. When to go for a kill and pop cds on what target. Thats the stuff i mean

For example you go for a cyclone setup with incap. Then your mage sheeps his target for whatever reason. You pop convoke because you just got that sick cyclone. Only for convoke do spam 12 healing spells because the target is sheeped

Definetly hasnt happened yesterday to me..

[opaque adder]

ah kk, yeah will take time to start communicate properly and to learn...just 1800 is like 3k for us at the moment so just wanna ask if im wasting time cause its not possible

heheheh

happens to me every torghast start of the week run

first mini boss -> lemme just root you while i convoke .... yeee ok lets go again

[tall knoll]

Stuff like that yes

[opaque adder]

kk...i know cyclone and DB share dr and Sheep and Bear fear ... not sure tho

sheep and cyclone are on separate dr

[tall knoll]

Ability team tracker (know what cds are up for team) and gladiatorlossa helped me a lot. Im not a fan of omnibar so having audio queue with lossa is perfect for me

[opaque adder]

thanks!

[tall knoll]

The big difference btw us peasants in lower ranks and glad is mostly just game sense. Knowing what cds every player has atm. What cc trinket is down. What cds all classes have in general. What to look out for etc

[summer field]

whats the better soulbind in ardenweld for boomkin?

[queen copper]

Niya

[tall knoll]

Talent tree? Niya

[fathom oxide]

is it worth sacrificing ilvl for vers?

[summer field]

what about korayn ? 3% damage reduction seems nice

[queen copper]

Usually but depends

[tardy hare]

https://gyazo.com/cc17d2c9e839af93e215de90d53231a2

[opaque adder]

wouldnt know...didnt do much pvp outside random bgs 😄 😄 ... right now, with 7% versa, it feels like just getting all pvp gear is glad title worth 😛 😛

[fathom oxide]

what happend

[tardy hare]

i exploded

[fathom oxide]

why 😄

landmine?

[tardy hare]

too much rotational speed

[fathom oxide]

[clear pulsar]

Bro skirms are wildland

I love it

[fathom oxide]

i asume u guys dont like the valor points

[clear pulsar]

Why would that be the case

It's not even a pvp system

[fathom oxide]

because u wanted pvp to be the main source of good loot

😄

but then again i guess its only 220

[weak hinge]

i love valor points. quicker way to gear up

there are some nice vers pieces from m+

[tall knoll]

I stopped running m+ because it was so unrewarding. But now i might run them more often :)

[placid mirage]

Pvp players don't want It To be the only source of good loot lol wtf u on

They just want it to be one source of good loot

[tall knoll]

Pvp players want it to be viable at least. And not have to pve all day to be relevant in pvp

[trail crane]

hunter can't attack in los except for rapid fire right ?

[tall knoll]

Pretty sure the kyrian covenant ability also lets them do that

[wise valley]

@vestal citrus sick mog

Flower power

[forest kite]

whats the best soulbind for nightfae for feral pvp? I was playing Niya but Korayn looks interesting

[barren raven]

What's a good leg to craft for pvp boomie?

Running fae currently have boat

[placid mirage]

Boat is fine

[kindred dragon]

With the coming necrolord buffs it’s seeming unavoidable to be necro for pvp rDruid. I also like PVE though....is mythic + as necro Druid passable? Or should I just commit to a new pve Alt?

[haughty compass]

Yea it’s totally fine

[barren raven]

I have 3.7k soul ash though so if there's something better, I'd rather craft that

Either this week or next week to go straight for rank 4

[placid mirage]

The only other competitive boomie lego is timeworn dreambinder however it's useless in pve and either equivalent or slightly better pvp

But mostly better at high CR

[clear pulsar]

I really dislike BOAT tbh

[placid mirage]

Boat won't hold you back from 2.4 if you play well

[barren raven]

What about circle?

[clear pulsar]

Circle is not good for pvp

[barren raven]

oof

[clear pulsar]

If you have BOAT at max already

Dreambinder is a good 2nd leggo to make and give a try

[placid mirage]

Boat gives you better convokes dreambinder gives better consistent go timings

[haughty compass]

I dunno, everytime I eclipse I can kill someone with boat

[alpine matrix]

Boat is the best Night fae leggo while Timeworn is best Kyrian leggo

[paper plover]

WHY DOES MY FRIEND'S RAKE NOT STUN OUT OF STEALTH ALWAYS?

hes feral, sorry for caos

caps

[forest kite]

could anyone point me to a macro (as feral) that is one button for vortex/roar/typhoon?

[rich crag]

It only stuns in stealth perhaps that's why of if you mean it's not doing it while in stealth there might have been something that caused that.

Did he auto attack first? did he get pulled out?

[paper plover]

he was in stealth

it happens a lot

[clear pulsar]

Stun DR

Some immunity

Macrod something along with Rake that breaks stealth

Taken out of stealth before could Rake

We don't know the circumstances bro

[junior plover]

Wait

dampen in 2v2

is back to 0

bug?

If not bless your soul blizzard

[clear pulsar]

Hm are you sure it's healer vs healer?

[junior plover]

Yes

100%

Hunter Priest game ended on 23% dampen

[tiny tusk]

Are the torghast wings chosen randomly every week

Mans been waiting for skoldus

[teal hinge]

Do the twisting corridor

And get what you need

[tiny tusk]

Yea but apparently the boat legendary drops in skoldus

[cold escarp]

what trinket best to pair wtih pvp trinket (conquest)?

the badge has crit im not sure about it

[obtuse ice]

Wait

[obtuse ice]

Venthyr is good now< ?

[green thicket]

How we feeling about Oath leggo on a Rdruid for arenas?(2s)

[timid nest]

Twisting Corridors layers are selected randomly in the pool, you can go in and reset TC until you have a Skoldus map, do it, and get your legendary

[rancid pebble]

I enjoy it, but I’m not really high rating. The movement speed increase and/or extra damage reduction is nice in addition to getting heart for 10 seconds every minute

[primal bane]

whats there to do once you hit 220+

[long hamlet]

is there going to be competition now that Koryns first strike ability can be reached with renown? vs Nya for balance druids

[clear pulsar]

It's a meme, not actually better than the good options, but some people seem to like it and you can get any rating without a legendary at all so

If you need a defensive leggo, natural orders will is better

If you need a damage leggo, circle or draught are more reliable

I made oath this week and the biggest issue I'd found with it seems to be very real, sometimes I don't want to go in and smash, I just wanna use cat form to kite, or to move to a diff pillar, shift a poly/root/slow, and then it'll proc hotw and put it on cd.

[tardy hare]

Murder kids without 220+ ilvl

[forest kite]

True

[primal bane]

i just did a whole ass 10/10 clear

[forest kite]

I just got my last pvp slot filled so I’m officially 220 all pvp gear

[primal bane]

for one item drop and 0 conduits

they needa boost pve drops

[forest kite]

They are

[primal bane]

good

[tardy hare]

Me too but i am 227

[dreamy hornet]

I feel like as a feral I have to play really good almost flawless to achiev a good result.
While I play as other melee specs I can just do the basic.

The amount of skill that takes to play as Feral should be better rewarded.

[primal bane]

it was interesting to see a slower pace, but now peolpe who already capped their gear abuse the shit out of it

is 227 cap?

[forest kite]

Damn nice! I’m not good enough for 2100. This is my first pvp season

[tardy hare]

Ye

[primal bane]

u sure? i swear i saw a 228/229

[forest kite]

I’m just a trash casual

[tardy hare]

Omw to murder your low ilvl ass

[forest kite]

Bring it on. You think you can murder me in bear affinity?

GL

[tardy hare]

Perhaps with mythic sire denathrius items

[hardy cargo]

You can reach 228 with pvp/mythic raid items

[tardy hare]

A challenge. Fantastic

227.3 highest you can get with exclusively pvping

[primal bane]

pvp players are being disadvantaged once again

[tardy hare]

[tall knoll]

You can get the weapon up to 233. Thats it as far as im aware

[foggy ravine]

1 ilvl is not game changing

lmao

[primal bane]

i need to gather my entire strength of will

to start doing m+

[hardy cargo]

Because pve doesn't have abysmal drop rates and the only ppl doing mythic denathrius on farm arent already high in pvp

[primal bane]

i think its the best way to get fast gear

[hardy cargo]

No

It aint lol

M+ gives worse gear than heroic raid

[primal bane]

and a heroic raid clear unless you got people happily taking your undergeared ass

will take a minimum of 3 hours

for 1 drop avg

assuming you need no more than 2 attempts per boss

[clear pulsar]

This is cap

Feral's not that special bro

[hardy cargo]

End of week vault only gives up to 226 which is ~the same as high ranked pvp anyways

[primal bane]

hm? my heroic vaults gave 213

well the only 1 i unlocked at least

[hardy cargo]

M+ vault

[primal bane]

ye that one is amazing

if you do like a fuckton of +9-+11

you will get 205 ilvl in a day

and also have some insanely nice loot for the week

or at least in a perfect world

ive been playing for nearly 2 months with 0 weapon drops

[hardy cargo]

11 is only 220 ilvl at end of week ?

[tardy hare]

My char isnt gonna have any gear changes until next season

Hella pog

[primal bane]

nah +10 is 220

[tardy hare]

Stomp on ALL the kids

[hardy cargo]

What abt leech upgrades

[tardy hare]

M u r d e r

[primal bane]

but you dont even need to time a +10 so its not bad

[tardy hare]

[hardy cargo]

Unless you already have full leech

[tardy hare]

I have 40% leech

Jk

If only

Thatd be big meme

[hardy cargo]

Lol

Is that even possible

[tardy hare]

I mean i could get sockets

But

I am not gonna bother with maw every day

[hardy cargo]

I know 15% is

[tardy hare]

No clue

[foggy ravine]

yes beacuse you can do a +10 world tour on a fresh toon

a kekw

[primal bane]

honestly man nothing will compare with BFA 8.0

[hardy cargo]

If you have a guild carry m a y b e

[tardy hare]

I'll show you a world tour if i ever meet you in Ardenweald

[trail crane]

fresh toons got 197 gear from covenants so yes

[primal bane]

wpvp through every zone while tagging random mobs for azerite quests

that was the life

[foggy ravine]

😳

[primal bane]

oh yeah almost forgot i could get full 197 now

whats better, honor 197 gear or campaign 197 gear

[tall knoll]

In regards to alts you have to get your renown up for either of those. I just took all the gear campaign stuff i could get and upgrade along the way. Some mythic items mixed in and then upgrade to conquest from there

But honor gear is generally better because of stats. Only 1 choice for campaign items per slot

[blissful belfry]

isnt leech/avoidance/speed from gear voided in arenas?

[clear pulsar]

Tertiary procs were in bfa yeah

I havent got one all of shadowlands so idk now

[primal bane]

how do you afk epic BGs without getting kicked

[west crypt]

stealth, pretending to play d

[primal bane]

so i cant really chill and famr honor :(

[quartz idol]

[tiny tusk]

Thank you king 🙏

[hardy cargo]

Stealth and play a harp while barely paying attention is superior

Always need to be playing a harp on defense in bgs, no exceptions.

[lime light]

You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers and say, “That’s the bad guy"

[fathom oxide]

How is the trinket that gives u hp for 2s? i see alot of rdruids on the ladder use it

emblem

[austere star]

Man I do not understand why people complain about convoke when Divine Toll exists

[lime light]

almost same rng

can carry way above their normal rating

[austere star]

It’s crazy, you cannot line or silence it, so if the casino is lucky you win

[primal bane]

emotional response

people value and care more about the extreme situations than the average result

[haughty compass]

I’ve been just beating teams without even using convoke, the mind games are fun

[primal bane]

paladin 1 shotting/doing unhealable dmg every single game? pretty normal

convoke speedrunning your team in 3s? will never forget

yeah holding convoke is already strong in itself

[haughty compass]

One of my team mates quit so I’ve tanked a little playing with my mistweaver friend