I'll consider that
#pvp
clear pulsar
surreal elbow
i mean elite set prob looks nice on nelf
its beyond garbage on taurens
DUDE THAT IS WAY BETTER
WYM
clear pulsar
It's aight on male nelf
Also
Legion s7 elite set looks nice on tauren
Primal elite is the watermelon set? @vestal citrus
clear pulsar
Set to feral lootspec
tiny oar
its called nelf honey
surreal elbow
i meant on horde
tiny oar
u just gotta be alli lol
surreal elbow
xD
tiny oar
yea i need vulpera druid
surreal elbow
monkaS
sad part is i can't think of any race that could be added with druid as an available class
tiny oar
pandas should be druids tho fr
surreal elbow
i told my ex that and she said it would be racist :| i never found out why
i said that bearform should be normal big pandabears
cat form could be fox pandas
cuz they smaller
likes foolproof
anyone have any good tauren mog ideas cuz i fr can't stand this shit
looks disproportionate asf
but it's the only "good" mog i have xd
tiny oar
think u just gotta wear a meme mog as tauren cuz every set looks like pure shit
surreal elbow
that doesn't help anything at all Pepehands
tiny oar
this kinda shit
lime light
Both bad, go to the corner
surreal elbow
sadge
not my fault taurens look garbonzo but is the only race with a racial passive and racial for pvp
dde wtf you don't even have a mog you just hid all the pieces
🤣
monkaS
looks like all taurens in the same boat
we all look like shit
xDDD
proud crest
gotta be highmountain for the 1 % vers, youll get invited to all the link vers groups 
proud crest
youd have 31
desert turtle
but isnt anything past 30 shit 😄
proud crest
idk if DR works on racials
desert turtle
how much mast and crit u have forti
proud crest
its not technically vers rating its just a 1 % slapped on top, but idk how they count it
surreal elbow
i have 30% vers 33% mastery 20% crit 4% haste
@desert turtle
wait no it's like 3 point something something
on haste
desert turtle
26Vers 28 mastery and 21 crit 2 haste, sadly i also had 20 alts before todays change of plans 😄
desert turtle
focus on 20 toons eh +
proud crest
200 ilvl numbers
desert turtle
yeah 202
surreal elbow
ahhhh
its an alt
ok gotcha
i was like yo this man has stats as if i just stripped 5% off my mastery, 4% of my vers and 2% of my haste
monkaS
desert turtle
yeah its punishing to focus too many toons, made change to that earlier today, due the fact that i have disc and feral both wich i enjoy i will focus them and them only
about to delete the distractions of other alts
desert turtle
yeah my rogue is 180ilv .D
desert turtle
i hope i get my disc and feral up to 220 soon
so i can actually play
but now i face 10k+ more hp toons in my arenas
im scared little cat
surreal elbow
i mean i don't hit 18k bites anymore but i just feel like it's better to live than to bite 2k harder
xD
desert turtle
yeah you have a point there
imma try it out and swap it when i know i get tunneled
i played bit more actively on feral back in 2013 when i reached 2k
but now im just pleb
surreal elbow
i mean everything's changed
i stopped before s4 bfa and from s3 bfa to s1 shadowlands is like
monkaS
desert turtle
yeah, i had way too many pve and pvp plans that got ruined
wich left me with every toon 60 and 200ilv 😦
surreal elbow
man i don't even do maw dailies
desert turtle
now if i focus really hard 2-3 weeks i can get my disc and feral workin condition
me neither
only save the souls 😉
surreal elbow
legit my gear could be so much more pog
if it had
a socket in every piece
pepega
desert turtle
i could go play jungle with 220 hunter
tardy hare
desert turtle
is that boosting ?
tardy hare
omw boys
desert turtle
is there any other ferals i could watch besides snupy
snupy is ok but beated by hpal on dps made me laugh 😄
wet nest
resto druid should I go for lots of haste/ or try equal out haste mastery ?
desert turtle
thanks
desert turtle
oof i just noticed everyone running vers mastery lege. im doomed
humble carbon
as balance druid is there any ammount of versa that once reached i should stop going for it n start stacking haste? im 29% versa atm
cold escarp
divine toll is basically convoke but instant huh
crude minnow
10% lower...
clear pulsar
its value is dogshit after 30%
Bro
Yeah dogshit, instead of 28.5 points per 1% it's 31 points per 1%
DOGSHIT BRO
ITS DOGSHIT
Fucking clowns s2g
desert turtle
well im saying what people told to me, who do you call clown there keyboardhero
foggy ravine
Lol
crude minnow
10% effectiveness loss is dogshit
clear pulsar
Was there any question as to who?
crude minnow
Gonna lose games at 31% vers
desert turtle
but still fun fact is that kidds running their mouths when i stated that my comment comes from others,
clear pulsar
So you're repeating that vers is dogshit after hearing from others
Without actually knowing why
They thought that
Clown tbh
foggy ravine
Formulate your own opinions
desert turtle
i knew it loses value but didnt know the numbers 😄
im just amazed how much dogs these communities have
clear pulsar
Yeah all these people spreading misinformation without even actually knowing the information
Pretty crazy out here
Stay safe homie
valid robin
Playing 3s as rdruid mage afflock and we’ve fallen into this pattern of having a solid opener; we get the other team behind a pillar and have strong pressure but then can’t close it out and fame either drags on for another 5-10 min and we eek out a kill or they turn it on us and blow us up
Is there something different we should be doing or going more intense on offense when they’re all behind a pillar or cornered or something
obtuse marsh
What feral leggo for random BG fun?
surreal elbow
bg sounds like fearful symmetry with predator 😂
obtuse marsh
Certainly will help with burst
I wondered whether some people just preferred more defensives
lucid spear
@valid robin I'd suggest recording a few games and checking it out as a team. You can also post some clips on YouTube to get some specific answers here.
valid robin
Okay I will do that, thank you very much
versed coral
I think my favorite time to pop convoke is when people run away from me lol.
obtuse marsh
pick one
Not dying is fun!
My favourite specs for BGs are always the ones that go whole games with 0-1 deaths
tardy hare
yeeting enemies back into the maw is even more fun!
obtuse marsh
lol
blissful belfry
Before the maw mount, id give people a lift on travel form. Jump off into nothingness, owl form sidengage and watch them die
tardy hare
chad
earnest sluice
is vers mastery viable on balance or is vers haste just much better
obtuse marsh
is vers mastery viable on balance or is vers haste just much better
Haste is garbage so...
blissful belfry
All stats are viable. Some.are better, some are worse. But the difference between stats isnt so far as to matter that much. I personnally prefer vers mastery because haste has no impact on convoke
obtuse marsh
You definitely want vers/mastery for Balance
clear pulsar
Lmao haste is garbage???
First we get homeboy saying vers is dogshit past 30%
Now homeboy saying haste is garbage for boomie
candid dragon
Haste is garbage? Wut?
earnest sluice
every single balance player above 2400 in 2's, 3's, and rbgs is vers haste
theres not one that isnt
obtuse marsh
Haste is trash for balance unless you're going for dot damage. Does nothing for your burst
candid dragon
clear pulsar
scenic snow
guys guys guys it's very simple listen
blissful belfry
Well, haste still helps get into eclipse easier and land off clones faster. Triple surge in less time
clear pulsar
That's stupid
blissful belfry
Haste doesnt boost the one shot macro, but it still isnt bad
scenic snow
but there is also a thing called too much haste, keep in mind
clear pulsar
Convoke kills people whether you have 200 or 600 mastery
obtuse marsh
Convoke kills people whether you have 200 or 600 mastery
Yeah, 400 mastery would make no difference. Good one
blissful belfry
If he doesnt die in 2 convoke surge, he has more time to bubble
scenic snow
yeah and you can also kill someone naked if they are afk
why even need stats rofl
fucking plebs
tall knoll
Haste is really good in pvp. Hence why pvpers prioritize haste/vers
earnest sluice
so just looping back to keep this on topic, we think kyrian should stack haste and night fae should stack mastery?
clear pulsar
No
tall knoll
Sim your character for pve.
clear pulsar
Everyone goes more haste than mastery cuz faster globals/cast times matter
Mastery is a good stat for damage
turbid trail
I think nightfae should stack vers+haste
clear pulsar
Haste is a good stat for gameplay
Mostly everyone prefers haste vers in slots where you can pick between haste or mastery as boomie
Mastery is good damage too
tall knoll
In pvp its all about reducing cast time of your spells. Sure more damage is always nice but .3 seconds on your cyclone is huge
clear pulsar
Even thinking about writing a question like 'is it viable to run mastery' is ludicrous tho regardless like
Secondary stat optimization isn't holding you back from rating/climbing
obtuse marsh
Mastery is good damage too
Correction: mastery is worth 50% more for damage and is weighted towards burst. It's not just 'good damage too'. Haste is terrible for damage, it's just good for being more fast and responsive in combat
tall knoll
But more haste means more AP generation. So its not completely useless dmg-wise in pve
clear pulsar
50% more for what damage?
lime light
@clear pulsar hi how is life kiddo
obtuse marsh
Haste is the worst damage stat in pvp. It's still a damage stat but it's the weakest one
obtuse marsh
But more haste means more AP generation. So its not completely useless dmg-wise ...
This is of course true
clear pulsar
This is the pvp channel
obtuse marsh
I meant pvp. Typo
tall knoll
So crit is not the worst stat anymore?
obtuse marsh
Crit loses value really fast because of BoaT but a small amount of crit is good
You wouldnt want crit ahead of mastery though
tall knoll
The only thing about mastery stacking is, that im even more reliant on convoke. If you get ccd for whatever reason in convoke its a big feelsbadman
obtuse marsh
Mastery isnt just convoke
It's all your boat-juiced star surges when you enter eclipses. Your shooting stars etc. All boosted by mastery
tall knoll
Of course but in a lot of situations i cant even keep up eclipse because there are melees on me.
weak hinge
Haste is so much better
clear pulsar
It's just an absurd notion lol
obtuse marsh
Mastery is unquestionably the biggest stat for damage. It's just a case of whether you value haste more for reasons outside of damage
scenic snow
and here's the highest rated Night Fae boomer:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/dentarg/stevou
stacking mastery aswell
in fact if you go look at the top Night Fae boomers in 3v3 leaderboards, they all stack mastery
could link them all to you but too lazy
obtuse marsh
Tbf, F2F is a feral player so you can forgive him not knowing
weak hinge
Kyrian is much better aswell btw
clear pulsar
weak hinge
(:
obtuse marsh
Kyrian is much better aswell btw
I would contest that. Depends on comp for sure
weak hinge
It’s subjective bruh
clear pulsar
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/Prevà
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/tarren-mill/Corkiri
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/Maroxd
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/Dipimoo
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormscale/Lazerftw
obtuse marsh
Kyrian is more versatile
clear pulsar
Are we trying to link armories of rank 1 boomies to show what stats they prefer?
scenic snow
mine were higher rated :3
weak hinge
I think kyrian and haste are way better than mastery and nf
tall knoll
Why though
obtuse marsh
Depends on what rating you're at and what comp you're in. If you're asking in discord you're not a r1 are you? You're probably in the 1600-2400 range and NF imo is better in that range
clear pulsar
mine were higher rated :3
Yours were logged off in their pve gear with no vers and pve trinkets
Also not actually higher rated, no
scenic snow
I picked the highest mastery for meme value, but yeah all the highest rated ones in the leaderboards have more mastery than haste
obtuse marsh
There's a danger of drawing the wrong conclusions when you only look at the very top. Like saying boomy are shit because they saw little tourney play
They're obviously not
but at the very pinnacle of play, it's different
weak hinge
Boomy is shit they need a buff
clear pulsar
It's a wild moment when you're being condescended upon by a dude with negative winrate at 1200 cr
I get too riled up bro
Losing this CS game just to talk in discord
wet owl
U need more mastery for that cs game
scenic snow
scenic snow
imo crit is best for any covenant and class, big number wow
clear pulsar
Nah thats cap
If you're good at the game your surge/bite will crit when it needs to
clear pulsar
Haste is trash for balance unless you're going for dot damage. Does nothing for ...
Idk bro the whole secondary stat 'debate' is pretty silly in general, kinda pointless, to each their own whatever stat they like yeah!? But when my guy's saying stuff like this and 'forgive f2f he doesnt know' it's like, wild bro. It's wild.
My guy's legit negative win rate unranked bro
lime light
amen, hope u win next cs game
obtuse marsh
My guy's legit negative win rate unranked bro
what? That's nonsense
You're just coming across as insecure
tough osprey
2v2s are rough as resto
clear pulsar
You're just coming across as insecure
Shaking in my boots
static pilot
Would you guys choose a haste/vers neck out of vault or crit/vers chest?
I think haste/vers is better stat prio, but my alt has no gear and the chest has more stats
clear pulsar
What spec?
static pilot
balence
safe heart
i picked 207 glad medallion to replace my 197 glad medallion, that felt horrible lol
clear pulsar
Idk I guess it depends on ilvl
static pilot
i've gotten trinkets on almost all of my characters =[. they would be the same il
clear pulsar
You can get a 197 chest from covenant campaign for instance
I mean depends on the ilvl of the items you already have
blissful belfry
I have to agree with face here. Stats debate are so pointless. You arent stuck at shit cr because your haste is higher than your vers or vice versa
blissful belfry
Im about to craft dreambinder to try it out
weak hinge
got dreambinder on ring. im hipster
will switch over to kyrian next week (:
probably will regret it first day
safe heart
shaun i play feral not boomkin but i switched and it feels alot better to me honestly
foggy ravine
Ya I like kyrian a lot more
I mean yes you have to know how to click more than convoke
safe heart
like convoke was fun when it works perfectly but everytime i lost a convoke to like a fear or incap from a monk or something, it feels baddd lol
weak hinge
getting convoked kicked and eating people with boat + niya mastery is what i will miss the most
blissful belfry
Yeah the reason i always stutter to switch dreambinder is convoke one shot. People with 3 IQ in my guild complain 24/7 about how overpowered convoke is, while sitting at 12 games played this season. I just keep convoking to tilt noobs like em
they'd see a clip on twitch or on youtube ''ITS BUSTED NEEEERF'' okay chum
there are insane clips out there about any classes. Have you guys seen these ret clips? Like the mes one
safe heart
yeah the rets dont even need a set up, just waddle up and hit you for 15k
blissful belfry
all his cd, divine toll with the conduit triple judge proc, final reckoning, verdict to finish the last
rich crag
yeah i just levelled my ret to 60 lol it's nuts even without that haha
safe heart
why does blizzard love paladins so much bro
clear pulsar
rich crag
Ret sucks compared to feral at torghast though haha
safe heart
they cant stealth past 90% of it, id kill myself if i couldnt
wooden tide
anyone know how much honor it costs to upgrade conquest gear? i cant find this info anywhere online
trying to see if i have enough honor to upgrade two pieces to 213
safe heart
i think its like 1000ish for most pieces?
wooden tide
per ilvl upgrade?
safe heart
i think so yeah
but i havent upgraded past 207 yet so
not 100% certain, just giving ballpark
foggy ravine
it gets more expensive
steady sigil
foor boomie its vers mastery ? or haste
blissful belfry
face, prepared. you have been summoned
wet owl
wooden tide
thank you!!!
blissful belfry
the bold numbers in the 200 collumn are the conquest cost
lime light
please check your nickname on my channel, and spell it properly thank u @blissful belfry
surreal heron
your channel
blissful belfry
Im sorry, you are right tianton. i actually didnt write the s at the end
i prefer without the s, but on my realm the name was taken by an unplayed toon
: (
there you go
˙noʎ ɟo puᴉʞun ʎllɐǝɹ sᴉ ʇI ˙oɥʇ ǝɯɐu ʇuǝɔᴉɟᴉuƃɐɯ ʎɯ ɥʇᴉʍ ǝɯ ƃuᴉɹǝɥʇoq noʎ ǝɹɐ ʎɥM
surreal heron
clear pulsar
It's not easy being the greatest rbger alive
native totem
hey gamers, so I've been trying to push rating, and I've been exclusively playing with pugs. Do you guys think this is a mistake? should I be prioritizing finding a consistent group to push with?
clear pulsar
Yes
stray sigil
ofc i get worst vault possible
clear pulsar
Haha same
I got adap + both rings I already have
From pvp options
Took an int offhand from m+
wet owl
Make sure that group stacks mastery
stray sigil
@clear pulsar legit had to take stygia lol
clear pulsar
stray sigil
ig i do get a socket but
clear pulsar
How much stygia is it?
stray sigil
ya but i dont pve only pvp vault
clear pulsar
Unlucky
clear pulsar
I'd prob take insignia too for pve or something
lime light
rat
smoky hull
which soulbind are you guys using as balance?
marsh orbit
What talents i run on rbg as bear?
vague mural
i wonder how good korayn feral + incarn as nelf will be
edgy shale
this is tians channel
lime light
thanks for your services
junior plover
i wonder how good korayn feral + incarn as nelf will be
Incarn is disgustingly weak
in feral
junior plover
Does it just reset on combat?
stray sigil
@lime light 
lime light
RATTATAI
incarn is not weak, weak are ppl that dont belive in vision of perfection incarn build
junior plover
Hmmm
Mage got full heal out of iceblock
i press brutal slash
he died
Wonder what the fuck happened
some seed glitch maybe
Ah it was alter time
kek
alter timed at 90hp pre block
big brain mage
slim robin
Anyone got a good fc/guardian build please? :3
surreal elbow
https://twitter.com/FortiXqt/status/1359207172245254146?s=20 upvote the living shit out of this so we can remove 25k dps rets
Twitter
junior plover
dkek
surreal elbow
they desserve
to get gutted
as hard as sub rogues
sub rogues could never global a whole team
rets can
dusty sphinx
This looks about as bad as the beta ele feedback loop that could global teams :P
lime light
ret not even viable spec
native totem
how should i go about finding consistent partners for arena?
surreal elbow
as terrible as this sounds lfg is the best spot unless you have a guild @native totem
there are gems among all the pebbles
if you get what i mean
native totem
ok that makes sense, I do have a guild, but idk if many people in my guild are especially into pvp @surreal elbow
surreal elbow
pve guild?
some of them probably want to start with pvp aswell they just haven't gotten to do it yet
depending on how far you've come if you both start frm scratch together it should be chill
or if you 3 if you manage to gather a group of 3 from the guild
native totem
interesting, that's actually probably true since I'm probably not the only one that wants to benefit from pvp gearing. @surreal elbow lemme ask you another question, when it comes to actually climbing rating, do you think the main important thing would be just to put in the hours? or should I be prioritizing research?
surreal elbow
if you're completely new, there's alot of new concepts that you need to fully adapt
you pve alot right?
native totem
tbh, I not really that new to pvp, I hit 2k rating with disc priest pugging in 8.1, but even so I still feel like I have a lack of a plan, and I'm just winging it when I neter matches
surreal elbow
then you should be more than fine, just first expansion as druid?
native totem
yeah first time maining boomy @surreal elbow
surreal elbow
alright now depending on what you wanna do you might wanna have a look around and see what classes people actually play along with boomies
cuz no matter how depressing it sounds some comps are just almost impossible to pull off
native totem
I've heard hpal is really good with boomy, as well as just (insertcaster)
so you think it would be important to make sure I"m playing with certain comps? @surreal elbow
surreal elbow
not necessarily just make sure you don't play something rly awkward that'll probably never be able to climb with, but ngl as a boomie i guess you have a pretty broad choice anyway
i've seen boomies play with things from rogues, to shamans, to hpalas, to ret palas, and all kinds o shit
hell its the shittiest healer this expansion but there's mistweaver+boomies above 2.2
props to the mistweaver, every time i see them and they get caught in a stun with no trinket they just die instantly
native totem
ok makes alot of sense, tyvm for ur time, I've got some stuff to work with, I know it might be a big ask, but do you think I might be able to pm you if I have some questions? cause I'm really trying to be able to climb rating but feel like resources in terms of this are a bit sparse @surreal elbow
surreal elbow
you might wanna ask some of the others cuz all my knowledge is legit just me talking to a boomie in voice call rn, personally i'm a feral druid
and this dude won't be here to have you ask me and me to ask him and him answering me so i can answer you all the time
hahaha
native totem
lmao understandable, I mean I wonder whether or not skills are mostly transferable between specs in arena, I feel like my issue in arena kind of comes down to general awareness @surreal elbow
surreal elbow
i mean sure the goals are the same, trade cds, apply pressure, stop healer from healing low targets, attempt go's to kill people by cc'ing healers etc
everyone just has different abilities to deal with it
like ik what to watch out for when fighting boomies but i have no idea how to play one optimaly myself
foggy ravine
boomy is all kiting and controling the fight inbetween your burst windows
native totem
I've actually found what feels to be a pretty decent channel when it comes to boomy(SupaTease), and it seems like rn the meta is just grasping for survival at all, and putting out pressure is a secondary thing
foggy ravine
then ya link some fat cc on the healer and press delete
native totem
actually I have a rather specific question about that
surreal elbow
like alot of heavy caster classes, know when to be engaging, when to be pealing and when to be dragging or running etc
native totem
when ur ranged, fighting other ranged, what would be appropriate positioning?
surreal elbow
between go's i suppose standing close to pillars shifting between behind them and beside them to get casts off, make AP for your go's and just punish when they push in or push in when you know you can land cc's and get damage out
depends what you're playing with aswell i guess when or not you'll be doing the different things
watching high rated players streaming is a good yes on the list
cuz you get to adapt how they react to things and when they push in or not etc
eternal garnet
Are there any kyrians here that play guardian in RBG that could tell me what soulbind they play
native totem
@surreal elbow epic, thanks for helping me out m8, really appreciate it
twilit siren
are mouseover macros suppose to work on bge addon frames?
cold linden
in pvp i see quite a few different legendaries used for boomkin is there no clear cut best?
surreal elbow
i see boat being played the most
idk
some playing lycara to get barkskin
but sounds clunky xD
don't get me wrong i see why but it just sounds kinda weirdchamp
blissful belfry
there is 2 choice. Boat or dreambinder
candid star
Circle of life and death a good passive dmg boost to your dots
gusty phoenix
burrs or niya's herbs for boomy rbgs?
candid star
Both are shit but probably choose burs
blissful belfry
You dont boost your dots. You dont play boomy to rot
uneven coral
Anyone know how to druid flag carry in 2200+mmr?
tardy hare
grab flag
rogue stealth yes> press incarn
no> dont press incarn
run
enemy presses cds > you press cds
done
walk on top of flag spot
1/3
repeat till 3/3
or time runs out
foggy ravine
And don’t out range your own healers
uneven coral
Do you spec boomkin or guardian? and what leggo do you use?
twilit siren
major rogue cd is the 1 min recharge thing or 3min?
hardy cargo
You can boomkin affinity for epic wild charge flaps
Wild charge flaps is an actual thing?
I dont play boomy nor boomy affinity but this just sounds hilarious
tardy hare
Wild charge flaps is an actual thing?
yeah, think some use the trinket from ny'alotha too
turbid trail
Do you guys press starfall in rbgs? I saw some boomies, that think that their goal is to drain mana from enemy healers with starfalls and dots.
lime light
thats so wrong
all of it
u kill enemys
and take a flag
when they are ded
hooow do u lose
hardy cargo
I cant think of a flag carry situation where you'd want to really use flap outside twin peaks
tardy hare
there isnt any other situation no
also only if you're horde side
so u can flap to ur own base
hardy cargo
Balanced maps
foggy ravine
Ya you go chicken form wild charge and hit flap
You get across the river in twin peaks
twilit siren
from pugging exp, sometimes when target is called and they don't die I feel bad shooting unempowered surges and wonder if starfall dots will win the fight from mana attrition in maps like eots and gilneas
foggy ravine
Bout halfway across mid in warsong gulch from top of tunnel
Or eots spawn to almost mid flag
twilit siren
flap's faster?
solid pelican
Can anyone help me a bit with feral pvp? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can destroy my feral damage with an hpal atm
solid pelican
What is stat priority for feral in pvp rn?
primal bane
what are the most braindead, almost floor level skill ceiling dps classes that are in the pvp meta rn
blissful belfry
I usually flap from travel form charge shift flap
is boomy disengage really better?
i thought it was the other way
foggy ravine
Ya
blissful belfry
damn, i gotta try it out then
blissful belfry
now, imagine if wildcharge cd was independant per form. Like, travel form wild charge, flap, boomy disengage mid air for even more , flap again
xD
15s cd per form, oh mama the mobility
i could see that as a leggo
no dmg
just speed
blissful belfry
lol, double travel form charge flap disengage flap you at base
foggy ravine
Haha literally just fly around the map
foggy ravine
I wonder if you could disengage flap from LM to GM in aratbi basin
Nah probably too far
blissful belfry
with triple wc? you can im sure
foggy ravine
Oh lol ya if we had triple charge anything is possible
tropic panther
is cancel aura into re-casting cat the fastest way to end snares?
or is it same speed as just recasting cat twice
idle ingot
Any NF boomys run time worn dream binder in 3v3?
karmic kelp
What is stat priority for feral in pvp rn?
For pvp versatility and mastery
forest kite
Anyone knows a guide for Guardian rbg ?
junior plover
or is it same speed as just recasting cat twice
same
tropic panther
ok thanks. i was watching snupy and it seems like he's insta shifting back into cat and saving a gcd
junior plover
Yeah you can do that with
Tiger's Fury
and Berserk
forgot to mention that I guess @tropic panther
But that's very situationalk
Both of those are off GCD and both put you in cat form
honorable mention for guardian affi HOTW or if youre not feral then feral affi hotw
tropic panther
gotchya, yeah i knew about those
dry star
Anyone do any testing on korayn first strike yet? It's not resetting on combat dummies for me, even after several minutes of waiting out of combat
turbid jolt
Well that's disappointing. If it doesn't reset on stealth and Shadowmeld it's not going to be that great
surreal heron
supposedly only resets on logout
dry star
Seems like a once per enemy ever thing so far
surreal loom
Yikes
turbid jolt
Back to niya i go
Was pretty hyped to try it for the triple bite opener
25% might have been too streaky anyway
next lynx
ive been thinking... instead of stressing over my dps getting oneshot
I can just stop playing healer and start oneshotting people instread
both of the healers I rolled ended up not being meta anyway lol
edgy shale
void wagon
yo guys, which weapon is better for pvp
tidal linden
220
7 ilvl difference, more dmg, more main stat > secondaries
Still has vers so no question IMO, ilvl for sure
ruby walrus
#2 however pulse staff is ugly
white sun
what is the custom code for simming to make it consider pvp conditions?
copper lintel
Anyone know the haste minimum for incap cyclone?
stray sigil
@lime light so how do u do it
static pilot
Can do you @arena1 Solar Beam?
tardy hare
/cast [@arena1] Solar Beam
ruby walrus
Man I wish wow would make an interface like the weak aura easy template. But for like macros
green valve
both of the healers I rolled ended up not being meta anyway lol
Whatd u roll rdruid mw lol?
fathom stump
Anyone knows a Guardian rbg streamer or a good Video guide for flag rbg.s
wind rock
playing a rdruid in arenas atm must feel like playing feral in pve, you just get treated like a trashcan lul
foggy ravine
rdruid is fine in 2s but my god in 3s its rough
alpine matrix
has anyone here tried to make full moon a thing? i know the full moon cast is slow but it seems to be good kick baits and if you get one off it can crit for 15-20k and wreck someone
ruby walrus
Resto in 2’s or 3’s 
foggy ravine
Full moon is bad in arena
If you get kicked it’s a double lockout
While you can take foe which would let you get an extra surge or 2 during burst
Also full moon recharge time is p long
ruby walrus
Being a feral in arena>>>>being resto in arena rn
foggy ravine
Well ya resto blows right now
wind rock
You mean gets blown up right now
foggy ravine
Rdruids one of the tankiest healers wym
blissful belfry
has anyone here tried to make full moon a thing? i know the full moon cast is sl...
The main problem i have with full moon is that you cant use it in the Boat crit window
meaning criting with it is really really rare
on a super long cast
native jetty
Does anyone have a link to a good conduit guide for kyrian?
vital parcel
Think you can find that in pins
cold escarp
is disarm any useful vs monks?
stray sigil
yes
twilit siren
I thought disarm only prevents fof?
ruby walrus
I wouldn’t say we are tanky tbh, we can survive better than some. But like our hots tick for soooo little that we are so vulnerable even through our abilities. But I agree if we were brought up too par we would be atleast fairly tanky
cold escarp
bro try playing warlock then boomy
i am eternally grateful for bear form and frenzie
:)
oh u were talkin about resto but still relevant
bear + frenzie is really godsend
blissful belfry
yeah between fr and auto-fr, if you dont want to die in a 1v1, you can extend that a long ass time
u just run and pillar and run. cc, run and pillar and un, auto regen, regen, regrowth, bear again
and when convoke is back you blast him to smitherens
when my teamate dies, if incarn convoke is up soon tahts what i do, i just kite and heal for 30-45 sec
and i try to set up a good one shot convoke. People get cocky and frustrated when you kite them 1v2 for 40 sec and they forget to save stops for convoke
mighty hinge
Can any good pvp boomie hit me with a DM? Got a few questions i need assistance with. NF but any would do. As long as you know your pvp
True.
Best legendary for 2s/3s (not high rated but i believe i need to up my damage to progress). I know my rotation and how to play the class, but i just cant make my mind up on which legendary between BOAT and Dreambinder
Up until this moment i was going for BOAT but read the other day that the crit is nerfed in pvp environment = i woulsnt benefit as much with BOAT
mighty hinge
Looking at the top ranked arena druids (EU/US), many have switched to dreambinder. Although they play the class better than me so i cant really expect myself to be a glad within a week
primal bane
hunters aint underrated
MM is genuinely great, the other 2 specs just dont have dmg at all
stray sigil
mm is not gr8
primal bane
if BM gets proper pet buffs/bug fixes and surv gets like a flat 10-12% dmg increase its over
mighty hinge
Rapid fire is kinda broken lol
gloomy token
Doesn't survival fuck atm it's just not burst
gloomy token
Fuck with an f
primal bane
if it fucks ive not seen one person willing to try it
like ive seen some "SURVIVAL IS BACK" bs but theyre still sitting bottom of the playrate
stray sigil
hunter sucks lol
foggy ravine
Cuz you kill survivals pet and they are useless
And MM burst is so telegraphed it’s easy to interrupt it
primal bane
its not that simple
primal bane
by that logic ele shaman is dogshit
foggy ravine
Also hunter burst into plate lol
primal bane
bro u literally see a cast, a strong visual and even an audio que in 3 GCDs before ele burst
and he has at best 10 seconds to hit anytghing before his burst fades
stray sigil
they can literally gib u with lb mastery procs earth shock
primal bane
and even then u dispell flame shock mid-projectile travel gg
surreal loom
Ele gotta cast skyfury, echoing shock, primordial wave, stormkeeper, and hard cast lava burst for any sensible burst
primal bane
if crit was meta for ele sham this wouldnt be an issue
foggy ravine
If you are trying to say ele is bad
primal bane
casual 20k light bolts every 2-3 minutes
foggy ravine
You’ve smoked something reaaaal good
primal bane
bro
you must be
on some
pre-school reading comprehension tutorial
or something
surreal loom
No, Ele is good I never said it was bad, I'm saying if you don't know when hes trying to slap your ass around then you must not pay attention to their casts
stray sigil
if u think ele can only kill with stormkeeper
cold escarp
thats just my opinion
primal bane
nah thats too much
surreal loom
That's why I also listed like 5 others casts
primal bane
fmage is still the best
surreal loom
nah for sure only stormkeeper
primal bane
but ele/spriest compete for 2nd spot
surreal loom
? You know all skyfury does is 20% crit damage right
primal bane
"only"
surreal loom
? Yeah only
stray sigil
ya get 3 lb in ur ass with skyrfury
primal bane
that makes my 188 gear ele lava bursts
foggy ravine
yeesh
stray sigil
- a earth shock
surreal loom
crits are not 250% anymore
stray sigil
where they have to cast
primal bane
nevermind its a buff for your buddy too
primal bane
but its still hard to flex it with anything else
placid mirage
No I'm off white
primal bane
khao knows whats up
blissful belfry
can we get some of those a color
primal bane
discord rep is all that matters on these streets
blissful belfry
we need a PvP expert rank
placid mirage
What about r/worldofpvp expert
mighty hinge
@mighty hinge are you NF or Kyrian
@vestal citrus NF
primal bane
dead subreddit
blissful belfry
how nice would it be to be able to link discord with battlenet and have your cr/logs/armor wtv linked under your name
tardy hare
Thyme gonna flame me
placid mirage
Boat 4 lyf
stray sigil
@surreal loom literally who are u lol
placid mirage
Win on opener or go next
stray sigil
im getting flamed
tardy hare
If I play boat i sink
primal bane
i really have to wonder why does boomkin have 2 minute and 3 minute cooldowns
tardy hare
I'll flame u instead?
primal bane
that are simply 3 minute and 2 minute cooldowns respectively
placid mirage
CA 2 minutes when
primal bane
when fmage can just reduce them to usually less than a minute for the burst
mighty hinge
@glyph well both yes and no. I played a shit ton during Mop and legion, nothing in BFA. If a meele is on my ass atm im running cus of my gear and the feeling that everyone can 1 shot me. But once im more tanky i dont see any issues
foggy ravine
Ez just go kyrian the superior cov
blissful belfry
i'd pay blizz to make CA 2 min. or to at least make incarn talent modify it to 2 min with some modif
placid mirage
Kyrian sadge
stray sigil
kyrian pog u mean
placid mirage
Ur cat
foggy ravine
Big fax
mighty hinge
Playing with a affli lock
vast vapor
can also do only 30k in 5 globals
mighty hinge
But if i switch to kyrian i have to do that campaign too, or?
vast vapor
i mean six with foe
primal bane
yeah having all thsi dmg spread across more than 2 globals is kinda cringe
cold escarp
how much ur surges hit for? @vestal citrus
foggy ravine
Are you in blues
stray sigil
theres no way ur surges hit for 5k lol
primal bane
paladin can straight up crit you for 40k every 2 minutes
foggy ravine
My kyrian goes average surge non crit is 9.5k
cold escarp
yeah but crits are rare with binder and kyri no?
vast vapor
no
primal bane
depends if you use incarn or not
foggy ravine
Statistically should still get 1 of your surges to crit during burst
primal bane
incarn is just so fun to use as a cooldown
placid mirage
Releveling renown tho big sad
primal bane
imo convoke incarn is simply a waste
its rarely going to work
just popping incarn into instant SS is way better
mighty hinge
But if im switching to kyrian, do i have to start the kyrian campaign as well?
foggy ravine
Ya you gotta redo the campaign too
foggy ravine
Night fae is perfectly viable for boomkin
mighty hinge
Yeah i like the tp as well.
vast vapor
wish those were closer in pve sims
primal bane
its pretty relaxing to travel in shapeshift in every rest area too
its a way more pleasant choice than for shaman
where if u want to play enh and ele you p much need 2 shamans
mighty hinge
I was thinking incar, boat procs, convoke and prey it doesnt get interupted/stunned
placid mirage
Ez prayers
primal bane
you dont pray you set up
primal bane
there are so many windows of convoke during a fight
vast vapor
do you just always send it with ca glyph
primal bane
and incarn+convoke is unbelievabe, it will do too much dmg regardless of who hits
mighty hinge
For some reason, every class have 15 differwnt stuns, interupts, silence lol
primal bane
its not about what they have, its about positioning mostly
placid mirage
They don't lol
tardy hare
Too much hair
primal bane
also if you make them pop trinket early, one simple cyclone here and there its GG
primal bane
for example, most comps are made out of healer+caster+melee
placid mirage
My holy priest just wards me and places interrupt circle
primal bane
its often easy to make the melee be in open field, youre behind a pillar far back, and the other 2 are way behind another pillar and cant reach you
one stun on the melee and its over at that point
mighty hinge
@vestal citrus im getting that you use boat?
placid mirage
I killed a lock yesterday and the priest PS the seed and dk dropped amz on it :(
tardy hare
surreal heron
I'd drive hot wheels over her tiddies
tardy hare
I'll drive them over your back next, Thyme
mighty hinge
So to sum, go boat for massive covoke boost + great damage if/when i can control my minor panic attack once i have a meelen in my face (need better gear)
Dreambinder if i want short cd bursts with 4-5 surges. And just beam, root, fury and throw surges?
@vestal citrus did i get that right?
Next question, prob a stupid one. But pvp talents, aura, bearform, whats suggested as the third?
torpid fossil
is there somewhere i can look for the right covt tree for NF? having touble finding that for pvp
boomkin sorry 🙂
cold escarp
supatease runs BOAT with kyrian at 2700 and he seems to do great
so both legos are really viable
torpid fossil
awesome thanks my man! is there a way to get a convoke conduit other than WB? im struggling to get one about the baseline
dang 😦 ok awesone thanks for answering my questions quick. really apprecaite it
mighty hinge
Clock is 00.26 my time and im tired af. But whats CA lol
foggy ravine
Celestial alignment
idle ingot
celstial alignment
foggy ravine
Aka incarnation
cold escarp
yes
edgy shale
yes
mighty hinge
Yes
foggy ravine
Yes
cold escarp
mighty hinge
😂
idle ingot
so convoke has no interaction with dreambinder tho? you dont get the damage buff on the consecutive ss?
mighty hinge
Like im really drawn to boat cus i wanna blow inc and covoke on the proc
Oh good question frick. I thought of that too
idle ingot
@vestal citrus what comps do you play dreambinder into as NF?
foggy ravine
Dreambinder is only off of casted surges afaik
mighty hinge
Yeah
foggy ravine
Yeah
mighty hinge
But im stupid so ima ask
So dreambinder, cast 2 ss and after that convoke
Will be alot of dmg too?
mighty hinge
So get both legendary if im reading between the lines
Lol
But 2 ss with max out the ss dmg from convoke?
Will*
Alright
Well im getting boat first probably. Will suit or 3s better
Our playing style
foggy ravine
Boat is also bis pve if you are into that thing too
cold escarp
glyph do you still run conflux?
edgy shale
especially for boomy
cold escarp
idk sometimes i go whole game without getting a good convoke off
so i feel like i waste a conduit
went vs double shamy + mage yday
double shear double grounding
literal cancer
desert mantle
Anyone run boomy + dk in 2's?
static pilot
Can you port ursols vortex?
cold escarp
you mean warlock port?
ebon vortex
cold escarp
is there a WA for showing what spell to cast to enter eclipse?
vivid shard
I checked pins but is there a good text resource for boomkin pvp?
forest kite
Is there an addon /WeakAura you guys use to change trinkets /items in a bg? I use itemrack but the legendary often won't swap, which makes it very clunky
slim crater
brave venture
is korayn the best covenant for feral with the new first strike conduit
solid trail
brand new to PvP, should i go feral or boomie? (main is guardian and i usually just run M+)
vivid shard
reading the guides makes me very interested in kyrian, i feel like i messed my boomie up by focusing on vers/mastery instead of vers/haste and building boat as night fae
foggy ravine
definitely not messed up mastery is still good and you can still make dreambinder
quartz wedge
could anyone point me towards some resources for boomie neecorolord pvp loadouts?
blissful belfry
I can point you to the covenant swap location in oribos
quartz wedge
plz don't I drank the koolaid when blizz said play the one you like and picked nightfae paladin for my main and then thought no way I shoudl ahve 2 nightfaes so I went necrolord. I have already swapped cov 1 to kyrian on my pala
blissful belfry
oh no, y u drinkin koolaid
quartz wedge
i checked teh icy veins guide which doesnt even mention NightFae but idk felt very pve
foggy ravine
wow that necro spec would be so tanky as a boomkin
haughty compass
I actually like my necro moonkin alt
foggy ravine
just gotta find a afl lock to play with
true I was thinking afl for the dot protection if necro
solid trail
im trying arena as feral, but i just get stunned for 10 secs and die
what am i supposed to be doing...
solid trail
whats medallion
stray sigil
@clear pulsar where do u see changes
clear pulsar
Wowhead
25% dmg buff to the dot itself and from 20 to 25% increase to dots
Necrolord as a whole got hella buffed
Fleshcraft a much better spell
DH warrior hunter druid mage paladin necrolord spells all buffed
placid mirage
Lol
edgy shale
yes
placid mirage
Kidney into cheap into hoj is 9.5 with no trinket pog
edgy shale
u have to buy an item to play pvp
placid mirage
Or hoj into cheap is 10
edgy shale
also I know u know face, but I wouldn't overeact to hard even tho im slightly freaking out meself
shit will change over next month a lot
placid mirage
Stellar flare necro circle boomie inc
U get kicked both trees right
I like it when someone kicks arcane
Sad when nature :(
clear pulsar
so i have to buy an item in order to play pvp
It's an mmorpg yes?
Gear progression is a core part of the genre
small hamlet
which balance legendary should i take for rbgs?
indigo forum
i like timeworn alot, its nice for bgs when you can cast alot and chain alot of surges
like ss wrath ss wrath ss wrath and so on
small hamlet
balance of all things seems to be the go to, but there are a few others that seem as good
indigo forum
its good to, it seem to be alot about preference
i really like timeworn just because of the base dmg increase and lower ap cost, feels more consistent
boat is nice when you can get a full convoke of tough
tiny oar
25% dmg buff to the dot itself and from 20 to 25% increase to dots
Swarm and rejuv buffs baby LETS FUCKING GO
indigo forum
would you always take foe with dreambinder? @vestal citrus i guess so right?
shadow dagger
forest kite
Most using niya but koryn may be an option. Main thing is u are night fae
stray sigil
@clear pulsar those seem like some pretty insignificant buffs
clear pulsar
It's a 20%+ buff to the spell
Tf else you expect?
It's probably enough to make Necro sim evenly with Night Fae for patchwerk sims
gleaming spade
anyone have a one click convoke macro for boomie? cant seem to get one down.
vast vapor
use the search top right and type /cqs
gleaming spade
ty
tiny oar
round spear
Just wondering what's an ideal % haste for boomy?
junior plover
Well technically
Cyclone out of incap roar
But that doesn't require too much haste i don't think
green valve
Also any tips vs thundercleave as it?
Think we went 0-2 vs thunder
True he doesnt have it yet
But prob makes a big difference vs thunder
Aight
junior plover
Kyrian bogaloo