but hes 
#pvp
stray sigil
desert mantle
Hello folks. I'm a pvp newb boomkin frustrated as hell with 2's lol how many of you guys do 2's without a "carry class" like pallies?
desert mantle
I have trouble climbing in 2's with my frost dk buddy. Locking them down for burst is hard, seems like they always find a way to interrupt my burst and/or kill one of us first. Maybe I just suck ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚
edgy shale
well frost dks aren't normally the best at 2s and double dps can also be hard
twilit siren
is dh at a disadvantage vs rogue sitting I can't tell happens both ways in my games
is it downtime on sight?
forest kite
I kinda shot myself in the foot, i played Feral on our Stonelegion prog and i did pretty OK But then they asked me to try my monk
and i beat our main monk with 5 ilvls more
so now im stuck on monk
not on all pulls but i was always 1st/2nd on the ww
forest kite
dildo tier
tiny oar
stone nest
So why does my mana start at 0 after an arena?
lime light
IT cleans u after feeding
edgy shale
tiny oar
errant blaze
Ouch and i thought i had it bad when i dropped 400 rating in a session. Guess i dont feel so bad anymore 🙂
If i saw that with an lfg’er i would ask how much they paid for the boost to 2.4 😂
tardy hare
ahaha i did it intentionally tho
shut tulip
tardy hare
stark frigate
Hey guys, tips on getting trained as balance in a melee-boomkin-heal comp vs a melee-melee-heal comp?
I can't seem to get out of bear form for meaningful damage
When i played caster-boomkin, the caster would freecast and would deal lots of dmg while a melee just gets cleaved with me
forest kite
once they use their offensive CD , you can tank them in moonkin form
also , try to kite ( Wild charge used in regular form to jump on your healer ) is usefull
- always try to drag them in the opposite side of their healer , behind a pillar / anything etc
stark frigate
Thanks - then would wild charge be a better choice than renewal in this case? Also, I was thinking wouldn't my kiting effectively be kiting my teammate melee as well? making him use a charge/roll whatever to deal damage
Or am i playing the comps wrong? Does my teammate go onto the enemy healer?
tepid spoke
so you the kinda people i face with my ilvl 197 druid
tepid spoke
long hamlet
Hey, are people going solstice or fury of elune in rbgs? can't decide
stark frigate
Thanks for the answers! @forest kite @vestal citrus
last cliff
Lifebloom Lego good in 2s with photosynthesis?
Gunna craft another but cant decide between that and swiftmend
tiny oar
Nah swiftmend super bis
last cliff
Just higher throughput?
cinder saddle
anyone know anything about this silithus party sync levelling
tiny oar
Just higher throughput?
Yea extending a fully hotted/ swarmed cw with verdant is like the most insane ST healing benefit
fresh estuary
What is the plan as resto/Spriest against monk/healer? Do we go healer and root/vortex monk or go monk and try to keep him disconnected from the priest as much?
late rune
skip to next arena
fresh estuary
I literally have 1-6 against them😩 and the only win is cause monk tried to go on me
ornate plinth
can someone give me a mouseover thorns macro pls? <3
tardy hare
/cast [@Mouseover] Thorns
ornate plinth
ty
long hamlet
Hey, any suggestions to beat a mage 1v1 as a boomy?
stone nest
Just higher throughput?
Running verdant and flourish with how many purges are out there means you can keep a cenarion ward going for a hot minute.
candid moth
Hey, any suggestions to beat a mage 1v1 as a boomy?
tough matchup if he isnt braindead because he can just pillarhump whenever he doesnt have barrier up. He will probably start every go with DB -> ring -> gpy + combust; be prepared since you should be able to outheal him
long hamlet
Soon as I think about nature he interrupts it, no chance of convoke off, then it just seems he out dmgs me
And idk how but seems to get out of root solar
lime light
Ape racial
primal bane
pilav plays wow since classic and apaprently never played anything but warrior
and looks exactly like the type of person to do this aswell
clear pulsar
To do what? Play the game in the way they enjoy instead of bitching about anything and everything that moves in it everytime he types a message?
True
solid cipher
is there any chance to win affliction/healer as moonkin/healer in 2s ?
lime light
Sooner or later gods gonna cut u down
cold linden
If I'm only doing rbgs is night fae/convoke the best choice? For boomkin
candid dragon
It is. I'm Kyrian myself so it's fun to see people in calls go like "Protect our chicken so he can convoke the other team" and i'm over here feelin' like an imposter. 
candid dragon
Doesn't matter that i'm using the Kyrian mount either but y'know.
tall knoll
I feel like both is fine. Even with convoke you generally want to try and burst 1-2 targets since most of the damage comes from SS/Wrath. Kyrian might not be as flashy but much more consistent.
Plus kyrian ability lines up perfectly with 1 minute pvp damage trinket
dapper forge
If you're focus targeting well enough I feel like Kyrian is better.
candid dragon
Oh defo, Kyrian works but y'know in the pug world when people associate boomies with Night Fae Convoke since they're all over the place.... It leaves misplaced expectations.
tall knoll
Before playing boomie myself i also thought press convoke and do huge aoe damage.
But even in rbgs you dont want to run around with starfall up. Its still about bursting down 1-2 targets
knotty torrent
tall knoll
Reality: shaman insta earth shocks and now you gotta wait 2 minutes for cd xD
blissful belfry
windsheer*
blissful belfry
To do what? Play the game in the way they enjoy instead of bitching about anythi...
Ruthless!
i like it
past shard
Hey guys. Should I buy on use trinket or the proc one?
lime light
Just Play ress totem
teal hinge
@past shard what are you playing
past shard
balance
blissful belfry
on use
teal hinge
I agree
tall knoll
I feel like kyrian is better with on use because it lines up with covenant ability
tall knoll
Ita still good with night fae and convoke but im considering the passive one as well
blissful belfry
^
you want your damage when you go for a burst, not randomly
kinda pepega to have int proc when u sit in bear at 25% hp
foggy ravine
ye and battlemasters is an extra defensive if you are scarred of a comp
lime light
passiv proc is good also
battlemaster is nerfed from 1 min 30 sec to 2 min cd
still decent trinket
lime light
big dam
obtuse ice
Gros chat
blissful belfry
yeah, kinda ironic im not playin feral
obtuse ice
Oui
obtuse ice
Hi big black boi 🥵 👈
hallow shale
sick latch
Hey, any thoughts on Starlord vs Incarn as boomie in 2s with a healer ?
blissful belfry
you play boat or dreambinder? NF or kyr
blissful belfry
from my experience, as nf boat, your only real win condition is killing with incarn-convoke. Starlord is lackluster in the way it doesnt increase that kill potential.
i prefer to use incarn
(incarn also lets you incarn+convoke out of stealth without needing the gcd to go owl form first)
as for solstice vs foe, i dont really now. i've been using solstice, but FoE should be good regardless
talking about 2s here
sick latch
Thats true although isnt the only benefits of incarn -> convoke 10% more crit for the convoke duration ?
blissful belfry
incarn jsut gives 10% more crit yes. (the longer double eclipse duration isnt super value) but 10% extra crit is pretty nice, and better than some haste.
in my books at least
with the 10% crit from incarn, it makes sure your first second of convoke is 100% crit on surge
sick latch
i'm running foe, feels like a good tool to help the burst but i'm wondering if vs some matchups where mana matters like vs disc solstice would be better for more overall dmg
blissful belfry
80% from boat + 10% incarn + your stats
yeah solstice vs foe is a though choice. FoE has nice burst. It is definitely better if you run dreambinder. on a boat comp, foe isnt as dominant, but i think its more of a preference
primal bane
wasnt kidding when i said pugs LFG is more than 50% RMP
real spire
NF feral main looking to give boom a try, looks like most people here run boat? How do you feel about circle of life and death? Mostly like running rbg’s, might try to break into 3’s soon.
real spire
Gotcha, thanks!
abstract falcon
new to rdruid this season, saw a guide that mentioned photosynthesis/dark titans lesson, has anyone tried this out vs verdant infusion?
tiny oar
new to rdruid this season, saw a guide that mentioned photosynthesis/dark titan...
Stick with verdant it's just way more throughput with extended cw and saves globals vs gcd and mana intensive keeping up two blooms just for photo effect. Germ is also 5% or whatever ur mastery % is extra healing with another rejuv up.
abstract falcon
sounds good, tyvm
tardy hare
Wtf
lime light
if he wants, he gonna take your gf or bf
tardy hare
True
placid minnow
Does Necrolord work well for more than just Resto for Arena/RBG?
lime light
no
placid minnow
Pretty much only see Kyrian on top of the ladder for DPS, Necro for Resto
But I really don't want all my leathers to be Kyrian 
gritty mortar
so i was told i shouldnt step in the arena if i dont have at least 20% vers lol is that true? im only 16%
cold escarp
what are some good binds for target arena123? shift 123 is already used for me
placid minnow
Ctrl 1 2 3 4, Shift 1 2 3 4, Mouse clicks, Shift+Mouse clicks, etc
I use all of the above and Q E R 5 § F C T G V and all their shift+
cold escarp
thanks
blissful belfry
so i was told i shouldnt step in the arena if i dont have at least 20% vers lol ...
bullshit. There is no mandatory vers % to be at. i got 2.1k with 4% vers
vers WILL help you, but not as dramatically as some people might suggest
just queue up, gear up and play. you'll get better at the game / you'll get better gear and your cr will naturally climb
no such thing as a minimum
split bluff
how in the fuck do you have 4% vers anyway
were you literally trying to ignore it as a stat?
split bluff
fair enough
blissful belfry
and vers wasnt coming out on top with my topgear
i pushed my 2.1 with 4%, since then i climbed to like 19-20% because pvp gear is massive
split bluff
thanks
use alt+ instead of ctrl
and if you can help it don't use wsad
no idea how ctrl+4 is a usable bind for a human being
blissful belfry
i always prefer to use shift. but im runnin outta binds
foggy ravine
ya I use shift mostly
blissful belfry
i find alt and ctrl awkward, but i use ctrl for some keybinds cuz i ran out of shifts
blissful belfry
ctrl d, ctrl f are kinda natural
cold escarp
it depends how you place your hand on keyboard
foggy ravine
also use asd for kick + shift asd for clone arena targets
cold escarp
i dont like to bind modifier on movement keys
split bluff
why do you use wsad when you could have whole left of your keyboard open?
cold escarp
can be awkward if u wanna press it while moving
blissful belfry
the binding i really need to remove is my fuckin middle mouse. I often mousewheel up instead of middle mousewheel
split bluff
just because some guy used it in q1 tourny 20+ years ago?
foggy ravine
only have qwe bound for movement
cold escarp
oh
gritty mortar
bullshit. There is no mandatory vers % to be at. i got 2.1k with 4% vers
thats good to know
ty
foggy ravine
unbind back-peddle and you never back-peddle in pvp
blissful belfry
unbind back-peddle and you never back-peddle in pvp
Pfft, backpeddal is a mindgame tactic. You backpeddal to make the ennemy think you are bad and to lower their guard, then you strike
foggy ravine
lmao
split bluff
also played shooters my whole life, used edsf
blissful belfry
I havent read the Art of War by sun tzu, but im sure thats in it
cold escarp
edsf puts your hand further from modifiers 🤔
cold escarp
what do you even gain
split bluff
you can actually hit more than 2 keys with your pinky that way
blissful belfry
im so awkward with my pinky, i think if it got cut off i wouldnt even mind it
cold escarp
then you cant walk in CSGO tho
blissful belfry
cant walk when you rush B
foggy ravine
instead of binding half your keyboard you could just bind 30 things to your mouse
split bluff
and then replace it every 6 months
because both naga and logitech options are pure shit
cold escarp
those big bulky mouses suck for anything other than wow
foggy ravine
idk i've had my naga for a year and its fine
cold escarp
u play any shooters?
split bluff
you don't pump enough if it's fine after a year :)
foggy ravine
ya csgo
foggy ravine
mad man
split bluff
alien
blissful belfry
what kind of keyboard you have
Q and J?
i went and googled azerty keyboard and still doesnt make sense
teal hinge
Normal keyboard
teal hinge
W
split bluff
that's so fucked, unless you have like 2 extra fingers growing from your wrist
blissful belfry
''wasd? i use a6hl''
teal hinge
My hands naturally rest on those keys
blissful belfry
pic or didnt happen
foggy ravine
and I use a steering wheel for movement
split bluff
but using this setup you can't always move and hit most your keybinds at the same time
which is like fail #1 for me
teal hinge
I'm at work atm. Not home to send pic
foggy ravine
moving and using hotkeys is pretty important lol
blissful belfry
i just had an idea to isolate my convoke when there are pet armies. Im thinkin of spammin 3 roots in a row on my kill target to make him immune, then rootbeam his friends and the pet army and then convoke. But something within me is telling me im just extremely stupid
fathom stump
Are there any Guardian rbg streamers
split bluff
for me main advantage of convoke is just holding it making the other team shit themselves while I pump dmg
blissful belfry
the main problem i face when i hold convoke is that they just train me 24/7 if i dont set it up early when they cant see me. and when im just under constant pressure, i cant pump nor can i find a convoe window
split bluff
go bear to tank, pull them across map if they follow you win cd trade
depends what you play too
I recently played with aff lock and hpal and it was so much fun watching ape double melee holding their load until I convoke
blissful belfry
yeah i guess i can drag them to a LoS pillar from their healer. I just find that i drop 40 IQ when im getting hit
split bluff
also in that setup mass root+ deep roots is quite op
blissful belfry
mass root is nice, but like, 95% of comps have an hpal that can freedom it and dispell the other
goddamn hpals
blissful belfry
yeah i dont have a lock friend
let me rephrase, i dont have a lock friend with positive IQ
blissful belfry
some people watch asmr to go to sleep, some other want to watch a guardian druid afk a point waiting for someone to try and cap it
but more seriously, no i dont know
potent void
forest kite
Eye of Fearful Symmetry in hands or head for pvp?
stray sigil
head
fallen ibex
is it better to put Eye of Fearful Symmetry on helm or hands or does it not matter
stray sigil
helm more stats
twilit siren
is it possible to cap vs sitting hunter as 2 druids with cc?
scenic snow
wadup nerds, is the consensus still that Burrs is bis for Boomers?
stray sigil
60% fr ?
thick minnow
Feral regen
stray sigil
why do u say 60
stray sigil
thats not how it works
obtuse ice
InchGod
obtuse ice
48
stray sigil
its like 6% more healing on it
stray sigil
so its like a 40% regen
obtuse ice
2+2
stray sigil
5
fallen ibex
ive seen burrs happen one time since i got it
feels like it either never procs, or maybe it doesnt actually land underneath them? idk
last jackal
then you dont look hard enough lol
fallen ibex
but then the kick poison one does basically 0 dmg
blissful belfry
i wonder about that bear form conduit that boost hp and armor. It sounds appealing when you pre-bear stuns
i have been running the frenzy regen self bonus as 2nd, but im starting to think bear hp armor is better
thick minnow
Literally saying getting 60% of my health back with oen FR vs slightly over 50%
junior plover
given how much you self heal
stray sigil
the armor conduit kinda garbo
junior plover
I run it into rogue mage in 2s
foggy ravine
but you don't get 60% from a FR
stray sigil
why though
junior plover
Its more than enough
edgy shale
i only run ursine if im doing trip endurance
thick minnow
I literally just now healed for 61.7%
junior plover
You underestimate how much damage rogues still deal lmao
edgy shale
blissful belfry
you look more like an ugly cow
stray sigil
thats fake news cant dual wield @vestal citrus
edgy shale
me2
thick minnow
Urine Vigor is more for the HP
edgy shale
i dont think ursine wojld change that tho
thick minnow
Extra like 6k hp to go through
stray sigil
u will never die vs rogues
thick minnow
But it feels like if you dont bear before the burst, it's useless
if you do, it's nice
stray sigil
no shot u get to save skin cuz of usors
junior plover
If I get pre bear
on mage rogue opener
i dont skin
and I always live
legit
I rake the mage into bear and if they dont like trinket db me before bear
blissful belfry
skin is 1m cd tho, if i see rogue mage usin both cd, im not holdin skin
junior plover
they cant touch me in the opener
edgy shale
they get so many resets
blissful belfry
resets yeah, but they dont get combust again before you get skin back
junior plover
You'll regret not having that skin on their next go in 20s 
Idk I'm just sharing what I had success with at 2.2-2.3k mmr
but the matchup is free regardless
its just extra safety
blissful belfry
ya
haughty compass
I just want to play moonkin melee healer with the same comp and same players and master the comp... is that too much to ask?
blissful belfry
combust pretty much never come back udner 1 min in pvp settings
junior plover
Realistically
haughty compass
My friends are constantly rerolling it’s maddening
edgy shale
ya im just saying if u can save skin then try to cuz they dont fully need combust for a go
junior plover
Macro dmg trinket to Kyrian
edgy shale
esp. if u used eberyyhing
blissful belfry
macro it to covoke
stray sigil
never press badge ? 
blissful belfry
pepelaugh
stray sigil
its 1min
junior plover
Macro to TF
haughty compass
Just get the proc trinket
junior plover
I think Snupy still runs the proc trinket because he cant be arsed
junior plover
ye hes a mad lad
Also I do have a bind for the trinket but imagine actually pressing it when you can just press bear form
stray sigil
emblem is insanely op tho lol
junior plover
Not wrong
stray sigil
the math doesnt add up
edgy shale
hes so tilted
indigo forum
i wish we had rated solo q tbh
edgy shale
the convinience would be nice. byt i dont really wanna play against 45k hp war pal with a 20k hp dk as my partner or some shit
indigo forum
spending hours in LFG to find ppl only for them to leave after one loss is so bad
im just tired 😒
edgy shale
i control my partner yho lol
thick minnow
TBH the reason it wouldnt work isnt because of gear. It would be because of player mentality
after 2 years, people would have tons of alts
and just not give a fuck if they won/lost
indigo forum
ppl that wouldnt care would be at low rating
thick minnow
not true at all
indigo forum
and ppl that cared could reach for high personals
stray sigil
u cant compare
thick minnow
he shit on everyone
stray sigil
a moba to a mmo
indigo forum
its another game
stray sigil
?
stray sigil
if we had solo q with seperate brackets for healer/dps and double dps
thick minnow
dota matchmaking is a shit show right now and its solo Q
stray sigil
u would have rogue and hybrids running over the double dps part
indigo forum
specs would have their own brackets, for example if i have 1800 rating on balance spec and switch to resto my rating would be 0 and separate from myu balance spec rating
thick minnow
so?
i dont care about my resto spec
im just gonna fuck around
then play serious
then fuck around
rinse/repeat
indigo forum
i dont get your pooint
thick minnow
exactly. and 2s is already a shit show
indigo forum
why wouldnt it work tough?
thick minnow
point is in 2 years alts will have permeated the system
indigo forum
for 3s?
thick minnow
and you'll play to be serious
thick minnow
while others play to not give a fuck and dick around
indigo forum
you would still face ppl with same mmr as you
indigo forum
there would have been rules ofc
thick minnow
which means theyre not at your MMR
theyre just at your MMR because theyre not trying
placid mirage
Off meta has 30min lfg queue anyways
stray sigil
ya but they ahve30min queus
thick minnow
its a huge issue with Matchmaking
stray sigil
but people are willingly choosing
indigo forum
if you play a mistweaver at 1300 personal rating you wouldnt get paired with a arms war at 2k rating
edgy shale
I can't believe fuji answered this btw, i wanted to ss earlie but i was on mobile lmao
stray sigil
to play with them
edgy shale
literally type READ ABOVE DUMBASS
thick minnow
mentality matters
thick minnow
this mentality is the same across team games
stray sigil
not remotely similar
placid mirage
What if they had solo queue up to like 1800 cr
indigo forum
solo q is a separate bracket
thick minnow
of Solo Q
indigo forum
even if you get a bad comp you will also get good comps from time to time
placid mirage
Ya but what if after a certain rating u had to be premade again
stray sigil
soloq would be like who can climb with the worst comps
thick minnow
but how fun is it to lose becasue you have to play RMP as Hunt/War/MW
stray sigil
thats it
thick minnow
or win because you play RMP vs Hunt/War/MW
or lose because you have teammates that dont wanna play and flame you all game
indigo forum
specs would have a separate rating also, so i dont care if fire mages are good because i only compete vs ppl with the same spec
stray sigil
ok so now ur talking about a ladder for mirrors
placid mirage
Bc honestly it seems like most of the people bitching for solo queue just want to slam games below 1800
stray sigil
makes no sense
indigo forum
the reason for solo q qwould be that you wanna play serious pvp but not rely on getting partner all the time and sitting in q for 2 hrs
stray sigil
if u play a set up comp in soloq
u would like
never win any games
if the other team is a full zugzug
thick minnow
^
indigo forum
rewards wouldnt be as good ofc but better than skirmishes
thick minnow
the mechanics of Solo Q doesnt work for WoW
indigo forum
you play because its better than skirmishes
placid mirage
It's like if skirms gave rating kekw
indigo forum
and if you cant find partners
edgy shale
i mean idk, u could argue the mechanics of solo Q don't work for league or mobas in general. cuz the ntire point of that game is having good team cohesion
stray sigil
how is it better than skirms
edgy shale
ppl do solo Q anyway
stray sigil
its the literal same thing
placid mirage
Is it only better because it attaches internet points to it?
stray sigil
ur just asking
thick minnow
Solo Q doesnt work for most games that rely heavily on teamwork
stray sigil
for like getting cr at the end
indigo forum
because its rating based @stray sigil wich would mean better rewards at higher personal rating
edgy shale
ya, u get ur role but ur still 5 people stuck on a team with 0 synergy
stray sigil
other than that
thick minnow
and work best for FPS games where you can solo caryr
stray sigil
its literally the same thing as a skirm
thick minnow
if you can just go SSJ4 and outplay everyone and win 95% of the time, solo Q is good
edgy shale
50 minute Qs
indigo forum
and you cant get paired with 2 healers for example or double boomy
edgy shale
placid mirage
Pve
stray sigil
u sit in 15 hour q cuz u cant do mirrors since nobody plays that hsit
foggy ravine
1v1 ladder could be interesting
placid mirage
No lol
edgy shale
ya as a meme i agree
foggy ravine
Ya
edgy shale
not a competitive format but for fun, why not
foggy ravine
Could never be that competitive
stray sigil
just go outside duro and sw
placid mirage
1v1 skirms lol
stray sigil
theres ur 1v1 ladder
foggy ravine
Fax
indigo forum
it was a suggestion for getting something out of arenas while you cant get partners
its not a main game
placid mirage
Imagine how many whispers u would get if there was 1v1 queue
thick minnow
"lol ok pssuy mage sheep adn rnu away and wait for COmbuSt LOL broken"
placid mirage
It would just be rogues resetting for an hour
haughty compass
I’m gonna make holy priest warrior moonkin work.
stray sigil
reroll hpal
haughty compass
Like 1840’atm
placid mirage
Xddd
placid mirage
1v1 ladder but max rating is 1200 and you get 1 per win
haughty compass
Solo Q would o my be cool as a way to fuck around when your team isn’t on
stray sigil
that makes no sense there are good players playing bad specs
indigo forum
ye then you have a good player on your team 😄
haughty compass
You can make any spec work if you play 3000 games a season
placid mirage
Not everyone
indigo forum
if i could play more 3s i would but i dont know any ppl that are same rating as me :/ my guild only pves
is there anyone that have long lasting partners from lfg here?
idk i cant find any
try keep in touch with players from lfg but it doesnt go that well
haughty compass
I’m literally teaching my 2 irl friends how to play on my alt, it’s actually fun
We got 1600, which was a big deal for them
haughty compass
Mistweaver monk kyrian warrio and necro boomkin lol
indigo forum
my lfg experience is litteraly ''getting home from work then looking for ppl for about 1-2 hrs, find partners do like 3 games lose one and they leave, repeat untill i realeise i dont have time to arena anymore''
haughty compass
We went to real nagrand and practiced positioning
indigo forum
i add everyone i play with on btag
haughty compass
It’s a grind like anything else in this game
stray sigil
gotta prove to people ur worth qin with is all
indigo forum
well i think i have
even played with ppl much lower cr than me
boost them up then they wont play anymore lul
haughty compass
Lots of people looking for that1600 / 1800 gear bench mark
indigo forum
im at around 2k, was at 2.1 then my partners i had stopped playing and lfg experience tanked me down to 2k
super annoying
would think ppl wanted to push to 2.1k
but almost everyone expect to have 100% winrate lul
thick minnow
Arena just in a weird place because the bottom dropped out. So the top/mid level players all have their friends that they rotate through
and the mid/bottom just rotate between people
indigo forum
ye it feels just like that
i just had such a bad experience these last 2 weeks so i guess thats why im ranting haha
thick minnow
I get that too. Played with Hpal that was greedy with CD's and we died through it (almost lived). Told him "dont know if we can be greedy there. Just throw out BoP next time and we're good"
told me to fuck off and left
indigo forum
lul same happened to me when i told an hpal ''dont hold bubble if we dont have any way out
thick minnow
hard to find people with a good mindset. And then be able to get on consistently
indigo forum
its so hard
thick minnow
if I fuck up i'm "holy fuck i'm so bad I'm sorry. That was so dumb"
indigo forum
its too bad cuz my guild is super friendly but everyone is at like 1.2 ratiung hehe
thick minnow
if they fuck up it's "no you didn't do XYZ, I shouldnt have to be in the position, you should have done X"
indigo forum
ye none can blame themselves
thick minnow
then theyre just hardstuck at 2k and think its everyone else
only solice is knowing they wont ever climb
indigo forum
i found a super nice lock to play with but he is a tight time schedule so hes almost never online
im at the point where i almost dont care anymore wven tough i really love 3s pvp
blissful belfry
Do yall think RBG mmr / cr will be inflated like it is right now for the next season too or do you think they will try to push it back to a more reasonable setting
indigo forum
its often quite wacky
thick minnow
I thikn they'll just make loot more rewarding on the PvE side
because PvP gearing is amazing right now
compared to PvE
blissful belfry
yeah, im just trying to peer into blizz's head, but then i get lost because its a chaotic mess in blizz's head
proven bridge
quick Q - if I hop into arenas with a 1400 friend and im a fresh character with no played pvp matches at all, what are we going up against?
edgy shale
ya. ppl are quick to blam feral rather than blaming their owns mistakes / overall lack of synergy / jsut unlucky matches sometimes
indigo forum
ye everyone just wanna play with fmage
im not the fotm type of guy also
i really like druid pvp
but ye the struggle is real
thick minnow
I'd say keep focusing on finding friends
and building that up
thats your biggest success chance
indigo forum
ye im trying, last weeks have been really toxic tough haha
blissful belfry
people are so meta slaves
edgy shale
i was really close to rolling a monk, but then i figured they'd be nerfed like a month ago
indigo forum
if i knew i would get glad as firemage i would do it
but im not that high as a player
blissful belfry
people playing fotm makes me wanna throw up. but i bear with it cuz i figure if enough people play the stronger classes, they might nerf them and leave mine alone
indigo forum
its worse when ppl are rolling fotm then suck at the class and blames everyone else for it haha
many ppl seem to play the game like its an single player game when its really a team game for most parts
livid wasp
why cant blizzard add an option to blacklist a class
im so sick of facing arms warrs in 3s theyre broken as fuck
indigo forum
warriors are fine aslong as they dont a´have a ret enabling them
ww are worse because their dmg is just over the top
indigo forum
against jungle ya
livid wasp
yesterday I was 2366 and now im down 200 rating cause of those aids comps
vast vapor
yes
pallid coral
Pyrokinesis reduces Combustion’s cooldown by 3 seconds (was 5 seconds).
ok
as if this actually does anything
3 seconds is still an insane number
LMAO
vast vapor
lol
pallid coral
that holy nerf is actually pretty big
vast vapor
yeah its still wont line with defensives
vast vapor
yeah it already does
novel sky
neat
junior plover
ACTUAL NICE CHANGES
vast vapor
if some1 wants to force it like streamers often do
junior plover
no arms tho ðŸ˜
forest kite
1 buff to ray of frost will make frost meta lol?
vast vapor
but fire will still be better
forest kite
Fire will still be way better, glacial spike is unplayable in pvp too
forest kite
why do you think the frost buff is huge?
junior plover
Ahh glacial spike is the big spike thing
Yeah but at least it shows
they're willing to balance outside of AWC
vast vapor
they want to let them have fun for a while
vast vapor
yes
stray sigil
? ? ?
@vestal citrus ? ? ?? ? ?
if they nerf bite dmg
and not buff bleeds
in compensation
its so doomed lol
na but for real
blizzard is trolling
these patch notes are awful lol
literally doesnt address any problem
stray sigil
LOl
indigo forum
its not that huge
stray sigil
the fire nerf is literally fuckall
indigo forum
you still have to live trough it 🙂
junior plover
Yes
surreal elbow
they cant nerf feral bites its legit our only source of damage if we dont bring back bleed based feral its indeed doomed
junior plover
which you do by trading a defensive
and by the time you run out of defensives
they'll have 1 less go now
indigo forum
but fire nerf is still welcome
junior plover
Also hitting pala mana efficiency is really nice
so they arent best at literally everything
indigo forum
ye hpal mana was absurd
junior plover
we'll see how much that 30% matters tho
surreal elbow
idk what blizzard doesnt understand yet nerf rets nerf fmage burst, nerf warrior utility then add defensive vers benefits to the dual pvp trinket bonus
stray sigil
garbage patch notes week after week
indigo forum
the sacrifice nerf is actually quite big too
stray sigil
it is doomed
surreal elbow
it prevents people from playing MA shriek trink etc it literally solves all the issues
indigo forum
you take 25% less dmg from sac is rank 2 wich wont work with ultimte sac
junior plover
Sounds nice
surreal elbow
nah i think itll be fine i dont think anyone should be able to almost one bang anyone
stray sigil
mana is not remotely the biggest issue with hpal
vast vapor
kinda wish pvp trinkets were mandatory
stray sigil
doesnt matter 1 bit
vast vapor
like make versa not work at all without equipping 2x pvp trinket
surreal elbow
kinda wish pvp trinkets were mandatory
exactly
indigo forum
it does matter vs dampen comps
junior plover
They're slowly removing hpal's strengths patch after patch
vast vapor
yeah
surreal elbow
i mean 80% of games
junior plover
Shaman is now the most mana efficient healer
indigo forum
it matters quite a lot in double caster vs melee teams @stray sigil
stray sigil
why would it matter there more lol
surreal elbow
like i queue into holy ret arms almost every game
indigo forum
because casters dampen the game
surreal elbow
as jungle i barely meet mirror
like tf
everyone want that juicy meta piece of shit
surreal elbow
ive seen 4 jungles today compared to the countless rets and holy's ive seen
stray sigil
havent seen hunters in a while
vast vapor
want to get boosted as feral or hunter? many choices for comp?
junior plover
FMP is as popular as survi jungle
vast vapor
u dont think it shows in stats?
stray sigil
also the dude who wants every class but ww to be nerfd
idk id take it
with a grain of salt
vast vapor
also those match numbers :D
junior plover
He literally said like 5s ago that
surreal elbow
rm priest on top tf?
vast vapor
same ppl playing a lot of matches
surreal elbow
kiosk eu or na?
slim crater
Good nerfs and buffs
surreal elbow
where do you play personally
slim crater
They are new
slim crater
Just biased
junior plover
But theyre all season long im pretty sure
most games at the start of the season
I suppose
slim crater
They are from people on /r/worldofpvp uploading their games
junior plover
here's the tool
slim crater
It's relevant
vast vapor
:DDD
surreal elbow
its irrelevant
junior plover
It's not that reddit people were asked to upload data specifically for this
stray sigil
ok ok pogchamp
surreal elbow
no one posts vods of them slamming their heads into keyboards as holy ret arms
junior plover
the author of this tool
does like a thousand tools a week
and people donate data to all of them
so there shouldnt be a strong bias for anything
just small sample size
vast vapor
yes its very biased then because of small sample size
two people upload their 300 games tells nothing
junior plover
Small sample size does not imply bias
but the result is the same
doesnt mean much
I agree
junior plover
lol
fair enough
literally meaningless then
I'll upload I hope it updates retroactively
slim crater
Just need to take it with a grain of salt
surreal elbow
i swear if everyone here does a /reflex rn
over half the games
are vs atleast 1 paladin or a warrior
vast vapor
or fire mage
junior plover
Sometimes yes
vast vapor
or half the classes in the game
junior plover
only 1500?
junior plover
slim crater
This explains why I felt ultimate sac would eat my convokes
tardy hare
rog is just cause int
junior plover
whats your healer
surreal elbow
oh btw it took me by surprice today i told my healer to not trinket and regret when i 1 global later instantly died to an assas rogue
junior plover
or are you dd
tardy hare
whats your healer
prot paladin
junior plover
hmm
slim crater
Ban him
junior plover
interesting
i'd think that'd be much easier vs rogue than feral disc
but we smurf on rogue heal
tardy hare
rogue is kinda free
but i int
so
we lose
gg
also
mindgames
is 100% hardcounter
our comp
actually disc does fuck us
tardy hare
mind games is free win
tardy hare
need to stop mindgames
vast vapor
actually read the notes now and rofled for the mw buff, cant they literally ever adjust anything else but cocoon
tardy hare
no dispell
junior plover
Ye no that makes sense
slim crater
actually read the notes now and rofled for the mw buff, cant they literally ever...
It should help, but I don't think enough
Suprised no ww nerf.
junior plover
MW needs bigger changes than they can give in a pvp patch
surreal elbow
i mean the game is utter dog water rn
vast vapor
I mean it helps but literally the only thing they ever touch is cocoon cd
junior plover
They need to give them kick in 9.1
surreal elbow
i got one hit by a ret pala earlier
junior plover
and more probably
junior plover
but that'd be a good start
stray sigil
watching RN
junior plover
UPVOTE
tardy hare
fuck making targetting keybinds
junior plover
Man I'd play kitty cleave
stray sigil
that is def some degen play
stray sigil
daily reminder ur ui fucking SUCKS DONKEY DICK
🤡
tardy hare
slim crater
Gross
junior plover
No turnspeed2500 glad mount spin at the end
slim crater
Please delete
junior plover
how dare u
tardy hare
????
tardy hare
No turnspeed2500 glad mount spin at the end
there was
tardy hare
no
junior plover
hm