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yea can work on some clusterfuck maps
i didnt like it much
playing without brs felt weird
@clear pulsar dude i swear skin lego is kinda overrated
maybe im just bad and got too used to curio
but playing without it now feels awkward
yea thats gonna get you capped on
cant u just get sappd on
no cos of brambles
or can u skin in sap
Hey guys, just wondering what you all use to shapeshift? Atm i use scroll wheel for all forms, but i keep reading that scroll wheel is best for targeting in arena?
i usually go restealth and stay away from flag if that happens
dont skin right away but yea i assume he just resets - same as boomy going for caps
barkskin cd is so low its fine
preference, shift 1 bear shift 2 cat v travel shift v boomy
mousewheel for camera control =S
So the best strat is to stand on flag in stealth, stop first cap attempt? If vanish into sap (assuming I don’t stealth in time) then just sit on flag and barkskin late into sap? If blind during barkskin I’m good. If wait for blind after skin, trinket blind then just spin?
Rather first cap attempt be in stealth away from flag.
I am am PVErr turned to PVP gear, so hard noob in PVP.
then you just trinket blind
then if all else fails you have incarn for 30 sec with sleeper lego
either way it should be enough time for someone to peel and get there
since blind/clone share dr they will normally just try kill you tbh
if its two people incing
like rogue/boomie
rogue alone wont do shit
idk this channel is basically just people asking the same things over and over
yep welcome to class/addon discords
Why the huge influx of people asking what we do to shift?
no clue

????? literalyl the same question
i c what u did thar
Thatsthejoke
What slot for BoAT leggo?
I shift with C
shift on scroll used to be good for powershift macro
Might be worth a pin for the repeated questions? I checked pins and Google prior to asking.
maybe 1% of people check pins =S
half the answers are telling people to check them lol
Lots of FOTM rerollers bro that’s why
There is no answer to be pinned for 'what keybind is best for shifting/targeting'
That's not a question to be pinned lol
keybinds are always preference
Meant for my question which they said was asked a few times today.
Shifting key binds are all personal preference tbh
I use shift modifier with number keys so s1 is cat s2 is bear s3 is Travel s4 is moonkin
Used to them from classic so I use them in retail as well
Ya, I check wowhead, and the PvP shit was pretty useless.
Looked for a guardian one.
no one really makes rbg specific guides
I saw the feral one, TBH, didn’t even check it because I assumed that it wouldn’t be applicable at all.
RBGS specifically.
i think theres stuff that could be made into a guide but uh
yea i aint doin that
ye same with how i feel
Ya, I think the how to handle a rogue would be a good quick pin, if that’s actually been asked a lot. But I am a PVP noob so.
Didn’t check that, I’d be curious if those already exist.
For starters sit away from flag. So he can’t sap/ blind cap
Good rogues will shuriken storm to try to get you out of stealth if they know you’re sitting there
Can’t sit in stealth as guardian
uhh you can?
every druid spec has access to prowl
I meant in bear*
If they shuriken storm you out of stealth they cant sap you
maybe a section on base sitting/capping but its kinda specific.
boomy can cap via root beam, incap clone etc, feel like so many people dont know that is possible somehow
yea base sitter is map watcher too
does shadowy duel come up in default cc ui in the middle of your screen?
no
Shadowy duel isnt cc
you can still aoe flag in duel
wait, really? I thought you couldn't damage anyone else
yeah I just wanted to make a wa just in case I miss it and fail to notice a cap
can treants general flag area to let them aggro right?
the only RBG guide I've seen is cherry's. I'm sure Hero+ exp'd players will find issues with it, but it has a lot of really good stuff that I'd never have really thought about as a scrub (I'm like 1.8k in RBGs and never really done them before shadowlands)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wqyh4Y2bSD5jcXaJ6l9MEMie6G-CXDxsM4oLgXrqbSA/mobilebasic
ye for absolute basics its fine
making a good rbg guide would be like
too much for anyone
idk who most of the US rbg people are tbh
WoW 9.0.2 Shadowlands RBG Guide Written by: Cherrysuave-DarkspearOasis Discord: https://discord.gg/xfJyBJC Oasis Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oasis_wow/Oasis Twitter: https://twitter.com/oasis_w0w Cherry (Creator and Founder of Oasis) Questions or concerns? Twitch: @Cherry01 ...
gives basic info for new players
terminology and shit
why are eu ferals
2-3 good teams
TY for all the info peeps.
i bound my shifts to a wire connected to my dong
we almost beat eheroes yesterday tbh
i just twitch it
was sweatiest game of my life
new meta
hi guys, night fae resto viable in 2s or i should switch to necrolord?
what about when you convoke and get a boner
how do you think convoke was cast?
ah
kyrian what
ill decide on faction by time done questing tbh
i miss the underrot dungeon


dude UR best dungeon
why?
Underrot was legit best dungeon
Great aesthetics, balanced place, always a good time
Separated the boys from men for sure
cus it had tiddys
last boss was mad annoying
i hate bosses where u can't tell wtf their health is
i agree aesthetics were cool for sure
3rd boss was maybe overtuned
@clear pulsar i need ur math genius
why is tony going mastery enchant and gems
at 30% vers mastery might be better?
mastery bigger bites
read mastery tooltip
At any amount
i do understand
Even with trinket bonus
Mastery is always more dmg per point than vers
It's like 17.5 point per % vs 28 for vers
i have different strenghts
face is my math guy
i no thinl
i zug
i do have 43% mas 30 vers
hmm
looks juicy
vs 39 32
43-39 = 3 32-30 = 2 3 is bigger than 2
its simple mayan mathematics
3 beats 2 every time
ya but its not 2
maybe he thinks our mastery is destro lock mastery?
its 2 + pvp trinket bonus
which is just better vers
i was looking at tony earlier as well and saw him with like 39% mastery
ya he is mastery gemd and enchants
but hes playing skin lego too
might be why hes ok losing some vers
after verse and mast, do we pref haste or crit?
@clear pulsar THOTS?
You need 830 mastery and 0 vers for vers to be more efficient than mastery for bite damage
Ofc vers affects everything so vers would generally be better damage starting earlier than that but
is using thrash in pvp a waste of energy and gcd?
ok now talk to me like if i was 5 years old
Let's say you have 30% vers, that's 42 after trinket bonus
@sly summit I'd say crit
Even an extra 1% may cause u yo crit bite and then make them panic
okaaay thanks 🙂
Zugzug
If you have 1200 vers, you need 41 points more to get 1% extra damage done. For mastery to be the same efficiency you'd need 2k mastery basically.
For the spells affected by mastery
If you have 1200 vers, mastery will be more bite damage than vers until you also have 2k mastery.
SO WHAT DO I DO
torghast prolly easy af in guardian tbh
Yeah idk I'm not gemming/enchanting vers tbh
It's just better cuz of DR yfeel
But barkskin leggo POGGIES
ok so
Mastery is big dam for sure
keep your versa i think
mastery is sure bif sam
fucking face
but
Vers is smaller bites
vers is damage reduc too
Smaller bites dont win games
im thinking of trying mastery
you can't win game if you die in 3 sec 😦
FOR THE POSITION
in fact just copy the pro
1300 mmr rbgs easiest cap
alliance is not intellient*
we were at 2.3 mmr on our sub-30k hp no voice alts earlier
was funny af
ye i decided not to camp 2.7 anymore
wanna push as much as i can to see
considering we were close to beating eheroes who were 3k team
think we can push a lot higher
I think tony smart man
i stream when i get webcam 👀
wots tony doin
gemming mastery
im gonna test the difference if i swap my enchants rn
yea doing selfplays actually ruined our team for a good few weeks
And you arent making jack?
no one wanted to play with us
@rigid linden u played any bt curio games yet
LMAO get fukt glyph
Only in 2s
we used to split gold with everyone that played based on how many games they played and it was stupid complicated
I keep going back and forth in my head about kyrian vs night fae
I really do like kyrian in pvp
but it basically made it so that for a month or two no one wanted to play with us because they knew we did selfplay all the time
we stopped that and now people and play so we push
shit is cancer
It doesnt really sound very complicated
But all g
wtf is self play
so some people would do like 1-2 games for 2.1 boost
Did you charge per game or per rating?
the people we had boosting were paid per game played
I guess if you have like real players coming in for 3 games a night and you're charging per rating then it's complicated
Yeah
we spent ages figuring out how much to pay people properly
and it just caused more disputes etc
My sister moved out last week
yeah cus i paid her fat stacks

bitch
no she 3v2'd
43% tf
how tf everyone got so much mastery
Got farmed by cdew huh
is it the kyrian gear or some shit
ah
Nah the only diff between covenants is int weapon I think @tulip falcon
but i did swtich gems and enchtants too
im chilling on 27% mastery rn with 225 ilvl
yeah this is me with symm
Yeah the diff gotta be just double vers mastery ring
curio is like 120 mastery
^
makes sense
I made it on necklace like a poor loser
stop ur nonesense about going back to nf face
Also fuji bro you literally change names every 2 weeks what the FRICK
You give blizz more money than this entire discord
gonna change to mastery and see how it is
i sorta want vers for when i have to fc but tbh
mastery is hp increase and shit too for guard
now i want curio because of that mastery
fuck
I need to replace these haste vers pieces bro
Shoulder chest bracers belt all haste vers
Similar to mine @tulip falcon
This with symmetry
yall fucking
yea
ungrateful
i only have belt left
Oof
233 crit 255 haste 231 mastery
i also got haste bracers out of vault ill change those
It works out to 353 crit perfectly by using crit vers on the slots that dont have mast vers
holy fck yea looking at it i actually got
so many haste pieces
that could be crit or mastery
i do need to switch out some pieces for crit
but im pretty close to being pvp bis
i refuse to do m+ for gear however
r u NA? i will carry ur pvp trash ass double feral keys
kk
shoot me ur btag
Any legit places I can visit to pay coaching/boosting for gold?
pheonix gold cap
For arena.
theres a bunch of discords for it
u never asked
yeah
How do I search for these discord servers?
isnt there someone in here whos necro
think i can tank at 160?
thought that was u
the main guy is literally named bepis the necrolord lol
he knows all about necro so ask him for sure
How many gems can we get from venari?
only for the VIPs
theres 5 slots for sockets is that wat u mean
Yeah
neck, bracer, belt, rings i think
i am a pvp player @gloomy token lul
I think necro adds like 5k damage per FF go
2s 3s and shit
bro i have no idea how to fuckin play necro feral in pvp someone in here said just go draught and pve some idiots
so i did
idk if current pacing allows for dot playstyle
Nah you'd still play sbt in pvp with necro I feel
But FF for sure
Altho maybe vs plate
Just bite for fero wound
And play LI
i feel like maybe necro wouldnt be awful vs warriors
but necro soulbinds look kinda bad
marileth is basically it
unless you go maximum meme and take bonesmith for 3% armor 
You also get % agility from bonesmith
Heirmir and Marileth both better than Kyrian soulbinds tbh
The shield at 50% is super nice
hearing necro soulbind names first time
:^)
kekw
15% shield proc at 50%, ultimate form, 2 potency 2 endurance
It's actual pog for pvp
u have nothing either in marileth lol
1st thing is giga useless in pvp
last one kinda garbo too
you have a shield and life regen :^)
15% shield proc every 30s, ultimate form, 2 endurance 2 potency
its only the shield proc
Also
dont reveal you aren't kyrian or nf 
Kill hunter pet
Bro you're kyrian tf you talking about
they are pretty fucking bad
pelagos alone is better than all 3 necro combined

The marileth shield farms bro
they never expect
unironically no
have to hold on to ur goes
Idk you sit on FF for TF anyway
cuz 25 45s
sit on as
Nah, pre-cast it on yourself and jump them when it's about to wear off so it hops to them.
Then you can cast it again right as it falls off of them
🤔
I wish frenzy was more attractive for WPvP ganks
im sick of having rogues sit outside venari's refuge
can u go back to earlier floors
no
Korayn about to be sick tho when we get renown 34
Big opener can do Rake FF Bite Bite Bite with +25% crit
Or Rake BrS Shred Bite Shred Bite with BT.
im looking at a dr list on gamepedia and says MC is a incapacitate and Clone is a Disorient but they still share dr? is there a page with a legit list of shared drs?
They're all out of date
Gamepedia more so than the rest
Dr-wow is more up to date
Has some old spells but
Should be more accurate
so igues i should ask here then
Or something like that
incap roar shares dr with clone? i havent noticed
Sap / poly / hex / paralysis
^
incap doesnt dr with clone
incap clone is pure filth
Clone / fear / mc / blind are one DR
Incap / paralysis / sheep / hex / coil is another DR
guys im so upset with myself at pvp i get pwned every game as balance, any tips? i can barely move/ cast anything...
thanks
sounds like he dies like a bitch without being able to do anything

whenever i got a melee on me and i see my hp bar going down i go bear and press frenzy yea
and fear him
but still get my ass fucked
Open up and blast before you get blasted
Record games
Watch again, show someone
Watch streamers
A bunch linked in pins
Not all are active
It would take 40 mins sitting here to do a step by step of what you gotta press
Idk
Skill-capped has a bunch of youtube videos
Are supatease videos good? @vestal citrus
dont watch supa pls
jesus fuck
stop recommending supa to people

everytiem i played supa this season
he just beams piss without a root
1st gcd of the game
i swear watch his stream and like
the dude just looks like he plays on autopilot
no thoughts to anything
he just presses stuff
I didn’t wanna be a hater but I always wondered how that Dude is up there
why does zilea scream like a psychotic person?
hes up there cuz he plays wit hdecent players still
and he plays fotm stuff
guardian last xpac
boomy rn
played rdu when it was giga busted too
ya but dude
its an hpal
lol
hpal with a boomy and like a lock
Supatease is noodle but a druid
feels like its giga easy to play the game then
level 2 final boss on torghast melee'd my punk ass for 9k >.>
melees cant hit u cuz corruption
think about it too
in that comp
he doesnt even have to clone lol
fear is actually better
cuz of ua
he legit only pves
all he has to od
i been trying to get smight and willy to play warrior and hpal
so we can q a good comp for once
to no avail
I’m constantly play with friends who are playing catch-up with gear because they reroll after every bad session
@clear pulsar think about it
hpal insane
warrior insane
u play skin lego everygaem
u have intervene
who the fuck dies ?

kitty is much better than jungle imo
tfw i dont wanna trash the guy i climbed to 1800 with's rating by playing feral aff
isnt feral aff decent in 2s
i think so but im playing memespec and he's playing seriously
idk man he wants 2100 for pve upgrades 
Idk bro I think you got it mixed up
I think usually people come in with the idea that you need guardian aff for certain matchups but
It's more so the opposite
You need the stuns and dam from feral aff more often than you need more survivability
Rake is goat ability
I think we need someone to make the venthyr dream a reality in this discord
venthyr is unfortunately dogshit
imagine sephuz draven except necro gang which loves haste crit
nah I play boomy too but i've done keys as kyrian
swapepd for the boomy and its not that bad as resto tbh
Yeah I did a key as resto kyrian
I couldnt make up my mind about who to bond
I think bonding yourself is best!?
I just bonded myself lol
Yeah

They should at least make it 20% for bonding yourself too
The spell's already dogshit as is
pretty much just used it on cd if people weren't topped
bonding someone else has never felt good for me
One issue with it is that any damage you take or healing you do will consume the pool even if it's pointless
So like
It takes away from the potential added damage
For yourself

I did a dg as guardian earlier bonded with a dps
ya I tried bonding another dps once and it was super underwhelming
It gave me like 160k total throughput but more than half of it was in healing/absorbs
and I looked at details and it mostly went to like random healing and damage absorption
ya
ya since then I just bind myself for the damage buff
You only get dmg buff if you're dps tho 
at first when I swapped I was like why would I not link someone else for 20% buff!?1
Useless for resto
It's ok defensive cd tho as guardian
ya thought I'd miss soulshape in pvp but honestly druids are mobile enough its not really needed
and the kyrian pot is kinda nice
I'd think kyrian for more frequent goes that line up with combust but I defer to the feral pros
but honestly both probably work
should i be playing dreamweaver soulbind for resto?
it doesnt feel like seeds worth it anymore
in rbgs ^
u gotta ask lakerz. I don't really know, but if u have a paly/disc to shield thye pod its still prob good
cuz they can prob go for u first
Play niya for mastery proc heck pod if u die as rdruid ur BAD sry
yeah my healings great i just need more survivalbility
Play bear n that's all the defense ull ever need

it might just be my mmr as well
does faerie swarm gimp rogues? Is it worth taking on temple to try to stop them?
that looks kanker
xd
Sumone linked an even better one in here yesterday
Like 1300 both brackets 2450 rbg or sumthing like that
That double boomy rogue sounds ridiculous lol
Is divine toll a smart heal ? how does it work? does it cast the 5 holy shocks on your target or an injuried target or can it actually target a full health target
Trying to get 2400 in 2s as rdru atm has been like unbelievably hard
just line bro
Same ones from Glyphs screenie.
ah it is lmao
what kind of stats does a boomkin want for rbgs
and circle of life and death for legendary
have you guys been playing with any of the non-Verdant Infusion legendaries in arena as resto?
I'm super low rated (stuck between 1300 and 1400 right now trying to learn resto as my first time healing), and I'm wondering if there's other stuff you could run
also how do you guys like Tree? I feel like I don't have any big CDs if I don't run tree
I play draught sumtimes for dmg but verdant is insane gcd value
Sotf regrowth/ rejuv / CW extend is ur big cds, tree is horseshit
why is tree horseshit? 😦
@clear pulsar bt is the move for sure
should I still be innervating on the other team's go?
tauren
is too insane
just make a cute cow
its the p2w mog pants
some shirt from uh
precious
and the hat from sl
feral is way too much for ur tiny boomy brain
u would not understand the intricacies
no bear form is a dps loss for feral
unlike boomy
facts ^
Lololol
Troll gang for life brother
Imagine if
We had the legion leggo
That bleeds had a chance to proc primal fury
So you could put bleeds up, go bear and come out with 5 cp

You're tauren you weasel
Wait you're troll

When did you racechange
Yesterday
Theres rly not I kill them in scatter and bear bag the ret for 10s straight
i been saving to racechange from troll to tauren for pvp thots opinons
gang gang
hi guys do you have guides for the cat in the arena?
@tiny oar was savix too
was much more juicy cuz that dude called me trash on stream the other day
Is there a guide for how to play jungle?
was that a coherent statement
seems pretty unfair tian isn't an expert, but what can you do
Thanks @stray sigil , 2.9k cr next
Wish I had enough brain cells for one of those tbh
write a guide that's not already covered, then we'll talk
tian and fuji basically write a guide of info in here everyday
if we just compiled it
well he said not already covered. so i guess the assumption is ur gonna write somethingf those guys didn't
the true secrets
like BT curio
i feel like ive already spread the way of the bt curio
theres a random 2700 feral playing it now
i bet hes claiming it was his idea


writing something comprehensive for resto or guardian would be a fast tract to green, past that talk to glyph and/or guilty and if they come to me with a green light
it'll be a consideration
that's what i mean by "not already covered,"
lakerz this is ur chance
Lmao green here I come fuckers
@tiny oar for expert

yeah
feel like hes a pver now
pretty sure he has pvp and pve expert
only glyph posts here regurlarly tbh
U n formy n mach r all green in my eyes @stray sigil 💚
ik
f2f and tian are orange in my eyes
regular
i meant big boy orange
just active and helpful, unfortunately there's a rather lack of pvp regulars because of the lack of mod attention
no
me neither
and half the time ur in here to flirt with tian


tahts why im here always
what am i doing wrong that my starsurges are critting for 4k instead of 30k
i'll be honest and say i haven't pvp'd in a while, really just here to keep everything in check when i can
@obtuse ice did tell me tian is cute at some point
true its my server
ur just a bystander
ur in here cuz me and tian allow it
partly why i've been hesitant on promoting pvp regs

Thoughts on best 3's comps for Resto?
but srsly am i missing a 10x dmg multiplier somewhere
is ur ilvl giga low
color name is too much pressure tho. Cuz we all know color name = always right. ist hard to always be right
200 ilvl night fae
no, color name = always right
@winter breach uh ya thats a bit low
regulars at least, are wrong more often than one might think. but i can understand for experts
maybe link ur armory or something
@stray sigil ure cute 2 dw

200 to 220 makes u 10x dmg?
gear is big yes
i memeing.
people are 220 + by now
glyph is always wrong @surreal heron

plays boomy and not feral
^^ ^ ^ ^

ur armory not showing up for me
normally id think its just gear but 9x dmg seems too much
i mean 30k surges is like
some really big boy crits
like really really big boy critsz
what about 50k bites 
not u too
u saw that convo? lol
oh yeah
that man was on something
that guy was crazy
lol
what leggo are we running for boomie rbgs? (night fae)
would you advise a balance noob to go for boat?
Resto rogue or resto sp alive in 2s?
kyrian NF or necros for feral in jungle, whatchu think
i think if ur only gonna pvp kyrian is better. if ur gonna do any pve at all really u prob want NF
no pve at all. im leaning towards kyrian, but NF can sometimes end games by itself so thats attractive
but +15% dmg on every go is also good
sounds like u know whats up, just gotta make ur own choice from therre
ill try to be strong...do you think there will be a place for a bleed-based build in the future or nah
whats the spell hit cap for pvp now
yeah so i dont miss every spell
Has anyone ran CoLD for feral in PvP, mainly RBG's?
quick, write a guide so u can be green

F2f never coloured

Poor soul
tried to play with a rando lfg disc priest and lost 70 rating 😦
back down to 1430 ... sigh






