Also, other question. I'm at 20% vers w/ what shitty PvP gear I have and my PvE gear. Would you wear on-use + PvP trinket or PvP Trinket + 226 Glyph of Assimilation?
#pvp
abstract cloak
kindred dragon
I guess to be more clear ralazzar, what I mean is my key press for rejuv is 1 while in caster form, while in cat my key press for 1 is rake. I was trying to figure out if it was possible for my cat form key 1 to rake while targeting an enemy, but also cast rejuv if I’m targeting my teammate, which I think can work with harm:help. However that means in cat form, I have to first target my teammate.
Basically I’ve already realized it’s not possible to have a damage ability and a targeted healing ability all in one keybind, since such a thing doesn’t even make sense.
digital pulsar
Is Timeworn Dreambender solid for RBGs?
weak hinge
yes
rich crag
I don't see why not but if you do that remember will pull you out of form though
kindred dragon
Yeah I don’t mind being pulled out as I’m playing rdruid feral affinity with an arms partner so I’m in caster form a lot
crude minnow
@digital pulsar dreambinder and boat are both good. Dreambinder has better kill pressure (with foe) outside of convoke and is better for securing kills without relying on others. You can swap leggos on rbg so can use both
queen ginkgo
Guys, do we have any macros to vew for boomie kyrian ( kindred spirits )
i swap recently to T.dreambeder lege and from nf to kyrian and im looking to setup 😛
weak hinge
@queen ginkgo tbh i have a hard time understanding what ure asking
crude minnow
Use kindred + 1m trinket... That's about it
Foe could be put in there but you may wanna use it earlier or something
primal bane
why are hunters rlly good vs rmp?
tardy hare
Flare, pet, slow, stun, dmg
queen ginkgo
i want to see a guide how to use correctly the [Timeworn Dreambinder] playstyle
weak hinge
@primal bane hitting people through walls...
queen ginkgo
And if there any decent macros to play with on openers etc
primal bane
my guy u really mentioned stun slow and dmg as if thats a particularity of hunters
weak hinge
@queen ginkgo pool 100 ASP; use FOE; dump a lot of starsurges with kyrian+on use trinket
primal bane
but yeah i cansee flare being rly good here
abstract cloak
I can't believe I actually just started the season buying actually all the wrong pieces. I bought on-use trinket, Medallion.... ugh, rip 1k conquest
tardy hare
Not every class has an undispellable ranged slow
tardy hare
No escape
tall knoll
Nez, So on-use trinket plus cc removal trinket is not the way to go for balance pvp?
queen ginkgo
@weak hinge ill try this to see if that's so simple :p just i'm confused cause i was playing 2 months the convoke ballance all things build
weak hinge
its ez af tbh
queen ginkgo
Thanks also 😛
abstract cloak
All the top boomies I see are using proc trinket and medallion at 220 is just a waste on conq
weak hinge
way easier than boat
primal bane
man thinking about it i really cant wait for hunter buffs
abstract cloak
197 would have been fine
primal bane
so much fun shit and so few buttons to care about
junior plover
Do MM hunters get the talent
that makes the target crit immune?
or is it just survi
primal bane
i think its a pet
junior plover
Its a pvp talent
primal bane
so nah
tardy hare
they do ye
tardy hare
i ment they do ye as in play with pet
junior plover
Yee
tardy hare
idk anything about hunter talents
junior plover
Roar of Sacrifice
tardy hare
ye
tardy hare
used to be tank spec pets
primal bane
yk roar was so much more fun
when u didnt have to actually worry about ur pet dying 24/7
tardy hare
hmm
junior plover
anyway thats why Jungle and MM Pala is really good into rmp
You trade RoS for Combustion every time
RMP literally cant win
On a completely different note
Can you imagine if in AWC
each team got 1 ban per game
to just ban a spec
primal bane
i would not stop at a spec
junior plover
Just imagine for a second how good that'd be for the tournament
primal bane
paladin needs to go back in the basement
junior plover
There's always a meta where 1 spec dominates either the heal slot, the caster slot or the melee slot
tall knoll
Either (holy) pala or mage ban then i guess?
junior plover
Probably a lot of hpal bans
junior plover
Nah it bans it
tall knoll
Interesting topic :)
junior plover
only for your opponent
you can still pick it
I'd love that
Would you rather play vs mage or hpal? Maybe your opponent only plays melee cleaves so you ban arms
or maybe hunter is meta and you play rmp
so you ban hunter
cool stuff
I don't think they'll do it because they probably don't want a disconnect between ladder and pro play
primal bane
hpal?
primal bane
id say ret has higher chances of being banned than hpal
primal bane
so cringe
how is m+ amassing so many players to do it
its competitive dummy training
loot mediocre too
tough osprey
tall knoll
I mean rewards in m+ suck. But what else you gonna do if pvp is not your thing
safe goblet
any prefeed cov for feral pvp? Night Fae?
primal bane
i like raiding, though they could do something about them not beign so big and slow to move in
what really gets to me in raiding is that the bosses really have no nuance but people still fuck them up heavily
like a bot account with DBM on it should be able to do heroic raiding
crude minnow
People aren't bots. Who knew
primal bane
i really could do without a mandatory stat tho
tall knoll
Kinda awkward when vers isnt particularly good in pve for your class. But its good enough for me for some m+
primal bane
ye but idk what having mandatory pvp stat fixes
a 226 god might do very average parses in heroic/mythic CN just bc its duelist gear
and a pretty good pve player trying to get into pvp might get 2 shotted with 45k hp
tall knoll
Better than having no gear at all for pve content when having pvp exclusive stat?
I think its fine
crude minnow
Vers is like 15% dr max. Let's not act like having 226 gear with 10% vers is gonna stop you from doing anything in pvp
stray sigil
yesyes
primal bane
15% dr is huge, its not stopping anybody but overall ilvl increases feel huge
tall knoll
Isnt it more like 25% with the double pvp trinket +40% buff
crude minnow
Vers is a pretty good inbetween solution to resilience. Makes it so pve gear isn't the end all and makes it so pvp gear doesn't blow too badly in pve
30% vers is 15% dr, with or without trinket set
stray sigil
@rigid linden do u like it
tall knoll
So the trinket set does nothing with close to 30% vers? Or am i misunderstanding something
crude minnow
It affects the damage/healing done, not the damage taken portion
tall knoll
Ooh didnt know that. Thanks.
Guess that would be too busted then. Is that the reason why some people use raid trinket + stun removal trinket
junior plover
any prefeed cov for feral pvp? Night Fae?
NF or Kyrian
Kyrian technically more competitive but NF works too
junior plover
like a bot account with DBM on it should be able to do heroic raiding
Wait until you learn of chess engines
who knew chess was so absurdly easy bots could beat world champions lol
primal bane
anyone that thought ab it for a bit
there is always an objectively best choice
and very exact numbers to play with
so ur left with a human who can eventually do mistakes vs a bot that cant
primal bane
big agree
junior plover
No real way around it without introducing toxic amounts of randomness
tall knoll
Are you comparing high level chess bots to people standing in stuff on the ground in a raid? xD
junior plover
I'm saying "bots can do it"
is the shittiest argument there is
no shit bots can do it, bots can play pretty much any game better than humans
Even DOTA2 at this point
tall knoll
A good bot. Generalzing works in both directions
junior plover
HC raiding is meant as a challenge for the casual playerbase
if you don't like it's difficulty
there's always mythic
so i really don't get it
If you feel like it's so easy that you could do it blind
you don't have to play it
there's literally a harder mode for people like you lol
tall knoll
Yeah i definitely agree on that one
sly vector
Do i pick Stellar Drift or Twin Moonks for RBGS ?
hushed pivot
primal bane
how tf u bad on boomie bruh
mild patrol
Twin moon in pvp?! Shit I've never used it before
placid mirage
U can be bad on any class sometimes it just doesn't click
turbid coral
Not seeing much through Google. I assume for Guardian PVP, Legacy of the Sleeper and Natural Order's Will are the general legendaries to run?
placid mirage
Ya
Legacy good for fc
And base sitting
If ur tryhard you can swap to NOW when it on cd
turbid coral
I assume Legacy for FC running, and point sitting. Switch to Order's will when sitting in base with flag?
placid mirage
I mean legacy still pretty good if you have incarn on def
But I don't guardian so prob best judgment
You will likely have to incarn crossing map anyways so yeah
turbid coral
aight ty
fathom oxide
how tf u bad on boomie bruh
😦
hardy blade
best what to spend honor? quick gearing guide?
digital pulsar
Im crafting dreambender chest, what secondaries? mastery/verse?
digital pulsar
still trout
Wtf how LOL
junior plover
idk not my screenshot
im assuming in convoke with conflux and dark archangel
or smth
still trout
Yeah something nuts
lime light
convoke trait mastery from niya prolly bt
tulip falcon
I assume Legacy for FC running, and point sitting. Switch to Order's will when s...
use sleeper when in base as well
you shouldn't have to incarn when crossing
it makes kiting super easy
if you are just sitting on flag spot you die anyway
blissful belfry
im assuming in convoke with conflux and dark archangel
Probably on a tank too. they take inc damage
junior plover
True
forest kite
Anyone right around 1800 rn?
Actually anyone on here can you put your cr and what you finished at last season?
junior plover
Oh my god i just discovered the greatest trick
forest kite
Just curious
junior plover
While Feral Frenzy is going off
you can spin with turnspeed 2500
it doesnt interrupt it
or anythinhg
junior plover
Actually anyone on here can you put your cr and what you finished at last season...
2100 never played pvp before in my life
forest kite
Yeah I’m 1800 and didn’t play before. Think I’m just bad
junior plover
1800 is top 8%
forest kite
But people I’m playing with saying they were 2300 last season
junior plover
really not bad for your first season
blissful belfry
peaked 2177 bfa resto druid. 3s. peaked 2186 SL boomy 3s.
junior plover
like 2.5 or 3
tulip falcon
depends who you talk to in terms of whats considered "bad"
i know someone last season who said that anyone below 3k is awful
junior plover
You probably are bad at 1800
I'm bad at 2100
I can feel it
I know I have lots of room to grow
blissful belfry
yeah, good and bad is relative
blissful belfry
a warrior in my raid group says he's good and i should try him out in pvp. but he had to pay for 1600 carry cuz he couldnt do it himself
relative
junior plover
kek
tulip falcon
some people think topping killing blows in a random bg means they are good at pvp
forest kite
Yeah i know I’m bad and I’m trying to get better. Just been so hard to find people. I’ve just been requiring discord from this point on sitting in LFG for 45 mins.
blissful belfry
some people think toppin dmg done with satrfall in rbg is being good at pvp
tulip falcon
true
forest kite
Imagine pressing starfall in a bg
tulip falcon
with the 1300 3s and 2.3k rbg guy?
blissful belfry
there!
tulip falcon
lmao
blissful belfry
sKiLls
tulip falcon
i hope that guy had higher exp and was just like trolling in arena
blissful belfry
i mean, my warlock friend is at 2.2k cr in rbg
and he, for the sake of god, is the worst pvp player i've ever seen
tulip falcon
bro i saw a 2.5k guardian who was keyboard turning and backpeddling on my base trying to ninja it
blissful belfry
he cant get pass 1500 without bein carried
tulip falcon
i was so confused
blissful belfry
backpedling is a psychological tactic
you backpeddle so the ennemy lower his guard
tulip falcon
wouldn't surprise me if he had a chance at getting it because i was so confused at wtf he was doing
blissful belfry
then u strike
split timber
Any tips for bears for making damage in cat form during pvp? Tips that can improve cats dps? Talents?
Legendaries?
forest kite
Any tips for bears for making damage in cat form during pvp? Tips that can impro...
Check pinned messages under feral tab...
tulip falcon
but back to it anyway if you're 1800 in your first season playing its fine
time isnt really relative to anything
i remember seeing people around who've played 1000s of arena games and still hardstuck 1600
forest kite
I just really want to hit gladiator next season. This season I want 2100. I only played pve and now I don’t play it at all.
PvP has been way more skill expressive and fun
tulip falcon
aiming for glad in 2nd season might be a bit high of a goal but who knows
forest kite
I’m just curious why are people saying it’s really hard to climb this season?
tulip falcon
i mean its subjective
forest kite
Even pikaboo on stream said his alts don’t even crack 2k
Which could be bs but still
blissful belfry
alts are hard because no more scaling
blissful belfry
when you pop in queue at 160 ilvl
junior plover
3 alts 2.2k+
blissful belfry
doesnt matter if u good
tulip falcon
idk i queued one proper session of 3s this season and hit 2.2k mmr in a few hours from starting when im max 2.3k exp
seems easy to me
than other seasons ive played
forest kite
idk i queued one proper session of 3s this season and hit 2.2k mmr in a few hour...
Okay but are you playing with people you’ve played with before and in voice?
blissful belfry
issa hard when u got 20k max hp
tulip falcon
no
i played with a russian disc who was not on voice and a french hunter ive never played with before
he was on voice
forest kite
So how the fuck do you even win😂
tulip falcon
idk people just do what they need to do
blissful belfry
u aint need no comms to win games
forest kite
Mind if I dm you krass?
hot viper
what soulbind do you resto druids use in pvp?
potent void
my friend and I are pvp noobs, is hpal + boomie an ok composition for 2v2s and is there some simple strategy we could be using
blissful belfry
aura mastery bop on you. you incarn convoke
aura mastery stops the kicks, bop stops the cc
potent void
will just convoking maybe kill someone or should we wait til someone is cc’d or low on health or something like that
blissful belfry
depends on the other team and many factors.
potent void
the key factor is our rating is like 500 and neither we nor our opponents know how to play good
blissful belfry
with convoke i can kill someone 3 times over. just depends how many defensive they put and how many heals they toss out to cover the dam
Super low mmr is wild. You face ''geared'' player who are absolutely garbage and goodish player at 140 ilvl
potent void
makes sense. our team is geared garbage bc we usually raid or m+
split timber
Check pinned messages under feral tab...
But ferals have more abilities right?
blissful belfry
makes sense. our team is geared garbage bc we usually raid or m+
Depending on your gear you can just be cat stealth, and when you find a good window you just press incarn convoke
if you are 210+, you can kill any ennemy player that doesnt react
potent void
if I incarn from stealth will it go right into owl or do I need to do that separately
remote cave
Try it out
potent void
ok
tulip falcon
if I incarn from stealth will it go right into owl or do I need to do that separ...
it does
grand mesa
Incarn from stealth will put you in owl yeah
forest kite
My winrate is stuck at 50% at 1700 RBG. I just want 1800 for the gear for mythic prog. Any advice for making that climb with pugs? i'm balance, 218 24 vers
blissful belfry
Incarn from stealth put you in owl. Celestial alignement from stealth doesnt
forest kite
yeah i knew that. typically i'm out of stealth pre moonfiring everything before a voke though
i assumed it's the same as pve content where voke won't moonfire things that are already moonfired, therefore more starsurges
I'm trying to more or less copy the playstyle of some high level RBG players on my boomie. I'm new to it all and just want 100 more CR and i'm done D:
tulip falcon
he was answering a previous question about incarn/stealth
forest kite
i just hardly find myself using incarn without voking so it seemed to tie in
tulip falcon
ah lol
junior plover
Accidentally killed 40k life Shaman through Earthen Wall in opener
I dont mind this kyrian thing
placid mirage
At low rating you are better off surprising out of stealth than being worried if it casts a moonfire
The extra gcd matters
blissful belfry
Surprising outta stealth has proven better in most situation for me
they dont have you in focus frame, dont know where u are
placid mirage
If you get a flank you give them as little time as possible to figure out where you are and react with cc or interrupt
blissful belfry
outta stealth allows to isolate a target much easier
forest kite
Should I do that from the healer backline or? my strat was generally to look for cyclones on a healer, rootbeam on another, and voke then
so, pop out of kitty and slam. but from where?
placid mirage
At 500 u can just flank healer and convoke
blissful belfry
against disc and hpal i just cat stealth to the healers backline and cavoke him to oblivion if his dps arent close to peel
forest kite
well im at 1700 there are gladiators playing in those RBGs often
blissful belfry
shammies are though cuz of sheer and ghrounding
the occasional holy priest can chastize
placid mirage
Whoops I was looking at the wrong person
forest kite
ya im referring to getting 100 more for my 220 gear. i mainly mythic raid./
and keys
placid mirage
You can either flank their healers and root beam into convoke
Or play far back and convoke melee
You want to try and isolate the convoke onto 1-2 targets
forest kite
That's good to hear, i'll try to position them better. Right now that's probably one thing holding me back, i'm not getting the voke kills I could be getting.
placid mirage
If you convoke melee you are usually out of range of interrupts too
Also melee usually runs like dipshits into your team
If you're going for healers you want to beam hpal or shaman as prio and try to kill the discs they are easiest
forest kite
so my strategy of CCing and being careful with my voke was probably dog shit and losing me kills. I'll try what yall suggested and see if t hat pushes me towards more wins
placid mirage
The problem is the more time you are out of stealth the longer they are tracking you
forest kite
yup
placid mirage
It's okay to wait a bit at the beginning if you are in your backline but I usually never wait more than 10s
Especially at 1700
forest kite
I feel like this change alone might help a lot. It seems a lot of RBGs are decided by the first teamfight win at this lvl so yeah
placid mirage
Before you convoke you should track who you are likely going to hit and watch where your spells are going for a followup starsurge
tulip falcon
the gladiators are probably alts
placid mirage
If you are blasting a healer with convoke you can always rootbeam them after and throw two incarn surges before they can get out of it
placid mirage
Yeah if you open with convoke you can rootbeam a healer if you got them to like 20% to stop them recovering and then surge
forest kite
good good yes, my brain is enjoying this knowledge food
placid mirage
It may not be better than just root beaming at the start but something to keep in mind
blissful belfry
the problem with rootbeam into convoke is convoek doesnt target rooted players. If he doesnt trinket out of the root you just do nothin
rootbeam after can be good
placid mirage
Yeah but usually you can rootbeam one healer and convoke the others
Unless they are mega stacked
forest kite
all good info thanks guys
blissful belfry
the easiest targets to convoke are hpal and disc
placid mirage
I don't flank very often tbh I feel like it kind of wastes time while my team is getting blasted
placid mirage
Resto druid kekw
real granite
for RBG convoke, I always try to use the terrain for LOS wisely. In many team fight positions you can LOS ranged interupts and isolate their front line with your damage.
Think Market, or water works where you can use the houses to position beside
placid mirage
Yeah LOS makes convoke broken
blissful belfry
the funniest is assualting a base with convoke when the def isnt a stealth dude
i went in once it was a lock guarding, he put his pet on stay 20 yards from him, i just LoSed the pet and convoekd him. poor dude was tryna cut me and couldnt and by the time he sent a coil he was ded
placid mirage
I convoked a rogue the other day who just sat there and ate it
No spell reflect? xd
next lynx
rejoice everyone! rogues just figured out another, even stronger way to one shot people
hope you werent playing any 2s
placid mirage
Never been oneshot by a rogue
next lynx
ive only gotten oneshot once this expac
blissful belfry
ya people when they get convoke openb just goes surprised pikahu and panik, cant press a thing their brain get scrambled
next lynx
it was on my fresh 158 resto in a skirmish vs a fire mage lol
didnt even have a trinket yet 😭
placid mirage
158 resto sadge ur like flash paper
next lynx
personally, I blame the government
placid mirage
If they gave me my stimmy check I could have bought glad by now
blissful belfry
i remember early SL, i was still resto in arena back then, i got double surged by mattiu for 20k each. The troll was runnin double on use (EO and iqd i think)
early sl, 20k surge was insane
placid mirage
I still don't get 20k surges
next lynx
sounds like an average 2s sesh today
next lynx
you know, I was gearing up my warlock as well, but now rogue is about to fotm again unless they hotfix it O.o
placid mirage
What is the rogue thing
cursive leaf
Sup for boomie in RBG and Arenas we go vers mastery or vers haste?
blissful belfry
i like vers mastery
pulsar trail
Hey guys, beginner balance drood here looking to get into pvp. Any 1-shot macros or macros in general I should think about having?
blissful belfry
trinket incarn convoke is the only spell you need
next lynx
for a beginner balance druid, i will gift you this secret knowledge
pulsar trail
Here we go
next lynx
if you openly complain about convoke despite being a balance druid, you will trick people into thinking convoke is the problem
next lynx
when actually its just starsurge setups
although convoke does oneshot people sometimes also LOL
maybe not sometimes
maybe a lot of times
pulsar trail
Interesting
blissful belfry
well, theres 2 playstyle. convoke one shot cheese with boat and starsurge set up with dreambinder
surge set up work much less without dreambinder
next lynx
convoke oneshot will get you free rating for a while, but then you gotta actually play the game
i would def try both out tho, convoke does be hitting
blissful belfry
i've stuck with boat convoke one shot. a bit over 2.1k
pulsar trail
Sometimes I feel like convoke doesn’t do squat but maybe I’m hitting it at the wrong times
vale coyote
hey anyone know how to make the macro for incap roar and rejuv on the same button depending on whether im resto or guardian affinity
blissful belfry
i thought about crafting dreambinder to try it out, but i like one shots too much
vale coyote
also note on convoke it doesnt hit ppl who are rooted
so u cant root beam convoke ppl
next lynx
did they change it AGAIN again?
pulsar trail
Berserk then Incarn then convoke? Since im a troll
vast vapor
ideally berserk after convoke
vale coyote
does haste affect convoke? i didnt think it did but i am an uninformed loser
vast vapor
nope
vale coyote
yea berserk after for sure then
pulsar trail
ideally berserk after convoke
Ty
blissful belfry
did they change it AGAIN again?
convoke was only allowed to hit rooted target for a whoppin 4-5 hours before they changed it back
next lynx
ohh
i was wondering why boomkins started root beaming me and then doing nothing else
has anyone ever counter convoked a convoke? I do it on resto sometimes to see whos more of an alpha
vast vapor
yeah those patch notes were just trolling because I think they never told they reverted it
nocturne burrow
What is the dreambinder setup?
pulsar trail
well, theres 2 playstyle. convoke one shot cheese with boat and starsurge set up...
My bad but what’s “boat”
abstract cloak
What's amount of vers should I look for for pushing 2.1-2.4k rating? I have 20% and I feel like I get shredded
sly marsh
indigo dock
Do I need certain legandaries / covenant to be able to switch to efficient tanking in RBGs? Right now I'm just switching specs in my balance gear, but I am extremely squishy
potent void
hey anyone know how to make the macro for incap roar and rejuv on the same butto...
you want to use the “talent conditional” - see https://wow.gamepedia.com/Macro_conditionals
indigo dock
I guess without the "the natural orders will" there is no point trying to switch to guardian?
vast vapor
you want to use the “talent conditional” - see https://wow.gamepedia.com/Macro_c...
#showtooltip
/cast [talent:3/1] Maim
/cast [talent:3/2] Incapacitating Roar
/cast [talent:3/3] Swiftmend
this should give u example
wrong replytarget but whatever lul
tulip falcon
I guess without the "the natural orders will" there is no point trying to switch...
you want legacy of the sleeper not NoW
that lego is what makes guardian so good
you can get by without it but it's a big loss
indigo dock
Legacy of the sleeper, interesting. Does the damage / leech play a role as self-sustain or is it just for the cc immunity?
tulip falcon
mostly the cc immunity paired with incarn
but the leech/damage is a nice extra thing on top
potent void
ufr is a lot better defensively if you didn’t value the cc immunity, which is why it’s generally better for pve
tulip falcon
What's amount of vers should I look for for pushing 2.1-2.4k rating? I have 20% ...
Vers wont be much of a factor in pushing 2.4
An 1800 player with 20% vers will still be an 1800 player if they had 30% vers in most cases
vale coyote
you want to use the “talent conditional” - see https://wow.gamepedia.com/Macro_c...
ty :)
vale coyote
#showtooltip
/cast [talent:3/1] Maim
/cast [talent:3/2] Incapacitating Roar
/cas...
also ty :)
blissful belfry
i went from 4% vers to 22% and i think i gained 50 rating? Mostly not attributed to the vers but playin better
cold escarp
pants or boots for BOAT?
stray sigil
stray sigil
tardy hare
dude
2400-2500 is actually
so much harder
than 2500+
xd
cause of all the people farming wins
lime light
cuz of the boosts and overgeared ppl
mental bluff
is there a way to macro my trinkets into a cooldown except if it's the pvp medallion?
blissful belfry
if people at 2.6 are fuckin clowns... we low tier booboo are the whole goddamn circus
tardy hare
yes
vast vapor
is there a way to macro my trinkets into a cooldown except if it's the pvp medal...
well you can just type the trinket name into the macro but have to change it if you change the trinket
mental bluff
Yes I was trying to avoid having a macro I always need to update
vast vapor
then you generally want to use the pvp medallion in other trinket slot
just macro /use 13 into cds and put medallion in 14 if you play it
you'll likely want to use on-use trinket anyway with pvp trinket since those dont share cooldown
forest kite
Hi guys, is it normal to wait for lfg teams for 90% of your logged in time? I can't afford to spend this much of my free time doing essentially nothing, but lfg doesnt seem to work
clear pulsar
Yall gotta stop with the macro obsession
stone nest
Hi guys, is it normal to wait for lfg teams for 90% of your logged in time? I ca...
lfg for a bit and add people you like as you go and you will have people to play with eventually
forest kite
lfg for a bit and add people you like as you go and you will have people to play...
Ive added over 15 other people over the course of this seasons but they are almost always busy with some other content or cant play, and my guild has not once offered any teamups despite me asking in guild chat every time I log on
cursive leaf
it will take some time bro
i've struggled to the same thing when I came back on BFA
also, you can start searching communities
instead of guilds
obtuse ice
<:PogCat:797347121295654922>
BT curio savant
forest kite
also, you can start searching communities
do you know of any good horde communities? they arent realm locked right?
placid mirage
@clear pulsar my whole bar is just macros how else am I supposed to play boomer
My convoke macro on 1 thru 5 in case I miss
stray sigil
@obtuse ice thats me
obtuse ice
<@!219468141682491392> thats me
Ure cute ily nohomo
junior plover
Man
I swear to god
the dampen changes in 2s
were handpicked
to anally fuck me
Like it takes us 3.5 min to get through all pala cooldowns
and by then
our priest is always oom
i hate it
Have perfect setups for 3.5 min straight and still lose because its unwinnable vs pala warr >: (
If they have half a brain
IM GONNA GO POST ON REDDIT
tardy hare
good luck
junior plover
I realized I sound like the reddit guys
but seriously
hpal buffed massively in 2s
: (
feels so bad
junior plover
Worst thing is
I get pala down to 400hp
and he doesnt use anything
because he's this bad
and then rallying cry saves him
I hate having to work 10x harder for wins than these monkeys
placid mirage
Wdym that war is working hard man pressing his button
junior plover
Worst thing is
if that warr knew what he was doing
he'd intervene my every go
So I had no way to win the game despite him not using half his tools
placid mirage
Can't use intervene when u are spamming condemn
placid mirage
Idk what that bar is
placid mirage
IQ?
junior plover
lol
placid mirage
Damn locks
placid mirage
50k bites?
junior plover
Try convoking when
Warlock has essentially a phys damage immunity every 3 min
trinket every 2
2 interrupts
one usable in stun
placid mirage
Don't worry grounding totem absorbs one spell kekw
placid mirage
If I base sit as cat every game am I feral
junior plover
stray sigil
@clear pulsar im scared if i make the skin leggo ill like it too much
stray sigil
yes im afraid ill lose myself
edgy shale
i was watching syfoxy stream yesterday and he was running it against every rmp like a champ
stray sigil
the skin lego ?
edgy shale
yeah
stray sigil
u can play skin lego everywhere
clear pulsar
That's my boy
I abuse the shit out of it in bgs
Can survive for so long in a base
upbeat frost
serious q, what do you do as balance 1v1 against a rogue in arena
just kill yourself?
stay in bear through repeated cycles of stealth/sap/run around a pillar
edgy shale
rogue isn't fun to 1v1 on like any spec or class xcept maybe warrior / monk idk
placid mirage
Restealth and afk until he crashes
blissful belfry
rogue isnt fun to duel in any circumstances
they'll just keep resettin til they finally press the right button
blissful belfry
boat crit, that implies you can manage to enter eclipse uninterupted and then surge him
when you get a 1v1 vs rogue, its nice if you can even dot him before he goes away runnin again
placid mirage
I'm not saying it easy but just play like a cheesy bitch until incarn back up I guess
I mean I lose most of my 1v1 I'm just thinking
tropic panther
does anyone have a cheat sheet for who the kill target is in 2s playing as feral + healer
clear pulsar
when you get a 1v1 vs rogue, its nice if you can even dot him before he goes awa...
That doesnt really do anything
Cuz of the conduit
stray sigil
ya they just get res no matter what no
clear pulsar
Gives them like a 6k absorb everytime they restealth
stray sigil
cant stop them
blissful belfry
i know, my main point was mostly to say you cant set up a boat crit window in a rogue duel
when you can hardly cast 1 spell before they reset again
if he doesnt put you in kill range on his open, he'll just reset and try again later
upbeat frost
yeah, and frenzied regen barkskin etc just prolong the pain
upbeat frost
yeah def not
tropic panther
if you're running thorns ezpz
upbeat frost
you can't get him within clear line of sight
thorns? all they have to do is sap you until it goes on cd
blissful belfry
perhaps theres something to do with like, warstomp -> incarn convoke lucky double surge in the little stunned window
xD
if you got everything ready
placid mirage
Roar over stomp
placid mirage
O
upbeat frost
yeah stomp convoke is the only thing i can think of
tropic panther
solar beam into stomp
placid mirage
Bash kekw
blissful belfry
yeah, if you got bash instead of mass root
tropic panther
then convoke with skey baby
placid mirage
Anticipate the 1v1 ez
blissful belfry
ez
upbeat frost
okay, take bash for sure vs rogues
junior plover
convoke wont hit roar
Pretty sure it hits fear
junior plover
I think i distinctly remember convoking on a priest fear out of desperation and killing
Maybe it was like mid root changes
blissful belfry
perhaps, or he trinketed the fear and you didnt notice
clear pulsar
Could be that it broke
It'll still use thrash if enemy is in melee range
Regardless of CC
Pretty sure
blissful belfry
i played with a shadow in 2s the other day and im pretty goddamn sure i cussed at him cuz he feared my convoke
blissful belfry
Pretty sure
yes
gritty plume
What lego are people running for guardian in rbg's?
tulip falcon
What lego are people running for guardian in rbg's?
sleeper
gritty plume
ty!
surreal loom
NOW for spinning, sleeper for guarding base
tulip falcon
NOW for spinning, sleeper for guarding base
sleeper is better in all situations tbh
NoW really isn't needed
gritty plume
If you can only do one go sleeper?
tulip falcon
don't even bother getting NoW unless you have nothing else to get
sleeper is still better when holding flag in base for kiting
since you cant really afford to afk on flag spot in this meta
random patrol
only use now when berserk is on cooldown via item swap
get sleeper before now of course
gritty plume
Thanks guys!
tulip falcon
even then i wouldn't use NoW still, would rather make sure I have sleeper on their go if it comes off cd in combat
its only 2.5 min
so you generally have sleeper for every offense go
errant blaze
I really hope blizz makes it possible soon to get more soul ash, so many legendaries i wanna craft as a druid 🤦♂️
They should compensate druids tbh, on lock i dont need much more
iron briar
Just me or does feral convoke have the shortest range in the world?
tulip falcon
I just haven't envisioned a usage for NoW in place of sleeper, swapping on CD requires being out of combat and it's a 2.5 min cd
just doesn't seem worth
surreal loom
? NoW makes you infinitely more tanky
what do you mean
30 second barkskin cooldown and it gives you 30% dr, 2 regens (80% hp), and 2 ironfurs
tulip falcon
indeed, still feel like it falls short of sleeper
nothing will be as stupid as 30 sec of cc immunity
why do i need to be tankier when i can just infinitely kite
tulip falcon
idk where you are positioning but i've never been globalled by convoke as a tank in base
have no issues stopping it
if you are sitting on flag spot in the most open area then ye it will probably happen
your defense should just be you kiting all day with the lock slowing their offense
corruption slows etc
hence why sleeper is so good for that
start roof on wsg and balcony in twin peaks and lead them on a tour of the base
twin peaks base is super easy for lining damage
surreal loom
Sounds like a great plan until they send a stealthed rogue+boomy to cheap smoke bomb you into incarn convoke
where you aren't going to get to hit your buttons at all
tulip falcon
trinket exists
surreal loom
Are you going to trinket the kidney too?
tulip falcon
when are they doing this exactly
surreal loom
or spend your first global hitting incarn and praying you aren't dead
tulip falcon
when they open?
surreal loom
When you could just hit barkskin and be A-okay
forest kite
Imagine thinking a 10% dr will save you in any scenario
gleaming urchin
tulip falcon
it sounds like bad positioning
surreal loom
Imagine not knowing what NOW or barkskin does
and thinking a 30% DR with 40% heal and 1500 armor won't help you
placid mirage
Africa
surreal loom
why does it matter
tulip falcon
lol it matters a lot
surreal loom
you aren't getting outside help anyways cus you are in a smoke bomb
placid mirage
Smoke bomb is actually like ring of peace also
tulip falcon
so bomb isnt a factor
placid mirage
It knocks them out
tulip falcon
if you are on twin peaks balcony
on the left side of the door
they have to push in
your healers are there with you
bomb doesnt matter
surreal loom
did you forget the fact they are stealthed
tulip falcon
no?
placid mirage
Lol
surreal loom
cus hes just going to get sap into cheap into kidneyed
tulip falcon
do you not play with a hpala or something
surreal loom
You dont play with a disc priest to grip you up?
placid mirage
Then how did they kidney bomb u to start?
tulip falcon
yes we have hpala/disc on defense with lock
i don't think i've ever died this season in an opener
surreal loom
This is all moot; why do you need CC immunity on defense when you could just choose to not die; CC immunity wont save you with debuff stacks
surreal loom
How do you kite in bear
tulip falcon
with sleeper
surreal loom
?????
surreal loom
You dont run fast
tulip falcon
why do you need to lmao
figure out your pathing
lock corruption slows everything
use vortex
night fae blink
stampeding roar
etc
surreal loom
I mean you're acting like they send a goon squad of 8 people after you
tulip falcon
i mean if you aren't kiting theres probably your issue?
surreal loom
instead of just stealthies with cooldowns
placid mirage
If they send 2v4 how do u die
surreal loom
Cus debuff stacks and burst damage means you die almost regardless?
surreal loom
and they have the rest of their team stopping enemies from even enterring their base
tulip falcon
you already said you dont kite
placid mirage
Idk u can cc them pretty quickly too on the go
tulip falcon
like if you are sitting afk on flag spot trying to face tank whilst ur healers are out in the open also getting freely cced
you die
surreal loom
IDK I'd rather have a free 150% hp every 30 seconds
placid mirage
Then use NOW lmao
surreal loom
than 25 seconds of cc immunity every 2.5 minutes
tulip falcon
its 30 sec but ye
i don't understand how that isn't stupidly broken in your eyes but whatever
ill literally record a vid tomorrow with how easy it is to kite and survive an opener from any offense
tulip falcon
sure
tulip falcon
it comes down to your healers a lot as well
stray sigil
k so i tried skin lego @clear pulsar
placid mirage
I will prob ditch my healers sadge
tulip falcon
when kiting you just need to be aware of where your healers are and where their team is
all it is
placid mirage
That's a lot of awareness for one bear
tulip falcon
just remember if you have lock playing the right lego they are just permaslowing all their offense
placid mirage
Tru
tulip falcon
thats the main reason to have lock on d
but at low mmr you see tanks just afk on the flagspot and wonder why they eventually die after all cds have been rotated
placid mirage
Ya everyone I see starts up top and then starts moving once shit gets going
tulip falcon
ye like i said start on balcony in twin peaks because they have to push in if you line around the corner of the door
and then at back of roof on wsg
so they can aoe the entrance to the roof and slow up ramp
then you just kite from there
placid mirage
Yuge
tulip falcon
and you can also force them to open in an enclosed area if you are at the back of roof too and its easy to stop opener
same concept as balcony in tp
placid mirage
Do u wait like by the corner of that box to line
tulip falcon
on wsg?
rigid linden
placid mirage
Yeah
tulip falcon
yeah if its ally side its behind the box thing on the side nearest to the edge going down into base
same on horde but with the weird tower-y thing
you are in a good position if you have any knocks and need to kite down
because you can yeet straight into the lobby area
or get gripped up once enemies jump down if your disc is free
potent void
Gonna craft a BoaT for boomie pvp offspec - do I really want vers/haste for pvp even though haste doesn’t help convoke?
(just thinking of missives)
surreal loom
I mean you kinda just want enough haste to get your clone down below 1.5 seconds
Which you can get just by swapping up your gear
vers/mastery will be useful in pvp and pve
potent void
I’m ashamed to ask what is probably a ridiculous question but... what is “clone”
tulip falcon
cyclone
potent void
oh. lol
tulip falcon
a lot of people just shorten it to clone
potent void
yeah there’s a lot of conversations I have failed to follow
tulip falcon
lol fair
potent void
thanks, this great advice is gonna get me above 800 rating in no time, I can feel it
do you know what % haste is the cutoff here
tulip falcon
i'd imagine it can be hard to get to grips with a lot of lingo people use for stuff
potent void
yeah in pve as guardian I hardly ever cast cyclone but apparently it’s useful in pvp
tulip falcon
it's pretty much the best cc in the game
can't be dispelled/broken and the target can't be healed
potent void
so that is like 14% haste if I calculate correctly? 1.7 / 1.5 ... why is 1.5 seconds the magic number to beat
twilit siren
is there a gladius-like thing to keep track of teammates's trinkets, cd etc?
clear pulsar
Omnicd does it
Ties to party/raid frames
Gladiusex is an arena frame + party frame addon
That's like gladius with cd tracking
split timber
So guardians take 50 percent more damage in all pvp content including wpvp?
tulip falcon
ye believe its outside instanced pvp too
obtuse sleet
what talents do i take for rbgs as boomy?
is there a guide somewhere for this stuff ? 👀
twilit siren
if you fc as boomy you use now?
edgy shale
no
u use sleeper
healing for a bit isn't as good as cc immunity when ur job is to run across the map / not die
twilit siren
works with ca/incarn?
maiden trout
What’s the 2nd best leggo for feral in arena? Is it apex? Looking for an option that’s both solid in arena and m+.
Feels like not enough targets for apex to be good. Is it circle for the rot dmg?
edgy shale
sym isn't the end of the world in m+. its good enough for ksm. I think the best overall leggo is curio. apex is better in pve, but I dont like apex at all in pvp cuz its so unreliable
never get the procs during my goes
remote crag
Whats the best leggo for guardian fc?
edgy shale
i answered that like 2 lines up
edgy shale
tulip falcon
just go guardian if ur gonna FC
yea i wouldn't fc as boomie ever
never seen it work out
remote crag
For guardian fc stats is vers>mastery?
tulip falcon
maybe at lower mmr it can work? no clue
tulip falcon
For guardian fc stats is vers>mastery?
yes
remote crag
Wonderful! Lines up well with my boomie 🙂 thanks @tulip falcon
tulip falcon
remote crag
@tulip falcon which conduits would your recommend for guardian fc?
tulip falcon
just stack as many defensives as you can
well honed instincts, innate resolve and the barkskin cd reduction
are your best ones
tiny oar
When u play bt curio
wise valley
is there a scrapper equiv?
in slands?
@tiny oar when do u get leggos?
im doing campaign questline now
maiden trout
sym isn't the end of the world in m+. its good enough for ksm. I think the best ...
Appreciate it. Symm seems fun, and surprised it’s not better in m+ with the constant tigers fury reset. Just seeing that it sims the lowest
tiny oar
in slands?
No, and u gotta do the covenant campaign questline thru torghast to unlock the runecarver for leggos
gloomy token
yo im a mongo trying to figure out what pvp talents i should be taking as jungle cleave in 2s on my necrocat
gloomy token
thanks
clear pulsar
i also had something called ability team tracker which did something similar
Omnicd is ATT but better
clear pulsar
whats the stat prio for boomy?
The good stats
wise valley
@clear pulsar clasic
gloomy token
rip in face
but srs im a fuckin pepeg and could use some advice
lotp is hard locked because im double dps
i've had success with strength of the wild basically auto-winning us against healcomps
clear pulsar
The healing from lotp is super negligible tbh
I'd say sotw is more locked in that lotp
For offheals
gloomy token
tried rip and tear but it seems shit
dire nymph
Sometimes I go savage momentum vs caster comps
gloomy token
fresh wound was ok
clear pulsar
It costs too much energy I feel
dire nymph
Feels pretty good honestly
gloomy token
ya if it was 40e i'd be cool with it
king of the jungle is kinda inting because im draught
dire nymph
I wish king of the jungle was good :(
Multi dotting feels like you're just throwing combo points in the trash
gloomy token
is anyone getting good value out of high winds?
like it could be ok against rets and dhs
clear pulsar
I like high winds but i don't think we can afford to run it very often
dire nymph
I was trying it vs mongo melee cleaves. wasn't bad but I'm not sure it's good
clear pulsar
Maybe if you don't bite a lot then fero wound not so good!? Idk
gloomy token
i mean my go is still bite ff bite
clear pulsar
I think sotw wound lotp thorns savage all better talents in their respective situations
dire nymph
Agreed
gloomy token
is it worth taking the bite conduit then? i was running evolved swarm+carn instincts
gloomy token
im li because draught
clear pulsar
Too much dam
gloomy token
but maybe its worth finding a different lego
clear pulsar
LI felt kinda negligible dam
gloomy token
me and my surv hunter have been having big success in like, dots up on one guy chain cc the other while running away
because he's like 175 ilvl lmfao
kindred dragon
As rdruid am I better off having my 1,2,3 keys be just normal spells; and use scroll wheel to target? Or better to make 1,2,3 always target my partner and then cast? I feel like I’m getting sucked into macro madness and it’s making me worse then I was using frames to heal.
wise valley
whatever feels best
keybinds are entirely up to the person using them
although i just started healing in pve and using clique/grid is so much better than macro
all heals are bound to mouse buttons and i already know how to incorporate it into pvp
kindred dragon
Yeah PVE the grid is the way to go without a doubt, in arena I find it a little slow
wise valley
dont need grid
i meant clique
the mouse buttons on clique work on the arena frames from sarena or gladiusex
and the keyboard is left to bound with skills
clear pulsar
Just play however you're comfortable
wise valley
for like 123 if u really need
clear pulsar
I target with alt shift ctrl
Alt F is regrowth on myself, Shift F is party1, Ctrl F is party2, so on for each spell
tiny oar
As rdruid am I better off having my 1,2,3 keys be just normal spells; and use sc...
Sum ppl use scroll wheel some use 123 I use mouse buttons to target it's all the same shit whatevers most comfortable 2 u
clear pulsar
I think mouseover actively hinders your movement but it's better than setting some other way of targeting up that you never get to feel comfortable with
There are people healing with mouseover throughout the entire ladder up to rank 1s
kindred dragon
I’m thinking I will try scroll wheel and leaving the Rjuv,regrowth and lifebloom as just normal targeted and then make an “oh shit” for auto targeting my partner to cast overgrowth.
kindred dragon
Alt F is regrowth on myself, Shift F is party1, Ctrl F is party2, so on for each...
Is each f bind separate macros? Or all one macro?
Like: /cast [mod:alt,target=player] /cast [mod:shift,target=player1]
kindred dragon
Makes sense, thank you
tiny oar
stone nest
I’m comfortable clicking frames is that ok
green valve
clear pulsar
tiny oar
That feel when more ppl played prot pally than rdruid
gloomy token
safe heart
he literally just sat on me with incarn spamming thrash and killed me
couldnt bash, couldnt do anything
surreal heron
tiny oar
Sounds like ur healer might be useless cuz who dies to quantity 1 bear doing ST dmg lol
edgy shale
holy palys pump!
tiny oar
Oo lol that explains it yea u lose that every time then
surreal heron
wait, they had a hpal and didn't pop owlvoke
safe heart
they were trying to get trinket and i didnt think i needed to pop wall for the thrashes but idk lol
idk maybe just the trauma of even seeing that comp against me made my brain leak
tiny oar
Ya a good hpal will do more dmg than the bear 4 sure I feel like
safe heart
he did i think
tiny oar
But if ur seeing that comp I'm guessing it's not at a very high rating lol
tiny oar
So maybe not a good hpal