pvp

[tulip falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyNex12pkK0

i play it once

[tardy hare]

calm map

[tulip falcon]

it isnt later

[tardy hare]

when does it get fast

[tulip falcon]

wait maybe it was a diff song by them

let me find

[junior plover]

Krassz embarassed that he thought that was fast

[split timber]

Any venthyr bear that does PvP?

[junior plover]

Feels bad man

[tulip falcon]

https://youtu.be/2V5WCrqlkE8?t=48

nah was this one

thx

[tardy hare]

hmmm

[tulip falcon]

wtf

[tardy hare]

there's no direction blocks there

thats kinda easy

[tulip falcon]

i guess that thumbnail was too much

lol

[tardy hare]

pretty foolproof

looks pretty chill to play tho

might download it

[tulip falcon]

nice flex

idk i dont even own VR i just played it at a friend's house

[junior plover]

I'd play like skyrim vr but im addicted to 2 screens and social media and shit

feels so lonely

[tardy hare]

@junior plover can you see hours played in beat saber itself?

idk i get nauseous af when playing skyrim vr

cant handle it

[junior plover]

no clue

[tardy hare]

ah

[junior plover]

yeah i tried minecraft vr

almost puked

after literally 2 min

[tulip falcon]

is there any black midi maps for beat saber

[tardy hare]

wtf is black midi

[junior plover]

And I'm not enough of a 15yo to sit in vr chat

[turbid jolt]

is burrs really going to be worth in 2s?

for cat

[junior plover]

there's just nothing to do

😠

[stray sigil]

convoke is meme

[turbid jolt]

it just doesn't seem to proc much

[tulip falcon]

https://youtu.be/PWf5XJAxVSM?t=40

ah here we go

[stray sigil]

play bt curio kyrian

[junior plover]

Burrs sound like poop compared to a conduit

but you get 2nd endu

so theres that

[turbid jolt]

yeah i guess the healing increase will be solid but idk if it will be as match changing as the convoke damage securing a kill vs like 10% hp left

but i don't know wtf i'm talking about just gut feeling

[wise valley]

lets not talk about beat saber

in this sacred channel'

@tardy hare pls dont corrupt anymore....soft minds

[tardy hare]

i have like 50 hours only

on beat saber

smh

casual player

[wise valley]

i havent shaved or cut my fingernails since i got covid

waiting until this sunday

[surreal heron]

[tardy hare]

[junior plover]

Poggers

[tardy hare]

that looks like a fun map actually

[junior plover]

Guys imagine being circumcised

[wise valley]

i share all knowledge with my brothers for free

[junior plover]

fucking genital mutilation by your parents

[tulip falcon]

wat

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

facts

[junior plover]

Any EU bois with their dick skin intact

[tulip falcon]

yes

but how did we go to beat saber then circumsision

[junior plover]

See

[stray sigil]

is how

[junior plover]

it's just a good topic

[stray sigil]

u saw it

[wise valley]

uncut wankers look funny

[junior plover]

for a casual chat

[stray sigil]

i dont need to rwrite it

[junior plover]

They do look kinda funny ngl

[stray sigil]

fuck u mean

[tulip falcon]

i know an american who said it looks like an anteater

[stray sigil]

i got my hood

[junior plover]

But I appreciate I am an adult who can decide to make it look less funny

[stray sigil]

hoodie for my pp

[junior plover]

Make children dick cuts illegal 2024

MCDCI

rolls off the tongue

Top of /r/worldofpvp btw

[tulip falcon]

my onlyfans subscribers prefer it

[junior plover]

1800 RGB player tips

[stray sigil]

one of u two idiots

need to change pic

too similar

[tulip falcon]

what

[junior plover]

one is dog

[stray sigil]

hard to tell who is who

[junior plover]

other is cat

[haughty compass]

Lots of new people getting into pvp. Good for him

[stray sigil]

look

[tulip falcon]

mine is my actual dog

im not changing

[stray sigil]

i dont make the rules

[junior plover]

ok i'll change to my cat

[stray sigil]

change it now

[junior plover]

actually

good ide

a

[haughty compass]

Imagine this is your first pvp season getting deleted every game

[stray sigil]

good

[junior plover]

I mean good for him its just

[stray sigil]

if u play

ww war ret

boomy

[junior plover]

If you're dead average

[stray sigil]

mage

[junior plover]

maybe dont make guides

[stray sigil]

u deserve it

[junior plover]

[wise valley]

my middle finger nail is like 1/4 past the tip of my finger flesh

[haughty compass]

Lol I feel that. But 1800 is a big deal to some people

[wise valley]

i can clack my nails

[tulip falcon]

tbh no one makes rbg guides

lol

[wise valley]

all natty acrylics

[haughty compass]

Good info for new players

[tulip falcon]

i made one in season 12 on mmo champion then did an interview on team waffle podcast

god it was cringe

does that still exist

it was like a druid podcast

[junior plover]

new pic who dis

wait it didnt update

[tulip falcon]

lol

[junior plover]

Actually i like this one

UPDATE

[blissful belfry]

lol

[junior plover]

thanks

kinda smol

[tulip falcon]

wtf is that

need to zoom in

[junior plover]

my kitty cat

feral

[stray sigil]

ya idk

[junior plover]

OK ILL ZOOM

[stray sigil]

he is

soimethingelse

[junior plover]

GOTTA UPLOAD IT TO MY PC

[stray sigil]

drop on head

as a child

[tulip falcon]

lol

[wise valley]

IM A NIGHT FAE BOY

[stray sigil]

[wise valley]

wtf

when can io start pvping

[tulip falcon]

ive been sat in premade finder for 3s without a single sign up for 2 hours now

maybe this push aint happening

[stray sigil]

when u switch

to kyrian

u cant start pvp

[wise valley]

bro

im gonna convoke

why would i be kyrian

[stray sigil]

ok wait till u actually play convoke

see how much u like it then

[wise valley]

why would i not like it

[split bluff]

because it makes you play like a pleb

[native totem]

I feel like I'm endlessly controlled by rogues in 2s, how do I deal with this?

[split bluff]

wish it didnt exist at all

[wise valley]

im gonna call the heavens down on some idiots head

rn

[junior plover]

look at my kitty

all of u gotta compliment her

[wise valley]

bro

[stray sigil]

ur gonna call .1s of it

[junior plover]

she deserves it

[wise valley]

thats the cutest shit ever

[stray sigil]

and get insta ccd

[junior plover]

ikr

[stray sigil]

or kicked

[junior plover]

and i was playing feral in classic in the vid

full circle

[wise valley]

imagine not baiting kicks

[stray sigil]

tre then it does 20 dmg

cuz its feral convoke

and not boomy

[wise valley]

im boomy

ty

good tedta;kl

[surreal heron]

bait kick, blast a full moon

ez

[tulip falcon]

bait kick

convoke

get stunned

[surreal heron]

imagine being a non-bear without legacy

[tulip falcon]

ye why play boomie just guardian with balance aff

is the way forward

[stray sigil]

since when are u boomy sunshine

that is some fake news

[wise valley]

since i said so

i can be whatever i want

even a waffle

[stray sigil]

ok otism

[junior plover]

there we go new pic

IT LOOKS

TERRIBLE

one more try

[tulip falcon]

thats what happens when ur cat is black

[junior plover]

how will i ever show a cat this small

bro

racist?

[tulip falcon]

you dont see details in small pics

looks like a blob

[wise valley]

@clear pulsar what did u say fast conq grind was?

[stray sigil]

its not fast

he is drunk

honor cap is

[clear pulsar]

RBG

Fast honor and conq grind

[stray sigil]

hes a feral

[clear pulsar]

It's like 150 conq per win

[stray sigil]

with prob

140 ilvl

[crude minnow]

@junior plover I'm gonna dispell your world buffs

[stray sigil]

hes not getting in any rbgs

[wise valley]

im boomking with 120 ilvl thanks

[junior plover]

i hate u

[wise valley]

138

[junior plover]

I quit because fuck worldbuffs

tbc announcement in 2 weeks tho

[stray sigil]

feral in tbc ?

pog

[crude minnow]

Me too. I gm/mt/raid lead for a year and quit due to burnout

[junior plover]

POG INDEED

I played all through phase 2/3

[wise valley]

shut the fuck up about classic

game sucks

[junior plover]

it was good times

[wise valley]

ty

[stray sigil]

tbc

not classic

[crude minnow]

Shut the fuck about teletubbies

[stray sigil]

u dumb fucking ape

[junior plover]

had more fun than ive ever had in retail pve tbh

[wise valley]

tbc sucks too

[junior plover]

by a long shot

but worldbuff meta killed me

[crude minnow]

Yeah 2vX world pvp in phase 2 on a 10% horde server was fucking pog

[wise valley]

yeah i really enjoyed 39 other apes talking over each other trying to kill a 15 year old boss with 1 mechanic

and failing

[crude minnow]

Most fun in any game ever

[tulip falcon]

lmao thats basically whats in my mind when i think of classic

[junior plover]

mfw tbc in 3 months

[wise valley]

bro do u know how many people i saw struggle with poison boss in gate

easiest shit ever

[junior plover]

No one's really struggling with boss mechanics in classic

not until deep naxx anyway

[wise valley]

classic attracts the mentally inadequate

[junior plover]

where they actually do have mechanics believe it or not

[wise valley]

@junior plover my friend you are so wrong

[junior plover]

I mean

sure SOME people do

but check WCL

[crude minnow]

When you think you're gonna feral tbc arena but you're really gonna restokin lol

[junior plover]

like 80% of people cleared BWL day1

on their first raid*

[wise valley]

thats cus everyone joins a better raid led by normal people

they got 0 loot

[junior plover]

But i do find it funny that Vanilla Naxx bosses actually do more damage than WOTLK Naxx bosses did

[wise valley]

tag a longs

[junior plover]

despite players having 70% less stats

Wotlk naxx was such a joke

[crude minnow]

I'm excited to get hardstucj at 1800 in tbc like the trashcan I am

[junior plover]

I will play feral in tbc arena

and u cant stop me

it will however stop me from getting to queue with good players

[tulip falcon]

i wonder if tbc arena will be full of wintraders for the authentic experience

[junior plover]

[wise valley]

@stray sigil watch me buy m0 world tour

[junior plover]

There we go

feral cat pic

WONT GET BETTER

its a cat and its giga angry take it or leave it

[tulip falcon]

slightly works

[junior plover]

u can see the mouth kinda

so it tells the story

[wise valley]

i love ur cat

[junior plover]

thank u

i love her too

but shes bigger now

that was like 3 months back

[wise valley]

thrown it away

get another

a smoler one

[hoary ledge]

how is feral / balance builds in arena TBC?

[junior plover]

modern pic

watching me poop

[junior plover]

you can play restoboomkin

but thats about it

feral is a meme

[wise valley]

wow

nvm

[junior plover]

owl is the biggest meme youve ever seen

[wise valley]

they want 300k for world tour

for 200k more i could buy more 2.6k in 3s

the fuck

[junior plover]

kek

[hoary ledge]

Is restoboomkin good at all?

NS clone is nuts

[junior plover]

Its a viable resto build

[hoary ledge]

but is the damage there in anyway?

rip

[junior plover]

as in

a heal spec

[hoary ledge]

meme spec life

[junior plover]

not a damage spec with healing

and by saying owl is a meme spec

i dont mean bm hunter meme

i mean literally unplayable

its worth like 0.2 mages

[hoary ledge]

lmao looks like I'm just going mage in tbc then

[junior plover]

yep thats a safe bet

[hoary ledge]

sad

[wise valley]

why

mage is aoe capped

go prot pally

or warlock

warlock and hunter are top 2 dps in tbc

[junior plover]

arena

who cares about pve

just tag along and get bis pvp gear

[wise valley]

none of u are good enough for slick mage moves in arena

i suggest hunters

[junior plover]

its 2007 mage moves tho

they have like 4 spells

i was considering rerolling rogue for tbc arena but then i realized i'd have to actually do pve as rogue too

[wise valley]

@stray sigil now im doubting my self

[junior plover]

so i'm gonna meme my way to 1800 or something

[twilit siren]

2600 is only 500k?

[tulip falcon]

tbc arena will be interesting now that people know to use keybinds

curious to see how it will be

[junior plover]

also no tbc macros

hunters on suicide watch

cant bind entire rotation to scroll wheel >: (

[stray sigil]

@wise valley about convoke?

[wise valley]

about my identity as a druid

i need some four loko

[surreal heron]

no one ever needs some four loko

[karmic locust]

Does anyone know a way to increase default plates debuff icons?

[wise valley]

@surreal heron why do u assault inner character integrity in my times of self doubt brother

I haven't smelled anything in 9 days

Maybe it will wake up my senses

[prisma yacht]

I am literally raiding SSC as hunter while reading this

I feel attacked

[junior plover]

[celest plume]

celestial guidance or sinful revelation?

[junior plover]

only me that poopoo in the pant?

god i hate the reddit naggers

doing nothing but nagging

[wise valley]

whoah

we dont say that in here

[tardy hare]

probably a boomy aswell

[wise valley]

its 2021 bro

[tardy hare]

xd

[junior plover]

fak i said the n word

[wise valley]

not very politically correct kiosk

[tardy hare]

$report

[last owl]

This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

[junior plover]

NotLikeThis

[wise valley]

its okay i will let that one pass

bro what the fuck am i doing

[junior plover]

[wise valley]

im not a boomy

it isnt who i am

[junior plover]

go kitty

its glorious

and beautiful

[tardy hare]

you'd have done better than Randy in south park's episode

[junior plover]

Yeah I remember that one now

[tardy hare]

[junior plover]

My healer was raiding and then he went to hit the gym I am STARVING here

for arena games

and hes doing degenerate content

in game and irl

I need to play game

[tardy hare]

just do arena urself

1v2

1v3

[tulip falcon]

skirmishes

lul

[junior plover]

Ive been doing skirmishes

but im going mad

but the thought of logging on my alt and grinding some gear

makes me shiver

need more healers in my life

[wise valley]

ima be a healer

uwu

[junior plover]

[upper drift]

Hey all, got a quick question regarding PvP gearing. I've got enough conquest for a staff but was wondering if I should spend it instead on 2 rings and boots/bracers

(resto druid btw)

Ok cool thanks, got plenty of honour saved for upgrades so can upgrade it all the way. Cheers

[clear pulsar]

Weapon is big stat budget

A lot of int

And stam

[forest kite]

Just get it out of your weekly chest lul

[stuck bloom]

hey best feral lego slot/stats?

[junior plover]

symm versa/mastery

pick your slot based on what youre missing

[stuck bloom]

tyvm friend

[blissful belfry]

only prob in takin wep with conq is its pricey. always nice to get it from week vault for maximizing conquest points. But its rng, if you go long with no conq wep in vault u can cry

[karmic locust]

Head vers/mas

Biggest agi gain.

[junior plover]

Dont hands have the same stats

if not mb

[karmic locust]

Nope

[junior plover]

ah ye

@stuck bloom HEEEAD

[wise valley]

@vestal citrus what r u sqautting raw these days

[brave shuttle]

Picked up my hpala after getting frustes on resto Druid. Good lord they need a nerf hahaha fuck me 20k crits no problem

[split bluff]

20k crits are no problem on rdru as well

[brave shuttle]

Ye with sotf and hardcasting

Anyway you get the point. The different is healing burst healing output in mind blowing, especially with gear difference

[spice sapphire]

what conduits do we guys want for resto?

[split bluff]

if you're hardcasting in a bad position as rdru you must be playing with some real mongos

which is the biggest problem atm except for shit mana

you need ppl that have 2 hands

[brave shuttle]

What gives you 20k crit without a hard cast as resto Druid?

[split bluff]

read what I wrote ty

[brave shuttle]

I did and it doesn’t answer my question

[split bluff]

mend ns takes care of pressure and if you still have to hardcast being open to cc then your teammates are tanking dmg with their face

[inland thorn]

Hello fellow druids! Are there any Boomy guides for pvp macros? : )

I'm not sure, I'm new to macros so I have nothing built yet.

Shifting forms like into bear form than back into balance, or using spells that take you out of balance (so a way to use said spell and go back into balance right away), to ccs?

[clear pulsar]

You know, the 1 min cd

Resto druid is totally fine

You can have like

This one insane heal

Every 1 min

It's in a great spot

If you're hardcasting you're bad ok? Just don't hardcast

Don't listen to Voeid, the other day he was arguing feral is this much more complex spec than other melee dps

[foggy drift]

fucking purge makes me want to cry

[clear pulsar]

Forms in the past weren't on global cd, now they are, there is no useful macro anymore for 'powershifting' as they called it in the past

[split bluff]

nowhere did I say he couldn't hardcast though :)

[inland thorn]

Awh, that sucks! Sometimes I don't even register I'm out of boomy form for using a spell that takes me out until a few mins later (so my damage is shit lol).

[clear pulsar]

Just don't bind damage spells in non-form bar then

[split bluff]

you just seem to take what is written and then twist it to fit your arguments

or just can't read for shit

dunno

[tulip falcon]

the only useful macro is /cancelform so you can still shift out on global

[clear pulsar]

The main actionbar changes depending on your form automatically

So just bind boomie form to those buttons if you're out of form

Idk

[inland thorn]

Okay, that makes sense

[foggy drift]

who tf came up with the idea that purge should not have any cd and only cost 1.6% base mana?

it's fucking ridiculous

[clear pulsar]

Focused growth should make lifebloom unpurgeable tbh

[foggy drift]

I think purge should either have cd or cost lots of mana

[clear pulsar]

And maybe a new pvp talent for 2 charges of NS

[foggy drift]

purge costs 1.6% base mana, rejuv costs 11% base mana

[clear pulsar]

Bro just stop

Rejuv doesnt cost 11% of your mana bar

Pls stop

I'm gonna punch your throat

[tulip falcon]

lol

[clear pulsar]

Yall repeat this shit all the time in here it's like you don't actually have a druid character

Rejuv does not cost 11% of your mana

[foggy drift]

11% base mana

means 11% of the 10k

[clear pulsar]

Purge is not 1.6% of 10k

So when you put those statements together as if the ratio was 1.6 to 11%

You're just wrong

It costs 800 mana, so 8% of dps specs mana bars, 1.6% of healers

[foggy drift]

priest purge is dispel magic, right?

wowhead says 1.6% base mana

[clear pulsar]

Pls shut up

Open your game

Look at mana cost

Holy cock and ball torture

It's cheaper than rejuv, but it's 8:11 ratio, not 1.6:11

VERY different

[tulip falcon]

i see it as free wins

what are they crying about

"im stuck at 1700 because of boosters"?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's the same in every game

[haughty compass]

I play between 2100 and 2300, aka the try hard

[foggy drift]

ok so dispel magic is 1.6% max mana and rejuv is 2.2%... wowhead numbers are bs then

it's still pretty dumb that you can press 1 button and completely remove a hot without cooldown

[tulip falcon]

dont ever look at wowhead tooltips just look in game

[clear pulsar]

I think it's fine, the mana ratio of purge to hots

But there should be more stuff on resto talents/pvp talents

TO deal with spam purge

I think OG costs too much mana

CW is great

[edgy shale]

y'all need to stop pissing f2f off. its bad for blood pressure

[foggy drift]

OG is also 1 min cd

[clear pulsar]

[foggy drift]

sorry if I was an idiot... this infuriates me... I can't even find the fucking option to disable the voice alert for purge in gsa

[split bluff]

delete that cancer addon and use your eyes

[foggy drift]

it helps a lot on things like poly and hex

[placid mirage]

Its kind of like listening to an audio book though

I also thought it was hilarious the ppl on Reddit who say they can't climb because they are 5 ilvl down when they get close to new bracket

[split bluff]

because most of them don't even want to play arena

[placid mirage]

I don't pvp a lot but coming from other pvp games this seems like the same whining that just gets recycled every new season/expansion whatever

[split bluff]

just uncle ion forced them to

:)

[junior plover]

The delusion on reddit about boosters is real

some claim 90% of games are boosters

can you even imagine that

[placid mirage]

No a lot of these ppl are on the pvp Reddit and talk about the good old days or whatever

[junior plover]

For every 2 random people queueing a 2

[tulip falcon]

mmo champ forums were worse than reddit

i cant look at that anymore

[serene flume]

hi

[junior plover]

theres 9 glad players boosting a rando

the boosting economy is literally worth like 500 million dollars

every booster earns 5k a dayu

based on how much they must be boosting

[split bluff]

what else do you expect from reddit

[placid mirage]

People prob thought I was boosting when I joined a lfg skirms group and then they queued rated at 1200cr

[junior plover]

I mean to be fair

if you are a 1400 scrub

and you face a glad booster and a 1200 boostee

you probably lose

but thats what

1% of games

if even

it literally doesnt matter

and if youre 2k rating

you win those 2v1.5s

[tulip falcon]

yea but the boosters arent going to be at 1400

unless they are failing at boosting

[junior plover]

Thats the thing

[placid mirage]

I mean I have played a bunch of arenas and almost no one is that good

[junior plover]

reddit claims they are 1400-1800

90% of the games

[haughty compass]

You’d be surprised people paying for 1600

[junior plover]

theres posts about it every day

[tulip falcon]

maybe they'll be at 1400-1600 for like

2 games

[junior plover]

Literally a comment i saw today

was that

boosters are dropping

1k rating

on purpose

to get easier games

when they boost

boosters drop 1k rating on their glad char

yeah and thats 2400+

not 1600

[tulip falcon]

its not like people stay at that mmr long enough for it to have an impact

[edgy shale]

I think I've run into boosters 1/100 games, at least obvious ones

[haughty compass]

I learn a lot when I face players clearly better than I am tbh

[junior plover]

I've ran into a 3x multi rank1 team

at 2.1k mmr

happens

that was 1 game out of my 70 game session

why would i care

[placid mirage]

Convoke go brrr

[junior plover]

yep

[tulip falcon]

i mean thats why they are shit in the first place
shit mentality and blame their failures on something external

[placid mirage]

I help my friends get 1600 and just convoke most games to win

And I'm not even good

Like people are terrible at positioning or brain power

[junior plover]

I was 2k in BFA last day of the last season so me being hardstuck 1400 cant be my fault

[edgy shale]

all of the above

[junior plover]

its thsoe ret paladins that are op

rerolls ret

BRO

90% OF THE GAMES

ARE BOOSTERS

IM TELLING YOU

[placid mirage]

I love the pallies that don't bind bubble

[tulip falcon]

playing ret is a boost in itself

[haughty compass]

lol

A couple of my friends are that way

[placid mirage]

Boomie is free rating at least to 1800

[haughty compass]

Everything in the game is broken, not their decision making

[tulip falcon]

bro ive never seen so much obsession over gear like there is this season

idk whats caused it

[placid mirage]

Pve ppl starved

[tulip falcon]

people think X versa is the key to everythin

[placid mirage]

Oh the vers thing

[edgy shale]

vers thing is nuts

[haughty compass]

Tbh when I look for daily rbg anima win, I filter the vers this out

[edgy shale]

i swear people want 200 ilvl 30% vers over 230 ilvl 20% vers

they are so stupid about it

its unreal

[tulip falcon]

no one used to be like "I've got 20% resilience" or "I've got 60% pvp power"

[edgy shale]

in 8.3 ppl cared more if u had woons than vers lol

u got 9 woons? ok we good

[tulip falcon]

idk why people care now though when it wasnt as obsessive before

[haughty compass]

I mean it’s true tbh

[junior plover]

It's the pve players flying in

they dont understand a thing

[haughty compass]

Most people can’t come to terms with their badness

[junior plover]

they just read in a starter pvp guide

get as much versa as possible

and then someone asked them for vers % in a rgb

[haughty compass]

Sub to skill capped still Lose what do

[placid mirage]

Learn to button

[edgy shale]

i just need sum1 to explain to them that ilvl means more than vers and being non-shit at the g ame matters more than them both

[placid mirage]

Some of my friends got blasted at 1900 by a couple of top 100 players on their alts who had like 28k hp

[forest kite]

Oh yeah, I was in that rbg last night with the glads. It was amazing

[junior plover]

To be fair I was watching snupy's team on alts

theyre like 2700 mains

and with 25-28k hp

they got hardstuck on 1800

[edgy shale]

how many games hardstuck?

[placid mirage]

Too many judgment high rolls

[junior plover]

Idk but many

like a full session

[edgy shale]

[lofty vale]

Anyone have any experience with bear in 2s, at 15cr and feel like den mother isnt good enough of a talent

[junior plover]

the hunter was just getting popped

game after game

[placid mirage]

Yeah I mean there's pretty easy burst rn that just stat checks you

To some extent

[junior plover]

ret main getting walled by op arms warriors

at 1800

literally IMPOSSIBLE to win

[edgy shale]

thats not real

something made that as a troll

my sanity can't handle it otherwise

[junior plover]

ive seen to many

^hardstuck 1700-1800

SEND GOD DAMNIT

stupid picture

[junior plover]

CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

[edgy shale]

i feel like there's not even enough warriors to be gate keeping him that hard if in this situation he's actually only osing to warriors lol

[junior plover]

Goes to be a crybaby about op Warriors

makes fun of people being crybabies about rets

the stupid pictures wont send

fuck you too discord

there we go

[tulip falcon]

discord dying

[junior plover]

The pure comedy of the subreddit is keeping me sane

and keeping me from being mad about spec balance

because i dont wanna be one of them

[edgy shale]

well when ur really bad at the game, even broken classes must be bad

[junior plover]

I'll just git gud thank you very much

[edgy shale]

"how am i losing? its not me...must be the class"

[placid mirage]

Idk I feel like unless u are mistweaver there's a lot of room to move up

[edgy shale]

I always think of this meme. except instead of being teammate fault its class fault

[junior plover]

Yeah if youre mistweaver

tough shit

i feel for them

you can still get 2400 as mw

but you could probably get 3k as hpal then

[edgy shale]

i do not. they've had their time in the sun. all classes should be viable, but whatever fuck em

[junior plover]

so why

[next lynx]

ugh its the worst when my teammate blames me for losses

[placid mirage]

I love when people are like "the pvp meta is so stale I am sick of playing against hpal, ww, arms, ret, fmage, sub rogue, boomies, disc, shadow priests"

They just list like half the specs in the game

[next lynx]

its def both of us, and theyre not able to consider what to improve because theyre offlanding fault

[junior plover]

No you dont get it

nerf 10 specs blizz

because theyre all OP

[placid mirage]

They only want to play vs their best matchup every game

Honestly the only class I hate playing vs is shaman

[next lynx]

dude you know what they actually did

[junior plover]

And you know the best thing

Affl warlock

is now complained about too

now that it is somewhat good

[next lynx]

i dont know if any of you played destro, but they got buffed super hard

[junior plover]

it's op

Destro is cool

[next lynx]

the first week weeks warlock was borderline unplayable

[junior plover]

I think it's good

idk

[edgy shale]

destro good? idk

[next lynx]

anything besides shadowplay is just terrible

[junior plover]

Immolate does as much as UA

so it must be good

[next lynx]

destro can pump now

[safe heart]

ill take an L from any class and move on but losing to paladin or seed rez is the only one that triggers me into the 4th dimension

[junior plover]

maybe not as good as affl

[next lynx]

two chaos bolts is enough

[junior plover]

but its deeecent

[edgy shale]

aff is already like only 2% of 2400+ so destro is prob like 0.1% lol

not that rep means everything

[junior plover]

Affl is seeing a huge surge in popularity now

[next lynx]

sorry I didnt mean its good

its just playable

[junior plover]

post AWC 2

[next lynx]

afflic is good in shadowplay though

[junior plover]

a lot of affl at high ladder popping up

[next lynx]

you leave warlock alone and you melt

[junior plover]

shadowplay, ele affl

even warrior affl

[potent void]

all these ppl bitch about their dps class being underpowered in pvp... im like im trying to play guardian over here cmon

[junior plover]

[safe heart]

mortal strike + diamond forming pressure from lock dots

[next lynx]

guardian is probably better than warlock was

[edgy shale]

destro lost their snare tho right?

how does anyone play without that snare

[forest kite]

Hey what leggy do u use in Arena and rbg? All the things?

[next lynx]

fear spam, double coil, shadowfury

destro has options

[placid mirage]

Who needs snare when u have two 25k bolts

[edgy shale]

2 are hard cast and 1 its prob smart to save for the heal idk

well epending

[next lynx]

you just gotta live long enough to cast some chaos bolts, and warlocks have 3 mobilities and two stuns

3 stuns sorry

[junior plover]

Biggest loss for destro

is the affl slow leggo

tbh

[jovial comet]

In 2v2 without healer. What do you guys do when you are out of defensive cds? Do you just los and try to heal yourself?

[next lynx]

hide

[edgy shale]

wawt leggo does destro run in pvp? the triple incinerate?

err

the instacast

[junior plover]

No clue

[edgy shale]

conflagrate?

[next lynx]

destro runs conflagrate legendary

[safe heart]

on the note earlier about ppl bitching about gear, i think alot of ppl at lower rating are equating gear level == skill
and then tehy get one shot and figure its because they dont have as much hp as the other guy

[next lynx]

for two conflagrate

[junior plover]

So

[safe heart]

i get scared when i see 39k hp rogues tho no doubt

[junior plover]

someone did the math

and with how much stam we get on gear

we will get 1.3x more hp

than damage

or something like that

[next lynx]

the more geared warlocks have hp in the 40ks

[junior plover]

so season 2

[next lynx]

ive seen a 45k warlock

[junior plover]

meta should be back to like

half dampen

season 3

full dampen engaged

[next lynx]

so youre saying late caster meta again

c:

[junior plover]

destro will slap

[edgy shale]

is that not wat always happens

[next lynx]

destro already slaps

[junior plover]

[next lynx]

as long as it doesnt get slapped first

which is often

[edgy shale]

wats the cast time on chaos bolt

these days

[next lynx]

if you hit a full setup

[junior plover]

Like 1.5

[edgy shale]

with like the amount of haste u should have

[next lynx]

a little over a second

[junior plover]

2 chaos bolts is like

20-25k average probably

under 3s cast time

[next lynx]

thats my secret to killing mages

[junior plover]

can go every 30s

its really not bad

[clear pulsar]

Destro is like a ranged feral

[edgy shale]

30 seconds?

[junior plover]

yes

[clear pulsar]

With FF

[junior plover]

thats exactly how i feel

[edgy shale]

wats 30 seconds

isn't coil 45

[junior plover]

might be

[edgy shale]

is there a conduit

[junior plover]

i dont actually know

[next lynx]

i dont think theres a coil conduit

warlocks run combusting and ashes

[edgy shale]

wats that

[next lynx]

O.O

uhh

it makes their spells go boom

[edgy shale]

[forest kite]

Hey what leggy do u use in Arena and rbg? All the things?

[edgy shale]

all da things!

[clear pulsar]

Timeworn

[next lynx]

which class are we talking about

[junior plover]

I was watching some warlock player

[next lynx]

im very behind

[junior plover]

dont remember

[edgy shale]

prob druid cuz we in the druid channel still lol

[junior plover]

but he was memeing with destro affl in like 2.4k

his destro's immolate

was doing as much

as UA

from affliction

per game

[next lynx]

uhh

I think I watched that video

its probably chanimal

[junior plover]

Mightve been

[edgy shale]

destro ST is still in the gutter tho, no?

moved to pve

[junior plover]

Not with chaos bolt

[next lynx]

affli isnt about UA anyway, that spell is just a dot protector

[clear pulsar]

Destro has some synergy that's like this
One conduit makes bolt deal more damage to target affected by immolate
One conduit makes conflag buff up your existing immolate on the target
One talent makes your bolt consume the immolate to deal the remaining dot damage along with bolt

[junior plover]

Well true

[clear pulsar]

So one chaos bolt can be pretty humongous

[junior plover]

[edgy shale]

ya i think u lose haste if u go that talent tho

[junior plover]

I wanna roll the ranged feral now

[edgy shale]

u lose the 15% haste proc

[junior plover]

procs

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but only proc

[junior plover]

[edgy shale]

but wouldn't surprise me if ppl ran that anyway

[next lynx]

that prot is part of the speedy chaos setup

proc

[real granite]

How is Burrs for battlegrounds? (boomy)

[junior plover]

burrs sucks ass

[clear pulsar]

Just play dreamweaver and get big haste when you pop soul rot @edgy shale

[junior plover]

cant believe everyone got jebaited

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

Burrs is better than the other boomie potencies

To be fair

[junior plover]

Did u see

how slow

it goes

and how visible it is

[next lynx]

they kick it and they catch a chaos bolt

[edgy shale]

no i still need 500 more anima

[junior plover]

you can walk out of it flying towards you

probably while slowed dtoo

[edgy shale]

1 thing destro will always have over aff is all the diff spell schools

[junior plover]

and then when on the ground

[edgy shale]

playing 1 school is so feels bad

[junior plover]

its fucking MASSIVE

shining blue light

all over the place

no one will step in that

[clear pulsar]

You ever play ele bro?

Ele is so much fun

[next lynx]

i do play ele

[clear pulsar]

Just spamming spells dont care for kicks at allll

[next lynx]

ele is literally a machine gun

[edgy shale]

they have 1 hardcast, whatever lol i mean wizards that have to cast

[clear pulsar]

I think rn you dont play icefury anymore but

When icefury was bis

GOATed caster

[next lynx]

ya gotta cast stormkeeper and lava burst though

[edgy shale]

I've baited so many mongos who kick fear or shadowfury or something and i just throw CBs into their face

0 fucks

[next lynx]

and if you hit a lava burst proc after stormkeeper, theres a gap in the instants

destro is about casting threatening spells but if you kick them, you get a nuke to the face

[clear pulsar]

It's like feral

You uuuh scratch people very menacingly

[next lynx]

i dont really know how feral works lol

[edgy shale]

i just find it funny there's fire, shadow, then fire shadow, then also chaos like tf is the point of fire shadow

[next lynx]

pls explain

[clear pulsar]

Then you bite them big in the face

[next lynx]

cronch

[clear pulsar]

Do people actually play shadowburn tho?

[next lynx]

it was meta first few weeks

[junior plover]

Hey guys i have a proposal

[edgy shale]

cataclysm is also fire sahdwo

[next lynx]

because it was impossible to get casts off

[junior plover]

give feral 2x faster energy gains

thanks

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's just nice like

[next lynx]

i wouldnt play shadowburn now probably

[clear pulsar]

The point is damage school rather than cast school

For cata not being chaos I mean

But still in terms of cast it's nice yeah!?

[edgy shale]

ya u can still cast chaos bolts its just funny

[clear pulsar]

Like idk you're trying to put immos up

Then ge tkicked on fire

Can still cata

Then if that gets kicked

[next lynx]

i just hate rogues flying in a tight circle inside me making it really hard to guess where they are at end of cast

[clear pulsar]

You ate 2 kicks and can still CB

[edgy shale]

thats facts

u need to be smart with ur casts like that on destro

[next lynx]

and they paralysis, leg sweep fists

and the warlock is dead

[edgy shale]

at least u have the teleprot now

wasn't it on same row as mortal coil

[next lynx]

dont remember

but its baseline which is cool

[edgy shale]

well i know u literally never took it as destro

yeah

[junior plover]

I've infiltrated the warrior discord

for meme content

[next lynx]

oh man

[junior plover]

[next lynx]

they still dont know how convoke works LOL

[junior plover]

man they still complainin about a B tier spec using it's 2nd best covenant

WeirdChamp

[next lynx]

the convoke can one shot sometimes, but its usually just a mastery buff for the two instant star surges theyre about to eat

anyway the warlock counter is just to know how their portal/gateway combo works

[junior plover]

Altho my favorite thing lately must be

xaryu boosting a viewer

and a balance druid

beating him 1v2

and xaryu MALDING

"NERF MAGES NERF MAGES"

[next lynx]

lul

balance druid go pew pew

[placid mirage]

I killed a warrior while convoking as he heroic leaped to me

Poor dude

[junior plover]

I killed one in intervene

[next lynx]

i feel nothing for warriors

[junior plover]

as i was convoking his healer

[next lynx]

mostly because they always train me

[edgy shale]

killing a warrior in intervene, don't lie

we all know they can't die during that

[placid mirage]

A lot of people die to poor decision making...like instead of leaping to me why not leap out of los

[junior plover]

yeah maybe if they had half a brain

to press a button

that parries 100% of my damage

as they intervene

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

[placid mirage]

Can't parry nature's will

[next lynx]

why would they be required to use a defensive cooldown for your very strong offensive cooldown?

[junior plover]

Well true they usually dont even need to do that

[placid mirage]

Warrior go spinny

[junior plover]

so hes probably used to it

[next lynx]

they need that for next game

cant use it this game

[junior plover]

saving their trinket for blizzcon

cant blame em

[placid mirage]

Dude wars soak so much dmg it's crazy

[junior plover]

i actually like the warrior nerf a lot

a lot a lot

its so good

but they just had to ruin it

with the 3% buff

they couldnt help themselves

[edgy shale]

warriors kinda ass in pve in all fairness, but I don't get why they couldn't just directly being them down in pvp only

[junior plover]

No the pve changes

great

but they specifically knew enough about the problem

to do a good targetted nerf

[edgy shale]

the damage is ass, the ulity is insane which sucks for warriors cuza they turn into shout / cry bots

[junior plover]

at the problem class

[next lynx]

dude i dont know about you guys

[junior plover]

and still didnt remove 3% from their pvp damage

ehh

[next lynx]

but I had a warrior in my raid that was parsing 99% basically off of condemn

I think condemn was more than half his damage

[placid mirage]

Smakk

[next lynx]

i gotta say... being a one button nuker in raid...

it feels kinda good LOL

[edgy shale]

well thats kinda wat feral is

right now

[junior plover]

nahh

[next lynx]

scratches and bleeds to set up a big cronch?

[junior plover]

as feral you have snapshot bleeds

and stuff

[next lynx]

someone please explain how feral works

im so lost

[edgy shale]

yeah of course, i raid as feral, but even with draught and always snap shotting, bite is still like 60% of my damage lol

[junior plover]

in pve

keep bleeds up

big bite at >50 energy 5cp

[next lynx]

yea I do that as resto

[junior plover]

if u get a bleed put on during tiger's fury

bonus points

convoke off cooldown

[next lynx]

i mean thats also how I get my kills as resto in arena

[junior plover]

also stealth/berserk rake

bonus points as well

[placid mirage]

Too much work, boomie is just starfire and wrath

[next lynx]

except taht tigers fury adn berserk

resto druid damage is full dots, and for burst 50 energy 5 pt convoke

for feral affinity at least

[junior plover]

Also if you run the trash talent known as bt

[next lynx]

i even take heart

[junior plover]

u gotta fucking pool energy so that you can use 3 builders at once

its disgusting

[next lynx]

3 builders sounds like too many

[edgy shale]

not as disgusting as owlweaving