pvp

[chrome panther]

Considering how bad it performs in mythic raid youd THINK blizzard would give a shit

but nah

[junior plover]

they cant have any strengths i guess

[chrome panther]

enjoy world of hpalcraft

[junior plover]

any strength they have we gotta balance out

[stone nest]

I mean one more swiftmend charge and everything evens out a bit

[chrome panther]

extra swiftmend charge, old ironbark pvp talent back, reduce mana costs across the board, lifebloom dispel protection gigabuffed

just for starters

[stone nest]

Any decent healing pvp talent would be nice

Really any effective pvp talent

Like yay my lifebloom does hardly anything else. Then what else? All of its garbage. Insta wild growth is dope in rbgs but that’s it

[queen holly]

u get efflo removing snares wdym

[edgy shale]

mobile healers are so anoying when they're good. I hate hpal but at least they kinda just stand there

[stone nest]

Pally war is so damn annoying. You have to work through 15cds before you can get a kill

[queen holly]

wondering if i should boost a pal or a sham

[stone nest]

They need to make germination a pvp talent

[chrome panther]

yeah healers that just stand there, don't die, never have to hardcast, are SO much better

[stone nest]

Or whatever the double rejuv is idk

[queen holly]

shams seem fun his patch at least

[novel wind]

just play master shapeshifter and kill people lol

[stone nest]

Yay my extra bleed

[chrome panther]

half the problem is our healing is just weak

[stone nest]

So much more damage

[chrome panther]

you literally do not have enough GCDs to keep up

[novel wind]

i play CLD and just kill anyone that' too low ilevel

[stone nest]

If bleeds were relevant it would be nice but it also only buffs the bleed when you are in cat form

[chrome panther]

you have to rejuv bloom regrowth before your healing even makes a dent

[novel wind]

i dunno i don't have trouble matching healing in RBGs at least

[chrome panther]

RBGs dont count for anything

its a meme bracket of tryhards and drunks

[stone nest]

Well we are way better at aoe than single target healing

[novel wind]

that's every bracket below 2100 3s

[chrome panther]

and its every group past 2400 in rbgs

[stone nest]

Every time they tell me hey you heal the fc I’m like there’s a reason we suck ass in 3s. Don’t have me single target healing.

[novel wind]

group healing is ezmode when you can just jump around and sotf WG

[clear pulsar]

Bro are you all fucken stupid

You can open the fucking game

[chrome panther]

50% tryhard nerd teams and 50% take a shot every death teams

[clear pulsar]

And check the fucking mana cost

Rejuv doesn't cost 11% of your mana bar as resto druid

[chrome panther]

comparing base mana costs

u 5head

purge is cheaper than rejuv

[clear pulsar]

It costs 11% of 10k.

[chrome panther]

THATS THE JOKE

[clear pulsar]

It was that way in bfa too

Rdru was fine

[chrome panther]

we had

60% haste in bfa

at the end

m8

[clear pulsar]

Nah it's just nerfs/design shifts

To make rdru have to spam more heals and have less dmg uptime in m+

[chrome panther]

its absurd nerfs

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's dumb

[chrome panther]

we could have a 20% aura buff tommorow and hpal would still be king

[clear pulsar]

There needs to be a 2 charges NS pvp talent or something

[novel wind]

i don't see how hpal doesn't get a nerf

[edgy shale]

but do u really wanna go to a time where MW teleports away whenever u get a go?

[novel wind]

like 80% of AWC teams were HPal and other 20 were shaman

[edgy shale]

its pepega

[chrome panther]

sure

better than state of hpal

[edgy shale]

you'd take 8.3 mw over current hpal?

idk i guess cuz just i personally hate hpal, but mw was so so so so annoying and dumb

[chrome panther]

probably

[novel wind]

more like 7.1 mw lol

[chrome panther]

i have ptsd from bfa so i forget how bad some things were

[novel wind]

i refused to pvp in bfa when they just blanket nerfed sub rogue by like 20%

and i just couldn't do stuff anymore

[supple haven]

For flag sitting do you bears wear Medallion or Brooch?

[thorny venture]

which ever one is duration decrease I think

[supple haven]

If I get blinded am I just sad?

[surreal loom]

You dont trinket sap; you only trinket blinds

sooo

You can also swap medallion out once its on cooldown

The strat is medallion first blind -> swap to cc reduction

[brisk sorrel]

guys trying to climb in rbg, whats better for boomie for burst, timeworn or boat? am kyrian.

[placid mirage]

What cr are you

I would say dreambinder prob gets better the higher you go

At lower cr some people just explode to boat

Also I think kyrian works better with the playstyle of dreambinder

[haughty compass]

Preference tbh.

[brisk sorrel]

1900

ya im feeling the tankiness of targets now, getting focused heal better. checked 3s ladder, people running timeworn. but top 2 rbg boomie still running boat so was trying to get some info.

[trim moth]

Yeah 3s seems to be more popular with kyrian hence the timeworn binder. But RBG's seem to be more NF hence the BOAT. both work for either cov.

[brisk sorrel]

top 2 rbg boomies are kyrians with boats

[trim moth]

BOAT may be a better pick in RBG's and Timeworn may be a better pick for 3v3 setups

I would craft both and try them out, see which fits your play style better

[brisk sorrel]

i can see eclipse is harder to maintain in arena but was wondering if timeworn is straight up better for 100-0 kill

ya kinda short on ash, started late, crafted all 3 spec.

[late stirrup]

would you go for more mastery or haste in RBG's as Night fae ?

boomie*

[green valve]

Boats good when you get used to it

Timeworns one of those you just equip and carry on normal playstyle

[thorny venture]

think it's valid to report someone for cheating when they purposefully throw Ashran

[chrome panther]

alot of rbg boomies are just pve nerds doing it for gear

[slim crater]

@late stirrup you don't really have a choice anyway

Not much mastery on PvP gear

I personally took most mastery options over haste if there was a choice

[junior plover]

wdym

I have like 1 haste piece

from pvp

and a gazillion mastery pieces

[magic rampart]

boomkin rbgs alacrity (haste) or ferocity (crit) trinket better?

[silk patio]

for feral pvp, what weapon enchant do i use?

[stray sigil]

sinful

[stone nest]

With every passing day I’m leaning towards learning boomie and ditch resto.

[edgy shale]

wait ur tunneling ass uses sinful?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I put sinful on mine too

[edgy shale]

tunnelers...

[clear pulsar]

I mean might as well bro

5% buff sometimes ok

10% buff sometimes okayer

[edgy shale]

oh yea i called it

i guess a lot of ppl did

fdk got nerfed for pvp

[clear pulsar]

10% nerf to chill streak is so small tbh

But at least it's something

[edgy shale]

what do u think of the war change?

[clear pulsar]

Rally nerf way bigger

[edgy shale]

yeah

thats nice

[clear pulsar]

Actually POGGED OUT LOUD MAN

Rally is such a toxic defensive rn

On 1 min cd

[edgy shale]

very toxic

warriors are actually gonna do more dmg tho

thats not fun

3% is diddly compared to nerf but they hurt

[clear pulsar]

Yeah they do

But now we hurt them a bit more

[tiny oar]

Interesting

[clear pulsar]

Often

[edgy shale]

who came up w./ the idea for condemn?

[tiny oar]

Yea I wanna send them a strongly worded letter

[clear pulsar]

Execute dash should have an icd or something

It's so tox

With condemn

[potent comet]

The arms rally talent is just that a talent. It's been said in PvP guides that's it's mandatory... At 2min vs 1min it will still be strong. But I'm a warrior and I don't see many using it in 2s or 3s... Doubt you'll be able to beat a skilled one still 😏

[clear pulsar]

No such thing bud

[edgy shale]

skilled warrior

[clear pulsar]

Everyone runs that

[edgy shale]

[potent comet]

Didn't know you played with many warriors

[clear pulsar]

You can tell that enemy is using a 3 min cd every 1 min yes?

I also have a warrior tho cba playing that

It's obviously not an every game thing, especially in 2s

But it's a very good talent and very toxic when enemy suddenly gains 70% more hp every 1 min

[edgy shale]

ya clearly it was too strong considered how hard they nerfed it

[potent comet]

I agree it should have never been 1/3 of it's normal CD with just a talent

[stray sigil]

finally 24hundo rbgs

can never play this dog shit ass gamemode ever agane

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

played vs double holy priest disc at 2.8 mmr

that shit was beyond unfun

[clear pulsar]

Why's that buddy

You having a hard time ccing?

Just hit the GS with the fat Sharpen Blade

[edgy shale]

idiot not ccing...

bro its wild how true that is

25 seconds have paseed, time for a storm bolt

[tiny oar]

Ur purgers dont no how to dispell magic uwu??

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar i have a team of zugzugers

2 war 1 feral 1 surv 1 rogue 1 ww 1 ret 3 disc

insane comp for sure

no doubt

[edgy shale]

lmao what

u run all melee?

thats so pepega

[tiny oar]

Yea sounds nice hahaha

[edgy shale]

you are really not joking about zugzuggers

that team literally just runs at you

pve

[stray sigil]

usually we have 2 ferals instead of 2 warriors

[autumn delta]

hi guys, just starting into pvp.. which covenant do you suggest? ty 🙂

[stray sigil]

what spec are u

[autumn delta]

feral sorry lol

[stray sigil]

kyrian

[edgy shale]

if u do any kind of pve u prob want NF, but if u wannt pvp only kyrian is pog

[plain heart]

boyz tell me something, it is related to races. I'm mostly an ally player and I really love worgens. I'm going for rdruid this season and when I see the statistcs (often in lootdistrict) I see there are so few worgen players on 1800+ rating. What I want to know is if is that bad not having shadowmeld on my druid or if ppl just dont like worgen at all and the racial wont have that much impact

[queen copper]

Meld is a strong racial but won’t be the reason you break 1800

[plain heart]

understood. I think I'll go with the race I like the most then

[autumn delta]

ty good sir

[torn prairie]

Hey 🙂 Anyone know, if there's a guide to Balance for pvp? WoWhead doesn't have one for some reason

[autumn delta]

ty aswell dude 🙂

[abstract falcon]

played hpal and rdruid both around 200 ilvl, what do you do as rdruid if a team member is facetanking combustion/convoke/divine toll etc?

hpal ez

[granite comet]

Any in depth guard Druid RBG guides?

[clear pulsar]

Yell at them very loudly

[haughty compass]

Anyone play with circle on resto?

[turbid jolt]

feral niya doing burrs tomrorwo?

[storm granite]

how to find ppl to pvp with? using dungeon finder to find RBG once in 40 min is no bueno

[torn prairie]

What's the BiS Legendary for Balance in PvP? (2s and 3s)

[stable otter]

boat

[stable otter]

finder is good

whats your vers

or cr

if you link stuff you should have an easier time

[torn prairie]

Just dinged 60 today lol

@stable otter you know a website, where i can check a guide out? wowhead doesnt have one for some reason

[stable otter]

for what

legendaries?

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/balance-druid-pvp-guide is a good all rounder guide

[torn prairie]

nah, balance in general. Recommended talents and all that

[stable otter]

https://www.wowhead.com/balance-druid-guide

[torn prairie]

yeye, i saw that just after i pressed enter 😄

[stable otter]

haha

[torn prairie]

thank you

[stable otter]

np

icy veins trippin with legendary choices tho

just get balance of all things

[torn prairie]

yeye

but 100% boat right?

[stable otter]

yes

[chrome panther]

Binder or boat.

[stable otter]

im a boat simp so

[torn prairie]

😄

[chrome panther]

Binder is better imo

Especially if kyrian

[stable otter]

yeah

i would go binder kyrian

but boat nf

[torn prairie]

thanks for the help 🙂

[strong otter]

Anyone else thinks its pretty fucking sad that frost mage loses to a ret in 1v1?

Literally not even kiteable anymore

[storm granite]

i don't have problems to be accepted, i have problem to find people

[stable otter]

what cr are you?

[storm granite]

1200

[abstract falcon]

rEt hAs nO mObiLitY

[stable otter]

vers? ilvl?

i would just look up “yolo”

it’s easier once you hit like 1500

[mystic sigil]

the pump is real

[edgy shale]

what is ur damage breakdown abilitywise?

oh thats epic bg nevermind

[abstract falcon]

1. find a ret paladin

2. create this macro
   #showtooltip Celestial Alignment
   /use Berserking
   /use Celestial Alignment
   /use Sinful Aspirant's Badge of Ferocity
   /use Convoke the Spirits

3. tell the ret to bubble

4. tell the ret to press wings

5. tell the ret to press divine toll

6. collect 1600

[storm granite]

for me it's about 40 min to find group, 1 game, lose +-15 rating. i just want to reduce these 40 min, but idk where to find people. is there pvp discord or something?

[primal bane]

do not press bubble for no reason

but yeah just raw bursting with ret/boomie is a tactic until 2k

[elder flower]

any pointers for feral tryin to pick it up for arenas?

[surreal loom]

Hit big bites

dont hit small bites

[elder flower]

alright lol

[storm granite]

im quite new to wow can somebody explain me this?

[hardy cargo]

Blizzards balancing system

[lime light]

u are all freshies, so your starting mmr is 1500

when u are 0 cr

if u win it sky rockets

till u lose

[edgy shale]

tian plz help

eyors

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-starwars-bless-you-god-bless-you-420-gif-14482309

[storm granite]

em i still don't get it? is there 'hidden mmr' or something? how can our team be 1600+ if ALL of us are below 1500 but 1 guy

[lime light]

as i said

u just made new character

and your rating is 0

but at the same time your MMR

1500

if u win a game or few in a row, it sky rockets

around 100-200 MMR

per win early on

like games till 1500 RATING (CR-current rating)

are placements

some ppl are also stuck in it forever cuz they suck big donki

TLDR dont worry about mmr, the ppl u face suck anyway, they just played more games

[storm granite]

yeah well apparently if your team is 700 avg and their team is 1700 avg CR you lose 1500-300

but 'mmr' is close :/ ok nice system

ty for explaining

so this is why evebody buys/sells boosts...

[edgy shale]

waut wat

[stable otter]

mmr is hidden

cr is what you see

it doesnt matter that your team's cr is 700 average cause your mmr is probably close to 1500

i mean yeah that game is a little fucked but still

[edgy shale]

lmao do u see the url forf this?

[lime light]

url?

[stray sigil]

hello mr tian

[lime light]

Hello Mister FEJI

[stray sigil]

have u tried bt curio

[lime light]

nah, havent played for a while

but i wanna try

cuz i hate ff

[exotic wolf]

have you guys seen the hotfixes from yesterday??

[stray sigil]

same

[lime light]

the only hotfix i can see is

[exotic wolf]

I knew about warrior getting 5% dmg buff but I expected some pvp nerfs. Now they get rally nerfed lol?

[lime light]

making enh and arms

[wraith depot]

What is the difference between convoke as a Balance Druid and Resto Druid?

[lime light]

viable

[stray sigil]

rally was def op

good change

[wraith depot]

I’m trying to see as a Resto - if convoke will melt enemies

[exotic wolf]

12 cast on resto, 16 cast on boomy

[lime light]

nerf intervene

should be top prio

and nerf every pala spec

[tough nova]

As a boomy should I do two-handed conquest staff or one hand and offhand?

[lime light]

and mc bug

[exotic wolf]

this goddamnit

[wraith depot]

Why do they need to need intervene

How do you typically use it in pvp.

Is intervene an important spell?

[edgy shale]

wait tian

did u not ssee the change yet?

also i mean the gif url is this: yoda-starwars-bless-you-god-bless-you-420-gif-14482309

[tough nova]

!mh

[lime light]

i seen the rally cry nerf

but at my ghetto rating that iam in rn

not a single warrior knows

about that talent

the only talent they can see is damgur

[edgy shale]

lol

[lime light]

and randomly place banner

[edgy shale]

ur high rating tf r u saying

tian so humble manm

humbles me to see sum1 with his skill so humble

[lime light]

ye we play at like2.2k mmr, the war ret teams

on that backpedle

like athene

but smh they can press intervene on cd

[edgy shale]

warriors press every button on CD. they play whack a mole

thats why this nerf is good, cuz less buttons lighting up for them to press

[lime light]

ye but every button gonna be 3 or 5% w/e

stronger

[wraith depot]

For Resto Druids - how often do you use intervene and in which situations mostly

For some reason - I rarely use it

[lime light]

use it early on

[stray sigil]

big ruski only 2,2?

[lime light]

when there is opener damgur

[stray sigil]

u are slacking

[lime light]

i have like 100 games maybe

we q few and one guy has to raid soon

other to study

cuz finals

[stray sigil]

raid

[lime light]

idk

raiding in 2k21

[wraith depot]

Any good places to find Druid Resto pvp macros

[stray sigil]

pve

[edgy shale]

a disc priest in my raid today said he thought it was impossible to get ksm on a priest

i wanted to just leave the raid

[weak hinge]

Lul ksm is +15. Hard stuff.

[lime light]

what is ksm

[edgy shale]

im raiding with people who think ksm is hard...

unreal

keystone master +15 timed on every dungeon

[lime light]

aha

i got it from last ssn randomly

[weak hinge]

BTW did they really not nerf warrior dmg for pvp?

Funny

[lime light]

apparently not

[edgy shale]

its ok, they hit fdks lol

[stray sigil]

warrior is unplayable

[weak hinge]

Prepare being torn apart in 2s my bois

[lime light]

fdk st

might be

[weak hinge]

Venthyr warrior goes whack

[lime light]

pretty high rn

they st is good already

[edgy shale]

yeah, this is kinda just makes warrior hpal fucking unstoppable in 2s huh

[amber compass]

just kite

[lime light]

the biggest issue is

invervene

and hpal

i mean any pal spec

[weak hinge]

Nah. Warrior shaman is better than hpal

[lime light]

fuck the warriors damgur

drunk

after pet stun trap fear, its harder to recover

for a rsham

way harder

like dance/link

and hpal just raise his hand

and everyone is full

no cds

[edgy shale]

yea idk, maybe the comp makes more sense in theory but pretty sure hpal is too overtuned for any other heale to be better in most comps

[weak hinge]

Im Talking 2s

[lime light]

who cares about 2s

never balanced

and never will be

[edgy shale]

we were just talkin' bout 2s cuz this just straight up buffed warms in 2s

[weak hinge]

Hurrdurr. No reason not to talk about it

[amber compass]

ret arms dudu

sperg cleave

[lime light]

i dont think so the 3% buff will make any difference honestly

but its a good reason to complain

about pvp devs

having no idea

what they are doing

[edgy shale]

wtf tian why r u betraying me 3% is more damgur u said it like 5 min ago

[lime light]

no

its not big damgur anymore

i changed my mind

[edgy shale]

shit changed?

dam

[lime light]

😠

useless change

they should buff

by 10%

at least

[exotic wolf]

[stray sigil]

buff ferals

[exotic wolf]

if rdruid is back i'll make them pay

all of em

[stray sigil]

20k bites too small

i want 30ks

[lime light]

feral kinda sleeper this snn

so braindead

[stray sigil]

buff ferals NOW

[exotic wolf]

all of em will pay

warriors, windwalkers.. i will not let them play the game

[stray sigil]

eh i think feral is like fine

u do no dmg outside of bite

but

buff ferals

[edgy shale]

if u played draught like a chad you'd have yuge rake/rip nubmbers

[lime light]

ye but u cant multi bleed

[edgy shale]

yeah

i play it in 2s

it feels bad in 3s

i think its also trolling in 2s, but its ok

[amber compass]

draught is for resto dudus on 2s only

i dont think is playable anywhere else

[edgy shale]

bro, its the only way to get ur bleeds higher than bite

the only way

[amber compass]

dont play feral then

xd

[edgy shale]

bite is actually still the highest by far

normally

but im NF anyway

I dont think classes actually exist that do their damage thru dots. like even aff locks have "burst dots"

[crude minnow]

idk how anyone playus boomie in 2s. the most boring shit ever

no slows. either trained or kited. bargf

[eternal wyvern]

I haven't done pvp in like 8 weeks but I heard (from a not particularly reliable source) that convoke targetting was changed and some of the old dumb shit like not targetting root or targetting cyclone was changed, anyone got an updated list of what it will/won't hit?

[last basin]

it wont hit cyclone and cc's that break with damage

[edgy shale]

i feel like they keep changing it back n forth. but last time i played boomy it did not target rooted targets

very cringe to root beam sum1, convoke, and watch u heal urself

[last basin]

well u do that to kill the other target

heh

[edgy shale]

[last basin]

exploooosion

[lime light]

convokers deserve

to heal themself

[primal bane]

someone is fucking with me

6th wintergrasp epic BGs in a row

[lime light]

blessing

🙏🏿

[chrome panther]

hop in a cannon and afk

can't be afk kicked if your in a vehicle 🙂

[lime light]

$report

[last owl]

This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

[forest kite]

Play in open space, and just pve. Secure convoc every 3 min with aura mastery/bop if with hpal, or burst root beam every 1 min if kyrian, wait dampening. Enough to get 2k1 at least xD

[copper lintel]

why isnt flash of clarity popular for feral?

[lime light]

we dont have clearcasting rw

[copper lintel]

oh, i dont play feral i thought the regrowth stuff was called clearcasting

[crude minnow]

@forest kite convoke with a disc priest. just boring snooze fest. Im just doing it for kicks

if I was kyrian I woulda had so many kills on my 1m goes

[tepid spoke]

so be kyrian

[sinful canyon]

how is night fae on resto?

[amber compass]

pretty good in 2s and rbgs, pretty bad in 3s

[exotic wolf]

great in 2s, great in rbgs. you can swap to boomy too if you like to play some bommy rbg/arena.

necrolord ultimate form

is it kickable?

it reads you are immune to crowd control, so it should be kickable right?

[sinful canyon]

F

i play feral and am nf

was thinking about playing some resto

[hidden owl]

I see most resto druid running Verdant infusion. is it that much better that the dark titan?

[queen holly]

yes, you're not usually pve healing your tank

also dark titan has to be played with photo, which isn't usually optimal

now, can someone recommend a keybind for soulshape

[hidden owl]

i see..also. is gloves a better option to do since the pvp ones have mastery on them and not haste?

[queen holly]

I crafted on shoulders because I got 226 gloves from vault

[hidden owl]

btw i have movement stuff on shift + number. soulshape being shift+2, dash shift+3 and like that

[queen holly]

stat budget is the same so it's personal preference

[opaque parrot]

To the higher Boomkins who also plays 2s - Which talent are you running in the 45 row? Stellar Drift and Twin Moons seem kind of.. obsolete to me but having another spell to hard cast in Stellar Flare also seems bad to me. :D Any ideas?

[tepid spoke]

Tm

[opaque parrot]

Yeah I was thinking that as well but.. 90% of the time the two enemies aren't close enough together for Twin Moons to work. Either that or one of them is hiding behind a pillar so that, even though I can moonfire one of them, Twin Moons doesn't work.

[tepid spoke]

Tm also buffs mf dam by 10%

And you dont starfall in pvp

And stfl is dead cause you dont wanna get locked in astral and it also tickles

So only option is tm

[edgy shale]

Lol tf nonsense is asking for a keybind recommendation. does everyone not do their own random bull shit keybinds

[tepid spoke]

Pretty dead row tbh

[opaque parrot]

Okay, so the row doesn't really matter but TM is just a passive 10% dmg increase which is.. the best of 3 bad options?

[tepid spoke]

Yes

[opaque parrot]

K thank you. :)

[queen holly]

are you lefthanded? how do you even reach ctrl-7 with one hand

maybe i should buy a mmo mouse

fucking playing dh you need 6 keybinds

playing druid you need 60

[tardy hare]

soulshape is shift + 0

smh

[edgy shale]

facts, druid is so many keybinds

[amber compass]

im lefthanded so i cant afford a mouse with keybinds

but i can afford pressing buttons like ctrl-7 and shift-7

[queen holly]

well you get the numpad at least

[edgy shale]

control 7 is psycopath shit

[tardy hare]

ctrl 7 is mouse

mount*

[queen holly]

ctrl space is mount

[tardy hare]

wtf

ctrl space is also jump

incase im casting spells with ctrl bound

[queen holly]

i don't have any other ctrl binds, just shift and alt

but i'm now considering the need to start binding stuff to it

or i buy mmo mouse

$ solves all problems

[amber compass]

shift 7 is my efflo

[tardy hare]

shift 7 is burest

[sinful canyon]

how shit would dh/frost dk/resto druid be

in 3s

[late stirrup]

is it easier to get 2.1k in 2s or 3s

or is it same shit

[slim robin]

213 guardian FC with CD getting smoked by a ret T_T

[edgy shale]

[late stirrup]

why are mistweavers so good in rbgs but terrible in arenas ?

[edgy shale]

just laugh at the oom mw as he stands in the corner

leave him alive

[formal girder]

What are people's opinions on the best NF soulbind for feral? Seems like podtender saves you 1 in 20 times and is otherwise lackluster. Korayn looks decent right now, but that capstone is the goal.

[tardy hare]

niya is what i go

24/7

23% dmg increase for 30 sec after convoke

gg

[edgy shale]

i have seen mw pump heals on the chart but idk if it was useful healing or pad healing

[late stirrup]

next week we get burrs which is really strong in comparison to our other potency conduits right ?

[formal girder]

i'll definitely be going korayn in 2 weeks, even if it means forfeiting a potency conduit

[edgy shale]

idk bout burrs in pvp cuz its fucky with slows. its prob just w orth going the poison for feral, unless u just want the endurance conduits to not die against certain comps

ima try both next week n report back either way

[tardy hare]

idk korayn stuff doesnt look that impressve

[edgy shale]

ill wanna try first strike too, it might be good in 2s to just fish for resets like a rogue but idk

[formal girder]

first strike, coupled with the damage increase above 75% would amplify your burst window with the berserk opener

I'm already near 100-0ing a lot of classes in the openers. Now, that may be down to low versatility on their part, but hey

[sinful atlas]

Found it

^^

[tardy hare]

great style

[exotic wolf]

lets pin it and remake the same thing when someone asks to the pin, inception

[jolly nebula]

What are some of the best comps for moonkin 3v3? Ty

[loud wedge]

can you pin that image glyph? so i can find it later

[surreal heron]

[primal bane]

any shaman players here

[split bluff]

plague deviser

[primal bane]

:( srs?

feels like the most boring choice

[foggy drift]

how do I /cancelaura Rejuvenation (Germination) ??

it just removes the regular rejuv

[stone nest]

Im assuming for mind games?

Also why tf are they buffing arms dps.

[grand mesa]

Pve

[stone nest]

Ok then make it pve only. Wars are going to slap my poor rdruids ass. I have it hard enough as is lol.

[grand mesa]

I don’t think anyone disagrees haha. There’s pvp only buffs and nerfs idk why they can’t do pve only aura buffs

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/gitgud-thepruld-git-gud-dark-gif-8126281

[stone nest]

All I’m saying is that from week 1-2 to now, I feel like I’m on mist weaver level lol

All these hard to kite classes are getting buffed and taking my only advantage away

[queen holly]

is there a macro to cast one of typhoon, maim or incap roar depending on your affinity

[clear pulsar]

The worst part of ww is just how long the cds last

Like you kite for fucking 20s straight and they still have another 20s of full dmg for ur ass

[queen holly]

i can put them all into a /cast macro but then the tooltips don't show correctly

[stone nest]

If I wasn’t in disc asking my boys to peel for me, I imagine I’d have quit by now.

I can kite like a god damn pro but they catch me once it’s all but over.

[willow yacht]

are there any druid specs that use necrolord for pvp and pve? or either?

[stone nest]

Probably just resto

At least that’s the only one it’s viable for in arenas. Buffing dots is kinda crap atm since dots suck

[exotic wolf]

resto

[neon eagle]

Which soulbind looks the best for max renown for Guardian in RBGs?

[hardy cargo]

If you pve don't play necro as a rdruid. Necros the worst pve cov and best pvp cov.

[stone nest]

Night fae is good at both

[kindred dragon]

Night Fae is fine for resto as long as you aren’t trying to go above like 2.2 because after that, it’s almost entirely necros

[rancid sundial]

What would you say is the biggest mistake Kyrian boomies make in arena? I don't have a consistent team and haven't been playing in comms much, so not set up for success, but I'm having a hard time climbing. I try to set up CC chains and stop big CDs like convoke or combust, but maybe I'm not pumping enough?

[kindred galleon]

Beam+pump

Cyclone and prep

[rancid sundial]

Triple clone healer into rbeam and dump 5 surges is what I aim for

Maybe I'm not paying attention to defensives enough? Idk

[wispy edge]

What sort of comp should i be looking for as Boomy - both 2's / 3's

only 1600 CR in both atm

[wise valley]

absolute work of art

the subtle brush strokes really show you were experiencing turmoil and emotion at the time, such brilliance

[sturdy veldt]

How do you guys properly counter rogue/mage as feral?

Im stuck around 2k mmr and I just keep queing into them lol

[stone nest]

Besides living the combust I think the biggest thing is keeping the rogue in combat.

I’m rdruid feral aff and I’m chasing the rogue the whole game with moon fire

[fickle junco]

not at 2k but i tend to use my partner as bait. and disorient/stun them when they come out.

[sturdy veldt]

yeah atm im doing that strat as well

let them go on my priest bud and try to get bleeds up on rogue atleast

[stone nest]

They can stealth through bleeds

[sturdy veldt]

i struggle so much when they just have another go without any big cds and still clap me regardless

[stone nest]

They have to get a re for another go

[tall knoll]

I mean thats the whole point of mage/rogue. And the reason why its so good since 10 years. Setup, blow defensives from the enemy, disengage, repeat. Maybe take the disarm pvp talent? Dont know specifics about feral though unfortunately

[stone nest]

I’d imagine as a feral if they get a re you should try and match it so you can stun when they open

[celest plume]

not druid related, but well. Is there anything about first steps in BGs? don't want to give (too much) free honour to the opposing faction as a n00b.

[stone nest]

That’s super general

[clear pulsar]

That is how every single comp in the game plays brother

Coordinate cross CC with burst cds, trade defensives efficiently

[tall knoll]

But mage/rogue is the prime example for a setup comp

Just saying there is no magic counterplay to it. Experience makes perfect, but its just a hard comp to beat if played perfectly

[stark tulip]

can anyone set me up with some guardian pvp knowledge? talents, pvp talents, etc.

[clear pulsar]

The boomie ones

[stone nest]

Honestly my boomies end up fcing like 75% of the time

[tribal kernel]

any way to predict torghast wings?

[stark tulip]

yea im trying to get used to the boomie fc but my rbg group runs 2 boomies so im trying to get talents and shit together for like the azurite map

[misty horizon]

Nope. It's random. You can get legos out of Twisting Corridors. Say you want a lego from Mort'regar. Zone into TC until you get the Mort'regar tileset, then kill the floor 6 boss and you'll get the appropriate lego

[teal hinge]

@wispy edge 1 minute build with a priest is pretty fun

[frigid frigate]

Fearful Symmetry better in hands or head?

[celest plume]

what is fc?

[stone nest]

Flag carrying

[long mango]

#showtooltip
/cast [talent:3/1] Spell 1
/cast [talent:3/2] Spell 2
/cast [talent:3/3] Spell 3

[clear pulsar]

The affinity utility is rly fucky for my brain

[queen holly]

no, because it's not a talent

[clear pulsar]

It is

Based on a talent

Selection

You aren't writing /use talent1

You're writing use spell 1 if talent is selected

You can do that with any spell with any talent

You can do /use [talent:3/3]ferocious bite

You're not writing /use talent:3/3

That's just the conditional for running that line

[junior plover]

NA bois

did the buffs go into pvp

tell me

[forest kite]

Dépend ur comp, but yes it's simple you just wanna setup a kill every 1 min with burst + root beam + cross cc from your teammate.

[rancid sundial]

@forest kite thanks for the reply. I think I need to be picky with teammates and find a group that's willing to do reps and use comms

[torn prairie]

Hello 🙂 I am kinda confused how to work with New Moon/Full Moon. Do i just cast it, or do i build it up somehow? Like for instance how do i use it properly in Arena?

[iron briar]

i personally play FoE in arenas

[weak hinge]

Dont use the talent in arena basically. And for RBG use it to burst during your eclipse.

Only Fullmoon does something tbh

[cursive bough]

Anyone using the glad badge over the aspirants? losing like 86 haste seems awful for some crit.

[teal hinge]

More 1 minute burst with badge

[torn prairie]

Okay. Thank you so much for the quick response

[vast vapor]

the verdant infusion legendary for resto - does this still require a HoT on the target to cast swiftmend? or will i just be able to freecast it on cooldown?

[iron briar]

still need a hot

[vast vapor]

thanks very much, bummer

[weary rock]

hey guys! I was wondering about feral leggos - i heard apex is bad, and was between making a 225 of curio or sym

[cursive bough]

right im going to use the badge regardless but i was wondering if we were going to use the honor over the conquest one since the conq is crit

[twilit siren]

feral pvp stats vers>crit>mast>hast?

[iron briar]

an extra 60-90 primary stat is to much to lose for the haste hoshi

[chrome panther]

vers > mast > crit > haste

[twilit siren]

I guess bigger bites are more important than crit shred procs?

[sly vector]

Quick question just so i understand its the first time i play balance at all and i was wondering why exactly we play vers/haste i mean i understand vers but why haste i dont see any cds that would get reduced by it

[iron briar]

its about getting us back in to eclipse faster

[queen holly]

generally casters just want to cast fast

[teal hinge]

@sly vector quicker clones

[iron briar]

Quicker Regrowths

xd

[primal bane]

@sly vector lots of boomies use mastery 2nd, but haste logic is 50% everything being slightly faster is nice

and 50% you gain more AP this way

so youre ready to pump faster

[vast vapor]

does anyone run oath of the elder druid in RBGs? i'm resto

[acoustic nebula]

Yes oath is bis

[turbid jolt]

I guess you could if you were worried about going offensive with convoke? I think most use swiftmend one

[stone nest]

Mother tree is bis in rbgs. The bark skin leggo is better than oath if you are going for something like that.

Being offensive with convoke is hardly ever a good idea in an rbg as resto. Maybe to an efc to confirm a kill but oath wouldn’t be the game changer. Using convoke offensively is rare enough to where buffing it for offense probably isn’t recommended.

[viscid quest]

Bus leggo for feral? Which slot and missives?

Bis*

[wise valley]

fuck new BT

[tribal kernel]

ty very much

[calm hollow]

for 2s?

for balance?

looks like lots of glads are using it

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Yall are wild

Can people really not realize

That verdant infusion does fucken jackshit for balance lmao

[calm hollow]

why?

[clear pulsar]

It's resto druids logged off in balance spec doggie

What do you think that leggo accomplishes?

[calm hollow]

if you're doing double dps with resto affinity

[clear pulsar]

Extend your terrific regrowths?

It's every reset day like clockwork s2g

People do their chores, wqs, torghast etc as boomie

Then log off to do another character

Also 11 out of 290 players

'Lots of'

[tulip falcon]

[calm hollow]

where you see that info? i'm interested in looking

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Where did you see yours?

Lol

[wise valley]

lots of

[calm hollow]

the ladder

i'm literally asking a question

[surreal heron]

[calm hollow]

and ur being a dick lol

[clear pulsar]

I'm curious

[late mural]

does convoke not hit roots?

[clear pulsar]

Where you got this info that

Lots of boomies run verdant infusion

At glad rating

[verbal fractal]

It does not @late mural

[blissful belfry]

Well, your question was in itself completely moronic. I understand the reaction

[calm hollow]

how is it moronic?

[late mural]

has it always been that way?

[verbal fractal]

Im not sure I know they changed it a month or so ago

[blissful belfry]

its moronic as in - Anyone with more than 3 IQ can figure out the answer that face pointed out

[clear pulsar]

Every single tuesday without fail people ask the exact same question, you said you see lots of boomies at glad rating with the legendary, I am genuinely curious about where you're coming from. Extending a rejuv does barely anything for non-restos.

[stone nest]

Face is our resident asshole. He speaks the truth with his own flair

[clear pulsar]

Yo mama's my resident asshole

[tropic panther]

anyone use Draught of Deep Focus in feral pvp

seems like it would be fun to make

[grizzled umbra]

Best BG i've ever done so far

in terms of adrenaline i mean (look at the score on the top)

And boomie is so good to play in this one, the 45yd range is op

[mighty void]

crafting boat, legs or feet ? i suppose legs as more stats ?

[safe heart]

too much haste?

[wise valley]

wait

is that the @late mural

THE ALLEN

[late mural]

?

[wise valley]

i must be mistaken

i thought for a second you were THE ALLEN the NUMBER 1 FERAL in our hearts

[junior plover]

If you guys are aware

that arms needs nerfs

why the fuck

did you not

make

the

damage

buff

non

pvp

what is going on

[iron briar]

But but but they need a buff!

[junior plover]

This literally feels like a spit in the face

[iron briar]

Where’s starsurge buff blizz!

[stone nest]

I’m afraid to log in today

[junior plover]

forgetting about pvp is one thing but they did this on purpose

[stone nest]

Ima get my cheeks clapped

[junior plover]

they put a pvp nerf in the same patch as a 3% damage buff

[iron briar]

So they can’t rally cry as often but won’t matter cuz you’ll be 3% more deaded

[junior plover]

The cry nerf is good

love it

but like

why not reduce their damage by 3% in pvp

[stone nest]

Oh no they can’t rally as often. Still gets saced and bopped with the hpal they are with 100% of the time

[junior plover]

just whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Rallying cry is aoe

this is a good change because warr is an overloaded support

[stone nest]

It’s not like they use it on cd. I don’t think this is a big nerf

[iron briar]

It’s not a nerf :p

It’s a 3% buff heh

The rally cry change is irrelevant in arenas honestly as they have so many other tools with hpala but the damage buff just takes extreme damage and turns it in to extrmeme damage

[stone nest]

I use to think rdruids would be fine eventually when they get mastery but I’m about as decked as I’ll get minus a couple things and it’s not getting better.

[grizzled umbra]

It's a nerf, they're almost using it on cd, i'm playing RM and it's a pain in the arse

they can counter every go by themselves

[stone nest]

Arms is already a pretty solid counter to rm without rally I’d imagine

[clear pulsar]

You're completely wilding if you think the rally nerf is irrelevant lmao

Baffling really

[stone nest]

Na I’m not. They don’t use it on cd with my comps.

[clear pulsar]

3% dmg buff is SO BAD but 60s cd nerf to rally is irrelevant

TIL

[stone nest]

Maybe it’ll help some but not me.

[iron briar]

To average players (of which the majority of players in here will be - including myself) would I be more worried about a 3% buff to a class I already struggle to live against or a defensive cd I rarely get to proc anyway?

[sterile citrus]

Guys i need help

Demon hunters always destroy me in arenas

Any tactic thats viable against them?

[iron briar]

As what spec edolin?

[sterile citrus]

Feral

[iron briar]

Good thorns usage would be my #1 thing, but he’s likely to try purge it

[sterile citrus]

Hmm

[stone nest]

Mass roots is a must

That’s a feral thing right?

[sterile citrus]

Uhm

Roots is

Not mass roots i think

[iron briar]

Bear affinity for surviving meta’s

You can root on PS anyway

[sterile citrus]

Balance affinity has not much use in pvp sadly

[iron briar]

I’d keep bash for kill target

[sterile citrus]

Cyclone and keep em ccd

Thanks matey

[iron briar]

Thorns and ironfurs is how I beat DH teams but it’s not every time, I just play around tiger fury windows to burst

[sterile citrus]

I use incarnation aswell

Great to reset mid fight if im not dotted

[iron briar]

He can see you and if I’m correct SOTF gives us more burst with symmetry

[clear pulsar]

Incarn is a 1v1 thing

It's not a good talent if you live past 30 seconds

[sterile citrus]

Soo

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt do anything more than Berserk

[sterile citrus]

CC, LoS and burst hard?

[clear pulsar]

Only really the 1 restealth

[iron briar]

Lots of CC , sit bear during metas and probably try to kill off target as auto-blur is a wanker

[sterile citrus]

Gotcha!

<3

[tulip falcon]

it has like 10sec more duration as well but

ye

still minor and not worth

[iron briar]

Does feral incarn also get the 10% crit?or just boomy incarn

[tulip falcon]

no its just slightly longer duration, 1 restealth and 20% energy reduction

vs normal berserk

[sharp wyvern]

what conduits are resto druids running in arena?

[stone nest]

Depends on cov and play style

[iron briar]

Been trying resto Druid on kyrian alt, actually quite fun

[lime light]

U guys strong together

Like an apes

[foggy ravine]

feral gets instacast roots, you don't need to spec out of bash for mass roots vs DH

[solid trail]

Is there a way to get guardian druid to 1400 or do I need to just learn feral?

[junior plover]

Play RBG

[foggy ravine]

^

[paper plover]

whats better timewarn or balance

for nf

i crafted both but not sure which is actually better

y

[foggy ravine]

for NF is preference really

timeworn would probably give more consistent burst windows

[novel wind]

what am i supposed to do as resto when a warrior is just sitting on me? hope my teammate peels him off?

fuckers do so much damage

[paper plover]

sit bear form til you die

oh you're an rsham

[novel wind]

yeah that's pretty much what i do now lol

no drood

[paper plover]

not rsham

resto

resto drood sucks

inting spec

[novel wind]

feels bad

[wise valley]

what is the poppin alliance realm on EU

[novel wind]

actually against warriors even not on me i'm reduced to spamming regrowth so my team doesn't die

[ruby walrus]

warrs got a phat buff, that makes them gods rn

And every burst dmg buff is a resto nerf tbh

[edgy shale]

what is the poppin alliance realm on EU
@wise valley na

[wise valley]

what

[teal hinge]

3% is considered a big buff?

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

3% on arms warrior? yeah

[edgy shale]

play on f2f server

[safe heart]

like theyre already big dam for no reason, now they get more dmg

because they need more dmg to be competitive in pve i guess 🙃

[teal hinge]

Ehh it's just 3%.

It's not gonna be big

You probably won't even notice

[safe heart]

hard to go from 100-0 faster i guess so i suppose youre right

[teal hinge]

Right

Instead of getting 1 shot.. you'll just be 1 shot

[stone nest]

Wars don’t one shot?

[teal hinge]

Sarcasm

Lawd

[cunning spoke]

hello all! Been lurking for a bit and wanted to ask about haste vs mastery for pvp. Haste seems to be on a lot of gear and on the very popular websites. Is that generally followed?

[potent void]

instead of being 1-shot now you'll be 0.97-shot

[foggy ravine]

roots and clone to peel, los so they cant charge / death sentence charge you, bear form when they are on ya, pray that your dps kills the other healer quickly

[lime light]

@cunning spoke tell the spec odc

Ofc

[mighty void]

which slot to craft BOAT to ?

[cunning spoke]

oops sorry balance

[cunning spoke]

I ended up going boots

[thorny venture]

I hate alliance ashran

the only strat that works is Zerg the mage

but people don't believe it

they stop to fight in the road

and then mage takes too long

[cunning spoke]

I feel seen

[thorny venture]

Like if all 20-30 go straight to mage, pop lust, and burn, he'll die before he casts living bomb

But nooo, "We need to try and wipe them while they have a 15% stat bonus on us!!!!"

Not my worst loss in here. That goes to the Pandaren monk who things alliance can somehow pve their way to a win with Fangraal

[wintry lake]

hi guys, is there a oneshot macro recommended for kyrian balance druids in pvp? just switched over from nightfae

[crude minnow]

if youre doing 3s as boomy with aff lock, if your team is taking a good amount of damage and you are alternating clones with high winds... when should you not do that? Aff lock kleeps getting pissy and its a no comms game

[candid moth]

havent played it this season but you rarely clone with an affliction WL because you rather want to rot the enemy team down. I would do it only its like a clone or die scenario

you also DR fear that way in case he wants to peel

[crude minnow]

aight. i felt like we take a shit ton of damage at times and need to do something to peel

[candid moth]

you could try taking the root pvp talent

and do that instead

[hushed pivot]

So how good is oath? does it have value in BG and arena as balance/resto?

[crude minnow]

thats a good point, atleast for melee teams

[foggy ravine]

roots must underrated spell

[stray sigil]

daily reminder bt curio is bis

[crude minnow]

I just feel so slow in arena. Like I learn things and I get "better" via knowledge but my reaction speed and input overload just sucks. I was so much better at this stupid game 10 years ago

[stray sigil]

i have done it

random ppl talking about bt curio on reddit

mission accomplished

[junior plover]

prove it

[stray sigil]

theres a random post in worldofpvp about sp feral

and some dude is recommending bt curio

[junior plover]

If reddit is recommending it

you know it sucks

[stray sigil]

you know u wanna play hard like this

but u did go kyrian

i will make u go curio bt some day

[junior plover]

ill try it next week

since im making max rank curio anyway i guess

and then i'll realize SR Curio is the way

LETS FUCKIN GO

all the buttons i need

[tardy hare]

pog

[junior plover]

just realized i cant triple symm bite without sotf

so plans delayed till tomorrow

[stray sigil]

sr

[junior plover]

SR is obviously bis

TF SR Kyrian Dark Archangel

for 60% more damage

slap BT on top of that I guess

[stray sigil]

[ripe isle]

Best leggo for Guardian in RBGs is it the Natural Order's Will?

[lime light]

@stray sigil BRAZILIAN APE

[stray sigil]

i am not brazilian u ruski fuck

[lime light]

sorry Sir

[junior plover]

but you are an ape huh

[lime light]

i missclicked

🙂

[ripe isle]

Any RBG FCs here?

[stray sigil]

good

dont ever compare me to face

ever again

[pallid coral]

@ripe isle legacy of the sleeper

[ripe isle]

ty

[crude minnow]

You can swap to NOW when your incarn is down if you want @ripe isle

[thorny venture]

only Alliance can lose WG defense

[tardy hare]

Truth

[thorny venture]

I'm tired of bgs being the fastest way to get gear when undergeared but also hell to play with no gear

[foggy ravine]

Covenant campaign gives you a set of 197s and you’re going to do it anyways for the renown

[pallid coral]

https://twitter.com/Whaazzwow/status/1356695177658855425

Whaazz (@Whaazzwow)

Very disgusting to see how guys are talking to and about girls online. This year an AWC player in EU got banned for harassing my GF multiple times in whisper.
Now one of my friend's girlfriend is getting the same treatment but from other people.
https://t.co/p4ERDkkZjg
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Twitter · Feb 2, 2021, 8:05 PM

huh

i guess thats how loony got banned

[tardy hare]

Sorry it was me whispering Snowmixy

[thorny venture]

the 197 takes SO MUCH anima

[stray sigil]

cant be you macthig

u are a simp

[tardy hare]

Yes

I was asking her if i could drive Hot Wheels over her bonkers breasts

My queen

[clear pulsar]

It is pretty pathetic

The way some of yall gamers talk about other people

Not just women

[tardy hare]

Shush face

[stray sigil]

can i drive my hot weels on ur hot tits machtig

[tardy hare]

Have u ever had to endure their annoying voices in RBGs

[edgy shale]

i have nothing but respect for my fellow gamer

[stray sigil]

i only respect fellow cult member of the curio bt

[tardy hare]

4 sure, can i drive my limited edition Mater from Cars over your back?

[stray sigil]

normally i would say no

but for u sure

[tardy hare]

[stray sigil]

how old is corki

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i picture him like

a 18-19 year old

no more

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I only simp irl

Egirls go die

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if u like women

ur gay as fuck

[tardy hare]

Im hella gay

[edgy shale]

facts

[stray sigil]

true

that u are

[tardy hare]

I like men

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ok not what i pictured

LOL

[tardy hare]

Looks like a true woman hater

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was thinking like

pojke

back in the day

type of vibe

[tardy hare]

Old pojke

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yesyes

[tardy hare]

In my old room

I had a picture of new pojke

With i ❤️ minpojke on it

Xd

Friend of mine sent me the picture and was like

Frame it

So i did

[clear pulsar]

[tardy hare]

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Bro

This is peak pvp

Yall are disgusting

[tardy hare]

Irl pv

[clear pulsar]

All of you

[tardy hare]

P

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LMFAO

if thats true

what a legend

[tardy hare]

That'd be hella funny

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imagine he fucked holinkas wife

[tardy hare]

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so boetar is the reason we aint getting pvp changes

[clear pulsar]

Tfw Boetar tired of getting fucked by blizzard prize pools, decides to fuck game director's wife