pvp

[junior plover]

You dont really rip in 3s

its not a part of your gameplan

[shy cloud]

gameplan is another thing .. 😄

[junior plover]

putting up a 1/2 cp rip before a go can be beneficial tho because of Taste for Blood

and ofc if you know you wont go for a while

better to rip than to bite because more damage

but with Ferocious Wound being a thing i struggle to find ways to rip in 3s

[shy cloud]

i try to focus more on 2s, cause i find playing feral ( my main is mage) in arena challenging enough for now

[crude minnow]

Renown pretty much never comes from pvp. Ran like 50 arena never seen 1. Like 20 or so bgs gave 1

[edgy shale]

idk wat openers y'all even do in pvp. I generally just do the bfa one from muscle memory. tf rake, rip, ff, bite

[shy cloud]

what i´ve seen / read so far this is the standart one

[junior plover]

thanks meatball

for staying with me

i love u 2

[junior plover]

rake -> rip -> FF -> go from there

[edgy shale]

keep it bfa style

with busted ass sbt

[shy cloud]

thats the point where i die afterwards kekw

[junior plover]

[shy cloud]

maybe i should play with the def leggy

the barkskin thing

[junior plover]

You run Well Honed Instincts

as your endurance conduit

right

[shy cloud]

ye

[junior plover]

[edgy shale]

ur dying before popping wall?

[shy cloud]

well, i face teams like: Warri/retri retri/retri retri/xxxxx

so yeah, sometimes i pop my wall ( i feel like instant) and if i watch in details i had like 20% left

where im obviously too slow

[edgy shale]

well, feral's best defensive option is ur mobility at the end of the day. if ur getting blown up that fast just stun cyclone the dps or something

and literally just run away during cds

or at all times

and bear form is ur friend

r u running guardian aff?

[shy cloud]

depends a bit. most of the time resto aff i would say, cause i think i need the healing, especially in a double dd setup

[edgy shale]

just run guardian. the dmg reduction is huge, and u get healing w/ it anyway thru frenzied regen

resto is good, but if u feel like ur getting blown up instantly you'll like guardian

[shy cloud]

ill def. try that out tonight

[edgy shale]

incap roar into cyclone is huge

[shy cloud]

yeah true

i should just clone more

i know im using it not enough, but its hard to find the timings

especially for an offensive you´se

[edgy shale]

literally just use it. if u get kicked, who cares. they used a gcd on nothing, put their kick on cd for convoke and so ur team can freecast, if it goes thru u just took sum1 outta the game for 6 seconds on a 0 cd ability

and its not like ur a wizard where getting kicekd can mean 0 damage

obv be careful about DRing it when u need it to be fresh for kill setups

[north garnet]

Hi, can someone tell me which PVP legendary is the best for balance druid ?

[shy cloud]

i guess that depends on the pvp content you would like to play 🙂

[north garnet]

mainly rbg

[shy cloud]

what i´ve seen so far is that boomies play balance of all things in rbg

[candid moth]

they do, yes

[amber pond]

Not all of them. I hop into randoms from time to time, and I learn quickly, I just haven't been in some BG's from MOP -> Legion era

[steel raft]

gonna craft my verdant infusion on my resto druid alt, just wondering whether to craft it as hands or shoulders, anyone know if one is more beneficial than the other?

checked some high rated resto druids on the ladder and some had it on hands and some on shoulders, so I have no idea

[exotic wolf]

next week is ultimate form as necro rdruid.
time to swap covenants

[exotic wolf]

afaik you get some more stats if you craft it on shoulder.
I crafted it on hands because I'm aiming haste/versa on every piece of gear and I only pvp

[steel raft]

and you can buy haste versa shoulders but not hands?

[exotic wolf]

yes, pvp shoulders are haste versa

[steel raft]

think Ill put it on hands too, if I need to I can always just kill hc stone legion generals for a chance at 220 vers crit shoulders

[iron briar]

How much play does rdruid see in rbgs and what talent builds ect do they run?

[steel raft]

havent seen many of them in my games

[iron briar]

Guess i go guardian for RBGs then

[steel raft]

guardian is really strong with the legendary that prevents crowd control

can also go boomie if you dont need a tank for certain bg maps

[iron briar]

Eh, tryna avoid going boomy as i havent got convoke (kyrian feral mainly on this dudu)

[forest kite]

Any advice on FF vs bloodtalons in 2s? I've been running ff but I'm curious what others do

[crude minnow]

if you are good as guardian, you can definitely run it on most maps. If you get good at spinning and rotating for spinning, guardian can be very very effective atleast up to 2400 mmr i've seen

It requires some niche play on maps like azerite map (idk wtf its called)

[tulip falcon]

ye seething shore you pretty much just solo spin off nodes for as long as possible if you go guardian

[tough bluff]

@forest kite FF provides a very reliable set up imo. it is great to be able to 5cp maim the off-target then FF your go target for your full CPs into triple bites w/ tiger lego. i'd have to look at the numbers but i believe FF is more overall damage than the BT bonus to 2 bites.

[forest kite]

Thanks, my reasoning was similar

also BT can be a bit clunky sometimes

[tulip falcon]

BT is definitely a viable option though, I use it as well as some others in here. It depends what lego you're running as well, if you're running symm then you'll probably find that FF works better for what you're doing

I find that BT works quite nicely with Apex

[forest kite]

Sure maybe I'll try it, I was thinking about crafting Apex for pve anyways

[iron briar]

Does feral see any play in RBGs, im guessing not as they just furry rogues

[tulip falcon]

I hit 2700 yesterday playing feral/guardian but it'd be pretty much impossible to pug unless you're boomie with guardian offspec

you could do it as guardian only too since there's a use for it on most maps

but yea i've seen like 2 other ferals this entire season in rbg

it "works" but no one's going to take stuff in pugs that isn't meta unfortunately

[slim robin]

any tips on finding good rbg groups? tired of making/leading pugs

[tulip falcon]

you just need to network and gradually build up a list of good players, add anyone from pugs you think was good and keep an eye out if they make groups or need people. It's the only way really, and you'll eventually find other people through other people's groups etc.

if you just pug with new people every day then you'll probably struggle

[slim robin]

Makes sense! thanks

[tulip falcon]

it may take a while to build that network as rbgs are quite a "closed" community past a certain rating but it just takes a bit of luck and being noticed. Make sure to be vocal in groups as well, it helps you stand out amongst everyone else

[candid moth]

yeah, just do a good job and add leaders you liked playing with

[rich geode]

For all the RBG gods. What is the main role of Boomkins in RBG?

Im mainly getting good Convoke of and then Cross ccing enemy healers.

Furthermore im landing some starsurges into the main target. Is that allright?

[foggy ravine]

Keep your dots up for AP, cyclone spam in between goes, root beam healer on goes shoot star surges

[primal bane]

raceswap kultiran and kill a healer/dps every single fight in like more than half of the maps

[foggy ravine]

Sit places ninja cap if necessary

[proud crest]

i hate sitting as boomkin

[foggy ravine]

Boomkin should p much never been solo capped on

[primal bane]

i only play RBGs right now because i can environmental kill people

and its so fucking common too

idk how can u play it without a knockback class i swear

[proud crest]

you can spin forever as boomkin but sometimes you gotta staff the cloaked rogue

[foggy ravine]

Treants for cloak

But also can’t cap in a cloak

[junior plover]

ok 3 hc dungeons and 2 bgs

no renown

wtf is this shit

I thought this would be EZ Clap

[proud crest]

hmmm treants

i havent tried that i just whack them with my staff

[foggy ravine]

Nah cloak is like 4s and cap is 6s

You can also just moonfire

[junior plover]

u know theres typhoon right

[foggy ravine]

Smoke bomb is 5s so you can moonfire that too

[junior plover]

[primal bane]

yes babydick 5 yard push shiver me timbers

[junior plover]

its HOOGE

[primal bane]

its still very good ngl

but kul tiran racial

genuinely guarantees kills on a lot of maps

[proud crest]

imagine playing alliance

[primal bane]

like its a "kill an oppon ent of your choice" cooldown on certain maps

[junior plover]

imagine playing non night elf alliance

[primal bane]

ok tell me right now

how hard is it to make a successful RBG pug

im losing my mind w/ these guys

like i just dont know shotcall strats, i can follow them

and its the only thing stopping me from making my own

[proud crest]

well if you do it youll learn

[haughty compass]

There isn’t strat calls, just play the game

[primal bane]

yes but

we need like

target caller

or people to tell who goes where

the delete of that word is awfully slow

is it even automated

[proud crest]

i saw it lul

[iron briar]

If I ever want to push RBGs I just play dk target caller, grip dragon or grip stun just for face roll fights

[primal bane]

i genuinely can't tell if this is a good desc

like personally i wouldnt join one of these if i had a choice

thoughts?

[iron briar]

To much info

[primal bane]

facts

[iron briar]

They can’t see what classes you have

[primal bane]

deleting all that class shit

[iron briar]

So they don’t know if you just got a boomie or w/e, just ask for CR / XP and as much as I hate it / Vers

[junior plover]

asking for vers

[tulip falcon]

lol

[iron briar]

What rating are you cope?

[tulip falcon]

please don't ask for vers

[primal bane]

yeah idk why its even asked

like u cant check it

at most u can check

if i have some pvp gear

[tulip falcon]

because people dumb

[junior plover]

I would only consider asking for vers if i was

1400 rating

[primal bane]

but i could tell you anything from 21 to 28 and you will believe it

@iron briar 1670

[junior plover]

to weed out the pve frogs

[tulip falcon]

bro i was at 2200 mmr on my 165 ilvl alt druid that was freshly dinged

[iron briar]

Mastery stacking boomies do much more in RBGs than Vers stacking :p

[junior plover]

also ye versa stacking in rgb

[tardy hare]

People asking for vers is a big im skipping that group for me

[junior plover]

[candid moth]

for a start it work to just call healers as target (preferable pala) and swap arround. When you get better you will look out for easy target who have used their defensives or melees demolishing your backline, people being out of position or trinket etc

[iron briar]

Mmmm thinking I gotta go voke feral to carry 2s at low rating

[candid moth]

shouldnt be needed if you are good

also depends on what you call low rating

is that 1.4, 1.6, 1.8?

[primal bane]

fml i missed a HOTA apply

[iron briar]

I’m like 175 ilvl heh, just tryna carry some guildies up to 1.6

[tardy hare]

Gl

[candid moth]

good luck with that

[tardy hare]

Xd

[tulip falcon]

i wouldn't accept someone just cos they are hota

theres like 1.5 gazillion boosted rbg players

[primal bane]

what are your reqs then

[tardy hare]

175ilvl convoke id something i'd just look at

[tulip falcon]

idk i dont group finder

lol

[candid moth]

• wintraded

[tardy hare]

And let happen just to see what happens

[tulip falcon]

not so much anymore but ye in cata/mop a lot of wintraders

[tardy hare]

At his rating

[candid moth]

I remember in cata every second group was looking for people to wintrade

[tardy hare]

Any hota is gonna be a free pick

Tbh

[tulip falcon]

the days of quakenet

[primal bane]

i just want

[tulip falcon]

IRC chat for pugging

[primal bane]

2.1k free 226 man

[candid moth]

rbg it is then

was never that easy

[primal bane]

what makes it so easy this season tho

[tardy hare]

Hella inflated

[candid moth]

friend of mine cant break 1.6 in arena and reached 2.4 the other day in rbg

[tardy hare]

Dont lose cr if you win 2, games jn a row

[candid moth]

he healed me to death with mindgames on him without knowing what it did

[junior plover]

I bet I could AFK my way to 2.1k in RBG

literally

[tardy hare]

Im doing it to 2.4 rn

[tulip falcon]

ye play guardian

[tardy hare]

Jk only some maps

[junior plover]

No I mean afk afk

[tardy hare]

My team cooker ooker dooker

[junior plover]

[tulip falcon]

i actually saw a 2.5k backpeddling keyboard turning guardian druid trying to ninja me at mines yesterday

[tardy hare]

Thats what the other 9 players on my team do

[tulip falcon]

like

it was the funniest shit ive seen

[tardy hare]

While I afk aswell

[junior plover]

[candid moth]

you win 3 games and you are at 2.5mmr, then you dont lose rating anymore and every win gives you some

[tulip falcon]

the inflation and mmr gain is nuts

[candid moth]

its literally broken

[junior plover]

RBG frogs need their own channel this channel is for real pvp only

[candid moth]

[primal bane]

if a lie is outrageous enough its so easy to believe

like im watching this guy's achievvs

and i still cant believe he isnt actually a 2.8k exp god but a 1.7k avg

[candid moth]

who?

[primal bane]

jubbajubba

warlock

EU ravencrest

[tulip falcon]

ill look at his armory now and can tell in 5 secs if hes a boost

[tardy hare]

?

[tulip falcon]

ye he has never been 2.8k lol

[tardy hare]

There isn't even a boost happenin

This guy is an ape

?

[tulip falcon]

max rbg 1600

[tardy hare]

What did he do

Link hota?

[candid moth]

what makes you think he is good?

[tardy hare]

Like

Why do people accept linking achieves

Rofl

[candid moth]

did he fear you and slow you to death?

[tulip falcon]

"he wrote 2.8k exp and I believed him!"

[junior plover]

[tulip falcon]

why is assistant professor jubbajubba not actually 2.8k!

[candid moth]

he might just be trolling people who want some old achiev from 8 years ago

because that makes you a good player in their eyes

[tulip falcon]

when u see these 2 things

u should know instantly

[tardy hare]

idk

i'd skip all that

casue i'd do that as meme

[tulip falcon]

lol i guess its a possibility

[primal bane]

what are those things

the title

[tardy hare]

i mean

[primal bane]

and what else

[candid moth]

its the title, its some default one I think

[tardy hare]

the moment i see the arena numbers i just decline already

[tulip falcon]

you can tell how bad someone is by their transmog

facts

[tardy hare]

truth

like

look at this for example

you can see here

old boomer

[tulip falcon]

yes

awful

[candid moth]

true

[tulip falcon]

who even uses that set yuck

[tardy hare]

then you look at this

and think

yeah

winner

[tulip falcon]

i think

chemo

[candid moth]

or this one

[tardy hare]

yeah loser

winner

[candid moth]

look at those boots, you can see a man who doesnt care

[primal bane]

guys

[tardy hare]

lmao

[primal bane]

if i told you the map im playing

[tulip falcon]

i hope people saw what i said

[primal bane]

could you briefly tell me what to shotcall

[tardy hare]

yes

[primal bane]

like before we start?

[foggy ravine]

Easy 10man camp the enemy spawn

[junior plover]

woah

[primal bane]

i dont wanna seem like i dont have the 2.2k experience that i said i have

[foggy ravine]

If they can’t play you win

[tardy hare]

Cope is learning

fantastic

[primal bane]

bro ive been doing this strat

since the start lol

and ive actually learned a lot

[weak hinge]

i played on 2.2mmr. is that 2.2xp?

[candid moth]

announce swap with: "going on XX soon", then "3,2,1"

[primal bane]

xp is very....broad and useless

like a 2k in last season or this one

is 10 times better than a 2.6k exp

[tardy hare]

yes if you take people who got 2.2 once in their life and then challenger only every seaon after

yes

you shouldnt care about 1 achieve

if they dont get consistent rating in the past 5 seasons

[tulip falcon]

reputation > exp

[tardy hare]

they're not getting thei nv

gg

[tulip falcon]

theres so many inflated seasons throughout the years

[candid moth]

also check winrate and games played; its at least what I do to avoid shitters

[tulip falcon]

and "coaching" is so accepted now

[tardy hare]

ngl

if i saw you krassz in lfg

[weak hinge]

i need a resto druid coach ngl

[tardy hare]

i'd decline insta

just

cause i see this

[tulip falcon]

i didnt play bfa until last season

lmao

[tardy hare]

yes

[candid moth]

haha

[tardy hare]

big decline

👋

[candid moth]

tbh, many people didnt enjoy bfa pvp and just tried it a bit to quit soon afterwards

[tulip falcon]

i played like the first month of s1

quit

[tardy hare]

the amount of people i decline

[tulip falcon]

came back towards the end of last season cos of lockdown

[tardy hare]

i dont get how people complain about LFG

[primal bane]

bro this guy Rivaz

[tulip falcon]

spent 4 months catching up cos of corruptions and bullshit

[tardy hare]

when i literally ask for 10 year experienced workers at the age of 18

and still manage to find people

[primal bane]

is so fucking annoiying like how u 2.8k and complain ABOUT ME at 1.6k rating

man ur 2.8k u should be 1v3ing not tlel me ill never go above

[tardy hare]

what server

[primal bane]

no idea but i know he is big

bc i saw him on a youtube pvp arena

at like 2.7k

fighting Snupy

[tulip falcon]

i always sorta wanted to push 3s just so i have something above 2.2 achi from 2014

cos it looks dog

[tardy hare]

[tulip falcon]

but i havent enjoyed arena in

a long time

[candid moth]

saem

*same

[tardy hare]

i dont mind it if it's in small portions

: )

but the mount is cool

so im gonna get it

and peace out

54 wins to go

then season is over

[tulip falcon]

i have 2 weeks off work so maybe ill do it

i think i could hit 2.4 if i tried properly

[candid moth]

I am now at 2.2 after 3 sessions of 3s and want to get the glad mount but the players I que with rather play PoE

[tardy hare]

ye gl dirty RBG player

smh

get outta here

!!!

[tulip falcon]

100k bet ill hit 2.4 before end of season

ez clap

[tardy hare]

gonna make this line peak even harder

gg

[tulip falcon]

tf is this

[tardy hare]

my rating

xd

[tulip falcon]

top down tiddie view

[tardy hare]

i call my 2s rating

the coastal cliff

[primal bane]

comp opinion?

[tardy hare]

its a comp

[candid moth]

you rather want 2x priest 1x hpally

mage + hunter is kinda limiting

[tulip falcon]

dogshit comp

[candid moth]

probably wont matter under 2.5

[tardy hare]

mage feels pog tho

[primal bane]

ok silverwing hold

[junior plover]

My god the renown catchup

[primal bane]

tell me strats pls

[junior plover]

just wiped sludgefist lfr

kill me

[primal bane]

warsong glutch

tell me strats

fast

[tardy hare]

fc grab flag, 1 hpal helps him

team go brrrrr

then team go gelp

then u win

gg

[candid moth]

have rogue escort the DH to flag or have rogue annoy their fc from start to finish

[crude minnow]

Cope https://bit.ly/RBGGuide

[foggy ravine]

Ye have rogue make efc life hell

[crude minnow]

It's a decent starter

[hardy cargo]

Rogue and druid probably

[primal bane]

ty val

[candid moth]

also if someone else has the flag than the enemy fc, have the rogue sit in stealth and try to sabotage their flag swap by stunning/sapping fc right before it

[hardy cargo]

Depends on if he's feral or not honestly

[tardy hare]

if enemy fc is a guradian druid

dont send 2

its useless

[crude minnow]

Try to kill the fc before they get to base. Kill squad can be druid/rogue/mage/hunter. If they have big D can send more

[hardy cargo]

If its a weaker efc like dk can generally 2man him

[crude minnow]

If you can kill their rogue at any point, do so. Helps with pressure.

[tulip falcon]

you generally have like 2 healers on defense and maybe 2-3 dps depending on comp matchup

like warlock on defense is giga for the slows

dk as well

with that comp you'll probably have an easier time killing whilst crossing than when they get to base tho

[plush lantern]

is there a decent server to play on for pvp?

[candid moth]

EU or US?

[plush lantern]

US

[candid moth]

then idk

[tulip falcon]

servers dont really matter much anymore other than for guilds

[plush lantern]

stormrage has like 20 minute waiting queues

not many on lfr

err premade

like 5 premade groups

[tulip falcon]

lfg is cross server

[plush lantern]

for rated that is

[tulip falcon]

ye its still cross server

[candid moth]

depends on what they understand under pvp. Is it instanced/rated one or do they want duels and world pvp

[crude minnow]

Tichondrius has a bit of a circle jerk going atleast for rbgs

[plush lantern]

i guess being a pve server, not many guilds are focused on pvp

[tulip falcon]

if you don't see many in premade finder it might be because your ilvl is low and they have requirements set

[candid moth]

there is no thing as pvp servers anymore, is it?

[tulip falcon]

no because of war mode

[candid moth]

I mean, that went away with warmode

[hardy cargo]

Most groups are 190+ ilvl aren't they?

[plush lantern]

ohh ok. i always thought servers like darkspear remain pvp focused. im 193 ilvl atm, new toon

[tulip falcon]

yea thats prob why you dont see many groups

just browsing through most premade groups i see are 200-210+

[candid moth]

thats probably why, you can set a minimum ilvl for your group when you list it, which will automatically be hidden for anyone under it

[plush lantern]

ohhh okay

so anything below i woldnt see

[crude minnow]

Finding similar exp/ilvl peeps to play with is nice. You both can improve and gear

[plush lantern]

most groups want a specific amount of vers too, which im yet to obtain 😛

[tulip falcon]

ye if you're below their minimum you wont see it listed

it's cross-server so changing server won't change that

[plush lantern]

ahh okay

[wind rover]

I was doing some casual BGs last night, and this other Druid was doing unreal damage and giving credit to his “one shot convoke macro” anyone have any idea what all this could be?

[hardy cargo]

I really don't understand the whole "vers makes you good player that I will take" Yea vers is super strong, but a 30% vers player can still be dogshit and get trampled by a 15% vers

[clear pulsar]

I refuse to join a group that whispers me 'vers?'

[tulip falcon]

lol

[tardy hare]

^

same

[clear pulsar]

This motherfucking 198 ilvl priest whispers me when I sign up 'vers?'

[crude minnow]

"1 shot convoke macro" is just trinket CA convoke that's it

[clear pulsar]

MOTHERFUCKER I HAVE 23 ILVLS ON YOU

Tf you mean vers

[tardy hare]

/cast convoke the spirits

[wind rover]

Lol

[tulip falcon]

"I have 5x hero, 4x gladiator and 2400 cr on my main"
"yea but what's your vers tho???"

[tardy hare]

but what IS your vers man

[tulip falcon]

i remember we queued alts

[tardy hare]

dodging the question huh

yeah

decline you

[tulip falcon]

i had my sorta freshly dinged 165 ilvl druid

this russian hpala refused to play

because of my gear

mid-game

he just went afk complaining about my 8% vers

[crude minnow]

My warrior and druid have great gear and I still suck at arena. My friends always say they need more gear to push or blame gear for a game and I'm like "naw we just suck"

[clear pulsar]

Can u blame him? @tulip falcon

[tulip falcon]

the game didn't even start and we almost won still with 2 healers

[primal bane]

whats strat

for shit idk whats it called

trollbane hall

vs defiler's dane

[tulip falcon]

we didnt need vers to ninja cap lh in the first 3 minutes

[tardy hare]

how tf u not even know bg names

jesus

[hardy cargo]

Arathi?

[crude minnow]

Idk what the azerite one is tbf

[tardy hare]

yes

[primal bane]

not even wow knows

[hardy cargo]

Seething shores

[hardy cargo]

Tank st

[tulip falcon]

seething shore needs to be deleted

[hardy cargo]

Yes

I hate seething

[tardy hare]

WSG and twin peaks too

only battle for gilneas

[tulip falcon]

wut

[crude minnow]

I like kotmogu and mines but seething shore is the worst

[tulip falcon]

base maps are boring

[tardy hare]

no no no those maps are all bad

my team cannot win teamfights

[hardy cargo]

I already only play gilneas

[tardy hare]

and therefore cannot play those maps

[hardy cargo]

Pls no

[tardy hare]

we need arathi, eots or gilneas

[tulip falcon]

cant win teamfight so u like gilneas?????

[tardy hare]

all other maps bad

yes cause we just cap off base while they pretend to be an "offensive force"

[hardy cargo]

Tank stable, 2-4 mines rest lumber mill OR blacksmith

Hold 3 and make sure you inc callers aren't tiny brain and wait until they're dead

[tardy hare]

gilneas bad example but i like gilneas cause its gilnea

[crude minnow]

So my internet sucks but my latency in game usually says it's pretty decent. I still feel like my input lag is pretty high though. Does that make sense or?

[hardy cargo]

People sitting base waiting until they die to call inc when there's 4 people on them is my pet peeve in bgs. Just call out inc while you're stalling so people get there sooner.

[tardy hare]

idk there's like 1 class that can stall a 4 man inc

and thats guardian druid

[tulip falcon]

just tell them to install bge and click on peoples frames

[tardy hare]

anything else is just capped on in 8 sec

[tulip falcon]

since people should notice a 4man inc

[tardy hare]

true

[hardy cargo]

I end up calling inc from across the map by watching health n shit

[tulip falcon]

yea if you def properly you should be watching everyone in the enemy team

if you see people stealth that weren't stealthed before you know they're incing most likely

[crude minnow]

As a balance druid defending do you normally just moonfire and run away at first? Then foe/fon then the other

[tardy hare]

Defending MT on eots tho

[crude minnow]

I guess if I know it's only 1 I can try 1v1

[tardy hare]

I usually put my turnspeed to 2500, look at the enemy

Spin like a spinbot

[haughty compass]

Sleeper guardian feels really good right now

[tardy hare]

Then kill em

[hardy cargo]

Turnspeed 3000 better

[tardy hare]

Turnspeed 3000 bugs out for other players

No longer actual spins then

[tulip falcon]

defending eots is worst feeling

i mean mt

[hardy cargo]

Eots is the worst feeling

[tulip falcon]

that too

[tardy hare]

Eots is good

Easy win

Dab

[hardy cargo]

My teams just can never play it???

[tardy hare]

I just want eots ab or deepwind cause we win those every time

But instead we get wsg, TP, mines and kotmogu

We got TP 4x in a row yesterdsy

Fucking tiltong

[hardy cargo]

Oh we're winning mid... oh our dps is leaving the healers behind to go take belf with a rogue and they don't stealth

[tardy hare]

Won 1 cause enemy guardian DC'd and rejoined as boomy for some blizzard reason

[hardy cargo]

Logic

[tardy hare]

Guy just dc'd and got reset to boomy

[hardy cargo]

I wish I could leave a bg and rejoin as boomy when I dont want to heal

[tardy hare]

Lmao

[tulip falcon]

everytime i've been dced in a bg i can never get back in

[hardy cargo]

You were already boomy thats why

Bgs dont accept people already good at boomy

[tardy hare]

He's a cat tho

Actuslly

That implies the statement aswell

[livid wasp]

idk why they cant nerf moonkins

so damn broken

[vital parcel]

Excuse me

[junior plover]

Because theyre pretty underpowered

compared to other casters

[tulip falcon]

ye i couldnt get back in because it saw feral in rbg and bugged out

[hardy cargo]

Being feral and not guardian

Shameful

[livid wasp]

just play with ele and you will beat anything

[haughty compass]

Eye roll

[primal bane]

yo

rdruid in rbgs

what do you guys think

[tulip falcon]

fat pass

double disc hpala is ur best healing comp

can get away with swapping a disc for an rsham

[primal bane]

even if its HOTA rdruid?

[tulip falcon]

i mean if you know hes actually good sure

and not just 1x hota with no other rating ever

[primal bane]

also why are so many players in RBGs ranked like

2200

or 2400

[tulip falcon]

because its super inflated

[primal bane]

ye butg why such exact numbers

[tulip falcon]

you mean on check-pvp?

[primal bane]

always 2000

2400

yeah

[tulip falcon]

because it only tracks exact rating from this expac

otherwise it just shows their highest achi rating

like mine showed 2400 max on check-pvp even though i was 2532 in mop

[weak hinge]

ok my mate just got hit by a 19.5k bite

wtf

[tulip falcon]

then when i went above 2400 this ssn it showed me exact rating

[hardy cargo]

I love being a rdruid in rbgs. But running guardian affinity is pretty much a necessity

[chrome panther]

@stray sigil stop doing this before the plebs learn the true power of feral

[turbid jolt]

If it means people will start taking Feral in RBG I'd take that trade

[primal bane]

lol wishful

[gleaming urchin]

Do you guys have any recommendations for good partners for boomy in twos?
I just started trying to push my rating never really PVP before.
I’ve had success with marksman hunters, warriors, and to a lesser extent monks. But I’m not really sure if it’s because of the comp or the players or what.

Only thing I’ve noticed is that if I take fairie swarm warriors have a really hard time killing me.

[chrome panther]

hpal or bust.

or rogue/mage if you want to run with another dps

[stray sigil]

@chrome panther i must show the way to my brothers

bt is inevitable

[gleaming urchin]

Interesting.
Is hpal just that broken or is there legit synergy?

I mean a bop while I convoke makes sense

[misty horizon]

They can just Conc Aura + AM

but HPal is just pretty bonkers broken atm

They're OP. Priests are OP for about 4 minutes. The other healers are :C except for occasional comps w/ for a RSham

[chrome panther]

disc/rsham work too but hpal is the only healer that can really brute-force heal through double dps.

[turbid jolt]

Are balance rbg talents for NF still 1322221?

[gleaming urchin]

Ok. This all makes sense actually.
I’m at like 1300 cr and I’m just waiting for games to get genuinely difficult.
I usually win off of common sense and layering CC (walling at right times, running away during their defensive. Convoking when they can’t stop it).

[dire ginkgo]

Does someone use ElvUI for PVP? If yes, can you show me how your Ui looks like?

[primal bane]

if you dont pvp

thats not really common sense

[crude minnow]

@turbid jolt depends. 1st and last row are biggest swaps. If defending foe and fon are very good. Foe is amazing if you aren't relying on dot damage and BOAT.

Incarn vs starlord is preference

[primal bane]

i just finished a flag RBG 2-2

and we won?

[crude minnow]

You capped last

[primal bane]

XDDD

what a fucking mechanic lmao

id be punching my screen into the afterlife

if i lost like that

[hardy cargo]

Wait you didn't know that was a thing?

[primal bane]

"yeah we calcuklated our playsand beat thesee guys fair and square"

[hardy cargo]

Its always been final cap because fair game!

[primal bane]

"but they did a yolo full send attack and capped last, deserved loss"

[hardy cargo]

The only way to tie is to run out of time with 0 points scored

[primal bane]

what a dumb thought process

i mean its better than first cap wins

but not by muchj

[foggy ravine]

You can also tie node maps and seething shore

[potent void]

it’s better because there’s less dead time when it’s impossible to win but you have to just run out the clock

more games could be swung by one cap

[hardy cargo]

I dislike warsong/twin peaks solely because you can have 3min on the clock and be ahead at 2/2 because you capped last and just turtle.

[foggy ravine]

It should just turn to sudden death lol

Amp those FC stacks and have at it

[potent void]

make it like pubg, the playing field shrinks until the game ends

[crude minnow]

High stacks might make it take even longer haha

[foggy ravine]

Lmao

[primal bane]

so far the biggest reason its so easy to rank up

besides never losing

is that when i theoretically lose

i never lose rating somehow

[crude minnow]

It's based on mmr difference and your mmr va your cr

[primal bane]

so my mmr is bad?

but i gain like 17+ per win

[crude minnow]

Because mmr is inflated for rbgs, cr is inflated. According to percentiles, 90 percentile in rbgs is like 1900 while 3s is like 1700. But it feels bigger than 200 inflation

[stone apex]

ah well, most RBG groups on 1700 CR asking for 2k arena exp that is

[crude minnow]

I never see that

Took me until like 2.3k mmr till people started thinking my lack of arena exp was a problem

[primal bane]

if i reach 2.1k on anyu bracket

can i just never do it again and get all the free gear

226 gear*

[stone apex]

every time I wanted to get into 1,9 CR group I was told you need 2k arena exp lol

[primal bane]

make your own its p easy from what ive seen

[stone apex]

true

[primal bane]

so far ive had no issues

even tho i thought nobody will join 1 person

[shell geode]

longwinded boomy RBG question. 1.8 to 2kmmr. i'm doing a ton of damage rotting stuff in team fights with dots and starfall. meaning i'm at the top of both factions and next closest guy is 25% to 35% below me. i'm being told i should be just spamming surges. is the rot not helpful?

[crude minnow]

Starfall is garbage in nearly all situations. Kills win fights not rot

[hardy cargo]

No not really. Unless your entire group is rot based starsurge has more value

[crude minnow]

If you win with 3 boonies spamming starfall, you would have won faster if they coordinated 9 surges into a kill target

[pale dagger]

what weapon enchant for boomie

still sinful revelation?

[chrome panther]

celestial.

[gleaming urchin]

When they changed wsg to have a time limit back in wrath it was first cap wins ties, but Blizz changed it.
They didn’t like that people would cap and then turtle to victory 😆

[split bluff]

terrain cheat* to victory

rbg is one big steaming pile of crap

[primal bane]

how good is guardian in RBG?

[iron briar]

Who would peoples ideal partner be for 2s push atm as feral?

[split bluff]

hpal?

but why would they pick you over an arms or ww

[iron briar]

so sad but true :p with the amount of healing I do was thinking double dps

[wise valley]

why isnt my travel form glpyh working?

[split bluff]

you have to go to barber to enable it

[wise valley]

8k ferocious bite non crit at level 55

.>

[split bluff]

you will get deleted in 2dps so fast your head will spin btw @iron briar

[iron briar]

Mmm that’s my worry

Playing with fire mage mate atm just at low rating, works out well but fire anything works at low rating. :p

[clear pulsar]

Thats a silly notion

Feral's very good

Yall gotta stop being whiny victims

Holy cock bro

HURR DURR THIS SPEC IS WAY BETTER THAN MY SPEC

[livid swan]

in general feral pvp (battlegrounds, 2s, 3s) is it better to rake/rip multiple targets or keep rake/rip on one guy and funnel combo points into bite spam?

Also whats the viability of Draught of Deep Focus as feral?

[vernal quest]

how much ilvl is versatility worth for resto?

[wise valley]

@clear pulsar yeah it seems aight

[split bluff]

in a vacuum maybe

then look at how much shit counters it and how much effort you have to put in for same or less return than zugzugs pressing 1,2

[wise valley]

@split bluff you talking feral?

[split bluff]

yes

[wise valley]

you new to the class?

cus its been like that forever

feral is huge brain scientist class lots of calculations and deductions must be made on the fly

[split bluff]

not rly, it was pretty braindead in cata for example

and you could call it "very good" then

when you do it now you're just trolling

[wise valley]

other classes are just OP

feral was zug zug brain dead 12 in legion

and it was the most busted class in arena

[haughty compass]

Wod incarn feral

So fun

[clear pulsar]

Feral is as zug zug as any other dps spec

You wilding

Pretending it's a lot more work lmao

[split bluff]

go back to arenajunkies

ohwait

[clear pulsar]

I ain't the one thinking feral's hard to play

[split bluff]

on this we can agree at least, you're not thinking at all

[wise valley]

did something crawl up ur butt

[weak hinge]

i need a resto druid coach

willing to pay big

[chrome panther]

idk arms wars dont crit for 20k

[lime light]

Feral was never as braindead as it is in sl

They crit for 17k condemn

[chrome panther]

lol

no

they dont

[lime light]

They do

Trust or not

But they do

And its cringe

Ofc not every single condemn

[chrome panther]

prolly put some vers gear on

might help

[lime light]

But i have seen 17k

[clear pulsar]

You ever just crit them DKs for 22k bites bro?

[lime light]

22k is like half of their HP rn

Nothing special

🙂

[clear pulsar]

You're special

[lime light]

Iam special boi

[cunning spruce]

how is feral braindead lol

[junior plover]

they deal big damage so theyre braindead 😠

nerf feral

[haughty compass]

Saying something is brain dead automatically makes me ignore anything you say

[forest kite]

someone have something to remove/show up specific nameplate ?

like Hide useless shit / show only grounding totem + player nameplate for exemple

[clear pulsar]

Yeah the point was more so that you're acting like a whiny moron

Saying a dps spec you lose to is braindead

And acting like yours is particularly harder

It's a very silly notion

[haughty compass]

^

[crude minnow]

It's okay to admit you are having problems due to skill. My input lags make me potato is ok

[haughty compass]

Input lag for me = I am a dad

Forever duelist

[crude minnow]

I'm only 26 but my ADD has fucked my mechanical skill apparently

[devout phoenix]

where do you find groups to play with? Specifically for RBGs, I've been pugging a lot lately as balance druid and I feel like I'm stuck in ELO hell. I've been floating between 1520 and 1585 for three days now: I win 3-4 in a row, half the group hits 1600 and decides to leave, and then the group disbands. Next group we get slapped for 3-4 games.

the push from 0 to 1500 was an absolute breeze but 1500 to 1600 feels so much more difficult

[crude minnow]

Find groups that wanna push past that specifically.

Do you feel like the fights at 1600 are hard for you or is it just the macro team play?

[devout phoenix]

It's the macro team play

like I win pretty much any team fight I'm a part of

but on AB for example, sometimes I get groups where people won't defend bases and it leaves me stuck on a flag, when I feel like I'm most useful in teamfights at contested objectives

[crude minnow]

To have the biggest impact, join a group where you can help target or shot call. Learn the BGs. Memers act like rbg is just skill and no macro play but I think that's ignorant. You have to work together quickly.

[primal bane]

solstice talent for pvp?

i mean RBGS?

[crude minnow]

Plan who peels from a team fight. Teach others how to guard bases solo. Shot call. Call out cc. Etc

[primal bane]

fast answer pls

[chrome panther]

yes, run solstice

[primal bane]

ty

[chrome panther]

and starlord.

[crude minnow]

If you have a lot of dots otherwise it's whatever you want

[primal bane]

ill ignore that one

[chrome panther]

alternatively, get drunk and stop caring

[chrome panther]

dont ignore me u slut, run starlord

[devout phoenix]

I find a big issue when I'm target calling is that in good groups people tend to target the called target, but in bad groups they don't

[chrome panther]

1 big thing

[crude minnow]

FOE in small skirmishes fucks while solstice doesn't as much

[chrome panther]

inspect everyone

if people have like, 500 3s games

and are 1300 rating

[devout phoenix]

and like, I'll get in a group where you have one of the healers just sitting at a base with the tank, not doing anything, while we're losing a teamfight somewhere else

[chrome panther]

DIP the fuck out

when we pug someone we require same arena rating as the cr we're playing

[crude minnow]

Find a few good players and start a group. 1-2 shot call 1-2 target call. Gg ez 1800+

[chrome panther]

none of this 1600 cr 3s 2400 rbg garbage

[potent void]

is there any good guide to read on general rbg strategy

[devout phoenix]

Ah man I remember there being a good one way back when I was pushing them in MoP

[crude minnow]

https://bit.ly/RBGGuide

[devout phoenix]

I definitely feel like I spend a lot of time in some groups trying to teach people how to play the game

[haughty compass]

Played with an 1800 rbg rogue one who was 1200 in 2s with 800+ games

[chrome panther]

also your a boomie

apply for groups 200 cr higher

like disc, your in high demand

[devout phoenix]

oh that's a fair play

I never thought of that

I am definitely feeling how powerful boomie is in RBGs at the moment

[crude minnow]

My 2s is 1350 cause I carry my fresh friends hehe

But also I suck so it isn't like that far off

[devout phoenix]

man I had to play 100 2s games just to learn boomie (picked it up a couple weeks ago)

switching from warrior to boomkin was super weird at first

I had no idea where to stand at any given point in time LOL

[placid mirage]

I feel a lot bolder as boomie in rbg though with healers

You can go in and get big roars on their healers and clone them

[tough basin]

Better to lone empowerment as a feral or use it on the heals/dps?

[stray sigil]

lone always

[twilit siren]

if 2 people are capping does a single moonfire cast with twin moons interrupt both of them?

[tough basin]

Yes

[junior plover]

Man

I suck at kyrian

[patent dove]

kyrian ability is so awfully designed it's best to never use it like it was intended

[junior plover]

Had a quick session

went 3-8

But it's funny how people just die in the opener now

randomly

[stray sigil]

are u a bt curio follower now ?

[clear pulsar]

Bro I love BT Kyrian

I'm feeling the CUrio goodness too

[stray sigil]

bt kyrian is the most massive of pumps

these plate can now cower in fear

[junior plover]

no just kyrian

If i was bt curio

i'd be 0-8

[stray sigil]

i am undefeated playing bt curio

wait a second the math doesnt add up

3-8

to 0-8

u are a baboon

[junior plover]

Yes i would

win 0 games

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

2s is so free

find a disc

tell him pop dark when u pop kyrian

watch ppl flop insta

[junior plover]

Ye i have a disc

im half kidding about me sucking as kyrian

im cold af im probably sick or smth

the inputs just werent there from me

[tacit patio]

Any advise on leggos for rdruid for rated bgs?

[foggy ravine]

Verdant is fine but the one that gives multiple rejuvs or regrowth is better

From raid I can’t remember name rn

[hushed scarab]

Hey guys, is boomie any good in arena and what compos do you enjoy playing in 2c and 3c ?

[foggy ravine]

Memory of mother tree that’s it

[vestal grotto]

niya or dreamweaver tree for pvp

[junior plover]

Boomie is good especially in 3s

I'm not a boomie player but from what ive faced

only Boomie SPriest seemed scary in 2s

[stone nest]

dhs are doing a lot of damage

[junior plover]

some people here agree with that

Yeah DHs arent as bad as people think

in 2s they kinda slap tbh

[stone nest]

they have a ridiculous amount of pressure

[forest kite]

boomy/SP , boomy/Hpal , Boomy/Rsham in 2S . For 3s mostly Hpal/Boomy+X

[junior plover]

The Hunt can crit for 25k+

and also they get to mana drain in 2s

[placid mirage]

Veng dh mastery stack hunt

Our tank crit a ret for 30k

[chrome panther]

boomie/ele/hpal

[acoustic nebula]

Until the ret hoj as he flies in and only takes dot damage from the hunt

[little hatch]

did they fix master shapeshifter? 😮 My buff isn't dropping anymore after a few seconds

[clear pulsar]

Honestly it's kinda insane burst like

[junior plover]

This is like the 5th time i see this question posed like this

[clear pulsar]

Stun into mana rift into glaive tempest into the hunt

[junior plover]

so I'm assuming they indeed did

[clear pulsar]

Yeah they fixed it around 2 weeks ago @little hatch

[little hatch]

yeah, i just found your message from yesterday... sorry, but thanks!

[edgy shale]

Yeah they fixed it around 2 weeks ago @little hatch
@clear pulsar r u going back nf for first strikr?

[clear pulsar]

I don't think so

I mean

I have no reason to go night fae rn

Kyrian is really nice

Just some extra shmoke on your bash goes

[untold spade]

Hey everyone! I am trying to reach 1800 Rating on my Druid for the 220 Itemlevel pieces and the Elite set. What would be the absolute fastest, most easy way for me to achieve this? Really appreciate your help in advance

[clear pulsar]

Playing boomie in rbgs

With legacy of sleeper leggo for going guardian in fc maps

[untold spade]

Thank you! This really helps and I shall look into this asap. Are there any ways to optimize my Rating gains ans decrease loss so I can get it done as soon as I possibly can? I just want to reach 1800,don't really care about anything else in that matter

[stray sigil]

yes good

i like what im reading

[acoustic nebula]

Just win every game

[junior plover]

Honestly the real answer is git gud

[acoustic nebula]

^

[edgy shale]

its rbgs

[junior plover]

RBGs are very easy to rank in though

like even if you never played pvp once in your life

you'll get there soon enough

[edgy shale]

apply to a group with high mmr

and youll gain 30 lose 0

[untold spade]

Is there any way I can check their MMR?

[junior plover]

They usually advertise it on lfg

at least leader's cr

as boomkin chances are people will take you even if youre lower rated

but might be hard to find the first group or 2

[edgy shale]

exactly

if ur a boomy fc.with sleeper u can get into good groups just based off ur opness

even just normal boomy

[gloomy token]

O benis more like

Fuckin boomies

[edgy shale]

yeah

[junior plover]

youre a benis

[untold spade]

Oooh right, yeah. I see. Thanks a lot! So the basic principle is to spam RBGs as a boomkin in groups that preferably are higher than me

[junior plover]

Yepp

[edgy shale]

thats the fast lane to 2400

[untold spade]

That sounds oddly simple 😄

[junior plover]

I mean these groups gotta actually win too

but 1800 you can get in literally a few games if youre lucky

[edgy shale]

rbgs usually want voice. so u can get dumbasses yelling a lot. worst part of rgbs

[junior plover]

Just join voice and mute it

[edgy shale]

ppl who scream i always check their 3s rating and its always like 1200

[forest moss]

don't look at mine, Ipod. I haven't done games in 2 weeks

[untold spade]

Yeah, I have tried it but seem to have been stuck. I spent 7 hours spamming BGs got rating, lost rating and all but at the end of those 7 hours I basically was still at the same Rating

[edgy shale]

i wont check unless u scream at me in an rbg

[untold spade]

Can't seem to get any further than the 1650 mark, after that I just lose until I am at like 1600 again, go up to 1650 and down to 1600 repeat repeat

[edgy shale]

basically u never ever wanna be highest cr on ur team

if ur in thr middle or lower youll gain more than u lose

[junior plover]

leech off teammates

[edgy shale]

boomies are great leeches

[untold spade]

I see I see

[forest moss]

yeah I go into rbgs with my 1530 rating and everyone else is 1.7k+ ez pz

[untold spade]

So I just need to (in that regard) keep looking until I find a group that's generally higher than me

Got it!

I really hope that helps me push the last 150 Rating so I can finally be done with it 😄

[edgy shale]

that will make things easiest ya and gl!

[untold spade]

Thanks a lot for the info all of you! Really appreciate it a lot, will be sure to put it to good use!

[candid moth]

just tell them you are 2.4

nobody checks

and the leader is 1500 too but wants only 2.4 people

[frosty crest]

I check 😤

[forest moss]

most likely

my GM/RL has like 2.3k exp I believe and shot calls. our issue in my group is not many people are calling stuff out like CC/focus target enough

they rely too much on him and if he's not there well...

[candid moth]

its why many more experience TCs focus the enemy TC

in a decent group people will pick up the task

[potent void]

how do yo uknow who enemy TC is

[stone nest]

The amount of people I’ve caught saying they are 2.1 and are like 1500 is amazing

[molten knot]

Has anyone used the Timeworn Dreambinder legendary? Where did you use it and was it better than Balance of all Things?

[distant epoch]

Heya, do you get conquest gear from the pvp slots of the great vault? I'm new to pvp

[verbal urchin]

Yeah

Based on rating

[foggy drift]

who tf came up with the idea that disc priest can purge without cooldown or mana cost

it's ridiculous

[stray sigil]

purging is taxing on mana isnt it

[split bluff]

supposedly to help them with their mana problems

they just forgot discs face other healers than hpal

[foggy drift]

purging costs 1.6% of base mana

rejuv costs 11% of base mana

[split bluff]

go dark titan, photo

for that purge protection

big brain plays

[foggy drift]

good idea, I'll try that

[thorny venture]

only alliance could lose WG defense

[clear pulsar]

Barely, purge costs way less mana than rejuv

Rejuv costs 2.2% of max mana @foggy drift

It's 11% of 10k

But healers have 50k

[forest kite]

Hey guys. Wich legenderay for Resto druid on pvp?

[stray sigil]

i mean if all he does is spam purging

that adds up

gonna be taxing

[junior plover]

You cant be serious

[chrome panther]

lifebloom is barely a deterrent to purge, just enjoy having your healing shut down by 1 spammable spell 🙂

[junior plover]

rejuv is 11% base mana?

[chrome panther]

^ yes.

[junior plover]

HAHAHA

[chrome panther]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=774/rejuvenation

[stone nest]

If they are purge spamming I just throw my hots on and try to do damage

[chrome panther]

the spec is a joke rn, don't torture yourself playing it

[junior plover]

That is literally

the funniest shit

if it was 0% base mana

druid would still be unplayable

but its 11%

[chrome panther]

you could give the class infinite mana and you'd still autolose to any combination of war/ret/dk/monk comps

[junior plover]

Druid should be the infinite mana spec

[stray sigil]

isnt the idea behind high mana costs for druid

that they have the easiest time drinking

[junior plover]

fair enough

but

you cant drink

in most matchups

[stone nest]

Yeah I thought mastery would help but it seems like the gap between rdruid and say pally is just getting larger

[chrome panther]

its easy if your a night elf.

[junior plover]

Rdruid is getting to MW tier

No what I mean is

if you go for a drink

[stone nest]

It really is

[junior plover]

your team is about to blow up

and die

so gj on your 2 ticks of drink

while enemy healer is 90% mana still

[chrome panther]

it'll either get giga-buffed in 9.1 and become top tier again or blizzard will just giveup on the spec

have to wait and see.

Or we'll get a pathetic 5% aura buff and then have to wait another 3 months before anything happens.

[stray sigil]

agreed

[junior plover]

Also I suppose the mana costs are there to make up for innervate

[stray sigil]

buff ferals

[junior plover]

because